I Cheated to Bowl 300 in League!

Packy pre-bowls for league, and throws the Brunswick Ethos and Hammer Hazmat. He pops off two honor scores, but do they count for anything?
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[@jimgill6222]

At the age of 46, I bowled my first 300 two weeks ago.

[@jdnance168]

Congrats!!! Here's to many more to come!

[@michealmaley3566]

Nice shooting on the 300 and 808. I'm 73 y/o. One hand lefty. I'm still able to average in the low 220's in my two leagues. My first 300 and 800 (803) was back in the stone age of 1977 using a Yellow Dot. My last 300 was 2022 and last 800 (815) was earlier this year with a Altered Reality. So far 27 300's and 9 800's (PB 834). I have Honor Scores with Plastic, rubber, urethane, reactive risen . My game plan is big sym solid 12 to 18 frames and then asym pearl. Keep up your fine bowling and you entertaining videos. Thanks...

[@nvanderb]

Definitely count it. I bowled my first 300 while prebowling before going to junior gold during 2022. My high series is a 714. Which I'm definitely getting closer and closer to beating it. These last two weeks for league I shot a 650 and a 656.

[@kirtmorose]

My highest game was a 299. I have no honor scores but I keep plugging away at it. I have been really terrible lately but never give up. Love the channels they make me smile

[@Dolphinzone13]

5-300, 2-800. Every one of them counts! You don't get anything past your first one from the USBC anyways, so who cares what they think! When they all merged and we lost the ABC, the awards went to sh*t!

[@Skyeatsmike]

Amen

[@damarapoledna3636]

And I'm still having a blast bowling 3-4 times /wk😀

[@runnerboy6886]

USBC isn’t worth shit

[@damarapoledna3636]

@@runnerboy6886 without them there would be no sanctioning body🤔

[@Dolphinzone13]

@damarapoledna3636 That's the point. We had a GREAT sanctioning body. The USBC took three great bodies and turned them into one sh*tty one!

[@quinnbostic]

1 300 in practice, sanctioned 297 and 296. 1 800 series, 236,280,296-812. Last month, I had front 10, both the first two games, but only shot 789.

[@itsnotme07]

Congrats on the 300 and 800 series! Would I count the 300? Well considering my high game is 288, yeah, I'd count it personally. But I totally agree with the USBC's ruling on pre/post bowling not being eligible for honor awards. Why? Because you gotta do it when the lights are on baby! You're a pro, you get it. Right? HAHA! It counts towards the game/team scores. Oh my high series for 3? Not an 800...haha. 766. Which doesn't suck when you aren't a professional, yes that was with the 288 game....and yes, I know, I blew it in the 10th. Maybe next time I'll get it? My brother has like 5 of them now....but he's been actively in a league since the 70's. I haven't been in a league in 15 years. Oh well...on to the next video!

[@user-fd2dc8us8n]

I would. I bowled a 300 back in the '70s with hard rubber (take that, whippersnappers! ) and a pair of Varapappa 300s (one of them 16 in a row). My ball speed was around 13 mph. I had another game in which I had the front 9, all Brooklyn. Dummy me, I tried to force it into the pocket: big 4! Don't mess with success. 😂

[@radsprack]

Definitely count it personally. I think there is a matter of transition/environment/stress/additional factors to consider for USBC counting it. I think they want it to be an even playing field for all bowlers.

[@andywaltrip8182]

25 300s, 16 800s. I count every one shot in a form of competition, whether it be in league, tournament or pot games. I have a friend who is over a hundred on both

[@JDrewes72]

Love the shoutout to my "little" cousin Chris!

[@andrewjines2829]

Love your videos! Props for the scallabrini jersey in the back

[@CliftonDon74]

I have 1 300 game and 0 800 series to date. I have rolled 289 about 15 times (I stopped counting), my most recent one was week (11/1/2023). 786 was my highest 3 game series. Shooting a 9 bagger just means you figured it out for that game, which is good. Keeping track of these stats is more for personal satisfaction since I'm pretty sure nobody else cares. I have a few rings and trophies/plaques. How you feel about yourself is most important. Thank you Packy for sharing and allowing us to share as well.

[@01C5SemperFi]

Wait a minute. Did I almost hear you say "The Venom Shock"....... 🤔🤨. Hold on, someone get me Brunswick's Staff hot line so I can report this!!!..... lol.

[@PebblesChan]

Packy, your ball release looks fantastic!!

[@jb2257]

Lmao is that a Brian scalabrine jersey framed wooooo I love it the white mamba

[@gabrielyanes7530]

i saw wrestling on saturday where JD Drake invited you. And you got a shout out by the ring announcers on commentary

[@hackprefect]

2 300s, 2 800s. Shot my highest series just this past January. Haven't shot a league 300 since 2016, but I have a couple in practice. I only tell people about the sanctioned ones, but I do count the practice ones for myself, personally.

[@caleb8078]

Im still getting there, ive been league bowling for about 1 year now as a two hander and its hard to read the lanes and reduce hook, but my highest game was a 208 so far i know i can do better its just gonna take time ❤️ keep up the great content packy

[@ThomasTomlinson-v1o]

Definitely count it. I bowled my first 300 at the end of the year in the league roll offs. Nice set Packy, I really enjoy watching your video's. You help so many people become bowler's. Keep it up.

[@michaelmerrillGPG10]

I would count that 100%. 300's and 800's are never guarantees and hard to obtain. I am fortunate to have 11 300's and 4 800's. This past summer I shot my 11th 300 in a house I only had a year's experience bowling at. Overall best series was 810. I actually have no 800's that included a 300 in it. The content you are providing are great. Getting to see life outside of just the PBA tour. League bowling is my favorite thing to be a part of and get to watch. Watching the pros themselves is a bonus. Thank you for all the great content. I think another bowling ball tournament should happen. A lot of new equipment has come out and maybe a small format.

[@Lovetheducks]

I always thought that when you retire from pba you would end up Wichita states head coach. You seem like you’d really enjoy coaching and players would love playing for you.

[@300x2869]

Cudos to Holly on the 777! Hope she went to the casino after!

[@elm6944]

I love ur channel! If u have someone to witness the score like the manager it should be counted! So im 17 and hv been very lucky and hv six sanction 300. Ive had two 800 which to me was harder than a perfect game! I like when you have celebrity pros on ur vids! Prather is always fun!

[@jdnance168]

Count it!!! I wouldn't count one in practice if I was just throwing shots and happen onto 12 in a row... but pre/post, sweeper, tourney, for score practice.... knotch the belt brother! 26 300's 8 800's 23 299's - because back row happens

[@ChristopherDean1981]

No 300. 286 is my career high. First year bowling 2 handed. Love the Videos Packy.

[@scottythompson940]

Cool video talk tech bowling bowling ball packy

[@Skyeatsmike]

I just started bowling again 2 years ago, after a 15 year break, i am now 30. I bowled my first 300 last year but sadly no 800s yet!

[@rsrdevon]

5-800s with no 300s in them. But I do have 7-300s as well. I think they should all count when pre or post bowling.

[@johnbcodes]

Holly with her own 🔥777

[@forexpro35]

Two 300's Both in 1992.. No 800's High Series 777 I would count your 300 if its on a league pattern... Well done...

[@SamFisher300]

12-300 3-800 834 High with first 21 Strikes finish with 31 of 36 strikes and it was all live streaming when I did this one of my most memorable moments in Bowling so far

[@stanmagdon6277]

The Mustchave rule. Or whatever his name was that shot all his honor scores pre bowling.

[@shutthefrontdoor4132]

I have never bowled a 300. Best is 286 (with my dad's old Columbia 3 Dot; on wooden lanes!!!). I have bowled several... SEVERAL 279 games. Hazmat looks like a beast, BTW...

[@kbnet3000]

Yes , i would count it. A lot of us have bowled tournaments that were not sanctioned and threw one. I currently have 17 - 300's and 8 - 800's best was sanctioned triplicate 279's for 837

[@300RickyG]

I'd count it in my book. I have 5- 300 games. 4 in sanctioned league, and the 5th in No-Tap tourney but it was all real strikes. So I always say I have 5- 300 games in my book! :) Sadly no 800's for me...792, and 798 are my 2 highs my 5- 300's were all over the place. 1) in 1988 2) in 1994 3) in 2008 4) 2010 5) 2012

[@m.wilson2624]

Count them all! I have 3 1 handed, and and (2) 299's, a 298, and 20 in a row 2 handed. I still in search of my first 2 handed 300.

[@bam5561]

I got one 300 so far and no 800's 🙁. 300 was during a highschool match so its not sanctioned sadly. I did however, get on hammer's Instagram and Facebook because of it! So that was cool. Only been bowling for a little over a year so hopefully many more to come 🙂

[@druschott777]

7 unsanctioned 300's. Highest unsanctioned series of 835. Games of 300, 267, 268. Highest sanctioned game is 290, highest sanctioned series is 783.

[@chuckbaker9196]

I have zero so I would count it so I could have one. Great job!

[@matthewtabor6210]

Packy can't wait to meet u at WSOB 15, Next year at thunderbowl

[@loob9166]

Just won my first scratch adult tournament using the hazmat the whole day. Ball is absolutely crazy and its all i wanna throw right now lol

[@tonyk438]

Lol, I'm happy to get 200 and 600.

[@nicholasmartin2645]

Personally only 3, 300's and 774 high series. I personally would count it! Almost like counting a 300 in no tap if all of them were legitimate. You might miss some transition or pressure in a league setting, but if your league allows pre-bowling or post bowling, absolutely it should count! I enjoy your "actual bowling," but can you do it on a unicycle? (I can 😉)

[@NothinButRock]

I'd count them all as personal 300s. To be fair, I don't have any yet (not counting no-tap games), but any that I bowl, I will be counting. No 800s but I'm still proud of my 700.

[@lbp1513]

I have 2 sanctioned 300 games and 1 sanctioned 800 series which was 804. Have another 300 in a practice league so that would technically be 3 in league. Lost count of how many practice 300’s I’ve had though.

[@nghthawkevenfall8313]

2x (279), 278, Highest 3 game series 766 (233, 278, 255 games). 300 counts on a personal level, even if others may not see if that way

[@joeyrulz86]

Prebowling honor scores still count in my book. shot my 11th 300 4 weeks ago and then barely missed another 800 the following week. 798. Have 3 800s total. My goal was to have 20 300s and 5 800s before i turned 40. I will be cutting it close. For a one night a week house bowler, Im happy w my spot. Highest set is 855 which to this day feels amazing to have achieved.

[@mcvizzlecs]

do you adjust the surface on your ethos?

[@matthewtabor6210]

15 300s 4 800s highest is 846..packy my parents own a airbnb in flint Michigan hopefully would be awesome if u guys stayed here during the WSOB at thunderbowl next year

[@DaJesta088]

6 300’s right handed, 2 left handed. 1 800 with each hand (811 R, 806 L)… Also and 247 triplicate left-handed (proud of that one lol)…

[@bbb3k]

3 - 300's and 1 - 800....I would count them all. I would love to get another 800. To me, 800 is more important, consistency is my goal. Haven't shot 800 in about 12 years though. Last 300 was in 2018 I think. Great bowling Packy.

[@coltondadpoketrainers9175]

3 800 series all sanctioned. 18 300 games, 13 sanctioned. countless 299 games

[@ksjlb2612]

I personally count all. I am lucky enough that USBC still gave me a ring for my last 300. All others were in the ABC era.

[@SarcasticStorageStacker]

I shot 5 sanctioned 300's back in the 80's and 90's and never considered counting non sanctioned games , but Im retired from bowling now at 68 so maybe my views are antiquated

[@Thehousebowlingextras]

These games count for league but not for honor scores which is why I had the question!

[@jimk9290]

You do not have to keep asking the Ethos to hook. It's going to hook. "Hold" or "push", however, is a valid command. I have not yet found the "Activate voice command" function on my bowling balls. Maybe I should remove the "Made in Mexico" label; it could be under there. And maybe I need to use Spanish commands. I had to give Spanish commands to a neighbor's dog last week, so that's a thing.

[@winsleypelayo4022]

no 300 or 800 yet. high game 279 and high series 765

[@Fivel_VR]

would definitely count it

[@gunzslinger981]

wouldve loved to seen more hazmat angles from the camera

[@johnedwardnewman3112]

1 300 and 0 800s. I honestly think they should count no matter what. My only 300 was in a non-sanctioned league but that didn’t make it any less special for me. It just proved that the last 4 years of work finally paid off!

[@gregbowersock7651]

1 800, 3.5 300s. The half 300 was from a youth adult Baker Doubles tournament. Hardest 300 was using 6 balls and rolling a dice each frame to see which ball I used.

[@mikew7499]

28 300's and 9 800's been bowling 33 years

[@mcvizzlecs]

new series idea: newest release ball vs the winner of its type from ball tourney competition. house and sport

[@hysterheister0947]

I have 2 300 games. I've was while pacing a friend. One was while prebowling. I count them both. Still looking for a ring though.

[@GhostofKaiser]

Pre-bowl/post-bowl 300 doesn't count for awards. Personally? I'd count it as a non-competition/practice 300, given the circumstances. Edit: Oh, that catch on the Venom Sho.... Rattler. XD

[@connorjahn_]

A lot of 300s, but please teach me how to shoot an 800😂

[@ThreeTwoVictor]

Honor scores don't count when you bowl unopposed either. I found that out the hard way. I still count it for my personal record.

[@wmiller525]

4- 300's...2-800's but neither one of my 800's have come with a 300

[@justinhampton8874]

1 300. 2 or 3 299(with 4/5 strikes go end the game before it.) Most recently 9/ back 11 290 (first 2 game 2...dangit.)

[@anthonysan1449]

Yes definitely count it

[@rondockery8056]

I would count it regardless. Too bad USBC doesn't. I have 2 300 both in practice and in different houses. One before league and one after league. The closest I've been to a 300 in league is a 279, but I feel the 300 and 800 series are coming.

[@janderson8401]

Having started bowling in a league whose original purpose was to encourage acceptance and friendship between members of churches from different denominations I strongly dislike pre and post bowling. Having bowlers missing during league has a negative effect on the social aspect of bowling. Should the scores count? I would say no if it were unopposed. Given the way people seem to think they can do whatever they want as long as they don’t get caught I would guess 5-10% of unopposed pre or post bowls might have been, shall we say, ‘tweaked’.

[@carlitos4505]

0 300, 0 800. I definitely would count this one.

[@keiths8800]

2 300’s. 299, 298, 297…I like to get close. But all on house shots. Should house shots count? I doubt I could average 170 on a sport shot. Then again, I only use 1 ball. I like to keep things simple.

[@joshuagitto4182]

I say count it personally but officially no. I only count what USBC approves but a 300 is a 300. What I would like to see on this channel, is you bowling on a sport/challenge pattern but using 4 different balls (Strong, weak, 2 mid balls) or something of the sort. Alternating balls, bowl a game with each ball so we can see your ball motion and why a certain ball will look good and/or bad.

[@anthonymartinez4540]

Definitely counting it. But then again, I've never shot 300 sooooo

[@chrisclarke6720]

All 300 games count!! I’ve bowled none of either scores 😂

[@Adesignl]

Venom Sho.... herm... 🤐

[@FearTheWeird300]

I’ve bowled on the wrong lane in the tenth frame. It felt like cheating so I went on the correct lane and got 3 flush strikes with no nerves. It’s on the record so I guess I think yours should’ve counted.

[@millsdjr]

Count it! I have 13, none pre or post bowled. I still say count it, you still had to perform to get it.

[@damarapoledna3636]

I count every three I roll, sanctioned, not sanctioned and prac😎

[@itsdaley]

Still chasing my first 300 and if the day ever comes that I get it believe me it will count

[@Real_GavinGamer]

yes I need it to count because I have 2 300's and 775

[@dcrepitmoose]

Count it as an honor score, nah. Add it to personal totals if you keep them, sure. I mean, you bowled it without modification.

[@richr115]

I count all my 300/800s even if a governing body doesn't recognize it....I still threw em.

[@sethwalden2005]

i have a 800 series but no 300 :(

[@trentknouse95]

Wait... Packy throws a venom shock????? New Motiv pro bowler revealed????

[@snailfedperformance7177]

Thank you. I'm glad someone else was thinking what I was thinking. 😂😂😂

[@jefftennant218]

I thought the rule was it counted to USBC but as far as getting awards for them you can’t

[@jeremyhuffstedtler9794]

Hey Packy, what shoes do you wear?

[@frightcemetery]

2-300 games. Both one week apart.

[@neala9567]

My 1st awarded game was a 296 yeah big 4 lol and I was prebowling ... I have 2 sanctioned 300 and 11 non sanctioned and I count them all in my personal games

[@craiggraham1412]

I would count it it is technically during league

[@TWTexasA1]

There’s to many goofy rules who cares..a 300 is a 300..great game 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@icemanbomb]

I HAVE 98 299S 0 300S 6 800S 1 700, WOULD LOVE AN EXPLANATION ALSO I ALWAYS LEAVE EITHER AN 8 OR 9 FOR THE 299

[@NewOrleansGuy837]

if it counts for league games, scores, points, and standings, then it should count for all things associated with that. makes no sense to do otherwise

[@johnsandyeggo4789]

Zero and zero, so hell yes I would of counted it.

[@reptile9243]

i wouldn't count it personally

[@jjlewis6147]

6 300s, 4 800 series, id count it, i shot 300 at the stadium in reno this year, non sanctioned tourney, i count it

[@Terrafire34]

4 300’s 3 that count and one in a No tap with all natural strikes and 1 800 vs Bryanna Côté in our Friday night league…. She still beat me lmao 813 to 826 and she wasn’t even high in the league some else bowled 854 lol

[@nickpasquini1161]

0 on both. 298 high game and 756 high series