I CNC'd a Drone

Setup:
-Turnigy 4240 530kv motors
-15x5.5 Carbon fibre props
-T-motor F55A 4in1 ESC
-Omnibus F4 V6 Flight Controller
-Frsky X8R Receiver
-Bn-880 GPS module
-2x 3s 5000mah (wired in series for 6s)
CAD files: www.thingivers...

[@TimStation]

Heres a summary of info that wasn't included in the video: - No you didn't read the name of this channel wrong, this is my second channel. - The flight controller runs iNav firmware for the GPS capabilities. - FDM 'carbon fibre' 3D printing is still far weaker than actual carbon fibre, but good luck. - The drone cost approximately £270 (approx $350), not including the carbon fibre sheet, multiple broken cnc bits, radio receiver and 3D printer filament and one set of batteries. - I won't sell kits as it takes a lot of time to manfacture, and there are many cheap kits available. - I don't sell racing drone kits anymore due to a lack of interest and lack of income. - Yes I will probably collaborate with Tom Stanton at somepoint if he wants to.

[@thomasschoonwater3390]

I'm glad you're going to collaborate with Tom, I think you and Tom will make a fantastic duo

[@Internetprolet1312]

Hey I was wondering where you get the carbon plates from and what thickness you used for your racing drones?

[@Ron-nq6ft]

Tim Station what software are you using on the flight controller ?

[@corneliusgruss]

at 1:08 you can see the arms are angled slightly up. Why did you design the drone this way?

[@TimStation]

@@Internetprolet1312 I bought it in bulk from a Chinese manufacturer. There are many out there on Alibaba. They were made from 1.5mm and 3mm thick sheets.

[@linecraftman3907]

You really look like Tom Stanton. You even have a similar name!

[@TheEviling]

maybe he also 3D printed a full size version of himself :)

[@jankarsch4935]

Deepfake oviously, he even deepfaked the shed :D

[@macswanton9622]

That's obviously where the similarity ends

[@0calvin]

I thought I was experiencing the Mandela Effect and had either mis-remembered his name or been transported to an alternate reality.

[@elijahr6261]

I think you will find that the CNC dust is actually magic powder.

[@felixbaum2180]

Tom said that Tim makes "lOw QuAlItY cOnTeNt". wtf, this is great...

[@csours]

Maybe "Lesser Effort Content" would be a better description.

[@calebsherman886]

Please Collab with Tom Stanton, he's really cool and does similar stuff to you.

[@WillProwse]

Such a clean design. Good job. Looks great.

[@TimStation]

Thanks Will!

[@mjetdevelopment]

Haha I will probably like this channel more than your primary channel if it continues with such videos.

[@par5endos562]

I didn't expect to be Sketchup shamed when I got here... :P Looking forward to more build-centric videos.

[@LeeviMarkkula]

What a fantastic project! Would love to see a more detailed tutorial video on the electronic and programming side of this build up. 5/5 will try this one day!

[@openlink9958]

You love to see it A channel using the metric system so that you have a clue of what he is talking about

[@federicosagun4615]

Well done. Your design is so simple and clean but yet it's beautiful to look at. No wires all clean. That's the frame I want.

[@jake.]

For the propeller mounts, you should probably use locking nuts to prevent them from ever coming off

[@harrywood6502]

Didn't we learn from the last decade that letting people chose names and things doesn't go well. You end up with things like Boaty McBoatface and that other thing that begins with B that I shan't mention. And now Tom Stanton is Timothy Stopping Place.

[@dividingbyzerofpv6748]

Hi Tom. Helluva CNC you got there. I recently got up and running with my own CNC router mill. Learning how to cut CF and jot break bits has been an experience. I also cut under water, I actually cycle my water through a fultraion setup so my CF waste os captured and easily disposed of. The secret to my CNC bathtub is the toilet bowl overflow system(also similar to aquariums that use sump type filters). My method requires me to fixture the panels and machine with tabs. Seems most of the folks out there use a tape/crazyglue and spoil board method but then they are generating dust. I have already built several micros of my own design on up to very large tube frame 10-12inch builds. Currently in the design process for a possible 22inch monstrosity that will be running on 12s4p 18650 packs and 5215 300kv motors. Already having a ton of success using 18650 on everthing from 3in micros on up to Xclass with 6s2p packs running together for 6s4p. 18min flying time on 400kv 13in with 12000mah cruising 40mph the entire time is my best so far. Soon will have my Xclass running 8s4p. I learned with one of my builds that tube clamps and tube arms can suck for aligning all the screws/clamps if you use a bottom and top plate to sandwhich all the clamps.

[@johannnorris6350]

I love your Helicopter in the background just like mine

[@christiansprojects-cgmanuf1426]

Great build, awesome! If you want to boost up the flight time (efficiency) oy your quad, use slower turning motors with bigger props. I had great success with Tarot 5008 Motors and 18 Inch props. They are a bit more expensiv but not much! This configuration will give you over 3Kg of thrust per motor and much higher efficiency. The bigger the prop, the better the efficiency at given thrust. Also, the Tarot motors have the t-mount hole pattern and are even 25g lighter than your turnigy ones.

[@gideoncarleton1720]

oh my gosh!! i used sketchup when i was like 12-14 to just have fun making stuff! really helped me get down the basics and the learning curve for fusion 360 was easy after that.

[@Oxicnarf1]

I really love your channel, you're like a Mk 2 Tom Stanton

[@rasmus9311]

When i first read the channel name i thought i had gotten his name wrong the whole time

[@Reth_Hard]

For a moment, I thought KZbin unsubscribed me from my most favorite channels, again... lol

[@matrick1356]

"-google sketchup-" *OH GO OH NO*

[@rubiconnn]

As someone who doesn't do 3d design, what's so bad about sketchup? Is it like the Windows Movie Maker or iMovie of 3D design?

[@nickheyer]

@@rubiconnn Yeah, it's a small step up from TinkerCAD and a step below Fusion360. Window's 3D Builder is on par with sketchup lol.

[@aerialdroneworksinc.3566]

This is amazing of all the types of new built you made it look easy

[@sam2b77]

Hi, Tom. Thanks for the parts on thingiverse! It is exactly what I needed to replace my current frame that has plastic arms and have too much flex for the flight controller to handle for quality flight.

[@lolandypanda]

for such a big drone KV is quite high, I would recommend change motors to something like tarot 4108/380KV or 4114/320KV. It will definitely increase flight time and improve overall efficiency. In my setup, I was using 6A/4S with an 800mm frame. With all the equipment the weight was about 3kg. It allows about 30 mins of narrow flight time. FC was a custom one but based on Linux+Ardupilot...

[@trey1531]

I have designed drones from aluminum, cutting them out by hand like you. I really like your design of your heavy lift drone! It seems nice and simple.

[@thatguyblue4811]

Okay I’ve got to find someone with a CNC machine. This is pretty much exactly the project that I’ve been wanting to do only with FPV and a drop mechanism added.

[@benjefferson8609]

Looks awesome! Also, thank you for taking your health into account and milling your carbon fiber in water.

[@matrick1356]

I think tom is missing the point of having a second cha- *cough cough* I mean tim station has such a wonderful and in-depth channel!

[@afbennett3038]

Tom, you’re a bloody legend

[@harry979]

Doctor: Cnc drone doesn't exist, he cant hurt you Cnc Drone

[@g_a_b_r_i_e_l_]

What's wrong with a cnc drone?

[@harry979]

@@g_a_b_r_i_e_l_ nothing I was making an attempt at comedy

[@g_a_b_r_i_e_l_]

@@harry979 Ok

[@joemontgomery6658]

I love the name

[@JusticeFPV]

Nice TSX900

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

Channel Name Red DIY Red Stanton Because Tom is amazingly red. Proud of Ireland

[@PilotX82]

Dude I’m not much into big x class style drones but I do like this heavy lift idea. Very cool. Can’t wait to see the first lift or launch from it. Sub’d!

[@Daniel-qr2cy]

Love the frame. Trying to finish my tarot 650, but loving your frame much more.

[@xccarbon2568]

good job tim

[@ahaveland]

Really nice and clean design. Would be interesting to compare flight times with longer propellers and perhaps lower kv motors.

[@TimStation]

as I mainly built it for weight lifting, after flying for 12mins with 3kg onboard, the esc/motors were warm to the touch. So I haven't considered longer props. But without payload everything comes down cold, so larger prop flight time would be interesting to test. Thanks!

[@ahaveland]

@@TimStation You're welcome Tom. I bought a CF H500 quad with pixhawk back in 2014 and lengthened the arms to make it an H700 as I wanted to increase range. Would have liked to try 18" props but couldn't find any over 14" then. Unfortunately drone laws in Hungary and lack of funds and time have made it difficult to experiment further, so I'm hoping you might take this on and plot the results... Cheers!

[@MrNams]

Impressive build

[@coskuarsiray]

seems like modern art to me!

[@tomhall2632]

No Way I'm at UH second year Aerospace, just built my own racing drone over christmas! Nice vid keep up the innovation.

[@nikhilgante313]

Looks amazing! Could you post links to the electronics in the description for those of us who want to build their own?

[@_BlackSpectrum]

Hey one question why use that much bulky battery when it only gives 5000mah there are like mobile phone power bank which are lighter and compact and have capacity way more 10000mah and more why not use that ?

[@TimStation]

The mobile power banks are most likely lower voltage, therefore less Wh, which is the real measurement for energy storage. Plus mobile power banks use cheap li-ion cell which aren't capable of outputting the required power for a drone.

[@_BlackSpectrum]

@@TimStation Do all drones use li po batteries ?

[@Nardypants]

@@_BlackSpectrum You can use Li-ion on lower peak output drones like fixed-wings which are more efficient.

[@auxchar]

Working on putting together a Lowrider 3 CNC right now, will have to put this on the list of things to try with it. 👍

[@mannythehunter]

Awesome!! Added to my list of projects! Now to send the wife off somewhere so I can get building! Thanks

[@sky173]

Great video. Love to see a 'how-to' guide on building this.

[@maxhouseman3129]

Jesus, someone on KZbin who cuts carbon fiber correctly.

[@snifflesfpv7321]

I think cutting it dry and rubbing your fingers in it and snorting the dust is just perfectly reasonable...

[@JustInTime0525]

Sent here by Tom Stanton! You guys should check out his channel, I think he's copying you tho....

[@WalterBurton]

I ❤ old SketchUp!

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

Red Nile DIY channel. You met Red Nile in California. He is not even Irish 💟

[@machinist7230]

Seems like waterjet would be the ideal method for cutting frames out of carbon fiber sheet.

[@Awkward_Fox]

Saw this and thought: why is the name like a troll? And why did someone steal one of his videos? Turns out you are legitimately Tom! This is a cool project!

[@newtoncraftmc]

no he is tim

[@VladislavKurashov]

I recommend You protect the ceramic gps antenna. It scratches very easily and becomes less sensitive.

[@rorymatheson8583]

Racing quads can make 10kg of thrust, but weight around 600-800

[@VoltageGuy2000]

Haha looks so similar to the heavy-lift one I built on my channel! Great work!

[@Alistratov1971]

Your skill is really cool! Hello from Russia!

[@IbrahimKhan-kb2px]

I don’t know why but I was really happy to be the 50th subscriber.

[@JustBarran]

dude this is amazing

[@AndrewDanne]

Love your work. Inspiring.

[@nielscremer599]

WHY THE APOSTROPHE GODDAMN IT

[@Louisianahelicam]

I've learned that "3d printed" and "prop adapters" typically don't mix. Not from personal experience...but from watching the mistakes of others.

[@brandonsprague7098]

You should make a video about adding optical flow sensing to it! GPS drift correction is okay, but optical flow is where it's at.

[@MrAJWorks]

Great👍👍👍

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

Channel might be renamed Red Bull DIY

[@nikhilgovula2646]

what is the thickness of the carbon tube?

[@AndreBandarra1]

ahaha, best channel name ever, I'm in at about sub 1000. xD

[@alienmoondudes8071]

Can you make a video about your journey going to university, projects you've done, and what you are doing now?

[@EuanTodd]

3:04 tom... sounds like a challenge 😆

[@nikhilgovula2646]

hey tom/tim, could please upload an image of the wiring. Thanks

[@thomasradke7477]

Hello Tom. I only recently discovered your excellent series of videos and am filling these boring Covid-19 days with your demonstrations. In this video you gave an analysis of the various weights of the components and potential payload. That this drone can carry. I have ben contemplating the idea of a helium balloon type of space frame that could be designed with just enough structure to support the motors/propellers and let the helium filled soft structure filled with sufficient gas to off set the various components and potential payload. Additionally, have you ever considered a helium balloon attached to the batteries which could be tethered (such as 3 thin hollow rods) below a drone in such a manner to stay stable relative to the drone and supply enough lift to offset the battery weight?

[@northernflyer5311]

Good stuff. You are running iNav?

[@johnwohlheter601]

Quantum theory (otherwise known as quantum physics or quantum mechanics) is one of the two main planks of modern physics, along with general relativity, and between them the two theories claim to explain virtually everything about the universe. General relativity gives us our picture of the very big (space-time and gravity), while quantum theory gives us our picture of the very small (atoms and their constituents). Technically, quantum theory is actually the theory of any objects isolated from their surroundings but, because it is very difficult to isolate large objects from their environments, it essentially becomes a theory of the microscopic world of atoms and sub-atomic particles. This is especially true for those parts of the theory which rely on the absolute indistinguishability of fundamental particles, an indistinguishability which is impossible to find in the everyday world of composite, large-scale objects. Quantum theory is used in a huge variety of applications in everyday life, including lasers, CDs, DVDs, solar cells, fiber-optics, digital cameras, photocopiers, bar-code readers, fluorescent lights, LED lights, computer screens, transistors, semi-conductors, super-conductors, spectroscopy, MRI scanners, etc, etc. By some estimates, over 25% of the GDP of developed countries is directly based on quantum physics. It even explains the nuclear fusion processes taking place inside stars. However, some of its findings and principles are distinctly counter-intuitive and fiendishly difficult to explain in simple language, without resorting to complex mathematics way beyond the comfort level of most people (myself included!). This situation is not helped by the fact that the “theory” is largely a patchwork of fragments accrued over the last century or so, that some elements of it are still not well understood by the scientists themselves, and that some of the bizarre behavior it predicts appears to fly in face of what we have come to think of as common sense. A small part of the derivation for Schrödinger's equation of quantum mechanics (Click for a larger version) A small part of the derivation for Schrödinger's equation of quantum mechanics (Source: Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Schr%C3%B6dinger_equation) Richard Feynman, winner of the 1965 Nobel Prize for Physics and arguably one of the greatest physicists of the post-war era, is unapologetically frank: “I think I can safely say that nobody understands quantum mechanics”. Niels Bohr, one the main pioneers of quantum theory, claimed that: “Anyone who is not shocked by quantum theory has not understood it”. In the 1920s and 1930s, Bohr, Schrödinger, Heisenberg and others discovered that the atomic world is in fact full of murkiness and chaos, and not the precision clockwork suggested by classical theory. Classical physics can be considered as a good approximation to quantum physics, typically in circumstances with large numbers of particles. Indeed, classical physics has served us well up until the 20th Century, and for most everyday purposes it still does. But modern physics, which includes quantum physics and general relativity, is more all-encompassing, more fundamental and altogether more accurate - physics taken to a different level. Momentum and position, for instance, are approximations of the world of larger-sized things that we call the classical world, but the underlying reality of the quantum world is quite different. As we will see, even a rough understanding of quantum theory requires some background discussion of atomic theory and some discussion of the uncertainty principle before any sense at all can be made of it. Only then will some of the more obscure and bizarre aspects of quantum theory (such as wave-particle duality, superposition, nonlocality, decoherence, etc) make a little more sense.

[@Woodyhlr]

I was literally typing a comment on the other video asking about this drone when you mentioned your second channel lol

[@caspermaster-com]

Omg, i want to have you on my team in an future apocalypse

[@SIMONC256]

this would be cool 8 years ago

[@ryanm.191]

If the name changes I’m starting a riot at UoH

[@chrisleech1565]

Those Aerodrive are rated to 5S Tom, if that's who you really are. A bit bold to punish with 6S. Not getting a little"warm" under load? Change of topic: Nice beefy gantry risers on your Router. Never seen one quite like it, and I have searched the web high and low. As I recall you had an interesting time with the install or the vendors:-) Anyway its the quad is stout looking battle ship.

[@TimStation]

Voltage rating on a motor means very little. It's mainly a guide to prevent people over loading a motor. Theoretical the motor can take any voltage, however the load needs to be adjusted accordingly to the kv rating and RPM of use. Yeah the guy who sold me the CNC was a bit of a nightmare haha, but fortunately they don't sell kits anymore

[@TheEragoon]

A tutorial (on how to build it) would be nice if you got the time :)

[@ParodieHecker-mobile]

Do you have a CNC machine?

[@TheEragoon]

@@ParodieHecker-mobile no

[@VoltageGuy2000]

@@TheEragoon Thats fine, once you have the basic knowledge, you can build and design your own drone, with your own materials. Or you can buy a frame, which delivered quite promising results for me (I have built my own drone). Good luck!

[@tiagocarvalhosa5849]

I actually did it too for my PAP project at school.

[@undersky596]

Gods you're good!

[@Gannon777]

Hold up. Wait a minute! This is your only video. And you have 5k subs?! Nice :)

[@MatthewEvansFPV]

His other channel has ~250k :) (Tom Stanton)

[@RomanoPRODUCTION]

Red wing channel?

[@vishal01mehra]

Give a try to ardupilot, pixhawk. You'll be impressed by it being so customisable.

[@deltadrone]

Nice build!! What wire did you use to extend the motor wires to the ESC?

[@dempa3]

Very interesting! Thanks for this video! Would be curious to see a more in depth "how to cnc cut carbon fiber frame" and "how to design a quadcopter frame". Are you running arducopter or iNav on the flight controller? What is the weight of the frame itself (with and without the legs)?

[@nikhilgovula2646]

He's running iNav

[@roscotte]

PIDs need tuning, we can hear/see the wobble.

[@AxelsDIY]

This is a really nice quadcopter! Is it running INAV firmware or something else to get the GPS return to home function? Also, have you considered using Li-ion batteries (18650 cells) instead? I know you made a video about it some time ago, this kind of drone is the perfect application for that. Would give even longer flight time.

[@air-headedaviator1805]

Huh you have your own race drone. Neat!

[@daylen577]

This actually looks awesome. What is roughly the total cost for all the materials used?

[@lezbriddon]

i did this, but i only had a jigsaw and 18mm plywood... and it was octo so looked like a flying starfish....

[@greggv8]

Looks like enough unblown space in the middle to lift a small pizza.

[@adventuresofmatt8877]

Very useful and informative

[@ClementsProjects]

Nice job ! Thanks for sharing :)

[@quinnfoster4671]

Soon my esk8 projects will be complete enough for my to get an FPV quad. I have a Oculus Rift VR setup I want to try to use as a FPV headset.

[@boydriver2978]

That's a cracking shed, thought it was the tardis until I realised ehat the set up might be. Tiled flor no less. Good for you, veryimpressed with your set up, what CNC machine is that please?

[@Fragdemented]

I am a new fan of your channel and I have a challenge that I think you could make work. Do you think it's possible to use the physics principles from the "Tesla Turbine" to make a UFO Shaped Drone? basically send all the outward flowing air over a circular wing.

[@Roalethiago]

I thought the name thing was a joke, lol. This user name is just awesome please dont change it hahaha.

[@ratjuiceman1652]

*_Tim Station_*

[@MadazzaMusik]

Brilliantly inspirational😉👍

[@Juli-ky7oh]

Did you drill through the Propeller? I don't quite get how the shaft doesn't fit at first, but then the hole seems to have widened.

[@speedy0_FPV]

im in drone racing right now...its so diffrent now :D

[@AdrianoCasemiro]

I see it has Inav on the flight controller. Writing this question before finish watching the video, do you mind posting your configuration, flight modes and some particular advice on such a big quad? Specially on the PID tuning methodology. Is it too much to ask about telemetry related Opentx Lua scripts? Thanks again, love the channel.