I counter David Pakman & Don Lemon - LOGIC is the EVIDENCE

[@tamitami9275]

Bots do not have the right to free speech. Spam not human, also no rights. Harassment can become illegal. Doxing is illegal, they charge you with stalking. The man was correct on one thing, He is not a legal expert.

[@dlmsarge8329]

Haha good points!

[@chandrasunny]

Came here to say the same thing... there is a lot of illegal stuff that they were claiming isn't illegal and I wonder if they genuinely don't know or if they are trying to change the way we think about those things to make them more allowable. I'm glad Elon called his interviewer out on the CP comment.

[@user-xl5kd6il6c]

Not correct, spam can be done by people. As for Bots, algorithms that ban bots, hit people's accounts all the time. Doxing isn't illegal, it's not "stalking" to know someone's address, specially when that information is already publicly available I'm a Freedom of Speech absolutist, but your argument here doesn't make sense. All the 3 above are legal and allowed. The reason they are hunted down on platforms is because those need to be filtered for the platforms to be usable

[@justaguy328]

Yeah that was a stupid point. We're talking about human beings saying things that people don't like. They try to muddy up the water with spam and bots and all of that. Literally nobody is claiming that bots and spam should be allowed lol. They know exactly what this is about but they purposefully play dumb because it's their side engaging in censorship.

[@circusbrains]

these points are so incorrect that OP should consider removing post

[@deborahflello2316]

I cannot believe they sacked you as a teacher . You appear to be the type of logical, inspiring person that should be guiding the youth today.

[@Goodhello369]

Hes now a professor on KZbin. He has far more outreach this way.

[@workingstiffdiogenes2195]

Yes, Pakman, harassment and doxing are illegal. Unpleasant speech is not hate speech.

[@richardlefaive1944]

As is.child pornography of any form.

[@workingstiffdiogenes2195]

Oh, right. Feel kind of stupid that I forgot that. But not as stupid as Pakman.@@richardlefaive1944

[@stephenthumb2912]

exactly. there are degrees to these things.

[@giovalladares1022]

Doxing is not illegal if it was public information.

[@fun_gussy]

"Doxing" is not illegal in the US. Public records are not illegal to release. That's like saying it's illegal to post FOIA documents. Whether you like it or not there's an industry of white pages type companies harvesting public records and putting them online. AFAIK The only people protected by law from posting of personal information are some state and federal judges.

[@spiktan]

As a black African living in North America , coming from a place (South Africa), where from 1992 , affirmative action became a thing, from my experience, it never ends well or as intended.Whilst the intent was seemingly honourable, it was a colossal disaster. The general consensus on inequality was accepted across the political spectrum but how to achieve that desired balance was the challenge. Short cuts and quick fixes will only end up hurting the intended beneficiaries, (as it did in SA ) even more in the long run.

[@Nylon_riot]

This is backed up by data. There was that horrible situation in Rawanda that we all know. Afterward, to remedy this, the government went colorblind. They said there are no more tribes. You are a Rwandan citizen, that is it. The fighting stopped. Not only that, their economy recovered, and they are now one of the more prosperous and safer countries. This happened in reverse on Sri Lanka. They were colorblind for 60 years, they enacted affirmative action, a civil war broke out, and their economy was decimated. You pit disparate groups against each other. You get a tyranny of the minority over the majority. It is just how human beings work. No one is immune to power grabs. People wonder why capitalists would implement socialism. You would think they would be against it because the ideology is anti-capitalist in nature. The reason is that if people are fighting for something they think they don't have, then they aren't asking for a raise. In short, divide and concur. Jeff Bezos figured out that this makes people less likely to unionize, and we know his anti-union stance. For example, if a woman thinks she is making less, she is going to spend her energy fighting others and the employer for equal pay. But if she knew she had parity, she would be fighting in the other direction to ask for a raise or benefits or unionizing with everyone else. Right now this is an employees economy. The Boomers are retiring, being such a large generation, retirement means they are taking a lot of spending power with the.. The next generation is Gen X, which is a very small generation because of Vietnam. When Gen X was born, there was the highest divorce rates, the oil embargoes, and the Great Inflation (everyone forgets that one), so women had to enter the workforce en masse. With Boomers retiring and a smaller generation incoming, this gives Gen X and Millenials all the negotiating power. This is why inflation is so high, and they can't bring it down. They can't materialize people. So this is their way of trying to take away that negotiating power by removing it with affirmative action because then people are too busy fighting for something they already have. There are more black Americans in the middle class than people think. The Anglos are middle class. There are 17 ethnic groups that make more than them. The highest earners in the country are Nigerian and Asians. So they are basically forcing the middle class to fight each other so they don't negotiate for higher salaries. It's sick.

[@beck204]

I wish African Americans would adopt the mindset of Africans.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@Nylon_riotYou've made some very good points until you reached your "diagnosis" for inflation which is a more technical issue. Inflation is predominantly present as a function of monetary manipulation (artificially very low - or even negative, in Europe for example - interest rates, printing money and issuing sovereign debt), the ESG guidelines (hindering CAPEX in the E&P sector and fossil fuels in general, for years), the pandemic policies (antidemocratic lockdowns, disrupting supply chains, mandating "vaccines" causing firing of personnel, etc) and wars (which could be avoided). All in all, it seems, that governments pulled all available levers to induce inflation and, in my opinion, that's not by mere chance. It is the only time in modern history that all governments share a huge sovereign debt problem. Guess what inflation does to sovereign debt: it destroys it (along with peoples' purchasing power - but that never stopped the statist criminals).

[@zmack862]

As a black eskimo living in Northern South America, I approve this message. The general consensus on consensus has been logically loitered. The logic is the evidence.

[@Veteran_Nerd]

Don Lemon is a great example of the lack of meritocracy in the US.

[@rifz42]

for a laugh I want to see Don Lemon interview Kathy Newman ... "so what you're saying is.." "So what YOU'RE saying is...." "SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS!!"

[@MoonshineH]

Elon Musk is the most exemplary person of someone who did not work for and does not deserve their status and wealth.

[@cuerex8580]

@@MoonshineH and what are you?

[@twelvecatsinatrenchcoat]

@@rifz42 It's like when you take two of those little toys kids play with that repeat what they heard and it just keeps spiraling till they're both "SCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEE"

[@MoonshineH]

@@cuerex8580 Based

[@alialmuhanna4938]

I’m reminded of a joke; a group of engineering professors board a plane and are then told that their students designed it. Everyone flees the plane except for one professor; when asked why has he not fled, he said “Because I know it won’t even fly.”

[@ManwithNoName-t1o]

ask Don Lemon how we can get more Asians, Latinos, and Caucasians on NBA teams without lowering the standards

[@autotransportbroker]

The Leftist would say we just need to do more outreach to the Asian community and that would bring up the numbers of Asians in the NBA.

[@shelonnikgrumantov5061]

@@autotransportbrokernice approach, but why don’t they apply it instead of the AA and PD with regard to the back community?😮

[@autotransportbroker]

What is AA, PD, and "back community"?@@shelonnikgrumantov5061

[@stevem815]

​@@autotransportbrokerwe need to raise awareness of the NBA among Asians.

[@averagevideogamer0420]

ask Don Lemon why he seems to be advocating for child porn

[@ToriHiragana]

My work put me in the path a prominent professor of the University of Utah medical school, a respected medical school. She wrote the big final test that decided if students passed or failed the program. A few years ago they had a student who failed by a good margen 3 consecutive times but each time the faculty pushed for this girl to get another chance.... because she was a Native American female. There very few of that demographic in medical field according to this professor. The professor was asked to personally tutor this student and still the student failed the test. The student accused the professor of being racist by not tutoring her well enough and the professor got a bad write up and was thankful it didn't cost her her job. After the 3rd failure the faculty discussed if they should give her a 4th go. According to this professor the normal students never got anything like another try or special tutoring, you fail and you're out of luck. This was back in 2016, I can imagine what DEI is like now

[@TheYahmez]

I can't imagine what market forces compound to leave mammoth fossils so sought after.. 🤔 & why does everyone have this strange relationship with Coca-Cola? It's like, If nobody wants it around, then how is it so popular? Perhaps we should discuss such mysteries as great lengths?

[@jonwalter6317]

There are videos on YT of a former/now banned American College of Surgeons (I think that is the right name) member who got booted from the ACS for questioning the DEI movement and the lowering of standards. You can go find him rather than me provide details, but he said he would not allow himself or anyone he cared about be operated on by anyone under 40yo unless he knew the surgeons and/or their qualifications, or did serious research into the surgeon's credentials. He said the focus of the ACS has moved primarily to promote DEI concepts in healthcare and cares very little about its historical mission of educating and improving the abilities of its member doctors.

[@3namechangezalowdevry90day7]

The student should have hired someone else to tutor her if the one professor was hard to understand or didn't like her. What's a little more $$$ for a tutor when you've already sunk tons into med school?

[@Danielle-zq7kb]

One test to pass or fail the entire medical school program? That doesn’t sound correct. Med students do take board exams, but they aren’t one professor writing them, these are licensing exams that foreign doctors need to take , as well as students in the US completing their studies. These exams are put together by committee and people can get tutoring.

[@comment3711]

It’s like having a bored medical student standing behind your world renowned surgeon staring out the window instead of paying attention to your case. All I know is that these medical institutions are going to be paying out a lot of lawsuits soon. It’s their fault for passing and hiring incompetents.

[@bobjohnson7294]

DEI- Didn’t Earn It.

[@rifz42]

or Division, Exclusion & Intolerance

[@simongross3122]

Haha that's funny. My grandfather who served during the war always used to say that OBE meant Other Blokes' Efforts.

[@JasonBlackwood-o6o]

😂😂😂

[@anthonymccann3722]

Do students who get into college on a legacy quota "earn it"?

[@seankyle92]

Or Dimwitted, Emotional & Ignorant.

[@rifz42]

for a laugh I want to see Don Lemon interview Kathy Newman ... "so what you're saying is.." "So what YOU'RE saying is...." "SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS!!"

[@rolytnz]

I would pay to watch that.

[@autumnburkhart]

“Logic is self evident. The logic is the evidence.” So important.

[@usctrojan94]

This generation has been deprived of critical thinking concepts and logic.

[@0num4]

Indeed. E.g. As of 2013, the US Army's Field Manual for Leadership (FM 6-22) has removed "critical thinking" as a defined term for leaders to know and understand. We've been trending away from critical thinking skills for more than a decade, and it shows.

[@lauriivey7801]

@@0num4 Frightening

[@jeffsmith9384]

It seems this is on purpose.... but now that we have AI, critical thinking is going to be more important than ever else we'll all just blindly follow the machine

[@opinion3742]

That is not true. There is a surge in people who think when they watch videos like this that they are using critical thinking skills to asses it. They are not.

[@jackeagleeye3453]

@@opinion3742 Yup, society today on average is far more intelligent than people from 100 years ago. Warren Smith seems to mean well but IMO did a weak rebuttal here, Pakman is merely pointing out you can't claim to be free speech if you actually utilize censorship, which is true, even if the person is using legal reasoning here. It's simply dishonest. You can make an argument that moderation based off of our law's makes sense and that is a separate argument, but Elon marketing himself as free speech isn't honest. It also leaves out Elon's long history of censorship, including him firing Lemon just based off of that one interview. Which is ironic because now Warren is claiming to be fired for something similar.

[@AlissaMarie526]

I can tell you one thing, there is no way Don Lemon would comprehend this.

[@markfrederickromualdo9191]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@reyray7184]

It's willful ignorance.

[@summerman2]

Hahahahaaa😂

[@klburke]

@@reyray7184 I agree. I think he is being intentionally obtuse, to what end I can't figure out.

[@robmcguckin7605]

@@klburke Similar to how Chris Cuomo presents himself.

[@TedKidd]

DEI stands for "Didn't Earn It"

[@megandurnford6043]

Lowering standards lowers standards! Who would have thought!!😂😂😂

[@jackeagleeye3453]

You didn't really think that statement through, did you?

[@QueSeraSeraaaa]

The fact that the presence of Elon chased out a lot of unhinged users out of X, is an achievement by itself.

[@Xygoth]

Anything other than selecting the best based on ability is automatically lowering the standard.

[@8601r2]

And will inevitably be reflected in the results at some point in time.

[@TheOpacue]

Daaaaamn I hope more people find their way here. You're so important man ❤

[@yt.damian]

Don Lemon has displayed an astounding lack of awareness and intelligence in this interview.

[@CharveL88]

He's a 3x5 card reader and not much of an interviewer in the world of long-form discussion. The long-form really reveals how little thought, if any ( I mean, were these talking point questions actually written by him?) Lemon has going for him.

[@sengasengana]

I think he showed an astounding level of malignity. He knows what he's doing, he knows it's wrong, and he has a reason to do it anyways.

[@78LedHead]

It's been that way for his entire career, which is why his ratings have always been so low. It's a miracle he lasted as long as he did with nonstop emotional/childish arguments like you saw in that interview.

[@RandoMuser-h1o]

in THIS interview? this is what he's always like, but before he was protected by l/w msm

[@daviddiggens8841]

The fact he went to "you remove CP" shows how detached he is from reality as it is and how his programming allows him to perceive it. Who goes to the extreme like that who is thinking clearly. That's worse than arguing "it doesn't make sense that certain guns are legal because genocide exists" I actually can't think of a good comparison it was so bad Maybe why is paracetamol allowed to be imported when heroin is not, they're both analgesic drugs. Idk

[@jfk767]

Damn glad I found your content. The world needs more logic and reason.

[@Janelleybean23]

I agree!

[@MizJaniceResinArt]

It's refreshing. I like the way this young man thinks and reasons.

[@jameslovering9158]

Yep I subbed after listening.

[@TheSwauzz]

When you make it easier to achieve something, you are catering to a lower common denominator which automatically produces more people not trying as hard to achieve that something. People ask themselves, "Why should I work hard?". How do people not understand this?

[@billybrant6818]

Don Lemon looks like even he’s tired of hearing his own BS… 😂

[@rifz42]

“Yeah, sure, I mean if you spend all day shuffling words around you can make anything sound bad, Morty.” 😃

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

I worked on a TV show, and the Executives had promised an industry partner that they would hire at least 50% women on one of their shows. Of course, they never told any of the production team this, and they only discovered this requirement when they were finalizing the credits. Of course, they had not reached their goal/pledge upon counting all the names. So what they did was erase men from the credits who worked on the show, including myself. Wild shit! That's DEI at work. It's all fake.

[@C_R_O_M________]

Wow! And how did you react to such discrimination and injustice?

[@hope-cat4894]

I feel like you can file for discrimination practices with that since it was gender based.

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

@C_R_O_M________ I rolled my eyes , and moved on, but filed that away, knowing what BS this all was.

[@C_R_O_M________]

@@CanadianLoveKnotI have done the same thing, many times in my life, until I realized that at some point I need to defend myself (in every instance of life). Then everything changed and people begun to respect me. If they don't there are immediate consequences. In order to gain respect you need to gain respect from your self. Self-respect commands respect from others. Respect doesn't come automatically with a birth certificate.

[@dontcallthemliberals3316]

Just like all those police departments listing convicts as white to try and meet their quota.

[@dionbram]

"Logical consequences are the scarecrows of fools and the beacons of wise men." ~Thomas Huxley

[@qtip919]

Here's how DEI works in my company (large, un-named tech company) ONLY in the UNITED STATES, for every qualified WHITE MALE applicant

[@paulmartin2348]

"Diverse" literally translates as "racist against Caucasion".

[@TheYahmez]

Biodiversity is important for healthy ecosystems. Suffering from success is a palpable facet of postmodern -reality- simulacra, as well as a natural flaw with runaway feedback loops. Unfortunately for -some- everyone; Laws of the jungle include poaching & conservation efforts. The problem is nobody should want to "win" but people & society grow tired of the game. There are no bugs, only features. However one beholds or impresses upon the world:- newton's, third law will eventually kick everyones ass regardless.

[@zarbins]

I worked at a smaller late stage startup in Seattle that had this exact hiring policy. For each White Male applicant that a hiring manger wanted to interview they needed three viable 'diverse' candidates preferably BIPOC, or Female (particularly for engineering roles). A white male applicant could not be extended a job offer, no matter how good he was, until all three 'diverse' candidates were interviewed and the hiring team reviewed diverse candidates viability at the company and prioritized, in any way possible, hiring diverse candidates instead of the white male applicant. Part of the idea was that if there way any performance or skill gap between the white male applicant vs. diverse hire applicant that was due to systemic racism, in the case of BIPOC candidates, or patriarchal oppression, in the case of female candidates, and they were willing to hire a less skilled applicant, if diverse, any opportunity they could. Then the company had a policy to provide additional resources to diverse hires as a means to combat systemic racism and patriarchal oppression. Three things that resulted from this: 1) We missed out on some great potential hires because of the bureaucracy, the discrimination, and timeline of this hiring mandate 2) The additional resources allocated to this process directly impacted our ability to focus on our product and satisfy customers. We went from being innovative thought leaders in the space to barely talked about and laughed at by new experts in the field. 3) The CEO and e-team got to talk and sound great about their focus on diversity and social justice. All the while the product suffered and we started bleeding customers. Many of the competent people remaining at the company jumped ship and the company bled cash until it was sold to a private equity firm. The executives still got rich off the sale but all the diverse hires were either laid off or stuck at a shitty job. I still remember being in a meeting with the VP of HR and her saying "we don't want to hire more white people" It literally sent a shiver up my spine and I found it surreal that company burnt itself down over the next few years. Compassion and good intentions are not what they appear folks, I promise you. The tokenization of diversity and hiring for ideological reasons, or to improve superficial optics, are far more racist and sexist than meritocracy. I apologize for the length of this, but it affected me in a profound way.

[@richardk5246]

Say something or leave unless you're happy with it.

[@sgassocsg]

You have grounds for largest class action suit in American history. DEI will pay/play out like Asbestos.

[@andrewwatts2443]

They have already done it. They lowered the fitness standards for fireman and police to attract more female candidates. In the UK they lowered the teaching standards to plug the gaps and now they want to do the same for nurses, doctors and GPs. How is that NOT going to cost lives.

[@JayM928]

Yes, this is literally happening all over in law enforcement and military. The standards have literally been lowered. These people are fools and we’ll all suffer for their stupidity.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

It has already affect human lives, adversely since the instituted JDR-JPM Allopathy/Pharmaceutical Medical System, worse within every country via Authoritarian, Gov't, Socialist/ISM, Communist/ISM, Authoritarian/ist/ISM, control, UN, etc.

[@lisamcfatter9234]

Thank you sir. You're an amazing teacher.

[@jajaja7]

😂

[@radiantmind8729]

You were being very generous when you referred to Pakman’s statement as reasonable. It was ridiculous on the surface and below the surface.

[@ameyer7608]

There is hope for our future when someone is truly committed to honest dialogue. Thank you for teaching us how. From Australia

[@annabolin2158]

Best explanation I have come across yet.

[@zeddez1005]

It's not going to happen, it's already happening in the UK and Canada.

[@Roger-il8iw]

Lemon just kept adding to elons answers, and then attacking Elon for what He (don) said. It was so annoying.

[@theformulated1]

Packman always cops out with "I'm not in expert in this (XX)field".

[@Jay828__]

Thank you for your efforts in dismantling these disastrous arguments. How is this logic equation not obvious to everyone? I'm not that bright and it's abundantly clear.

[@Carb0hydrates]

Brother 7:42, is awesome. The revelation regarding the different between moderating free speech vs. moderating behavior was so eye opening for me. Of course there is clearly a difference between protecting the free speech of a person who perhaps angrily wrote "you're ugly" in a one off Tweet/X, is vastly different than someone who is repeatedly telling the same person "you're ugly" over and over, day on end. Even if you don't agree that either one should be removed from the platform, it still doesn't mean that a single instance of "hate speech" should be put in the same category as harassment in terms of Twitter's moderation policies.

[@sack9975]

David Pakman is so cringe holy crap

[@CharveL88]

He's a one-level-deep thinker. Any deeper and he starts drowning.

[@RandoMuser-h1o]

weasel, that's the word I use for him.

[@bhutehole]

I like to call him supreme propagandist David Pakman ironically. dude is worst at propaganda than china. pretty sure at least half his viewers are bots. which would explain why I have not been banned yet. my negative comments bring legitimacy to his comment section. so i stopped eventually.

[@katillac11]

David Pakman is disingenuous

[@CanadianLoveKnot]

Peak smugness

[@MrS-pe6sd]

The farcical term “hate speech“ has become the catchall slippery slop that we all knew it was gonna be.

[@DannerBanks]

I believe that diversity makes the world a better place. Having said that, no one has proven to me how Chinese, Korean, and Japanese companies are some of the most successful in the world but are also incredibly homogeneous.

[@EarlHayward]

I agree that diversity makes the world a better place. As for a company’s success, that involves too many variables to list, but chief amount them is the work ethic of those in the company. I have lived and worked in both Asia and the US for multinational corporations since late 90s. It has only been recently (2018) that I found that working with recent college graduates was frustrating; they cannot focus, try to do all communication over instant messages, and have no sense of humor!

[@seedy80]

Maybe there's also strength in unity.

[@PrincessFionaYT]

I’m amazed at how stupid Don Lemon comes across here.

[@ezacher4634]

Not me.

[@khatdubell]

Clearly you've never seen a clip of him then.

[@GabrielJames-ti3jf]

Ot just here, this is his identifying characteristic

[@richardk5246]

I'm not.

[@PrincessFionaYT]

@khatdubell As a matter of fact I have not. Now I know why.

[@shaunclohessy5105]

"The logic is the evidence ".. thats a great line

[@richardlefaive1944]

He made the great point that, in certain mission critical areas such as medicine, you definitely don't want to wait until you have irrefutable evidence that your DEI policy has gone terribly wrong and lowered standards markedly. Medicine and Engineering would be chief examples for fields where society simply cannot allow standards to.drop. A place where, if logic can proactively prevent an error, you have to listen to it.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@richardlefaive1944 Richard, actually though Engineering and Medical, Health are both areas which have important to vital, critical results, affects they are not within the same realms, process, methods, thinking, logic, reason, reasoning. Engineering uses precision, exactness, accuracy, principles, actual science. physics, chemistry with causation, mechanism, proof, within Science Philosophy. common medical, which is Allopathy/Pharmaceutical is an extension of the study of Biology which lacks causation, mechanism, proof, precision, exactness, accuracy, principles, yet very detrimental, harmful affects to fatal, death; often via their means, paths, actions, synthetic pharmaceutical medications which always harm, but allowed, if not considered, presented by their prearranged "Studies" as below an allowable, acceptable limit, in the short term, period, view. so, Your example is not properly presented, but idea with "standards" in some fields, areas are certainly more important, critical, vital with more extreme affects, harm Let's use some examples within engineering, design which are more important, essential, critical, vital: A. general use computer, communications device compared with specific use in environment, need in which these are critical, vital 1, failures, mistakes, errors in general use are not critical, vital, catastrophic, except when necessary for communication, function, in emergency, vital, critical situation 2. similarly with accuracy, precision, exactness 3. computer control with simple devices, equipment without serious harmful affects, results compared with vital, critical, necessary operation, function accuracy, exactness, precision within a motor vehicle, aircraft, sea craft, spacecraft, medical device, even simple appliance, common devices with extremely harmful, dangerous, results, affects due to lack of precision, accuracy, exactness, failure, errors, mistakes, etc. B. As mentioned physical structure designs, as bridges, roads, buildings, energy, manufacturing, industrial, nearly all of the aspects necessary, important, essential vital, critical with functionality, stability, durability, accuracy, exactness, precision, though some aspects are less important and lacking may be additional desired, useful, helpful, beneficial functions, use, functionality, but not critical, vital or have any harmful results, affect with failure, errors, lack with accuracy, exactness, precision. Hopefully, Perhaps You can continue these comparisons within Your thinking, development, as You comprehend this, thus benefit with explanation, ideas, concepts, principles, etc. All The Best, Sincerely

[@secretsantaification]

This is my new favorite channel to listen to while working.

[@dumbguydepot304]

Dude! This is a great format for you. Please try some more of these arguments.

[@zaydeshaddox7015]

Warren, I predict you are going to be interviewed by people like Chris Williamson and Jordan Peterson soon.

[@easymentality]

I was never taught logic in school, yet even at a very young age I seemed to inherently understand the operations of logic. As young as I was, though, I presumed that logic was simply an inherent trait of humanity. Over the course of time, logic went on to teach me otherwise.

[@tlz124]

It's impossible to bring emotion into it though. Mr. Facts over feelings himself Ben Shapiro has become an emotional mess when talking about Israel and Palestine

[@alibabaschultz352]

You echo my own story perfectly. Im 34, and only in the last few years realized that most people DONT operate on logic. It was quite an epiphany when I realized this. The vast majority of people are tribal and social and just go along with whatever the popular explanation is.

[@nadogrl]

@@alibabaschultz352- I sure hope that it’s not the “vast majority”…The 50% who are on the Left is bad enough.

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

​@@tlz124I agree it is impossible for the vast majority. However, I have Aspergers so I already operate with a significantly reduced emotional toolset. I never thought my lack of emotion would be a benefit, but it has become so.

[@stevec9972]

It is scary to realize how many folks are sheeple, worse still, seemingly smart people suspend logic and reality, disregard facts to go along with obvious flawed ideology.

[@bethluther3950]

Really appreciate this!

[@Tareyak]

Don Lemon proved you are what you eat... boy is he sour

[@markfrederickromualdo9191]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 and bitter

[@SecretScholars]

😂

[@mrmark44]

Nice. This is giving me the motivation to pursue Critical Thinking classes at our schools...

[@jacobi2393]

Hate speech is a far more arbitrary statement than "nice words vs doxing"

[@Gee-xb7rt]

Hate speech used to mean something, it was basically like assult with teeth, you can't run around threatening people. this hate speech is words I don't like is ridiculous. at some point adults should be responsible for their vocabulary, something that really gets under my skin is people feel great hurt just because their speech is policed for derogatory words for different races, ethnicities, genders, etc. Its really not that hard getting through the day not insulting people, but that isn't what hate speech is, making that hate speech just dilutes actual hate speech. If I said I'm going to rough you up because you are x y or z, then yeah that is hate speech. Israelis calling Palestinians weeds that need to be mowed is hate speech, there is the obvious intent, but Israel doesn't have laws to protect Palestinians .

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@Gee-xb7rt Clearly this comment contains confused mindset along with actual biased, distortions, especially at the end regarding "Israelis vs Palestinians" which are complete falsehood, contrived, devised, intentional, purposeful distortion, LIES, which are actually Hatred and certainly the reverse in reality. Many Arab Muslims and other Muslims are specifically taught, inDOCtrinated with specific, directed Hatred toward others, most specifically Jews, Yidden, BeNAYY YisRoAIL, Israel-YisRoAIL/Israeli-YisRoAILi; just as in Germany, Russia, Europe among many "Chrixtians", others worldwide.

[@minkorrh]

Don Lemon isn't that bright. The news clip of him positing a 'back hole' swallowed a plane never ceases to amaze me.

[@katschrodinger954]

I totally forgot about that! You have a great memory!

[@Swassticles]

Don't forget the claims that he assaulted another dude and grabbed his junk, he's a total sex pest behind that facade of being an intellectual.

[@johncage3969]

lmao yeah he said something like "it sounds crazy.... but IS IT?" XD

[@ChosenSquirrel]

Yeah that was pretty funny.

[@bucklberryreturns]

A 'back hole', or a blackhole? I'd be very impressed if someone parked a jet in their 'prison pocket'.

[@rockfordfiles5451]

Brilliant-You forget how refreshing and uplifting logical thinking is until you hear ...feel... It, again.

[@marcsmith-wl9pw]

I would listen to a commentary on anything from Mr. Smith

[@ferociousgustafson4040]

Just recognize how many people watched Don lemon all those years on CNN. These poor people thought he was a newsman.

[@andayaman]

His viewers are dummies who don’t deserve better.

[@ThomasHawkwood]

Look at Congress. There is really no standards to run for office. How has that turned out?

[@paddyofer]

Re Pakmann: bots, spam, and doxsing don't require judgement. You establish those are occurring, and take action. "Hate speech" can arguably always be n the eye of the beholder, so is better to let it be seen so that it's a known thing -- after all, light is the best disinfectant.

[@zero-jm7ok]

Also bots & spam can negatively affect the company. It's one of the reasons why Elon initially disputed buying Twitter because it was apparent that the original owners were inflating their user base with bots.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@zero-jm7ok Not much has actually changed with Tw/X, just some selected relaxation with their restrictions, bans, with what seems more reasonable. They are still direct partners with US Gov't Agencies & "Globalists/Elite" -> now with Elon Musk major ownership, more directly within the "Elite" control. They still have their company 'bots", other S/W, controls, censure, even complete, immediate, permanent ban without warnings, especially for posting actual "Truth" about major organizations, companies, sponsors, etc. Similarly this platform,biG-AlphBtI,fb-met,MS,Appl,Sign,Anny,et al + numerous others within their control as Intel,AMD,Qulcm,Brdcm,Cisco,Smsng,GtHb,Tsla,SpcX,Palntir,PyPl/eby,Amz,etc.;all media,politicians,political parities,JDR-JPM Allopathy/Pharm,StdfOlIn'tl,etc. Who continues to experience these ??!! 😞

[@kenhiett5266]

There's a big difference between allowing people to share unpopular opinions with controlling bots. David Pakman is well known for his sophistry.

[@fribersson]

Some people don’t understand hypotheticals. The word “if” is too much for them. They only think in “is” and “ought”. And usually confuse those two.

[@dark3031]

No, I think they understand. However they want to make it sound like Elon say certain things which they can twist and claim that Elon is racist, or transphobe, or any other phobe.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

Clearly You lack the definition of "Hypothesis"/Hypothetical, thus Thesis, Theory !! 😞 "IF" is conditional, often proposed, propositions, also speculation, conjecture, with assumptions, presumptions. Thus You are certainly "confuse" improper, incorrectly, falsely misled, misdirected, misinformed, mal-informed, dis-informed, inDOCtrinated with Propaganda, perhaps faulty thinking, thoughts, logic, reason, reasoning too ? as most all of the human masses !! 😞

[@derekjohnson5522]

Love it. LOGIC IS SELF EVIDENT

[@2listen2u]

This is racist towards purple people

[@jasonwatterson5739]

David Pakman thinking he more intelligent than Elon is mind blowing.

[@artkingofwholefoods74]

You are the BEST… 👏🏼

[@kevinstephens1109]

Awesomeness. Keep this up. More common sense/ critical thinking! This is what we need.

[@Zukadog]

Donna Lenin is beyond disingenuous

[@LoneWonderment]

Thank you for encouraging people to critically think outside of their feelings. It’s true, logic really does stand on its own.

[@tomhudson1]

Thank you for creating this channel. You are making important content!

[@c.e.anderson558]

They let unqualified students into Ivey league schools and they flunk out. Then they think less of themselves. If they were to go to a smaller college or community college they might prosper. And confidence is a very very important ingredient to success in a chosen field. I just had major back surgery and the surgeon was rather young but he exuded confidence. And I had confidence in him. Low self esteem is very very big part of failure.

[@ChosenSquirrel]

Your great the best logic is when you take what we have been trying to say and shorten it into a very small amount of words. I admire the simplicity in which you dismantle their questionable positions personally I struggle with believing David pakman isn't doing this on purpose . Bluring the lines with the intention of political gain from bluring definitions and things that should be very clear.

[@janethughes2775]

Always thought Lemon was dumb. But never imagined he is THAT dumb😂 maybe the contrast was too much since he was facing Musk 😂

[@HoneyBadger-atwork]

Nah, he really is that dumb😂

[@STEVEIAM1]

He thought a black hole swallowed a an airplane.

[@fanjan7527]

With more democracy, comes more freedom...and most important, comes more personal responsibility.

[@stevestephens4106]

This has become a war of intelligence and goodness vs evil/manipulative and the stupid

[@pureffm]

Yes, Jordan Peterson, Candace Owen and Majorie Taylor Greene are in the same boat. I am sick and tired of artificial digital opinion shaping.

[@ohsweetmystery]

Leftism, socialism and communism have always been the politics of envy against those who have achieved more.

[@kenbajema]

Reason prevails!

[@Chelanwechel]

Protect this man at all cost.

[@OlympiaCHUD]

He is a bomb and the explosion is currently happening. It’s happening in slow motion. It’s starting to tear at the upholstery. I still have breath in my lungs though. I freaking love this man.

[@justanothernick3984]

​@@OlympiaCHUD This is turning into a subculture of the conservative space, a form of circle for one set of ideas. Cult of personality. There is only agreement, in sheepish fashion. The DEI is true logically but we haven't seen any lowering of standards and no decline of services in the medical field or aviation. This is a scare tactic because in some fields merits can't be bought and sold. The counter to that is; everyone will not have access to the top surgeon or top pilot anyway. Like not all NBA teams will have access to LeBron James. And free speech is a myth. There are at least a few paradoxes in determining the Overton window, the paradox of tolerance and the Sorites paradox (grains of sand turns into a heap) meaning "who decides?". Even in the most humanitarian society, there needs to be some measures to take in order to hinder unwanted behavior. Logic is a good tool but it's not a silver bullet.

[@justanothernick3984]

@@OlympiaCHUD Comments disappearing here?

[@justanothernick3984]

@@OlympiaCHUD Here, a repost: This is turning into a subculture of the conservative space, a form of circle for one set of ideas. Cult of personality. There is only agreement, in sheepish fashion. The DEI is true logically but we haven't seen any lowering of standards and no decline of services in the medical field or aviation. This is a scare tactic because in some fields merits can't be bought and sold. The counter to that is; everyone will not have access to the top surgeon or top pilot anyway. Like not all NBA teams will have access to LeBron James. And free speech is a myth. There are at least a few paradoxes in determining the Overton window, the paradox of tolerance and the Sorites paradox (grains of sand turns into a heap) meaning "who decides?". Even in the most humanitarian society, there needs to be some measures to take in order to hinder unwanted behavior. Logic is a good tool but it's not a silver bullet.

[@justanothernick3984]

@@OlympiaCHUD My critique of this channel and it's comment section has been removed twice. So much for viewpoint diversity and if logic was actually applied, it would have been debunked by rationality instead of censorship. I'll see myself out.

[@ck4429]

So glad you do these videos, and objectively break down the questions (without getting emotional). Logic should be a required class for every college student--and even in high schools. My college logic class provided some of the best applicable critical thinking skills I've learned.

[@MELLIEbevhills]

I could listen to Warren for hours. Educator.

[@alinskyrocks784]

I subscribed so I’m alerted to the when you and JP discuss things. Really appreciate your measured responses and clear thinking.

[@compugasm]

"The problem with that argument is...." that _he_ doesn't like it.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

Simply put: "it does not fit 'his' contrived, devise, desired, directed, dictated, controlled narrative, portrayal.

[@orarinnvarsson]

Always relevant. Keep up the good work.

[@Primaate]

Keep it up Warren, you have a big future ala JBP track in KZbin etc

[@theformulated1]

Your analysis, breakdown, & thought process gained a new subscriber.

[@Kaztrofy]

Evidence and logic is oppressive and offensive, can't bring that up in a "discussion" these days.

[@FFVincent52]

"Schools should just allowing bullying to happen, because you are infringing on the freedom of the bully right to express themselves." -David Packman, I think.

[@Albert_Einstein_not]

It’s astounding that Americans need this to be explained in such great detail with great effort. This is very basic reasoning

[@newtonfirefly3584]

These issues are clearly worldwide, within all humans, in every country

[@theApeShow]

Brilliant!

[@nstents7781]

Unironically asking with a teacher's true concern "Does that make sense?" was the high point for me.

[@robertaglass]

This was great! They have lowered the standards for police officers here in NYC. Also they are eliminating the bar exam for aspiring lawyers in Washington State.

[@ReversGames]

My argument for not allowing doxing, harassment, or even spam is that you are infringing on other people's free speech with those behaviors. IRL I can't sit there shouting over you in a town hall meeting. You need some basic rules of decorum in a any real or internet space to protect each person's right to speak. You have a civic duty to protect the rights of others.

[@leinadniser]

Doxing and harassment are already against terms of service and spam is generally coming from bots (individuals spamming would fall under harassment) which is already a target for X. I fail to see what point you are making here.

[@ReversGames]

@@leinadniser Warren was trying to defend Musk for saying that he is a free speech absolutist and yet he censors the free speech of people who want to dox, harass, and spam. I think Warren missed a very important reason for silencing those people. We are looking for valid rights based reasons to violate people's rights. For example stopping me from harassing you is violating my rights. What would justify me being silenced?

[@MrS-pe6sd]

It seems clear that Don Lemon is once again uninformed. He doesn’t seem to understand that standards are being lowered to increase the DEI population among doctors. Elon should’ve picked up on this and educated him.

[@ColinFox]

I haven't had an issue with Packman before, but his point here was stupid. Bots do not have free speech rights, so just remove that from the conversation right off the top. As to getting rid of spam, business has every right to keep that material off their platform. The ugly thing about free speech is that you're not always going to like what people say. It's important that they be allowed to say unlikeable things. The answer to such unlikable things is to post your own counter to it. Educate. Illuminate. Otherwise it's a slippery slope. I'm an atheist, and I certainly don't want some christian fundamentalist removing MY right to criticize the bible because they don't like what I have to say. As for doxing - Doxing is giving away someone else's private information. That is not yours to provide. That's basically identity theft, and that is illegal. You should be able to say whatever you want to say, but you can't give away other people's stuff, especially their personal information.

[@madMARTYNmarsh1981]

All that happens by increasing the resource/applicant pool from 100 to 120 is that more competent applicants get rejected. If you want 20 applicants from 100, that is 80 rejected, that increases to 100 if the pool is 120. What happens is that discrimination increases.

[@garywhitt98]

Thank you. These are golden examples of the critical thought process.

[@penneyburgess5431]

Thank you.

[@PrincessFionaYT]

It’s simple game theory. Equal outcomes are by definition suboptimal.

[@humer1971]

it's com·mu·nism

[@newtonfirefly3584]

@@humer1971 Also contained within their philosophy, especially within practice @Princess_Feona; perhaps these ideas are used within the use of commonly called "game theory" exercises, "studies", simulations; all which are within the Globalist/Elite" Agenda of One World Governance. Equal outcome is NOT Equality, but intentionally, artificially directed, dictated, controlled process for the desired outcome. Each individual, as created, are unique, thus not equal by definition, intention, purpose, with meaning, good by Our Creator All directed, dictated, controlled process for desired, intended outcome, especially with humans, is distorted, in-equal, unequal treatment, prejudice, discrimination, bigotry, negative, improper bias, with harmful, detrimental results including lower standards, mediocre, sub-optimal, etc. Each individual is given their unique set of attributes, aspects, abilities, capabilities, which can be developed, for their individual purpose, intent, meaning. This is what each proper parent, also educator, teacher know, thus implement, which can be expanded into, within society for the benefit with each individual and the aggregate, society benefit too. In the USA, original system with Free Enterprise, extremely limited Authority Government, as intended, limited, explicitly within the US Constitution, Republic including Individual Rights & Freedoms within 1-10A, added 14A, each individual has an "equal opportunity" to achieve, succeed, choose, select, decide, etc, according to their unique individual needs, desires, goals, abilities, capabilities, aspects, attributes, etc., without the restrictions, regulations, limitations, confinement, interference, etc. All is not perfect, but the best system available with the greatest opportunity. All The Best, Sincerely

[@sirius_s2028]

Keep up your valuable work.

[@radiantmind8729]

Bots & spam cannot be allowed for very practical reasons. Eliminating bots is necessary because when approaching potential advertisers, it is essential to be able to disclose an accurate number of users on the platform. It is necessary to eliminate spam to enhance the user experience. Unchecked spam will make a platform unusable.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

False !! A. Bots are just programs; they exist within every platform by the platform along with users. Actually cannot be stopped, policed, prevented or necessarily detected. Their use has positive and negative affects, intents, purpose, results B. so called "SPAM" are just mass media, promotion, proliferation, or determined by a specific set of criteria -> also via program, automation, 'bot' C. Your claims about SPAM results are actually false, but allowing individual users to determine which to be personally blocked, is certainly the best; ie email accounts,Telegram Good Luck

[@zitternden]

The illogic floating around out there is mind boggling.

[@paulm749]

Lot's of malice too. Together, those two take people to some very bad places.

[@amandawalsh9560]

Thank you so much for this clarification! Great job!

[@carolynfabrieflores1263]

Don Lemon was trying to rephrase the questions to get the answers he wanted.

[@rifz42]

just like Kathy Newman did

[@colinmcmb]

Of course it's more complicated than that.

[@gteaz]

Stupid people will challenge Elon.

[@lisamcfatter9234]

Exactly!

[@TheYahmez]

You speaking from experience¿

[@Randy-lj9qk]

@@TheYahmez The wise learn from the mistakes and experiences of others so as to make the better choice in some matter at hand. So the experience in this case is the STUPIDITY of Don Lemon as something to be repulse at all cost. However those like yourself, those other than wise have the privileged of NOT learnng

[@gteaz]

@@TheYahmez I won't challenge Elon or other intelligent people like myself, I don't need to, we both have the same mindset, we both want to make the world a better place now and for later generations. Fortunately I've never had that experience.

[@TheYahmez]

@@Randy-lj9qk You lot are hilarious 😂 👨‍🦯

[@DIN_A8]

What is this 😂 is this a bit ? Its hilarious 😂😂😂

[@silvermineband2719]

The best way to illustrate this to most people is to use athletics. If the NFL decided they needed 10% Asian or Nordic or any other under represented ethnicity within their ranks, the ONLY way to achieve this would be to lower the standards. Even if they added another 30 teams so as to provide more roster spots so no current players would lose their jobs, the standards would have to be lowered. It’s not a difficult concept unless you’re blinded by ideology.

[@newtonfirefly3584]

Your example seems simple, but not necessarily correct, accurate. Any "sport", "athletics", can be developed within nearly all types of various people within the world; just finding those with the given attributes, aspects, for that specific athletics, sport, etc., then developing those to achieve their best and according to the desire, necessary level. Certainly, the incorrect, improper, misuse would be to change, lower the level, standard to promote any one individual or group as determined, desired, though those individuals do not meet, achieve the level with others, along with excluding other with equal or higher levels simply because those individuals to not fit into the desired group of individuals which has nothing to do with the athletics, sport, function, performance, etc. That process with preferences, is certainly called improper, invalid, discrimination, prejudice, bigotry, negative bias. Simple. Period.