I crashed my mini 4 pro AND my Mavic 3 - DON'T try this at home!

[@pdtech4524]

Interesting test, just shows how basic and crude these 'obstacle avoidance' sensors are really on the 'higher end' drones.😮🤔 As pilots we have higher expectations of them to be super efficient and avoid every obstacle, in reality they rarely do. I've been flying with 4 or 5 other drone pilots in the same location and the chances of hitting each other is almost negligible. 1 other drone with the pilot 500m away is not really a high risk of collision, it's possible but the odds would be like winning the lottery! 😁👍

[@nobby-green]

We do indeed and the OA is hit and miss pardon the pun😁 I agree that it’s a one in a million but apparently there is a video on here somewhere of this very situation happening 😳 thanks 🙏

[@doughoegner]

Many times I have mentioned this test to drone channels. You are the first I have seen conduct the test. I have the two same drones as you. I'm glad you did the test instead if me!

[@nobby-green]

It’s just something I’ve wanted to test for a while and maybe I’m the only one that would test it 😁. And luckily both are back up and running thanks 🙏

[@pereirinhadrone-1948]

Parabéns por se dispor como cobaia pra ajudar a todos. Foi confiando demais nas especificações de um Mini 2 que o perdi um no quinto vôo.

[@nobby-green]

Que bom que você achou útil. obrigado 👍

[@MrVideowill]

Hope there's not too much damage Nobby. Good test.

[@nobby-green]

They are both fixed and working as they should 👍 thanks 🙏

[@Kenners.]

Thank you my friend. a great heads up.

[@nobby-green]

You're welcome Buddy 👍

[@bobwhitewo3b]

Thanks for the video and the test Nobby. Sorry you had to go through all the repairs but happy that you didn't have any major/unfixable damage. Cheers, Bob

[@nobby-green]

Yes Bob. If I couldn’t of fixed them I would of sent them to DJI thanks 🙏

[@HikeFly22]

I had my mini 3 and 4 flying together the other night and face to face neither of them alerted for obstacles so I assumed they were not seeing each other. Now I know for sure. Thank you for sharing this and glad all you had to do was replace props.

[@nobby-green]

OA doesn’t work at night and that’s probably why 👍 thanks 🙏

[@HikeFly22]

@@nobby-green good call I was indoors with good lighting and they picked up everything else around but I'll have to try it again outside during the day

[@nobby-green]

@@HikeFly22 be careful! 😳

[@DronesForGodsGlory]

You sir always do things over the top of all the others...best drone channel around...so of course you would be the very first to wreck 2 drones at once...lol?? i pray all is well and repairs are swift and lasting...may God flood you in His peace and safety i pray as well...

[@nobby-green]

Thank you for the kind words 🙏 both drones are back up and running 👍

[@DroneEksplorer]

We thank you for your dedication and sacrifice. It's a bit sad that APAS 5 is still so unreliable, I finally hit a wall today while testing this obstacle avoidance system. We are waiting for APAS10 with 3D lidar...

[@nobby-green]

You’re welcome I think there’s only me mad enough to attempt this one 😁It’s not 100% that is a fact! In your case it should of seen a wall 🤷‍♂️ thanks 🙏

[@maineman0866]

Thanks, Nobby. Once again, you have given us valuable insight on how these aircraft we love to fly really work! Another mile on the road to wisdom!

[@nobby-green]

Thanks buddy 👍

[@georgekelly1948]

Good advice, Nobby. I won’t be trying this at home or anywhere. Cheers from Wisconsin, U.S.A.

[@nobby-green]

Thanks George and yes best not eh? 👍

[@travelanddrones3773]

Ouch that is painful ! Thanks for sharing / educating us .

[@nobby-green]

It was indeed. At least they lived to fly again ☺️ thanks 🙏

[@Lee.gRC27]

Glad you sorted the drones, and thanks for doing this test

[@nobby-green]

you're welcome and thanks 🙏

[@PeterNewbold]

Thanks that was very informative. but was Obstacle Avoidance in Bypass Mode. in normal mode or Nifty Mode

[@nobby-green]

It was in bypass and normal mode thanks 🙏

[@philipmaude]

keep the videos coming i am new to DJI have a 4 Pro and love it. I am on the South Down and wow

[@nobby-green]

Thanks buddy. Glad you’re enjoying the 4 pro. Nice little drone 👍 thanks 🙏

[@johnhoover3345]

As Dave said below, perhaps the foliage at that low altitude made the M3 more difficult to see from the Mini's POV. I've done this same type of test with my Mavic 1 and a huge Typhoon I have but at 30 feet in the air. Kept the Q500 hovering and ran the Mavic at it slowly in Normal mode. The Mavic spots it every time. Doesn't go around it, rather, it simply comes to a halt. Cheerio Mate from Calif.

[@nobby-green]

Could well have been. I had the mini 4 set to bypass mode and looking at the footage it did detect it but failed to go around on the last attempt . Thanks 🙏

[@azramarizona8148]

Thanks that was very informative.

[@nobby-green]

Thanks 🙏 ☺️

[@randymorgan-droneovermichigan]

Wow! Glad you still got your drones!

[@nobby-green]

Mee to Randy 🙏 they live to fly again thanks

[@dave20thmay]

Hi Nobby. That unfortunate collision seemed to be when the mini was in the area with dark background. Wonder if that is why the Mavic did not see it. Now to follow and see the accident investigation. Amazing amount of water around and in the Trent. Best Dave

[@nobby-green]

Maybe Dave. Funny how it worked twice before. Yes the rain keeps coming although it’s not so fierce now. Thanks 🙏

[@conorstewart2214]

Neither will do any form of obstacle avoidance other than from below when they are stationary, so they never would have done anything against anything coming from above or horizontally.

[@peterjb49]

That's awful! Sorry for your community and your drones. I crashed my Mini 3 about 2 weeks ago, thankfully I had care refresh and a day ago got my brand new Mini3.

[@nobby-green]

Thanks. 🙏 glad you got yours covered 👍

[@Burtonupontrentrailwaystoday]

Great footage on an app like sky scanner does it show others flying in the area

[@nobby-green]

I have idea but might be worth trying 👍

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Precision screw drivers..... I've got a good kit containing "every size". The screw driver coming with the drone was the one that fits the best! Remember to keep a firm pressure when turning Philips screws! Why is there only one thumb up available?

[@nobby-green]

Trouble is with the one that comes with it it ain’t long enough to get the purchase 👍

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

@@nobby-green Ehh? Not long enough? My Mini 3 Pro brought a good screw driver regarding the tip. Length? Enough for my thumb and pointer finger..

[@nobby-green]

@@Stefan_Boerjesson yes but the longer the screwdriver the easier the purchase for turning the screw 👍

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

@@nobby-green I don't understand but You can drop tje question.

[@nobby-green]

@@Stefan_Boerjesson think of it like a wheel brace on your car. if its longer the less force you have to get the nut loose. :)

[@jeffmcclain]

...all the more reason I'm hopeful that DJI will add display of "drone near-by" and position on the HUD for RFID like they do on Air 2/Mavic 3 for ADS-B of planes/helis. If we HAVE TO have RFID, I'm hopeful they add reception/display of it if any signals are seen. It would dramatically add to the safety of flying in congested drone areas...

[@nobby-green]

Would be nice but I can’t see it happening. 👍

[@digitalkiteaerial]

Ouch! Thanks for taking 2 for the team

[@nobby-green]

Thanks 🙏 at least they lived to fly again 👍

[@alsstuff]

Thanks for that Nobby - very interesting. I wonder if, apart from the dark background, the speed was slightly faster on the last test? I'll certainly keep one of mine in the case when the other is flying in the future 🥺

[@nobby-green]

It did look faster I must agree but I guess from the front view camera it did. And yes I should too 😁 thanks 🙏

[@aliensstolemybeer5362]

I have drone footage from beeston/clifton weir side showing the devastation on my channel. I couldn't believe how high the water had risen. So sorry to hear about your drones, I hope you carry on flying regardless.

[@nobby-green]

Yes I’ve flown down there too. I fact you can see a snippet in my intro of the weir. Oh yes they are back up and running 😁 thanks 🙏

[@peterjb49]

Why did you not send the Mavic 3 for repair or get a new one? Did you have care refresh on that drone? It would have bothered me very much if that happened to my Mavic 3 classic.

[@nobby-green]

On inspection I saw it was an easy fix. If I couldn’t have I would have sent it in. Thanks 🙏

[@droneartmedia]

Very good point Nobby,. I've always had that thought in the back of my mind when I've been filming content (mainly my cruise ship stuff) there could be likely more than just me going for that same particular shot and you wouldn't know until it was too late. Glad there wasn't too much damage mate, and it wasn't over the water 😊👍

[@nobby-green]

Indeed. You never know who’s in the sky 😁 thanks 🙏

[@123liftoff]

Wow what a useful video. Really disappointed with OA on drones. I fly a mini 4pro and it’s good to know that it won’t see another drone.

[@nobby-green]

Thanks 🙏 and yes they are not 100% reliable 👍

[@rodeggins971]

Hey Nobby, I have been following your channel for quite a long time now I have a air 3 at the moment and also a mini 4 pro When I set my camera to jpeg and raw, to download my pictures I use the Dji quick connect and then upload to my iPad I can see the jpeg. No problem, but how do I access the RAW files please?

[@nobby-green]

@@rodeggins971 unfortunately you can’t download raw files this way. You need to transfer them manually from the drone or sd card 👍

[@rodeggins971]

Well , I don’t appear to be able to get my apple devices to read DJI files

[@nobby-green]

@@rodeggins971 try searching for them using the finder window. My Mac sees them 👍

[@andyairshots]

Great test, you are a braver man than me lol.. Looking at that a couple of times and it seems the actual collision happened when the Mavic 3 was below the skyline, On test 2 , 3 and the first part of test 4 you could see sky surrounding it. Glad there is not too much damage. 👍😁

[@nobby-green]

Could have been a number of factors. Main thing is the OA is not reliable 😁 thanks 🙏

[@steve61098]

@@nobby-greenIsn’t the OA the main reason/difference for ‘upgrading’ from a mini 3 pro?….

[@nobby-green]

@@steve61098 no Steve you also get other features such as waypoints 👍 I did a review on the mini 4 pro on my channel OA is on the 3 pro too but no side sensors

[@1FlyingCamera]

Thanks for the video! 🎉🎉🎉

[@nobby-green]

You’re welcome ☺️ thank you 🙏

[@garylinnane917]

There's a video on KZbin of a guy flying his drone on a beach facing out towards the ocean and sun. Out of nowhere, another drone comes out from the sun glare, and both drone hit each other head on

[@nobby-green]

Wow I’d like to see that. Confirms my testing then 👍

[@Joe-wk9ow]

I think Obstacle avoidance would be better when they put lidar on the sensors.

[@nobby-green]

Be too expensive I would imagine 👍

[@richardradon]

Hi Nobby. Good video. I tried the same thing as you but I never got as close as you did lol. Glad there's not to much damage. I all so tried to track my air 3 with my Mini 4. I could get a lock on but as soon as there were trees in the background it would lose lock on :( I did think putting some bright coloured stickers to bring up the contrast.... I've not tried it yet. Regards Richard

[@nobby-green]

I’ve tried with several drones to track another but as soon as you move it loses the lock. 👍 thanks 🙏

[@leesir4897]

I'm thinking that even if the obstacle avoidance worked who os to say that both drones wouldn't have taken the same evasive maneuver and crashed anyway. Also if both drones are moving could the processor keep up with decision making. Great video and glade the damage was minor.

[@nobby-green]

Some good points but I guess that’s one test I couldn’t do alone 😁 thanks 🙏

[@grossi46]

Great test buddy 👍. I want to try epidemic sound but when I click on your link it says 7 days free trial not a month 🤔

[@nobby-green]

I’ll check my link out and let you know. There was 2 months at one stage. I’ll come back to you 👍 thanks 🙏

[@grossi46]

​@nobby-green cheers buddy

[@nobby-green]

@@grossi46 Seems that they have now changed it to 7 days, but it will give you chance to try it, and you get to keep the music if you dont sign up. Its definitely worth it in my opinion. Thanks

[@bigfoot-g4i]

that video will save a lot of drone flyers repair costs well done for pointing it out mate.

[@nobby-green]

Thank you 🙏

[@WeretheRoberts]

Lol that sucks, man! Crashing one would be bad enough for me. I don’t think there’s a way to prepare seeing 2 drones crash. Great video. I’d agree. If it don’t work 100% of the time, the answer is no, eh?

[@nobby-green]

The answer is a big no Kevin lol. But then you know me with testing haha 😛 I thought I’d got this then bang 💥 stay safe man and watch out for drones 🙏

[@CAMTechChris]

Good test Nobby.

[@nobby-green]

Thanks Chris 👍

[@Earle63]

Oh no Nobby, good test!

[@nobby-green]

I know buddy. Thanks 🙏

[@LAP1050]

Nobby, sorry for the mishap and damage to your drones. The results speak for themselves, Dji’s APAS needs work. I wonder what Dji would say regarding this issue might be worth a try reaching out to them. Maybe they would replace one or both of your drones. Regards Lou🇺🇸

[@nobby-green]

Hey Lou possibly but I guess it was my fault flying them as I did 😉 thanks 🙏

[@LAP1050]

Nobby, Lou here. I would let Dji be the judge of that. Perhaps inviting Dji to review the video and your portfolio of videos showing that you provide possitive content for their brand and are NOT an amateur. In this case, you were testing the capabilities of two very popular Dji drones and their most popular technology. It's worth a try. I'm certain Dji would prefer positive "customer service" comments than a company with no regard for their customer's needs and reasonable expectations.As someone always says, "lets do this"😊@@nobby-green

[@ColinsCapers]

What is the better drone for beginners?

[@nobby-green]

That all depends on the budget and what you want from it. The DJI mini 3 pro is on offer most of the times but lacks some of the features of the 4. Less restrictions on the minis too 👍

[@Harrison-v9u]

I did this test a the 2 drones wanted to pull together.it was like the electrical component were drawn together.

[@nobby-green]

Could have been the props pulling them together? 🤷‍♂️ thanks 🙏

[@camilo8cheryl]

Thanks for taking one or two drones sacrifice’s for the team👍

[@nobby-green]

Thanks 🙏 luckily it wasn’t too expensive 😳

[@StreakyP]

Some of Ken Heron's crash videos have shots of the 1:1,000,000 chance of successful drone mating in 3 dimensions at altitude so it certainly can happen. Things seem to be exacerbated by the combined speed of closure at times which wouldn't allow any auto systems time to react, also the fact with panning/backing out shots not having visibility in direction of flight. Auto systems may protect against of backing into big slow things like trees, but if they can already miss some less obvious wirestrike risk (against something stationary & not as obvious as trees) then it is not unexpected that something small & fast could easily outstrip the protection. One of the silliest/most avoidable crashes shown was 2 people using the same take-off pad.... one drone landing in auto RTH at the same time as another ascending from take-off at the same time. The auto avoidance also wasn't successful there.

[@nobby-green]

Some great points thanks 🙏

[@debeunproducties]

hello i had the same problem with my air 3 and it chrashed into a tree the sensors are not working good at all dji said the tree was to thinn so the sensors didnt see it but its a big problem of the sensors

[@nobby-green]

I certainly don’t trust them 100% thanks 🙏

[@terryrccrazy6993]

Nice video, tough luck with that

[@nobby-green]

I know 😳 at least they fly again 🙏

[@johnnymac26]

"Tis a mere scratch sir"!!!! lol sorry mate but could have been worse and now we know so your the man as always brilliant mate

[@nobby-green]

No scratches Johnny but full sets of props used 😅 oh wait a small nick on the 4 thanks 🙏

[@johnnymac26]

@@nobby-green replace in pairs.....dji always say...yeah right lol

[@nobby-green]

@@johnnymac26 I was taking no chances lol 😂

[@TheLebbs2001]

Does anyone find that the standard batteries not hold a charge when stored for a few weeks

[@nobby-green]

They won’t hold charge. They are designed to discharge over time to protect the batteries 👍

[@TheLebbs2001]

@nobby-green cheers thought I had a set of duds batteries 🔋

[@nobby-green]

@@TheLebbs2001 no worries. Now you know 👍

[@katesmiles4208]

Smash up derby drone style 🤣❤

[@nobby-green]

Definitely 🤣 they live to fly again 👍 thanks 🙏

[@Surfdronesd]

Bummer, but great video.

[@nobby-green]

Yeah sure was 😄All is good now thanks 🙏

[@conorstewart2214]

I do wonder why DJI decided to make the drones not respond to obstacles when stationary, seems like it would be an obvious thing to add.

[@nobby-green]

I guess because of gps positioning and the hover feature. They do warn you with the radar system 👍

[@SimplyScotlandPhotography]

You might want to point out that if you try and fix damaged drones yourself it will cancel any care refresh from DJI. The classic was never going to move away as it was hovering. However the so called all singing pro 4 mist definitely should have avoided. But then as i have seen with other 4 pros don't believe the hype .

[@nobby-green]

Absolutely. I don’t trust the sensors on the mini drones 👍 thanks 🙏

[@SimplyScotlandPhotography]

@@nobby-green Did you think the Classic was going to avoid the mini?

[@nobby-green]

@@SimplyScotlandPhotography no not at all. The drones won’t move if they are stationary. Hence the first part of the test. 👍

[@ptaylor5014]

Rodney, YOU PLONKER! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@nobby-green]

That’s right trigger 😁 thanks 🙏

[@BrianKushner]

How many times were you going to temp fate? You got 3 out of 4!!!

[@nobby-green]

Well I guess if I had stopped at 3 then everyone would think it was given that it would 👍 thanks 🙏

[@blackydon]

Thanks. This is why I love your videos, because you do test things with your drones so we don’t have to. By the way, No way is that the walk of shame but the walk of wisdom and knowledge.🫡

[@nobby-green]

Thanks buddy. That means a lot 🙏

[@blackydon]

@@nobby-green You’re welcome. Thanks for your videos. Absolutely educational. 🫡

[@KevinByrne-l4t]

You Silly Billy Nobby ! !🥺🥺😱😱

[@nobby-green]

Yep 😁 only me mad enough to test it eh? Thanks 🙏

[@BazFairbrother]

Oh man, that's a great test but with a savage outcome 😢

[@nobby-green]

Sure was 😁 but at least now we all know 👍 thanks 🙏

[@myworldmivida4977]

I imagine speed will be the main issue as the drones reaction time is going to be massively affected

[@nobby-green]

Quite possibly however the sensors just aren’t reliable in my opinion 👍 thanks 🙏

[@mickeytheviewmoo]

I am sceptical about the frog eye design. I have seen a few videos where blind spots can occur. I would say if you had tried the same manoeuvre using the Mini 3 pro instead, the crash would not of happened.

[@nobby-green]

Thats a pretty good point actually. 👍

[@kingisrael1532]

So this is what would be taking place inside of a FRIA apparently.

[@nobby-green]

Really? Thanks 🙏

[@1NickyFan69]

That was Cool! Do it again

[@nobby-green]

It won’t be happening again 😁

[@jimthorleydronefootage]

Oh, you never nobby. You know the mini 4 is made out of recycled twigs, and we know how the obstacle avoidance can't see those invisible twigs,lol. I was never under any illusion. 2 drones coming together would be a disaster. I'm glad it wasn't a total disaster but a good test all the same. Let's everyone know what to expect. Happy flying nobby👍

[@nobby-green]

Sure thing Jim. That’s why I perform these test 😳 thanks 🙏

[@xtianplaza]

Testing can sometimes be good, but in this case there is only one question: Why?

[@nobby-green]

I thought that was pretty obvious? 🤷‍♂

[@ontheroadaustralia-soleman1911]

Oh no Nobby

[@nobby-green]

I know 😳 thanks 🙏

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

Side by side..... The left is during flooding. Look at the bridge pillars. Much of dirt in the water.... Your flooded area is much larger then the one I recorded some time ago, and today. Happy not living there. Floating houses are nedded... Reading the tittle i wondered if You've got completely out of Your mind, crashing two drones (assumed 2 different occasions). There are videos showing OA versus braking action. They were done towards a stationary object. Flying nose towards nose a crash is guaranteed. No braking action whatsoever would prevent a crash. Never count on OA is my idea. Once got the red part cirles high up in the air and wondered what on earth the reason was. Still no idea. Last Christmas I was asked to fly and make some recordings. Quickly the low afternoon light made the drone (Mavic 3 Pro) system tell: OA not available. In darkness night camera mode was selected. The same message, OA not available in that mode. The less of automatic functions one use and the more piloting, the better. Some flying has been done in controlled airspace. When filling in the request form existing drone flyers are shown. Then its very satisfactory to here from air traffic control that there's air between us. Last time 2 flights resulted in 12 phone calls with the tower! Several urgent helicopter flights contributed. The tower seemed to have got all papers flying around, and ending the wrong flight, my ongoing flight.... But we sorted it out... Those 2 flights have more to tell....

[@nobby-green]

Yes they were shot on two separate occasions 👍

[@Stefan_Boerjesson]

@green Yes, naturly. Well presented. No crash there.

[@nobby-green]

@@Stefan_Boerjesson thanks 🙏

[@ewkerman4185]

This is why we need warning lables on everything.

[@nobby-green]

Well yes. But it wouldn’t stop some folks 😉 thanks 🙏

[@TheSkilzman69]

cant understand how you are smiling buddy

[@nobby-green]

It’s in my nature and I was able to fix them 😁

[@ejo1960]

That is a lot of money man! (that's what I shouted when the drones hit one another)

[@nobby-green]

They sure are! But they live to fly again. Thanks 🙏

[@kamikazekaos]

I was hoping you did more over the soft grass but you was half and half with the road😮 not nice to dent your pride😮😢

[@nobby-green]

Luckily for me they both fell on the grass 😳 thanks 🙏

[@ajburgs8791]

I have literally seen it all now 🙈🤣👍🏻

[@nobby-green]

Glad you enjoyed it 🤣

[@OrganicGonzalez]

😢🦅🛸🎥😭 AIR3 TIME

[@nobby-green]

They both live to fly another day 👍 thanks 🙏

[@southyorkshiremountainbiki3003]

😭😭😭

[@nobby-green]

I know 😁 at least they lived with a bit of tlc 👍

[@anderssigfeldt335]

Shit happens ! I smashed my mini 4 pro , when i make an experiment my self Anders Sweden Gothenburg

[@nobby-green]

It sure does 👍

[@jamesweist8599]

8 yrs flying bro , no crashes yet for me 1,000s of hrs

[@nobby-green]

My first in 7 years and we could say it was intentional 😁 but it could have worked eh? Thanks 🙏

[@Feakre]

lol, muppet 😉

[@nobby-green]

😀👍

[@infiveg]

😂😂😂 Как уничтожить 5000$???🤣🤣 Гениально!!!

[@nobby-green]

Действительно! 😀

[@richardcrouch356]

Oooops

[@nobby-green]

Yep 👍 😁 thanks 🙏

[@IslandDigital]

$10 here in USA

[@Dreamkeeeper]

Ill not do that then . Thanks

[@nobby-green]

Definitely not ☺️👍

[@jesustrias8437]

🤦‍♂ UFFF ...

[@nobby-green]

Yep 😳 thanks 🙏

[@hectorcabrera5824]

What a dumb thing to do!

[@nobby-green]

Well yes but then we would of never known 🤷‍♂️

[@weseehowcommiegoogleis3770]

That's darn near funny, but not.

[@nobby-green]

I can laugh about it now 😁 they live to fly again 👍 thanks 🙏

[@gabrielsansar6187]

same test with blade protectors.. over grass not tarmac.. flying as low and slow as it can and probably no damage just a bounce off

[@nobby-green]

Good point 👍

[@Dave-sb4iy]

Thanks for that insight Nobby; sorry about the consequences though, hope you get everything sorted. But what are the chances of a mid flight collision I wonder, to be in the same precise position and at the same altitude? Maybe 1 in 2 - 5 billion? If I see another flyer I don’t tend to worry 🤔🫣

[@nobby-green]

I think the odds are pretty stacked in our favour 👍