I created a BOOMING ECONOMY out of a LITERAL ROCK

This easter egg of a nation is Jan Mayen - a releasable nation in Victoria 3. Known with the codename "the bear has landed" in EU4, you can play as them in Victoria 3. However, this nation is truly terrible, and I mean that. Starting with a low population and no natural resources, this really is the worst start in Victoria 3. If you're looking for the hardest start in Victoria 3, look no further.
I created a BOOMING ECONOMY out of a LITERAL ROCK
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[@EmporerDragon]

Part 2 needs to see Jan Mayen enter into an unholy alliance with Oregon. All will fear the banners of the beaver and the bear.

[@killermetalwolf2843]

fr fr

[@jetex1911]

I need this pairing, I haven't seen an independent non-player Oregon until now and they need to survive

[@R0dolphus]

Fun Jan Mayen fact! Brendan the Navigator, who found the island, thought he had found the gates of hell due to volcanic activity in the area.

[@aminatandour589]

Lol!

[@sicksock435446]

Fun Jan Mayen fact! Brendan the Navigator, who thought he found the gates of hell, was actually 1700km North of the actual gates of hell, located in Glasgow Scottland...

[@willtheturtle7039]

Nice rock bro

[@erupting2036]

Thanks, you'res is cool too

[@Darbing]

Nice 69 likes bro

[@flyingspinners1]

Thanks! Did you know this rock produces 17 million pounds every year

[@alvinjunier6644]

This guy is a spiffing brit copy same video 3 months before this one

[@thewafflegamer6152]

Yes

[@kabobawsome]

So, Jan Mayen is not it's own state. It's a split state with Northern Norway. When you get annexed, re-merges the split states, and it stops tracking that split state and merges all of Northern Norway's buildings and doesn't actually track where each one is. Then, when you release it, *that's* when the game decides what buildings and population are, and it decides based on physical size. Since Jan Mayen is a tiny rock in the ocean, and the rest of Northern Norway is fairly big, it assigns no buildings and a tiny population. Even though literally yesterday, it was one of the most prosperous economies in the world. Oh, yeah, and the devastation you saw later, even though there was not even a physical connection. OH YEAH, AND THE REALLY AWFUL FACT THAT YOU CAN JUST MARCH ONTO AN ISOLATED ISLAND LIKE THE WATER WASN'T EVEN THERE. The split state system is REALLY dumb and pretty bad and needs to be overhauled.

[@ChrissieBear]

Yeah, the split state system is fairly poorly designed.

[@KissatenYoba]

split state system allows for better performance. It's a self-incurred problem of wanting to have a lot of small provinces you can walk over, thus having to optimize buildings and pop systems somehow (putting them all into states rather than tying them directly to provinces). But then Vic 2 also did this for optimization reasons

[@kabobawsome]

@@KissatenYoba It causes so so many more problems than in Vic2. It would be so easy just to have small background provinces (the game already does this for colonization and fronts) and assign each building and a percentage of the population to those provinces, but still do the calculations at state-level. The when a state is split it actually makes sense rather than teleporting an entire nation's worth of buildings and people across the sea. And, again, the game should be tracking what is and isn't connected by land. Oh, and the game should be smart enough to apply devastation in a reasonable manner to split states.

[@sephikong8323]

​@@KissatenYoba And this begs the question then of : why would they need so many provinces if they are used for LITERALLY NOTHING, because even the military system it's just ...... a single battle and the armies take like 6 provinces or something so what's the point of having so many ? It's like "we need a huge number of provinces for the game, but this many provinces destroy the game's performance so we're going to shift every calculation to state instead, but with a really broken system. Now that we have made a ton of concessions that made the game worse off to have our ten quadrillion provinces, we're going to do nothing with them 🙂"

[@KissatenYoba]

@@sephikong8323 presumably it has something to do with release CK3-era engine. IIRC they wanted to make CK3's map expandable with it's baronies? Maybe it's the opposite, they cut out Vic3's provinces when making CK3 (CK3 uses Vic3's portrait engine, so Vic3 was in development longer than CK3)

[@Leo.V]

Jan Mayem in EU4: ''I AM THE DESTROYER OF THIS WORLD, ALL SHALL FEAR ME'' Jan Mayen in Vicky3: Hello i'm smol

[@mikipiupew4107]

Is there a Jan Mayen in eu4?

[@earnurearendil7324]

​@@mikipiupew4107 the command to summon Jan Mayen is Thebearhaslanded

[@deyknor]

2:50 Laith: Hey game can I have a good country? Game: Only a spoonful. Laith: *Pulls out a comically small spoon*

[@zero_gravity5861]

thank you so much for not pronouncing it like the spiffing brit did. thank you, laith. thank you.

[@zero_gravity5861]

-ʤan- mayen

[@Zelein]

Laith, playing as Jan Meyen: "I'm the main character in this campaign." Meanwhile, in Oregon: "BEAVER FEVER!"

[@finleyengland1099]

i think it's funny you start with 5k population when it has like 30 residents irl

[@benjamintomassennordahl7911]

The island technically dosn't have any permanent residents just staff from the Norwegian Defence, Norwegian Metrological Organisation, and visiting geologists. None of which live there permanently, but are working there from a couple of weeks to a couple of months.

[@ericsoul604]

@@benjamintomassennordahl7911 Im gonna be the first

[@benjamintomassennordahl7911]

@@ericsoul604 I mean you would have to be squatting on Norwegian department of defence territory...

[@Swerving01]

That Quebec joke was top tier

[@TheJonnyjoh]

I'd love to know how on earth half a million people even find room to sleep on this rock in the northern atlantic ocean. xD

[@efulmer8675]

It's only 3,500 people per square mile or 1,340 people per square kilometer if the glaciers are also used, and 5,000 people per square mile or 1,920 people per square kilometer if the glaciers are off limits. This would make it incredibly dense, but it's not up to Kowloon Walled City levels of extreme so it's not surpassing anything the world has ever created yet.

[@TheJonnyjoh]

@@efulmer8675 Considering this is during the industrialization, I'd say it would be even worse, because they don't have the luxury of highrise buildings xD

[@pedrokiihl856]

@@efulmer8675 you should take into consideration that it's the mid 1850's, no modern sewage system and dense apartments to house everyone. People are probably living inside caves or shoddy houses everywhere

[@efulmer8675]

@@pedrokiihl856 Yes of course, I was merely pointing out that it doesnt exceed any historical precedents for population density so the people can absolutely all *fit* on the island. The real questions lie in how do they get enough *supplies?*

[@duncanr3313]

I’m astonished at how you play this game. I need a tutorial so I can build an economy

[@sahilanand4654]

I really like these videos where you start at rock bottom

[@chazbrown1139]

Would love to see this one continue where he makes Jan Mayen Scandinavia but not forming it

[@oracle372]

No that would PHYSICALLY HURT, he HAS to actually form it

[@oracle372]

Actually, the color is really nice so I change my mind

[@diseabronx5075]

Malta rules the waves. You can do it!! Also yes more Jan Mayan.

[@duphasdan]

I honestly wonder what the layout of any city on that island would look like. Looking at a real world map, practically half the island is a volcano, and the other half is mostly mountain looking with few places with flat enough area. The middle part is the flattest part, and even then it is mostly sandy beach and thin.

[@Gamereal6286]

Laith:"Why do I build Steel? I am ill and yet my vision is true I've never seen clearer in my life" By the way did you study philosophy too? Because that wasn't bad. But it was funny seeing you play on the island I used to watch on Spiffs Channel :) Part two would be fun

[@tsarevichivan]

when jan mayen has a larger population than wyoming

[@Arez-hu6nr]

I have been waiting for this series

[@FirstNameLastName-tg3rc]

I'd definitely watch a part 2 of this video. If you want even more of a challenge, could you try and win a war with Russia and take Finland?

[@LlamasAtMidnight]

17:10 I see that wonderful jump cut

[@anonymousperson4350]

Jan Mayen kinda looks like Norway, if they were facing the wrong way

[@user-wh5se3cb2y]

"We can continue this campain in the future" But I want it NOW!!! *Destroys an entire room*

[@misielo2424]

Spiffing Brit would be proud of you.

[@CJ21326]

Everybody: this is copying the spifing Brit 💀💀💀💀😳🚽

[@killermetalwolf2843]

That was hilarious, please continue this.

[@datmufn]

Spif better be earning royalties on this 😂

[@commissarkordoshky219]

Paradox games - especially Stellaris can have me waste a whole day and then make me stare off into the distance thinking about what it all means. . . Then I start a newgame xD

[@nelfaef]

We need a part 2 !

[@oracle372]

Okay, they NEED to fix that bug where all the buildings and people disappear

[@socratichero6612]

Technically the current King of England is Glucksburg thru his father, but instead goes by Hanover

[@markothegamer441]

Playing tropico in the far north 😂 nice vid keep on bringing them

[@deformem6622]

This island got 15 people today, and you managed to cramp half a million there

[@oneofmanyjames-es1643]

Isn't this the one Spiffing Brit did?

[@TheGraulund]

i did a Hawaian game where i stayed on the islands and built high. very fun save. joined the Austrian market early on and just stayed there. my literacy was at around 98% and my GDP went above 50 million. i enjoy your videoes - keep up the good work :D

[@TheCriminalViolin]

Definitely need to see a continuation of Jan Mayen! EMPIRE OF THE ROCK!!!

[@montiwajan]

I would be up for a part 2

[@manelgrinder3027]

I remember this

[@Steve_the_Radroach]

Nice to see someone else tackle Jan Mayern

[@Naughtychilee]

Kinda funny how he aughed at the name of the king, when the king of norway has the exact same name.

[@ck9292]

Jan Mayen is a really nice, calming green. I like it! Also, please keep playing this campaign. Long live Jan Mayens!

[@efulmer8675]

20:30 You can overcome the Overpopulation modifier (-100% at maximum penalty) by having a Trade Center (+25%), using the Greener Grass Campaign decree (+50%), having Loyal Intelligentsia (+25% or +50%), and following the Path to Liberalism journal which will allow you to get a permanent +25% migration attraction modifier for your entire country.

[@felipea1399]

Selk Nam was uncentralized which is crazy considering how high the standard of livong was

[@kvarts1554]

Did you know that the of name of the king of Norway IRL is Harald and he is of the house of Glücksburg?

[@francisarchambault9910]

"Revolutionary Québec" *Smiles*

[@sussychungus5355]

You have to continue this

[@thewalkingtree7077]

There would be so many documentaries about this

[@ryanh8567]

I dont play Vicky yet - so I dont have a base of knowledge in the mechanics yet. Is making furniture required for every nations economy to get started, or is it just Laith's preferred path?

[@thatponybro6940]

is Greenland a playable releaseable in Vicky 3, cause that sounds like torture

[@doxua1063]

I need part 2.

[@xenon_413]

First time I've heard of Northern Norway being taken for it's arable land.

[@TheDecWhale]

Recreating the North Sea Empire as Jan Mayen let's goooo

[@groerhahn225]

For quite some time, he had the amount of radicals in his country constantly flickering between 5 and 6. I imagine this group of 6 meeting in a barn once every week, but Steve can't come half the time because he's very commited to make it in the amateur snooker league and has important copetitions some days.

[@jenshendrickx2230]

Bro why are you uploading so late man, it’s 3am here in belgium💀

[@ChrissieBear]

Hell yeah, brother! do it!

[@redsuncloud]

Part 2 would be neato

[@freshes3851]

Fck, I thought i was clicking on the second part of Spiffing Brit's Jan Mayen series, :c

[@johnnotrealname8168]

What is weird is that as a subject you are still under a Monarchy.

[@Night-xn1ks]

Feels like laith has been sick for awhile

[@felix_639]

"glücksberg" is germany for luckmountain

[@mikipiupew4107]

As of today, 36 people live in Jan Mayen

[@mamiondish9482]

Spiffing Brit and Kinemod Copy

[@kieran4028]

Gibraltar rock next?

[@elvastan]

There like, isn't physically enough space for more than like 150 people to live on Jan Mayen

[@efulmer8675]

Jan Mayen is an island of 373 square kilometers. I think we can fit more than 150 people in 373 square kilometers.

[@edis0088]

Why it stole your buildings, is because jan mayen is a split state off northern norway. So when you got annexed, all the buildings and people moved to northern norway.

[@Hadar1991]

Today on Jan Mayen lives up to 35 people, while probably 200 men was max population that this Island ever have. The fact you start with 5,000 people is just bonkers.

[@YourLocalMairaaboo]

Jan mayen is a split state. All your buildings are going to the other, bigger half of the state, which means some random coastal town in norway gets the buildings and population.

[@Cohor101]

It is day 110 since I asked you to do the challenge with Croatia in VIC 3 but in one of the videos, a good person named Andraip (Thanks for all the help) said it has a few flaws so it's time to correct them. So when you start playing as Croatia you have 15 years to get your independence, after that you cannot ally, get in a defensive pact, and you cannot be under any kind of protection and you must rival these powers as soon as possible: Austria, Russia, Serbia, Montenegro, Ottomans, and all nations from the Italian boot. You also must embargo all those nations and cannot enter their custom union nor can they enter yours. You cannot be in an alliance with any of the top 10 nations, including a defensive pact custom union, or protectorate, but you can trade with them. AI must be put on the default settings in case it isn't. If you ally let's say Portugal, and later on they get into the top 10, you must break the alliance. You also must stay monarchy all the time. Form the Danubian state with Croatia following these rules. (FYI incase I didn't make it more specific, you cannot join anybody's custom union you must always at all times have your own market).

[@ChrissieBear]

Jan Mayen looks like the ursa minor constellation.

[@Fralegri]

Hi Laith! The higher th SoL the higher the wage! So that why labor saving MP are more profitable even when you don't have many pops. Little countries with high SoL have that problem, you have to make cheaper wages.

[@jedbrusan9304]

Hey, Im watching you Laith for quite long time and ever since released of V3 I've been curious about this game, I watched Koifish as well and I love your content guys and all but I just dont understand what is goal of V3 and cant decide wether to buy the game or not so help with a bit of advice :D Cheers and all the best, amazing content as always :D

[@efulmer8675]

There is no "goal" in V3. There is only one "lose" condition and that's getting fully annexed. It's a good game at the moment that shows a lot of promise and a lot of player-dev interaction in the discord server so I expect a lot of amazing development in its lifetime.

[@jedbrusan9304]

@@efulmer8675 oh, okay. So pretty much limited to imagination and fear of being annexed. Got ya, thank you!

[@koltrainz]

Jan Meyan world conquest when

[@steadybear91]

conquer all the northern islands (greenland, iceland, faroes..) and form scandinavia to unite all artic land

[@kimyeonahchannel]

If I'm not wrong, domineering attitude when you're already their subject basically means that they want to declare war on you to further integrate you (puppeting or full annex)

[@chihaya2299]

Create an economy out of a rock is what the neighboring Icelanders proud of.

[@juanmendez3290]

Please form scandinavia but with all their cores

[@thatoneplebb]

jan mayen part 2 when?

[@GileadGaming]

Day 7 of asking for a reverse colonial and Pacific Imperialist playthrough of the Philippines. Goals being to colonize, capture all of the South Pacific territory, colonize capture the Oceania territories, and capture Japan. Basically, all island nations in the south and east pacific belong to the Philippines on Victoria 3

[@alesiswhite9010]

This looks a lot more fun than hoi4

[@trivane626]

I thought the title was referring to the UK

[@ratzinger3814]

17:09 ??? what he say???

[@charliemoe7935]

Part two!

[@oldmanwaterfall]

Spiffing Brit?

[@harperwilson896]

why in debug mode

[@KA-pt1si]

Continue this and conquer Greenland and Iceland please!

[@KA-pt1si]

Unite the isles!

[@alexandrosvayakis4195]

We need Greater Jan Mayenland!

[@doctext-jose.e-3484]

Kinemod clone😭

[@EdinProfa]

I got to 27 SoL as Russia, as USA to 30.

[@NON155]

ITS A ISLAND GO PLAY LIBERIA

[@herbert2300]

Did you know jan mayan has volcanoes?

[@Avewyowo]

IT HAPPEND, I SUGGESTED THIS!

[@liamtan865]

day 34 of asking laith to please play more eu4 Anbennar, thank you, praise surakel, may you have a wonderful day.

[@PAINNN666]

Jan Mayen actually 2 islands).

[@o80y1]

I’m rock-hard rn, vro 💔

[@misteebond]

Didn't spiffy do this?

[@gustavosanches3454]

At least Paradox was charitable enough to give 5k population from the get go considering that Jan Mayen has no permanent human populaiton

[@connortheandroidsentbycybe7740]

Broke; there's not enough plastic in the sea to matter Woke; we need to stop polluting the sea Bespoke; the sea D O E S N T E X I S T

[@dueling101]

you should do Mexico in vicky 3 next time they are perfectly set to have their economy go crazy i got 1 billion gdp as them in my last game

[@markusfassbinder8275]

why does it say debug_mode?

[@pedro._.6296]

I would like to know how you can fit 500k people in a island that is smaler than some houses out there

[@dialectish]

It's 330 km sq. according to Wikipedia, that's not that bad. Around half of Singapore.