I created this sudoku puzzle. Why did this other guy sign it?

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Cracking The Cryptic

Cracking The Cryptic

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@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
Many thanks to Simon for setting this sudoku for me! I'm sure it would have taken me ages to figure out where to place all the lines, so this has been most helpful indeed. It was nice to take a day off.
@blackjackfitz
@blackjackfitz 8 ай бұрын
This puzzle has been criminally underrated on LMD, so glad it got a feature
@joethornton5321
@joethornton5321 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for letting us do some setting.
@n8style
@n8style 8 ай бұрын
Such a genius idea!
@carlsalaets
@carlsalaets 8 ай бұрын
I've always wanted to set a sudoku like this one. But it seems you beat me to it with a very elegant puzzle, more elegant than mine would ever be. Thanks!
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 8 ай бұрын
I bet you have a great grasp of transformations (including rotations, reflections and y = 10 - x). And an out-of-scale level of creativity. And I would be surprised if you had not used *placeholder digits* to build and test this mind-blowing puzzle, as I did to solve it. I explained my technique in a separate comment.
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 8 ай бұрын
I love the irony of a puzzle that is built on a fictional pretense of "slacking off" when in reality it is an intricately thoughtfully set puzzle that cannot have been easy to construct
@columbus8myhw
@columbus8myhw 8 ай бұрын
The theming is immaculate
@Akatsuki69387
@Akatsuki69387 8 ай бұрын
This is officially the most genius sudoku in the history of sudoku in my book. We've peaked. Time to wrap up. Everybody go home. *starts packing bags*
@Ffxfan197
@Ffxfan197 8 ай бұрын
The great thing about variant sudoku in the age of CtC is that every time we peak some brilliant mind finds a higher mountain for everyone to climb.
@timch5227
@timch5227 8 ай бұрын
Sudoku is peaking for more than 2 years now and its never going to go down
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 8 ай бұрын
The signature is such a clever and thematic way to avoid a symmetric ambiguity...
@karthick_michigooner7431
@karthick_michigooner7431 8 ай бұрын
I yhink arrow to the east also does take care of the ambiguity
@In_TheMoonlight
@In_TheMoonlight 8 ай бұрын
It really is!
@ArdourXL
@ArdourXL 8 ай бұрын
​@@karthick_michigooner7431Not quite, as even with that rule you can still mirror vertically in the 5th row and get another solution. Only the signature removes that symmetry
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 8 ай бұрын
@@karthick_michigooner7431 It probably does theoretically/structurally but in terms of solve path can't imagine the depth of bifurcation needed to get enough info to use the eastbound arrow to differentiate the positions of the other lines using that before already having it from the sig...
@ILMTitan
@ILMTitan 8 ай бұрын
@@karthick_michigooner7431 The arrow alone does not solve it, because you could flip the solution vertically. Only the signature prevents that.
@mfuriosa
@mfuriosa 8 ай бұрын
“I can’t think about the anti-chess constraint, I think that’s going to be where madness lies” HAHAHAHA this got me laughing for a long time 😂
@LedSomeFlops
@LedSomeFlops 8 ай бұрын
A great line that had me chuckling too. I love Simon's humor.
@daleomiller
@daleomiller 8 ай бұрын
“That’s very bad, because that works.” - Sentences you don’t expect to hear, but make perfect sense in context.
@77kaczka77
@77kaczka77 8 ай бұрын
A hypothesis cannot be right unless it can be proven wrong
@sirgeremiah
@sirgeremiah 7 ай бұрын
The number of times Simon disappointedly says "Oh, that works..." in his videos.
@Bokkie100k
@Bokkie100k 8 ай бұрын
Before the year is out we'll have an empty grid, regular sudoku rules, one constraint and a 3 in one of the corners. And Simon's solve will entertain us for a whole weekend.
@Jaze327
@Jaze327 8 ай бұрын
Sounds ridiculous. I'll get to work.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 8 ай бұрын
@@Jaze327😁
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
You joke, but it turns out there's a total-kropki puzzle with a *single* dot (and no other clues or constraints) that has a unique solution. I wouldn't recommend trying to solve it though.
@Bokkie100k
@Bokkie100k 8 ай бұрын
@@thejuggler42 is it on yt?
@thechairguy
@thechairguy 8 ай бұрын
@@thejuggler42 extra funny thing: it doesn't even matter what color the dot is in that puzzle, both choices end up having the same unique solution apparently which is Wild
@AnnaChiaraBellini
@AnnaChiaraBellini 8 ай бұрын
This must be the most delightful sudoku I've solved in the last several months, or maybe ever. No crazy complicated disjoint rules, just pure elegance and wit from start to end. And, I must say, the way the instructions are written is just tiny endearing piece of kindness. I've enjoyed this immensely, thank you to Michael and to CtC for featuring it!
@Alex_Meadows
@Alex_Meadows 8 ай бұрын
I'm 1 second into the video (post opening credits) and have only got as far as reading the rules, and I'm already grinning like an idiot. This is astonishing!
@deniz5566
@deniz5566 8 ай бұрын
Same here, currently 2 am and I'm 5 mins into the video and I doubt I'll be able to resist watching the whole thing 😅
@nicka3697
@nicka3697 8 ай бұрын
The reason Cracking The Cryptic makes you very employable is because every day you turn up to find a new set of rules have to be followed.
@ServantOfSatania
@ServantOfSatania 8 ай бұрын
This was very approachable quick puzzle... after setting it for 80 minutes
@mum2woo
@mum2woo 8 ай бұрын
I love that Michael is actually the "me" in the corner for this puzzle. :)
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
Hah, I didn't even realize I'd fixed the song lyrics back to the original REM ones.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 8 ай бұрын
😁
@Anne_Mahoney
@Anne_Mahoney 8 ай бұрын
And very much in the spotlight.
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 8 ай бұрын
@@Anne_Mahoney 👆🏻🔦
@timch5227
@timch5227 8 ай бұрын
If you look even closer at it, the 3 replaces the e in Michael, which is the coolest detail ever in a sudoku
@istvanmagi473
@istvanmagi473 8 ай бұрын
Simon puts a 4 in a box that already has a 4. "It looks at first blush like it's going to clash". (Silence) "I need to just think about this. Hang on."
@sirgeremiah
@sirgeremiah 7 ай бұрын
He does this so often. His wizardry distracts him from the easy answers. LOL
@GeorgeBratley
@GeorgeBratley 6 ай бұрын
Michael Lefkowitz making Simon do sudoku in his sudoku puzzle is outrageous to be fair
@grahamania
@grahamania 8 ай бұрын
Not often, but once in a while a sudoku rule set can actually make me laugh. This is one of those times. I look forward to trying it. Kind comment.
@grahamania
@grahamania 8 ай бұрын
00:43:08 for me. That was a fantastic puzzle! From the reading of the rules to the entering of the final digit.
@robinbrown6530
@robinbrown6530 8 ай бұрын
I have a bone to pick with Sven. When I clicked Tick it told me solved the puzzle correct BUT it didnt tell me if I set the puzzle correctly! Now I am lost in a reality with an Puzzle that may or may not be set correctly. I am become despair. Jokes aside, love your software Sven. Keep up the grand work.
@brianarsuaga5008
@brianarsuaga5008 8 ай бұрын
I always say this, but this may just be the most elegant (and funny) sudoku on the channel so far.
@chocolateboy300
@chocolateboy300 2 ай бұрын
I finished in 122 minutes. This is one of the most beautiful sudokus I have ever done. I love the theming of this puzzle so much. It is brilliant the construction of this puzzle. I was lost for a while, before I started focusing on the horizontal german whisper and how it interacts with the vertical german whisper. Figuring out that they can't intersect was really fun to discover. I love how Michael's signature was used as a disambiguation for these german whispers. I was joyed when I saw that the 3 in the corner was on Michael's signature. From there, everything broke down, especially when I saw a 2 was a knight's move away from another 2 and that the 9 on my zipper saw a 9 on the horizontal german whisper. Absolutely brilliant. Great Puzzle!
@mstmar
@mstmar 8 ай бұрын
Simon went through most of my break in, but it was a bit hard to follow in the video. so here's my explanation of the break in which i thought was really beautiful. We need a few observations 1. if the thermo intersects the vertical whisper, then the have a knights move clash. this is done by looking at the digit above or below the digit in the intersection on both lines. at least 1 pair of them will be a knights move away. simon showed this during the video. 2. the thermo has to intersect the whisper. If it doesn't, then the thermo has to intersect with the 5 outside of the whisper. but in this case the 4 or 6 in the first cell of the whisper would clash with the 4 and 6 in the box. 3. if the 2 whispers cross then they have both a king and bishop clash. because there's only 1 possible whisper (ignoring reversing which doesn't change the point), then the cells next to the intersection in doth directions will be the same and cause a diagonal clash. 4. by 1 and 2 there is a knight clash. 5. by 3 and 4 there is no intersection between the 2 whispers. with 5. we know that the whispers go on the edges, and like simon pointed out, they can only go on the top and left or they would overlap the signature.
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
This is an excellent and concise proof.
@dussydelf
@dussydelf 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the clear proof, it helped me clear the mess of my assumptions and complete the puzzle.
@annaherbst8670
@annaherbst8670 6 ай бұрын
That's beautiful! I broke in by "deducing" that the german whispers couldn't clash because that would be aesthetically unpleasant lmao (i'm astonished that my silly mistake was not only correct but also let me skip such massive and wild breakins)
@ivandardi
@ivandardi 8 ай бұрын
It's funny when he says he can't do something "because of the Michael". Oh, we can't put a 5 there because of the Michael.
@arkb0t379
@arkb0t379 8 ай бұрын
Though I'm sure it violates the spirit of this puzzle, you can rule anti-bishop out by uniqueness from the beginning, since any anti-bishop puzzle would also qualify as anti-king.
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps the puzzle rating on LMD is the rating for the puzzle that remains, after it's constructed. I tried it, and I'd say 3 out of 5 seems fair. The thermo and the german whispers lines fill in very quickly. 🙂
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
You're right, it's really not a very interesting puzzle to solve, is it? Perhaps Simon will get better at setting with practice.
@markp7262
@markp7262 8 ай бұрын
15:23 finish. I started off with the first conclusion: any time you break a king's move, you break a bishop's move. Then I crossed two full German Whispers lines, and realized that you will always break a king's move. After, I crossed a full German Whisper with a full Thermometer and saw that you always break a knight's move. Since the two crossings will eliminate all chess move constraints, only one of the two pairs of lines can cross. The only way for the thermo and whisper to not cross is for the thermo to use the 5 in the whisper column. This forces the whisper line to use column 5 and the thermo row 1 (row 9 would hit the signature). This would place a duplicate 4 or 6 in box 2. Therefore, the thermo and whisper cross, the whispers don't cross and must run along row and column 1, with a 5 in the corner (all other rotations would hit the signature). Most of the line logic was resolved quite early in the puzzle, with only the arrow remaining, and so it turned into a basic king's move sudoku until the end, when the arrow needed to be identified. An excellent puzzle, and the first one I've ever set! (Please don't ask me for a follow-up... it may take a few years.) 🤣🤣🤣
@aquaticIntrovert
@aquaticIntrovert 8 ай бұрын
When it suddenly hit me that the defined nature of the order of digits on a max-length Whisper means that, if two of them overlap anywhere but on the 5, it will cause a clash by knight's and king's move, and that the spacing of consecutive digits on a max-length Whisper will always cause a clash with a max-length Thermometer that overlaps with it by knight's move, meaning the Whispers *have* to overlap at the corner NO MATTER which chess constraint is used, I literally stopped and said "Oh my god" out loud. That's not something that happens too often with a sudoku puzzle!
@bradmclean4988
@bradmclean4988 8 ай бұрын
So we are meant to fill the whole grid? It seemed liked we only needed 5 lines.
@davidenas
@davidenas 8 ай бұрын
This ruleset is both hilarious and amazingly cleaver. The signature is a great way to disambiguate the symmetry.
@Sasha-1313
@Sasha-1313 8 ай бұрын
I love this puzzle. I can’t even begin to do it, but I love it. It’s popcorn time for me!
@Gnarlf
@Gnarlf 8 ай бұрын
After reading the title, I was more thinking "What ludacris *Constructors, don't do this* suggestion, did Simon make recently?" However this one is even better. It is so clever and beautifully non-set. Kudos to you.
@wolframiaa
@wolframiaa 8 ай бұрын
Wonderful puzzle!! I absolutely laughed when I got to place the 3 in the corner 🎉
@unbatteristaacaso
@unbatteristaacaso 8 ай бұрын
@56:35: "Do I get to sing if I'm constructing?" The mischievous nod that followed made me laugh outloud... :)
@callumvlex7059
@callumvlex7059 8 ай бұрын
By my calculations, there are just over 10 million combinations of these rules, so I think Michael might be the single most prolific setter in history :P
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
That's why I made Simon figure it out for me. Couldn't be bothered.
@Poet13xRatedRKO
@Poet13xRatedRKO 8 ай бұрын
As a chess player, let me clear one thing: In sudoku, the anti-bishop rule includes anti-king since anti-rook is already standard in normal sudoku :) So from the start we only need to find out anti-knight or anti-king.
@sirenier
@sirenier 8 ай бұрын
i may be wrong but cant a king only move one square but a bishop can move multiple? so anti Bishop would mean no repeats on any diagonals
@Poet13xRatedRKO
@Poet13xRatedRKO 8 ай бұрын
@@sirenier you're right about that, but it's exactly what I mean. If a bishop would only be able to go one square, I would have written that king and bishop sudoku rule were the same. To find out that the bishop rule is gone is a nice side effect for the solver of this puzzle, but there is no need to do it.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 8 ай бұрын
​@@sirenier The point is that any puzzle that has an anti-bishop rule _automatically_ also obeys an anti-king rule. (Unless it's one of those weird ones where digits can repeat in rows/columns 😵‍💫) . But I think it's the case that you can't have a puzzle with a global anti-bishop rule, it isn't possible to fill all 81 cells without _any_ digit seeing itself on a diagonal. You can do it with the anti-bishop rule applying to all instances of _some_ digits, I think maybe up to about 6 can work, but not all 9.
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
Well spotted ;)
@eclectichoosier5474
@eclectichoosier5474 8 ай бұрын
I believe it's been proven that you can't have a 9-digit anti-bishop rule. I believe the anti-bishop rule only allows as many as six different digits to follow the rule. I could be wrong - it's been a long time. If that had been the case, though - a six-digit anti-bishop rule - this puzzle would have been absolutely brutal.
@laincoubert7236
@laincoubert7236 8 ай бұрын
they really say all ingenious is simple huh. this might be the most interesting sudoku i've ever solved, it's giving "i won the idgaf war wink-wink". this requires such a level of comfort with all the possible symmetries (of the digits and the line positions) that i can easily see how it seems hard without digging deeper... managed to crack it in 38 minutes, most of them spent proving all other green line combos don't work. the rest is so smooth and intuitive.
@laincoubert7236
@laincoubert7236 8 ай бұрын
someone replied to me wondering why think about the green line combos (and then deleted their comment? i can't see it unfortunately). well because every sudoku is a problem that requires deductions that build on other deductions and the limitations that are given to you, and finding one solution overall doesn't mean you proved other solutions don't exist. it's a lot like math, it requires that rigor. i also pretty much instantly thought german whispers go into r1 and c1 simply judging by the ruleset and its simplicity, so i decided to eliminate other possibilities first. and you do that eventually with anti-chess rules and it's just beautiful. going straight to the deduction based on experience and intuition would've bugged me.
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 8 ай бұрын
I've seen Simon solve many puzzles on this channel but I think this is the first one I've seen him set, it's a very impressive debut. (On a separate note, I imagine it would be pretty easy to solve this puzzle if you had the rules/lines but no digits in the grid, but that would be really interesting to see, too.)
@nalulumbay
@nalulumbay 8 ай бұрын
I haven't watched it yet, but goddamn, what a genius idea.
@F1r1at
@F1r1at 8 ай бұрын
Wow, that's someting. Took me 2 hours, but that was a great experience! First it started with: how could I even start this? Obviously there are a lot of possible places for those lines! Pretty soon it went to: Is there even one posibility to place those lines according to the rules? And then I totally forgot the '3 in the corner' rule, so I've wasted alot of time for nothing. But finally finishing it was awesome! The person who set those is a genius!
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 8 ай бұрын
I am in awe of how many amazing puzzles are showcased on this channel! And watching Simon’s total delight as he unravels their mysteries for our entertainment every day!! Over 575,000 of us show up regularly to bask in the magic!
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 8 ай бұрын
Perfectly written! This channel seizes to amaze me on a daily basis. We are blessed to be part of something immaculate every day!!
@longwaytotipperary
@longwaytotipperary 8 ай бұрын
@@davidrattner9 absolutely, my friend!
@franzelmagetower
@franzelmagetower 8 ай бұрын
Oh no. I was just experimenting to see how this ruleset worked. I made an initial hypothesis as to how it could possibly work. And then I did the next line. And the next one. And realized what the ruleset had to be in this most absurd of bifurcations. Found the last line. And kept going, knowing it would fall over at some point. And then 24:51 later...You solved the puzzle! The solution is correct! Whoopsie
@smylesg
@smylesg 8 ай бұрын
At 20:53, is it presumptuous for Simon to exclude the non-whisper vertical 5s from Michael's signature cells? It might be apparent later, but he doesn't really justify it here.
@SekGuy
@SekGuy 8 ай бұрын
yes, it is a mistake. it could well have fitted above.
@everorizon
@everorizon 8 ай бұрын
I was also thinking about it. But it actually is impossible given the horizontal whispers couldn't be in row 9 If we try and put the vertical whispers in column 9, the horizontal whispers have to share a 4 or a 6 as a common digit. And that would only be possible in r1c9, making r1c8 and r2c9 the same digit
@alexridley9947
@alexridley9947 8 ай бұрын
20:51 Do feel like this might not be a true deduction. Couldn’t the vertical German Whisper go in column 8 or 9 if the 5 went in the signature and the line took up the rest of the column?
@Krom5072
@Krom5072 8 ай бұрын
As Simon proves during the solve, the only possible overlap for vertical and horizontal German Whispers is if it happens in digit 5 and in a corner of the grid. They could overlap generally in other places, but as he shows it would make impossible all anti-chess constraints: the non-5 overlaps don't work at all with anti-king/bishop since the overlapped digit is always surrounded by the same two pairs of digits which then see each other diagonally; and anti-knight does not work because of the 1-9 thermometer geometry interacting with the highly prescriptive layout of the 8-length German Whispers. The signature rules out the bottom row/right-most column setup: a 5 in bottom-right corner, while allowing the line up top, disallows the line to the left, as the signature is 2 cells wide. In fact you can clearly see that it disallows any setup (of those where German Whispers frame the sides of the grid) except shown in the video. So generally it is a true statement about the grid. Simon here did however make this deduction a bit hastily considering that he didn't yet look at the geometry closely enough at this point. So I guess you are right. But it didn't really impact the solve; he generally forgot about his black cells deductions later on, and if he had not sort of automatically stuck for top-left corner as the overlap cell like he did during the solve, then by about 55:00 (upon ruling out all non-corner positions of the overlap) he would have used the signature to disambiguate which corner it is.
@tdbraun6837
@tdbraun6837 8 ай бұрын
So now take all the numbers out but leave the lines, and then solve it again... A creative meta-puzzle!
@Jonathan_Corwin
@Jonathan_Corwin 8 ай бұрын
They should get Mark to solve it
@RoderickEtheria
@RoderickEtheria 8 ай бұрын
You should really leave the given 3 as well.
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
It's really not a very interesting puzzle to solve. Oh well, perhaps Simon will get better at setting sudokus with more practice.
@MWSin1
@MWSin1 7 ай бұрын
The key moment for me was that any configuration that fulfills anti-bishop + sudoku also fulfills anti-king, so there's no need to look for anti-bishop at all.
@virtuous-sloth
@virtuous-sloth 8 ай бұрын
The lengths Simon goes to to avoid simply positing a complete vertical German whispers in the grid at the same time as having posited a horizontal one is amazing since doing so would quickly convince someone that the overlap points could only be possible within one diagonal line on either side of the main diagonal from NW to SE... then subsequently finding a very short list of possible options.
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 8 ай бұрын
Why not also from SW to NE, if one of the GW lines is flipped?
@virtuous-sloth
@virtuous-sloth 8 ай бұрын
@@RichSmith77 You are right. I think when I posted that it was soon after watching Simon reason about the 5 only working in the NW and not NE (and SW by symmetry and SE more directly all dues to the signature) so in my head I eliminating the NE and SW possibility.
@Paolo_De_Leva
@Paolo_De_Leva 8 ай бұрын
Simon appears to be always reluctant to use placeholders, which allow you to solve ingoring the difference between *N* and *10-N,* and ignoring the orientation of your lines... However, in this case this technique was quite tricky to apply, because you needed to allow for a double transformation: a "complementation" (y = 10 - x) and a rotation/reflection. I guess Richard was able to use it. See my separate comment for details.
@OneInSixty
@OneInSixty 8 ай бұрын
There is no 9x9 sudoku with an anti-bishop (or anti-queen) constraint. You can get CLOSE to one, but there's no way to combine nine different 9-solutions of the N-queens-problem to cover the full grid.
@Orenotter
@Orenotter 8 ай бұрын
That puzzle filled me with elation Despite my repeated frustration. So here I'm confessing Perhaps it's a blessing The setter just went on holiday. Hunh. It rhymed in American.
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
🤣
@joelstevens5670
@joelstevens5670 8 ай бұрын
Your limerick had me confused, A result of the last line you used, But once I realised, That the line was disguised, Well, it left me extremely amused. For someone like myself that appreciates wordplay, that was brilliant!! Thanks for your continued limerick writing efforts, I always enjoy seeing what you’ve come up with. 😊
@Mennoo_
@Mennoo_ 8 ай бұрын
I laughed too hard when reading those rules. Especially the 3 in the corner got me xD But it turned out that the 3 in the corner actually was very powerful in the remainder of the 'solve' . But now I'm wondering, Does the puzzle with all clues still solve uniquely without that 3 in the corner? I might as well start solving the puzzle again xD. Well, testsolving and repeating testsolves is part of a setter's job, so I signed up for this I guess
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
Spoiler: the finished puzzle with the lines on it is possible to solve without knowing there's a 3 in the corner, but Setters Day Off would not be possible to know how to set correctly without it.
@Mennoo_
@Mennoo_ 8 ай бұрын
@@thejuggler42 Haha good to know. So what that basically means is there might be other other alternatives for the placement of the described clues and global constraints which lead to a unique, solvable sudoku, but there is only one configuration where that leads to a solution with a 3 in the corner :P That's quite funny actually
@adipy8912
@adipy8912 8 ай бұрын
Too bad you didn't got told to open the link live. I so wanted to see your first reaction. At least it was a beautiful puzzle as always
@HalfBakedLunatic
@HalfBakedLunatic 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely stunning ... I quickly got the restrictions on the German Whisper lines and came to the same conclusion with the 5 in the top corner, and pretty much giggled at every move since it's just so damn clever.
@TurquoizeGoldscraper
@TurquoizeGoldscraper 8 ай бұрын
I saw the rules and thought, I'm just going to watch Simon do it. I was not disappointed.
@Gonzalo_Garcia_
@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 8 ай бұрын
21:08 for me. What a wonderful puzzle!! That ruleset is one of the greatest ideas I've seen in a while, kudos to the setter for coming up with it.
@BobDylan530
@BobDylan530 8 ай бұрын
Not a hugely important detail, but you can prove that anti-bishop is incorrect a bit sooner in the puzzle - as soon as you place the 3 in the corner, in fact - by looking at where 3 would go in box 1 if there was an anti-bishop constraint
@Tepalus
@Tepalus 8 ай бұрын
Imagine this is your inteoduction to variaty sudoku and the very first thing you have to do is building you own sudoku.🎉
@HunterJE
@HunterJE 8 ай бұрын
1:07:07 One of these days I will learn never to think I know what Simon is going to say after a "because..."
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 8 ай бұрын
For someone who takes every opportunity to put colour into his grid, it sure hampers his scanning.
@ElizabethRoss-uj8rl
@ElizabethRoss-uj8rl 8 ай бұрын
The big manual Remington typewriter I learned to type on in 1958 didn't have a number pad. Now I have a top-of-the-line laptop computer, and it doesn't have a number pad either. Never slowed me down. Go, Simon!
@thespanishinquisition4078
@thespanishinquisition4078 8 ай бұрын
I've almost always had numpads (born in 95) but I learned how to type on the regular keyboard and the upper numbers always did feel like the most natural ones so I just never bothered learning how to type fast on a numpad. Never slowed me down either. Honestly, I have no idea why they even bother putting it there.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 8 ай бұрын
@@thespanishinquisition4078 it CAN make calculations faster, particulary for spreadsheets. (I had a spreadsheet of telephone numbers and it was a pain doing it on a laptop with no number pad
@Sanulay
@Sanulay 8 ай бұрын
The ruleset reminds me of a sudoku supposedly made by a colorblind setter in which all the "colored" lines were grey. I checked that it was actually made by the same person.
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
@jokerServerDE
@jokerServerDE 8 ай бұрын
It's the first ctc sodoku that captivated me to try and solve it myself. Really liked the German whispers intersection thinking, but got stuck not noticing the knights move due to the thermo
@markwright6685
@markwright6685 8 ай бұрын
Wow. Surprised myself with that one. 54:35. The longest part was working out where the German whisper lines went, then it all fell into place. Amazing that such an idea can actually work. Michael you are a genius.
@Kylo99
@Kylo99 8 ай бұрын
Simon failed. He set the puzzle, fulfilled the rules and instead of stoping he solved it :( he was jest supposed to set it :D
@olleicua
@olleicua 8 ай бұрын
I'm guessing that they came up with the idea of a puzzle with unique constraints like this and then went from there. spoiler: .. .. .. Another great video. I will say that the possibility you spent most of the video ruling out never occurred to me so I sort of cheated but came up with the same solution..
@LiquorStoreJon
@LiquorStoreJon 8 ай бұрын
Oh What a fun bunch of rules! Very creative with the copy, too!
@adamheywood113
@adamheywood113 8 ай бұрын
The absolute audacity of this man
@douglasmagowan2709
@douglasmagowan2709 8 ай бұрын
I didn't think that this one was particularly hard. It was obvious to me where to start. First time for everything.
@10prozenthimmel
@10prozenthimmel 8 ай бұрын
Love it. 49:46 - isn’t it easier to see that the Thermo starting in R1C1 would have to have a 7 in box 3, and a Thermo starting in R8 c9 would have a 5 in box 8.
@brachypelmasmith
@brachypelmasmith 8 ай бұрын
amazing ruleset
@Kinada
@Kinada 8 ай бұрын
I made this. In just under 40 min too. Very interesting idea for a puzzle.
@andybenedict9633
@andybenedict9633 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely brilliant puzzle. Felt absolutely impossible, then spot the break-in, then the whole thing just sort of unfolds. My 38:47 feels like both a really fast and really slow time somehow. Take a bow Michael :) I think this about sums it up: "The process was wonderfully beautiful. It was extraordinarily elaborate but also simple and elegant. It was like a piece of self-opening origami, or a rosebud blooming into a rose in just a few seconds." - Mostly Harmless by Douglas Adams
@bphillips907
@bphillips907 8 ай бұрын
The amount of work the indeterminate anti-chess requirement in this instruction set (I refuse to call it a rule set) did to move the solve forward was astounding.
@xyzzyx7812
@xyzzyx7812 8 ай бұрын
Suggest retitling this: Sudoku with NO digits
@RichSmith77
@RichSmith77 8 ай бұрын
I wouldn't recommend misreading the rules as requiring no 3 in the corner. It makes the first task of placing the german whispers and thermo a lot harder (but not impossible), but then ultimately leads to multiple possible solutions.
@KennethBouman
@KennethBouman 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant chapter title, “let’s get setting!” 😂
@KeiFlox
@KeiFlox 8 ай бұрын
What a brilliant, charming idea for a puzzle. Continually blown away by the creativity people put into setting puzzles.
@davidrattner9
@davidrattner9 8 ай бұрын
Just again remarkable what setters can come up with for this community. Truly remarkable how nearly 600,000 can come together to see absolute magic on a daily basis and someone solve that magic with such happiness and love!!
@emilywilliams3237
@emilywilliams3237 8 ай бұрын
This was fascinating. Mesmerizing. I agree, Simon, this seemed harder than three star puzzles have seemed to me in the past (all from a watching perspective, I assure you). Thank you for making the effort to rigorously prove the various interactions, because it helped me understand the general outlines as well as the specifics. I will be a better solver because of watching this!
@ericpraline1302
@ericpraline1302 8 ай бұрын
I've never seen myself as a setter and having solved this I still don't see myself as a setter. This does not seem plausible at the start and yet it is so very clever stuff, well done.
@stangerrits6712
@stangerrits6712 8 ай бұрын
21:06 Sure the vertical german whisper can go in column 8 or 9, with the 5 in row 9 on the setter’s autograph?
@asbjrnfossmo1589
@asbjrnfossmo1589 8 ай бұрын
Solved in 36:49 with no hints from video.
@stumbling
@stumbling 8 ай бұрын
Wow! A piece of Sudoku gold. I stayed up incredibly late setting this one but I really wanted to get it done in one sitting.
@stevenwojtysiak6392
@stevenwojtysiak6392 8 ай бұрын
@ 55:32 Why can the 5 not be in the bottom right corner? the 5 is not part of the whisper line so it doesn't interact with the signature? Maybe that gets explained later. Edit: Never mind, the vertical line would be ok, but the horizontal line would be on the signature. I get it now.
@daleomiller
@daleomiller 8 ай бұрын
Because the horizontal whisper would overlap Michael.
@ShyGuy1347
@ShyGuy1347 7 ай бұрын
This puzzle had me grinning throughout the entirety of the solve. I did it in 25 minutes, and 15 of those was staring blankly as I tried to work out German whispers orientations.
@nakorbluerider
@nakorbluerider 8 ай бұрын
A clever way to think of the whispers crossing at the start is to use a little bit of nonogram logic - you're using 8 out of 9 cells in a row in a fixed order, so there's only 1 cell of wiggle room. This means the first two digits 49 are *always* going to share a box. The same goes for the middle pair 82, and the same again for the final pair 16. This means the whisper lines could never overlap on any of those digits 49_82_16, because those digits would always need to have their neighbour in the same box both vertically and horizontally. (For example if the lines intersected at a 6, then there would be two 4's in the box with the 6 intersection, one vertically and one horizontally from the 6.) This leaves only 7 and 3 as possible crossings mid-line, as 7 can share a box with either 82 or 16, and 3 can share a box with either 49 or 82. Of course, once you get the generalized logic Simon came up with, which really is quite incredible, all that is a bit unnecessary, but I thought it was an interesting sort of inherent restriction on these 8 cell whispers crossing.
@Clocksmith-s9w
@Clocksmith-s9w 8 ай бұрын
4:00 I'm fairly certain that happiness is measured in units of Joy. Nausea is measured in units of Garn, named after the astronaut Jake Garn who frequently got sick during NASA tests. Beauty is measured in milliHelens after Helen of Troy; one milliHelen is the amount of beauty required to launch one ship.
@Coldheart322
@Coldheart322 8 ай бұрын
"I want 7 red perpendicular lines, 4 in blue ink, 3 in green ink..." If anyone gets that reference, hats off to the expert ;-)
@joethornton5321
@joethornton5321 8 ай бұрын
26:51 for me. Video length scared me at first. Now it terrifies me 'cause I'm wondering if I made some crucial mistake and got lucky.
@Lord_Volkner
@Lord_Volkner 8 ай бұрын
When I read the rules I thought, 'well, I'll never solve that' but it ended up being pretty easy. I solved it in less than half an hour.
@Kaspian1828
@Kaspian1828 8 ай бұрын
46 minutes! The first time beat the time in the video by a significant margin.
@jonathansperry7974
@jonathansperry7974 8 ай бұрын
68 minutes. It was so much fun after I figured out what was going on. The intersecting whisper lines made for a quick break-in, but the chess logic tripped me up. At first, I thought I had to accommodate all of the chess constraints. When I realized that the intersecting whisper and thermo lines ruled out the anti-knights move constraint, and that I had to preserve at least one of the others (either anti-bishop or anti-king), then it filled in rather quickly.
@Manigo1743
@Manigo1743 8 ай бұрын
Why did you solve it? The puzzle was only to set it.
@MonkeyMonkeyJoeJoe
@MonkeyMonkeyJoeJoe 8 ай бұрын
Wait a minute, we made the same puzzle - what are the odds?!
@thechairguy
@thechairguy 8 ай бұрын
i had the privilege of testing this puzzle and the ruleset absolutely floored me when i saw it, the fact that it solved uniquely was sick. colossal props to the setter for somehow imagining this, and the signature was the cherry on top
@CauchyIntegralFormula
@CauchyIntegralFormula 7 ай бұрын
26m07s. This was adorable! I'm glad I caught the double whisper logic so early, I could imagine that being a huge sticking point otherwise
@shellmichael9665
@shellmichael9665 8 ай бұрын
I’m 21 minutes into the video and Simon blacked out the entirety of columns 8 & 9 for the vertical German whispers because of Michael’s signature at the bottom. But couldn’t the GW line occupy c8r1-8 or c9r1-8 and still obey the rule? The GW line wouldn’t be in the cells with the signature. Maybe I should shut up and keep watching but I’m hoping this gets acknowledged. If not, Simon made some faulty logic and gets lucky.
@brenthooton3412
@brenthooton3412 8 ай бұрын
That ruleset is absolutely glorious and had me falling off my chair in laughter.
@rohitraghunathan
@rohitraghunathan 8 ай бұрын
I bet Michael started singing when he realized what the 3 in the corner did for the puzzle
@thejuggler42
@thejuggler42 8 ай бұрын
It is a very nice 3, isn't it?
@Millenassang
@Millenassang 8 ай бұрын
One of the most interesting puzzles ever. The logic and combinations possible being rules out successively if absolutely astonishing. The signature thing is a very funny touch👌
@niyazali7983
@niyazali7983 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant, ludicrous puzzle... Side note: I've solved it and I still don't understand: how on earth does this have a unique solution???🤣 We need more of this sort of puzzle...
@dinane
@dinane 7 ай бұрын
I didn’t know I could set puzzles! 😅😂 This was fun. I had to clear out wild coloring multiple times because I kept confusing myself.
@annaherbst8670
@annaherbst8670 6 ай бұрын
Turns out that if you read the rules wrong and assume that German Whispers lines cannot overlap (they wouldnt be two straight lines then, would they?) it lets you skip the entire first half of the solve! I was tabbing over for help and wondering what took simon so long to put the 5 in the corner and then i was like wait a minute...
@Bogdanko93
@Bogdanko93 4 ай бұрын
20:50 This is a logical mistake. The vertical whisper lines could, in theory, fit into column 8 or 9 because its length is 8 (5 is not part of the whisper line) on top of the signature
@siddharth_desai
@siddharth_desai 7 ай бұрын
If you start the timer AFTER Simon finishes SETTING the puzzle, it's quite a short solve actually
@hom-sha-bom
@hom-sha-bom 8 ай бұрын
Picking an anti chess rule seems weird to me. If it's not anti-Knight then it has to be anti king or anti bishop. But an anti bishop rule has to also have an anti king rule. But an soon as you satisfy the anti king rule, you no longer have to care about an anti bishop rule.
@andrewcook4873
@andrewcook4873 8 ай бұрын
Great puzzle! I thought this was easy. But it turns out I made an unwarranted assumption that just happened to be true, the same thing that Simon spent most of the video proving 😅.
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