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[@angkihermawan3420]

I was in China and my daughter got sick. Being foreigner visitor, I was helped by our guest to visit a Doctor in a small simple clinics. She attended in a second, checked and prescribed a bunch of medication. Cost us ¥ 15 all in all and in 2 days my daughter got well. Amazing system.

[@smddsi]

In France hospital begin to write on a wall of fame the name of people who waited more than 10 hours in the urgency corridor of hospital as this delay begin to be the standard.

[@hsheuw]

Judging by your name.. you are a Chinese Indonesian, right..? Will you readily see yourself as a patriotic overseas Chinese (爱国华侨） and Sons and daughters of Chinese civilization (中华儿女） ?

[@REDSUN-8]

@@hsheuw ???

[@weizhang2834]

@@hsheuw 他在说他的实际经历，米国华人野种开始挖人家的祖宗八代，丑陋的米国华人昭然若揭

[@Pqj613]

hehe I dont know where did you do that, but basically I have paid for number to get, paid for doctor's bla bla bla paper and paid for medications which I only needed a couple of pills but they said they only have big box and I had to buy that one for 600 kuai , it's 100$ not including other bills, yeah great system.

[@kennedy6618]

I was in the Yellow Mountain Anhui province. I twisted my ankle on the hiking and I went to the hospital to check my ankle. X-ray, consultation and I was asked if I want Chinese traditional medicine or Western medicine? For homeopathic treatment, I paid 83 Y including the medicine and taping. I had overseas coverage but for $12.00 dollar, it doesn't worth the paperwork. Everything was done in a hour. If this was in America it may cost $500 to $700 and waiting for hours.

[@OP-mz3hr]

You had homeopathic remedies and treatment? They have that ?

[@kennedy6618]

@@OP-mz3hr Does cars in your country have square or rounded wheel?

[@weizhang2834]

As a Chinese grew up in China, seeing the doctor was as always efficient as your experience

[@standoctor]

I am a western trained doctor and I can assure you traditional Chinese medicine is Not homeopathic medicine as we know it in the West. The traditional Chinese medicine doctor had to train for 6years followed by specialist training just like western medicine. In the West a homeopathic medic have no such training. TCM includes diagnostic technique, specialized training in massage and manipulation, acupuncture and Chinese herbs that has thousand year's history and knowledge. It a 9:18 lso requires stringent testing, research and certification at university level unlike in the West

[@kennedy6618]

@@standoctor A frog in well see a flat world! 😂 70 year ago in America, we didn't recognize acupuncture, pressure points, herbal medicine and Qi treatment. If you can afford to get out from the well and make trip over and see it for yourself. I am surprised to know a doctor like yourself having a narrow vision and constrained knowledge!

[@sktan3743]

A government devoted to serve its people in health care can be seen from how affordable the transport system is throughout China. One has to be mindful China until recently has the world largest population at around 14 billion. China was very poor prior to 1978, but has since grow the economy to be the world no 1 by purchasing power parity definition. When the sick goes to hospital, it is odd that he should be made to wait for an appointment to see a doctor. The necessary delay to be diagnosed and treated by a doctor seems to be the standard process in UK and US. The most affordable cost and the readily convenience of seeing a doctor without undue delay speaks volume about China hospitals caring and in treating patients. It is an unforgivable shortcomings for hospitals to keep patients waiting for treatment for weeks on end at sky high prices.

[@MarvinChenFantasy]

Doctors don't earn that much in China, whose workload is big, can be around 80 appointments each working day in a busy hospital. It's a very dedicated job. China gov monitors the medicine purchase and represent hospitals to bargin with the medicine companies for a better price. Some people pay for the cost, so the patients don't have to.

[@胡]

The problem of Chinese medical system is that doctors and nurses aren’t compensated well enough to justify the quality of service the system provides.

[@georgewong1837]

It is service, not money grabbing.

[@ChuanTeh]

The people come first in china, they believe unproductive people is bad for the country economy grown

[@SiberiusRises]

I was afraid at first, now I would not hesitate to go to a hospital in China. Affordable, accessible, clean and efficient.

[@cherjohn2118]

Afraid of what??? That the hospital would harvest your organs?

[@drzhanga]

an in general they are wayyyyyy more experienced than those in the US at the same pay grade (relatively speaking). considering the lowest ranked intern doctors see more patient in a day than those in the US who does in a year. My mom struggled to get her knee fixed for over 7 years in Los Angeles (The US doctors simply couldn't find the cause of pains), and managed to get it done in less than 15 days in Guangzhou China. The doctors almost immediately knew what was the problem after seeing a couple simple x-ray and blood tests. oh, and the test results come out same day (2 hours to be exact, in contrast to 2 weeks later in the US)

[@fredm.7145]

In the U.S. your doctor examines you request any test, and subscribes treatments. That request goes to the insurance company who reviews it and on many occasions will decline the request. You either pay out of pocket or suffer the consequences of not having the biopsy, colonoscopy, endoscopy, medication. You file a lawsuit. They drag it out until your dead. The people declining treatment are not doctors.

[@drzhanga]

exactly how it feels like, seems like the US doctors are only trying to give you a slow death, instead of trying to fix you

[@ericlabanowski55]

I have many martial art friends in china . Most things people hear is untrue. I never had any problems when I lived in China .

[@trevornorman7563]

i turn up at a Chinese hospital at 9am was seen got my tablets etc and was having dinner with my sister-in law by 12.30 in the UK this would have taken weeks

[@rogerstarkey5390]

NO

[@George-k6o9t]

@@rogerstarkey5390 I'll see your "No" and raise your "No" to my two "Nos".

[@leeway777]

@@rogerstarkey5390, that's correct, not weeks. There isn't a walk-in service in the UK. You will be kicked out immediately.

[@thewiseone7286]

Harvey is telling the truth. I was in China for a few months, ran out of medication and wanted to see a doctor. I got to the hospital, it was clean, efficient, and friendly. I saw the doctor within a hour and got may medication refilled. That was a nice experience indeed.

[@pbworld7858]

That part about phoning at exactly 8am in the UK is so true. This is crazy. I remember the days when you could just go to your GP and see them within an hour. Then you needed to make an appointment. Then you need to make one several days in advance. Then the wait got longer. Then you couldn't even see them during covid. And don't get me started on the wait needed to see a specialist in a hospital - from weeks to months!

[@FloraLok-r2y]

In UK by the time you could see your GP, you probably die.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

Well said about the 8 AM phoning, as if it is somehow a privileged lottery to do so.

[@pbworld7858]

@@FloraLok-r2y That's what I heard one of the patients say to the receptionist at the GP once!!!!

[@SOPPI_srn]

GPs are so bad these days. We really need free market competition for governments. 😓

[@xingyu1386]

Yes! When did the change happen? In the last two years, both my partner and i got sick quite a few times, and it was always nerve wracking to secure an appointment. We literally started panicking the night before every time worrying we could have missed the morning window to call in. We thought it was only our GP and have been thinking to switch our GP practice. But now i know it seems everywhere is the same. And the reception always ask so many private questioning relating to 'the nature of my call' (in their words). The whole process just left me feel so undignified before even being seen by anyone.

[@foobar5477]

bought a pair of glasses in china, Titianum, fraction of the price, they did eye exam and produced the pair of glasses in 30 minutes.Their Robotic machine produced it like pizza hut produces pizza. Still wearing the glass. Sturdy frame

[@crosslink1493]

You can get that service in the USA but it's expensive. Normal time on getting glasses in the USA is about a week after exam to determine your prescription.

[@edpell437]

I had an MRI done in China paid out of pocket. Cost $70. Wait time one hour.

[@qiaoningwang3001]

so true

[@63saruman]

Every country has a saint patron/ess: the US's patron is 'money/greed'.

[@cedardrive4599]

I think that Americans are liars, cheaters, robbers and murderers.

[@kr8972]

Only foreigners who have never been to Mainland China or Mainland Chinese who have never been abroad would think China has a bad health care system. Based on my own experience, Chinese health care system is the best or at least one of the top ones in the whole world.

[@rickrick2010]

I'm a Shanghai local living in Australia atm, in 2018 we tripped back to Shanghai when my 3yo daughter got type A flu, she was born in Australia so we don't have any medicare in Shanghai. The nurse checked my daughter's temperature right in reception, issued a medical record booklet and booked me instantly to see a doctor, in about two hours we got full report and medicine that costs about 200rmb, even cheaper than what we would have to pay in Australia. When I was a kid in Shanghai the system was not this good, the greatest thing about the public health system is that it keeps improving over the years in a fast speed.

[@joshhhh8858]

国外赚钱国内花😂

[@colombard140]

❤❤❤❤ When I was in the UK many years ago, abortion under the NHS is free but the waiting time for an abortion is 2 years ! 😂😂😂

[@kpopbillionaire]

Are you serious? Who are those who booked appointment for 6 months to 2 years?

[@LW78321]

Seriously 😱 that's terrible...

[@bbharatillusion4574]

😂😂😂You could be a grandma before the abortion is approved

[@denniswoo9334]

By that time, you baby may walk on his own already.😂.

[@lupus7194]

I had two occasions to see a doctor when I was in Chengdu last year. For example, a lesion on my forearm that I had brought with me from Australia got worse. 10 minutes after I arrived at the hospital, I saw a skin specialist who prescribed a treatment which worked, all at minimal cost (which I can't remember, it was that insignificant). On the other occasion, at a cost of RMB48, I saw the doctor twice, had blood and x-ray tests and finally, treatment by a nurse, all done in the space of a couple of hours in a morning. That particular hospital did seem a bit old but certainly it was clean and efficient. The system seems to operate very similarly to the hospital based public system here in Australia but without the long waiting times for non urgent cases. They don't seem to do the triaging of patients to nearly the same extent as our hospitals do.

[@marcoszeto8230]

"service the people "

[@aijieli8836]

I am an ED nurse in a public hospital in Australia so I can tell you that the waiting time in your case may be at least 4 hours in ED and may be 6 hours to see a specialist. I was in China in June and got skin rash and swelling following mosquito bites and hot weather, I arrived at the Dermatologists office on the 6th floor of a local hospital at lunch time, I left the hospital in half hour: waited for the doctor to come back from lunch, got seen and checked, diagnosed, then went down to the ground floor, the staff already had my medication in the basket. The prescribed treatment worked very well. Harvey is right, China is streamlining the healthcare efficient for 1.4 b people

[@Darkmatter321]

This is specially impressive when you remember that China's population is 1.4 Billion

[@antoniobabb4569]

China has always been about medical concoctions especially ginger or ginseng

[@weizhang2834]

Incredible

[@worldview2888]

Dear Harvey - i sincerely want to THANK you for excellent content. I want you to know that i will be entering into partnership with a China hospital soon. I hope that all will be well for me. (as i help many children patients globally.)

[@Harveyinchina]

Wow, best of luck to you 😁

[@YunieKittie]

I wanted to share my experience with the healthcare system in China, particularly regarding my treatment for gastro issues. For context, I had been waiting for 18 months for a microscopy appointment through the UK NHS. Frustrated with the long wait, I considered going private. However, I was quoted a total of £1,020 before even starting treatment-£160 for a consultation and £860 for the microscopy. In search of alternatives, I decided to visit one of the best gastro hospitals in Shenzhen, China. As a foreigner, I was able to book an appointment online and was seen within a week. The efficiency of the system was remarkable: I had my microscopy and blood tests done on the same day. A week later, I underwent minor stomach surgery. The entire process, including surgery, medicine, and all other associated costs, amounted to just under £100 as a UK citizen. I believe locals pay even less due to their health insurance coverage. The hospital itself was incredibly modern, clean, and efficient, providing an experience that far exceeded my expectations.

[@squashdevicer]

Here in Canada, my city (a capital city by the way), just to refill my prescription, I need to make an appointment with my doctor which can take up to 3 weeks, have a few minutes chat about the prescription I need renewed, then the clinic will fax the prescription over to the pharmacy before I can get my meds.

[@Harveyinchina]

It’s a broken system. Here, some prescription meds can be renewed much easier

[@squashdevicer]

@@Harveyinchina It is getting worse every year. So many people have no access to a family doctor, and Canada is supposed to be a first world country.

[@jinlingliang4385]

所有民主国家的制度都一样的，预约之后，好长时间，这样的制度，有钱可以享受贵的医疗，而平民百姓只能将身体健康拖着疲惫的身体状况，中国医院，无论你怎样，医生，护士，教授他们非常专业的，名人和人才的医生非常多，他们真是医者父母心的人，非常专业的，就算预约好快到，当天上午就可以完成的，又大，干净，卫生等，

[@inkbold8511]

Same in the U.S. too, appointments are always 2+ weeks out, prescription takes another day to get at a pharmacy.

[@Anomalyy666]

All of asia is ahead in healthcare not just china compared to west.

[@justgado2772]

I went to see my Shanghai doctor, I went in immediately then my bro who accompanied me just asked if the doctor can prescribe him allergy medicine since it bothered him for 2 days already. The doctor just check him for a while and prescribed him an allergy medicine. When we payed the expense, my doctor bill was ¥10. The medication that my bro got? Cost 0,8 yuan. I mean wtf, I never buy allergy medicine that cheap! Did it worked if you asked, yes it was.

[@belbahadurg1]

I am applying for a 5-year China Travel pass for HK and Macao permanent residents of non-Chinese people. I can go to China and see a doctor soon, shop for groceries, and return to HK on the same day.

[@yoingen]

Twenty years ago, when I was still in high school, I paid twenty or thirty yuan in insurance premiums every year. I was in a car accident and my calf was broken. It cost a total of 20,000 yuan, and the insurance reimbursed 17,000 yuan. Because I use a stent imported from abroad, I need to pay for it at my own expense. This is very satisfying to me.

[@trevornorman7563]

Harvey where you surprised how good and cheap health care is in China. only used it once and compared to the NHS it was great

[@clumsytriangle2436]

I've been living in China since 2013. Mostly in Shanghai, but I've also lived in Nanjing and Nantong. I've had to use hospital services in all 3 cities and I have zero complaints. Even with language barriers, the service was efficient and effective. My latest hospital experiences were through both a public and a private international hospital in Shanghai this year and everything was done through my phone with excellent communication and record keeping, and I'm glad to say I 'lived to tell the tale' lol. TBH, I've never felt any apprehension about receiving excellent treatment while living in China.

[@PakistanIcecream000]

My experience with the GP practice in London was so bad, I switched to another one in another borough this week.

[@biggychaka6780]

China understands that it has to have a strong social foundation for its people to achieve high levels of development. In US, healthcare or medical services is treated as a favor for those who can afford it like owning a car. Even people with medical insurance are discouraged from using medical services for preventive care which is critical to achieve better healthcare outcomes, So health insurance is mostly used to treat diseases rather than preventing or identifying conditions before they gets worse. It not uncommon to see people using Urgent care as a form of primary care so that they don't have wait for a long time to see a Doc..

[@kaiki8490]

It took me six hours to see a doctor in the emergency room here in my free democracy. We are just projecting our experience on China

[@hongqi5734]

In Canada, one needs to wait 3 months to get an appointment to see a specialist.

[@georgewong1837]

My wife had a hip replacement recently. I paid only parking fees. Canadian medical services are not perfect but quite good as compared to the US and UK.

[@MichaelZhuang]

I was in Shanghai last month and decided to clean my teeth. Here in the US, to do teech cleaning, one must book weeks in advance and can cost up to $200. In Shanghai, I was able to book a same day appointment and it costed a grand total of $6. There I also did an teech X-Ray for free - that would be hundreds of $$$ in the US as well - they found a few holes in my teech. I did two fillings for $40 each. Last year my GF was with me in China, she got a cold and we decided to try out Chinese medicine. So we went to a traditional Chinese herbal medicine pharmacy. There was a doctor there seeing patients. We didn't have to wait, we saw him right away. After looking at my GF's tongue, and feeling her pulses, he prescribed some herbs that costed about $20. (He probably have over-prescribed since we are from Germany and can afford more.) After drinking nasty herbal soup for a day, my GF got well.

[@corvo6568]

It is normal for Chinese medicine practitioners to prescribe a lot of medicine. Compared with Western medicine, Chinese medicine is more effective but takes longer to take effect, so the dosage is larger.

[@marcusclarkson5520]

America has a lot of things to learn from China, either China has.

[@George-k6o9t]

The U.S. is too arrogant and proud to want to learn from anyone, least of all, a "Chinese" and worse of all, a "Commie" at that.

[@Weiningc66]

The medical here in the USA charge how ever they feel like. Special dental. I mean can you really tell you doctor you don’t want this service. I have full dental coverage, and it is still $180 per visit.😢

[@DonGivani]

In the Netherlands each treatment has a fixed dental code,with a price tag on it. Maybe you could talk with politicians in your area to introduce these fixed codes

[@Weiningc66]

@@DonGivani Thanks, they do. And I talk with insurance companies that claim they completely cover that area of dental, they say they use code that is not covered by insurance, I just cannot just say that I don't want to that part of the treatment. I have no way of know if it is important or not. They normally don't even have it at when they bill to the insurance.

[@ephye343]

once i got a toothache when i was in uk, and i experience the low speed form the public NHS system, free treatment were available with a two-week long queue where in China i could sort out problem in two hours

[@jamesreelick6227]

I have lived in Vietnam for the past 13 years. The health care here is the best from stiches, health check up to tooth impants. Caring profesinals.

[@林北就是唱秋]

In China, it's healthy care, social wealth. In the west, it's business, especially usa.

[@occadude2003]

In Chinese hospital, you can get walk-in service without days or weeks appointment before hand when compared with the US. Here in the US the medical insurance is exorbitant and the medicine price is like rip-off. My wisdom teeth removal costed $2,000 and the insurance covered 90% after hundreds of dollars insurance paid each month.

[@inkbold8511]

I feel like US insurances are all fake, it doesn’t reduce any cost other than allowing hospitals to charge you at their regular rate vs 10000% mark up rates for non-insured.

[@georgewong1837]

Go to Malaysia for holiday...$2,000 will have your wisdom tooth removed, paid for your hotel stay and enjoy two weeks of delicious street food. You still have enough money to pay for your taxi fare and insane tips home from the airport.

[@thecomment9489]

​@@georgewong1837 lol no. Only the plane tickets would cost that much.

[@dontlistenme]

shit. it is not rapid even in case of emergency

[@RalphUsaTr]

What I can say is that while they are investing in schools and hospitals we are investing in Afghanistan Iraq Syria Ukraine and Israel no money left for the schools, ups sorry we have money for the schools part of it from the lottery sale but TRILLIONS DOLLARS goes for the war game and in God we trust.

[@tongfattho6913]

Singapore former PM and founding father Lee Kuan Yew had had personal experience of UK NHS SYSTEM when he was an undergrad at Cambridge. He was not a fan of it. When he became Singapore PM, he made sure that Singapore did not just inherit the system left behind by its former colonial master. These are recorded in his memoir.

[@crosslink1493]

Medical in the USA has "gone digital" but its still in a learning curve phase, and there are multiple systems used by different medical groups and doctors. My GP belongs to a large group that does referrals and comingles medical records so any doctor in the group can access your medical history. The digital system is also used to send medication prescriptions to pharmacies so no paper system. Yeah, if you don't have medical insurance the costs can be outrageous, and medical insurance is best purchased through a group like your employment; buying an individual policy is crazy expensive, but still cheaper than going without insurance. The whole insurance system and medical costs in general are very 'murky', very 'gray', so its hard to figure out what actual costs of services are. Dental insurance is a separate service and only covers the most basic of services, but these days dentists are starting to turn into salesmen selling added services like teeth whitening, crowns, veeners, braces, tooth replacements, etc. for more income.

[@MarvinChenFantasy]

China travel is easier now, I'm afraid medical trip to China will be popular some day.

[@marcoszeto8230]

Service is a fundamental belief up help by many people

[@stanbimi]

The provocative word "rationing" is often brought up in the US media whenever healthcare reform is on the agenda. There is nothing wrong with rationing any scarce resources in high demand. Nevertheless it is a trigger word in public healthcare debates because of ethical issues. Should senior citizens be denied treatment? Rich people getting preferential services? Three years of the pandemic have burnt out many doctors and nurses everywhere. Many just quit their profession. In the US and Canada many people could not find a family doctor. The concept of one's personal physician does not seem to exist in China. All doctors are pooled into hospitals. Is that true?

[@avia4281]

I was in China my finger got infected from a wood door splinter same day cut out the infected part of my cuticle in hospital less than $5 USD. Now my mother in law local has been waiting in line for over 2.5 years appointment for surgery.

[@ubermenschen3636]

If you as a working-stiff need serious hospital care in USA, you’ll be bankrupt before you fully recover enough to go back to work. Many Americans are homeless or bankrupt because of the high cost of treating a serious illness.

[@BrandyHeng007]

Ignorance is bliss to the Americans until seeing is believing and knowledge becomes wisdom 😅

[@好人-u9s]

American healthcare is a joke

[@ngateminasmoredjo8351]

What do you think. Is health care not a part of human rights?

[@liamporter1137]

Thanks for sharing.

[@LW78321]

The healthcare system is Australia has worsened over the last decade. Long wait times for GP (general practitioner) have increased, and most clinics charge for appointments now (whereas it used to be bulk billed/free). The waiting times to see specialists and to have surgery is ridiculously long that you need to have private health insurance in order to have your health issues managed within a reasonable time frame (few months VS years). It's gone completely out of hand here

[@好人-u9s]

Here’s the English translation of your sentence: "If I were the President of the United States, I would never allow healthcare to be commercialized. I would build five comprehensive hospitals in every city as large as Los Angeles Airport. Each hospital would centralize testing, treatment, and pharmacies, with no need for any appointments - just walk in."

[@好人-u9s]

"I am Chinese. I have experienced healthcare services in the U.S., such as blood tests, CT scans, and MRIs. In China, all these tests can be completed in one morning, and you can see the doctor in the afternoon. But in the U.S., it takes six months after completing these tests to see a doctor. I don’t understand why the efficiency in the U.S. is so slow. In fact, they could clearly improve efficiency, but they insist on being this slow. I find it very difficult to understand. Can you explain it to me?"

[@vincestone5083]

For your info, there have been numerous cases where docs had been bashed up by the patients' friends and relatives for screwing up their cases!

[@Harveyinchina]

So this negates the facts in what way? Sorry I don’t understand

[@chrischen4480]

Some people believe that if a patient dies in the hospital, it is the hospital's fault. They demand compensation from the hospital, but if the hospital refuses, they will hit the doctor. Nowadays, this situation is much less common. Of course, there are also cases where a patient's death was caused by a doctor's mistake, but it is rare and doctors can be sued

[@dehua-2730]

1. I doubt the average salary in Shanghai is 13K, I don't know where you get it, my understanding it is somewhere 8-10k maybe. 2. In general the health care is extremely affordable in China compared to the US and Europe. 3. Even though I hate going to hospitals, I had a few experiences from small to big issues and overall the doctors have a lot of experience due to the sheer amount of people they have to take care of.

[@Harveyinchina]

Yes, the doctors seem very experienced. I googled ‘Shanghai average salary 2024’ and the first result said ¥13400, as did the next few results, so I guess it must be around that figure

[@weizhang2834]

@@HarveyinchinaI believe it’s even higher,because in China, a lot of underground income, the average salary always accounts people who is working in a stable job, some over 60000 per month, some just 6000 per month, people argue that because they live in their own circles and always think every body is the same

[@Weiningc66]

Not one politician say anything about out of control medical bill or that hospital and dental can just charge you as much as they like

[@williamchan8866]

But how about people who live there and have major health issues like cancer or liver problems…..those cost I believe are not cover in the public health system….anyone know?

[@ricotheman8139]

It’s partially covered, but still, it’s expensive for ordinary people.

[@ruoshiwen371]

@@ricotheman8139but you can buy extra commercial insurance to cover the rest

[@ruoshiwen371]

Last Thursday I had high fever, called gp and the receptionist simply told me there’s no appointment, call us tmr at 8. It was 39.5 degree fever and I almost blacked out for a moment. I went to hospital at 8:00pm, because that’s the only place you could be seen by a doctor after 6pm. It was until 3am I was seen by a doctor and then I was sent home at 5am. I had to wait in super uncomfortable chair for almost 5 hours during which I had fever again and experience a lot of pain. I was lucky that day there were not too many patients so I was given a bed at almost 2am. I am really happy I will be back to China soon and don’t ever need to go through this.

[@lilili2471]

in America, without the insurance, you need to file bankruptcy after you walk out the hospital.

[@Bipo-t3b]

Well done young man, u r telling the truth of how today society in China was so advanced & convenient equipped with the insane newest technologies in every sectors. Not to missed out for what u have seen in their public health care system.

[@elvenrights2428]

I just wish to ask you whether traditional Chinese healthcare services (acupuncture, etc) count as part of healthcare and are covered by health insurance in China?

[@ngfamily1397]

People are always encouraged to exercise to stay healthy, therefore the Square Dancing is such a phenomenon. Don't forget there is also the provision of Chinese medicine which used properly, complements well with Western medicine.

[@ricardoluitam]

Amazing video. Keep up the good work. Support

[@sherwiny89]

You forgot about TCM.

[@ChuanTeh]

In china, the people come first,

[@mooseymoose]

But but but mah anti China propaganda!!

[@hongqingxiang3374]

Thank you for your sharing🙏👍🙏

[@Mr_LH1980]

I'm overseas born Chinese. My dad still has UK and Chinese citizenship he got it through being born in HK and kept both passports. He had cancer in December 2023 in the UK. He needed to wait a month to see a specialist. He didn't want to wait and flew out here to Hong Kong crossed into Shenzhen and travelled to Guangzhou where he was in surgery the next day. It cost him £2400 out of pocket. Had he remained in it would take a lot longer and in August 2024 he would be going into surgery.

[@weizhang2834]

Same as in the USA , got cancel in 2023, waiting for the doctor until 2024 when cancer went into 3rd stage

[@lilypang7590]

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[@johnsouth3912]

Because it’s not!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kirklandday]

I love the thumbnail lmao

[@StefTechSurfer]

Australia has Medicare

[@amychow6955]

Thanks for your sharering

[@MusehanaH]

Your video kept popping up on my recommend videos...So, I clicked It is such a great thing to see a your person such yourself doing their research and be brave enough to make a video about it, instead of just swallowing what other tell you. Your perspective is excellent Republic of South Africa 🇿🇦

[@maniaouri2146]

Harvey are you in China or the UK now ? I know you been very happy in China, so if you are not in China, I wonder why ? hope you don't mind me asking The last 20 years I live in China, so the above is not a ''trap question''

[@etbuch4873]

I think you could go watch his video some 3 or 4 months ago, or could be a bit earlier than that. I think he talked about his returning to China with is girl friend (a Chinese he got to know when she was studying at the same university in the UK. They both went to graduate school there, if my recollection serves me well.).

[@Harveyinchina]

I live in shanghai

[@maniaouri2146]

@@Harveyinchina Thanks Harvey. Also thanks for nice videos. Please keep up the good work

[@sthdk7725]

In America, you can get the best medical service with expensive price. In China, you can get average medical service with affordable price.

[@williamharding9753]

I spent 2 months in China this year,fortunately I didn't need to see a doctor or go to hospital but I did get a sore throat and found it very difficult to find throat lozenges 😊, I intend to return to China in a month's time, I will take throat lozenges with me😂

[@Tony-rw1yj]

Urgent care walk-in takes forever and costs 100+ dollars. Just to be seen by a doctor. They write a med slip and get your meds.

[@nobilesnovushomo58]

Whatever their prices are, multiply them by 7 for market parity for the Chinese customer.

[@macalister8881]

Here in canada sickness is our biggest industry and our family doctors are a sick joke , the private doctors are great but exspensive

[@vaska1999]

We don't have a private health care sector at all! How can you lie so brazenly?! 😮

[@macalister8881]

@@vaska1999 of course we do , here in edmonton you can pay $ 150 to see a doctor for 30 mins , a psychiatrist is $250 or do you not know how to search on goggle ?

[@macalister8881]

@@vaska1999 yes we do

[@macalister8881]

@@vaska1999 i have a private family doctor and psychiatrist it cost $ 150 to see my family doctor and $250 to see my psychiatrist

[@vaska1999]

@@macalister8881 The private health care "facilities" in Ontario provide only lab and imagining services, with a few allowed to provide fancy cosmetic skin treatments and similar. There are no private hospitals, and "Aside from dental clinics and optometry offices, private health care is not allowed under Canadian law."

[@王雅静-b2x]

I live in Shanghai, and 2% of my salary is automatically deducted for government medical insurance. In 2022, when I worked at a consulting firm, my salary exceeded the upper limit for the medical insurance payment base (35,000 RMB), so I paid 683 RMB each month. In 2023, I worked at a law firm where my salary was below the lower limit of the base (6,800 RMB), so I paid 142 RMB each month. Despite this, I can still use the balance in my medical account accumulated from previous years. I rarely visit the hospital. Recently, I bought a gel for treating acne that cost 28 RMB, which was fully covered by my medical account. The registration fee for a top public hospital is 25 RMB, with 19 RMB paid by the account and 6 RMB paid in cash. I'm particularly satisfied with the MRI price: 400 RMB for one part (ankle, knee, etc.), with 360 RMB covered by the account and 40 RMB paid in cash. I will get most of my body scanned before I go abroad next year; it will surely save me a huge amount of money. In fact I think the low price we paid for medical care is based on the exploitation of docters and nurses in public hospitals. They are so diligent with so small salary. To be honest I cannot fully understanded why don't they emmigrant to other countries or work for private/international hospitals.

[@ChuanTeh]

These people take their job seriously it's not about paid, in china the people come first when you are a public servants even their president

[@HappyPandaBear73]

👍🏼🇨🇳🌏☮️🙏🙂❗️

[@nokia5359]

😂😂😂😂

[@yuanshuan7099]

In Shanghai, I think the average salary is about between 5,000 rmb to 15,000 rmb

[@DonGivani]

Correct between 7000 and 11000 rmb

[@DonGivani]

Around 1200 euro

[@colinlee9678]

Are there any chemist shops in China or are all medicines dispensed at hospitals and private GP clinics?

[@amyman5179]

lots of pharmacies, prescription medication controls are relatively lenient.

[@antoniomiguelsimao]

Smart young man.

[@sidmarx7276]

After undergoing general anasthesia, do you wake up with all your organs present and accounted for?

[@Harveyinchina]

Are you talking from personal experience, or did you hear that on Twitter?

[@aijieli8836]

@@Harveyinchina haha, that must be a Fa Lun gong practioner

[@osuan9]

nice..

[@geoff2504]

I’m sorry to say that your generalities as to the wealth of Chinese citizens is totally misguided! Millions of Chinese are almost unable to feed themselves properly yet alone pay to see a doctor or for medication! And salaries in a big city are huge compared to other towns. And that’s BEFORE the latest tragedies taking place today all over the country. I personally witnessed an elderly lady whose up front payment for treatment of a broken hip ran out and her pain medication was withdrawn until family arrived to pay a few hours later. My wife at the time was in the adjacent bed btw. Such care and compassion eh??

[@ruoshiwen371]

My grandma is a farmer, she has not paid a penny tax all her life. But the gov gave unemployed people healthcare insurance as well. They can go to the nearby hospitals for treatment and 60% fee is covered.

[@Greego-z1z]

yeh yeh yeh you kids come to the big cities and see Elderado .go out to the real country and see someone on a pension of 17 dollars a month ,,just look at the old pensioners bent double with a lifetimes toil .living on cabbage soup and afraid to smile because they have no teeth all because Xi spends the money on an unbelievable army,battleships and his family and cohorts shifting money overseas.I,m sick of al these teenies who get off the plane and wander around big cities on electric hire bikes...Yes China is wonderful and all because of Deng but now we have Xi or should I say Mao,s ghost whose only goal is to invade Taiwan and and the Pacific ocean

[@brentondahlitz721]

You don't know as much as you claim plus I bet you have not been to China if you have you have not studied properly. I have been there 7 times in the last 15 years and the fist time I went I got real sick went to the local hospital was treated within 20 minutes and was out of there under 3 hours for about 30 RNB plus fealing great. I suggest you go there if you haven't and leave the western BS behind plus go with an open mind and if you have been I suggest you start to learn facts not BS.

[@andrewmills623]

Pay & get an appointment, pay, get treated, of course. ¥25, yes, not much to see a doctor, but how much after? From my experience I cut my leg, needed stitches, every time I returned, before treatment, pay first(¥100+ each time), this is not affordable to many & was a pretty simple procedure. It's also worth mentioning, hospitals in Shanghai/Beijing)1st Tier cities differ from inland. It's hard to compare to the NHS, which definitely has it's troubles, but it's free to the point of service & not whether you can afford to pay.

[@inkbold8511]

Here in the U.S. cut your thumb on chop saw, go to urgent care for 5 stitches and you get a bill for $5k and of course you need to go to PC for stitch removal and paid for your own medication. That ¥100 yuan is definitely cheaper compared to $5000+ for similar type of service and I have to wait 6 hours just to get the stitches.

[@poechia]

The first of all,Most Chinese people can afford it. and then If they have medical insurance, it will be cheaper

[@ruoshiwen371]

Free service surely comes at a price, e.g, very limited appointments.

[@andrewmills623]

@@ruoshiwen371 like I said, the NHS has it's issues, but it's not about affordability!!

[@andrewmills623]

@@poechia What about the ones who can't afford it?

[@AlexMkd1984]

compared american lies bad health is usa 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣

[@科普头像]

I am in Shenzhen, So many Hong Kong people come to Shenzhen for medical treatment

[@nabilfares555]

The outcomes of the Chinese healthcare system is also clear. For example, according to UN sources, during COVID 2019 to 2021, life expectancy was still going up in China and reached 78.12 in 2021. By contrast, in the US it was dropping in those same years and reached 76.38 in 2021. So it’s better to be in China than in the US during a healthcare crisis thus showing the superiority of the Chinese healthcare system to that in the US. (source en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy)

[@joshhhh8858]

In the US after you have an appointment with your general practitioner, you've been dead after he comes.

[@好人-u9s]

Here’s the English translation of your message: "I am Chinese. I have experienced healthcare services in the U.S., such as blood tests, CT scans, and MRIs. In China, all these tests can be completed in one morning, and you can see the doctor in the afternoon. But in the U.S., it takes six months after completing these tests to see a doctor. I don’t understand why the efficiency in the U.S. is so slow. In fact, they could clearly improve efficiency, but they insist on being this slow. I find it very difficult to understand. Can you explain it to me?"