I Didn't Think Madame Web Was Bad... I Thought it Was HORRENDOUS

[@Recyclablee]

i haven't seen it but the idea of a grown woman being made to play a bashful, blushing, shy and 'innocent' 14 year old gives really weird vibes

[@penguinsrbirds2]

Not to make it weirder, but they also put her in a skirt that was clearly supposed to be "school girl" but was just...DEFINITELY too short to be an actual school uniform. Lol. I think the character is typically more conservatively dressed in the comics, too, so it wasn't like it was for accuracy. And listen, I'm actually not a prude about this type of thing, women can totally be portrayed as sexy, I just thought the way that Sweeney was playing the character all bashful and naive made the character have such an off-putting vibe. Edit: LMAO I'm dumb and too quick to comment, because I literally just got to the point in the video where Trin points this out. 🤦‍♀

[@tiffanykim2773]

You'd rather them overwork an actual teenager?

[@bruh102]

​@@tiffanykim2773an 18 year old would have been better

[@risingmoon56]

​@@tiffanykim2773Younger actors are a thing. You're acting like getting an actual teenager is bizarre. And that's not what they said, they said it's weird to have a grown woman in a short skirt act all cutesy, shy, and innocent and dancing on tables when she's playing a 14 year old.

[@Sheiryla]

She doesn’t look too old at all

[@teabecca]

the only reason i didn’t fall asleep by the end was simply because every time i got close to sleep there was an explosion 😊

[@Kevin.Costner.]

if Trin says its not that bad i believe her, its final

[@teabecca]

@@Kevin.Costner. it’s def not the worst movie ever !

[@teddyeatspudding]

@@teabeccaIt's up there. Wasted time and money for this garbage

[@marslander2488]

Hahaha!!!

[@princessadrigirl6774]

It’s like they knew 😂

[@thefilipinonerd]

PAUSE. sydney sweeney's character was supposed to be FOURTEEN???

[@nayaabshah1155]

😮

[@CarmelitaTheCakesniffingQueen]

I love Sydney but she didn’t even pass as a teen in euphoria, she def isn’t 14

[@Silkenchérie]

@@CarmelitaTheCakesniffingQueenliterally she’s 26….like what

[@nottodayimbusy7146]

​@@Silkenchérie I think that was what they were trying to say

[@luishp3]

That’s WILD.

[@NatReyes961]

They couldn’t get an actual 14 year old to play Julia? Sydney Sweeney looks like her age (late 20s) so now it’s really weird seeing a 20 year old act like a kid. I didn’t actually know her character is supposed to be that young because nobody talks about it.

[@carter_lovejoy]

Yeah. It’s basically like one of those late 90s/early 2000s teen movies, and also those CW teen and superhero shows, where they have 25-30 year old actors playing 14-18 year olds in high school.

[@222222ania]

Sydney isn’t in her late 20’s tf

[@3starsburningbright]

@@222222ania she’s 26, so yeah, mid-late 20s

[@adrenalinjunkie9682]

​@@3starsburningbright every 26 year old is crying right now. Every. One.

[@katsageexe]

I don't understand why it's so hard to just cast a teenager, I understand child labour laws but other movies do it lol

[@MissLovebat]

Dakota Johnson looks so unsure of herself during those interview clips 😂

[@holychaos5398]

Girl I'm telling you....she was like that THE WHOLE PRESS TOUR

[@yukikanegawa7470]

I probably would be too. How do you promote a movie you were tricked into acting in that you hated that you know people are going to start flaming the day it comes out.

[@holychaos5398]

@@yukikanegawa7470 It really reminds me a lot to Halle berry when she did Catwoman

[@animegraveyard776]

​@@holychaos5398 How was she tricked?

[@PedroHenrique-fz3jc]

​​@@animegraveyard776 the original script leaked. Madam web was supposed to protect Peter Parker's (Tom holland's Peter) mom from being assassinated (because this villain traveled back in time to kill her and stop Peter from being born). But midway through production - once Dakota was signed already - they kept making changes to the story until it became this mess. (supposedly) Dakota had only two options, either finish the movie or cancel the contract and pay the contract break fine - which tend to be millionaire amounts

[@BrandonJames2016]

The fact they had sm talent behind this movie but somehow managed to make it awful is so wild. Like I feel bad for the actors at this point bc their careers are stained by this movie they have this mess on their resume.

[@LeviAckerman-cb5ji]

This will be the Simple Jack of many careers.

[@rachelayvaz1579]

Such an amazing cast but I crappy script!!

[@holychaos5398]

The writers of MORBIUS talented? Lmao

[@rachelayvaz1579]

@@holychaos5398 the writer of this movie was also the writer behind morbius? No wonder it sucked.

[@BrandonJames2016]

@@holychaos5398 I’m talking about the actors 💀

[@decemberdowell3779]

Dakota Johnson sounded so unserious about everything, even in the movie.

[@trinaq]

This movie should have focused on the three Spiderwomen, and actually showed them becoming the heroes they were destined to become. Instead, they were running away for most of the movie, and sidelined, which is a shame, because Sydney Sweeney, Celeste O'Connor and Isabela Merced had great chemistry and appeal.

[@JSPokemonYT]

Agreed

[@carter_lovejoy]

Trin: “I didn’t think Madame Web was bad…” Me: **GASP** “You thought it was good?!” Trin: “I thought it was HORRENDOUS!” Me: **Sighs in relief** “Oh, thank God!”

[@trinaq]

Haha, I have to admit, she almost had me, and I'm glad that she hates the movie just as much as the rest of us.

[@ProdigousKal.El.]

The way I was like “wait huh?” And squinted my eyes to re-read the title closer 🤣

[@anaerobic]

Good job getting the joke 👍

[@ritzee13]

Apparently, the actors were under the impression that this movie was part of the Marvel universe and even tagged Marvel in their movie posts (Their posts were deleted later). I think they assumed the script would be good since its MCU.

[@Fengsuave_]

Mcu scripts are also terrible. The only reason we thought they were good is because we were preteens and stupid😭

[@ritzee13]

@baskasboominbrows6704 I know what you mean, but it is a big franchise and most actors would be eager to be a part of the MCU, so thats why I think they accepted this script.

[@VinnieMF]

​@@Fengsuave_ Some pretty good scripts early on in the MCU, as they got bigger Marvel cared less and less.

[@aussiejo5764]

The movies in, what do they call it, Phase One? Those were alright. Like, pre-2015

[@goatbrook9065]

​@@Fengsuave_not really its cause the old writing was smarter and was made to set up character arcs in the future, now its more rushed and less cared about

[@aubreyrusso8819]

THE DUBBED LINES WERE DRIVING ME CRAZY AND MY DAD DIDNT BELIEVE ME THAT IT WAS HAPPENING

[@itskaraelizabeth]

Sydney Sweeney does not pass as a 14/15 year old. What the heck.

[@jclyntoledo]

That's because she's in Euphoria playing a 16 year old, so they probably figured it was okay 😂😂. I didn't realize she was supposed to be that young in the movie but to be fair there are some pretty developed teen girls at 14 or 15

[@trinaq]

It was incredibly awkward for them to dance around actually saying Peter or May's names. Surely there was a better way to get around this than Ben inexplicably refusing to tell Cassie the name of his new girlfriend?

[@lkf8799]

Oooooh. I completely missed that. LMAO 😅

[@CaleReacts]

Cassandra's reaction to literally everything was just "okay" and I was beyond disappointed by the humanity (or lack thereof) in the script.

[@boyfriendsfavdj]

my favorite line “who took my spider?! they took my spider!”

[@beti5618]

I realy liked it when cassie said ‘it’s webbin’ time’

[@bjr1459]

what was worse for dakota johnson: ellen or this movie

[@carter_lovejoy]

Both of these plus her talent agent/agency having her do this movie.

[@gemmaviol3t]

i'd say this movie tbfh, at least ellen had her looking smarter & funnier & just overall better 😭😭😭

[@cherrybombrose3532]

This movie….Ellen made people like Dakota due to roasting her. This movie is making people hate her due to her nepo attitude

[@yukikanegawa7470]

Ellen was shorter to film and ultimately made a lot of people like her for exposing Ellen so I think her answer would be pretty clear cut I think.

[@yukikanegawa7470]

​@@cherrybombrose3532I have seen literally no one talking badly about Dakota beyond some people saying her acting here is bad. But everyone's acting is bad here and they are not all bad actors so it's clearly the directors fault. Dakota is also clearly done with this project and a lot of these actors seem to have been hired by low-key tricking them into thinking they would be in a Marvel movie. Their promotional posts tagged Marvel not Sony. She's done a lot of interviews saying the movie sucks basically so I've only seen people calling her humble and self aware.

[@scarlett8782]

so.... a spider bite can cure a terminally ill fetus but not a gunshot wound? I've seen Spiderman fall off a 500 ft skyscraper, land on the concrete, and hop back up like it was all in good fun, meanwhile, back in the Amazon, a single gunshot wound is taking out a mother who has also been treated with magical spider DNA. make it make sense

[@alexanderlane6115]

The infamous One More Day storyline taught us that bullet wounds are incurable unless you make a literal deal with the devil. Nothing and no one else Spider-Man knows, from Reed Richards to Dr Strange, can fix a gunshot wound. Apparently.

[@panpan4757]

i mean it is a different kind of spider, the one that bit spiderman has been genetically modified and is radioactive in some versions, where as the spider that bit her mom is just a super rare kind in peru i guess

[@camryngarrett6068]

maybe they did have AI write the script and the actors knew and disapproved and that’s why they didn’t try very hard

[@yukikanegawa7470]

Apparently there was a better version and that's the one they signed up for but there was a lot of intervention so the script changed dramatically. I assume it was too late to back out since they had already been filming and signed contracts. So they probably gave up around that time.

[@user-sg6ww7ts6n]

they’re supposed to be FOURTEEN?!?! i SAW the movie and I thought they were at least 17!!!!

[@user-sg6ww7ts6n]

WHY WOULD THEY CAST THESE GROWN WOMEN ???

[@aussiejo5764]

apparently it’s hard to work with children, legally.

[@Nadia-jk5jw]

it’s hard to find young actors to “stunt cast”. the only child actress i can think of is mckenna grace

[@user-sg6ww7ts6n]

@@aussiejo5764 i know that, but there is a HUGE difference between hiring an 18 year old to play a 14 year old, vs hiring a 26 year old to play a 14 year old😭

[@user-sg6ww7ts6n]

@@Nadia-jk5jw omg my name is also nadia btw

[@phia3350]

My favorite part is when she points at the pregnant lady and says "my mom died in childbirth"

[@simpleplanfan011]

I went to see it on Valentine’s Day and my audience bonded over laughing at the unintentionally hilarious parts. Dakota’s line readings in some of those scenes were rough; even she knew it was horrible. I guess I can stan a self aware queen 🤷

[@0912sooli]

I hate that they make such bad movies with female lead...Marvel needs to put some effort to make good Female lead superhero...

[@letsbehonest6322]

I loved the movie, legitimately it was just a ton of fun for me, partially because of how bad it is. My biggest laugh came during a 'serious scene'. The bad guy is beginning to harm the NSA/CIA/WTFE agent woman. He grabs her arm black begins to fill her veins as she begins to weaken. Instead of 'what is that?' or 'what are you doing to me?' The agent asks "How are you poisoning me?"; and sure, she's not wrong, but the leap in logic from 'ow, the arm he is squeezing hurts' to 'he must be poisoning me...how?' is so funny. after being asked "how are you poisoning me?" the villain says he is poisoning her. It's just *mwah* perfect cinema, the acting, the writing, it's all so beautiful.

[@rebecca4007]

Wait hold up scratch any other plot point- Sydney Sweeney is supposed to be playing FOURTEEN ?

[@CaleReacts]

The best thing I could say to synopsize the movie is... it seems like an A-list cast got shoved into a jr. high school production and the director left on maternity leave the 2nd week of rehearsals.

[@valentecarrillo4259]

I remember rumors back then that the plot of the movie is that Madame Web was going to protect Mary Parker played by Emma Roberts from a villain before we found out it was Ezekiel who wants to kill spiderman mom before he's even born. Given that Dakota said that they keep changing the script that must of been the original plot for the flim.

[@venus2707]

you're so right about sydney's character ! i was so disappointed because i went into this excited to see something sydney sweeney wasn't being sexualized and objectified in, and then they make her this stereotypical schoolgirl that the men who watch this movie will probably fetishize.

[@fakhira2252]

there’s something to be said of the bashful timid innocent girl being white while her brown and black counterparts are not (shy, etc) probably not the studio’s intention but also very 🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴

[@tiffanykim2773]

Hhhhhmmmm yea still not this movie's biggest issue.

[@michelangelow]

The writing legitimately seemed A.I generated 😩 And I’m not even really hypercritical with movies but this was…yeah

[@abbycruz1106]

Literally, I loved the action and was expecting them to have their full on powers and they didn’t🫠 All they did was just try to escape the dude

[@jamieevans3458]

My new favourite quote: “BORING. SLOPPY. LAZY.” -Trin Lovell 2024

[@TheNinjapancake14]

It’s like a spin on that Lady Gaga quote

[@zozolikessleep-.-]

Im pretty sure its actually an Abby Lee Miller reference

[@DA-yy8rs]

@@zozolikessleep-.- it certainly is

[@Anna-MLS]

they put sydney sweeney in a ginger wig and we’re supposed to believe she’s 14???

[@jeans46442]

She actually got hit by one of the fireworks while in the water and it made me cackle, it was such a weird choice for her losing her vision

[@risingmoon56]

Right? 😂😂 How was it even still lit while completely submerged? 😂😂. If she was gonna lose her vision to the fireworks they should've just had it happen before falls into the water.

[@jfrsnjhnsn]

It passes the Bechdel test.

[@azural8347]

The bar is lower than hell😭

[@TheNinjapancake14]

I guess? Not my Bechdel test

[@atomicultos]

I haven't seen this movie but hearing trin describe it makes it seem like this movie HAS to be a comedy- there's no way 😭

[@swalbi1579]

-„Hey i don‘t really want to watch the movie, can you just tell me who defeats the antagonist?“ -„Sure, it‘s Pepsi.“

[@theCommentDevil]

When I first saw the commercial for it I assumed it was gonna air on the CW or something and was shocked when it said it was a movie

[@babayaga9805]

0:44 please someone tell her that she is not promoting fifty shades of grey here

[@aj27turquoiseskies]

Dakota looks like she is constantly being held hostage by someone on the other side of the camera

[@ella-louise9537]

I just finished watching this movie with my twin and we can’t stop quoting the end “kung pow chicken is fine” “how did you know?” Also I LITERALLY said as soon as it ended it felt like 3 separate stories so I’m glad I’m not alone on that thought lol

[@maria-sp4lz]

my friends and i saw this opening night and we were the only ones in the theater

[@hannahrivera40]

the way they couldn’t just have the man repeat his lines… Like millions of dollars into this movie and u couldn’t have the man redo his lines …. TRASH

[@Kevin.Costner.]

2 Tickets To Madam Web Please

[@lindseystein9676]

I was skeptical of the low reviews because there are some groups online who dedicate wayyyy too much time review bombing any movies/shows with women as superhero, movies/shows that are really anti nazi (happened to Hunters), and any lgbt related movies/shows. Sounds like this one is genuinely rough, though… Studios need to chill with the superhero comic movies. We’re all sick of it.

[@hellopurrrty]

dakota johnson saying i can't believe there's people here💪💀

[@alfiecavallaro]

i want masterclass to create an episode with dakota johnson about how actors should go on a press tour!

[@Negol-ele]

I liked this movie, because it reminded me of my mom. She was researching spiders in the Amazon, right before she died

[@shainewhite2781]

Yeah.... This movie sucked. Dakota Johnson regrets being in the film, and had no idea what the hell was happening with the script. An industry insider had said that all sequels were cancelled due to the poor box office and critical reception.

[@sweet__cherry]

Gonna be real but even her acting was just...whatever. I haven't seen her in much so maybe it was more the script than her but just everything was not good

[@frognamedjog]

​@@sweet__cherry i genuinely think she just gave up haha. She knew the script sucked and that it kept changing and I'm sure she could tell the movie was going to be a massive flop

[@fancy_avocado]

At least we got the Dakota Johnson interviews

[@ahrockerz8665]

I love this movie. I find it so funny, and like you said, very campy. I actually saw it twice in theatres, willingly, and had a blast both times. A lot of the acting is very poorly done, with bad line delivery, but it made my friends and I laugh. Dakota is naturally very charming (and who doesn't love Sydney Sweeney?), so I totally see this reaching cult classic status in the years to come. Is it a good movie? No. Hell no. However, it's super fun to watch with friends.

[@stepha_F]

Saw it in theaters… I have never fallen asleep watching a movie at a theater before then…

[@Jvideowatcher]

Can someone pls explain why Ben could see that spider mf???? I wish they touched on why the characters could see him but not everyone else

[@Andrea_Kelly]

There’s no way the script for this movie was written by professional script writers. This was thrown together by the studio and they probably used AI to do it. A shining example of how AI cannot replace the talent, skill and experience of good script writers. The visuals were cool the writing was meh.

[@rachelayvaz1579]

I’ve been seeing mixed reviews about this movie, and this was my highly highly anticipated movie of this year, I mean Dakota Johnson, Sydney Sweeney, Isabella Monor!!! Dude I was exicted, but now seeing these reviews. I’m now rethinking on seeing it.

[@synth888]

My best friend and I went to see it and I was just so confused. Like you said it feels like so much was just left out so it was honestly laughable. A drinking game where you 1.) Drink every time Cassie yells at someone unprompted or 2.) Drink whenever a new character appears with very little or no explanation. Also her whole power of being able to be in multiple places at once? It could've been so cool but she used it once and it was incredibly anticlimactic. Like her physical body just stands there unprotected? She can't use her physical body while controlling the others? Idk it could've been great but it wasn't. No hate to the actors tho they did what they could with what they were given.

[@BobRoss-yr7ui]

The plot has so much potential but the execution was just so funky. The acting from everyone was atrocious imo and I felt there was no motion in their performance..like no sense of urgency when they’re about to be killed…🌚🌚and I knew that there was something off about the villains dialogue ☠️

[@marim8494]

She goes blind because she reaches her full potential (as told to her by the Peruvian guy). I thought the movie overall was fun to laugh at!

[@lunarhorrors]

IM SO GLAD YOU NOTICED THE DUBBING OH MY GOD

[@pxrnstache]

trin please tell us tht ur gonna do a commentary on “poor things” we and i specifically wanna hear ur thoughts!

[@janiewarren3651]

Seconded🙋‍♀️

[@Gamaray18]

Really annoyed that KZbin didn’t give me a notification about this until seven hours after it was posted

[@cudderrhead]

waitttt you ate on that intro!!!

[@bun__]

Trin's slayful outfit ate up this movie by thousands 😭💀💀

[@iforgetjustwhyitaste1061]

Hopefully this movie is remade at some point, because the premise is very interesting.

[@savannahregister9374]

17:22 IS GIVING JENNA MARSHALL FROM PLL LMAOOOOO

[@Coulkitty52415]

Wait they are supposed to be 14?!

[@quanmemers3527]

They really should just focus on the Spiderverse trilogy.

[@nereidaaide]

The titles 😭

[@traitorjosie]

i was one of two people in the theater (my friend was the other) and we were recording it like it was a concert 😭

[@jmaree_official]

15:58 🤣🤣🤣The Pepsi cola P🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pinkblink0211]

sydney sweeney playing a 14 year old uhhhhhhhhh what the

[@h_51415]

I only saw it for Sydney sweeney but tbh it wasn’t too bad..

[@raccoonwarlock]

I personally think this movie is a piece of satire. "We aren't allowed to use the names Peter Parker or May, so we're going to make fun of the fact we can't say it!" "Of COURSE the villain gets his powers from a essentially a magic spider, what Spider-person hasn't?" "You think just because she's a Spider-man character she has the spider powers? NO!" The scene of Cass & Ben eating take-out on their lunch was all it took to convince me she's just a lesbian afraid of children. This movie is aware that comic books are full of ridiculous concepts & *chooses* to enjoy those concepts. Because if they tried to make a frankly C-list character into a serious high-prestige drama, no one would've cared

[@Darrylizer1]

"With great entitlement come great power." - Hollywood Person.

[@nextstop-everywhere]

See unfortunately when people say marvel movies are bad, its often bc its a female heavy movie and Some People dont like that. But in this case... its genuinely bad.

[@dakotainthesky]

Maybe it could have been better with only 1 girl instead of three. Also, 9/11 was only 2 years before but no mention of it. Maybe it could have contributed to her character’s personality

[@lucaleone4331]

Dakota Johnson deserved so much better lol I wanted to see this and to see it work just bc I love her so much

[@YouAreInBaSingSeNow]

Shes not a bad actress at all, the issue are her agents. 💀

[@Ali_b1009]

It should have been a TV series, would have given enough room to explore each characters and develop the storyline. Everything in the movie feels rushed like they had to fit everything in under 2 hours

[@JSPokemonYT]

I watched Madame Web via CAM Version & this is the worst Superhero & Comic Book Movie that I've ever seen in my life. I feel terrible for a lot of the actors involved, because none of them deserve to have this movie in their filmography. Sony Pictures should be ashamed of themselves for making this movie & at this point Kevin Fiege & Marvel Studios need to take the Spider-Man rights away from Sony, because they clearly can't handle having Spider-Man or any Superhero at all.

[@y.2439]

Julia is just the stereotype of anime school girls😨

[@teabecca]

i took a little lie down at the end

[@MarvinPowell1]

This movie literally only got made because Amy Pascal, at Sony, wanted an all-female "girl boss" movie back in 2014 connected to Spider-Man. That's it. The script was actually bought as a failed script from a DC franchise, Birds of Prey (not the one that got released) and was reworked into being a Marvel property using Marvel characters. The director ordered several rewrites, including setting it in 2003 literally only to use the song Toxic in the movie (which actually came out in 2004) and cause she was nostalgic about her 30s; she said this in a Forbes website puff piece. The movie was likely edited to hell and back, with several major scenes cut out; Dakota Johnson even admitted the script changed so much, it was unrecognizable.

[@trinitybell541]

I saw this high and actually started crying laughing in the final scenes…it was so unreal that it was a comedy

[@laurenshannon3897]

This movie felt like spark notes. No details but got the gist

[@nezuxi]

the jennacore of it all at 17:07

[@juliadebbesay9465]

saved 20 dollars & watched it online instead 😍🤞🏽

[@PrettyMuchIt]

05:26 👋🏼

[@pbf7719]

This review was more enjoyable than the actual movie. Subscribed.

[@kalliehill1838]

Trin you have to watch Lisa Frankenstein PLEASE YOU WOULD LOVE IT

[@CaleReacts]

Ezekiel's script and dubbing/acting was one of the worst things I've ever seen. Genuinely.

[@poem2myself]

Studio Movie Grill, brings back memories of walking to the one in Arlington after work, fun times! Not this movie though, never this movie.

[@whenthepawn99]

Off topic but I really want trin to watch million dollar baby with clint eastwood. I just watched it and it really blew me away.

[@MadcapMatt]

Why did they actively try so hard not to say Spider-Man or Peter Parker though?

[@michaelasteele77]

pretty sure it's part of the legal agreement regarding licensing between sony and marvel

[@racheIbane]

i was watching this before i had to go to work sad that i had to leave now i’m back home and cozy in my bed. CUE THE MADAME WEB DRAG

[@dapu571]

you were giving jenna from ppl when you put the sunglasses on

[@LeviAckerman-cb5ji]

This film gets a ton of views in Guantanamo bay.

[@moses9647]

I refuse to give Dakota Johnson a pass. Ppl keep saying shes just being self-aware of the bad movie shes in. But do we have proof shes a top tier actress? For me she hasnt had the renaissance of ppl like Kirsten Stewart and Robert Pattinson who broke out of their early objectively not great projects. Ive seen good acting in bad movies which often results in cult classics. As far as im concerned, she just Ryan Reynolds'd it but she has a standoffish persona irl which just peads to a main character who doesnt seem interested in her own story. Horrible.

[@emmyy18_]

I KNOW it was a bad movie, but I think it wasn’t THAT bad… I was entertained maybe not for the good reason, I cringed a lot, hated some lines but it was so funny 🤭

[@emmyy18_]

I want to add, the villain is SO BAD, like his lines are ridiculous and like Trin said, his lines dubbed are horrible lol

[@yjzn]

something in me knew it wasn’t gonna be good😭

[@TheLegendaryMovieCritic]

So glad Madame Web was a huge disaster for Sony!

[@JustBrandon-i]

they should have waited