I Don't Need It, I Don't Need It.... The Rolex Daytona

[@Slohoffman01]

Honestly, I've never understood how this watch became SO desirable. It's OK, but there are SO many other beautiful chronos that you can actually buy. The hype isn't really about the watch IMO, it's just a very successful "scarcity" campaign by Rolex that makes people crave it.

[@kojiattwood]

Me either, as you say, there are so many other comparable options.

[@Slohoffman01]

@@Pler1978 I have a 7 1/4” wrist and wear a FOIS Speedmaster, and it looks great. I feel it wears larger

[@RootBeerGMT]

Faux scarcity

[@alex5471]

I don’t care much for the stainless steel Daytonas (PMs on oysterflex are by far cooler in my opinion), but one thing it has going for it is that it is by far one of the slimmest (and most rock solid) automatic chronographs from a high end brand

[@giusepperocchi2979]

@@Pler1978 With the Daytona they nailed the proportions, it wears beautifully. The Speedmaster is a bit too chunky for a manual chronograph.

[@nicksingleton]

So many watch aficionados are turned off because the lack of availability and premium cost on the secondary market. The Daytona is an incredible watch in the Rolex catalog.

[@giovannibusato9815]

Perfect 50s birthday self-gift for who can, at 30 is only for appearence to me. I have an Ebel with El Primero and is nice for 3k

[@Gearsandco]

Stupidity hurts sometimes, and this is where we are today double the price of an already over priced and over hyped watch! I like the Daytona but no more than the retail price. It’s not a watch I seek. I have more interest in the speed Master professional than the Daytona not because it’s cheaper but mainly because it’s less popular, that’s another reason why I own a reference 14000 air king, I think it’s just me. I don’t like to be wearing a watch where 90% of clueless people want it for the bling and show off, it only makes me steer away further and further!

[@modernworldiscrap]

The 16520 is the definitive Daytona. Vintage, rare and elegant.

[@MrFornicater]

Everyone wants it because everyone else wants it...that is the genius of Rolex.

[@Warrengr89]

Yeah from a manufacturer who produces over a million watches a year. Real exclusive.

[@troisk]

@@Warrengr89 Probably only a few thousand SS Daytonas (at most) in their yearly 1-1.3M produced though. Rolex is the most famous watch brand in the world, they have like 2000 points of sale, and this is the SS watch they produce in the smallest amount. It was already hard to get a SS Daytona back in 2016 before the Newman auction insanity and then Covid hype.

[@rudimussrodeln]

I like Omega but the nice ones are 42mm and thats too big for me. Only Rolex gets the sizes and proportions right, esp. with vintage

[@troisk]

@@rudimussrodeln Did you try the moonwatch in person? It's described as 42mm because of the crown guards but it's a 40mm. The lug to lug is smaller than a Submariner, and it's well known for fitting all wrist sizes. The bracelet has no fixed end links.

[@rudimussrodeln]

@@troisk Daytona still is smaller and I even prefer wearing 36mm watches. Omega builds excellent watches but if they only deliver for large wrists, they should not complain that Rolex is the king because Rolex offers the smaller watches.

[@mikestanley4457]

Why do you screw down the pushers? If you know it’s going to get really wet or you have to swim with it then screw them down. It’s waterproof without screwing it down. The screw down is just to prevent the pusher from being pushed while submerged which risks water intrusion

[@fabienponchard2220]

Daytona is my grail watch I will buy it one day. Both version are stunning.. I guess someone needs to try them on to be able to choose one

[@bobmclennan1727]

The big aspect that gets overlooked is the Daytona's thinness. It's barely over 12mm, which is wafer thin for a chronograph, and almost unheard-of for an automatic chronograph. Overpriced? Yep. Overhyped? Absolutely. But there's no denying its quality.

[@mikestanley4457]

That’s the biggest reason I love it. I think the Tudor black bay chrono is beautiful until you look at it from the side. An absolute slab. If they could make it closer to the thinness of the Daytona I’d go for one in a heartbeat

[@koolpep]

I got my 126500 black dial and love it. Get it. It’s worth it.

[@danschlacks7188]

It's a beautiful watch and you did an excellent job (as usual) explaining the pros and cons. I'm fortunate to have 2 subs and a Datejust, so my Rolex itch has been scratched...I think, until I look at a bleusy or a review like this. Damn you!

[@juliuscaesar5360]

Personally don’t understand the hype warranted for the Daytona. You can hardly read the time on the watch lmao.

[@1bobola]

Let’s be honest, it’s the Chronograph to have, and the one everyone wants!

[@jethrojacinto2798]

I'd like to own a 16520 someday to add to my Daytona collection.

[@skim2433]

there is no alternative for Rolex daytona brand value 40mm case diameter 12mm thickness 72 power reserve vertical clutch column wheel automatic winding 100m water resistant free sprung balance with parachrom hairspring(more stable and anti magnetism) I have never seen like this chronograph in the market. only daytona has all of it. therefore, market is wiling to pay for the hype even though many people say it's overrated and overhyped. it does not matter to me until the complete rival comes up.

[@Orozco_PNW]

The Pitzmann also looks more useful with the date complication... 4hz beat rate to boot?? I might have to get one!

[@lirrfan3879]

Great video! Very in depth. I personally love the look of the Daytona and would buy a new one at retail in a second…as unlikely as that is. Using the Chronograph with screw down pushers is a pain! I have a Tudor BB Panda Chrono…seldom use the chrono on it. When I need to time something (which doesn’t happen too often LOL) I go for my Speedy or Navitimer.

[@kshamrocked]

the newer hamilton jazzmaster performer chrono are great alternatives

[@theWaltVegas]

Why don't we hear about the Pitzmann more? It has a great movement that's basically half the cost of the watch. I hear the bracelet is short for people like me with an almost 8" wrist. i can't wait to hear what you think about it. As far as the Daytona goes, that was a great breakdown. There's not much more to say. It's a beautiful legend of a watch that's impossible to get at a decent price. I love how thin they are for a chronograph.

[@gavinwhite9743]

Tried one on, removing my speedy to do so, and didn't get the feels. Tried on a white gold submariner cookie, and I'm on waiting list for that. Its whatever floats your boat, but I think secondary prices putting these at same price as gold…nah…good but plenty of other good options at the secondary prices. Tbh, even at list I’d pass. If there was no secondary market mark up, I wonder how many other people would pass too.

[@aussieexpatwatches]

You should measure the watch with some calipers. Not even that modern 11 series daytona is 40mm. 38.4mm is what I measure.

[@joehenderson1]

Pitzmann?! Great watch brand. I was expecting you to recommend Tudor- your recommendation was much more sophisticated. Cheers!

[@Dazulolwarrior]

It's only ever worth retail, and maybe 10~15% above retail but no greater than that.

[@hittingreens5646]

It's worth whatever the market is willing to pay for it. So, you're wrong.

[@garyboyle695]

​@@hittingreens5646If you pay more, you're a fool.

[@SA17579]

@@Dazulolwarrior If you bought at the height of the market in 2022.....😱😭

[@BarryDalton]

It….like anything…is worth what a buyer is willing to pay. Not worth it to you. Fair. But if nobody was buying them at market price, the price would fall.

[@Dazulolwarrior]

​@@SA17579 don't worry I bought the ceramic Daytona from an AD so I paid retail HAHA

[@Mans1810]

There is no alternative to the Rolex Daytona 😅. It's amongst the slimmest automatique chronographe in the market. Even slimmer than manual omega chronographs.

[@DrEMichaelJones]

My wife took my SS zenith daytona from me and now wears it daily. Maybe I should get a Pitzmann 3.

[@snowashesfilm]

The problem with the Daytona, at least for me, having one. Is the attention it attracts. Non-watch people know it’s a hype piece with a heavy second market value. That makes it a bit stressful to wear as illintentioned people might want to steal it.

[@SA17579]

To me anyway, their current prices for all their watches is putting me off. I can understand a mark up for branding but.....🤣

[@user-vv1qm5dj9c]

It's a gorgeous watch but way, way over my budget given where it trades. For me, the DJ with a fluted bezel and blue or green dial on a jubilee epitomizes the best of Rolex. As others have commented, I am not compelled to pay above retail for it and if I never get the call, so be it. The obvious alternative imo is the Zenith Chronomaster but in titanium. It is not a substitute for the Daytona. I think it is better and I expect prices in the secondary will be very attractive.

[@theloniousmonkiv5982]

I have a blue Pitzmann 3 and i love it…. Looking forward to your review…

[@jayjoseph7]

Can you please share a link to the SK watch you're wearing?🙏

[@metro2171]

This watch is a must have in my collection and I will get one soon!!!

[@michaelbishop9157]

I know people always comments on the false scarcity games played by Omega and Rolex but I still think it's a beautiful watch and a pre-ceramic daytona remains a genuine grail watch for me

[@looseunit1615]

I really like the look of these watches, but, that's as far as I go. I can't bring myself to spend what effectively is a years wages for some people on a watch which does the same job of telling the time as a $20 Casio.

[@edjack1993]

Personally, I prefer the non-ceramic bezel. Ceramic bezel makes the watch look too wide, to my eye (an issue with most Rolexes since 2009…).

[@morgaph]

while the Daytona and even the tudars are far outside my budget , disability, i have focus my eye on 2 Seiko models. The sark003 with its lush Urishi Dial and the vintage Seiko Credor Phoenix chronographs. When you factor the price of not buying an Apple Watch they are worth the hunt.

[@timur9429]

I would get the newest from the AD because vintage is way too expensive. I rather get a new Daytona and a vintage Sub or 1016. Im sure I can get both for less than a hyped up vintage Daytona

[@alexwatchberg]

I am sure that I will need one, for sure! Paul Newman, hold my beer!

[@SamuelSam-q1l]

I purchased my Daytona 20+ years ago, after a sixth month waitlist, and for the $6,000 retail price. I totally agree on the polished center links being a scratch magnate.

[@cookingwithwatches]

Scratches gives more character to the watch

[@SamuelSam-q1l]

I own several vintage Rolexes and prefer the brushed finish on the oyster bracelets. The jubilee is not an issue.

[@cookingwithwatches]

@@SamuelSam-q1l back in the days watches were tools, today watches more like a jewelry. Some watches I prefer to be in pristine condition and others I don’t mind getting scratched. Milgauss Zblue is one of those that scratches makes the watch more attractive. Looking forward to wear and love my Milgauss just like you for the next 20 years 😊

[@SamuelSam-q1l]

The Daytona can be a little flashy, and personally, my favorite is the vintage GMT Pepsi. The scratches look good on it and the faded bezel has a history.

[@cookingwithwatches]

@@SamuelSam-q1l Pepsi with meteorite dial is my safe queen. The only watch I keep in pristine condition

[@MrEliwankenobi]

You know…. I was gonna comment about the Pitzmann III as a suggestion at the end of the video. LOL. Yes that watch looks very very good

[@loopbloke]

I want to buy 126506 platona, unless they release ceramic bezel in gold

[@ender1077]

Even the Pitzman is out of my price range for a lot of us.

[@alanwong5688]

The patrizzi is amazing

[@cookingwithwatches]

Had it, loved it, sold it. Bought Milgauss Zblue instead. In my opinion it’s just a better looking and more wearable watch.

[@aussieexpatwatches]

There's actually very easy to justify. Compare it to other "high end" grails and it's honestly unbeatable value, ruggedness and versatility.

[@Jay-xr3sb]

They sit in safes and banks. It maybe capable, but no on wear it unless they feel 100% safe from a mugging and it'll be scratch free.

[@aussieexpatwatches]

@@Jay-xr3sb I wear mine about 40% of the time. Helps to carry a gun 100% of the time 😄

[@Jay-xr3sb]

@@aussieexpatwatches glad I live in a place I don't need to carry!

[@wladimirbassett-torres7712]

The Seiko Prospex speedtimer panda at $700 will do just fine.

[@nicog.p3676]

I still prefer steel bezel. So classy….

[@HarryWeinberg007]

WE Love the 116520❤

[@petemorbius3936]

its going down...now less than 23k

[@gtman4588]

Since COVID if have learned to evaluate and place my desires into two catagories, need and want. If it is something that I need, then I do it or get it. If it is something that I merely want, then I pass. I put Rolex watches into that catagory, especially since the desired models can't be had from the ADs (so your option is the grey markety flippers to pay more money than retail). Plus now the added detriment of danger. If you wear the watch in public (in any large city) you are more likely than not to be robbed and/or killed over it. Just not worth it in my opinion. I don't need to impress anyone, and my cell phone has the time.

[@TradeMarcmultimedia]

alternative recommendations are fine, except when it comes to something Iconic.. then its just bad advice

[@thomaslinddal7251]

for me, there are only two chronographs I would want, and, its between Daytona or Speedy, and Speedy wins every time.

[@EdwardViaTomato]

I'm a Zenith kinda guy, but I still consider a moonshine Speedy as a grail.

[@DannyArcher32]

The Speedmaster lacks an automatic movement

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

Anyone who knows chronograph movement's will tell you that the Daytona movement. A vertical clutch chronograph movement is better than Cam operated. Anyone who tries to argue this is gonna look silly. The Daytona is a more robust Timepiece on all fronts

[@Herbf173]

I have a speedy and to be honest it's really not that comfortable on the wrist , gorgeous looking but rolex on the wrist another level you don't know its there , so comfortable

[@steelsteez6118]

​​@@Herbf173did you try a modern speedy on the new steel bracelet? I tried one on at the store and man oh man was it super comfy. The watch and bracelet melt onto the wrist (very short lug to lug at 47mm and thin at 13mm but technically feels thinner because the domed glass is most of the height). This is also coming from someone who adores the oyster bracelet. In my opinion, the only steel bracelet out there that's better than the oyster bracelet is Patek Phillipe's steel bracelet. The one the comes on the nautilus. Other than that, oyster is number 2. The new speedy bracelet is a very close contender though. If you haven't tried it on yet, I highly recommend checking it out..

[@scollyutube]

Yes you do 😊

[@barryvercueil2346]

I'd rather go Hanhart. Great video. Cheers.

[@betog.6229]

Never understood the hype behind this watch. It’s good looking, sure, but laughably overpriced and impossible to get for no good reason besides “Rolex”. I’d get sooooo many other chronos before this one any day of the week.

[@garyboyle695]

Made their own house movement, really? No, Aegler made the movement. I wish you watch tubers would stop that nonsense.

[@HarrisonElmore]

True, but 4 years later Rolex purchased Aegler, so I figured it would be easier to just skip that small bit of nuance. I try to keep the reviews as short as possible.

[@polygoncoco]

By that logic they didn’t make anything “in house”, since the oyster case wasn’t theirs until they bought it, the bracelets weren’t theirs until they bought them, etc etc.

[@EdwardViaTomato]

I'm just not a fan of Daytonas, and namely the modern ones. It's largely the epitome of Rolex just lopping on more and more nonsense over the years, which extends to a figurative sense as well. A "tool watch" that is exuberantly priced, wearable proportions that can be dangerous to wear, a damn haiku on the dial with a reminder that it was a NASA reject, crown guards to ensure you really never use it's whole purpose, a tachymeter for nothing more than show (as always), and it's the pinnacle of luxury branding built upon working class aspirations and sunk cost fallacies. It's like when people feel the need to put something against every wall or fill every open space in their home (and not out of necessity, e.g. lack of space). It's just really not my jam.

[@Maplecook]

Pagani PD1644 with the meteorite dial for me! hahahaha Rolex can keep its Daytona.

[@Dswatches]

For the price they go for at grey market … I’d get the Vacheron overseas … such a better watch all round

[@Sumerdini]

Steel bezel has much much more attractiveness IMO... Ceramic bezel 👎

[@EdwardViaTomato]

Steel is real. I don't like the Daytona but I'll at least respect one I see IRL being worn like it's a beater (or at least "tool watch") and not a babied, clout-chasing, box-queen, "investment". Same reason I like to see well worn gold watches (or watches with gold). It's like, "oh, they're on that level".

[@robynsjp]

To me, no match for a 1960s 321 Speedy. And definitely not a precious metal or gemstone version. I do love the Paul Newman 6239, but unattainable and still - to me a 321 remains unbeatable. But that's just me. Credit to Rolex in the divers department though, I have mighty vintage Subs and Seamaster300s, and the gilt Bart Simpson with altered lacquer and plexi bubble gives it a look - unique to each piece - you won't see on any modern Sub.

[@watch_dials]

The Daytona is the GOAT.

[@drticktock4011]

Good! I'll take it.

[@mrlong6267]

I’ll take my speedmaster over a Daytona any day of the week. Much more legible w unmatched history. And I don’t care about resell value since I keep every watch in my collection

[@xtr1092]

that is a 3k watch

[@TheBriansle]

The Daytona is timeless. and will always stand the test of time. Like the 1911 or Bitcoin of watches. other brands will come and go. Daytona like a reliable chronometer will be here forever.

[@drnick40]

Whoever agrees to pay above MSRP has to be checked by a psychiatrist. Honestly! Cars, watches, etc… Why? Buy a Zenith. Just as good if not better…

[@EdwardViaTomato]

I've got two EP 400 based Zeniths. Hi-beat, in-house, with over half a century of badassery going for them.

[@waynesilva3129]

Of course you don’t need it! 99.99% of Daytona owners never use the pushers. Unless your flight is delayed and you want something to play with while you’re waiting for your flight to start boarding. The other reason is pure bragging rights.

[@richardmorris7063]

Its gorgeous, but I'm not paying anything over the teens for one.

[@LulzRoyce]

Just get a panda black bay chrono and call it a day

[@TheBrah808]

Speedmaster is the answer

[@wonderwatch2239]

Can’t you just brush the Center links, job done 🤷‍♂️

[@garyboyle695]

In the flesh, for me it's very underwhelming. Put any other logo on it and it wouldn't sell half as well. I'd take a zenith over it all day long.

[@Slohoffman01]

Exactly

[@lonewolfemcquade8133]

I see you're comments shit talking Rolex all over the place. Rolex lives rent free in your head. For someone who doesn't like Rolex you surely like to talk about them

[@Slohoffman01]

@@lonewolfemcquade8133 You seem nice, and stable. Get help

[@RAJohnson713]

You need it.

[@arshdhadwal3408]

I think you need it.

[@vijaymehra1101]

Dont want one anymore...lots of other watches to buy at $20-35k

[@RB-xv4si]

If the Daytona is such a well-designed watch, as you say, then why does it pair a dial that has 1/5 second hash marks with a 4 Hz movement that is precise to 1/8 second? I think just based on this, the design is and always has been terrible.

[@kart182]

“Based on one singular issue, the entire thing is bad!”

[@joshuakaplan5726]

I actually thought you were wearing a Zenith! Daytonas are overhyped and overrated. Cooler chronographs out there, like IWC Pilot's Chronograph 41, Speedies, Navitimers, and Zeniths. Daytonas are only popular because they are unobtanium...if they were easier to get then people would care less about them

[@sb-hy5ir]

Ur stats on the screen are all wrong bro …

[@bensayles1541]

Absolutely no reason to buy a Daytona. A Speedmaster is just as good.

[@cocoyc495]

This is already overpriced at retail. As for the screw down pushers. Do people really use the chrono on this watch?😂

[@darrenc5563]

Rolex...another average watch meant for the average brand chasing middleclass men.

[@EdwardViaTomato]

For the discerning individual that really needs to know that _everyone_ else knows their watch was expensive... but also might need that money back, eventually.

[@SamuraiJackson]

​@@EdwardViaTomato THIS.

[@AssyMcgeeKicksAce]

sounds like some cope and seethe to me.

[@BarryDalton]

Def not average. They are very well made, technically advanced. Worth the money? That’s a personal thing. But they are great watches

[@alex5471]

*Omega

[@SeaBrownieNZ]

Don’t do it - to small bad chrono and to common

[@andychang7137]

Try to wear modern omega You will find Rolex watch looked so old and plain…

[@ЛентяйЁпта]

Chronograph is the most overrated complication in the biz

[@IsaacYu205]

Now it is distasteful to me to see it....

[@drdesign6886]

This watch - today - is about nothing more than showing off.

[@drkesrf]

The slim case is all it has going for it. The name is absolutely terrible. They should have called it the Le Mans if anything. Very overpriced.

[@donfentoni]

Lucky enough to be on a Panda waitlist. Most recent update was about 9 more months. This AD delivered a Batman to me at the market peak and I wear it regularly, so they trust I won’t flip the Panda either (which I won’t).

[@simonskoglund4790]

U definitely need it. Or u can gift it to me ;)

[@musiclover4311]

ZERO interest in Rolex and certainly, Rolex Daytona.

[@DonAl9114]

What’s the point of your video..? If you can’t afford to buy the Daytona, get something else. It’s only a watch , it tells time. Nothing else. I do own such a watch , but does this make one’s life better..? I don’t think so. A Daytona is a real luxury item. People buy it because they can. All other moan around about the price and long waiting list. Do yourself a favour and just ignore it. 😂😂😂

[@allanr.8727]

I am a Rolex enthusiast but not a Daytona.. for chronograph, i would prefer a Speedmaster or a Breitling chronomat..

[@brockadcock2735]

KZbin guys will do anything to get you to watch their entire video. He's got one thing... but he's gonna mention it at the end 😅

[@nuclearwinter391]

You really don't need it and it's not worth the price. Just buy a fake 🤠. I have a fake, nobody without a microscope can tell. Wearing a used watch is like screwing a chick 1 min after the last guy. I'd hate that.

[@BlackRiggerEBTWelfare]

Absolutely not worth the price. Especially from flippers

[@luckyluciano911]

👑 Daytona Ref.126506 🩵