I Don't Understand Sonic Robo Blast 2.

[@SpiderGoblin2012]

As someone who adores this game, I can attest to the depth perception problems. The flat sprites can be difficult to place is 3D, making it difficult to see where things are. Which is why I recommend turning on 3D models. If you go in the video settings and switch the renderer to OpenGL, there's an option in advanced settings (I think. Haven't played it in a while) to turn on 3D models. There are some built in, but I highly recommend downloading the Saturn Inspired model pack by Jeck Jims, which not only look amazing, but also includes support for several of the most popular mods. As for controls, I can't offer any advice for the new control scheme, having not played that update, but I do know that camera control is key. If you're playing on controller, map the jump and spin buttons to the bumpers so you can have your thumb on the right stick as much as possible, as you need to be able to turn it constantly to keep a good flow going. For any other control issues, I recommend checking out the Adventure Sonic character mod by Metalwario64, which not only gives you a homing attack and a revamped spin dash, but includes all the quality of life features those games had, like ledge grabbing, jumping after being hit, and stopping when you reach the edge of a bottomless pit, so you don't run off it and die. Honestly, really wish those features were in the game by default, but at least there's a way to put them in. SRB2 is a personal favorite of mine, but it does take some work to actually come to grips with, but once you get the hang of it, it's an amazing experience with tons of additional content to unlock, and endless potential through its modding scene. And if all these suggestions still don't make it work for you, at least you gave it a shot

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Thank you for your insightful input! I appreciate how understanding you guys are being!

[@evdestroy5304]

Jim Jeck's models ARE the ones built in lmao

[@SpiderGoblin2012]

@@evdestroy5304 I'm so stupid, I completely forgot about that-

[@TheLetterS_Rebooted]

​@@evdestroy5304 the ones in the vanilla games are from jeck jims put specifically only his models for the vanilla characters for modded characters like adventure sonic you need to actually download the models

[@evdestroy5304]

@@TheLetterS_Rebooted I'm aware

[@Jackal_Phantom]

To be frank the controls in the lastest updates isn’t the best, there is an option to change them to the more legacy version of the controls and it feels better. (In my opinion) from experience during the times I use to play srb2 a lot it did take some time getting use to the controls and that fun jazz..and the mods for the game are just wild

[@MiguelMustNerd]

The modding scene is in a league of its own fr

[@midi_feline]

Options > Player 1 Controls > Play Style > Manual

[@Randi_MyMan]

if you use this style, skill issue?

[@AleK0451]

the camera and controls can be fixed by using the classic controls with a keyboard and mouse, you can actually line up everything when you know you're always facing forwards and it being a doom engine game it just kinda feels like a way faster doom when you play it like this also it's kind of infamous at this point but you have to stop pressing any of the move keys while you're being sprung around a chain of springs or else you're guaranteed to miss

[@YOSHBAG]

This is definitely a game that gets better on subsequent playthroughs. It’s a hard game to get used to at first for sure.

[@OptimistoET]

One of the things in SRB2 that really gelled with me is the total lack of automation. It was very refreshing to play a 3D Sonic game without automation. Funnily enough, this can be to its detrement in the case of springs: you're supposed to let go of any directional inputs if you are in a "spring chain"

[@bowserbreaker2515]

This game is well made, but I also don't think it's the best Sonic fan game. Not only am I not the biggest fan of Classic Sonic, but I also just don't find there to be anything super special or cool about it. Project 06 is easily my favorite fan game.

[@TheLetterS_Rebooted]

The thing thats super special about it is thd mods and i usually hate it when people only care about a game for its mods but srb2 is an exception i genuinely almost never play the game completely vanilla

[@20000dino]

Seems like you're just biased against Classic Sonic. I myself prefer Classic Sonic, but I still appreciate and like a lot of Modern Sonic projects.

[@bowserbreaker2515]

@@20000dino I am, but I genuinely just don't see what other people do in this game. It's the same with Mania. Sure, it's well made. But I just don't see anything amazing about it.

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

I find it the best for VERY subjective reasons, so i guess i can say i don't understand why so many people that are probably not like me like the game so much too.

[@Hodger88]

Honestly thought this would be a critique on the level design, but it seems like you're having camera preference issues more then anything and blaming it on the game. You can tweak the automatic camera settings and toggle "orbital looking" to look up and down. you can have complete control of the camera without it moving automatically at all if you want, or enable strafing.

[@emrass7721]

Even though I disagree, I'm glad you made this video. It gets so tiring going online and seeing everyone like and dislike the same things as everyone else. Also for your issue with the camera, it helps to either bind it to the right stick on a controller, or use the mouse for both the camera and turning on keyboard.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Thanks for the tip! And though you disagree at least I could provide a refreshing opinion maybe? haha

[@CleverlyStoopid]

My biggest gripes with SRB2 is how unbelievably brutal it is to set up. The game sets you off with a very drunken camera and the base game is truly nothing compared to installing the right mods. Particularly so Sonic himself will control better by replacing his thok with a double jump or something similar. Once you tighten up the camera (I like to angle the camera to sit higher up looking down on the player for better judgement) It does come down to adapting to the movement feel. The movement is significantly heavier than your typical platformer. When I think of it now it really is, basically, classic momentum physics in 3D (Minus the differences in jumping behaviour). They're not unreliable controls, just heavy and do eventually become second nature in time. That's not to say that they aren't jarring at first. You may not feel it now but I as a (fed up and tired) sonic fan myself, can certainly assure you that this game is the real deal. It's one of my top 5 games period and arguably the best you'll see from Sonic the Blue Rat. Especially when you explore the fan levels and creations for it. I promise that this game will pay you back in truckloads if you stick around.

[@Shonin23]

If I’m honest the thok isn’t bad if you’re used to the game. But the reason people have issue with it is that everyone always plays Sonic first when Tails is recommended

[@ATHBizarre]

@@Shonin23fr. In some old updates it was stated that sonic isn’t for beginners. The thok is a a staple of srb2.

[@Shonin23]

@@ATHBizarre They should add the whole Sonic isn’t for beginners dummy type thing back, even though Tails’ bio says he’s for beginners

[@uranusjupiter6177]

> arguably the best you'll see from Sonic the Blue Rat. If you think that this unpolished and unintuitive mess of a fangame is the best of Sonic the Hedgehog, then you were never a real fan in the first place. To be honest, most of ya'll SRB2 glazers come off as frauds who hate Sonic outside of your weird little fangame that needs mods to make it an enjoyable experience. Y'all only get away with unnecessarily hyping up SRB2 because 1) most of nobody is checking for a Classic Sonic fangame like that 2) others live on the Sonic hate-train and will gladly lick up a lazy narrative like "only the fans can make a good Sonic game" to shill something they're not even invested in. SRB2 is a cute little fangame that becomes neat to play with mods but nothing more. The elitist community full of creeps, groomers, and toxic kids is swept under the rug which arguably comes from the devs' mentality themselves.

[@Shonin23]

@ “You’re not a real Sonic fan because you don’t have the same opinion as me and I’m always right” Bruh. And before you say I’m a glazer I HATE the narrative that fans will always make better stuff than the companies that own the IPs

[@shortnameswill]

2:00 Try using the Manual/Standard or Strafe mode, they make it MUCH easier to fully control your movement.

[@shadicboi4007]

the dang camera has to be the worst camera I've seen in a 3D game but its still a good game

[@Paper246]

Mario 64 camera: allow me to introduce myself

[@papermacheman2210]

For your own sake never play any From Software

[@AleK0451]

@@papermacheman2210 tbf that's more the fault of some bosses being way too big for the camera's fov, they even zoom it out in some ds3 fights and it's still not enough

[@MacUser2-il2cx]

It actually kind of works.

[@ovatails]

you can change it

[@sorrydudebros]

As a fan of this game since my childhood I can say more than a few things. -You chose to play as Knuckles and I think he's easily the least fun out of Sonic, Tails and himself. His tiny jump and glide landing recovery make him sluggish for not much benefit besides having the glide and climb at all, which most levels aren't designed around. I'd only recommend him after learning the level layouts by playing as Tails or Sonic & Tails since the way the camera locks while climbing is super annoying. -With M&K you can move your camera however you please, and as another commenter pointed out you have 2 other control options that change how the camera is. Not saying you should only use M&K, but controller choice affects the experience a lot. -I get confused by CEZ too, but the zones following are the most interesting in the game. It feels like the game gets better and more intense to speed through with every level until ERZ, which is meant to be a gauntlet of challenges to test your skill so I can forgive it for not being as fast-paced everywhere.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I chose to play as Knuckles with my second playthrough(the one I recorded) with my first I chose Sonic, and because I didn't enjoy how he controlled(and really REALLY dislike the thok) I chose Knuckles next time around.

[@Doxthefox]

@@MiguelMustNerd you’ll get used to the thok, it can really help with bottomless pits and it can make going through the level faster, and even if it’s harder to just spam it than just running it will improve your record alot, and the thing that makes sonic so good is that you have to master the speed. And also I prefer the thok than the homing attack since not only it give you momentum, but that you have to actually have to master hitting enemies

[@Doxthefox]

@@MiguelMustNerd also you don’t have to use the thok

[@Shonin23]

Personally I love the customisation and it is the best Sonic game for me. Haven’t got 100% but I come back to it at least like 3 times a week. It’s fun to play with friends as well. I personally feel like the game might not be for you but using models will help with the depth perception thing

[@FluppietheRockruffFan]

Well, from my experience of seeing of the game in it's 2.1 era only a few times, and never having the guts to play it but finally getting the courage to do so in the current 2.2 era, was one of the best feelings of my life, and mods made it fly even higher, and the fact this was even made on doom is insane, It's good to see humble people like you talk about games like this the way you do!

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Thanks! I appreciate that!

[@TheLetterS_Rebooted]

Theres an option in the setting to allow you to look in a full 360 degrees (options > player 1 controls > mouse options > "third-person mouselook" > turn it on and if your on controller then instead of mouse options go to gamepad options > "third-person vert-look" > on and finally to make it slightly less disorienting go back < then go into camera options instead > orbital looking > on) personally Ive always found it to be disorienting even with orbital looking on but it may be defrent for you though if you do use it turn open gl and models on because in software the game gets funky when you try to look too far up

[@Beastmd]

I wish the physics and control was more like an adventure game, it would make the game goat tier

[@Doxthefox]

Adventure Sonic would be up your alley then, and also the game will have momentum in the future for its next major update along with the level design being focused on it

[@genyakozlov1316]

What would make the game god tier is if they reverted everything to how it was in 2008. I die a little each time I'm forced to look at or listen to the latest version. They took a fan game with unique solemn atmosphere and turned it into Sonic Mania style slop.

[@Doxthefox]

@@genyakozlov1316 lmao why are you commenting on this comment, and what are you even talking about this game has it’s own art style and atmosphere, and also mania came out way later than 2008 like nearly a decade later

[@dannynicholson6014]

​@genyakozlov1316 the ost in the new version of srb2 is so much better than the old midi shit 😂😂😂

[@Doxthefox]

@@dannynicholson6014 I do kinda like some of the things in the old music, it kinda feels like an entirely different game

[@CassiusStelar]

Its not for you and thats ok. A lot of those spring issuses is because you keep holding forward. Angled springs are meant to be an automatic spectacle but it doesnt take your control away just in case you want to bail out like a classic or adventure loop skip Also everyone keeps telling you to use mouse and keyboard but fuck that. Just map camera center to LB and use simple controls with controller. Hell I saw the lock on arrow in a clip you had

[@SLvoid9]

You simply cannot robo blast the 2

[@xycord2770]

When playing as knuckles, pressing spin while climbing allows you to jump off a wall without changing the camera perspective. Also the camera has different settings to accommodate players: these can be found in the player control settings.

[@samiiscool8181]

For me the best thing in every sonic game is the time attack experience and I love time attacking this game

[@dancingvalkyrie]

Decreasing the acceleration, replacing the air dash with a double jump, and increasing control when spinning into a ball legit makes the game way more fun than the standard experience.

[@mr.shplorb662]

I mostly enjoy the wealth of mods

[@ThemFish75]

Honestly my setup is pretty simple: 1. Play with 3D models. it’s as simple as it sounds, turning on 3D models in your OpenGL settings fixes a lot of the depth problems mentioned in the video 2. Install a physics mod, I know some people like the controls SRB2 has but I personally was not one of them. SRB2 actually shares a lot of problems Sonic 1 on the Genesis/Megadrive had. The base run speed has a very low speed cap, rolling has a low top speed and a poor turning radius, and the second you jump you return to your regular run speed. This makes the game feel very slow as Sonic does not have a nice flow state between rolling down hill and running back onto flat ground. 3. Increase the sensitivity of the camera, I personally am a controller player and have always had a very high camera sensitivity. This is mainly because if not, chances are you will often run into walls or cut the corner before you can see what’s ahead. (Bonus) 4. Controls, I personally decided to take as much from the Genesis originals this game is based on as possible, having a charged Spindash rather than a held down one, drop dash, super peel-out and insta-shield. Having all these new abilities comes at the cost of easy control, my solution? Put the roll button on the left bumper of the controller. I know it sound odd but with the Genesis style Spindash it feels amazing, basically holding down the left bumper and spamming the three jump buttons in my case X, A, and B

[@fonsales5373]

I respect your opinion. But I can at least help you with the camera. Simply: Use. The. Mouse. It's more accurate than just tapping on that one keyboard to make 45° and don't worry if you think the camera will looking up. Because it's setted only to look left or right. It's also worth to mention that some people is modifiing their jump and spin on their mouse too. (jump=lmb and spin=rmb) and I am not exception. You will probably not gonna play this game again, but if you will, customise it in that way. It feels better than just using the keyboard.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

That actually sounds like a good configuration. Thanks for the input, I may have to give that a go!

[@fonsales5373]

@@MiguelMustNerd thanks. I've been playing this game since 2021. So I have some knowledge of this game.

[@apersoniguess_]

yeah no the platforming challenges can kinda suck eggs, especially in egg rock where they push it to the limit with narrow platforms, which with the slippery controls are a nightmare to traverse. Any chance I get I cheese those sections with super forms, modded character abilities, or whatever else because precise platforming isn't what this game does very well, I think

[@FOOLYCOREY]

for once someone in this community says they dont understand the game rather than saying its a bad game. anyways, id say use the 3d models instead bc the 2d sprites fuck up the depth perception. also best way to control the game is with keyboard n mouse bc, holy shit, i tried using a controller and it felt so weird

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Yeah haha! I played on controller my first playthrough and that was kinda awkward so with my second run(the one I recorded) I used keyboard and mouse, and I do agree it is a bit more manageable

[@ZenoEditz.]

Listen I haven’t played this game but just looking at it I think this art style is beautiful

[@MiguelMustNerd]

It is a good looking game for sure!

[@porkyblack6396]

heres some recommendations for getting a better experience this wont change it too much but it might help you might want to turn on hardware render as this helps depth perception as does 3D mode which make things have 3D models a controller might help to

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I have played with both keyboard and controller and for me, controller is more awkward haha

[@dprototype6431]

I wish the game didn’t give me really bad motion sickness. I also wish some of the level design wasn’t so labyrinthine.

[@hogthenormalguy]

"I can't even spindash in a straight line" Uhh did you check the options for the camera?

[@ashleywhite8888]

if you get stun-locked by a level so to speak, go to no-save, play the game through to that level, learn to flow through levels better, and then blow past the level you were stuck on. that's how i always did it when i was getting used to the game, and it's part of the entire reason i like the game.

[@Catwins]

i reccomend playing with keyboard and mouse and standard/strafe control mode as the game was more designed around it

[@Montaser144]

I see the problem: you're just not using a mouse for the camera! Yeah eggman castle is not the easiest and it annoyed me somewhat less than i enjoyed it and the atmosphere but it's okay if you don't like it after this simple movement solution, everyone has a level they less than enjoy in any game. Watching the video what i understood from you is that you don't like the movement and the clanky camera, but (the way i see it) you can navigate throughout the levels much easier if you control the camera with your mouse and use one hand for the other controls. And you can change the field of view in the options too! And if you don't like the movement of the base roster; you can play the whole game with a modded character that feels right for you abd nothing's wrong with that. There's a SA1/SA2 sonic (who's better off without the mouse controlled camera) and he's fully customizable in terms of colors and effects, and hus movements are fun and easy to digest for anyone and i bet you'll like him. If you still don't like the game even after all of that, then maybe your taste is just different and nothing is wrong with that. Those are all the improvements i could suggest for you and you can take your time with everything. It's just a game, for fun. If after all of that if it's not fun then why bother?

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Heh, good ol' Reggie quote

[@2ndspringtube708]

Tbh I never play this game without adventure sonic mod ,I beat it once without mods(never to do it again YOUR SPEED CAN VERY EASILY GET KILLED EVEN IN THE FIRST LEVEL) and I mostly now play custome stages ,some are pranks ,some are better then the vanilla game in my opinion,and mostly adventure sonic breaks them

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I respect that, I was aiming to enjoy the game as close to the original experience as possible to try and jive with the core of what it was. Maybe that wa5the best way to go.

[@HYPERSPEED609]

( I Don't Understand Sonic Robo Blast 2 ) Me either

[@Gunsandrosy]

It's funny how I gagged and sighed when you said, "The game needs to feel rewarding and fun to control" when you were right. It shows my bias for the game since I've been playing it on and off since 2006 when I was still a high schooler. That being said, bear with me. I agree with the idea of expecting a game to play like the game it shows on the marquee, that being a Sonic game. Playing SRB2 doesn't feel natural-it feels completely different from games like Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 or even Heroes and 06. The way Sonic and friends accelerate from 0 to 100 at the tip of a hat can be jarring and when momentum becomes jarring then Sonic becomes less fun. When people say SRB2 isn't fun to play I often get the same answer as the above-mentioned (with variations on such) so I can understand. But I'll tell you exactly what I tell everyone else: you need to stop playing it as if it were a Sonic game. When I tell people this it doesnt inspire much confidence and that's okay. People want to play something familiar when they're exploring a game based on a preestablished IP. But those who actually do bother to listen often end up having a, well, robo blast. If you get my meaning. Filler aside, you need to start playing it as if it were an FPS. Learn to strafe, adjust to the camera look, and turn your mouse keys into your jump and spin buttons. That's when you truly gain control of the game.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

This is a similar approach to how I came to enjoy Sonic 3D Blast. by Not playing it as if it were a Sonic game XD

[@Doxthefox]

You should go to settings, there’s so much options there like the camera position and the field of view, 3d models, orbit camera, keyboard bindings and different controllers, and even things like flipping the camera in levels like egg rock when the level puts you upside down, and so much more that you literally have to just look what each one does. And along with that play as characters other than knuckles like tails or sonic and tails to make it easier to traverse some stages like castle egg (you ah e to be next to tails as sonic, jump and then press the spindash button to fly),and after playing doing that play the game as intended and learn the level design more and t try to find ways to go faster.

[@Doxthefox]

Oh and also one final suggestion, put the spin button on the left click button on your mouse

[@MarioWithTheCrowbar]

As a person who played the whole game as Sonic and Tails, yeah this sucks. Especially last levels

[@guacamolenightmaretv7720]

I thought it was unanimously agreed that tank controls in 3D platformers aren't good so I'm surprised that more people don't take issue with it.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Honestly same, I always figured the more fluid the movement the better.

[@alescano3504]

Wait, does SRB2 have tank controls? You can move in any direction without the need of steering

[@Ederlezizz]

This game just gives me a headache lol

[@kirbgreen]

then turn on models

[@k0bino]

I am getting a headache watching the gameplay right now 😭

[@kirbgreen]

@@k0bino your able to turn on 3d models of that helps you

[@RandomHomoSapiens]

that's probably motion sickness (it happens with me too)

[@TheGreatFoxDeity]

Genuinely trying to be helpful here in hopes you'll give this game another chance. If you're using a gamepad, you can fix the slippery feeling by turning up your analog dead zone. I use a PS5 controller and have it set to 0.25. You can also adjust the camera distance and height to help with depth perception and turn on orbital looking. I set my triggers to look up and down and you the right stick for left and right, sounds confusing but it's not. Lastly turn off all automatic camera options. Optionally you can use OpenGL and turn 3D models on that should help a lot. I know this comment is late but I hope you see it and try to get this game bc there is so much to enjoy between the base game and all the fan made maps and characters. ❤️

[@joshwillcox7141]

Haven't played it myself but even I noticed the jump height seems extremely low and doesn't look that fun platforming with that depth perception.

[@cascade969]

Finally someone who agrees it's not as good as some people say it is lol. Edit: Before I'm attacked, I don't mean it's BAD, but I swear if I hear "SRB2 is still the best Sonic fan game." one more time I SWEAR-

[@SonicZuki]

Srb2 is the best Sonic fan game better then any other Sonic fan I played

[@theraymunator]

it is though lol

[@Furantssu]

Srb2 is the best sonic fan game in my opinion

[@Sillybilly-e7i]

@@SonicZukiI used to think that until I played sonic world dx

[@sonictheblockhog5780]

​@Heybigdaddy sonic world DX kinda is mid tbh

[@zebulan1485]

For controls, you should absolutely switch to the "Manual" Play Style. The auto-camera in the default "Automatic" Play Style is more intrusive than helpful, in my experience, and I think it was probably a mistake to have that selected by default... it was an attempt to appeal to casual players who aren't used to games like SRB2, but I think it tends to have the opposite of its intended effect. It's also worth noting that (unless you've remapped the controls yourself), "Manual" maps jump and spin to the bumpers, allowing your right thumb to always be on the camera stick, and it makes the thok always launch you in the direction the camera is facing. This is the ideal way to play with a controller. (And if you start using custom characters that use additional buttons, I recommend mapping Custom 1 and Custom 2 to clicking the left and right analog sticks, so you can do even more without having to take your thumbs off the sticks.) That said, if you can play with a keyboard/mouse... do that. Much like Minecraft, SRB2 is a game that works best with a high-precision, manual camera, and there aren't really any benefits to using a left analog stick in this game, for the same reason that the left analog stick is not ideal in a 2D Sonic game. WASD is the way to go for character movement. I found that learning the physics was easier when I thought of controlling speed as simply knowing how long to hold W and when to switch to tapping or holding S. I also recommend turning on the OpenGL renderer and enabling 3D models to improve depth perception. The OpenGL renderer currently doesn't look as nice in some cases (since it lacks palette-limited color rendering), but it's the only way to use the more advanced camera options without running into weird perspective (or lack thereof) issues, and some mods require it anyway. The OpenGL renderer also makes it possible to enable vertical camera movement (though I find the camera much easier to control without it). I also recommend enabling orbital looking so that the camera is centered on the player instead of behind the player... the default camera position makes sense for the Software renderer with 2D sprites, but if you're using the OpenGL renderer with 3D models, orbital looking is probably more intuitive. In general, I recommend fiddling with all the camera/control options. There's way, way more than most games. You can change the camera distance and offset, adjust sensitivity, and remap pretty much every button. Also, pretty much everyone enables the flip-camera-with-gravity option... for reasons that will become very obvious if you ever make it to the end of the game. And yeah, as another commenter pointed out: you may find the Adventure Sonic character mod easier to start off with, since it has much tighter controls and a couple tricks (homing attack, ledge grab, etc.) to make platforming easier. Oh, and one more thing about the physics: the weirdest part is the mid-air acceleration... after the first second, you start to accelerate rapidly. There are some sections that you might think you need the thok to clear, but you can actually just hold forward after jumping. (And don't forget that your jump height depends on how long you held the jump button, and also that you can do spindash jumps off a slope in this game.)

[@MiguelMustNerd]

Hey wow this is really helpful! Thanks!

[@ChristianPhil-j8h]

You need to mod it imo it’s lots of fun to break the game with characters your not supposed to

[@xycord2770]

Srb2's controls take getting used to before you can control the characters well. I'd recommend you try the in-game tutorial.

[@IkinBBfromAnthologyOfTheKiller]

About the control thing, i felt the same. I reccomend putting the jump button on the left mouse button and roll on right, and turning on manual mode. It takes a little to get used to but it controls really, REALLY well. Like, this is more of a keyboard and mouse game than a controller/touchscreen game. And i understand the depth percetion thing with the sprites, but i think that can be fixed with the 3D models which i think are built-in so i reccomend trying that too. But yah, either way not for everyone, i getcha

[@Espurr.8]

Dang i play on controller and i never had a problem with my controls my experience with the game some of the level and character mods surprise me with how good there were

[@BurntRavi07]

You bring up some good points. Even though I love SRB2 a lot it’s not the “Best Sonic Fangame of all time” it’s great but not the best.

[@jraulerson3081]

I like the visual style in this game. Love it, in fact, but this has to be for me one of those Sonic titles I can say I 'got through' rather than really enjoyed. I appreciate this project for being so ambitious and I'm sure it has a massive following of supporters. I just wish I could like the game play as much as they do.

[@_josie.07]

Well it really falls upon what you’re using, a keyboard or a controller. There is control and camera options for both found in the settings which aim to make playing more cohesive. Automatic is for controller and manual is for keyboard and mouse. Of course controlling gets better with practice and that’s what made it fun for me trying to master the game. But regardless 3d platformers, especially for one as fast as sonic, may not bet a game for everyone.

[@TheIndigoShine]

This game is boring after replaying it. It has nothing beside mods and online to be fun. The controls suck no matter what setting because they are not fine for platforming, beating the game yields relieve only to unlock the absolute worst levels under the "challenge" category and some mediocre Nights levels. •Pum-I mean Haunted Height has you dealing with spikes and that awful goo from techno hill with a glorified reference that becomes an obnoxious enemy. •Aerial Garden is absolutely the worst and it's barely possible to even traverse it with some characters, you're immediately dunked on it after beating the prev zone with Metal and you have stupid hoard of wasp enemies harassing you all the time while you're demanded platforming in small platforms. • The Azure Temple. It's all you could have in this game but worse. And people think Labyrinth is shit. This is the worst and most generic water temple ever with the worst challenges imaginable and the slowest feel because characters could not fall slower in water. Also so much praise but why is this game using a redering engine that can barely support high resolution 3d by default? And have been the game at the absolute highest render distance. The engine is old and it clearly struggles with things but the devs didn't think to make any changes to the config. This game can't look so pixelated and hard to look like there is no point on trying to look this retro because it doesn't harm the beautiful limited crafted environment with just mip-mapping, it even improves framerate, some anisotropic filtering be nice, if the game even f bothered to save that one setting specifically correctly but f me I guess. The music is nice tho. But paired with the experience of falling and falling when the music keeps it's merry tunes along doesn't even prompt me to listen to it no more. I've tried to love this game. Twice. But I can't. F me if you want, send me to another dimension, but I don't think Sonic Robo Blast 2 is a good game on it's own.

[@uranusjupiter6177]

I enjoy online sometimes but the fact that the netgames are full of either oddly pretentious 30 year olds, chronically online racist trolls like the "Jisk" character, or just meme brainfried kids really turns me off. It's like no well-adjusted person actually interacts with the online multiplayer side outside of joining and dipping out. Trying to interact with such icy, arrogant, or hyperactive weirdos is impossible. Gives me the same vibes as another game I've played with a cult following and a loud fanbase that pretends its better than other games within the same genre.

[@TheIndigoShine]

@uranusjupiter6177 Yeah! It's ridiculous! That's the main thing about the Sonic Fan base tho. It's chaos! Honestly those 30 year old have probably been for a long time, and even then you could shit in the game even more! It looked terrible. It's first demo was so scuffed, it must be a really hard to develop game... I can tell, but nothing was clearly well planned from the beginning. And then they did start planning. They were doing a 3D game for free in the 90's! That's insane! To be honest it's kind of a miracle that the game still exists. But what a mess...! I look forward to the developers being free and creating an open source and great fan game! They can't do it. What the must is be themselves! This is their game. Every developer's game is theirs unless they're working for an IP. Sonic Robo Blast 2 simply uses an IP... But it doesn't contribute to it, it's for the community not a product for SEGA. They can do what they want, however they want, as long as it's well intended.

[@CypherShanilver]

​@@TheIndigoShinei agree the levels are mid ok mid so i just add a bunch of mods

[@SweepV]

Well... there will be the 2.3 update and it probably overamps the physics, i'm not sure.

[@Eniggma39]

*Playing with pixels instead of 3D models* Oh no…

[@the_dommo]

all the camera issues you’ve been having can be solved by changing the control mode from “standard” to any of the other options. (if you’re using a keyboard) i realize that you have many other issues that are valid, but idk just felt like mentioning that

[@MaskMan1Official]

Someone port robo blast to the GBA cause that’s what it feels like to play this game

[@IamAVeryNormalSonicEnjoyer]

Are you trying to say this game is the worst? Boi, say that again, and i'll force you to play sonic 06

[@MaskMan1Official]

@@IamAVeryNormalSonicEnjoyer If you like this game than good for you, I just don’t really like how to game controls, though I do really like sonic robo blast 2 kart and I think that game is pretty good

[@sonc07]

@@IamAVeryNormalSonicEnjoyer I don't dislike srb2 but I will happily play sonic 06 if told to, I don't find it that bad

[@NoNamex1412]

It's only good for the characters mods. The base game is kinda mid. It is a fun game to have on a phone though to blast through the first few levels when you have nothing to do

[@suroguner]

were you playing with controller or Keyboard and mouse?

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I have played both.

[@NatetheNintendofan]

OMG, IT'S GLABEOR. I hope THEY unban you. the community is getting bad, but the game is good. Why did they ban sandwich face?He was telling the truth. And I feel bad for mystic.Poor guy keeps getting talked about.He made a good mod #savesrb2 #nustjr

[@normalgraham]

It's my favorite game but I can see where you might not like it if you're having trouble breathing just talking about it

[@supercamborg4218]

What’s your opinion on Sonic GT?

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I do not currently have one, have not played it myself.

[@supercamborg4218]

@@MiguelMustNerd I find it fun to just try stunts and stuff in. Not the best 3D fangame but it’s a fun one

[@talltailslol]

With the camera issues you discussed and what your footage of this game looks like, you're probably playing on the "automatic" camera setting. If you want a better camera, I recommend playing on strafe, the og camera setting. You'll probably have a much better time with the camera!

[@SamuelOOuriço2]

Physics mods.

[@naivecheddar]

ok dude, first off turn on opengl and 3d models, it will fix SO MANY of the issues you pointed out, the thing with the spindash is actually because of the sprites, even if its displaying the forward facing sprite, you could still technically be facing slightly to the right in ur position, turning on 3d will fix this issue, and with castle eggman? yeah thats just a massive skill issue im not gonna sugarcoat it, i also understand the camera complaint, its a bit odd sometimes

[@Doritoproduction69]

I feel like after bro made this video he got banned in every related srb2 discord server known to mankind

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I might have, haven't checked to see XD

[@brandondyer6546]

I just want a console port already.

[@redvelvetspiders3596]

Looking forward to more videos from you! Please keep making more!

[@peckneck2439]

It's not about how the game controls or feels. IT's about base game content. It sucks. Stages are confusing and annoying to traverse to, and the base characters aren't that fun to play as either except for Tails as his flight makes platforming and exploration of these confusing stages easier. But the moment you install some level and character mods the game changes entirely and it becomes unironically goated. Playing as X Sonic in SRB2's version of Speed Highway or Adventure Sonic and playing throught 06's stages was one of the most fun times i had in a sonic game ever.

[@james_-zx2be]

Turn on 3D player models for better depth perception

[@RUFFLES5]

have you tried playing through the game as sonic or tails? i see alot of newcomers choose knuckles for their first playthrough and knuckles much harder to play as compared to sonic and tails

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I played Knuckles in my 2nd playthrough(the one you see in the video) with my first I played as Sonic and couldn't really stand how he handled(especially the thok)

[@RUFFLES5]

@@MiguelMustNerd yeah that's understandable

[@asdfparody]

look... ima try be good, the camera is actualy really good thx to the mause being able to move it, but i must admit the first time it was strange but like in less that a minute it was allready easy to understand and the depth perseption i can try to undertand but they are manny fixes of it like turning on the low poli models that make all the game 100% 3D and helps if you dont see right but yea at least for me, a amazing game whit good controls

[@Rrplayfr]

Mouse and keyboard to the win

[@josephfurry1014]

Sonic world DX keeps crashing for me 😔

[@MiguelMustNerd]

That is an honest shame, it's become my fav Sonic game in general. I wish it could work for you.

[@Totallyoffical-lego_broly]

Honestly I don’t like the game because of 2 reasons 1 is because of castle Eggman boss because it’s just honestly to difficult for a 4th boss and egg rock act 1 which is a try not to move your camera challenge literally you get no time to move your camera

[@Kookie_13_]

It promises a 3d classic sonic game but gives you a overly difficult for no reason 3d platformer with sonic ish controls Wept running on walls is completely impossible you just fall off and the camera sucks

[@Benjie6424]

i havent watched the video yet but please just play with keyboard and mouse on the manual play style. it’s how the game has always been meant to play. the simple style is made for controllers, but controllers suck for srb2. i also find sonic’s thok fun to master. the game doesn’t tell you how to use it very well, but i’d recommend watching speedruns of the game to see how to use it well. vanilla srb2 is so good imo, idk why people only think it’s good with mods

[@nadynegraciapierre5713]

Nah blue don’t understand just see tutorial to how to play it in game bruh don’t ask us :/

[@naivecheddar]

also all the footage ur showing is playing as knuckles, which is a TERRIBLE idea when first playing

[@kirbgreen]

i can agree with you in some parts like the camera control but maybe try to turn the models on it might help you with the game

[@FischerKingg]

My problem is that the level designs are awful. Only really the first zone is fun to play. But i think the special stages for the most part are pretty good

[@amiano59e4]

volcano zone my most hated 💔

[@IamAVeryNormalSonicEnjoyer]

Techno hill act 2, my beloved ❤

[@meno3104]

ACZ Is peak tho

[@TomWoop]

Judging by just the thumbnail and name, yeah I agree. Bored me immediately.

[@Zerosaber91]

Since I made a crappy comment about how I am the king of hot takes a month ago, I'd like to give some valid criticism. Nobody likes SRB2 without mods. You'll see most people play the vanilla game with adventure or modern sonic because base game requires really high skill which also requires like... 1 year of experience. They also use some momentum mods which... make the game better in their heads? You really need to dig deep into some servers and their mod files to find good qol mods which nobody's gonna do. Base game standalond has it's shining moments like Techno Hill 2, Castle Eggman 1 (for an experienced players which can do basic bandik bouncing) and Red Volcano. Anything else... decent, I guess. But no need to even look back to vanilla when I have 80 mods (I'm not exaggerating, this game has more mods than generations) on my PC. But if you had big problems with the base game and couldn't adapt to controls, no momentum or character mod will save your experience. Game feels like it was made with speedrunning on mind so it only is hell of a fun when you're time attacking and... you need high skill. That's all I had to say. I can see why people don't likd this game. I didn't touch on ice physics since I see no ice physics. You can let go of the controller to stop on a dime. But hey, at least Sonic World DX is a really good game that both you and I can enjoy.

[@MacUser2-il2cx]

it's a good game. Here's how to play it. Did you ever play a game that's able to switch between first person and third person and have you ever pulled the camera all the way out like in a racing game? Think of it like that. Sonic Robo Blast 2 was made with the Doom Engine and in a way still plays the same way. You are turning left and right but the camera is pulled all the way out. That's how i figured it out, anyway.

[@darkkirby714]

ok but Dr. Robotniks Ring Racers is better

[@NoNameBuddy99]

FINALLY, SOMEONE SAID IT!

[@gamingboi6053]

It’s better using a keyboard and mouse

[@cintiamelo9240]

you don't need to like it just respect the others opinions

[@Uncompromising_Mode]

Oh no, controller user. This game is ass on controller, mouse and keyboard with left click jump and right click spin is 100% the way to go. You can steer your movement using the mouse.

[@meno3104]

That's a big disagreement, I prefer playing this on a controller more than playing this on a Keybord & mouse.

[@Uncompromising_Mode]

@@meno3104 You do you, but its a worse option with less control, worse camera, and worse precision.

[@noww446]

I generally do not understand how people play games on keyboard and mouse I can't for the life of me even complete the second level of Doom using wasd 😭😭😭

[@apersoniguess_]

@@noww446 wasd, camera controls with the mouse so most of the time I really only have use the w and s keys, spin on left click and then anything else is sort of unnecessary for offline vanilla play. Trust me I don't get how people play alot of games on keyboard either with all their hotkeys and whatnot, but disregarding addons and custom gamemodes the controls I found are very simple on keyboard I disregard addons and custom gamemodes because dude have you SEEN how many buttons there are- tossflag, fire, firenormal, and more- it's ridiculous, I have the "fire" action bound to right click since it's commonly used for basic attacks in some online gamemode, and custom 1, 2 and 3 are on q, e/x, and c respectively, anything else is too far for me to reach to be useful to me

[@evdestroy5304]

If the movement is too hard for you, play as Tails. If you want an experience closer to the Adventure games, try the Adventure Sonic addon. The mouse and keyboard are also better than controller, no idea why they changed the default. If you do use M+KB, use either either Standard or Strafe controls. You can also enable 3D models in the OpenGL settings to help with depth perception.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

I feel that many people are missing that I wanted to experience the game as close to the original intended experience as possible. I wanted to see if I could enjoy the core essence of Robo Blast 2, no addons, no mods, no alterations. Just me and the original vision of the game.

[@evdestroy5304]

@MiguelMustNerd Strong disagree, half of the SRB2 experience is addons. Support for them is built into and officially supported by the game itself, it's not like you have to install a mod loader or anything. If there's an addon that makes the game play better for you and you're choosing to ignore it, aren't you just making the game worse off for yourself? Regardless, if you're 100% against using addons, like I said before, use Tails. He can fly, and like all the other classics, he is designed for beginners. Like every Sonic game, there is a learning curve to the movement. Once you play enough, the controls do eventually click. No one in this comments section was great at SRB2 on their first playthrough.

[@MiguelMustNerd]

@@evdestroy5304 If playing the game pure vanilla is making the game "worse" then I think that says more about the game ngl

[@evdestroy5304]

@MiguelMustNerd It doesn't. It just means you don't like it. People have different tastes. That's why I specified "play better for *you."*

[@banzaidoesthings]

Azure Temple is the worst thing about this game. That's all I have to say.

[@meno3104]

Bs Level

[@oakative7603]

i couldnt agree more

[@evdestroy5304]

AGZ Fang Emblem:

[@AyaxTheDragon]

Sorry but skill issue

[@SuperSign64]

i dont agree with you until i have to play deep sea also i have to not agree with you since i've been playing srb2 for like years so its not difficult to me

[@shadicboi4007]

nvm this game is awesome

[@futureson122]

The problem is YOU not wanting to learn the game, i know its hard to understand but you didn't even TRY to learn you just played it 2 times and said "yeah its not for me" and i get it srb2 isnt for everyone its for people who actually try to learn than criticise stuff

[@midi_feline]

I don't want to learn SA2

[@NatetheNintendofan]

I change the dislike to a like The game. Is good , but the community is not good And they are making the game worse. The community is toxic. Look at what they did to glabor and sanswich face

[@Zerosaber91]

This game feels like it survived three atomic bombs. Gameplay being hard to adapt into, community being sh*t and developers making the worst decisions possible. Next thing you're gonna tell me is they're gonna accept a 3 second level into OLDC, lol. Wait a second... WHAT THE ACTUAL SH*T! WHAT!

[@Tom-jg9de]

I think sobo blast is overrated but a still a solid game just not the best sonic fan game that some pepole say

[@forbiddensuper2369]

Skill issue

[@Oc_TheGrunt]

Imo, srb2 is probably the most overrated sonic fan game. I agree with your points with the characters feeling so slippery and the depth perception being really bad (although enabling 3d models do help with this). Honestly, most my complaints with this game would have been fixed by a homing attack and before you say "ohh classic sonic cant have a homing attack" but sonic utopia has a homing attack and I don't see anyone complaining about that. Yes I know this was built on the doom engine but if theres a modern sonic mod that adds the homing attack, so I don't get why there is none.

[@evdestroy5304]

Use the Adventure Sonic mod, or play as Tails

[@Zerosaber91]

Just gonna be honest, this is my favorite Sonic game, official or otherwise. (Haven't played Adventure 2 or Frontiers yet) And anyone saying it's just a fangame, well it's more than a passion project. Money was put into this.

[@liamtheshow]

just install some movement mods or a character mod like modern sonic there are a lot of mods that can fix your gripes about the game