I Drive The VinFast VF8 For The First Time! And I Really Wish I Didn't...

Kyle and Alyssa are in Las Vegas checking out the new VinFast VF8 electric SUV.
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0:00 - Hello & Welcome
2:31 - Exterior Tour
12:48 - Interior Tour / Software
28:02 - Full Throttle Ride & Highway Test
34:26 - Level 2 EVSE
35:01 - Kyle's First Drive
40:58 - Final Thoughts / Summary
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[@KyleConner]

Where to begin: I went into this with a very open mind. As you can see there’s a lot to like about the car when it’s static. Where it really falls apart is when you start driving! The beeps and bongs are overactive and going non stop (for nothing), there’s no way to disable voice commands which comes up constantly, the suspension is quite firm on small impact areas but softer and livable under normal undulations, there’s NO WAY it has 400hp and the power isn’t consistent, the noise on the highway is nearly unbearable, and non-working lane centering / cruise control + all of the rattles make this a non-starter for a trip. The brake feel, in my short drive, was extremely vague and the overall lack of quality wasn’t reassuring. VinFast hasn’t released charging speeds for the car yet or really shown any kind of engineering prowess when compared with competitors. The positives: door thunks are great, the software can be updated (it needs to be updated), styling is nice, I bet you could exceed EPA range easily. At the end of the day, a ~$55-62k vehicle should be something you’re proud to drive. Obviously you worked hard to drive something premium and this vehicle does not live up to it. A 179mi EPA range shows extreme inefficiency, however I hear a new test will increase it a whopping 20mi. Seriously, if VinFast put half the amount of money into engineering instead of the crazy marketing they’re doing, they may have a desirable product.

[@tinoan9804]

you should find out more information about vinfast they are doing a great job they

[@shannonbannanie4370]

This makes me rethink the vf9 that my husband wants to get.

[@tinoan9804]

@@shannonbannanie4370 In fact, this version of 999 vf8 is for the needs of the US market, with early access to the car that people can experience or rent with the distance in the city, and the following cars will go further. The batch of cars that, as announced by vinfast, have traveled 420km will arrive in the US in March

[@Kysen10]

brutal, glad you didn't sugar coat the experience.

[@shannonbannanie4370]

@@tinoan9804 I've got a model 3, so I would be constantly comparing features... The vf9 would be good space wise for our family.

[@jondevansky186]

Gotta give credit to Kyle for giving a car 3/10 in front of the Vinfast rep.

[@jediburrito]

Honestly I wish he looked at the dude in the eyes when he said that

[@FreekHoekstra]

Came outta nowhere too xD Wowwwww he was decently positive so far, not great but ok, But 3/10 ooof

[@aussie2uGA]

@@jediburrito Well, he didn't want to give a slanted view.

[@Wasabi9111]

Kyle is awesome w his honest reviews. Most other reviewers rarely give any car lower than a 8/10, which makes their reviews worhtless if all cars are amazing and there’s nothing to distinguish them.

[@Skylancer727]

@@Wasabi9111 Basically all reviewers ever. Reviewers are fearful of giving bad scores on things as it means less business trips, less invites to new product showcases, and it could also carry over to others working on the same site or company. It's a huge penalty when your entire job is reviewing things.

[@ekhaat]

"Feel like we just wasted a day" No, this is important. Like a kick in the butt for the manufacturer to get their act together. Hope they listen

[@forrestsautoreviewsofficial]

When he said backup camera from the year 2002 I lost it 😂😂😂😂

[@dustintravis8791]

I had to rewind to make sure I heard that right 😂😂

[@colingenge9999]

Kyle‘s awareness and ability to contextualize clunks and thunks is almost magical. I’ve never witnessed a car reviewer that has a better understanding of mechanicals and is quicker on understanding how to get the electronic bits to work. Congratulations. My all time favorite was Kyle taking 5 adults around Nürburgring in a Tesla rear wheel drive at near maximum speed while calmly describing the handling characteristics.

[@graham2890]

This was not a waste of a day. You gave the world an honest review of a vehicle some people may have considered.

[@MrCountrycuz]

Not anymore! Tesla rules the EV space! Next!

[@peter238]

@@MrCountrycuz Actually the real leader in EV is BYD, the world's largest maker of EV. It makes all the batteries for its own cars, and also supply batteries to tesla, the lagger.

[@Hoa240]

a bullshit

[@IBmisspeppermint]

Honestly, I don’t think it was time wasted. I am SO appreciative for you taking the time to do that. HONEST reviews are always appreciated

[@TotallyJoel]

I've been kind of worried about magnas sponsorship deal with kyle, hope he maintains integrity when it comes to vehicles that use their powertrain and stuff.

[@ymcpa73]

@@TotallyJoel I would be concerned if someone who does teardowns, like Sandy Munroe, took money from a component manufacturer. Kyle's reviews are mostly about charging and road trips. He might mention if a car has certain powertrain equipment but he's reviews are mostly about how much horsepower the car has and if it feels quick. I don't see how a Magnas sponsorship will affect his reviews. Actually, I'm wondering why a component maker like Magnas needs to do sponsorship deals with youtubers at all.

[@cbatiau2528]

I agree that it wasn't time wasted. But I'd already written off Vinfast because of its crappy Tesla-like infotainment screen and no instrument panel/screen. It will take a lot for me to buy any BEV with an "iPad-glued-to-dashboard" joke of an infotainment screen, and this is not the proper place for any reputable automaker to be emulating Tesla. One thing that I think is good about the Vinfast is the ordinary exterior door handles; receding door handles are for the birds and just something more to break.

[@thethaovatoquoc312]

Not only that, VinFast owner Pham Nhat Vuong got blood money for wealth from colluding with the utterly corrupt and brutal Vietnamese Commie regime and selling robbed lands and houses of poor Vietnamese citizens. The Financial Times even had investigative reports on this topic. VinFast is part of VinGroup whose numerous enterprises ended up being short-lived, including convenient stores, clothe lines, smart phones, rice-cookers, stock-trading platform, gas cars, e-bikes, and soon-to-be electric cars. Chairman Vuong's real goal is to take this so-called company on US market IPO, sweep the cash, then flee like a bandit. He created the vast wealth for VinGroup only through using VinGroup as a conduit to sell robbed lands of poor Vietnamese citizens by colluding with the brutal Vietnamese Commie regime who directly did the land-robbing. Search "cuop dat dan" (meaning "land robbing of citizens") right here on KZbin to see millions of footages of such land-robbings all over the country, spanning for decades, dating back to Commie Chinese puppet Ho Chi Minh's deadly land-reform (1953-1956) that slaughtered nearly 1 million North Vietnamese to rob their lands and homes. All true. Do your research.

[@IBmisspeppermint]

@@cbatiau2528 YES! Same..all of what you said.

[@gwcars13]

I love how absolutely brutally honest you are! It’s feedback they need to hear. The market is just going to be getting better and better. You can’t come in with a subpar offering and expect to make waves.

[@jelloMohnny]

You absolutely did not waste the day by reviewing this car - you gave it an honest review which we all appreciate. They can’t all be good! Sounds like this car will be DOA

[@Fabeman1]

I guess we witnessed Kyle’s first and last time of being invited to drive a VinFast… LOL.😂

[@jetwirejason3289]

🤣

[@tuandoan8104]

No vinfart for you Kyle! 🤣

[@anekinoo7]

Hes about to get blacklisted by companies 😂

[@thethaovatoquoc312]

If Kyle is in Vietnam, he would be arrested and jailed by VinFast Chairman Commie Pham Nhat Vuong's regime Commie minions, as he did to many critics of VinFast cars. All true.

[@ongmat4439]

Based on their trading records in all the tech-related businesses they ventured into over the last 10 years, it's highly likely that they will fold before their ten-year warranty runs out...so no worries for honest reviewers...

[@jmucbear]

Massive kudos to you, Kyle, for politely ripping a car to shreds in front of reps. You weren't rude, you weren't confrontation, you just told the truth. And good for you for avoiding the many junkets so that you could maintain a sense of independence. If Vinfast really is going public in the U.S. next year videos like this will get a lot more deserved attention.

[@derbagger22]

Well, most of these guys are good looking reps that will make their money until the start up launches and will go on to other companies and products. I went to the Lucid studio opening in Boston and was getting those vibes. No one there was really a car person. Granted, I still put in a reservation and the car is legit, bit it's so much marketing for these new companies.

[@derbagger22]

@@oliviabethofort5546 he didn't care if it was a performance car. The troubling part is that they are advertising a certain hp that he feels is vastly overrated. As for heated and cooled seats, that's not luxury car exclusive anymore. Hasn't been for years...as for the rest, I feel he explained everything clearly and rated it fairly. For the price, he would only be ok with one as a rental. And since he's driven almost every kind of EV and gives clear, thorough explanations, I trust him more than a Vinfast employee...

[@derbagger22]

@@oliviabethofort5546 I don't know how many people would be happy with park bench seats and an extremely loud interior, especially in an EV.

[@SSintox]

​@@oliviabethofort5546 The reviewer sounds fare, independent. Everything he says is on-point. He repeatedly cheers for the VF8 on several things in a spontaneously way: door shut nice, color nice, design nice, a few other things I forgot. You on the other hand sounded like some unintelligent employee (directly or indirectly) of Vinfast. Your whole argument circulates on a phrase he said off-cuff. OF COURSE, are you dumb? he didn't mean and doesn't care if VF8 is a Ferrari. What he meant was NO Way the VF8 has 400 Horse Power.

[@Christoph-sd3zi]

He's a better man than I - there is no way I would not turn down a boozy, all-expenses-paid junket to Vietnam.

[@108media4]

I had the same impression when I test drove one here in Toronto. I told my wife it's a decent car for 30k not 50-60k

[@TheAvgCanadian]

Thanks for the review. This is the reason why I will always be a subscriber to your channel. Simple, honest and for the people.

[@TroyMeekhof]

Kyle is really showing his passion here. He doesn't care about the perks of being a KZbinr or a journalist. He cares about genuinely good cars. I really respect that.

[@ouch1011]

The perks of being a KZbinr are basically financing his entire extravagant car collection, so I disagree that he “doesn’t care about the perks of being a KZbinr.” He can make more money by putting out content instead of spending a week at a retreat for a single car.

[@itburnswhenipvp3789]

Perks such as: getting invited to Magna Headquarters in Austria? and getting them on board as "financial partners"? Only to shit on other KZbinrs and VinFast, a company forcing their own employees to buy VinFast products, because they have invited some "journalist" over to Vietnam for some beverage and cookies? Whaa.... there's a word for that.

[@GA-wq8xq]

He has lots of inherited family money so he is self financing and can say what he thinks but still takes freebies from other companies.

[@louisalong7019]

Kyle is quite ignorant not even knowing how to open the sunroof of the VF8 Plus by using the voice activation! One thing I found the VF8 PLus interesting is that pouring some cool water on its windscreen sensor, will cause the sunroof to automatically quietly close by itself. This means whenever a VF8 Plus driver forgets to close the sunroof and it begins to rain, the sunroof quietly does its job by closing itself. This high tech helps prevent the EV from damaging its interior, which can lead to many electric issues later. This is why people called VF8 Plus, a smartcar.

[@friedputty]

@@louisalong7019 oh cool, another Vinfast employee using a fake name to post excuses

[@MrLogansimmons]

Thanks for being honest. A lot of journalists would be scared to say some of those things in front of the manufacturer rep.

[@nguyenduyhai7181]

If he is Vietnamese and lives in Vietnam and criticizes vinfast cars, he will be fined or considered reactionary and unpatriotic!

[@MrTraa-ut7pe]

​@@nguyenduyhai7181 Criticism is different from slander

[@nguyenduyhai7181]

@@MrTraa-ut7pe If you are in Vietnam, even if it is criticized or slandered, you will also be scorful by public opinion, they will say that you are not patriotic and betrayed your country...

[@friedputty]

@@MrTraa-ut7pe This reaction is exactly the problem. If nobody is allowed to be truthful, then the product or situation cannot improve.

[@redboyjan]

@@nguyenduyhai7181 but noone can believe anyone's opinions, and not buy at all

[@shithead4767]

No matter how many people Kyle will hire no-one does it like him, a true automotive legend

[@inclusivelove5165]

This is why I love your channel. Real opinion and real reviews. Good or bad is very clear. Good job 👍

[@rockford2981]

This is why I like you as a reviewer - you don't want to be wined and dined - you want to do a review. You should do more reviews then just EVs too....i know your growing your audience that way but the honesty is what I think provides value.

[@nolver53]

So Kyle is not human and not subject to the temptations of modern capitalism? You all are too infatuated with this guy.

[@WordsMatter1982]

@@nolver53 Good grief.

[@nickparry1720]

The honesty in front of the Vinfast employees made me so uncomfortable. I love it. Way to go, Kyle. This is why we keep coming back.

[@nguyenduyhai7181]

How do you see vinfast employees? They look very hypocritical, right?

[@ongmat4439]

So you'd rather hear the lies about how superior their mediocre products are?

[@erichchan3]

Plot twist: Vinfast reps agree with Kyle.

[@phil4986]

Thank you for your honest review. Vinfast should not expect promotional reviews from two people who stand in ten below zero weather to charge electric vehicles for a dataset. Much respect to both of you and, apparently, VinFast has a lot of work to do to just get even. Never mind being superior to anything on the market right now.

[@jamesg6491]

A Bribe-Free review of VinFast VF8. Thank You Kyle for your straight shooting honesty.

[@nguyenduyhai7181]

If he is Vietnamese and lives in Vietnam and criticizes vinfast cars, he will be fined or considered reactionary and unpatriotic!

[@TT-dz8zf]

Yes…he missed the $7,000 whiskey offer to bring us this honest review. He earned a new subscription from me for this video.

[@JollyJokerTheMetalhead]

@@nguyenduyhai7181 you copied and pasted this on every comment, so much hate you have?

[@minhle1002]

@@nguyenduyhai7181 ...or they may put you in jail too !, because they have "close connection" to the communist rulers in Vietnam !...

[@phunk8607]

Haha Supercar Blondie looking like a twat right now

[@matthew4725]

Thank you SOOO much for the honest review. Much appreciated! You saved me a ton of time trying to do my own research. I think I'll hold off on Vinfast for at least a few generations of their models.

[@hasanturgut2712]

Thanks, Kyle for the honest review. There are millions of questions about this brand. It helped a lot

[@evflyguy]

You certainly didn't waste your day at Vinfast. This is info other journalists have been withholding from us. Thank you, Kyle!

[@redboyjan]

You can tell which are lying how they say how good things that are flawed, and block them

[@kdao4538]

Believe in no one. Trust yourself taking your own test drive. Remember no car is perfection

[@CollegeFootballNerds]

Massive kudos for doing this the "right way," both in terms of ensuring you can do a proper review, and in delivering honest (but respectful) content. I know there's a lot of pressure to cut corners here and you deserve a ton of respect for putting integrity first.

[@randomname931]

I love how brutally honest he is in front of the employees lol

[@nguyenduyhai7181]

If he is Vietnamese and lives in Vietnam and criticizes vinfast cars, he will be fined or considered reactionary and unpatriotic!

[@HomeLander83]

Vinfast hire bad rep. Those 2 should get fired rightnow

[@michaellim4165]

@@HomeLander83 This is the type of mentality of the Vinfast in general. He didn't. Uy Vinfast motorcycle so he should get fired too?

[@duylinh3989]

@@nguyenduyhai7181 bạn nên nói cho đúng nhé.c9n không chê cha mẹ khó chó không chê chủ nghèo.

[@ChiHanhbitrinoichaymauratnhieu]

@@duylinh3989 có sao nói vậy thôi bạn, chứ ở VN mình nói gì xấu đến VF là bị kiện với gọi công an mà

[@robcossin4690]

Kyle you have the best enthusiasm and I love your honesty, thank you.

[@CarbonG3]

I've been lurking and watching your videos and reviews for some time now, and greatly appreciate the nerdy statistics and specifics surrounding EVs, their charging experience, and their driving experience. As an ICE owner it's good to get a look at what's coming for the future and watch the sector's progress. My respect for your work has only increased after this video - thank you for cutting through the marketing and giving brutally honest observations in front of a company rep. I'd venture to guess that most people are just overwhelmed with the fact that they are getting the opportunity to drive an unreleased car, stray away from being brutally honest about the experience as they should be, and most of which don't have your knowledgeable background on the specifics of EVs or mechanical aspects of vehicles.

[@jerrymildredpetersen3177]

Definitely NOT a wasted day, Kyle. Thanks for the honest review right in front of the VinFast reps in the car with you. You probably weren't telling them anything they didn't already know. Kudos to you for being critical with politeness and to those two guys for not trying to argue or make excuses. The scary part of rushing a car (or any product) to market is that the potential benefit of getting an early start could be lost by the bad impressions that stick with the car even after the flaws are addressed.

[@moomoo5198]

“Overall for the daily driving and the price of the car i don’t know why you would buy this car” omg that killed me right there 😂 subscribed!!!

[@BillSauceify]

Kyle Ripping them to shreds politely. I love it

[@Yanquetino]

I was intrigued by the VinFast after seeing Sandy Munro's reactions in Vietnam. Now… you've convinced me that my next EV will NOT be a VinFast, but most likely an Ioniq 5 Limited -if I can just find one with my preferred configuration.

[@chantrau57]

Sandy is dirty, he got ten thousand bucks and a free of charge few days vacation plus a bottle of Whiskey 😂😂😂

[@willitbreak5825]

Yeah, at $45k for a Model Y (after tax credits) I don’t see why anyone would get a VinFast now.

[@ChrisPaceAZ]

I've seen other "reviews' that were definitely controlled by Vinfast. Brutal honesty is better served at this stage, versus when a bunch of future owners rip it to shreds in a more public forum. Great work as always buddy!

[@oliviabethofort5546]

At the end of the video @39:50 Kyle said, "This [VF8] is not a performance car". He actually rated the VF8 based on the standards of performance cars! Performance vehicles are commonly referred to as sports cars, muscle cars, or luxury cars. It's clearly a big mistake when he comes test-driving the VF8 with the expectation that it is a "performance car". It's totally ridiculous to compare a family vehicle like VF8 to a performance one. Nobody does that! Also, VinFast NEVER publicly said VF8 is a "performance car". VF8 is in fact a great family car. Even Sandy Munro after his VF8 testdrving, clearly said VF8 is NOT a speed demon that you are going to find with cars like Tesla focusing only on speed, but VF8 has a plenty of things that at the end of the day make people happy, like cooled and heated seats found only in luxury vehicles! Surprisingly, performance cars like expensive Tesla are not clean either. According to an 8 year report published in March 2022, on average 7.5 Tesla cars catch fire or explode every year! A Tesla Model Y lost control hitting a power pole after killing 3 people last month in China. At the same time, a Tesla in front of a residence in Orange County in America suddenly caught fire for certain unknown reasons! Furthermore, Kyle keeps comparing ID.4 to VF8 in his video. However, theverge reported on 11/14/2022, "Volkswagen has given a name to its pain, and it is ‘software’" with sudden blank infotainment screens and the system taking time to boot or random shutdowns and reboots. In addition, thedriveradviser on 11/18/2022 pointed out 6 common problems of Volkswagen ID.4, which include brake problems, electrical issues, vehicle stalling, faulty seat belt assemblies, headlights problem and issues with soy-coat wiring. Go to any mechanics in America and ask them if a Volkswagen is worth buying! The answer most likely is NO! By the way, the bigger end up of the car key is the head where the brain is housed.

[@ChrisPaceAZ]

@@oliviabethofort5546 it’s priced compared to Model Y or higher spec EV6/Ioniq 5. $55k+ should have “some” enhanced qualities. I sense a Vinfast PR attempt here lol

[@xxguchiwaraxx]

All real tests are mountain passes, with difficulty levels , 500km/ 100% Battery, this is the most realistic test. ------ kzbin.info/www/bejne/bJOaY2mmaNFse6M

[@GuyGamer1]

@@oliviabethofort5546 I have never seen a more blatant company comment in my life.

[@ymcpa73]

@@oliviabethofort5546 I missed the part where he used performance standards. He did talk about the 400 hp and says it doesn't feel like 400 HP because other cars like the ID 4 and Recharge XC40. He also compares it to cares in that price range. The ID4, Ioniq, and XC40 are not performance cars. Even the standard range Model 3, which is around that price isn't a performance car.

[@tuandoan8104]

I appreciate your honesty Kyle, great job!

[@loriallen67]

Props for the honest review. I’ve been watching how they were wining and dining everybody. Says a lot. A whole lot.

[@TotallyJoel]

Yeah all that wining and dining that car manufacturers do to reviewers is really cringe. They have to play along in order to keep on getting the footage though 🙄

[@loriallen67]

@@TotallyJoel yeah. Bet Kyle doesn’t get a VinFast to review…..

[@redboyjan]

Block em

[@peternguyen5385]

Good job Kyle. These communist people from Vietnamese government, they created these cars …..some the parts from China and some from Germany and assembly in Vietnam. Whoever come in Vietnam as a reviewers journalist, they butter them with all the goodies yes like TURKEYS. They just want to laundry their robbing money from the Vietnamese over there and bring it into USA. That’s a purpose. They don’t care whether it is profitable or not profitable. They don’t care about the safety. They plant to build a car factory in North Carolina to mainly laundry their dirty money into USA and flood their commie people into USA. I guess.

[@khanhdzu274]

David and Jeff, thanks so much for being with Kyle to give us a thoroughly review of this car. After watching this video clip, I would recommend both of you or any Vinfast employees in the US quickly applying for new careers. This company probably won't last long. ;-)

[@bradbeckett3800]

The vin company is huge. They probably aren’t going anywhere. Will ppl in the US buy this car when the if4, ev6 and ionic 5 are available? Doubtful.

[@MrVuTran]

@@bradbeckett3800 they are huge because they're backed by the government.

[@fattyger6248]

@@bradbeckett3800 cause they are funded by the Vietnamese government

[@mantahoan4999]

Vietnamese people have experienced many wars to protect their territory with the most powerful countries in the world. We are having the longest period of peace in history for economic development. You can rest assured about the quality

[@hoatuongdung17]

@@mantahoan4999 😂😂😂😂 You’re dreaming , right ? Sound like a red bull 😂😂😂

[@windowman9665]

I gotta give it to you for doing an honest , no BS review. Telling them it sucks to their face. Good work

[@anjelalva1010]

Great video man! I think this is the first honest impressions on this truck. Thank you!

[@oliviabethofort5546]

At the end of the video @39:50 you said, "This [VF8] is not a performance car". You actually rated the VF8 based on the standards of performance cars! Performance vehicles are commonly sports cars, muscle cars, or luxury cars. It's clearly a big mistake when you come test-driving the VF8 with the expectation that it is a "performance car". It's totally ridiculous to compare a family vehicle like VF8 to a performance one. Nobody does that! Also, VinFast NEVER publicly said VF8 is a "performance car". VF8 is in fact a great family car. Even Sandy Munro after his VF8 testdrving, clearly said VF8 is NOT a speed demon that you are going to find with cars like Tesla focusing only on speed, but VF8 has a plenty of things that at the end of the day make people happy, like cooled and heated seats found only in luxury vehicles! Surprisingly, performance cars like expensive Tesla are not clean either. According to an 8 year report published in March 2022, on average 7.5 Tesla cars catch fire or explode every year! A Tesla Model Y lost control hitting a power pole after killing 3 people last month in China. At the same time, a Tesla in front of a residence in Orange County in America suddenly caught fire for certain unknown reasons! Surprisingly, you keep comparing ID.4 to VF8 in your video. However, theverge reported on 11/14/2022, "Volkswagen has given a name to its pain, and it is ‘software’" with sudden blank infotainment screens and the system taking time to boot or random shutdowns and reboots. In addition, thedriveradviser on 11/18/2022 pointed out 6 common problems of Volkswagen ID.4, which include brake problems, electrical issues, vehicle stalling, faulty seat belt assemblies, headlights problem and issues with soy-coat wiring. Go to any mechanics in America and ask them if a Volkswagen is worth buying! The answer most likely is NO! By the way, the bigger end up of the car key is the head where the brain is housed.

[@Thrustguy]

I agree with you.

[@chengcao418]

It's a bit pointless listing out all the failures of other cars BEFORE any significant amount of VinFast are on the road. You can list out numbers like "Toyota recalled over a million cars over fire risk", while some brands have never sold a million cars to begin with. You can't assume the VF8 will be any safer and you can't assume it's going to be less buggy in software, because there is still NONE on the road yet.

[@ouch1011]

Complaining about a noisy interior, uncomfortable seats and software that doesn’t work properly has nothing to do with it being a performance vehicle or not. That’s whether or not it is a competent vehicle that is worth the price. This vehicle is not. Your dubious stats about Teslas catching fire and whatever you’re talking about with the id.4 is so incoherent that I’m just ignoring it. It’s completely irrelevant anyway.

[@ymcpa73]

@@ouch1011 I actually believe the Tesla stat. I initially thought she said 7.5 a day. When I noticed it's 7.5 a year, it's not that bad when considering they sold 1.3 million last year and 1 million the year before. I'm sure there are 7 teslas a year that are involved in bad enough accidents or have owners who seriously abuse the batteries. Some Tesla drivers drive aggressively and that car has a massive amount of torque. There are thousands of ICE car fires every year.

[@oliviabethofort5546]

In addition to ID.4, Kyle recommended EV6 and Ioniq 5! Ioniq 5 users have reported many serious problems including forward collision avoidance malfunction, parking break problem, limited over air updates, false warning alerts, gear shifting problems, sharp decline in power and acceleration. The worst thing is that depreciation of Ioniq is up to 50% after just 5 years! Also, Kia EV6 is not immune from serious problems including brake problems unable to stop the EV from rolling backward, climate control and heating issues, noises from the front motor, split-use control problems, wiper problems affecting visibility in bad weather, small uncomfortable space inside as a result of the design shape, and software flaws. And the problems with ID.4 have been mentioned in this thread. Surprisingly, Kyle thought ID.4, EV6 and Ioniq 5 were better than VF8! Go figure.

[@williamelkington5430]

Thanks, Kyle and Alyssa, for an excellent review.

[@OutofSpecReviews]

Thanks for watching!

[@williamelkington5430]

@@OutofSpecReviews You bet!

[@Quickicecarreviews123]

I’m truly impressed how detailed and articulate this review is!! Great job!

[@BoldBrandFlakes]

Thank you for doing this Kyle, I’m sick of seeing the fake Vinfast comments and the paid off reviewers trying to hype this up. If the car is a POS it needs to be confronted before consumers buy this rolling pile of garbage. Vinfast need to do an overhaul and bring their cars back into development to see what Americans ACTUALLY want.

[@nguyendao7832]

Nope, they will not get the cars back into development. All VF needs is IPO, gets the money and runs away.

[@BoldBrandFlakes]

@@nguyendao7832 Hows VinFast looking now?

[@quanvo5107]

​@@BoldBrandFlakes Bad! Very bad! They take advantage of patriotism to sell their car you would't see these critism on newspaper nor the internet! You only see the good review which they paid people to say good thing about it! In Vn if you criticize this car you will be called treason or sth similar to it and being bombarded by insulting comment! VF used to sue a customer for criticizing this product! To be honest i would't swap my Tesla model Y for this pile of crap!

[@stussy777]

@@BoldBrandFlakes Now, good car for sure.

[@MLe-db7gd]

An honest to goodness review is greatly appreciated. Subscribed!!

[@paulhaskins5191]

Thanks for having the integrity to give such a candid review.

[@Succumbed2Rum]

I love Kyle's brutal honesty. Thank you for a detailed and forthcoming review.

[@TechnaDesign]

Nice review! I don't think you wasted a day with VinFast. You made good content that we enjoyed to watch. 👍

[@TrucLK]

I'm an VF8 owner in Vietnam, I had a chance to drive in Las Vegas during the last AWS reinvent. - The rear camera is a bug, not a feature... As you can see there are 2 camera in the back, one of them for 360 views, one of them for rear viewing, the 360 camera is not stable sometime it works sometime doesn't with my car :D. - About the price, they advertised the car with different price and apply many vouchers and discounts, so I think the MSRP is not exactly cost of ownership. - I agree that the noise is unacceptable in anything higher than 40mph. But it's not just about the car, it's a combination between road, tire and other cars as well. - I drove some 260HP in the states (ES350, QX60, Mustang) and I don't know what is the reason you think it's not 400HP. For me it's more powerful than them. I agree the software and AI is nightmare. I just want to disable all of them, include the map :D.

[@dowhill1956]

Thank you for your completely honest review as always Kyle!!!

[@Gamebound_kent_wa]

Most KZbinrs were bought by them. Glad you are unbiased.

[@TNitroH]

I think Kyle was trying to let them know the competition will eat them alive at 50k politely. Kyle knows his stuff and they would be advised to listen now!

[@jalh9080]

Super helpful, honest evaluation. Nice looking car. Hoping* that vin fast can clean up some of the issues before production. Thanks Kyle

[@Blood8Chapel]

As a long time manufacturer in Japan. We have tried countless times to give Vietnam manufacturing oppportunity. But vietnam QC is still questionable till this day. This is connected to the carefree culture of Vietnamese culture. So either we continue to get cars made from Europe, USA, Japan as well as China, every other countries won't have the Quality as these countries.

[@olafherrendorf2821]

Congrats on one more honest reviewer. Just thought to myself that I really have to watch more of Kyle Conner. Genuinely thanks.

[@Shockers_ClassOf1990]

Great honest reviews. You deserved a 10/10.

[@vnnews9020]

If you were vietnamese, you would get in trouble with the police because of vinfast car reviews. For example Gogo tv(589k Sub), he have to delete all video about vinfast.

[@JSilv3r]

Wow Kyle was extremely honest and fair with his experience here. Loved the video

[@interestingstuff9235]

Honest review!! Good job Kyle!!

[@softpanda2458]

Thanks for taking the time to review this.....a shame it wasn't a good experience....your response was priceless

[@nguyenpham7965]

VF was running its mouth about a battery range of 280, 290 until EPA tested and said its actually 179-mile range. In VF is a small company of VinGroup which funded and protected by the Communist Vietnamese government. VG is not an automobile company nor any tech company at all besides real estate. VG came out with VinPhone and bankrupted, then VF was born and came out with gasoline car roughly 3 years ago then they bankrupted also. In Vietnam, if customers complain about Vinfast cars, then the law enforcement will be called and harassed the customers.

[@paraic9163]

Ya I live in Vietnam and noticed negative news articles are blocked, I had to use a vpn to read them.

[@Ikejiaku]

Thank you for this; extremely informative.

[@ampedampson5140]

Legit lol'd at "I love sunroofs!" @26:45

[@Drewinvan]

Good video as usual Kyle.. appreciate the honest reviews you give. Regards from Vancouver Canada.

[@jasonwidegren3211]

You’re my favorite car reviewer these days. Great job!

[@VietNguyen-qy1qb]

Here in Vietnam, I own a VF8 and also another of Vinfast sedan ICE model (called Lux A) and I COULD NOT AGREE MORE with the opinion made in this video review. What an honest and sophisticated review! A really nice job! In order to survive in the grobal EV market, I hope that Vinfast would seriously listen and learn from each of the "Out of Spec Reviews" comments to improve its next batch of EVs. Thank you Kyle for a great video! Translation: Ở Việt Nam, tôi đang sở hữu một chiếc VF8 và một xe sedan xăng Lux A của Vinfast và TÔI KHÔNG THỂ ĐỒNG Ý HƠN với ý kiến đưa ra trong video review này. Đây là một đánh giá thực sự TRUNG THỰC và TINH TẾ! A really nice job! Để có thể tồn tại được trên thị trường xe điện toàn cầu, tôi hy vọng Vinfast sẽ nghiêm túc lắng nghe và rút kinh nghiệm từ từng nhận xét của kênh "Out of Spec Reviews" để cải thiện những lô xe điện tiếp theo của mình. Cảm ơn Kyle vì một video tuyệt vời!

[@thomaspham1506]

You must be a nut guy to own two VinFast products and have agreed with Kyle on 3/10 grades. Why did you buy them?

[@VietNguyen-qy1qb]

@@thomaspham1506 Because of the different kinds of heavy taxes, car prices in Vietnam are generally 2 - 3 times higher than in the US. For the comparison, a Porsche Taycan or a Mercedes EQS costs from US$220k in Vietnam, so 45k for a VF8 plus trim with battery subscription is not bad at all. And of course as a truly Vietnamese, I am happy to support Vinfast. BTW, my Lux A, which is based on BMW 5-series is one of the best value ICE cars over-here though.

[@toanluduc4776]

vinphet

[@phinl872]

@@toanluduc4776 get out 😏

[@ymcpa73]

@@VietNguyen-qy1qb Just curious if lower priced EVs like the Ioniq or even some Chines automakers, like BYD are available in Vietnam and how much those cars costs. You are comparing it to high end cars, like the Taycan and EQS.

[@andyfeimsternfei8408]

Good job Kyle! I hope they refine it quickly.

[@ebernier797]

Love how objective your reviews are.

[@samuel999]

I'm really glad for this even-handed review. But it makes me question why some other KZbinrs were so glowing... (not going to name names)

[@stangmatt66]

VinFast is using BMW parts bin for some things like door handles, buttons, switch gear, stalks, etc. so there's a reason some of it feels great.

[@TuNguyen-ml8cl]

Vinfast used BMW,GMC parts on gas vehicle only ! Vinfast EV using China pasts that why very bad quality.

[@stangmatt66]

@@TuNguyen-ml8cl not entirely true, the turn signal and wiper stalks in the VF8 are BMW

[@2AntsBro]

Dont just talk pls, appreciate your clear point on this or at least some reports, evidences convincing your point​@@TuNguyen-ml8cl

[@Utbr88]

Now I know why all these KZbinrs have so much praise about this car on their review. When you get paid extravagant amount of entertainment and paid vacation AND they control your reporting (how communistic idea), you have no choice but to give good words. Thank you for staying honest and give us true information.

[@nobodyeazbt]

Thanks for a a great and honest review. Most reviews out there were biased with perks/incentives.

[@Isaac-un4cn]

Excellent review! I saw one of their cars at a gallery in Los Angeles a few months ago and was intrigued by the car. But it was not drivable at that time. Appreciate your candor - definitely not a waste of your time!

[@serlegar]

They should follow the path of Hyundai and start with a small economy car instead of trying to play in the luxury SUV segment that is already very crowded.

[@johndoe3092]

what will Vinfast do with the 999 VF8 City Edition that has no buyer? And also there's no take up when they put the cars for leasing / renting ?

[@wtmayhew]

It is interesting to compare Kyle’s analysis to Sandy Munro fairly gushing over a Vinfast EV. Yep, that free vacation in Vietnam and a $7,000 bottle of whiskey may be factor.

[@friedputty]

It's interesting how down to the very name, VinFast is basically making the argument that you should be impressed by how fast they got the car to market, instead of asking whether that car is actually worth choosing. Indeed, every shortcoming of the car comes as a result of NOT taking more time to develop it properly.

[@redboyjan]

Block em

[@rog351]

That was not a waste of time …. so good to know what the vehicle is really like as it is getting a lot of hype. Being a first introduction They most likely will try and improve the items mentioned. Thanks for A good first impression of this vehicle.

[@williamsharkspeare4933]

hey thanks Kyle i think your straight honest review is very important to VF, in my opinion they're relatively new and inexperienced and your video might give them ideas on what to do to make their cars better.

[@andynugen510]

Kudos to u for not letting them bribe u with all those perks. This video will forever tarnish all those youtubers who gave a peachy review of Vinfast.

[@vantaithongminh]

Thanks for an honest review. In Vietnam, we can’t talk something bad about Vinfast, they control the media but they just can’t do it in America.

[@paraic9163]

Ya I live in Vietnam and noticed negative news articles are blocked, I had to use a vpn to read them.

[@redboyjan]

Sad

[@Alexandre-vj5yq]

'All tyrannies rule through fraud and force, but once the fraud is exposed they must rely exclusively on force.' - George Orwell

[@peternguyen5385]

Good job Kyle. These communist people from Vietnamese government, they created these cars …..some the parts from China and some from Germany and assembly in Vietnam. Whoever come in Vietnam as a reviewers journalist, they butter them with all the goodies yes like TURKEYS. They just want to laundry their robbing money from the Vietnamese over there and bring it into USA. That’s a purpose. They don’t care whether it is profitable or not profitable. They don’t care about the safety. They plant to build a car factory in North Carolina to mainly laundry their dirty money into USA and flood their commie people into USA. I guess.

[@TranHuy-bt9sv]

"cant talk bad" but everyone can lmao

[@jdmrc93]

I ran into a VF8 at the EVgo station last week. Clearly a manufacturer test vehicle. I asked the guy driving it, who was checking a bunch of sensors in the hatch, to give me his honest opinion. Kid you not, he looked me dead in the eyes and said in a thick Chinese(?) accent… “it’s TERRIBLE”, shook his head, and left. 😂

[@phinl872]

Bạn bịa chuyện à

[@danalura8424]

Thanks for being honest and not getting any bribery in return for good review of the car. I would never pay more than 25 grands for this car after your review.

[@johndoe3092]

you are so generous! I would consider it at the price tag below $9999 😉

[@tungthanh8164]

don't give your life to a rush product then pay money for influencers to talk well about it.

[@danalura8424]

@@johndoe3092 hahahahahaha

[@paulyonemura4500]

A VinFast dealer opened near my home and was holding a "cars-and-coffee" event, so my wife and I went. The cars on the showroom floor were for show, not "customer ready." I noticed fit and finish issues right away. I did test drive a car that was ready for demo drives and for sale and I observed the following: 1. Some of the functions on the touch screen didn't work, such as the side mirror adjustments. Not good, particularly when the car is on the move and you're trying to get something essential to function (windshield wipers). 2. This car feels very fast, but the power delivery is not smooth, gives you a big kick right off the line, even with a very light accelerator pedal. 3. The steering is way too light, almost like 1950s cars where you could spin the wheel with one finger, no road feel at all. 4. I didn't take it out on the freeway, but there was a lot of tire noise around town. IMHO, this car would be very tiring on a road trip, due to the high noise levels. 5. Even on this car, there were fit and finish issues. (I own a Genesis GV60 Advanced. The car I drove was close to it in list price, but let's just say I came away from this test drive with an even greater appreciation of the GV60. The VinFast sales people knew they weren't getting a sale from me.) Thank you for a great video review. VinFast needs to take such feedback seriously, or they will not last long in this market. The car looks nice, but needs a serious dose of refinement at the price they're charging.

[@androo4519]

Good for you Kyle for not feeling forced to say only nice things because the rep is in the car with you. The level of manipulation from Vinfast seems to suggest they don't have much confidence in the car, and probably for good reason.

[@redboyjan]

Block em. Sorted

[@ericseader414]

Once again, saving your viewers literally tens of thousands of dollars by giving honest reviews of much-hyped, much-anticipated EVs! Thanks again!

[@oliviabethofort5546]

At the end of the video @39:50 Kyle said, "This [VF8] is not a performance car". He actually rated the VF8 based on the standards of performance cars! Performance vehicles are commonly referred to as sports cars, muscle cars, or luxury cars. It's clearly a big mistake when he comes test-driving the VF8 with the expectation that it is a "performance car". It's totally ridiculous to compare a family vehicle like VF8 to a performance one. Nobody does that! Also, VinFast NEVER publicly said VF8 is a "performance car". VF8 is in fact a great family car. Even Sandy Munro after his VF8 testdrving, clearly said VF8 is NOT a speed demon that you are going to find with cars like Tesla focusing only on speed, but VF8 has a plenty of things that at the end of the day make people happy, like cooled and heated seats found only in luxury vehicles! Surprisingly, performance cars like expensive Tesla are not clean either. According to an 8 year report published in March 2022, on average 7.5 Tesla cars catch fire or explode every year! A Tesla Model Y lost control hitting a power pole after killing 3 people last month in China. At the same time, a Tesla in front of a residence in Orange County in America suddenly caught fire for certain unknown reasons! Furthermore, Kyle keeps comparing ID.4 to VF8 in his video. However, theverge reported on 11/14/2022, "Volkswagen has given a name to its pain, and it is ‘software’" with sudden blank infotainment screens and the system taking time to boot or random shutdowns and reboots. In addition, thedriveradviser on 11/18/2022 pointed out 6 common problems of Volkswagen ID.4, which include brake problems, electrical issues, vehicle stalling, faulty seat belt assemblies, headlights problem and issues with soy-coat wiring. Go to any mechanics in America and ask them if a Volkswagen is worth buying! The answer most likely is NO! By the way, the bigger end up of the car key is the head where the brain is housed.

[@ericseader414]

@@oliviabethofort5546 How much did VinFast pay you to write that? Where in my comment did I say anything about performance? He said that lots of parts in the car are junky and it doesn't even have true OPD. I've had a Tesla Model Y for 2.5 years. No fires and I rarely use autopilot (I like to actually drive my cars - imagine that!), but the times that I have used it, it works perfectly. Kyle rated this compared to other vehicles in the same price range - and they all happen to have decent performance, even though they are not all billed as performance vehicles (Ioniq and ID.4 are not performance vehicles). It is an expectation when you are dealing with a vehicle that has instant torque that you can send it without an issue. He also made note of the poor ride quality and soundproofing, terrible door pulls, and sub par turning radius - none of which have to do with performance. As for VW, I have absolutely zero desire to ever own one, so I don't really need the condescending lecture about the ID.4.

[@_Hao_Nguyen_]

@@ericseader414 probably less than $10,000 promissed. U can get alot of people to sing with $10,000 & I am glad Kyle did not.

[@kentgabriel3572]

this helped me feel justified in canceling my reservation....and I was one of the early ones that was going to get the $3000 discount and free vaca to one of their resorts. Hopefully things will improve before firs deliveries and of course throughout production in the coming yrs..... great video as always!

[@AndrewErickson]

Not a "wasted day" imo, I was vaguely aware of VinFast but had only heard positive things from reviewers and journalists. Finding the bad eggs in the sea of decent options is arguably more important than just highlighting all the great things from each option

[@SonNguyen-fc2xg]

Thank you for the un-filtered, un-bias, and in-influenced review of the vf8 Kyle.

[@gbfan1234567]

Seen plenty of these at my local charging stations here in Metro Detroit! Reminds me very much of a MachE in the rear and Peugeot in the front!

[@ShawnSonnentag]

Thanks, Kyle, for the honest review. Please repeat your test with the Aptera when it’s available and you get a chance.

[@faceclutch5555]

Thank you for your honesty and integrity.... This is why I am subbed

[@dannymai857]

Great job Kyle’s thank you for this review of Vinfast car ,good to know about this product .

[@lesliefranklin1870]

Hopefully, VinFast will take Kyle's criticisms seriously and make some changes. It could be a great car. Tesla had some issues at the beginning too.

[@keneisner7363]

I wanna see Sandy Munro give his honest take on Vinfast

[@IvanNguyen-ky6nn]

@@keneisner7363 same. I prefer someone who can borrow a Vinfast car for a week and thoroughly test it instead of driving it for 10 minutes. It's even better if he compares VF8 against other cars and supply stats to support his claims.

[@IvanNguyen-ky6nn]

@@kristiansomogyi744 let it be. Like any auto makers, Vinfast need time to fix all these issues and prove themselves.

[@IvanNguyen-ky6nn]

​@@michelangelosavigliano9253 Vinfast plans to build a $2-4 billion dollar factory in North Carolina in the first half of 2023. If they actually do that then it means they are serious about the US market. Just wait for another 6 months and we all will know. Their bold plan scares me because they want the factory without knowing whether they can sell their cars here or not. Most people fleeing to the US after the war hate Vinfast. Some people in Vietnam also don't like Vinfast because of their excessive campaign on social media but it's understandable because Vinfast is a new auto maker and they need Vietnamese people's support to succeed. Unlike South Korean auto makers who enjoyed 20 years of monopoly in their local auto market, Vietnam does not have that luxury.

[@IvanNguyen-ky6nn]

@@michelangelosavigliano9253 btw, the thing that worries me the most is i don't know how Vinfast can reduce the price of their cars. I got a list of Vinfast suppliers and most of them are from the Germany, US, France, South Korea and Israel. The only major component from China will be the battery (CALT + Gotion). It's hard to cut cost when you have those good suppliers. The VF8 car basically built by engineers from North America and Europe and Bosch supplies supplies the software.

[@davidbaker9943]

That was pretty epic. He didn’t hold back which is great! Great to see an honest review. Definitely gives more credibility.

[@johndoe3092]

No love lost here 😀. Regret is on Vinfast, they wish they had not invited you to review their car. 😀. Thank you for being honest and unbiased. 👍👏

[@Vxvx22]

Thanks for the honest review

[@andyschmidt7413]

🙂🙂🙂 out of 10, I still wish them success.

[@brnscofrnld]

Honestly, I don't think I will even look at this brand until they establish some repair infrastructure and a few years of US presence.

[@wolfgangpreier9160]

Good idea. Many chinese manufacturers have started in Europe but hardly any are sold. We are all waiting for them to build the service network. Tesla took 8 years. I hope the Chinese, Vietnamese and Turks are faster.

[@johnjames7712]

The CEO of VinFast has zero clue of how the US market is and thinks Americans will just buy his cars. I give it 5 years before they leave the US market.

[@Viddough]

Kyle kept it real wow

[@volkno4271]

The brake regen should be set to low. Nobody sets it to high, the vehicle will auto brake too sudden and it is annoying, that’s why you feel bad driving it. I own one vf8 and it is awesome.

[@TKevinBlanc]

Brutal. First and last time you'll get to drive Vinfast products. But we thank you.

[@micahchild]

Wow, I like the accessibility/user serviceability for the under hood/frunk area, easy access to 12v, fluids, and fuses :)

[@The._.Truth-.-]

This is why you need easy accessibility to the vf8 12V battery. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pavWn4OJbNiMla8

[@LeMauKhien]

but but it's not lined with felt or leather! Mercedes would never allow this. *checks Mercedes EQ electric cars* wait, Mercedes don't offer frunks at all. The lack of power thing is probably true but this reviewer is looking for any tiny thing to rip on this car. From what i see, the car is probably crap to drive but damn this reviewer is harsh.

[@micahchild]

@@LeMauKhien Kyle was actually very professional in his review. As he mentioned the overwhelming majority of reviews on KZbin for the VF8 are from reviewers who accepted Vinfast's offer to be flown out to Vietnam to their facility/resort to 'test'/review their vehicle. I'm not accusing any of those reviewers of impropriety or anything unethical, the reviews that I've seen all gave the disclaimer that they were there at Vinfast's invitation & cost. But I personally take those reviews with a healthy dose of salt. I personally spent several months researching and testing EVs before I purchased mine (Polestar 2) last September, and Kyle's/Out of Spec's reviews were a helpful part of that process. If the final price point for the VF8 is going to be $50k+ USD I would expect a high level of build-quality performance and comfort in the vehicle. Maybe they should be aiming for a price/point comparison against a level of vehicle class such as the Chevy Bolt EUV instead of a VW ID4 or Polestar 2, ect.. I look forward to his future/more in-depth review of the VinFast VF8, where he would have the opportunity to review an actual production model in 'real-world' conditions. I as a viewer/consumer appreciate as much of a non-bias/paid-for review of vehicles. I personally welcome more quality EV into the marketplace and hope for a robust competitive EV market, since that will/should help benefit all of us, and I hope Vinfast, Fisker, and other 'newer' manufacturers can be part of it along with the more 'legacy' manufacturers.

[@micahchild]

Easier accessibility to potentially (owner/user/driver) serviceable parts such as the 12v, brake fluid, and 12v accessory fuses is something I wish my Polestar offered in its design. I'm not looking forward to having to unfasten the fancy fasteners holding down the plastic panels under the hood If I ever need to jump my 12v. Of course, I was taught/raised to perform some basic maintenance/repairs on my own vehicles growing up too.

[@peternguyen5385]

Good job Kyle. Uhmmmm These communist people from Vietnamese government, they created these cars …..some the parts from China and some from Germany and assembly in Vietnam. Whoever come in Vietnam as a reviewers journalist, they butter them with all the goodies yes like TURKEYS. They just want to laundry their robbing money from the Vietnamese over there and bring it into USA. That’s a purpose. They don’t care whether it is profitable or not profitable. They don’t care about the safety. They plant to build a car factory in North Carolina to mainly laundry their dirty money into USA and flood their commie people into USA. I guess.