I Drove So Far Below 0% In This Kia EV9 70-MPH Highway Range Test! GT-Line AWD 99.8kWh

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@shaunguimond
@shaunguimond 11 ай бұрын
I did over 25 miles after hitting 0% on my Ioniq 5. The E-GMP have huge buffers! I never even lost any power 😅
@ichigo19870
@ichigo19870 11 ай бұрын
The problem is that this car is new and you dont really know how well balanced the bms is.
@the_undead
@the_undead 10 ай бұрын
​@@ichigo19870with what I know about how the E-GMP platform works You would have to go for quite a while before problems happen. Especially if you're going at lower speeds, I still wouldn't recommend because that massive buffer is there to help prevent the battery from degrading quickly both by keeping the battery in a state of charge range. That's healthy and by artificially increasing the percentage of the battery you have access to when it does degrade.
@iKaGe01
@iKaGe01 10 ай бұрын
How fast do trucks go there? Here they're limited to 64mph!
@MBergyman
@MBergyman 10 ай бұрын
What you drove below zero wasn’t even the buffer. The buffer is the unusable portion of the battery that the manufacturer has locked you out of.
@iKaGe01
@iKaGe01 10 ай бұрын
@@MBergyman Even so, the OBD should see that portion
@HandyDan
@HandyDan 11 ай бұрын
We have a 2022 Kia Sorento PHEV. Kia makes ev range with low estimates. The Sorento has 32 miles EV OEM. I drive 80 miles on my daily commute, and 48 miles are in EV only. But it does recharge the battery in gas mode. Combined I'm getting 55 MPG❤
@jdbmoto
@jdbmoto 11 ай бұрын
Seems to be the way to go! Best of both worlds.
@TheSteinbitt
@TheSteinbitt 5 ай бұрын
@@jdbmotoit’s a nice car, but it’s dog slow and noisy.
@RB-pi3jl
@RB-pi3jl 11 ай бұрын
Remind me never to lend Kyle my EV to range test.
@austina4189
@austina4189 11 ай бұрын
Batteries are designed with a safety buffer for a reason. If you saw how safe the cells were below 0% and at shutdown, you'd never worry again
@MrSparsilis
@MrSparsilis 11 ай бұрын
Sure same like 120 w chargers for phones it's 'safe' nothing to worry about :D
@matt45540
@matt45540 11 ай бұрын
It's wear and tear, doing full discharges and fast charging to full​@@austina4189
@brandenflasch
@brandenflasch 11 ай бұрын
Totally fine unless you’re doing this everyday
@mykaljoseph
@mykaljoseph 11 ай бұрын
😂
@gelu88
@gelu88 11 ай бұрын
The 100kwh pack is basically two standard range 55kwh ioniq 5 / ev6 pack paralleled together. They are the same voltage.
@anthemite3176
@anthemite3176 11 ай бұрын
As another data point, we have just over 1,000 mi in our RWD Long Range model and are averaging 250mi of range on fwy with 75mph speed limits (averaging 73 usually on the fwy, using HDA2 to maintain speed limit or slow as needed with traffic etc). This is mostly in ideal temps (60s-70s). On city streets and even mountain roads (slower speeds), we get closer to 300mi, but unfortunately most our driving is on freeway and with sub par charging availability we are arriving with only 13pct left at times…good to know we can squeeze out more range if needed but hopefully we don’t ever test near or at 0pct :)
@caliosman
@caliosman 10 ай бұрын
Try Regen Level3 in Auto Mode to get maximize Range
@spacefreeze
@spacefreeze 10 ай бұрын
I have the gt line and in 35 degree weather with mixed driving I’m getting 309 miles of range on full charge.
@jdbmoto
@jdbmoto 11 ай бұрын
While not an “ideal range test” this is the real world test. The weather will never be perfect for those who own one to eek every mile out of the pack.
@CarSceneKorea
@CarSceneKorea 10 ай бұрын
The ultimate battery test I've watched on KZbin thus far 😱🙌
@garyclark6747
@garyclark6747 11 ай бұрын
Nice range test for sure. You are correct that you would have run it similarly had you hit the turn around the exit before. The EV9 deserves every mile counted above 55MPH as Highway range test and recognition for every mile driven. 39:28
@TillOverHill
@TillOverHill 10 ай бұрын
Love to see a manual preconditioning button! Absolutely the best way to do it.
@TNitroH
@TNitroH 11 ай бұрын
"Take it To the Limit One more Time" Out of Spec Style all the way! Go Kyle!!!!!!!
@brandenflasch
@brandenflasch 11 ай бұрын
EV9 seems to rock! That’s a solid range figure.
@jonathanjackson9208
@jonathanjackson9208 10 ай бұрын
The exact specs I would want in my EV9. Color choice is also spot on!
@bobbyfaison1901
@bobbyfaison1901 11 ай бұрын
And this is why you guys are the best.
@anoopseera
@anoopseera 10 ай бұрын
Wowsers! Such commitment to try maintain the integrity of the test! Great stuff! Look forward to your reflections once you have had time to recharge the Kia and yourself. All the best.
@vikssars
@vikssars 2 ай бұрын
Damn, I am watchin and posting my expression today 09/03. I am an proud owner of Land Model with extra package and truly loves the car after 4 weeks of ownership. Yesterday I did my first short-long trip from Louisville KY to Mason OH which is passed Cinncy. I charged my car to 80% with total range is 280, the total distamce was 97 Miles each way, mid 70 temp, 4 passenger. by the time I arrived doing 80-90 miles speed using full AC, using 0 regen on climb and level 3 on down grades. I still had 162 miles range, which I think is okay as I was using AC, music BUT I did not used any Automation in drive. no cruise becaouse I wanted to have a control how much power I am going to send and was tapping and tapping on climb, but I did not at all drove below 80. lol I had the plan to charge on EA as I had family with me and do not wanted to take any chances, but what the heck when I started back and by the time I reached back to main Cincy I had 140 range left and my distance was 97 miles. remember I was doing this for the first time and I had no help other than calling Kia roadside if something goes wrong. any way for me the best calculation was how much I used while coming ( it was close to 120 range and I still had 140) and long story short by the time I reached home, I still had 46 mile range, after some time I went for grocery shopping, wash the car and when I reached EA 15KWH charging station I still had 23 miles to go. lol. charge it back to 90%, took 41 minutes and cost was $18.17 @.44 per min. pretty good. Now based on my this trip and after watching your video, I gain tons of confidence and planning to drive to Chicago next week, which will be Louisville to Lafayette 180 miles, charge to 90 or 100% and then straight to Chicago. by the way you all know, by Law these charging station can not charge you for energy use, they can charge you per minute. I did not know that, until I just saw my receipt, which is .44 per minute*41Minute= 18.04 Ev9 is a great car and it has lot more feature compared to my MDX, Over all all I have spend like 60-70, Compares to MDX I would have 3 fills with each costing me $70 . Thanks again for posting.
@MrNicholg
@MrNicholg 10 ай бұрын
So what do we take this to mean? 250 miles of highway range? 265 miles? A real summary or at least more clear highlights of actual mileage driven at 70mph and real usable range would be helpful. Sometimes you guys focus on kwh on a miles driven test or miles driven on the 10% challenge test when time is really the issue there.
@sp3lllz
@sp3lllz 11 ай бұрын
I have a feeling in a few years these will have taken over the roads. Honestly the base model seems like the one to get in my eyes though especially if its job most of the time is taking the family around town.
@CrumResearch
@CrumResearch 11 ай бұрын
kids will feel like royalty with massaging captain's chairs in second row -- spoiling them?
@TedTed-xh1ys
@TedTed-xh1ys 10 ай бұрын
I have a feeling in about 6 months you can buy one for 15 to 25% off MSRP because no one is actually buying them.
@CrumResearch
@CrumResearch 10 ай бұрын
@@TedTed-xh1ys That would be really nice to see price of the EV9 go down 25%. Love how the Highway Driving Assist autopilot feature does not require the driver to touch the steering wheel. No nagging, more like Openpilot (and OP works well on Kia vehicles, so open source is even an option for engineers who get the EV9). Great new model, go Kia.
@RobbieFitzgerald
@RobbieFitzgerald 8 ай бұрын
For me the middle trim is necessary for the heat pump alone, at least in Canada.
@GudieveNing
@GudieveNing 7 ай бұрын
​@@TedTed-xh1yspeople are buying them. Lots of them. See then on the roads here in UK.
@mattbell87
@mattbell87 11 ай бұрын
The live stream was so much fun.
@CrumResearch
@CrumResearch 11 ай бұрын
so many questions answered, and HDA discussed (with no nagging!) nicely, thanks!
@zruler88
@zruler88 10 ай бұрын
Suggestion... Brother, really love ur super detailed spec. Kindly put chapters to make ur viewer's viewing easy. Thank U.
@jasonblair4057
@jasonblair4057 11 ай бұрын
Wow that was a crazy test. It went so far when it was at 3%. That is a very good buffer below 0%.
@heisenballs
@heisenballs 10 ай бұрын
would be interested to see how well it does in a year or two.
@merodobson
@merodobson 10 ай бұрын
I'm at 3k miles on my EV9, currently 2.5 mi/Kwh. Having a blast with it!
@hotdognobun
@hotdognobun 10 ай бұрын
Which trim did you go for?
@merodobson
@merodobson 10 ай бұрын
@@hotdognobun GT. I'm at 4.3k now and 3 mi/Kwh which is signs the battery is just breaking in and performing up to spec.
@GenieFarms
@GenieFarms 8 ай бұрын
​@@merodobsonso how did you get it so efficient?
@merodobson
@merodobson 8 ай бұрын
@@GenieFarms efficiency average on mine is now 3 mi/kwh. I did nothing special. I home charge overnights on the provided cable and supercharge at stations as needed on road trips. Almost 8k total miles now!
@GenieFarms
@GenieFarms 8 ай бұрын
@@merodobson how is the charging on road trips? And what is the max range you say that you get?
@rocketrollsvlogs7625
@rocketrollsvlogs7625 10 ай бұрын
Dammit, i missed the livestream for this one. This was a classic. Great EV, great KZbin entertainment. I could have just listened to Kyle on a podcast for this one.
@evkx
@evkx 11 ай бұрын
Oh man. Stayed awake to 3.am to see what happened on the livestream. Epic run!
@JonathanRootD
@JonathanRootD 11 ай бұрын
I was able to get 250 miles of range in the chilly rain with 6% left. Probably still had 40 miles left 😂
@stevenichols4639
@stevenichols4639 11 ай бұрын
If you got 250 miles out of 94% of your battery you had at most 15 to 20 miles
@TecnamTwin
@TecnamTwin 10 ай бұрын
​@@stevenichols4639 He's including the large buffer below zero.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 11 ай бұрын
This is plenty of range. This is an excellent EV. If only it could get the full tax credit.
@4literv6
@4literv6 11 ай бұрын
It's being built in West point GA from late 2024 using sk innovation cells from commerce, and possibly also getting built in the all new hyundai metaplant in Savannah Georgia from 2025. So it should qualify for half or all the credit by then? I think Kia is switching to native nacs in 2025 to.
@sktona
@sktona 11 ай бұрын
It’s excellent, as long as the government subsidizes it… in other words: a massive waste of resources.
@cranburydad
@cranburydad 11 ай бұрын
Kia gives you the $7,500 credit if you lease.
@LearningFast
@LearningFast 11 ай бұрын
@@cranburydad that is correct.
@izgoy-club
@izgoy-club 10 ай бұрын
It’s not plenty of range. If you think 260 miles is plenty of range, you’ve never taken a long road trip in an EV.
@berthogendoorn2133
@berthogendoorn2133 11 ай бұрын
Kia rocks, the EV6 is a car of the Year candidate for sure.
@andrewroberts1787
@andrewroberts1787 11 ай бұрын
At 26:55 it looks like 6% left after 233.3 miles of an honest 70mph so 248 miles of range from 100-0. The fact there is a huge buffer below 0% and if you drive slower than 70mph and even coast in neutral etc you can go way further than you might expect is interesting to know but can't be counted as part of actual customer expected 70mph range. Still a good result for a big brick though, especially given the temperature!
@ayushmalpeddi2793
@ayushmalpeddi2793 10 ай бұрын
I'd say around 260 with more ideal conditions. That's actually solid versus its range rating. Only problem is with cargo, passengers, all vents inside running, going 75, more extreme temps, and battery degredation, the range could fall closer to 220 miles. Still a decent figure given its capability and price. On par with a Model Y Long Range/Performance
@toddkovalcik332
@toddkovalcik332 10 ай бұрын
@@ayushmalpeddi2793 I would like to see a test with 7-8 people on board since that is why people buy large 3 row SUV's, to fill them up and get a lot of utility out of them. In theory, that would be a cargo of 1,000-1,500 lbs. It will always be difficult to compare a 3 row ICE vehicle to an and EV due to how much more capable an ICE SUV is at hauling cargo, towing, etc. Not a diss on EV's, just a real world look at the capabilities of each.
@Jas297
@Jas297 9 ай бұрын
I have the EV6 with almost 40k miles on it. Really impressed with Kia as the EV6 has been great. This car looks awesome!
@DoubleCTech
@DoubleCTech 11 ай бұрын
The slow acceleration at the end reminded me of when I decided to drain my Kona EV to its limits. It no joke took 1/2 mile to get up to 30mph from a dead stop on the homestretch. 😂 I live on a main road so I just put my flashers on and was apologizing to everyone in my head. 😅 The EV9 range is extremely impressive. It’s just slightly out of my price range otherwise I would definitely consider it.
@samatwesu
@samatwesu 11 ай бұрын
What a trip! Nice job Kyle!!!
@commanderroddi7742
@commanderroddi7742 8 ай бұрын
What Kia did with this car is GENIUS! They made a minivan disguised as a crossover SzuV.
@R56Cooper
@R56Cooper 11 ай бұрын
Hi Kyle, how does HDA2 compare with HDA1? Does it keep the ev9 even more centered in its lane on highway curves? What's the difference between the two HDAs? Also special request for an HDA2 review on Hogback! Thanks!
@matthewjohnson7350
@matthewjohnson7350 10 ай бұрын
Kia EV 9 is a very compelling EV, closest I have been tempted yet to switch from Tesla. I test drove an Ioniq 6, and a Mercedes EQE AMG, which were both compellling, but this EV 9 in the 305 mile range version is VERY tempting
@izgoy-club
@izgoy-club 10 ай бұрын
LOL. Did you check the horsepower in your 305-mile range EV9? It has one rear motor with 215 HP with 7.7 seconds 0-60. In a modern EV, you are getting 7.7 seconds 0-60? Telluride with its underpowered V6 can do 0-60 in 7.0 seconds. LOL
@OlJackBurton
@OlJackBurton 10 ай бұрын
@@izgoy-club if you care about your expensive tires that will have to replaced frequently from all that torque and weight, you won't care so much about 0-60...
@sdube1000
@sdube1000 10 ай бұрын
And telluride it is not underpowered i hâve one
@izgoy-club
@izgoy-club 10 ай бұрын
@@sdube1000it’s not underpowered because you own it? I see.
@TreDeuce-qw3kv
@TreDeuce-qw3kv 10 ай бұрын
$2.79 for Regular! We are still paying around $4.00 here in the NW/Oregon. Will be glad when I have an EV and can charge at home @ $0.13 per KW. The way i drive, I could probably get around 300-miles out of the KIA.
@DarylOster
@DarylOster 10 ай бұрын
That's an expensive place here in CO. The new QT on i-25 and 119 is in to $2.09 to $2.19 range...
@TannerBugatti
@TannerBugatti 11 ай бұрын
It'd be interesting to see a video of a gas vehicle and an EV reporting the same range being taken through some hills and windy scenarios to see how much it affects each vehicle.
@Ficon
@Ficon 11 ай бұрын
Would need to be a PHEV to have the same 250-ish miles. Or a hard-driven Mustang GT.
@Ficon
@Ficon 11 ай бұрын
@@sktona Do you drive more than 250 miles a day? I drive 30 and plug in at home at night.
@stevemcgowen
@stevemcgowen 10 ай бұрын
That's the funny thing about the anti ev crowd. Americans drive less than 40 miles a day on average, but the antis all seem to commute 500 mies each way to work everyday...@@Ficon
@danburkland
@danburkland 10 ай бұрын
@@sktonayea I’d beg to differ and have been driving EVs up in Minnesota for 5+ years now. Frequently traveling long distances with temps below -20F.
@Molishious
@Molishious 10 ай бұрын
EV’s don’t go as far, but they are much more efficient. So when you are going shorter distances which is most of the time you are better off. It’s those times when you are taking those long trips that they are at a disadvantage. That’s pretty rare for me though so I think an EV would suit me pretty well. My PHEV is more convenient when heading out of town, but I want to drive in EV mode all of the time because I enjoy it more.
@markgeezey1809
@markgeezey1809 11 ай бұрын
I take it Kyle in the US the EV9 doesn’t come with the Digital Grill lighting pattern? This makes the EV9 look stunning. I believe it is coming to Europe and UK early next year. Basically it’s hidden led’s in the actual front grill that appear of a night and have many different patterns that you will beable to purchase from kia. Also something I think unique is it has a speaker ability so the driver can talk to the row 3 passengers via the speaker system.
@anthemite3176
@anthemite3176 11 ай бұрын
Yes it’s on the GT line…with lighting patterns that can be unlocked behind a subscription fee (no thanks:)
@alancobbin
@alancobbin 11 ай бұрын
EPIC TEST,NICE ONE KIA,HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS 👍😉💪
@COSolar6419
@COSolar6419 11 ай бұрын
I think it is fair to take advantage of the solar load from the glass roof for warmth, assuming you can close it as well.
@dennismccool8760
@dennismccool8760 10 ай бұрын
After watching this entire video, I never learned how many MiLES the Cybertruck went. Only techy talk about miles per kw hr, etc. How far did it go from full to dead stop at 0??
@boinknook
@boinknook 11 ай бұрын
Great test. In the real world even with gasoline, you never want to attempt this. My old bronco ll was an absolute gas hog! It would've never made it that far. That was a heavy truck. 😂
@ab3000x
@ab3000x 11 ай бұрын
Shtats - you know you're the American Bjørn Nyland. This vehicle is awesome. Great video.
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways 11 ай бұрын
At the moment, I drive a Renault Zoe. It’s the best car I’ve ever driven and it’s been 99.999% reliable and is capable of doing the Broxbourne to Brighton trip when I go on holiday on a single charge.
@davidmenasco5743
@davidmenasco5743 11 ай бұрын
Not enough people appreciate the utility of these relatively economical cars. The Leaf also has quite a loyal following.
@bartwaggoner2000
@bartwaggoner2000 11 ай бұрын
A reliable French car - zut alors!
@dzonikg
@dzonikg 11 ай бұрын
@@bartwaggoner2000 Renault makes reliable small cars but bigger is another story ,i bought renault clio 1.5 DCI in 2003 ,that car i swear could heal it self ,it had totaly 0 problems for 10 year i drove it (200k km in 10 years) ,even if some problem appear would just go away by it self .I even fall in 2 river with it in winter ,whole engine was in ice oold water for hours .And after 2 days i started it and it worked with 0 flaws. So based on that i bought much bigger Renault Senic 1.9 DCI and it was totaly different expirence ,car even left me 2 times on the road which never happened me on any other car (and my first car was Yugo which in USA was worst car ever) . I still have that clio ,siting in backyards ,i did not want to sell it ,its amazingly reliably
@izgoy-club
@izgoy-club 10 ай бұрын
What did you drive before the Zoe? Trabant or Lada?
@Madonsteamrailways
@Madonsteamrailways 10 ай бұрын
@@izgoy-club Neither!! I had a Honda Jazz!! It was a good car, but no longer was meeting my requirements. There are too many bad things about petrol and diesel cars, one of which being the catalytic converter!! Thieves love them!!
@commanderroddi7742
@commanderroddi7742 8 ай бұрын
Land on ice green would be my choice. May trade in my Ioniq 5 for the extra seats and cargo room...
@jake-ly
@jake-ly 11 ай бұрын
I hope this range wil be enough in the near future for road trips, I still feel the longer range of Rivians or others is better than the faster charging speeds of the EV9. Since most chargers can't take advantage of it yet, and range between chargers in the US is still sparse in many areas.
@shaunguimond
@shaunguimond 11 ай бұрын
I have an Ioniq 5 and can say for certain I would take the faster charging speed over range (above 250 miles). I did a 6500 mile roadtrip from Vancouver to Estes Park, going through remote areas like Yellowstone, Arches, etc... and the faster charging speed was used almost exclusively. Average charge time was like 20 minutes, and I would often arrive after other vehicles and leave before them. More charges need to be built for sure, especially in remote regions, but already you can take advantage of the faster charging!
@jake-ly
@jake-ly 11 ай бұрын
Maybe its better there, but here the only chargers we have over 200kwh is really EA, but the 350s are load shared often and rarely even get up to 200. I've also seen that the Tesla magic docks cap at 150, at least with the Rivian. Its definitely the future, but I've really struggled to actually see good numbers worth the extra capability.
@davidmenasco5743
@davidmenasco5743 11 ай бұрын
You raise a good question. In Europe, the charging curve is by far the most important factor. Hopefully this will be the case everywhere in the US very soon. There are a lot of fast chargers being built now. The Pilot/Flying J stations are just one example.
@CSAFMedia
@CSAFMedia 10 ай бұрын
For owners looking for a light offroader/overlander the EV9 might be a lower cost more efficient 36:48 Rivian R1S at 2.7 mi/kWh on a 40 degree.
@gdavejr
@gdavejr 5 ай бұрын
Your content is so helpful! Love hearing your thoughts and opinions on EV's, thanks!
@buddyochoa2
@buddyochoa2 10 ай бұрын
Would be cool to see a 10% challenge between the large and small packs someday.
@trevorross1311
@trevorross1311 11 ай бұрын
This was so nail biting to watch coming down to the end,but the car is pretty nice.And reasonable for 60k.
@jimmurphy5355
@jimmurphy5355 11 ай бұрын
Air density is a very significant factor. Testing at a mile high will give better range than those of us near sea level will get. Something I think you ought to mention when you do these tests. Good for cmparison between cars that you do all the testing on the same loop. How much do you think (in percent) would be lost if you were at ~ sea level?
@concinnus
@concinnus 11 ай бұрын
A quick table check says density is 15% down. Given that highway losses are overwhelmingly aero, expect more than 10% range loss at sea level.
@heisenballs
@heisenballs 10 ай бұрын
@@concinnus Just drive a little slower.
@MrTobex21
@MrTobex21 6 ай бұрын
This is one of the reason why i swapped my tesla model 3 for EV9. Need more space for family and the amazing range is really impressive.
@James_Ryan
@James_Ryan 11 ай бұрын
Range testing with balls! To think someone accused Kyle of copying Bjorn on the livestream - I'll bet they thought differently towards the end! 🤣
@matthewjohnson7350
@matthewjohnson7350 10 ай бұрын
Awesome reaction at the end by Kyle! Talk about cutting it close!!! 😎💪
@magnuslarsson337
@magnuslarsson337 11 ай бұрын
Kyle, the middle row captains seat on the rear side moves further forward than the one on the left side. I bet it will be the opposite in the RHD-models in 🇬🇧, 🇯🇵& 🇦🇺
@puffnstuff12
@puffnstuff12 11 ай бұрын
I think you should run it the way a typical family would when testing range so people can get a better idea of what to expect if they were to get one. Hypermiling is a best case scenario which is not realistic.
@davidmenasco5743
@davidmenasco5743 11 ай бұрын
This test is to establish some baseline information about the EV, which can't really be obtained any other way. To see how it does on a road trip, look for Bjørn Nyland's 1,000 km Challenge videos. It's not exactly how a family would drive, but it does give a very useful comparison between cars taking all the relevant factors into consideration. In reality, the typical family with kids would charge for a longer time than necessary at each stop, and this would make charging speed and range a non issue.
@rahrah8969
@rahrah8969 11 ай бұрын
I agree. Not sure you can get much out of this. Real world testing would be better. No one would want to drive their EV the way he did on this test.
@isu-easytax
@isu-easytax 11 ай бұрын
We currently have ev9 in Korea. It's winter in Korea, so it's usually -5 degrees Celsius, but I could drive about 490km when I drove about 50:50 on the city. I hope it helps
@Dqtube
@Dqtube 11 ай бұрын
It's not that hard to estimate. Look at the time of 24:10, when the car had 25% battery and 198 miles on the odometer. That means that with a more typical 10-85% charge scenario and a 70mph speed, you can get 190 miles of range out of this car.
@rcoplien
@rcoplien 10 ай бұрын
Really need evs that csn go over 400 miles otherwise its not worth it. Also cold weather is a huge factor on batteries.
@Alexdiaz727
@Alexdiaz727 11 ай бұрын
When you talk about the climate control on the range tests it would be nice if your talk about if the car has a heat pump. Or have heat pumps become the standard in all new EVs? edit: See you mention it later in the video at 22:50 ish would still be nice to mention during the charge up. Kind of an overview of range effecting systems.
@ufookoro1
@ufookoro1 11 ай бұрын
The best range test ever Like watching a movie
@ThaBlackCobra
@ThaBlackCobra 8 ай бұрын
That was an amazing test and I just happen to buy that exact vehicle in that exact color so I am happy that it did so well😊
@Dralonet
@Dralonet 10 ай бұрын
Please add KM celsius and so on and you will get viewers outside usa.
@robert65755
@robert65755 10 ай бұрын
No heat pump in any of the Light versions, including long range. No 2nd row bench seat in Light long range. I test drove and did not like the 2nd row Captains chairs. No NACS connector yet. Dealers are selling at MSRP. But financing is currently to high.$7,500 off Kia rebate for leases only. Wonder if you can disconnect front drive and get better range in dual motor versions or does the higher 283kw motor in the rear reduce mileage on the dual motor version? I think Kyle talked about trying not to use the front drive motor to increase mileage.
@dc18616
@dc18616 11 ай бұрын
it will be interesting how people will like this car compared to other ev.
@Mobile_Dom
@Mobile_Dom 10 ай бұрын
as someone that wants to replicate these tests on the other side of the pond, is there anything I'm missing: - 70mph for as long as possible - eco mode - 60-72f (15-22c) HVAC - smooth accel to 70mph - arrive back at the charger at 0% or near as damn it.
@dmocksautosnstuff
@dmocksautosnstuff 9 ай бұрын
Why would I want to give almost $40 just to get about 280 miles to empty for $50-$60 I can get 450-570 of gas range in my jeep grand Cherokee L on a full tank. Basically the same cost for almost same distance and it took me 3 time less of the time to fill up. It shouldn’t cost so much to fill up you EV battery vehicle $20 should be the most and that sounds expensive as well
@RobbieFitzgerald
@RobbieFitzgerald 8 ай бұрын
Why the hell do you have a 120 mi difference in your range? Most EV owners charge at home, for a lot less.
@summertyme5748
@summertyme5748 6 ай бұрын
He isn’t getting 570 miles in that car and he knows it. That car has a 23 gallon tank, and at almost $4 a gallon thats $90 bucks - not 50 - 60, big difference. ICE mongers always pretend they are getting a good deal only when they are coping with electric cars. Otherwise all they have ever done - FOREVER - is complain about pain at the pump.
@zakbronson9637
@zakbronson9637 8 ай бұрын
I had fun watching this, thanks for the great video
@efallser123
@efallser123 10 ай бұрын
Great test. It shows you what hoops you have to jump through. This is unrealistic not real life situation but great For the audience
@Aj-cg6be
@Aj-cg6be 10 ай бұрын
I think it makes sense to range test 3 row EVs with more than 1 person or equivalent weight in it. In my experience EV range is more sensitive to weight, gradient etc compared to their gas counterparts
@jeffreylongoc
@jeffreylongoc 11 ай бұрын
Im seeing 346 mile range on our Light Long Range with all powers off.
@anthemite3176
@anthemite3176 11 ай бұрын
What does “with all powers off” refer to? (Driver assist / AC etc?) We have over 1000mi so far on our LLR and are only averaging 250mi but that’s all in 75-80mph speed limit fwy zones which I know limits range unfortunately
@jeffreylongoc
@jeffreylongoc 11 ай бұрын
@@anthemite3176 no heater ac radio anything just to see. I havnt traveled 346miles only see guesstimate on the dash. Still pretty cool. I owned Telluride, EV6GT now EV9 Light Longrange love it fast charging
@Kahlua2012
@Kahlua2012 10 ай бұрын
I have the LLR too and have been mostly doing city driving so far. After my first charge, I got a guesstimate of 349 miles. I’m sure that will change soon after some traveling
@jeffreylongoc
@jeffreylongoc 10 ай бұрын
Im getting 265 @80% so far. @@anthemite3176
@martindeporres9251
@martindeporres9251 10 ай бұрын
Enjoyed the range review because of the NOT ideal conditions which is pretty much the real world in regional and outback Australia. They really need to change the name of that convenience store btw.
@Gryllus2501
@Gryllus2501 11 ай бұрын
if wasn't for Kyle's expert EV driving skills the Kia would be out of juice miles before the charger site. Good Job for an exciting ev drive. Seems the Kia EV9 is pretty good for an 3 row top trim EV.
@trstnhn
@trstnhn 10 ай бұрын
Except we don't know how much battery it had remaining by the time they pulled up to the charger so how can you say that.
@andr0373
@andr0373 10 ай бұрын
I like the range tests, however one thing that is hard to test and isn't discussed in the battery longevity. We have some long term data for this for older EVs and most of the Teslas, but a lot of the concern for me with these other EVs is the pack degradation. I can trust Testla pretty well as they share their data and the lower range EVs (e.g., Leaf) because the loss of range has less effect/battery less expensive. Along these lines I think Tesla achieves this low degradation through engineered hardware/software pack management, some other do as well but you have to dig to figure that out. Keep on drainin. Cheers.
@kanguin23
@kanguin23 10 ай бұрын
Don't forget those are all tesla numbers they release, they lie about range so they are probably lying about the degradation as well.
@andr0373
@andr0373 10 ай бұрын
@@kanguin23 how so? Seems to be pretty accurate to all the anecdotal reports from high mileage teslas, mine included
@harriska
@harriska 11 ай бұрын
Whoever came up with "kum and go" should be fired, why doesnt it say kome?
@dailycruise8550
@dailycruise8550 11 ай бұрын
Only comment I have is about the tires. The Ion Evo aren’t EV adapted they are ground up EV specific tires. Not an adapted tire. Hankook has a whole line of Ion Evo tires from summer to winter and the all seasons.
@_shreyash_anand
@_shreyash_anand 11 ай бұрын
They are wide though. Why does a family SUV need 285s? I mean it's cool it does, but does it need them?
@dailycruise8550
@dailycruise8550 11 ай бұрын
@@_shreyash_anand I don’t know I was just commenting on the tire itself not the size. I actually have these tires on my ID.4 and love them.
@talpolano4549
@talpolano4549 10 ай бұрын
0:00: 🚗 Highway range test of Kia EV9 GT-Line AWD 99.8kWh with 10% challenge and DC charging. 4:12: 🔋 Range and charging performance test of Kia EV9 GT-Line AWD with 99.8kWh battery. 8:05: 🚗 Insights on battery break-in, storage, and voltage range in a new EV. 12:16: 🔌 Unusual charging behavior experienced during test drive of Kia EV9 GT-Line AWD. 16:52: 🚗 Highway range test in a Kia EV9 GT-Line AWD with a 99.8kWh battery, cruising at 70 mph and crossing into Wyoming. 20:59: 🚗 Highway range test of Kia EV9 GT-Line AWD below 0% state of charge. 25:32: ⚡ Challenging situation driving an electric vehicle below 0% charge on a highway test. 30:00: 🚗 Kia EV9 GT-Line AWD 99.8kWh range test pushing below 0% 34:55: 🚗 High-speed test drive of a Kia EV9 with a large battery pack, pushing it to its limits and successfully recharging. Recap by Tammy AI
@BilltheTulaneGuy
@BilltheTulaneGuy 10 ай бұрын
Our 2022 EV6 Limited has been a great car. Range avgs 265.
@keco185
@keco185 11 ай бұрын
It's weird how the NHTSA has been pushing Tesla to require so much attention to the road when using autopilot yet this thing is like "do whatever idc"
@symawd
@symawd 11 ай бұрын
My Genesis was like this. On straight roads I could pretty much go forever hands-free, but once the car saw a curve coming up it would require a touch on the steering wheel.
@stevenichols4639
@stevenichols4639 11 ай бұрын
I have no idea why Nhtsa hates Tesla. They got tagged with a 2 million car recall to make it more stringent than it was which is more stringent than anybody else.
@brianamick3731
@brianamick3731 2 ай бұрын
@@stevenichols4639 Our '21 MYLR phantom braked so hard and so often on I-70 from Colorado to Kansas City I couldn't use Autopilot.
@gluintar
@gluintar Ай бұрын
@@stevenichols4639liberals are always misusing laws for political gain.
@Maniac_Sniper
@Maniac_Sniper 20 күн бұрын
Sounds good. But what happens if you're going out a long trip after you waste that battery.... How long does it take to charge before you can do another 300 Miles. ?
@carsnboats5901
@carsnboats5901 9 ай бұрын
I noticed 2.7 M/KwH on the cars trip info summary. How does this compare to other EVs you have made that same trip with? I notice you dont mention that M/Kwh number very often. I feel like its our best way to compare EV efficiency to ICE cars and mpg. What do you think and do you think those numbers on the trip summary are accurate? Im just about at one year of owning my EV6 and the long range summary says 3.7 M/Kwh.
@DreamCarGarage1
@DreamCarGarage1 2 ай бұрын
@37:41 ...and just 2 hrs and 20 minutes to charge (in the middle of a journey) is a very reasonable amount of time too!
@nevco8774
@nevco8774 10 ай бұрын
I believe this car with NACS adapter or even native connector would be a wonderful vehicle. Being so large and returning almost the range of Tesla Model Y long range 70 mph range is impressive. Besides this is hands down better vehicle than Tesla.
@leos7471
@leos7471 10 ай бұрын
Interesting how Hyundai / Kia doesn’t get any flak for their non-linear state of charge display. Björn confirmed it drops faster from 50% to 0% than from 100% to 50%
@gregyohngy
@gregyohngy 10 ай бұрын
You used the Car Scanner App. What OBD2 plug do you suggest using? I have a 2017 Fiat 500e.
@dandaigle4546
@dandaigle4546 10 ай бұрын
this is a sharp looking vehicle, my kind of car, thanks for the information
@marcellog
@marcellog 8 ай бұрын
I missed it. How far did he get on a full charge???
@bradydeslippe1700
@bradydeslippe1700 10 ай бұрын
My sole concern with this vehicle is having child seats in the second row. In vehicles like the VW Atlas I can put child seats in both second row captain's chairs and when I pull the manual lever to flip the second row seat and access the third row the second row seat pivots forwards with the car seat still in (i.e. the backrest doesn't bend like the EV9 does). I wonder if having a car seat in there would still rock the seat forward.
@Anthony__420
@Anthony__420 10 ай бұрын
I love when Kyle trys to explain moving the goalposts 😂
@GRANTTRAUBable
@GRANTTRAUBable 10 ай бұрын
can you charge at Tesla super chargers?
@craigw219
@craigw219 10 ай бұрын
Kyle please do some videos on the BMW iX3 M Sport!
@joed6850
@joed6850 11 ай бұрын
It is disappointing that a heat pump and 360 camera cannot be added to the long range trim.
@anthemite3176
@anthemite3176 11 ай бұрын
FWIW the Long range model has an overhead car image with 360 visual indicators in the form of color coded lines that so far are just as helpful as the camera images, at least for me as i rely on that feature to park in a relatively tight 2 car garage)
@joed6850
@joed6850 11 ай бұрын
@@anthemite3176 interesting. I didn't know this and I'd be using it for parking in a small garage as well. Thanks
@warrenfitzpatrick7338
@warrenfitzpatrick7338 5 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting. I was considering it.
@moedog20
@moedog20 10 ай бұрын
This was a nail biter great video looking forward to 10% challenge
@Ficon
@Ficon 11 ай бұрын
The EV9 absolutely obliterates the Model Y in every way. Tech, packaging, features, styling, automation, and yes it even gets advertised range.
@Juuythljgrrdwq
@Juuythljgrrdwq 11 ай бұрын
Including price 🤣🤣🧨
@Ficon
@Ficon 11 ай бұрын
@@Juuythljgrrdwq 🤡 The prices overlap enough that if you need a sleek modern 3-row and not a 7-year-old suppository that delivers 80% of advertised mileage, it’s a no-brainier.
@Juuythljgrrdwq
@Juuythljgrrdwq 11 ай бұрын
@@Ficon the model y is for sure much better and half the price !
@Ficon
@Ficon 11 ай бұрын
@@Juuythljgrrdwq 46 is half of 55. Typical Tesla zombie.
@Juuythljgrrdwq
@Juuythljgrrdwq 11 ай бұрын
@@Ficon where i live the STANDARD kia ev9 (basic one 99kwh) is 2x the price of a model y standard range… no fake news or MW3 zombies just facts. You should try to taste some
@petertewilliger1052
@petertewilliger1052 10 ай бұрын
I wish this test could have been done without the 20 degree temperature drop! Also, does auto steer reduce range? I know they do it with every for consistency, but i wonder if it does.
@kia
@kia 10 ай бұрын
Horizons unlocked! ✅
@ouch1011
@ouch1011 10 ай бұрын
This only gets slightly worse efficiency than my Ioniq5 Ltd at 70mph and similar temperatures (about 10%). Not sure whether that is impressive for the EV9 or embarrassing for the Ioniq5 (or both) I would have been curious to see what the _cell_ voltage was at completely dead. Battery voltage doesn’t really mean anything (as long as it doesn’t go below 400V)
@Visualhead_Spacer
@Visualhead_Spacer 10 ай бұрын
i love kia/hyundai egmp. Though if you have 5-6 people with you plus some cargo, it may be a different result.
@bradswanson6788
@bradswanson6788 11 ай бұрын
Man I miss the big skies out west.
@nobodynobody1235
@nobodynobody1235 11 ай бұрын
If this EV9 can be charged at Tesla Supercharger as well as embed the charging map into the navigation, it will be an awesome SUV
@anthemite3176
@anthemite3176 11 ай бұрын
It will be able to use Tesla/NACS by late 2024 and the chargers are integrated into navigation, but not as cleanly as in a Tesla
@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM
@NO_OPEC_NO_PROBLEM 10 ай бұрын
HA HA! 1% with 18mi to go.. Hmmmm, only Kyle gets excited about that. 0% with 15.5mi, Kyle has some big balls. Better get that Rivian or F150 with 9.6kW power available.
@Galileo9.81
@Galileo9.81 11 ай бұрын
That's a one great looking car for sure,...... If only it had the range close to 350 miles....
@anthemite3176
@anthemite3176 11 ай бұрын
I have the long range model with 305mi of est range but have been averaging 250mi range in 75mph zones in the US (would be more on slower roads of course)
@kennethjoseph4227
@kennethjoseph4227 10 ай бұрын
I'm supposed to have a January/February Cybertruck delivery, but not thinking I'm gonna let it be driven to zero.... Hmmm
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