I EXPOSE THE DARK SECRETS OF USED CAR DEALERSHIPS

[@JoeTalksCars]

Please share this video, spread the word and help others avoid being in this situation. Andy was lucky, you might not be so lucky.

[@cgcars6592]

How about something far more constructive and informative like buying it and spending the money need to get it to an advisory free MOT at your trusted garage?

[@JoeTalksCars]

@ like it!! I can’t see it hitting these views but I live in hope

[@davidchilds1962]

This car dealership is in Worcester, not Birmingham as in your prologue, and they do their own MOT's in the tolladine service garage that they also own...

[@Mr.K01]

So this video was about slandering a family business to get more views grow the channel. Shame.

[@JoeTalksCars]

@ a family business that put a fake MOT on a car, passed it off as and I quote “really really nice thing” oh and a new service that wasn’t done. If you work for the said family business then have a word with yourself. Read the comments, you are on your own with this rather stupid opinion.

[@paulriggers1558]

main dealer mechanic/MOT tester of 45yrs here, the first thing we do is look at the MOT history online, so we have a base from where to start when testing the car, it helps make sure you miss NOTHING on your test. some customers get an independent check done, the best one i have found over the years is the RAC, it usually mirrors my findings. moral of the story - do your homework, tell them you have checked online, and you want a "clean" MOT and full service, with the internal invoice to back it up... ... and NEVER buy a car with a WETBELT...

[@Alanphuphalee]

Hi Paul, I have just passed my MOT testers qaulification a month ago. That is good advise to check MOT history. I have been doing this recently and it does help!

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

The wetbelt point you made; 1000% agree! Avoid avoid avoid!

[@paulriggers1558]

@@Alanphuphalee welcome to the gang ! 3 tips, never test your family or mates cars [make up a garage procedural reason if necessary] always use the mot ramp, [as this is the biggest reason for loosing your licence] finally, if you are not sure, ask a senior colleague for advice, but you must make the final decision... enjoy !

[@paulriggers1558]

@@thewaywardgrape3838 main dealer here, we are currently doing 3 a week, citroens, peugeots, vauxhalls, 4 - 6yrs old, 35 - 60k, but luckily we are nissan dealers, so we can choose how many to do... even better, there is a ford dealer over the road, so it keeps 75% out of our hair... ecoboom + pureshite, they will kill the industry...

[@propanbutan4634]

I always check mot history online anything I find sus no way I would even consider looking at the car.

[@iMANC6ix6ix]

The person who passed the car's MOT should be reported to the authorities. Whoever it is, is putting people's lives at risk. It is a dangerous practice and any sentencing should reflect that.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

Agree. That garage needs to be reported to VOSA.

[@bernie2108]

I bought a car with dodgy i day old mot, reported to authorities, got a shitty repoly back, so why bother ?

[@iMANC6ix6ix]

@bernie2108 They should make the complaints procedure easier for car buyers. In today's society where unscrupulous car dealers are putting profits over safety, car buyers should be in a position to trust the MOT has been carried out correctly. Those MOT inspectors who don't should face a stiff penalty.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Hopefully the video gaining some good views and being shared will get something done.

[@hamster639]

​@@iMANC6ix6ix Just fill in a v17 and dvsa might investigate

[@Wjracer106]

Be carful when buying used cars from Birmingham, Luton and Bradford.

[@paulriggers1558]

birmingistan, lutonistan, bradistan

[@JoeTalksCars]

I mean that’s good advice

[@commenter-hh9mg]

And chipping norton

[@JoeTalksCars]

@ as it turns out 🤣

[@Enochsright]

I'd never buy front any of the above especially Bradford.

[@John-t2v]

Never buy a vehicle from a certain demographic . NEVER EVER

[@JoeTalksCars]

I mean this was meant to be from a reputable family business

[@2Skills4u]

If you mean muslims, I've had 4 Toyotas I bought off them, from Sheffield, Nottingham and Birmingham, never had an issue with any of them, they've always been looked after, fairly priced and 0 rust, and they were all 17-25 year old cars. I've bought a Cupra and a Celica from "British" people and BOTH had severe issues, the Celica had awful rust as well as other problems, the Cupra literally had to have a rebuilt head despite paying a very high price for it being "mint" So there you go, never buy off a "white Brit" I suppose.

[@Dickie_B]

Not all car traders are dodgy!! This annoys me when garages act in this way, as it fuels the publics general opinion of traders. Remember if you’re buying a second car you’re not buying a new one, we send all our cars to an independent MOT station and sell them with a fresh 12 months and we also repair all the failure points and advisories. However people seem to think It is our job to turn them back to as new condition, and then we have to warrant the car for six months afterwards. After the rent and staff are paid it’s an extremely hard way to make a living!

[@paulriggers1558]

yes, i work for a family dealer, we don't make much money on the sale [high prep bills] but they keep coming in for service, mot etc, so it is worth it... the most money we are making is fixing other dealers disgraceful repairs/ missed/dangerous faults, we are fully booked into feb now, and it is only getting worse, how do people sleep at night... and, yes, the customers always thinks a four year old car is brand new...

[@ImpulsiveAndy]

I was under no illusion it was a new car. I'd checked over the condition of the bodywork and interior and was happy. I was told they don't sell cars with any advisories so knowing a bit about MOTs I knew this ruled out a lot of issues. My issue is that I wasn't given a true indication of the mechanical state. If I'd known it needed tyres, subframe bushes, rear axle bushes, the vacuum pipe fixing, a lambda sensor fitting, a front caliper, a rear caliper, a new sump and other bits and pieces, I'd have walked away 😐

[@JoeTalksCars]

Don’t forget they do a full service 👍 apart from they don’t. I understand the comments above and support garages that do right by their customers but not a single dealer should be sticking up for this behaviour. Saying a customer wants an old car making new and how you lose money. Thats the business you choose. I’m a landlord of properties, I make little to no money and anything I do is taxed to high heaven, is it the tenants fault? No it’s my own for choosing this industry. My job is to provide safe and secure housing for people. Car dealers are to supply safe cars. That was not done here and BJH Motors need the MOT licence taking away.

[@CarFocused]

Great video mate. Love the documentary style - you should keep this up, channel will blow up!

[@NeilM1]

You can't trust main dealers either- Bought a year old car "direct from manufacturer" which turned out to need a new automatic gearbox and the first owner was Enterprise! Car was rejected.

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

How did you find out the identity of the previous owner? It'd be useful to know this trick tbh

[@ModernHeroes]

Amazes me that people are still surprised by this - who else other than rental companies are you expecting to be changing their cars at a year old?

[@NeilM1]

@@ModernHeroes for example, Ford Direct and Network Q tell you who the first owner was before you buy the car and the dealers i've used told you not to buy the ex rental ones and stick with the Ford and Vauxhall ex management cars. I expected the same from Skoda - I wouldn't have bought the car if I'd known it was ex rental in the first place

[@ModernHeroes]

@@NeilM1 the majority of “management cars” are rental too, it’s the oldest sales trick in the book. Manufacturers don’t have anywhere near enough “management” to fill every dealership in the country with nearly new used cars.

[@StephenRandall-x6s]

A massive amount of dealer used stock are ex fleet/ rental nowadays-might be one registered owner but hundreds of drivers-all careful obviously! 😂Also dealers have to state somewhere if a car hss been owned by a company and could have had more than one driver-Arnold Clark state this on their used car description when you scroll down the advett.

[@ModernHeroes]

Some of the comments here about buying private because it’ll result in more honesty are amazing - the worst cars I buy into stock as an independent dealer are ones direct from private sellers via platforms like Motorway closely followed by ones that have been part exchanged with faults covered up. Dealers have so much liability now that the majority can’t possibly last selling dodgy unprepared cars to the public.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Seems they have done it all before as well. There is enough online but maybe a 10k view video on KZbin might get the message across to them a little better.

[@Enochsright]

Well said

[@jonny10buds]

I’ve worked in the industry for 40 years, there are excellent and terrible independents and main dealers, the key these days is read the reviews

[@JoeTalksCars]

100% and this was never meant to generalise the industry but it does need sharing and exposing those who don’t play fair.

[@boycie64]

This is a local dealer to me. Shortlisted a Polo GTI these guys had for sale, glad I ended up going elsewhere. Shocking to see such behaviour, thanks for exposing.

[@markbird5461]

Very professional presentation man and great content! Keep it up you'll go far

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you very much!

[@NBR720S]

The only person I trust to do everything right...is me. I buy private and expect to fix stuff - I've not bought a car which has ever really caused me to lose out and I've had knocking engines, whining gearboxes, ABS and traction control lights on at purchase. Although the Cayman is now using oil - I'll probably pull the engine before the summer to investigate.

[@Jimages_uk]

That is alarming, I think I would never buy a used car from a garage that does its own MOTs. But I always get a pre inspection myself when buying, and they have saved me more than once.

[@JoeTalksCars]

@@Jimages_uk it’s scary what goes on. Just glad I thought to share this. It should help a few people.

[@andrewf7822]

Well done for exposing these charlatans Joe.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you!

[@stephenbennett8228]

Well done, Joe, all dealership like this need to be exposed 😡

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you!

[@nigelbryant5932]

Well done for exposing these rogue traders.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you!

[@lawrencewang9048]

I’ve seen a used dealer near me so bad that when a friend bought a car from them, it really horrified me when I saw the 2007 BMW 320d that they sold him; the front had clearly been in an accident at some point and someone had tried to use filler and sandpaper to cover things up. What concerned me more was how the bumper refused to go back on normally, leaving a huge 10mm gap between the adjacent panels; suggesting damage to the chassis. You could honestly slot your pinky finger through! And the lens cleaning jets were left popping out because of the misfit. Inside a lot of plastic and rubber parts had melted like glue, and air con was not working, turned out the belt and crank pulley was on its final legs. And the shamelessness of the dealer to demand £2000

[@hughesy606]

@@lawrencewang9048 I don't even know where to begin with this. But my wife has just informed me that 10mm is not huge.

[@JoeTalksCars]

That’s terrible! It seems they are all over the place.

[@severnsea]

But the problem is nobody bothers taking them to court. So if you buy a bad car and let them off, you're part of the problem. I saw what looked like a decent car for sale recently, sounded too good to be true. It looked mint, 7 years old but had apparently only done 6,000 miles. That sounded odd so I looked closer at the photos. It was clear that the leather driver's seat had been sat in for a lot more than 6,000 miles. So I started by doing a search for reviews of the company on google and sure enough there was a slew of bad reviews about the dealer. Sometimes that's all it takes. Be diligent and remember, if it sounds too good to be true it probably is. Try to get at least a 3 month warranty, then you can take it to a garage after you've bought it and get it checked over, even re-MOT it and if it fails you've got something on them in writing. Ideally get an AA or RAC inspection or take someone you know with you who knows a lot more about cars than you (but not your dad or best mate who think they're an expert). Don't touch it without a test drive - dodgy dealers don't like you test driving their cars so they'll try to put you off. I even avoid test drives "by appointment only" because cars with dodgy engines are often difficult to start or sound rough when cold so they warm then up first. But ideally just buy through a reputable dealer even if it means paying a bit more and saving up a bit longer. If you're desperate get a cheap runabout to tide you over, or just use the bloody bus for a few weeks.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Great advice! Yeah you are right, this may affect them temporarily but it’s just temporary. The business will continue but hopefully now be less tempted to put a bent MOT on

[@seanglossop4777]

Bought a car from Cinch (BMW 3 series 21 plate), car was great but it had just passed the MOT in the BCA centre (parent company that owns cinch and webuyanycar). Brakes were squeaky and worn down, I asked them to be checked to which cinch obliged and the local KwikFit advised new pads and discs all around (which Cinch footed the bill for). I've never trusted any MOT that has been done on a car whilst in the custody of a used car dealership, chances are they have a mate at the local garage who will do MOTs with no advisories.

[@currymuncher9814]

Bit late on this so may not be read. Would getting a pre inspection MOT done be worth it. If there are any major issues or things that the dealer has not informed you of ,would it be enough grounds for automatic return and refund? If so surely worth the $40 /£50 to have it done ?

[@JoeTalksCars]

Yeah that would have saved the saga happening. Can’t be sure but I doubt the garage would allow it but that in itself would be enough to make him walk away. I think he put too much trust in a garage, it’s a shame you can’t but it’s a lesson I guess.

[@NickPeters-zc2ms]

New sub. Feels like the cook report, without the face to face dangerous stuff going on.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you!

[@grizzrs6]

You forget that a used car will have been px by an owner who has known about the faults !!!

[@dannys7795]

buyers are liars (customers)

[@JoeTalksCars]

But the garage is in the business of selling cars. They might get done over but that’s on them to do the due diligence. To then pass it onto a customer when it’s clearly not been near a ramp is criminal. They also claimed to have done a full service, air filter was old and if they had done they would have seen the oil pouring out the sump.

[@EppingForest304]

15 year old Vauxhall hot hatch!… unlikely to have had an easy life!

[@JoeTalksCars]

Yeah I mean that’s a fair comment. The issue here is the fact it’s being sold as really good example, MOT and service but it was anything but good.

[@fasthracing]

ALWAYS pay part of the invoice on a credit card.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Great idea!

[@mikenewbold1699]

You aren't exposing anything look at all these idiot KZbin flippers buying end of life cars for a few hundred quid giving them a polish and selling for 1500. The whole used car market is a joke now because of people like this. I'll only buy used cars off old people now tbh

[@zowahh]

Don’t think because someone’s old you can trust them lol at least with garage you can just return it and get full refund. You’d want some margin in it too if you’re on the hook for any repairs on a banger for the next 6 months.

[@mikenewbold1699]

@zowahh I buy cheap cars to drive them not to sell to someone poor bugger at 3x price

[@JoeTalksCars]

Yeah I mean I’ve always thought this with the £700 Range Rover videos popping up.

[@Strider9655]

Dealers like to put a dodgy MOT on a car, knowing that you won't find out about any issues until 12 months later, by which time you have no recourse. I think most of them do it and they're helped by the unwitting customer actually wanting a full MOT on the vehicle.

[@benholden7356]

How do you know the problems weren’t fixed hence the price raise ?

[@johnmehaffey9953]

Here in Northern Ireland the mot is not done by private garages but by the department for environment, a government agency, and they are very thorough, only problem is a tremendous backlog for booking your car in for its mot but it’s not open for the dodgy practices over on the mainland for the mot

[@JoeTalksCars]

Love the fact they do this! I mean I’ve said it should be like this here but I see it’s not perfect.

[@PocketRockets]

Mega video Joe! Don't back down keep it up 👍🏼

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you so much!

[@JJL206]

Nice piece of investigative journalism, Joe…! Someone needs to come up with a PPI system to expose faults within the dealers themselves.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you!

[@LeeHoops]

If you think that VXR is bad you should have seen the Focus Evans Halshaw sold to me. It was literally falling apart and the delivery driver crashed it and tried to hide the damage

[@JoeTalksCars]

Mental! Did you get anywhere with that?

[@ImpulsiveAndy]

And FYI...that Burg replaced that crap...I didn't need a bigger car for my family 🤣

[@James-bc1jk]

Keep up the good work we need more people like you

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you so much!

[@shus5787]

So are there any used car dealers you would recommend?

[@JoeTalksCars]

Loads. I’ve worked with loads. Just annoys me when people knowingly rip others off.

[@swanseaboy76]

What everyone needs to remember is that many people part with their car at a dealership when it's absolutely f****d. Then the dealership just tack it up and sell it on.

[@JoeTalksCars]

True but the garage is in the business of selling cars. They have ramps, experts and should be able to spot a bad car or at least offer a low ball price (which they do anyway)

[@swanseaboy76]

@JoeTalksCars You'd think they would for sure, but most of the time they just usually test drive a part exchange and have a quick look under the bonnet. 🤷

[@Holycurative9610]

I went to a very good (so people said) dealer with some very high end cars on the forecourt and paid cash for a car, a fairly low mileage Vauxhall 1.4T. I got home expecting to get the car in a week or so, I checked the MOT history at home and there had been suspension replacements done on 3 or 4 MOTs. I waited a month for this car to be ready and in the end we cancelled the sale and I got my money back because I kept getting fobbed off with "we're waiting for parts". There are lots of reviews saying how good they are and maybe they are if you spend £25-30k but Wheelers Chipping Norton weren't so hot when I went there.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Shame when somewhere is recommended that you end up being messed about.

[@Ussyb10]

Unfortunately happens a lot, I know so called Porsche specialist seller who is selling a Cayman that 100% has bore score and engine issues, he's had it a good while now, and even Stevie Wonder could see that the has mechanical issues, but he refuses to acknowledge and disclose it, and sadly someone will buy it thinking they bought their dream car, but instead bought a dud. I did call him out on it on FB - but he still hasn't disclosed it (and I've seen this car before hence I know the issues it has).

[@JoeTalksCars]

Awful!

[@Ussyb10]

@@JoeTalksCars Even after I called him out on FB - he still has it advertised without a mention of any engine problems or proof that its been fixed.

[@OH2023-cj9if]

Li bought one from lookers Vauxhall years ago, . Full mot and broken track rod end. They were selling cars and having faults fixed under warranty to save money. They have since closed as staff were committing fraud and stealing from customers. One blamed a drug habit, one a gambling problem.

[@ImpulsiveAndy]

Funny you should say that. That's exactly what they tried to do here but previous reviews said it was a massive pain getting fobbed off all the time and I wasn't prepared to be messed about.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Wow! Thats incredible

[@philipatkings9225]

astonishing how many used cars appear with clean MOT'S via their onsite garage. I really don't trust mots as it seems easy to be fiddled. Wonder how many of their stock have clean MOT'S from them....Also on buyers side though, looking for a 15yr old vxr with some concerning past advisories should be expecting have another 2k in budget to spend getting things upto standard he wants.

[@tonyworrall1962]

Right, this garage needs to be reported to trading standards also they have obviously got stevie wonder doing their mot tests and need that taken off them, selling dangerous cars, what a joke.

[@TheSgtsMess]

some of those issues he should have picked up when he inspected the car himself when buying the car. tyres, brakes binding etc

[@JoeTalksCars]

I mean yes I do agree but look how the salesman tried to sell it to me

[@ArkinCasta]

Same thing happened to us sold us 1000 car drove it for 3 months went to the mot and they said the car underneath was fully rotten, my fault for not looking under the car and buying the car in the rain, the garage said that must have been rotting minimum 2 years, meaning the mot on the particular car was fake, brought from a garage and had only good reviews online .

[@JoeTalksCars]

Mental! This is so widespread. Puts genuinely good dealerships in a bad light:(

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

My advice when buying from a used car dealership: If they've been in business for many years, in the same location, that's a good sign! If they're dodgy, word-of-mouth will cause their business to suffer, as it's the customers' testimonies that counts above all else. I use a car dealership in Staffordshire, that's been serving the town and surrounding area for 20-odd years. Everyone goes to this business for their cars and the business profits from this excellent service - win / win.

[@davidchilds1962]

BJH Motors were in business when I first moved to Worcester in 1982 and it is a family run business...

[@thewaywardgrape3838]

@@davidchilds1962 I find it hard to believe a company that's been operating for 40+ years has always been bad. Most likely it's become bad. I'd have to blame the customers to some degree; like Joe's friend for not researching the company...

[@JoeTalksCars]

Agree the garage should have been researched but sometimes when you see a family run business that’s been going for 40+ years you do have a level of trust towards them. A shame that they broke the trust.

[@NigelTalbot]

I think if you want a car without deteriorated bushes, new tyres, no leaks and everything perfect then perhaps you need to buy a new car or nearly new car. Buying a used 17 year old car should be gone into expecting there will be some issues, if you’re expecting perfection buy new. Yes it’s possible to buy a near perfect 17 year old car but it’s not going to be £7k, it’ll be £20k and even then things might fail as it’s used and things deteriorate with time, things you might not even see. Get real and understand it’s an old car.

[@Buck3366]

So just on the limit tyres and binding brakes are acceptable now to put out to the public for a safe and roadworthy vehicle? The down pipe had one bolt missing. Was it THAT hard to source a 20p bolt and replace on this ‘60 point check”? When I pay 7 grand I want a car that won’t torque steer me into an oncoming car from excessive wear in the bushes, I’d like it not to have a brake binding so my bearing gets red hot and could fail, I’d also like a 240 bhp car to at least have enough tread to make it around a wet corner! See that’s why you pay £7000 at a car sales and not £4000 on someone’s driveway. To have a reputable dealer assess and sort these issues.

[@PointNemo9]

That's a nonsense argument used by people to flog cars in poor condition.

[@NigelTalbot]

@ I have to be honest and say I didn’t watch your video all the way through so I don’t know what the dealer said back. Some of the issues you mention are what I would consider to be expected or reasonable for a used car dealer not to find or even expected on a used car. If something really is an issue, the binding brake for instance then how they resolve it should be measure of the dealer. Also you don’t buy a car from a used car dealer so you can get a perfect car, because a 17 year old car is never going to be that. You buy from a dealer as there is some level of protection and if there is a real issue they’ll help you resolve it. Hopefully that’ll be the case here. I think you’d be much happier with a new or much newer car, for what’s been a paid a decent lease car could be obtained. Unfortunately £7k is no longer a lot of money for a car.

[@PointNemo9]

@@NigelTalbot You don't think a dealer should check the tread on tyres?

[@PointNemo9]

@@NigelTalbot It's not a question of the car not being perfect, this car clearly needs a lot of work but the dealer is selling it is if it is a very cared for example with perfect service history.

[@richardpearson5439]

Every car you start to look at on autotrader... every single one.... check companies house for the dealer.

[@JoeTalksCars]

@@richardpearson5439 that’s good advice! Mind you this was bought from a dealer

[@RICHARD10195]

Clearly a shady dealer and dubious MOT for sure but missing some of the things like bald tyres is more than a rookie mistake

[@Al3xisAE]

What if the mot was ‘done’ by the last owner? Why didn’t your mate check the car properly? Bald tyres?.. not defending the dealer but you can’t expect a very old car to be mint

[@Mashmarriner69]

Dealers are there to make money. Straight up. Always buy private. You get a feel about how the car has been treated and looked after from the owner you're buying from.

[@hughesy606]

I'm a trader and used to use Motorway to find stock. Honestly, the general public are the worst to buy from, trying to hide things and giving false service histories are just some of the things I've come across. If you buy from the public and you're not experienced in what to look for you have absolutely no recourse. But you do you. (edited for grammar)

[@pauld7861]

@@hughesy606let this guy keep buying from private 😆😊

[@JoeTalksCars]

I mean at least they took the car back, private wouldn’t.

[@Mashmarriner69]

If you know what you're looking for, for certain models. You can sometimes get the same car for half the price of what a dealer will charge you. I don't recommend everyone buying from private. Only car enthusiasts. It's a shame dealers have caused this mindset though.

[@hughesy606]

@ I just don’t understand your mindset though. Of course dealers are there to make money - it’s a business. But you don’t go shouting that you’re buying your food from farmers because Tesco are just in it to make money. It’s like traders aren’t allowed to profit and, if we do, it’s ripping the public off, whereas every other business it’s absolutely fine 🤷‍♂️

[@popsbubbles1242]

The man from the garage was very good salesman (I was ready to buy).. , imagine knowing that the car was an MOT failure and saying that they had passed it so casually.

[@JoeTalksCars]

I know:( so bad isn’t it. It’s a shame as there are probably lots of honest used car dealerships up and down the country but this genuinely puts me off. I’d rather buy private.

[@richiemorse2138]

And yet if you did buy it private you couldn’t take it back like your friend Andy ?

[@JoeTalksCars]

@@richiemorse2138 well I mean I kind of feel private is better. Who wants dirt coming back to their house. I would certainly be honest and open with a private buyer.

[@zowahh]

@@JoeTalksCars doubt a private seller is taking the car back and giving you a full refund at least with a garage the law is on your side 6 months consumer rights. Dodgy MOT or fake history is bad though and anyone doing that needs prosecution need their mot license revoked and penalties.

[@Holycurative9610]

You should also report the MOT testing station if you think the MOT has been faked. The tester will be prosecuted as will the MOT station if there's evidence of wrongdoing, an old friend of mine was done over 30 years ago and he has never tested another car since. I've heard of a place that will issue an MOT for about £100 and they don't even need the car so I'm sure there are at least a few places that will get your car an MOT for another year no questions asked. We're lucky in the UK that the vast majority of places are very reputable and we have a fairly robust standard in place to ensure dangerous cars are kept off the roads but there will always be a couple of rotten apples so it's buyer beware I suppose..

[@JoeTalksCars]

I think there is a video series here 🤣 let me find all the rogue MOT testers

[@FlyingSpaghettiMonster2000]

Ghost Mots are available through Facebook. They don't even hide it and no one takes the ads down.

[@123MondayTuesday]

I'm pretty sure SmilerBob used to have a VXR when he was younger, great sports car

[@simonpriestley6912]

This is a terrible thing but some have been good to me even with faulty cars , read up before buying and then judge the seller with the after care, there are good ones out there.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Yeah it could have been avoided but then again. Looking at the site and the checks they claim to do you would think you were in safe hands.

[@manfredarcher645]

I know what you’re saying and it is disappointing that garages can often be ‘creative’ when describing cars and their condition; on the other hand I’m thinking what did your friend expect with a 15 year old Vauxhall?

[@JoeTalksCars]

That and I quote from the salesman himself. “A really lovely thing” “New service and mot, done by us” “You won’t be disappointed” Think he expected the brakes to work

[@aeropro7558]

A second hand car is all about the previous owner and how he/she treated the car. I always ask the original owner for a quick drive with them driving it first.....their driving style has alot to do with the general condition.

[@JoeTalksCars]

I agree but not when it’s from a garage, sold as “really really nice”

[@frenchdog4404]

You can't trust any car dealer there cars are bought from auction with problems or trade in they fix minimal to get them on the road fixed by cheap mechanics your better off buying private

[@JoeTalksCars]

You can trust some, it’s just a shame that rogue traders are rife in this industry.

[@stephen2649]

Had this experience many year ago..Since then i have purchsed from a main dealership..

[@JoeTalksCars]

Shame really this keeps happening.

[@JoanCarradine]

Cowboys and cheats are always found out! Why can such dealers just be honest and work to selling good cars? Only satisfied happy customers are the route to good rep and success. Strange the obvious isn't always obvious!

[@JoeTalksCars]

Yep they will and today was the day the garage was called out and infront over over 10k views on KZbin.

[@robertovers1863]

i can understand missing most of the broken bits, but not seeing a front bald tyre is a big mistake and then that would have rung alarm bells and asked how has this passed a full MOT hes lucky they took it back !

[@JoeTalksCars]

He is lucky! I know, he knows this too. Just caught up in a fast red VXR. 🤣

[@thatpeskyswan]

Most of those things Andy should've noticed on a test drive....! Not to mention did he not check the full mot history before purchase? Alarm bells would be ringing in my head if all of these advisories suddenly disappeared from mot with no explanation and no paperwork to back it up, why didnt he ask these questions? did he not check the reviews? I guess he just wanted a very cheap Astra VXR and suffered the consequences. There's so many things he could've done completely for free prior to purchase. YES the dealership is in the wrong for selling a car with a dodgy ticket no doubt but how did he not notice the brake bind, the tyres on the limit or the handbrake only half working? *EDIT* you literally just mentioned they have terrible reviews so why tf did he buy it...* That genuinely baffles me. I think he 's completely clueless and just wanted something for nothing tbh.

[@UrbanoDagrippino]

They never checked it

[@triv7252]

I hate used car dealers.

[@PureEvolution]

I have been had like this just not to the dangours extent but traded in a very nice JDM car to buy a Suzuki Swift sport i was told there was new MOT as was only 2 months left i inspected the car myself could'nt see anything to bad besides the disc being groved and pitted but brakes felt brill when test driving the car so after doing the paper work and getting a bit of a sweeter deal i went on my way not knowing that they had removed the MOT cert i viewed for the car only noticing that My MOT had ran out 2 months later i had all ready checked the car myself and fitted new dics pads all round so it did get a new MOT no problem but i was worryed about this... I did ring the Dealer up to find out that the manager and Salesman do not work there any more and the new manager was very weird with me about the issue but with him not being able to help..... Great video and its a subject that really needed to be shown as its getting worse

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thank you! So sorry you got done over by a garage too! So many comments are similar and think something needs doing. Maybe we should have government run MOT stations so garages can’t manipulate the result.

[@PureEvolution]

@@JoeTalksCars lmao yea coz they know how to run things Right! lmao

[@staceyismine]

Its not so much you cant trust the dealers its the managers who are penny pinching on cost to sell the cars.

[@JoeTalksCars]

True, but there’s penny pinching then selling a dangerous car.

[@jontheodore8450]

Haven't seen this car but took a couple of min to check & from that it would one to avoid MOT History alone is full of advises all the way through its life, so obviously never serviced properly its a VXR with nearly 80k so well past its best, unless very well cared for on servicing. Their are good older cars out there but must be low mileage under 60k cars are best but as low as possible, in standard original condition, with good history never buy on price, there is always a reason a car is cheap.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Yeah it’s not good reading is it. Why they took in to sell on is beyond me.

[@ShawaebTee]

every used car i bought cost me atleast a thousand to fix

[@JoeTalksCars]

Shouldn’t be the way should it :(

[@barrettsreviews]

Trust no one !

[@JakeBradley-u1j]

This must be an anomaly, I have bought a car from BJH and it’s been perfect and absolutely nothing wrong with it! I believe it is unfair to just put down a whole companies dealership to the fault of one car.

[@Jess-f6f]

Then maybe they should of thought about that before putting it through a dodgy mot? To “miss” some advisories is one thing but to then go on and “miss” majors is an absolute disgrace!

[@Jimeekedjdj]

​@@Jess-f6f fake ahh account

[@JakeBradley-u1j]

Making a new account to reply to a comment isn’t very normal is it? Sadistic world we live in…

[@Jess-f6f]

@ in actual fact I’ve never had a KZbin account, only ever watched videos and never felt the need to make comments. But since I am Andy’s partner and would of been the one driving the car daily with our 8 year old in it, I felt the need to reply to the comment you made. I stand by my reply to you. And you are correct, what a sadistic world we do live in, especially for any garages selling cars that are not road worthy!

[@Jess-f6f]

@@Jimeekedjdjshit you caught me pal

[@JoeTalksCars]

Let hear your stories about this garage or other bad experiences. Let’s stop these cowboys now.

[@xiiifas2968]

Ah should of gone down to have a look at the car and checked if things where fixed or not

[@JoeTalksCars]

Should have but I just think maybe a little step too far. The garage are not happy with what I did as it is 🤣

[@dannys7795]

not realistic/fair is it doing a review on a business with 17 year old cars. You are ALWAYS going to find things wrong or not as they were when it left the factory at new. cars go through different owners over the years, get messed with. different mechanics work on them, they corrode, etc etc..... if you want a perfect car you must and only can buy brand new. You'd have been better doing this on perhaps a 3 or 4 year old car for it to be more valid right? Just a thought.... If I take perfect wheels off a car and put them on my car I could pass an MOT right? After the MOT test I could go home and put my original illegal slick tyres back on couldn't i and it doesn't invalidate the MOT?

[@EwanCameronOfficial]

Don't think it makes a difference with the cars age. End of the day they sold a severely dangerous car to someone, passing an MOT and completing checks on a car saying there are no faults at all is negligent and irresponsible

[@PointNemo9]

They are putting a bent MOT on a dangerous car. That's not the same as a wear and tear item failing due to age. It's complete dishonesty.

[@dannys7795]

Lets face it 17 years old is getting near end of life. Most are going to be uneconomical to fix. Should probably be in the scrapper.

[@PointNemo9]

​@@dannys7795 So it's okay to put a bent Mot on one and pretend it is a good car? Nonsense.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Really uneducated comment right there. 17 year old car which as seen in the video is described as “clean MOT” new service (that wasn’t done either, unless air filters are not part of it) “A really lovely thing” “You won’t be disappointed” What part of what they did is acceptable regardless of age.

[@marcusgeorge9140]

Did your friend not check out the companies reviews ? …..

[@JoeTalksCars]

He knows he should have. Hindsight:(

[@markleaning107]

This isn't anything new it's been going on for years dodgy mots by the garage selling the car

[@JoeTalksCars]

By this particular garage? Seems this is practically their business model.

[@bowensgarageross-on-wye]

The majority of Independent Dealers are excellent & do really care about their business & the cars they are retailing to the public. It is very easy for consumers to do their due diligence these days on both the car, & importantly the company they are buying from & there is accountability on both sides. As someone who is very passionate about our trade I needed to stand up for us dealers who do the job correctly not just when prepping & selling the car in the 1st instance but also when problems arise (which of course they can do on a used vehicle). Do your homework, be diligent & you will find good used cars at the majority of Independent Dealers.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Love this! Thank you!

[@cameronwestbury7604]

nothing but bad things about that garage 🤔🤔

[@JoeTalksCars]

@@cameronwestbury7604 I mean I’ve found some good reviews. But I have many that state bent MOTs on cars.

[@cameronwestbury7604]

@ had bad luck with them ourselves, a few mates of mine has had the same 🤷‍♂️, i personally stay clear of the place

[@JoeTalksCars]

@ really? I mean I’m not surprised, can’t see how this can carry on. So glad the video had flown, need to get it out to more people to show what a shambles the place is.

[@cameronwestbury7604]

@ i know, i saw alex from autoalex buy a mini cooper from them in worcester, not too long ago, god knows how that’s going 🤷‍♂️, hit or miss i suppose but most of the time is a bad example

[@JoeTalksCars]

@ no way! Wonder what experience he had? I imagine if it was bad we would know, the reach he has would do some damage. I think that’s what they need to learn really, too easy to make videos, post reviews and share bad experiences.

[@kennyg4744]

You haven't exposed the secrets of used car dealerships. You have exposed ONE dodgy dealer. Clickbait title. You cant tar a whole industry with the same brush. Title should be "BJH sells dodgy Astra". If things have "disappeared" from an MOT, check for receipts for the repair work being done. If there is no evidence, then walk away. You have made a video about your friend buying a car from a dodgy dealer without doing any due diligence.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Click bait title that says exposes secrets. Well it does so therefore not click bait. Didn’t say everyone does it but it’s a worrying issue that people need to be made aware of. Arguably you don’t and should need to be doing any sort of due diligence when buying from a business that’s been going years, competed an MOT and did some 40 checks on a car.

[@kennyg4744]

@@JoeTalksCars Your title still infers it is all used car dealers. You are only discussing one dealer.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Guess it does. But KZbin is all about the all important click through.

[@kevinneary2283]

Cant trust independent garages generally , it’s a shame there probably are good ones . I buy from main dealers with decent warranty

[@carl235]

Depends on the main dealer. Some are good and some are really bad now. As they can’t afford their own workshop rates to prepare cars.

[@grahameelton1899]

There are hundreds of reputable dealers, main or second hand. However trust but verify is essential, look carefully or have a professional check, especially buying an older car. The problem we’re about to face is a scramble for ICE cars for those who don’t want EVs and that’ll cause no end of problems. Manufacturers are the in financial trouble currently and this is only bad for consumers. New cars are built too cheaply and too complicated. Especially as they become 7 years or older.

[@JoeTalksCars]

There are some. It’s a shame that rogue ones tarnish the industry

[@grahameelton1899]

@ there are plenty of rogue buyers too.

[@g__o__l__d__6673]

unchecked trade car imo

[@JoeTalksCars]

100%

[@andywrollo2915]

They do their own mots. Hmmmm. Need reporting. Take mot ticket off them or restricted like they do

[@JoeTalksCars]

100% they do. How many have they sold like this. Makes you wonder

[@tobiasklima]

I feel like your friend should go and buy a new car...

[@zzhughesd]

20 years trading. It's a difficult trade. It is all about how the dealer responds to after sale problems or full refunds. However some dealers do make bad choices. Many more check more. Older cars. Higher prices. As more desirable sport and classics are an insanely hard place to sell budget used motoring. Cars well under £8000. Under £6000. Under £4000. They're all older cars way way over 12-14-16 years old. They're literally so old need much more pre purchase checks. . Outside of the UK you need dealer licences. Sadly in the UK literally anyone can sell a used vehicle. The only checks really are MOT and independent inspections. Any bad seller will easily sell a poor merchandise vehicle in the UK

[@davidchilds1962]

@@zzhughesd This garage ownes an MOT testing station and put a new MOT on a car that should have failed just to sell it on. The car was not fit for purpose so they obviously refunded the money and took the car back.

[@davidchilds1962]

Not everybody can aford a new car. £6000 is a lot of money for some people and they don't deserve to be ripped of by selling a dangerous car with a dodgy MOT

[@zzhughesd]

@ exacty. I know. I’ve sold budget cars for 20 years and 10000 cars. Sadly people need downgrade to cheaper cars later plate. Say a 2015/6 left field supermini that’s a bit rubbish but reliable where in this camp. Don’t go buy 17 year old hot hatch buy an 7-8-9 year old much nearer new car like a Suzuki Celario or similar. Not nice wheels but reliable wheels. Etc. I know I know. I wouldn’t. But.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Thankfully it went back

[@charliea697]

Bin the lame music

[@vaughannewton4430]

I would never buy from a dealer only a private sale were I can go to the house and speak face to face with the owner.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Does seem to be a good way to do it. Having said that, I know a lot of good garages and it seems a shame that some are willing to put you at risk and rip you off.

[@HarryDunne-j9d]

Shush melt

[@JoeTalksCars]

Don’t think the comment section is for you.

[@Mr.K01]

Its a 17 year old Vauxhall, anyone who thinks it'll be perfect wants their head testing. This video steps on the side of slander and clickbait.

[@JoeTalksCars]

Where’s the slander? It’s facts, the car should as a minimum be safe.

[@ImpulsiveAndy]

At what point did anyone say it should've been perfect? Do you honestly believe it's acceptable to sell a car with a clean MOT with a caliper binding so badly it was smoking and warped the disc? Acceptable to pick a car up and have the EML come on within 20 miles. With the handbrake fully applied the N/S could freely turn. That instantly says to me that it wasn't properly tested, nevermind all the rest of it. I wasn't looking for perfect, I was however looking for a car I didn't need to spend £1.5k on to get to a road legal condition.

[@Mr.K01]

@@JoeTalksCars Did you talk to the garage and ask if they could rectify the issues?