I F***ed Up BAD | How NOT To U Turn a Motorcycle | Feat. Kawasaki Z H2

Welcome to our most annoying video ever! In today's episode we go over the dreaded U turn on a motorcycle, and how not to do it! Let us know your thoughts in the comments, and any more tips or tricks for newer riders.
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[@artvertex4152]

That's exactly why I'm so impressed by the MotoJitsu skills.

[@233kosta]

You and I could learn to do them too! Just got to put the work in.

[@Swatto]

I think it’s great that despite dropping it, you still show the video to us, thanks again.

[@girlandherguitar]

No one else has demonstrated what happens when we hold the clutch lever in at low speed in a u-turn so clearly. I have to thank you for that, even though you didn’t mean to drop the bike. That is actually what happens to us when we do that and it was good to see. It makes me feel better and shows clearly what I did wrong in the same situation. Not always easy to see in the moment. Thank you. Glad the bike was not too damaged.

[@DNiddy]

You need to explore more. There are plenty of people who have clearly demonstrated clutch-throttle-brake control for low speed maneuvers.

[@girlandherguitar]

@@DNiddy Yes, but they didn’t drop their bike or if they did, they edited that part out. It helps to see someone who’s ridden for years demonstrate how easy it is to drop a motorcycle. ;-) I’ve watched dozens and dozens of videos on slow skills manoeuvres, clutch control, etc., with the instructors explaining and demonstrating proper technique while other people (mostly new riders) drop the bike. I do agree that there are lots of great videos out there. We’re lucky that so many care about making us all better riders.

[@Kiyoti]

I agree we all need to perfect our "slow speed game"....at least I do. I like to consume the channels "Be The Boss of Your Motorcycle" and "Ride Like a Pro". They both focus on the slow speed manuvers.

[@electroclassics]

thank you for show the real LEARNING process !

[@233kosta]

An easy way to manage throttle/clutch (a cheat code, if you will) is to just add some power and keep it there. Say 10-20%FS above idle (adjust for your bike. Also you may need to do this by ear). Do it in neutral. Get used to its sound and get used to holding the throttle dead steady. Then, as you're going (slowly, in 1st, clutch in), dip the clutch out as needed to tap into this power reserve. Remember to be smooth with the clutch. It should have a fairly broad engagement (from initial contact to fully locked), so it should become easy to be precise with it. Don't worry about rpms dipping, that's normal. Keep the throttle steady until you're proficient with the clutch. Later on you can practice adding power as you let the clutch out to keep rpms steady. That allows you to hold the engine at lower rpms as the risk of stalling is reduced.

[@jaymac5135]

Also dont stall the engine did that and dropped my zzr14😢. Luckily I was smart enough to install crash bungs. To make turns tighter you must lean the bike and shift your weight to the outside of the bike whilst keeping your momentum up

[@Lc_Sebastian]

Im sorry for the drop, i can understand how you feel. But i see that you keep pulling the front brake. Clutch , rear brake and head turning makes you the best slow roll u turn. Great video either way! 😉

[@JohnnyBalazo]

Dropped my (new to me) CB650 a couple times in the first few weeks. Didn't really think it would happen in the ways that it did, but hey I can confirm, EVERYONE will drop their bikes at some point. Every time I ride I'm practising my clutch point, getting more and more comfortable every time. Let's keep at it!!!

[@SonnoMaku]

Better to drop it while practicing in a parking lot than to do it in traffic. Less embarrassing too. lol

[@JohnnyBalazo]

@@SonnoMaku 100% haha, practicing MotoJitsu drills. It's so good for low speed confidence. Translates to confidence everywhere.

[@rsue21]

In the Netherlands when we learn U-turns and figure of 8s, we don't use the clutch. We just use throttle to get to about 18 kph and then use the rear break to drag it back to about 13 or 14 kph and make the turn by counter leaning and of course look where you want to go. Works fine for me. With U -turnd the clutch for me is just another thing I need to worry about.

[@233kosta]

I got to learn that one!

[@dorayaki5494]

Uhm... that's not ideal in my opinion. Learning how to do U turns and 8's by controlling the clutch perfectly makes you a perfect rider in every way possible. Not to mention that you can do a much tighter turn if you have very limited space. Where i live you are given a very veeeeery small amount of lateral space and you have to use every inch of the floor available to perform a tight U turn or 8. You must have your feet off the ground at all times and you can only use the rear brake to go even slower. Trust me when you learn to do that you feel like you can do everything else perfectly.

[@233kosta]

@@dorayaki5494 It's kind of weird, sometimes I find myself doing it tighter by going faster and leaning the bike. I agree though, the rear brake tends to be used as a crutch more than anything. It's a tool in the toolbox for situations that require it. I don't remember needing to touch it during slow stuff even going back as far as basic training, except for whenever I need to scrub off speed.

[@dorayaki5494]

@@233kosta It's the "easiest" option. All you got to worry about is the clutch which if you practise regurlarly you'll eventually control it naturally and the rear brake. If you use the front brake at such low speeds you will lose control of the bike in the turn trust me. But ye everyone has their preferred method!

[@233kosta]

@@dorayaki5494 It's all about finesse. It is very possible to use the front brake AND remain upright, but most people just latch on to it and break the front wheel loose. If you're smooth enough (think ONE finger, next to no pressure) it's fine. Half the time I stop on front only just to maintain that finesse. Same with clutch only. I'll keep some revs on the engine and just dip it out as needed. No need for the brake if you don't go too fast and if you're precise with the clutch - you won't do that.

[@roberthansen9876]

Nice video. This is the most realistic demonstration I have seen of what not to do in a slow tight turn.:) Yeah, you need to be under power during slow maneuvers. The reason being is that you your speed is so low, +/- 3mph is a large % of your speed and the centripetal force varies by the square of your speed. So balance is very touchy at low speed. At higher speeds, variations in speed are not that great compared to your overall speed.

[@HeldIntegral]

Feather the clutch to control forward momentum and counter lean the bike (don't forget to indicate and do your head checks)

[@majordelays4909]

Ninja thou is a big old gal also. I had perfected uturns on my cb125r/500/650r Then struggled on Striple as I swapped up But never dropped as I could always recover. I went in to trying on ninja on a tight sloped drive I borrowed for a uturn - even though I knew it was falling once it got so far it was gone…. Always get some bump/slide protectors on big bikes is my advice

[@biking-northwest]

I always practice my slow speed stuff on car parks, also play the no foot down game in very slow traffic. When doing a U-turn get your head over your shoulder drag the rear break and feather the clutch and throttle. I noticed that you don't look right over your shoulder

[@Markycarandbikestuff]

My top tip ?, stay off the front brake, don't even have your fingers on the lever (i don't at under 20 mph, even on the road), if you have your fingers on the lever at some point you will pull it with the bars turned and the bike WILL go down, rear brake only, and keep the revs up. Don't ever try a tight U Turn on a GIXXER, or any bike with clip ons, don't ask how i know.

[@paulh6101]

Throttle/clutch control and slow speed maneuvers go hand-in-hand. Counter balancing is key when doing u turns.

[@kw4n1987]

All great tips. And don't worry, we've all been there and felt a right plonker afterwards!

[@TheShadeManGuitar]

The bike feel over cuz your hand is on the front brake. Get your hand off the lever in turns lol

[@adriantorres3221]

I’ve done the same thing exactly but on a Honda shadow 1100. Wasn’t used to the cruiser bikes cause I’m a British bike guy and I had to U-turn it, but I ran out of road shadows a long bike held the clutch because I didn’t want to run off the road and went over sideways. The parking lot.

[@joshlaw5706]

I love watching the vids, and noticing the places in them as they are very local to me. Quality content keep it uppp, unfortunate about the ZH2 : ( everyone makes mistakes tho

[@nickbitten9910]

Great video. I must admit I have done that, although the bike I was on was quite old. Would have been gutted if it has been something nice like your Z H2.

[@SlapshodWingnut]

Ahh man. A drop is never fun. But you took it, and moved on. Exactly like you should do. Hope any damage is minimal or an easy fix. There is an American youtuber called Motojitsu, who has a slow speed agility system for people to practice and grade themselves. Like the belt grading system in martial arts. Don't know if you're aware of it, but it's interesting stuff.

[@SonnoMaku]

Bikes really should come with consumable and replaceable features to protect against damage from drops like that. Especially the more expensive ones.

[@rolandgeorges960]

24 Ft - 8 miles per hour in the turn, no less. You are going way too slow and need to sit on the opposite side and press with your foot on the peg (counterweight the bike) turn your head and look in the direction you are going to go, use a bit of throttle and the clutch, (stay off that brake) If you had used friction the bike would have come back-up in place of dropping! I have the same bike, it' takes practice. I handed to you for showing others how easy it is to make a mistake. Stay safe.

[@ItsRaginGage]

this week alone I've had 2 almost bike drop. I've had to single leg press twice to save the bike. Good thing I've been working out lol.

[@Michael-gt5qz]

Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Not easy to own up like that to your own mistakes, and I'm happy you did. As for the front brake thing, there is no rule that tells you not to use the front brake in slow speed maneuvering. But you got to be on top of your game when doing so. It's way too easy to panic grab the front brake at slow speed while the front wheel isn't straight. And that is a sure ticket to the ground. It is safer to use the rear - but front is also cool, but be mindful of the possible consequences. As for the U-Turns, I might be wrong, but I'm under the impression that you are afraid to lean your motorcycle. You are going through your U-Turns almost upright - hence the full lock. I would try and gradually learn leaning the motorcycle at slow speeds, with counterbalancing perhaps, to improve your U-Turns. Disclaimer, I'm not a seasoned rider or anything.

[@granite676]

Jerry paladino ,RIDE LIKE A PRO VIDEOS. I'm an ex instructor who used to teach these skills and you HAVE to turn your head & eyes. Practice lots of straight slow speed riding ,then go into doing it on a slalom then start big and wide and bring your turns in tighter gradually. Like you learned the bike has to be moving at a speed which will keep it upright with just enough velocity to keep it out of the balance / drop zone. 1st exercise . Feathering clutch, 2nd exercise Straight line feathering and gentle back brake use. 3rd exercise Slalom and figure eights (important) 4th exercise Tighten up your figure 8's 5th exercise Wide u turns 6th exercise bring the width in till you reach your comfort point on size. (21 ft test standard ) Aim for 17-18 ft 👍😉

[@233kosta]

You can see it in the video! That first one just lining up. Looked a bit meh at first, but then you turned your head and the bike just followed! You can literally watch it change behaviour as your head turns.

[@torryc]

Please never try and put your foot down on a heavy bike while it’s dropping, and try to muscle it back upright (especially heavy cruisers and touring bikes). You’ll run the very high risk of breaking your ankle. Just let it drop and step clear to safety. That’s why you probably don’t want to be leaning into a sharp slower turn on the street, instead of counter balancing or staying upright and just letting the bike lean under you. If it drops, it’s harder to safely step clear without the bike falling on top of you or getting your leg snagged under it. Frame sliders and crash bars are a good investment, especially when practicing slow speed skills.

[@albertseaton2806]

Unfortunately it’s not if, it’s when. As you mention, it is alway good to practice and be prepared for that day to come as it does for us all. Sorry about the minor dings but it ads character and honesty..

[@rocksnrolls8664]

I did exactly the same as you with my Z H2 yesterday and to say im p***ed is an understatement. Should of brough frame sliders to protect that same part of the frame you damaged. So damn annoying.

[@roguevisual2245]

Thanks for making me feel better about tipping over my bike on my (right) turns lmao

[@Mr450pro]

Wenn taking my license, I went down twice practicing slow turns and tight figure 8s. I just bought and downloaded the MotoJitsu app. I won’t start practice before I get crash bars for my bike, I want to be sure it’s protected if I go down. Yes it’s embarrassing to go down, but I would rather do that than not practice and just stay bad and afraid to do those maneuvers

[@anilrampersad]

Thank you for sharing this mistake. I have my MOD1 on Wednesday.

[@UltimateEnd0]

Damn nice bike...no jelly here

[@cgibeats]

Perfect demonstration ! 😆

[@dupajasiu920]

Yeah, I know the feeling. I practise my U-turns on ZZR1400 and I'm freaking out I could drop it... because it is too beautifull to be dropped ! :)

[@bdline99]

Plenty of revs, feather clutch and using the rear brake on the turn.

[@DudleyASF]

So sorry you dropped your bike. These things happen I’m afraid. As longs you weren’t hurt that’s the main thing. Bikes can get sorted. Take care!

[@chrispulham4779]

Hey, don't feel bad we all have done that

[@snakeman9902]

And for my next trick, next week, same maneuver on the zzr1400.. Seriously mate, we've all done it. Believe it or not, I dropped the zzr1400, when I was cleaning her, I don't know how the hell it happened, maybe rubbing and buffing the polish to hard on the stand, it happened in slow motion, caught the bike in one hand, it was slowly dropping, screamed for my Mrs who never heard me then Bang.. Over she went. I had a scratch on those ugly black cans which I was getting rid of anyway, scratch on the hand grip ends (which I'm having painted) and scratches on the sliders which took most the impact. Seriously everyone, get sliders for your bike, it will save you a lot of money on the long run..

[@rainbowbroom8335]

While this may be correct there is another way. Look at motogymkana and how they do it, they lean the bike, there is autorotation of the bars and they don’t feather the clutch

[@thepodbaydoorshal]

You can't really do those kinds of U-turns on a busy public road. They use a lot of momentum to keep the downward force at an angle thus keeping the bike from dropping while leaning hard to make a very tight turn. Most people will do u-turns between 5-10 mph on a public road. For this you need to counterlean and balance throttle, clutch and some rear brake. Those gymkhana videos are fun to watch but they are very advanced.

[@thelatenightbar]

watching the beginning of this video.. looks like going too slow in the Uturn. Little more speed, can lean the bike over some.

[@SmittyAZ]

Do we add Frame Sliders before, or after?

[@destructiveflow6964]

i drop mine aswell brake lever in half need to order it asap

[@kellygrant4964]

Of course using that back brake doing this makes things much easier.

[@keithahlstrom176]

It helps to know what the actual turning radius of your bike is so you can at bare min aim for that. Then, with a bit of lean angle, you can cut off a few feet from that. (AND...whoever "Ray" is - he needs to not be such a parking space hog!) hahaha

[@233kosta]

This! After a few months of not practicing slow stuff I dropped my poor poor Andromeda. TWICE! Both times in VERY stupid ways! :'(

[@chrisp8448]

Maybe invest in crash bungs....

[@theunluckycharm9637]

I did a uturn the instant i got my ninja 400 very light so its very forgiving

[@scottdiver36]

i don’t understand y you have your hand on front brake thats y it probably dropped

[@dannyroosenboom3640]

i think everyone ever dropped his bike in his riding carrer. if you fear falling, it most likely will happen

[@adamcopley9860]

I dropped mine in the driveway from a slip out. It happens man

[@jadonx]

Ha why didn't you just say you were demonstrating what not to do and didn't mind sacrificial damage to your machine for the good of KZbin instruction. BTW I tipped a z650 doing the easy method, my right foot slipped while reversing from a gravel incline and I lost balance.

[@OGAndysGamingChannel]

ngl i am not hating on the channel but that's not how to do u turns your not looking where you want to turn the bike to do the u turn hence why you fell off your bike always look where your turning is how all bikers have been told on their test

[@Markycarandbikestuff]

Lots of stuff wrong, using front brake too is a recipe for disaster, still props for the guy for making the vid, shame the H2 went down.

[@majordelays4909]

Yeah defo use rear brake, I’m sure it helps with centrifugal forces whilst moderating throttle but slowing speed…. I’d have to google mind

[@DNiddy]

You point out that 'clutch control' is not one of the hard things to learn yet it is extremely important in the thing you cite as being hard - slow speed control. So within 15 seconds, I found another UTube clown.

[@rainbowbroom8335]

Your understanding of how a bike turns is wrong. Look at these videos on you tube type in AntPiloteDeLingeDroite and you will be amazed. Honestly you will never ride the same again. Take a bicycle push it from behind, then just lean it one direction, the bike will rotate its own handle bars in the direction of the lean and stay upright.

[@kevinmill7965]

Feel a.....

[@roman19301986]

"Like" for sacrificing your bike for the viewers! 🙂

[@derekphilp9622]

Wow talk about owning your mistakes. Not many people would.

[@scottdiver36]

It is a big deal when they cost £15000 so never drop your bike and practice yourself don’t watch these silly videos 😀😀😀