I Finally Got Vampire Hunter And Made Rare Friends

[@PipeTron]

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[@antonagrill4310]

why do you upload at 1am?

[@thebreakfast7556]

@@antonagrill4310 his time is upside down so it works differently

[@attila2742]

You, 2,9 and 10 made such a wholesome squad, the way they all defended you was so nice

[@SteamShinobi]

Fr that was the highlight

[@lucielm]

... I have never considered Wario and Waluigi as wholesome before

[@duke4726]

"Never thought i would die fighting side by side with a coven." "How about with a friend?"

[@DustD.Reaper]

The first game perfectly shows why VH should be a Neutral role whos only goal is to see all vamps die, this way any faction (besides vamps) benefits from keeping the VH alive since he is the best counter against a vampire takeover. In turn vamps should also get a "leader" role, the Elder Vampire, that is like GF is for mafia who has basic defence but still dies to getting stacked to maybe help vampires early and not be gone at d2 sometimes.

[@360mew9]

Maybe the elder vamp can choose to visit the vh himself(instead of the youngest) and he doesn’t get killed but can kill the vh? Or another way for the vamps to kill vh maybe

[@familyneves9777]

@@360mew9 Maybe have Elder Vamp be able to also bite people who visit them or their target, and leave it as that. But when Elder Vamp dies, there's no replacement, unlike Godfather.

[@jimmythornseed8605]

power creeping out Town with every update. Losing VH in All Any is a lost vote which is durable 'cuz evils don't want it dead. Vamps don't need a faction leader, they have stealth and the ability to convert confirmed roles.

[@Star_Bright1]

It kinda sucks that vh is forced to be town-aligned, since their only goal really is to kill vamps I feel like that should be their win condition and they shouldn't have to become vig after

[@monochrome3168]

Would be real annoying if the only vamp died n1, maybe they'd become amne that can't remember vampire?

[@gibby3216]

If they kill all the vampires as a win condition, it'd be cool if they could just go rogue after all of their purpose in life is gone, kinda like how they already do with resorting to vigilante justice, which is kinda criminal regardless of it's town status. Instead of becoming vig, they could become a neutral role still with a basic attack, basically they could derp around the rest of the game like exe, but with an attack, and no defense. I think it'd make the role a lot more enjoyable. I believe we need more neutral chaos, more roles that have win conditions that can be fulfilled while alive, so that they can no longer fear death and just go rogue and pick a side to help.

[@sosukemickey1041]

@@gibby3216 honestly they should get 2 limited use kills if all vampires die

[@emirulin5323]

@@gibby3216 now that sounds awesome. Color it silver and we've got a deal Edit: Nevermind, Executioner already has gray. Color VH light brown and we've got a deal

[@puppy3908]

after killing all the vamps you become vamp

[@TarsonTalon]

You know, I never thought of an amne/survivor alliance. That's actually pretty powerful, as they can keep each other from being voted, and the amne can become a killing role that wins with survivor. I'd call it the 'Alliance of Anarchy'.

[@orionknight4803]

Neutrals allying always seems pretty strong. You just have to be subtle about it depending on the neutral

[@familyneves9777]

@@orionknight4803 Imagine a rolelist where there's only Neutrals with the exception of a Coven Leader, a Mafia Killing and a Town Killing. Basically Among Us but with 4 teams.

[@thebreakfast7556]

Yeah I was the potion master, only hope I had at that point was keeping VH alive and I revealed you n2 so I knew you were VH

[@ploop69]

Wdym you revealed him N2, your Cl was controlling them anyway.. wasted reveal . Sorry, if I sound a little rude, but my teammates , such as HM or Poisoner, visits the same person CL controls in so many games I have played.

[@zvaero]

@@ploop69 Pipe was revealed by PM night 2 and controlled by CL night 3. how is that a waste of a reveal?

[@SirenPandaSabo]

@@zvaero actually he was controlled N2.

[@clownintraining5944]

@@SirenPandaSabo no just went and rewatched the video.

[@thebreakfast7556]

@@ploop69 CL controlled 9 last second even though I was alr revealing him

[@uhhhhrandompersoniguess5567]

'i inno everything as surv' *proceeds to guilty the next trial*

[@leemiller29]

So I was the vamp who figured out you were VH - I actually was on 8's chat logs, not 9's, and skimmed where they fake claimed VH and misread the chat to be 9. So I was right by accident lol

[@mozarteanchaos]

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[@limoncheto]

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[@candysketchezyt]

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[@SuperCaitball]

Wario and Waluigi being the Survivor Bros is an awesome coincidence, love it

[@Fireblade0717]

Yeah. Honestly at the end of that VH game. The only way it doesn't end in a draw is if mafio dies. If no vote. Then you (VH) hit vamp. Vamp hits maf. Maf hits VH. And if you lynch vamp. You turn vig and vig and maf shoot eachother. Either way overall that went well all things considered

[@SirenPandaSabo]

If they lynched the Mafioso, the Vampire would die to the VH. VH cannot die to rhe the Vampire.

[@Fireblade0717]

@@SirenPandaSabo exactly what I said. The only way it doesn't draw is if mafio dies. Like if they lynched mafio

[@darkeuropa7]

yeah but *actually* no In a VH vs mafioso vs vampire endgame, This is the scenario that will unfold if everyone plays PERFECTLY: During Voting on 1st day: mafioso votes vampire, vampire votes VH, and VH votes mafioso, each going for their own winning chances. voting is a 1:1:1 draw. During 1st night: mafioso will always attack the vampire, going for winning chances. vampire will actually stay home! vampire cannot attack the mafioso as vampire needs the VH voted out on day 2 in order to achieve drawing chances! VH will stay home as well! VH needs the mafioso voted out on day 2 in order to achieve winning chances! Of course no human VH will actually stay home instead they will attack the vampire thinking that the vampire will attack the mafioso. but that is not what the vampire does in perfect play! So... by day 2 the mafioso kills the vampire and VH turns into a vigilante. vig and mafioso shoot eachother, and its a draw! NOT YET! the mafioso will NOT kill the vampire night 1 so that the VH will turn into vigilante leaving the game in a draw. instead they will stay home as well in hopes that the vamp will vote out the VH day 2 as that is their only winning chance. day two and its a 1:1:1 draw day 3 its a 1:1:1 draw draw another draw might happen if the VH never turns into vigi which is only possible if two dead GAs save the vampire from the mafiso attack each night from the grave lol

[@Fireblade0717]

@@darkeuropa7 that's also going WAY into theoretics. If we wanna do that then it's a rock paper scissors problem too. Assumedly they're human then they know. Theoretically. The only way they win is if they attack. But the person before them doesn't attack in the triangle. Which would go as so Maf->VH->Vamp->Maf. Now assuming Vh doesn't attack in this scenario. Vamp wins. Vamp doesn't attack. Maf wins. Maf doesn't attack VH wins. So theoretically the best play for each person in their individual scenarios is to attack. Because the only way you have potential to not lose in this theoretical scenario is if you attack since the person who doesn't attack is the person who loses

[@darkeuropa7]

@@Fireblade0717 I think you may be correct, and that is something that I did think about. However, I chose to write about the other scenario because it makes the game last longer. Kind of like how in chess even though it is stalemate or checkmate in 3 the intelligent computer will still never resign because the opponent still has time to screw up or go afk etc. The main factor is the level of intelligence of who is playing. If an extremely intelligent computer is playing against itself it may go for scenario 1 to try to make the game last longer, like in chess. That is how computers work. If a human is playing against a human they may go for scenario 2 because they don’t assume that the opponent is intelligent (like a computer always will do) and so they won’t be as willing to put their trust that the other players will attack.

[@binkjar]

Those were the sweetest games ever. Made me smile and brought me IMMENSE joy, thanks Mr Tron!

[@jollykirby2138]

coven bein the real homies first game, good on em smh

[@LuBiStar2]

i was the CL ❤ I found em and wanted to protect my PM and VH helps that

[@mafuenaism]

i love being vh not because of its ability but because most vampires in the rounds i play as vh just stop disscusing serious stuff, they just speak the most feral and random things ever i remember a vamp saying "i have to go to the bathroom tell the vh dont stake me :pleading face: :pleading face:" i wheezed so hard.

[@N0Comm3nts]

Honestly pipe could have won the first one, kind of frustrating. The people who pushed the first arso (hazelnut) were clearly vamp, since they had no way of knowing the only claim was fake. They hit an immune n1 and they knew they were doused. If you go back to d2, the first 3 to vote hazelnut were indeed vamps. So there was a crucial moment in n3 when pipe could have staked a vamp, but he decided to random, and this resulted in losing maj. Anyway, fun game.

[@ryanellett6032]

Imagine having everyone's support as a surv!

[@Majoris239]

Hi Pipe! I just recently got recommended your ToS videos and they've been an absolute joy to binge! Keep doing what you're doing

[@nocturnecz3965]

lmao love that frustrated dead bmer at the end, rip them for having to read all those whispers

[@tickolascage9618]

I like how pipton sounded constipated at 2:18 xD

[@wevegottrouble5891]

Of course Vanilla Ice would be Vamp

[@alcifovods7605]

as you can tell by this game, i am a pro arsonist in custom role lists! (hazelnut is awesome idc what you say)

[@naito9345]

Question, cause I've always wondered this: as a VH of you speak at night, does it show to the vamps? Like, could they see you reply if you wanted?

[@christinecao4499]

The VH can only see what the vampires are saying, but can’t chat to the vampires

[@billie-ve_in_yourself6464]

It’s so cute how all of the town jumped to your defense in that second game.

[@azeranacts4900]

I've watched about 15 of these videos, and still have no idea how people play the game. Very fun to watch though!

[@jessiejamesmorris868]

I liked how he got controlled on N2 At 3:33

[@guiorgy]

By the way, since you already got to be GA with a GA, try being Amne with a GA and turn Jest next xd

[@geo4876]

Amne turned ga turned surv turned vamp?

[@familyneves9777]

@@geo4876 Amneradox

[@nicholasordish5916]

It's funny when witch makes you forge one of your maf who was killed by Vamp, so the town thinks it's 4 vamp game because consort died as sheriff.

[@montana2099]

the way pipe says 2 …. scratches an itch in my canadian brain. very nice.

[@Kaylee-Bear]

Thanks to you I now consider Wario and Waluigi wholesome

[@TheCrankSpiderNinja]

Rocky road is an amazing ice cream and I respect your decision of it being your favorite ice cream

[@notsaying7015]

1:30 I dont wanna.... I don't wanna 😟

[@emirulin5323]

I am insulted that nobody's favorite ice cream flavor is mint chocolate chip

[@leemastah3391]

😂 now I know the context behind the game throwing argument last night lol

[@The_musical_gamer]

When they said come out vh you should have said I’m gay

[@Waffl3B1T]

Early gang! I just ordered food and it should be here at the end of the video heck yes

[@iamjafar925]

Cl helping town because they hate vamps makes me happy. I legit hate becoming a vamp xD but its such a good role

[@thesugareater8607]

Jailor should've executed maf instead of vamp to make to 2v2 where the only way vamps would have won is if they had a bite that night

[@nicholasordish5916]

Got a bit confused trying to listen to this at the start because you said we have rolled vampire on the vampire list, you forgot to say you were vh.

[@joemama-xg4qs]

its cool that you chose rocky road as your name, thats my dad's favorite ice cream

[@nicholasordish5916]

Maf should be voting the vamp or not at all cause it's a higher chance to win, if vamp loves he dies so voting the vh is dumb unless he's going for the guaranteed draw since not voting was a maybe draw 😏

[@theendofthestart8179]

Everyone died? Lore accurate town of salem

[@Justaguywholikestoread]

Stake those Stinky vamps Pipetron >:)

[@shadowkahn9415]

GG Great video as always :) - Brim

[@darkeuropa7]

In a VH vs mafioso vs vampire endgame, This is the scenario that will unfold if everyone plays PERFECTLY: During Voting on 1st day: mafioso votes vampire, vampire votes VH, and VH votes mafioso, each going for their own winning chances. voting is a 1:1:1 draw. During 1st night: mafioso will always attack the vampire, going for winning chances. vampire will actually stay home! vampire cannot attack the mafioso as vampire needs the VH voted out on day 2 in order to achieve drawing chances! VH will stay home as well! VH needs the mafioso voted out on day 2 in order to achieve winning chances! Of course no human VH will actually stay home instead they will attack the vampire thinking that the vampire will attack the mafioso. but that is not what the vampire does in perfect play! So... by day 2 the mafioso kills the vampire and VH turns into a vigilante. vig and mafioso shoot eachother, and its a draw! NOT YET! the mafioso will NOT kill the vampire night 1 so that the VH will turn into vigilante leaving the game in a draw. instead they will stay home as well in hopes that the vamp will vote out the VH day 2 as that is their only winning chance. day two and its a 1:1:1 draw day 3 its a 1:1:1 draw draw another draw might happen if the VH never turns into vigi which is only possible if two dead GAs save the vampire from the mafiso attack each night from the grave lol

[@Khak1]

love ur vids :)

[@Donoughe41]

This game marked the first game in back to back streams in which I died N1 o7

[@BlueberryCats_]

almost pulled a solo maf win that game :/

[@trashwoman8015]

Just on time, for bedtime 😎

[@turtlecat465]

what was up with 7's fake quote

[@Thewinningshep]

not pipe saying i inno everyone the next minute thats a guilty Note: no hate love your videos

[@starbolt0636]

Hold up, no one picked mint!?

[@RoboWrecker]

I was in both of those games

[@DeathxStrike18]

could have gotten vamp out became survivor and killed maf

[@jellyfish1781]

The first game didn't have to be a draw though.

[@EriSenshur]

Daily algorithm bump :3

[@flar420]

Why is playing for a vamp turn as town considered throwing? if town is going to lose anyways i dont see why the town cant decide to win with vamps

[@trentgawd4292]

I was mayonaise and joker

[@antonagrill4310]

Hello Pipe

[@ecoknot]

pls… no more spoilers that messes up like half the fun

[@solts9576]

Ayeeeee nice.

[@Hanae_ch]

Wow I've never been this early

[@michaelbuckley3898]

unpopular opinion vh should be neutral benign:

[@LazyCalzone]

I have found this not to be a super unpopular opinion but I agree wholeheartedly, neutrals are my favorite faction and VH fits in way too well with them. I support this opinion

[@slurper5300]

Gameing

[@agastyadey5891]

Gg

[@Phantomloiy]

Early gang👍👍👍

[@immortalaxolotl]

41 seconds ago and still im 3rd gg