I FINALLY played a USTA 4.5!

[@Tennisbull-match-statistics]

wow, lots of long rallies. More than 64% of all rallies where 5 shots or longer!!! Winston had more forehand winners but also more unforced errors on the forehand. Matt had more unforced errors on his backhand. But the big difference was the return where Winston had 9 return errors, 8 of them on the forehand, including the one on match point ;-) Winston, that S&V on match point was awesome!

[@AliHaider-rb9pp]

This was a ton of fun to watch. I love playing people like Matt, who play with such positive energy and seem like they're having a ton of fun even when their opponent hits a great shot. Makes the whole match so much more fun. Great match, very even. Loved seeing Matt battle his way back into the set. Great vid

[@cks2020693]

love the footwork and aggressiveness, Karue's lessons paying off. You started losing when you started moving slower and waiting for the ball to come to you rather than going to the ball

[@ayokay123]

Man, the lengths you'll run to avoid a backhand. All I can say is NEVER let yourself get out of shape. :D

[@xxpinghead7xx]

This is why he is a true 4.0+/4.5- club player. I would give Winston a 6utr in a good day.

[@huma0605]

Winston is better than UTR 6. I play with a lot of UTR 6 and above. Maybe on a bad day he would be close to 6, but most of time I think Winston should be close to 7.

[@xxpinghead7xx]

@@huma0605 you are funny. Winston doesn’t have a big enough forehand to keep someone from attacking that backhand. When he develops a consistent deep ball off that side and learns to keep forehand out of the middle, then yes…. He can be a 7. Has lots of potential but gets nervous moving ball around.

[@thelonelydekuscrub4817]

@@huma0605 I've played with and around a lot of 4-6 utr juniors here in florida and I think a good majority of them could probably beat winston. But obviously its hard to judge from youtube videos alone.

[@jpob7918]

Really good backhand topspin, Matt. Beautiful shot!

[@highsocietyskate]

Great playing guys!! Winston just steady improving and playing great. Matt played like a beast like always! So nice to hear laughter on a court 😆

[@samopenossam55]

that was one of the best matches I've seen on your channel. good level from both

[@BackoftheLineTennis]

Always enjoyed Matt on the channel, just seems to enjoy himself with everyone while playing. And he is competitive as well. Really even match up though. Good stuff fellas. Cheers.

[@alwaysprepared]

Good match. Great comeback by Matt! I like the look of Matt's backhand topspin, the slice looks weird somehow, though, but still overall effective. His volley was a bit tentative which gave Winston some second passing shot opportunities which he took advantage of.... I think as the match went on, Matt kind of warmed up and looked more comfortable. It's nice to see a really competitive match!

[@RCShufty]

Matt has a great deep slice, thanks for making me feel better about always choking and losing to people my level lol :D

[@JannickSiner]

Really nice match! Enjoyed watching it. Here's 3 suggestions to make your game even better: 1. Only run around the backhand when you're going to hit an offensive shot (powerful, opens up the court,) 2. On the defensive wing hit the ball higher with more spin 3. Follow through more on the backhand slice

[@-Munditimum-]

Great rallies. Awesome intensity. So so fun to watch. Matt is a great dude. K's influence is totally visible Winston. Thanks for the upload! Cheers! M

[@dancetnobigdeal]

Am I trippin or was Matt's ball at 18:22 in on the baseline? Great match both of ya'll!

[@ryantabeshi9565]

I noticed that too

[@chuckfriebe843]

Winston, I think Matt was generous to you on a couple of line calls. However, it was a great match and I really enjoyed this one. Cheers!

[@soroushrezvan]

idk why but I always pick a favorite early on in the pre-grame conversation to make it more exciting to watch the games LOL Excellent stuff Winston! so fun to watch some realistic non-pro tennis.

[@dirkalester1839]

I really enjoyed this one,especially because of Matt's single backhand. I think he really won it when he started to hit a few more flat ones on the backhand side and mixing it up with the slice. Keen to watch the next matches you post...really entertaing.

[@jonbonhamchronicle]

Fun match to watch! So many rallies, where I couldn't stand more than 10s LOL. Matt's BH really kills, but your FH also great, Winston! Keep it up guys.

[@thientran913]

Good Match, what a comeback!

[@anonusniogsonisrgnip]

Wonderful tennis from both!:-)

[@kenttalcott8428]

Great playing by both players. In this match you can really see the value of good footwork and preparation. Both players displayed excellent footwork throughout the match. When errors did occur you could appreciate the lapse or change in footwork that contributed to the errors. Overall, excellent play and consistency with tons of pace on their forehands. Also enjoyed the positivity and compliments they shared with each other throughout the match.

[@gelatinousjoe7979]

It was a lot of fun to watch Matt hit his rhythm in the second half of the set

[@infiniteriver93]

Great match! Lotta fun to watch, great rallies and great comeback by Matt! Match definitely deserved to go to a tie breaker. Well done both of you. Like others have said, love the positive energy and fun had by both of you. Matt's grip looked semi western when shown in beginning but watching during match looked full western.

[@kc24jack]

What an awesome match between two equally matched players!!! such long rallies! This was really fun to watch!!

[@RollinLeonard]

Great match! I remember Matt from the start of this channel. When you focus fired on his backhand you were able to setup winners. I feel like next time you've got him!

[@Kevin-ms3do]

Finally nice to see 4.5 players play. You should really do this more often. I'm top 5 in singles in my state(Texas) so this is cool to see other 4.5 players in other states and how they compete

[@bgchans]

Great match! Love the whole game, really nice rallies!

[@DonYang73]

Very interesting service footwork. Left foot back before the hit. I’ve actually never seen that in my life.

[@marcobartoletta8449]

Awesome set, guys! Love to see it!

[@Outerrythem]

That was a well balanced game with some nice rallies. From the comfort of my couch, I would suggest that Matt should try to finish the follow through on his single handed backhand more in front down the court and less out wide. Also try to avoid the slice back hand on rising balls - easier said than done with a single handed back hand particularly if you have shoulder issues.

[@fnecessity]

Hey Winston I think you had this set dead and buried at 5-2. I think it's a mixture of mental and footwork that let you down from that point. Matt stepped up his game but I reckon if you did some chip returns to change up what you were giving back to him it would've been interesting to see how he'd have dealt with it. Anyway this was a very good watch. Enjoyed it so much I'd replay some of the points which I only do for atp matches! Would be great if you do more of these types of matches against people on your level. Also your backhand is a weapon! Use it! ❤

[@TimelyAdventure]

Lol, double fault chant. Great duel, some good tennis. He's crafty and consistent. and a great sport throughout, love to see that

[@harisskordis]

18:22 that was in! 😆 Great set guys!

[@WinstonDu]

yeah might've missed that one

[@sf108]

Awesome game from equally matched players. I like how you described how the longer the game went on, the balls started softening up. I have the same problem with my forehand on worn out balls. But at the same time, this brings opportunities if you can take advantage of it such as slicing.

[@patrickrogersiegismund2785]

Matt's foot work looks great. Not only his racket but also his FH and BH style resembles Dominic Thiem's.

[@TotalTennisGeek]

Talk about snatching the victory!

[@BassByTheBay]

Finally, Winston!... But _not_ finally. I mean, you finally played a true peer, but "not finally" because you didn't win ☹️. I'm gonna keep rooting for you, though 😊. Was great to see such a close match. I hold on to the hope that you'll just shed your backhand till it becomes a weapon or at least not a vulnerability. Don't wanna see you running around your bh to hit a fh so often. Matt's backhand is nice though inconsistent. Seems his bh could become a weapon with a few tweaks. Loved that you both seemed relaxed here -- seems like you're friends. Really hoping you can have Matt back soon!

[@ServantoftheLord10565]

Always live to see fellow 1HB players like myself. Matt needs to utilize his topspin backhand more rather than always slicing backhand. 1HB allows great angles to be had. Also, Matt could benefit from preparing for a shot with a full unit turn before the ball bounces on his side. He currently half cocks his unit turn and then when the ball bounces he does the other half of the take back and racket drop which may lead to some late hits and timing issues.

[@escgoogle3865]

Wonderful highend 4.5 match. Match Analysis: Winstons FH leveled up and the high deep heavy balls were causing issues with Matt's backhand. Like me Matt's BH and FH are very balanced so we tend not to run around them. At 5-2 I felt Matt HAD to start running around the heavy high balls or go into "F'it" mode and swinging free. (post mortum it turns out the balls started losing fluff which lowered the bounce). Bring Matt back in the spring, he plays and swings like a small College version of me. 🙂 I maxed out at sectional 4.0 than got old an the bod just broke.

[@svlagonda7417]

Good hitting from both. Very evenly matched.

[@djaziztube]

That shank was karma for chanting double fault.

[@FrankThehumanitarian]

my palms got sweaty in the tie break, awesome match!

[@supermuskelmann8557]

Finally a player that uses an active backhand slice! I’ve had the impression that players in the US don’t use it at all. Good to be proven wrong.

[@parlo9027]

Nice play from both of you!

[@effay83]

Damn man. was hoping you would win one finally.

[@dOntBcUt]

Good to see Matt again!

[@AB-xp8im]

Fun match to watch, thanks for sharing. Im just a hack player but a couple of things i saw (take it if you want) Matt: your front foot moves back when you serve - never seen that before, definitely wont foot fault - but that might be taking some power away since your body motion isnt moving forward. Winston: seems like you back up a lot on the serve return, i believe you want to be moving forward, and reduce the backswing - like someone is pushing you from behind - maybe Karue can tel you if Im right or wrong on that :) Overall, great content!

[@williamb19]

Man that first backhand winner

[@stevel.2759]

Someone's improving

[@jaygt4]

Great match ... love to see Matt's problem solving out there, figured out the short slice angle to the backhand start to pay dividends to get him back into the match

[@getitnow247]

College Coach in Arizona (Jose )😊 Winston 😢 I have run into your Channel a couple times. Pretty Cool 😎 You Love ❤️ your forehand but I think you should give equal Love to that Backhand 👍

[@gonzalolibano6505]

Great 4.5 level and very entertaining match to watch! Congratulations to both of you. Winston…the only thing you needed to win was a killer instinct (Nadal or Djokovic kind). Maybe you are too nice!😂

[@Qu3Xu5]

Great match to watch!

[@JV-py3lg]

Grip is between a semi to eastern.

[@lorbatlo3298]

well played both! Really well played Winston upto 5-2 and then after I think you made a few more mistakes and Matt started to up his game from 5-2 onwards. Keep it Winston definitely improved since the last time you 2 guys last played.

[@null-7]

the gap I notice between Winston and more advanced players is footwork. Winston does not respond and move that quickly, sometimes just a little late

[@davebeery_youtube]

Great match! At the end you gave him 16 gauge strings. Then I wondered, how does the tension of the strings relate to the gauge of the strings? It seems that there might be a different ratio between thick strings at 50lbs and thinner strings at 50lbs. So, maybe ask players in the future what gauge and what tension rather than just what tension they play with? I’d love to know if anyone has discussed this before.

[@ROSEMARY-gl7wx]

GREAT FUN MATCH

[@blasianpanther24]

you honestly got so much better man... and tbh u look like a strong athletic guy but the serve still weak bc the technique seems to need a lil tweaking. Would love to see you try the pinpoint kyrgios/nadal serve as opposed to federer platform stance. could maximize your serve power get more momentum through your legs/body. arm motion looks ok but keep "throwing" the racket forward for more power

[@JH-bb8in]

Great effort guys, you guys are textbook 4.5 -

[@ST-ek6lf]

Hmmm high 4.5 I believe

[@cb3719]

Wonderful match to watch. More 4.5 play please. @Matt - looked like cross-court TS BH was less than confident. You often went middle or down line to Winston’s FH. Have you considered bending your right arm more on takeback creating a near 90 degree angle with right elbow (More fed like) as opposed to a straight right arm (more Stan-like). This might allow more snap topspin at contact and less pull-through which results in a flatter pull shot across your body and cross court. (I have same issue. Flat pull across).

[@AmanJohar-p7e]

Great match. Do you happen to use Swing Vision ? Would love to see it on the video if you do

[@Adi0-e8v]

Matt went from a 5.0 to a 4.5? How does the usta system work?

[@lively6015]

Not very well.

[@speedymr]

@@lively6015 Pretty well. If you beat high-rank players you go up, if you lose to lower-rank players you lose rank. Pretty simple.

[@WinstonDu]

@@speedymr except he won more than he lost at the 5.0 level. Could be due to playing doubles matches only

[@WayneLynch69]

Nice to see good spirited play...not that common. Woof; I've seen tanking not as bad as that last shot

[@zKfh43]

How did Matt land on 42# string tension? Would be interested to know the road he took getting there. Seems pretty low but I know that’s not uncommon. When racket manufacturers recommend a tension range do you feel like there’s adverse effects going outside that range? Going to high seams obvious that you could break the racket I guess 🤷‍♂️ but what about too low?

[@akintomeatloaf]

Great playing! Interesting how Matt's losing a foot+ by bringing his left foot back on his serve.

[@ntnnot]

Nice match

[@DonRobberto]

instant karma, never chant for a double 🤣

[@orangecoolius]

Matt gripping so tight

[@RollinLeonard]

I like the new hairstyle Winston. It's giving supervillain.

[@neelabhchoudhary2063]

WINSTON HURRY UP AND GET TO 5.0!!! KARUE WHERE YOU AT?? Edit: but it was an awesome match. really fun. watching this video motivated me. to fix my tennis ball machine and start playing again!

[@ebertbarendse9427]

At 7:36, Matt pulled out the spiderman 4.5

[@nguyen925]

Good match 👏 🎉

[@jingkkk]

Matt somehow reminds of Dominic Thiem. Both in terms of playing style and clothing style :)

[@fluffy_skye]

Ok Babolat actually stops making size 1 for the 98. Very sad.

[@UOGMathRoden]

Is everyone stringing their rackets in the 40s now!? 😱

[@samster978]

*cue advice from 3.0 rated players

[@stevenjm12]

Why does Matt move his from foot back when he serves? I have never seen that before

[@chubun6631]

Very strange indeed. besides making sure you don't footfault, I don't see any benefit of doing that. Maybe that's why you have not seen that before.

[@TennisFan97]

Is the Rithvik vs Karue match that was talked about last year going to happen? Maybe in the UTR tournament? 🙂🎾

[@WinstonDu]

maybe

[@chrislin2774]

Im more surprised at the low string tensions you guys use.

[@shabzone]

Really surprising to see a mainly doubles 4.5 player not have a good smash and not go for angles. Most of the shots were hit straight at winston!

[@bigrobsydney]

WD is a UTR 9.x and MM is a 8.x. I wasn't expecting this result. WD I think is a stronger player, but, needs to work on his serve to get more free points, and ultimately hold serve more. You can always discuss tactics, sure, but the technical side needs to be solid as well. And here, the technical aspect of the serve can really be improved. Winston, you're a UTR 9.x now; just imagine where you could be if you developed a bullet serve and could hit it 60-70% of the time?

[@HankHell41]

Matt is 4.5 Thiem!

[@kiteguy1761]

Hey. Interesting why don't you add results to UTR?

[@eddiepearce5307]

Great set Hope the BOZOS who said Winston a 4.0 watched this 4 1/8 grip Wow

[@Gutuie2.0]

🔥🔥

[@Feanor1992]

Tight match! Proves the USTA rankings are legit.

[@Astrals7k]

as someone who uses a one handed backhand and a semi western grip, matt’s forehand is definitely more western than semi

[@gabrielcaraos8729]

I noticed you started avoiding the backhand as the game progress. Nonetheless, good game!

[@mburgos5537]

es tu clon????

[@fitzmichaelkarlalmiron5717]

He's using more of a semi western because his index is on bevel no 4

[@aSm8full]

May I ask what balls do you use in your matches?

[@joshuapatterson4547]

I miss Winston playing shirtless

[@WinstonDu]

Could be some shirtless tennis coming up in the next vid 👀

[@joshuapatterson4547]

Notification bell officially clicked lol

[@BassByTheBay]

I'm questioning whether you're a true tennis fan. 😄

[@BackoftheLineTennis]

Everyone has their 'ish. No judgement here. 😁

[@Bb-yomomfugazzi]

Bro your hitting zone is 2 feet infront of where your hitting now. The second you do that your going to get to every ball and smash the shit out of them because your radius gives you power. Extend that arm and hit like Alcaraz that your style cuz your dimensions . your hitting all chocked up.

[@DominicNSX]

Great tennis guys👏 Winston missed 4 overheads at critical times and desperately needs to improve his first serve! Mat played defensively and did not go for the angles, kept hitting right where Wilson was on the court.

[@tonymxia6]

Some questionable line calls but pretty good tennis overall

[@gab_ale]

What gauge of Hyper G do you use?

[@WinstonDu]

16g

[@smueller12244]

"downgraded by the system"...hehe very nice way of saying it OR his own play led him there hehe. -also 4.5

[@WinstonDu]

he won more than he lost as a 5.0

[@Chigchigg]

Can’t help but feel matt is over rotating in his back hand and losing balance if it’s really under pressure with definite control/power leakage

[@chevgr]

Too much running around BH dude. Also why do you take it late on groundies? I feel like you could hit those earlier I like your channel and your tennis though. Clean hitting

[@JH-bb8in]

Against pushers like Matt, you have to hit harder, Winston