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[@setheastman4181]

I work 9 to 5 in an office. My job has me out in the community regularly and isn't eligible for work from home, which for me works really well. I leave AT 5, To the point where one of my coworkers said "you don't stay a minute past so you?" Uhhh no.

[@gbl8049]

@@setheastman4181 same for me. I have to work everyday 10 minutes more so that my boss won't complain. I don't like that. Also, she usually tells me I have to stay longer just 10 minutes before I leave.

[@slick8086]

Another example of psychopathic behaviour by corporate leadership.

[@chrisegonsearlemusic]

The whole thing has been deleted from everywhere.

[@mushroomsteve]

Re: 6:49 -- "It's not that I'm lazy. It's just that I don't care." -- Office Space

[@jazznickel]

If she terminated his employment for not working overtime without pay, it sounds like she has set herself up for a lawsuit. This is a great confession posted online

[@Cloverkitty]

No kidding. He'd be so low energy to not jump on this shit 😂

[@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos]

He contacted a lawyer but his spelling was so bad they couldn’t understand what his issue was

[@bayanon7532]

Young people think that if you are butt-hurt for any reason you can just run to a lawyer and get a lot of money. It would cost him up to $100,000 in attorney fees and probably would get nothing. Only lawyers make money. And they don't work 9-5 and set boundaries.

[@MrMementoOri]

​@bayanon7532 most labor lawyers will listen for free and if your case has merit, they do it with their legal fee baked into the damages.

[@dont_harsh_my_mellow]

@@MrMementoOri if most jobs are at-will, can’t the organization just get away with it? I’m not sure there’s a strong case to be made for those whose bosses fire them after they refuse to do overtime etc. Ow.

[@cristinat.8639]

The harder you work, the more you get rewarded with more work. Article writers like this are just angry the new generation figured it out.

[@nopelandfill]

Bingo!

[@TKUltra971]

Ain't that the truth. I worked a job in the past 10 years where I went above and beyond making my team manager look good and my own work look good. What did they do? Told me it was meeting expectations and I needed to do more x, y and z. Meanwhile I was running circles around anyone else who attempted to do my post. Hot garbage. You work for yourself only for yourself. When that clock is done - you're done.

[@cristinat.8639]

@@TKUltra971 Absolutely! I can relate so much to your experience. Same thing happened to me on my first job as a copywriter. I tried to break into the industry and would work my ass off. Boss took credit for my ideas. It was then that I learned it's every man for himself and all of that family BS is just that - BS.

[@fixer1140]

Give this woman a truck full of cookies ✊🏻

[@icemans1matedude339]

@@cristinat.8639 May you never deal with that bull crap again.

[@Kalivahcide]

I was a young and naive worker and I was panicking because I didn't finish a project by the end of the day on Friday. It didn't have a due date, but I still was going to stay late to finish it. My older coworker caught me and said "go home, enjoy your weekend, the work will still be here on Monday." I've never forgotten that.

[@william4996]

Similar thing happened to me when I started my job. I was going to skip part of a party to finish work and my manager came by and said that to me. It was nice.

[@1313tennisman]

legend

[@gavinjenkins899]

The fact she wrote this article publicly is almost more of a red flag of her being bad at business than the content itself.

[@littlesongbird1]

From what I recall, after she wrote it she got so much hate she had to get off of social media.

[@true_plays_games]

Clearly a human with less-than-zero self awareness.

[@annaniskanen2557]

@@littlesongbird1 Frankly, this is one instance where I am not even sorry for her. Even if she thinks like this she MUST know how much push back this kind of thinking nowadays gets. I mean, the whole article IS about that! And she somehow thought she would only get few people whining and that's it? She is a woman of business and yet she had no sense of PR or "do not dig yourself into a gigantic hole"? Tough luck.

[@NLVDragon2054]

Also she’s a hypocrite: she can’t spell the word ‘axe’ correctly; yet, she gives her direct report crap for bad spelling. GTFOOH!

[@fobbitoperator3620]

*bad character

[@thefrankring]

As a business owner, you cannot expect other people to work more and be more excited than you about your business or company.

[@Eluderatnight]

Ikr. Are you giving me a profit sharing percentage.

[@ashurean]

You can't expect other people to work more and be more excited than you pay them to

[@user-ri9tt2ip4m]

Aye. I worked in a local IT company, where CEO would send us emails at 2 am asking work related stuff. Weekend calls and after hours random calls for the "quick question". Pay was shite and people would be canned for expressing concerns over tracking software. And every monthly meeting he would talk about how passionate we should be.

[@neolid1051]

Yep. Don’t know why is it so hard for some dumb people out there to understand that. It’d make as much sense as being as invested on someone else’s romantic relationship as the couple itself.

[@scriptkeeper8243]

@@neolid1051 so you mean, I shouldn't be so excited about so and so's gender reveal party?

[@TON-vz3pe]

If your boss calls you after work hours, then call him back when he is sleeping, repeatedly, asking questions. I did the same with my past manager and from that moment he always thinks twice before calling.

[@theraven.4]

😂

[@franz3810]

HAHAHAH

[@grmpEqweer]

Passive-aggressive. I like it.

[@papajohnsuk5965]

this is the way

[@nopelandfill]

BiG bRaIn

[@avinashsingh7649]

It's absolutely ludicrous that the boss would think writing this article would make them look anything other than insane

[@someone-ji2zb]

It is all just for others in her same position, not the 'plebs' underneath so to speak.

[@johnhawthorn5393]

Women ☕

[@jamied1579]

Many women bosses are also power-trippers and love doing this kinda thing - especially if it's men they're lording it over, because many women will agree with them when it comes to denigrating and demonising men, even without knowing the full story

[@lilywong9672]

@@johnhawthorn5393 WTF are you on? More bosses that do what she did are male. Incel.

[@JohnQ5]

​​@johnhawthorn5393 I think this is less a gender thing and more of an issue with capitalism or corporate "culture".

[@bernardweaver2416]

It's great that she wrote this article. Now any potential future employees of hers will know exactly where she stands.

[@joshuasaucedo2795]

Honestly we should write anyone who employs her to fire her for creating toxic work environments. she should ALSO be unemployed for this bs and should be made an example of so that managers become afraid of doing this shit. like no bullshit, spreading this kind of toxic bs should result in being homeless for a while.

[@mactireliath2356]

Lizard people like the writer of this article will always have work; they will be the company shill until they are rewarded with just enough power to abuse it. There’s always room in a corrupted culture for another culture to feast.

[@valmirius]

Long may this continue

[@fakename3208]

Imagine being so salty that an employee had the balls to stand up for themselves that you write a whole article about it

[@YouKnowMeDuh]

It really shows how little work she actually does to have the time to do this lol.

[@jermmcnasty420]

Salty, entitled and full of herself. Classic writer.

[@michaelzevallos6923]

So much this

[@joshl6275]

She sounds like a narcissist to me. Completely oblivious to her own bs.

[@LilRofl]

😂 well put

[@jimmotheus6151]

Fun fact. In several EU countries it is illegal to contact employees outside of work time. This includes email.

[@fcharrua]

It shouldn't be illegal to email, since those can be ignored by the employee. There's nothing wrong with my boss sending me stuff for me to read the next day at my starting hour.

[@pathfinder6997]

@@fcharrua the bosses can easily send scheduled emails

[@neel6978]

which countries?

[@fromscratch2654]

As a german i can totally confirm that. We have very strict rules about that. We first of all are not allowed to exceed 8 work hours/day. But it can be extended to 10 hours, if it averages out to 8 hours in between 6 months. The boss may send you mails after hours but workers are legally not obligated to read them theire free time. As far as i know in Finland the lunch break counts even as work time (which does not in germany). You get all kinds of bonus in Finland, when you work on sundays or on special holidays like christmas. (For Sunday work it is twice the paycheck). Another fun fact: there was a study in sweden, where people got to work only six hours instead of 8 for the same salery. The result was that the people had worked more efficently and it led to better quality results, which compensated the reduction of work time. With a little googling you will find the study.

[@monikaivanova4864]

it is not illegal, it is the culture in companies. the server does not deliver emails sent from company aca from managers outside working time. I know I am from Europe

[@someone-ji2zb]

Currently working for a company that boasted that last year they broke sales records and 'thanked' us for all the hard work, and they kept reminding everyone how many records were broken for months. Well it turns out that all of these 'insane records' being broken is not translating into any bonuses or into any pay raises, so why in the crap even tell us that records were broken and that they expect us to keep breaking them with our effort? So many managers/bosses in general now days have no idea how to handle their workplace morale when they know they can't/wont give out more money.

[@pathfinderlight]

I hate to break it to you, but all the record breaking bonuses were probably shelled out by corporate, but the managers and bosses kept all of it for themselves.

[@Hamajaang]

Going “above and beyond” for most employers just leads to them take advantage of you. It goes from “you’re doing a great job and I’ve been hearing good things about you” to “ you don’t even know how to do your job correctly” when the topic of a pay raise comes into play🙄 Always be cautious of companies saying they are trying to build a “family” environment. All that means is they want you to have some weird cult like dedication to them and take on extra responsibilities without extra pay.

[@check7469]

The one thing I hate to hear is "we are a human sized company".

[@gatorslife22]

School literally trains you to watch the clock.

[@Bradimoose]

Yep, and my office is set up so that everyone sits in cubicles facing the "executives" in the glass offices in front of us like a classroom and a teacher.

[@Zefinfer]

@@Bradimoose rofl

[@gatorslife22]

@@Bradimoose Power move much

[@JLBribiesca]

And to follow orders, not think critically and not learn necessary skills to make money

[@frutonana]

@@JLBribiesca Those who think critically run their own business =)

[@jkardi9803]

I'm in Gen X and had overworked almost every job I had, given up my personal life and had terrible work/life boundaries in my 20's & 30's. I've progressed less in my career than younger colleagues who have boundaries. This writer has archaic expectations.

[@horsepanther]

Same. I finally quit my last employer and started a dog walking business. I don't hustle and make a fortune but I still make more than when I was an employee. And I work far fewer hours, get to spend them outside with dogs, and answer only to my clients. And I don't have to deal with bullshit. With my extra hours I relax, get things done that used to be extremely difficult during business hours, such as go to preventative health appointments, stay in touch more with family and friends, and if I weren't so lame I'd also be working on my second novel.

[@bradmesser4807]

I push myself to work a lot, but I respect the people I want to employ. At minimum, at least tie equity to performance goals and vest immediately my dear goodness. If you run out of design space, go start another startup, but then we have people being jerks. This work isn't this hard.

[@maniacmatt7340]

It's a sad truth.

[@IssanCaliRefugee]

Most of us have grown up watching our parents give their all, only to get little in return. This is the result.

[@JabelldiMarco]

You were cheap and exploitable; why should any boos change that by promoting you? It's good that you learned it and can adapt you're work life.

[@VadiseDeHanyou]

Sounds like she was very proud of her 'power' to just fire someone.

[@littlemas2]

I worked a job for 8 years where I progressed from maintenance guy to assistant manager. At one point after I got into management and on salary, I figured out my hourly wage at one point, and I was making less than minimum wage. I threatened to quit at one point and got a raise, but not as much as I wanted. A couple years later, when dating my then fiance, I was no longer as committed (mind you I kept track of hours and I was working just as many) and was leaving early every now and then to be with my now wife of 25 years, my boss told me "you're going to have the rest of your life to spend with her" as a justification for why I should be more committed to the job. That was the moment she lost me. I quit soon after.

[@trianglesandsquares420]

Lol. Just the rest of your life? Like the 2 hours a day you have left over after working for them? Lmao, and for the rest of your life, it's amazing how ignorant she was about saying that.

[@pauldehart744]

Yea, on your death bed, you wish you spent more time at work. Right

[@esm1817]

Haha. As opposed to your coworkers who will either ultimately leave or get fired, so you have no incentive to build any kind of long-term relationship with?

[@maynardmckillen9228]

Say...your boss was a moron.

[@Mars-ng9fn]

I have a feeling Gabrielle's family and romantic relationships have really suffered from her lack of work boundaries

[@b_g_c3281]

I believe she's a full-blown narcissist. Her firing an employee because they insisted on having/maintaining boundaries screams as much to me...

[@KateeAngel]

I am aromantic person, and very introverted, and still would never be willing to sacrifice all my free time to work. Some employers forget that employees are people, not robots

[@NathanCline12-21]

I don't believe they suffered, they were spared.

[@Oncewerethrough]

I have a feeling everyone suffers around Gabrielle.

[@PoptartParasol]

@cablecow15 let's be honest, she would never get cats, they are very 'boundaries' oriented. Just TRY and invade their privacy/limits when they don't want it and see what it gets you...

[@jmac5951]

I'm retired. I'm glad younger people are fighting back against corporations that use and abuse them.

[@swishfish8858]

As a younger person, thank you for keeping an open mind about the way culture and society evolves, instead of just saying "it worked in my day, why doesn't it work now?!".

[@hypothalapotamus5293]

As a Millennial, this article is the first time I've heard of us attaining professional success through hard work. I thought we were just chronically unhappy and never really compensated as well as past generations were.... I guess that's a supervisor's definition of professional success...

[@izifaddag8221]

I completely agree. I also retired. I am poor. Just SS. I couldn't make a living in corporate America. In 50 years all I saw was an elite make all the money and the actual workers be abused. It got worse as time went by. They chiseled benefits so health insurance was an early casualty. They chipped away at the 401 contributions. Vacation was another victim. Annual bonusses were a laughable tap dance. The last one I witnessed was when managment got massive bonusses and the workers got half a percent. Bear in mind that they were making about $8 or 9 and hour so half a percent was a joke. Managers were making $150k a year and were receiving maybe $10k apiece. A slap in the face. I applaud the younger people fighting these aholes.

[@waitaminute2015]

I have a few more years to go. Things have dramatically changed and I'm glad to see the kids fighting back this nonsense.

[@lunarmodule6419]

@@izifaddag8221 So true! Thx to Reagan and Thatcher - the job market degraded year after year. Today people cannot live like their parent on one salary with a normal mortgage. And so everyone is in deep debt. It's really time to fight back

[@Raptor3388]

I remember when my parents worked in the 90s before the constant presence on the internet and text messages, once they were home, there was never work related topics in the house, or phone calls or emails. My dad had an odd schedule and he cherished being home, my mom had a 9-5 and sometimes stayed a bit later but rarely. So to say this culture of boundaries from work is new, is complete ignorance.

[@garettdoornwaard4822]

If youre needed enough you have a lever. I made my boss buy a company phone for me and blocked him from my personal phone so he can only reach me during work hours. Stand up!

[@slimeinabox]

“She was a bad reporter, but I fired because she wouldn’t seks with me.” Same vibe I get from her first line.

[@NymbusCumulo928]

Yeah, probably wanted a young male intern she could manipulate. Men do the same thing in the corporate world but at least we don't write hit piece articles when we fire them for basic self confidence.

[@IsraelCountryCube]

@@NymbusCumulo928 We? Lmao what the fokck. It's not a we my guy. It's a you. Not me though. She was definitely a female predator let's just assume that righteously because females do it all the damn time.

[@WexMajor82]

And that's, probably, exactly what happened.

[@Zoloft77]

Imagine if she lost her position because of A.I.

[@marvzramos2992]

@@Zoloft77 I'm at the camp who believes that most of these writers have already employed AI in writing their articles for a few years now.

[@SimGunther]

"That's crazy that someone would have 'boundaries' instead of working 130 hours a week for a job that's paying below minimum wage" - Every CEO ever

[@SvenDzahov]

Oh it pays minimum wage, but for 40 of the 130 hours they want you to work.

[@nopelandfill]

Put them in the employee shoes for a month or two, and watch how they go insane

[@dannyhantx]

@@SvenDzahov The overtime pay is still the bare minimum they are legally required to pay someone. So technically it's still minimum wage.

[@SvenDzahov]

@@dannyhantx kinda funny. Ive worked 2 internships at massive corporations whose “overtime pay” policy is to not report it. Legally sure they are supposed to do that. But do they? Sometimes

[@gwills9337]

@@dannyhantx lots of ways employees get fucked by founders. Exempt status means no OT pay and as an independent contractor min wage laws don't apply

[@elchapothetaco5719]

My current boss often hints at pushing people to do unpaid overtime. He always phrases it like "If we have to stay back to do it then that's what we have to do" rather than directly asking "Hey can you work overtime please?"

[@maynardmckillen9228]

Gutless weasel-speak.

[@jlrva3864]

From my experience, working above and beyond was not rewarded but became expected, with one exception. One time, a manager saw that I was working weekends and evenings (no social life then, so why not) and sent me to Denver for a 6 month assignment with per diem. Best assignment ever. Otherwise, too many abusive bosses exploiting their power to force us to work extra hours. I stopped putting up with that when I got married. Haven't regretted that decision since.

[@shuriken4852]

I had a co-worker that would put in extra hours without being paid and delay his vacation, because the team/company needed him, then they decided to fire hundreds of employees to meet their shareholder dividend target, so they fired him. And they wonder why people are no longer willing to prioritize work over quality of life. 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@ChrisPTY507]

I hope that fired employee learned his lesson and stopped caring about companies after that experience. Hopefully he swallowed the whole red pill

[@nervotica7991]

Sounds 100% correct.

[@fixer1140]

Did he get any ice cream before getting fired?

[@shuriken4852]

@@fixer1140 Nope, but they did offer the standard placement training for free.

[@shuriken4852]

@@ChrisPTY507 Worst thing is that I had warned him about exactly what happened and that by doing extra work for free or sacrificing life balance, he was making the other employees look bad and making them feel like they had to do it too. So it was kind of poetic justice that he got his ass fired and I didn't.

[@colind7678]

What a lot of people don't understand is that an HR department is there to protect the company, not the employees.

[@Syncopia]

Not these days it isn't.

[@imo098765]

@@Syncopia It always is to protect the company. Its to make sure that you cant sue them for unlawful shit that happens to you.

[@runningfromabear8354]

@@Syncopia Oh god yes it is. I worked at a company that used to only one person in HR and they were hired from the marketing department (this was before I worked there). HUGE mistake. Company almost went under when employees sued one after another for broken employment standard laws that the HR person was clueless about. They fired the HR person and hired someone with a gender studies degree. Fifteen years later and didn't lose a single case again and have remained profitable. Hire someone with some decent awareness of both employment standards but also to avoid pitfalls that could be challenged and you will keep your ass out of the fire. The owner is still an asshole but his company hasn't done any stupid shit during COVID because his HR department manager is run by someone who knows what they're doing.

[@pkkkks]

@@Syncopia it always is, the HR is a service hired by company owners, it's to protect the company from employers

[@jcl644]

Lol, what a pack of lies from that guy about HR with gender studies as a good qualification. Anyone who studies in nonsesnes is just nonsesne. Go peddle ur lgbtq agenda elsewhere

[@zendean5207]

People who work for you are putting their dreams on hold to work on making your dreams come true. There is no salary, no matter how high, that could possibly say thank you enough, for a person doing that for you. The gratitude you must feel, must be profound.

[@johnpatz8395]

What this psycho overlooks is a very important skill, especially for salary personnel, and that’s knowing the difference between things that needed to be done immediately, and those that can be put off an hour/day/week, to concern on the immediate needs. I’ve never had any issue working over, even when salary, to finish a time sensitive project, but I’m not going to stay late to get extra work on a non time sensitive projects.

[@leslieyancey5084]

Employers whining about not being able to exploit their workers anymore is to be expected. They’re losing power and their masks are slipping!

[@leslieyancey5084]

@Martin Sanders Doing work off the clock is illegal. Take them to court!

[@micosstar]

@Martin Sanders geee whiz off the clock labor is slavery

[@denofpigs2575]

​@@martinsanders6915Make sure to save and spend time documenting every interaction you had, old text messages, emails those sorts of things.

[@LethalByChoice]

@@martinsanders6915 *Take them to court.* Off the clock work through coercion is illegal. They will lose and you will get a lot of money from it.

[@JohannRosario1]

Yes but these are a special set of employers. They are not like you and I. These are Sociopaths or Psychopaths who have acquired power over others. They are the ones complaining.

[@Frogger601]

I would love to see this article used in a lawsuit about being wrongfully terminated. She states explicitly that she fired the employee for working his contracted hours.

[@shaunlasich2330]

If everything in the article is completely true, she also states that his actual work was deficient enough for him to have been fired, but he was given an opportunity to make up for it. He refused.

[@caitthecat]

@@shaunlasich2330 But the article blatantly says it was because he wouldn't work beyond 9-5. She also never said he would be compensated for extra work, nor did she say in his contract that overtime was expected. It's pretty clear she's in the wrong. A good case can be made against her just from this article.

[@freddymedina-ui7mm]

​@@shaunlasich2330lawyer here, nO. You cannot create your own proofs. You cannot write an article yourself and then expect it to be used as a proof against somebody else. It can, however, be used as proof against you. So yeah, legally speaking writing this article is shooting yourself on the foot.

[@0potion]

​@@shaunlasich2330Are you the The manager that I had at Wendy's 5 years ago? Cause that stupid sacker shit thought that it wasn't illegal to make people stay after clocking out to redo a floor. You got a fire very fucking quickly. It doesn't matter how bad if a job someone did, Nowhere in America is it legal to force someone to fix their mistakes without pay. So like the other People have said Just This article alone is grounds for a lawsuit.

[@LethalByChoice]

@@shaunlasich2330 No? She literally admitted that she fired him because he did not want to work beyond his contractual hours, being 9-5. If she fired him for it then that is illegal as fuck.

[@dadeamatic3772]

I’ll never understand why in a world where civilized balance is such a thin line, people feel safe enough to spit in the face of others like this. Like, seriously, treat people right because you never know how many psychos are out there ‘till you piss one off. I’ve talked to a few and man I’ve always tried my best to be nice in general, but they taught me why you do it. We treat people fair because it really is a gamble to take advantage of someone. And boy the house might not always win, but when it does…

[@cheesygal]

I had a friend who had become emotionally and verbally abusive. I set up boundaries very kindly and clearly. She responded by abusing me more in writing. I communicated my boundaries more clearly. To which she vehemently accused me of putting boundaries before relationships. I said, yeah, that’s how boundaries work. I’m free of the abuse now.

[@adibchyy]

If you are the business owner, you can’t expect your employees to work as hard as you, because they have no stake in your company.

[@NoName-eu2xw]

I gave you a thumbs up. Should the employees work as hard as the employer if they are not getting the same benefits? How do we define "as hard" I'm not trying to challenge you in a debate. It's KZbin, never know the intentions of the comnments

[@harpiessnow]

I worked for a company that was family owned. I was able to interact with the owner who was a little fat old man who couldn't walk anymore. He was a funny dude, but I loathed him at times. He sat comfortably in his little mansion with his wife. He would always brag about how he works 80+ hours a week, when all he did was watch the news and read articles pertaining to gold/silver/platinum buying and selling. He got to live the high life off of the work his employees did and claimed that sitting in a rocking chair for 80+ hours reading articles was working. Not even counting the fact that he only paid 15% of the value of those precious metal on average, unless it was something he could resell at an exaggerated cost. He also paid me shit because "you use a company car," while then saying I couldn't use said vehicle for anything other than work. I quit on the spot after 1 year and making only $2 above min wage while doing all the work his regional manager did. I made sure to ensure that all the stuff I managed while making less than a burger flipper was badly sorted and in random places before I left. Heard the Regional Manager flipped when he saw the state of their storage units after I realized they were milking me for hard labor. Just as how he milked the misery of the people selling their jewelry or precious metals for profit (most people trying to make ends meet came to the stores, or trying to get money to buy their kids gifts for once). No one, not even small business owners, care for you more than yourself and you should always strive to upgrade when the opportunity presents itself.

[@stickyfox]

@@NoName-eu2xw You're absolutely right. Smart employers understand this and compensate their employees in ways that they *do* value.

[@mattsmith7490]

@@NoName-eu2xw I own a small business. I pay a fair wage for a fair days work, but here is why my employees will never get the same benefits as me. When times are good, they get their checks. When times are bad, they still get their checks, even if I don't get anything. I risked all of my treasure to start my business, they risked nothing. If the business didn't make it I lose everything. So if you want to get some skin in the game, you can invest $20 or $10 grand into the business. I have made that offer to every all my employees. None of them had the balls to invest. So, No... When the time comes when I get sweet paydays, they still just get their checks.

[@themulti-coloredcanary5795]

As a small business owner, I say this all the time. if you expect the unexpected, you WILL be disappointed.

[@GhostOfSnuffles]

"Careers in industries like law, medicine, and architecture established reputations early on as high-powered and rigorous" You know what they also had? high wages. You can't threaten a minimum wage worker the same way you can threaten a 8+ figure salary worker. Threatening to fire a minimum wage worker for not doing more is like threatening to cut the legs of a paraplegic if they don't do more leg exorcises.

[@AFuller2020]

true

[@BarAlexC]

Yet, architecture is nowhere near med and law pay levels. Or even programming, for that matter.

[@jakefromstate907]

Not necessarily, because a person making good money might have savings and other resources to fall back on if there were fired, than someone working minimum wage. You can't really threaten an employee making that much, you have to keep them happy, it's nothing for an engineer to quit their job for a month or two & find another one. If a McDonald's employee does that they won't be able to pay bills, they'll lose everything.

[@samguy7209]

where are you getting 8+ figure salary worker information from? not all jobs in those industries make that amount.

[@misssincere5762]

This right here lol 😂

[@waltjames407]

Good to hear you younguns finally speaking out against employers who manipulate workers into long hours with little to no reward, expecting workers to stay late or work the weekend with zero notice, often forcing people to cancel plans they've had for months to spend time with families and friends, just so they can keep their job. Keep at it. I've been saying this sort of thing since I was in my 20s, but back then people were fully brainwashed into that culture. And remember, in some European countries, workers are given a month off every year almost from the get-go, the work day is 8 hours long, and some industries have cut it back to a 4 day work week. And somehow they have a higher standard of living than we do.

[@kalenluck]

Loving all your content going through from most popular down. Keep on putting this stuff out there

[@Nerobyrne]

imagine this in any other relationship. "I left my girlfriend because her insistence on boundaries" "I'm no longer friends with Jack because of his insistence on boundaries" "We disowned our kids because of their insistence on boundaries" Hell, even just some rando you're chatting with in the park is expected to have boundaries. But oh no, god forbid your EMPLOYEES have them!

[@tbex613]

So accurate! 😂

[@sponkmcdonk3898]

borderline rape

[@TheInator1234]

@@KZbinTookMyNickname.WhyNot Wait, you did WHAT to your mother?

[@penguin12902]

@@KZbinTookMyNickname.WhyNot none of those things have anything to do with boundaries. Those are examples of behaviors.

[@pbonfanti]

If they are serfs and you are nobility, then boundaries are not on the table...

[@guitarpaul1]

‘My first-ever direct report’. She didn’t even refer to him as a person

[@shayejackson5822]

So vile.

[@dirtycommtroop]

power trip

[@wiseonwords]

Despicable! This woman is toxic.

[@destroyonload3444]

probably last-ever direct report if potential job seekers see it. I saw someone else say the article had been taken down (didn't check it out for myself)

[@tbex613]

@@destroyonload3444 I hope so. This woman doesn't belong anywhere near a management position!

[@cynthiacarmody6906]

Love you, Josh! You are so awesome & strong. I’ve followed you for years & saw your battles with your family & how they used you. You come so far in your life & im so happy for you. 💖🎉👏💖

[@CheeseLayong]

I go above and beyond in my work during business hours. I pace myself and work off hours only when it's absolutely necessary. Its a good image to project and find ways to let people know that you did so. It's about exhibiting your capacity. Lets be real, work is just a game. Gotta play it a little bit. I've excelled at every job and made all these folks and their fancy degrees/certifications look bad. Just be tenacious and resourceful, that will help distinguish yourself from others.

[@Kloutkulture]

I remember working for T-MOBILE and the VP spoke to us. He went on a rant about how work-life balance was wrong and we need to look to have work-life synergy and how our work should be apart of every part of our life. I quit shortly after.

[@KaeYoss]

Yeah, sounds like Deutsche Telekom alright. I can't think of a company where the management deserves more to be put against a wall and shot.

[@travv88]

I hate that shit. All that corporate sickening propaganda. I only really relate to people I directly work with and know on a somewhat personal level.

[@Kloutkulture]

@@KaeYoss Right! The most insufferable brainwashed idiots ever.

[@Kloutkulture]

@Susel Oh they’ve been the uncarrier for years they just go back and fourth with how they advertise it. So when I first started we were the uncarrier but couldn’t say the word. It was such a sickening and mentally painful company to work for

[@maryanne2025]

Sounds similar to what Jeff bezos has said

[@randyriegel8553]

My current boss in his email signature has a slogan that says: "I may have sent this after hours but I don't expect you to reply until next business day #WorkLifeBalance". When I first started at the company I got told to "calm down and do your 8 hours it will be there tomorrow" because they saw me online so much because I was trying to prove my worth. So it was good when my boss is telling me to not focus everything on work.

[@DominikBialy_]

This is so cool. I genuinely think there is nothing wrong about sending email to the employee even in the middle of the night as long as you don't expect it to be acted upon until work hours. You should just have separate work email and never bother checking it outside of work hours.

[@dudette2c]

@@DominikBialy_ there's this cool feature on emails that let's you schedule emails to go out at the time you pick. I invite you to use it and schedule your emails to go out at 8 am next morning my friend.

[@logicphile6207]

@@dudette2c There's this really cool feature on emails that lets you ignore them.

[@xXDESTINYMBXx]

@@dudette2c there's this feature called folder, where you can channel your work mails into.

[@saint103]

@@dudette2c there's this cool feature on emails that's called "logging off" cool stuff, really

[@modifiedjaymill]

I don’t work overtime unless I get paid overtime. If a deadline is gonna require extra work but I’m not gonna get paid to finish it, then it wasn’t that important of a deadline. I get tired of working at Companies that give the minimum to succeed but have the highest expectations. Not to mention I also hope the person fired reads this article and decide to sue for compensation. If he did, then for her sake she better hope she holds true and have fired others for the same reason, or else attorneys would have a field day with Ms. HBIC

[@joeshmoe7485]

A lot of companies pay lip service to the concept of "work/life balance" but it's all just talk and when push comes to shove they want to encroach on as much of your personal time as you'll let them get away with. It's probably a good thing he got fired and can move on from that toxic boss.

[@NickDAngeloUX]

Hearing this makes me think what actually happened was HE made the decision to leave the job on his own terms and she decided to write an article about it to make herself feel better

[@jamesaritchie1]

She wrote an article about it because she got well paid, and received more publicity than ten million dollars could buy. If you think for a second she won't find someone who is willing to work harder and longer, you're living in fantasy land.

[@geprekbento7543]

She speaks womanese

[@jedimaster0667]

@@geprekbento7543 🤡 this isn't about gender this is about work. Get it straight

[@rapsody230]

@@geprekbento7543 Bro, no. She is just an arsehole, being a woman has nothing to do with it.

[@anontheshade]

Yea, if it was true the DOL might have a few words for her

[@CallowG]

I once got a "talk" from my "career counselor" at a consulting firm because I wouldn't travel for work because I had already told my parents I would house-and-dog-sit for them. Anyway he told me of how he had travelled away from his wife for eight months to work and then she left him. I said "no dude, YOU left HER." Anyway I got laid off and found a better job. A year later the company went out of business so that guy left his wife for his career and then his career left him. Cool.

[@CallowG]

@@GossAug Yes, but he paid for lunch so whatever. That company was also big on unpaid overtime. My attitude is that if work is worth doing then it's worth paying for. They had issues with a lot of my attitudes, hence the being laid off thing.

[@STScott-qo4pw]

@@CallowG you mean in your country you can legally be forced to work and not be paid?

[@CallowG]

@@STScott-qo4pw No of course not. But some companies "encourage" you to work unpaid overtime to "show commitment to the success of the project" and to be "a team player."

[@STScott-qo4pw]

@@CallowG gawd almighty. always some way to bully someone into doing something for nothing. sorry for this.

[@Person01234]

Was that supposed to motivate you? "Be more like me and you too can lose your wife".

[@AmericanLord]

I got a job selling paint in Walmart through a third party 2 mos ago. I’m already being prepped for a manager position and it wasn’t because I worked harder then everyone else it was because the manager related to me better then everyone else. I agree with you on this pal.

[@aeromedical6776]

Exactly. Promotions have as much to do with “best fit” as they do experience and skill set. I’ve moved ahead of my peers (many of whom had much better skill sets than me) several times in my organization because I relate better to leadership than others. They see things in me (more team oriented, better able to deal with adversity, more assertive, etc), that my peers don’t demonstrate as well. I also don’t create toxic environments when changes and expectations in the organization occur. This has served me well in my career.

[@thecivilservant7334]

The right to disconnect is a legal right that was first introduced in France in 2017 to protect workers from being penalised for not answering their phones outside of working hours. Since then, more than 20 countries have introduced similar policies including Spain, France and Ireland as well as the Canadian province of Ontario. The 2023 study by the Australia Institute found that employers "steal more than 280 hours from their employees each year," which equates to more than seven standard working weeks. Workers across Australia in 2024 could soon have a right to disconnect if parliament agrees to reform the Fair Work Act.

[@FirstLast-gk6lg]

Instead of "working Saturday to meet the Monday deadline", imagine a company that hires more people and can finish the project early without working overtime.

[@Perfidion]

"I'm sorry, Trevor. The hiring of additional staff is simply not in the budget this quarter. Maybe next quarter. (But probably not.) Also, have you seen my new Audi?"

[@dantejackson8670]

@@Perfidion "this" right here

[@weronikakarpowicz6935]

THIS! How come this never happens and you have to work overtime to catch up? Just hire more people!

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

After about 20 years working, I'll tell young people you should not have any loyalty to any organization, they will turn on you in a second when its convenient and fire/replace you. Also to ensure no slavery, young people dont get married and dont get a girl pregnant, make sure she takes the birth control pill daily in front of you and both wear protection. You will just condemn your new child to increasing poverty and freedomless slavery and these control/money/job trends worsen. Promote this idea in videos and social media to help prevent more young people into this new slavery.

[@hayuseen6683]

Hiring more people wont always help speed things, no matter how many cooks you have the egg wont boil faster. Sometimes things just take time. And investors need that sweet sweet accelerated profit, so the people they hire to wrangle the producers rush things.

[@AJStarhiker]

One of the most valuable work lessons I had was from a janitor: Never work off the clock.

[@Doors067]

I put up to an extra 15 minutes of my time maybe once or twice a month. I'm ok with that anything more is overkill

[@AJStarhiker]

@@Doors067 It's not just a pay issue. If you get hurt off the clock, good luck getting any kind of workers' comp.

[@elijahfeuerstein4710]

@@AJStarhiker My SO had a boss that didn't respect the time clock. He was working in the admissions dept as assistant to the head of admissions for a rehab facility (normal medical rehab, not drug specific). She would constantly txt him and call him asking about various contracts and paperwork. I told him he needs to start submitting for time worked for this to HR. He sat down with the scheduler (who hates this former boss), and asked if she wanted to do a funsies project involving this boss person to which she agreed because the scheduling boss lady had multiple axes to grind. They crunched the numbers and found out he was working an additional 25 hours off the clock a week, and he was hourly not salaried... at which point scheduling says "okay... this is no longer a fun project, this is serious business time. Can't let this slide we could get in major trouble." HR, corporate, and the facility administrator furiously came down on the head of admissions. The only reason she kept her position was because everyone above her decided it's more hassle than it's worth to fill all the paperwork, fight her lawers, and do battle with the local business council that she was the head of to get rid of her since she was 2 years short of retirement. ... the funny thing was... his boss lady (wearing her business council hat) was proud of him for getting his money... even if she was pissed she couldn't get the spare hours out of him anymore. Saddest part of the story a few years later it came back to us that this boss lady missed my SO because he "treated me better than my own son".

[@jdraven0890]

Salaried people who kill themselves for the job will convince you that is a smart thing to do. The truly smart people are the hourly workers who haven't bought into that.

[@homelessrobot]

@@homecomingday yes it probably is. And he can enjoy his life because of it. So thats fine. Have you never had a good job that was completely fucking intolerable? I'd rather be a janitor.

[@esmeraldagems9487]

My most recent job has given me red flags because they roasted their employees about being really lazy but I have not seen harder working people since I worked at McDonald's lol. My current coworkers might have lazy moments but they do their assigned tasks and they clean or take out trash when it needs to be done. And they're fast and efficient, etc. And comparing them to my last job which is a very popular sub shop (Not subway) where the employees are allowed to sit in their cars for hours while I'm in the store doing everything. After lunch is usually super slow so there's always one or two employees closing. I complained to the upper management multiple times and nothing got done. Then I ended up the bad guy for being upset and so I just quit. Some jobs just aren't worth the efforts because they don't care about the employees and they don't want to make efforts to keep employees.

[@kingmo565]

"You can't progress in your career, by just doing your job". This is actually 100% true. The competition is rough out there, if you think working 9-5 is ample, good luck being mediocre for the rest of your life.

[@goldendogs5398]

I had a boss that wanted to work late into the night on a project creating centerpieces for an event. I said, "No, I have a family that I need to get home to." The only reason she wanted to work late was because she did not plan properly. That was her problem and my family should not pay the price for it, so I left. I got targeted big time after that, but so what, it was the right thing to do. I left the company as soon as I found another job.

[@fredflintstone8048]

One of my favorite sayings in the workplace has always been, 'a failure to plan on your part does not create an emergency on my part'. I've seen this far too often where poor management, bad planning created expectations for employees to pick up the slack.

[@trianglesandsquares420]

Sigh. They probably found someone without a family to do that after

[@anthonymcglinch7503]

It seems to me that most of the problems management has arise from similar circumstances as this. Failure to plan on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine.

[@dredgewalker]

Women are awful at planning and they even get in trouble in their girls night out. They can't handle extreme work stress and they tend to break down when they can't handle the heat. Seen it happen so many times in my wifes school were she works as a teacher which predominantly staffed by females.

[@awbays]

I have no family, and I would never allow a company to dictate my free time. I have nothing to lose if they fire me either, like someone providing for a family does.@@trianglesandsquares420

[@anarchsnark]

As a writer too, I know it is her job to know how words work. It goes to show out how profoundly of the loop she is with current trends because establishing boundaries is seen as a smart, responsible thing to do. It has been popular in self help and mental health in the last few years. Saying his boundaries got him fired was NOT going to get her sympathy from anyone alive in 2021.

[@billgreathouse1913]

I imagine that it could make it more difficult to find replacements. Who wants to work for such a disrespectful ass. If she fired him for misspelling, I would have been OK with that. Spelling was a job performance issue, fair enough. Her lack of respect for boundaries amounts to theft. Let's say that his spelling were perfect, he worked as long as she asked and was attentive after hrs, great employee by her standards. So for this performance he takes a $150/week out of her purse. Just walks up and pilfers her wallet without notice or consideration. I don't feel like she'd think thats OK. As I see it, that is less of an offense that calling him after hours. Here's why. He can hand the money back and there are no losses. That time that he spends on the phone while at his kids baseball game, can't be returned. Imo, she just gave notice to perspective employees to steer clear. She also gave notice to potential employers to steer clear. I wouldn't want her in a leadership role or representing my company.

[@KeepItReal1]

When people write indepently or through the corporate govt owned sponsored media channels, they have to write articles that align with 'govt' narratives to help their corporate buddies. This is why ppl need to stop reading or watching govt sponsored anything. People need to learn who these media outlets work for and if they're part of the 6 media mega giants or their subsidies, then stop being brainwashed and ignore them instead of giving them a forum.

[@biljanas7931]

@@KeepItReal1 best comment yet on this thread, maybe post too 👏

[@cuivre2004]

@@billgreathouse1913 She should get a managerial position at Wal-Mart....oh, wait! Even they know better than to have their folks work after clocking out- because they got SUED for doing that!

[@violetenergy4392]

@@james_chatman White feminism??!! Omg, another liberal snowflake. Step off.

[@gamezswinger]

Excellent video! Keep them coming.

[@jackvoss1527]

A long time ago I worked for a manufacturing company that was forcing hourly people to work overtime for free. I suggested that was against the labor laws and the company could be in trouble if someone sued. My boss assured me that their lawyers had assured them it was all in the up and up. Well, someone complained to the state labor board. The state employment people came in and investigated. Long story short I got paid enough back pay to replace my roof. Everyone got paid their back overtime and the company was fined. It's not good business to try to rip off your employees and make sure you have good lawyers I guess.

[@cyberzenASMR]

when I read her idea of “work structures” and “long hours” and “all nighters”. I am reminded how my father set all his kids second to corporations. He had a lot of stress. We barely seen the guy. Climbed to management and then to director position. My dad died right before he turned 56. In an awful way. This woman is trying to coax adults to work themselves to death.

[@levantine1978]

I'm so sorry about your father. People like the writer of that article think that everyone should be excited about their dream as they are, despite the fact only the dreamer benefits. It's a failure of management, not a failure of the worker. If there's too much work for a workday, then management has failed to adequately staff for demand. Thankfully the current generation has realized that it's not on on them to subsidize the dreams of people like this. The days of the "Gold Watch" are long over and we should recognize that fact and prioritize accordingly.

[@DavidLLambertmobile]

The USA 🇺🇸 had 1000s of labor, 👷🏼‍♂️ hard working types of many trades, industry to create the modern society. Many people do not get that.

[@nickmitsialis]

The Japanese have a word for this: Karoshi.

[@bradmesser4807]

Yeah, I like corporate/enterprise for its scale, but the meeting culture needs improved on. I normally gut my schedule of most meetings so I can actually accomplish work and go home.

[@johnserosanguineous1886]

The bills were paid right? Ask your mom why he did that.

[@ryanjones2297]

Jobs that expect you to go "above and beyond" are expecting handouts. Not the workers problem that they can't afford to pay for the work that they expect.

[@user-zr6pl6nb6z]

Yep. I used to be the type of guy who would give my employer extra time, simply because I enjoy the work, but I don't do it anymore. They're ungrateful and give me no recognition for it, so they can shove it as far as I'm concerned.

[@J.A.Z-TheMortal]

The bigger problem is that big companies absolutely can afford more employees. They just dismantled unions and bought Washington in 1980 to make sure they didn't have to deal with any of that anymore.

[@ryanjones2297]

@@J.A.Z-TheMortal Unions are still a thing for lines of work that require skill.

[@yepdontcarebud]

​@@ryanjones2297as someone who's in a union, all jobs require skills.. you self indulgent skeeve.

[@laurafox3373]

If it is expected, is it “above and beyond”? If you tell me you expect ABC, I’ll give you excellent ABC, but if you also want DEF, let me know you want DEF.

[@SumireSakura]

My first company would LOVE this article. I used to work with these bachelors who lived with their parents. When they go home food is served, laundry is done. All they had to do was eat the food and shower and wear the clothes. And they expected me to be as "diligent" as them. When I would be early to work no one would notice. But if I would leave on time they would ask "leaving already? so early?" They were the worst ppl I had ever met.

[@kamilzakrzewski4338]

Right to the point.

[@maddogfargo3153]

This applies to US labor laws: If he was an hourly employee, it is actually ILLEGAL to do anything work related, including discuss projects/expectations or have 'mini-meetings', outside of work hours.

[@fakiirification]

depends on the size of the company. i think that law only applies to operations with over 100 people, and that have set scheduling clock in/clock out mechanics. some smaller operations allow employees to bill for hours. keep their own time card, etc. so if you have to stay 5 hours late to finish a task on a job site, no worries, just fill in your time slip.

[@brenkrasmer]

@@fakiirification but by posting time slips after the fact, that retroactively makes those hours into work hours. And thus an employee will be paid for those hours. Now the illegality of working off hours is more to be forced to work off-hours. An employee can willingly agree to some off hours duties, usually answering internal calls or responding to emails. The illegality is if the employee cannot claim that as work time, and yet is expected to do such duties regardless. If I want to be unavailable when off the clock. That is my right. I can choose to waive that right, but I cannot be forced to.

[@mariastevens6406]

Thanks for the info. I was unaware.

[@johngillon6969]

but you forget the main rule, is the golden rule. people with ;more gold write the rules. life ain't fair. no one is going to take care of you or protect you unless you have money and power.

[@lordblazer]

@@johngillon6969 so you just let your boss walk over you? lol that's a great career move to be stuck and abused at work. like class action lawsuits are a thing my man.

[@aurinator]

This is just a lawsuit *waiting* to happen, and it just blows my damn mind she would openly admit to EVERYTHING in a public post like that. I have a feeling her company is going to fire her unless she "corrects" her statements.

[@solegonz762]

I sincerely hope she gets sued

[@persona83]

That's women in charge. (KZbin, you're allowed to delete this comment)

[@kajikanna]

@@persona83 SHOTS FIRED

[@monkeybarmonkeyman]

If only the terminated employee were to find this video, eh? Delicious!

[@jerometruitt2731]

Narcissism sees no wrong.

[@MrChuckiebklyn]

All FACTS!!!! Be balanced in life. I would include we need to add spirituality in our every day lives.

[@414ruckuslifeMKE]

My last employer always pulled the "mandatory overtime or face attendance points". Yes, we would get attendance points for not working overtime hours. They'd give us 4 points per overtime shift that we refused to work. Once you get to 20 points you're fired. The last time I worked overtime for them was when I told them I could only work til noon on a Saturday (not my scheduled day) because my baby sitter wasn't available past 1230 that day. I left at noon, they gave me 2 attendance points for "missing half of the shift" but then they sent everyone home at 1pm that day.... but I still got the attendance points for it. After that I just straight up refused and said go ahead and give me the points I don't care. I don't think they ever gave me points after that cuz I never got fired for it.

[@peterpan408]

Seeing them attempt to defend an overtime points policy as grounds for constructive dismissal would be hilarious.

[@neuxell]

imagine applying for whatever working with her, googling her and finding this article of hers. There's no flag more red than this one

[@theironworks6797]

Gabrielle: *proudly looks up and off into the distance* "I managed people today."

[@SeaFlower38]

😂😂😂

[@viktorskarlatov8227]

looool

[@SM7SM7SM7]

Hilarious! 😂😂

[@matthewconnor6561]

Lmao. It's funny and gross at the same time.

[@Notallowed101]

she's a big girl now.

[@haraldalan8711]

Love this channel.

[@McClane4Ever.]

Here's one for the algorithm my dude.

[@caric8133]

I had a boss once and they made me put a reason why I wanted vacation request when I submitted it. Meaning they wanted to know where I was going and what I was doing. I told them I didn’t feel comfortable discussing my personal vacation and travel plans at work. She said that I wouldn’t get approved unless I followed her request. I finally started making stuff up. Saying I just wanted a personal day and wasn’t going anywhere. She then would they don’t feel the need to let me have this time off unless you’re going somewhere. WTF? That’s my personal vacation time that I earned! I quit soon after because she never respected my boundaries.

[@genxx2724]

I put in a request in January to take the week of Christmas off. By April it still wasn’t approved. Supervisor said she was waiting until later in the year because the newbies get transferred around, and she didn’t know who we’d have, or whether they’d already have time off approved by their previous supervisor . . . unless I had to buy plane tickets, then we could talk about it. Excuse me? I’d been there for 21 years. My family is a 90 minute drive away. I should not get bumped by someone just because they chose to move away from their family. And when I have decades of seniority and I made my request in January, there shouldn’t be any issue at all. They don’t think about the fact that resentment brews all year until the request is granted, and it’s a distraction from work.

[@SuperYoshi29]

@@genxx2724 I completely agree with your point. I gotta know though, did you get your time off approved yet?? If not at this point I would lie and say yes, Xmas plans changed and I do need to buy plane tickets

[@charleslambert3368]

The correct answer is camping in the hills, caving, hanging out inside a faraday cage. Don't bother trying to call.

[@SamBrickell]

Sounds like stalking behavior.

[@genxx2724]

@@SuperYoshi29 Thank you for your concern. I got injured and was off work over the holidays. But the injury was at the beginning of October, and my request was still waiting for approval. That’s ridiculous and abusive. It should be illegal.

[@TyKeU]

"You don't live to work, you work to live" I've been saying this for nearly two decades now whenever I've seen people stressing and working tons of extra hours for no reason. Fortunately I work for a good company that respects the work life balance and compensates whenever extra time is needed, even for salary employees.

[@rebeccahicks2392]

As Tuco from The Good The Bad and The Ugly said: "If you work to live, why do you kill yourself working?"

[@LethalByChoice]

People genuinely think those extra hours and extra money will mean anything in 20 years when they've missed out on important time with their loved ones that they will never get back. It's sad.

[@cornballmcgoo7174]

Thanks for this I will talk to her

[@mikemundy5685]

Well done for calling this out for what it is! Earned yourself a sub from across the pond.👌

[@bearvarine]

Boundaries are essential for good mental health. ESSENTIAL. Anyone who is deliberately challenging your boundaries and is unwilling to accept them is not a good person to spend your day with. We call that a Toxic Relationship.

[@trianglesandsquares420]

All jobs are toxic, but some are way more toxic than others.

[@Here4TheHeckOfIt]

True. This woman is toxic.

[@majdaonline]

She sounds like a Karen so she did him a favor. And I can bet that she didn't fire him - he left. Now she can't forget about him - he's the one that got away lol

[@afrivox]

He shouldn't have worked for a karen in the first place. A Karen who doesn't have a real company, she is a freelancer ffs and a Karen who has never managed sh*t, he was her first hire. And it was probably another freelancer, ie who else can a freelancer employ?

[@The1980Philip]

The fact is that you can only enforce your boundaries (in a "right to work countries") if your skills make you difficult to replace.

[@bogustoast22none25]

Getting out the army so I need to get this off my chest. Working hard means that they will rely more on you, less on the others, which frees the others and burdens you more. I now have 4 people who came in after me, all getting promoted, and none of them know half as much as me if you put them together on their job, vehicle maintenance, or where to find shit in general. I have my 1SG trying to convince me to stay and the only reason I don’t say “why didn’t you promote me, then?” Is because I’m afraid they would find that disrespectful and Article 15 me (basically lose my rank or get kicked out if they petty enough, which considering how they treat me, I fully expect.) No job, NONE is worth my happiness, and peace of mind, I have lost both for money, and although I have most of everything I wanted in life, I feel empty and lost.

[@Mandilore89]

I'm former Army too. From what I remember, there is a tactful way to ask this question. You just couldn't do it in the same way you can get away with in the civilian world. You could have reminded them that, if you're so valuable to them, you can only maintain that rank for so long before you're forced to leave PERIOD. Also, the re-enlistment thing, you could absolutely have bargained with that (though get that shit in writing!!!). Regardless, if you feel that getting out was the overall best move, then I respect it entirely!

[@mwfmtnman]

Kinda nice to see people pushing back like this. I was a high end waiter out in Pennsylvania for 16 years. You are paid 2.83 and hour plus the tips you make. I had numerous managers try to get me to do dirty busy work when it was slow. I would always tell them.no, that is not what I was hired for. Their response was always, "well, we pay you to do this stuff", and my response was "no, you don't even pay me enough to cover my tax liability fir the hours I work, the guests pay me, so I will hang out here and look after them, thank you, bye." Lucky for me I had far too many regular customers for them to fire me lol. The look on the managers faces still make me smile.

[@mwfmtnman]

@@homecomingday what a nonsensical statement

[@thisisreallife5086]

This reminds me of the movie Office Space and the supervisor's harassment over "expressing yourself" by wearing more "bling". Nothing to do with job performance. Jennifer Aniston gave the correct answer: middle finger to the face!

[@trianglesandsquares420]

They didn't replace you with someone else?

[@mwfmtnman]

@trianglesandsquares420 no. Because I brought in so many regular guests because my focus was on them. I brought in over 500k a year in revenue myself and had a regular following of people that wanted me, specifically, to take care of them.

[@asiabrew81]

This idea of ”working longer” as a virtue was finally framed to me as a specifically cultural one when someone stated that In Germany they don’t believe working more than your allotted 8 hrs is a sign of hardwork, in fact, it's a sign of a problem. Because why aren't you able to finish your work in the 8hrs given to you? This is a sign of a problem, not an asset, so it prompts investigation: Is it an issue w/ the employee or the business itself: Is the employee bad at time management? Multi-tasking? or is it a management issue, like not explaining tasks well or hiring enough workers? And here's where we get to why this is an American issue because it usually ties directly to our accepted corporate toxic culture of skeleton crews. In more rational times/places, we'd frame the inability to get work down during normal work hours as an issue to be addressed. But that led to actually highlighting the actual problem: Not enough workers, which wasn't a problem for management. It was by design. So we stopped highlighting longer hours as a problem and just normalized them. Instead of working longer in rare emergency instances, we made them the standard and then made it the employee’s problem of not accepting them as the issue. Yes, working past 9 to 5 is necessary: When you're working towards your own business/career. Working longer because a company refuses to hire the necessary amount of workers & eroding the traditional 9 to 5 workday exists because you have to do the job of two people for (likely) the pay of less than one and it is not seen as something that sets you apart if its standard operating procedure And it's not OK. It has not been ok, and has led to further nonsense like losing your job because you took a vacation or a day off to go to the dentist (all real things that have happened to people) because taking time off and preparing the office & delegating tasks to others so everything still works seamlessly w/o you for a few days/hours, like a "responsible worker", only tells your job "Ah, we can still run efficiently w/o Bob. Let's fire him, keep the salary/wage and get Jen to the extra work.". No pay raise btw. It's a scam that literally incentivizes people to A. Not take time off, EVER (hello mental breakdowns) B. Incentivizes doing the bare minimum, because there are no real rewards for being a good worker. Just more work, same crappy pay and C. Takes the focus off the business itself for shitty hiring practices that have eroded the work/life balance and put the burden on the worker (with the LEAST AMOUNT OF LEVERAGE) to advocate for that constantly eroded boundary.

[@jamesaritchie1]

Grow up and learn to work. Who knows, you might even make something of youraelf.

[@stuckp1stuckp122]

The Northern European cultures’s better life balance has made them the top flight economies. Better yet, people live longer by about 7 years. Meanwhile the US is last in Western industrial nations and dropping: in the end, fear of losing your livelihood as common motivator by employers, ends up killing any innovation.

[@TheAnianite]

You read my mind. And there are other macro issues too. You should have your own column as a writer!!

[@LordPrometheous]

This is an interest take, and it makes total sense. I was one of those folks who didn't take time off, though, because I'm unsocial and never cared to go anywhere during off days anyways. So what would happen is that in Q4, leadership would start reminding people about the use it or lose it policy with vacation days, and encouraged people to take their time off. One year, I kept putting it off and so I ended up having to be off from December 8th through January 4th (I used vacation days at the beginning of the year just so I wouldn't have so much accrued throughout the next year). I felt bad that my teammates had to cover for me with an already decreased staff during the holidays. Thankfully, AT&T (management side) didn't begrudge us for using our vacation time--it was encouraged so we didn't end up in my situation, taking off 3 1/2 weeks at once.

[@colbyboucher6391]

@@jamesaritchie1 Will you be more productive than Germany, though?

[@J3AD]

keep up good work

[@davidkermes376]

my first regular (though part time) job after high school was walking distance from home. i tended to get there 30 min to an hour early. one day the boss found out. she told me if i wanted to come in early i should just clock in, get to work and THEY WOULD PAY ME FOR IT! THAT"S how you work out boundaries! i loved that job.

[@solomonchong530]

People who ignore work/life balance and take on extra hours all the time are the one who enable the company to not pay people more/hire more people to do required tasks. Why would the company hire an extra person when they know Gabe will just do the work by staying late and working weekend?

[@beldiman5870]

The company pays a smartass guy like Gabe to be an example for other people trying to fool them in working longer hours without getting overtime pay. Employees are often treated like idiots who can easily be manipulated into working faster. harder and longer without any additional rewards. The sad thing is that too many companies succeed at doing this.

[@shadow7988]

Number one reason I hate working with Gen X'rs. It's less common in white collar, but when I was blue collar it was always the moron X'rs trying to drag everyone into working for free because of 'ethic' and other stupid crap that never translates into better treatment or pay. Glad they're dieing like the dinosaurs because they can't keep up with the changing workforce.

[@beldiman5870]

@@shadow7988 Not all Gen Xs are like that but you are right in saying that "ethics" and "solidarity" are often use as a moral obligation to make people work for free or a modest wage. Why is it considered ethical to work for free but not ethical to give employees a better wage?

[@shadow7988]

@@beldiman5870 Morpheus said it best. "There are people so reliant on the system, so desperately inured, that they will fight to protect it."

[@beldiman5870]

@@shadow7988 Sons of Anarchy also have a good quote :"Most human beings only think they want freedom. In truth, they yearn for the bondage of social order, rigid laws, materialism. The only freedom man really wants is the freedom to be comfortable."

[@missamanda2703]

My husband is leaving a decent company after 10 years for a better opportunity and a m-f after years of retail management. He felt some form of guilt, but I reminded him. You are a body for a corporation. It is overly kind that you gave them 4 weeks' notice. If they were firing him, there would be no notice or such concern. He would have his keys taken and be walked out.

[@rachelbarker332]

How much will your company miss you when you leave? You know when you put your hand in a bucket of water then take it out? The hole you leave will be like that one

[@InservioLetum]

Damn... Good catch, son. Changed to a like after your reminder, because although I *_VEHEMENTLY_* loathe fortune magazine and bosses like this, I very much like that you're calling attention to it and how you're framed it here. Like well earned!

[@septicwhelk3654]

I had a mate that worked for a boss that talked like this , all this work comes first didn't apply to them ( of playing golf ) just the minions .

[@darkdudironaji]

ALWAYS prioritize life over work. You can get a new job, but this is your only chance at life.

[@Account-br9kc]

If you consider your job just a job, it is kind of sad but I get it, but I sometimes find my work really interesting, which may cause me to work longer

[@darkdudironaji]

@@Account-br9kc You're lucky. My job is mind numbing and frustrating. So I've stopped going above and beyond.

[@korpen2858]

@@darkdudironaji Same, only thing that keeps me sane is audio books and podcasts

[@pickledparsleyparty]

I'd add "and always prioritize the work over career." Career requires a focus on kissing ass, forsaking integrity, and expediency. It's not satisfying. The work makes us smarter, more capable, more useful. I'd wager you'll never find a successful entrepreneur who values career over the work.

[@korpen2858]

@@pickledparsleyparty Straight out of "The Fountainhead" 👏

[@dmitry4580]

I've been a lazy ass developer working remotely all the time, idk, my career is going just fine.

[@anatitan5546]

That part is true about being "granted a life" is not in the company legal work contract.They know it.

[@beldiman5870]

If you keep on getting assignments and projects, you must be doing a good job. After all they might not think of you as being a lazy ass

[@watamutha]

Being lazy yet producing results doesn't mean you don't work, I think generally it just means you work with your mind more. People with small minds don't have that kind of mind so they just assume you're a low energy loser when in fact they're just dumb apes.

[@RainerLuizFonseca]

that's because "being a lazy ass developer" is a kind of "guilt" that we project in ourselves for basically not submitting to over-work. You're basically doing your work just fine, but feeling like you're doing less than required because you have the internalized idea that you should be doing more.

[@edwardroh89]

as long as ceos are milking the system with stock buybacks, some buying politicians, offshoring jobs, cutting workers off at the drop of a hat, getting social handouts from the government, stopping people from unionizing (and the list goes on), why shouldn't we milk the ceos? They set the example of stealing, so we should steal from them. It's only fair in their perception of meritocracy

[@aeromedical6776]

I am so fortunate. I work from home and I’m not bound to any specific work hours. I work until I get done what needs to be done. My boss doesn’t hawk over me but expects me to deliver what I’m being paid for. That mutual trust is the best working relationship I’ve ever had in my adult life. I make just over 6 figures (including bonus), and she allows me the time needed to insure my home life is not being neglected. My company takes excellent care of me from a benefits perspective. Locality works both ways as testament to me celebrating my 21st year with my organization later this month

[@CharlieRasch]

Technically, this is what lawyers would call a hostile work environment.

[@JohnVKaravitis]

In Germany it is ILLEGAL to send work emails after work hours or during the weekend. BOUNDARIES!

[@tonyjones1560]

Germany rocks! If I ever make it back there, I'm NOT leaving...

[@vi9126]

Well, MediaMarkt surely brokes several of those rules

[@oODakoTaOo]

I'm german, if this is real then I might should sue my boss

[@SaraBlu]

Never heard of that before. Liebe Grüße aus der Hauptstadt

[@swishfish8858]

Ironically, Germany is where this bloated workload culture started. You guys did it like 200 years ago, and everyone just copied it. Only difference is, you evolved out of it.

[@LordTails]

I've had toxic relationships where they have said very similar things to that writer. It never ended well. If nearly two years of therapy and a mental breakdown have taught me, never settle and always maintain your boundaries.

[@Eluderatnight]

Not just maintain but fortify them.

[@gilbey80]

Spot on!

[@Hazard0ss]

The "you won't have a career working 9to5"-talk usually comes from bosses that cannot provide career opportunities in any way to their employees, they just want free labor.

[@iCANT_BELIEVE_YOU_SAID_THAT]

WOW. Just WOW. Let the "workers shortage" continue. Can't treat employees like shit. 8 hours of work is enough.

[@SirCanuckelhead]

Funny how there are workers out there. Just no jobs with appropriate wages and exp required.

[@JoshSweetvale]

Sadly, overturning Roe v Wade is the 'deep state' (such as it is, just a bunch of mafiosocial clubs) response. BREED AND REPRODUCE. Like the slaves of old.

[@NipplWizard]

This. I cant get a raise but our company picknick is nothing more than giving customers a free steak dinner. 400 people RIGHT AFTER WORK from 7am to 9:30pm and ONE 30 minute BREAK. For the work day.

[@stevew8513]

"And a misguided entitlement to a workday neatly bookended." Wow, she has no idea how entitled she sounds, that employees should be like slaves and she wants total control over her underlings. She doesn't have a clue that she's the villain in this story, does she?

[@robbertslijkhuis5491]

I bet she would advocate the exact opposite when its her that has a boss like herself :P

[@bonniea.1941]

She is abusing her very limited power. 😬

[@DrDoomBloom]

She is completely oblivious to her role in this situation and it is comically heartbreaking.

[@Jose04537]

Every villain think they are the hero in their own story.

[@bonniea.1941]

@@Jose04537 So true and so sad!

[@stevetaylor2445]

The truth be told,it is so difficult to get someone who is competent at their job that seldom ever would they be promoted because they are so hard to replace.

[@Lugeix]

I had many employers insist I answer the phone on the second ring no matter the time. My argument, ITS MY PHONE on MY TIME. MBAs think they own the employee

[@rlt422]

When an employer sees you are willing to take on extra work while not being properly paid for it, they WILL NEVER reward you with anything but more work with out extra pay, because that's the bar YOU set for them. Corporations want slaves and would pay you nothing if they could get away with it. They demand 110% or more loyalty while treating employees as a replaceable number on a spread sheet. The ONLY people who care if you live or die at a corporation are MAYBE your co-workers and your immediate boss. Above that... you are a number who could drop dead at work and the ONLY irritation would be the extra paperwork you caused them by dyeing at your desk.

[@Arldavis]

and my job actually takes out life insurance on their employees. If i die, they aren't as inconvenienced by that $30k their insurance gives them.......

[@HazyTown01]

When I start having to do too much, I set my new price with my employer. If they accept, I stay. If they don't, I start looking around. Luckily, right now jobs are a dime a dozen, and folks can't find workers, so I got some leverage.

[@mathewdsouza3616]

While I know what you are trying to say, be careful when using the word "always" and "never" as they imply a "near 100%" chance/frequency. In all my jobs I worked at in the past, I have been promoted and paid more for working longer hours; so your statement definitely isn't true even 1% of the time in my case. In the company I work for currently our employees do a lot of overtime hours and get paid handsomely for it. In most cases they prefer doing OT and finishing quicker than dragging the job/task longer because they make 50% more money per hour. ( Ex. two 60 hour weeks vs three 40 hour weeks)

[@Meowface.]

Do the extra work for a few months then ask for a raise Just refusing to do it until you get a raise first doesn’t benefit your negotiating position I’ve always taken on extra and asked for raises a couple times a year I get it, or I stop doin anything beyond my regular work duties If the employer isn’t willing to pay me more for exceptional work output then I quit and find an employer who does This is why I don’t like unions, no reward for being better than everyone else

[@charlieinabox1164]

I like to think Ive built my skillset and deserve the job I have in my corporate setting but deep down it’s because Im like-able and ready to help. You will not be rewarded for your hard work and instead rewarded by those you please. I will admit though that like the message in this video, I don't respond or work before or after working hours but often start those monday meeting with “just getting caught up in emails over the weekend, soo busy” perception is key.

[@libralemow6128]

You earned the like bro. Love the content, keep it up!