I FIXED Jeep's ANNOYING Stop Start Warning FOR GOOD!

[@michaelsyoutubechannel5857]

Add me to the club. I replaced my aux battery last weekend and the new one must have not been fully charged because both batteries were dead when I went to start it 6 days later. I couldn't even jump start it. I also tried jump starting it using the first post under fuse box, which supposedly jump starts the aux battery, but the engine sputtered and died as soon as I removed the jump start cables. So thanks to this video, I removed FUSE 42 and the negative aux cable and it worked like a charm. It jump started right up and kept running after removing jump start cables. It appears the main battery is now able to recharge as it restarted after running for only a few minutes. This video was a lifesaver. Thank you for posting and for the helpful comments below.

[@otroverland]

Glad it was helpful.

[@ronm7781]

The batteries are wired in parallel. It makes no sense to have them be different sizes. The removal of the aux batter in a parallel circuit has no effect on the main battery. I am guessing that the aux batt was bad and it drained the main which is why you needed to get it jumped. I think if you had removed the ess fuse it might have jumped properly. Glad you are sorted

[@jedyoung8848]

So I decided to give it a shot, got a 2018 JLU and like everyone else was saying it's the other cable that needed to be removed. So I tried that at first, started the Jeep, and light and warning still came on. So I disconnected the other cable and tried it, but got nothing at all, reconnected the first one and low and behold the warning light doesn't come on now! Thank you!

[@otroverland]

Glad it worked!

[@briandell3852]

Ran into this same issue while playing in Colorado. I pulled the neg cable, pulled the fuse and no more issues. After we got back, i pulled the passenger tire an wheel well cover and removed the battery completely, also taped up all the cables. No issues since then and it been 5 months.

[@bradymurphy5735]

The Auto Start/Stop dash light came on in my 2022 JL with under 10,000 miles. This simple workaround handled it perfectly!

[@otroverland]

Awesome! Glad it helped.

[@marlinelmagico7B]

It worked on my 2020 JL! That said, it was with the end that you taped not the one that was reconnected back to the battery. Thanks OTR Overland.

[@otroverland]

Glad it was helpful.

[@TraceyLeaver-Williams]

Hubby’s JT just experienced this and following your simple instructions I was able to fix in less than 10 minutes! Easy peasy! Thanks 😊

[@otroverland]

That's awesome. Glad it was helpful. Thanks!

[@LaceySpencer-l4k]

Best video! No windbags just talking!!!

[@otroverland]

Thanks! Much appreciated.

[@paulfindude8743]

Great video. Informative, quick and to the point. Not like these other fools who make a 50 min video on how to add windshield fluid. Thank you brotha.

[@otroverland]

Thanks. Much appreciated.

[@sweetwillywine5920]

Thank you for the video!!! You would think there should be a recall on this no???!!!

[@ronaldrice1781]

What you did not say is that ESS is still going to work. Just not off of your accessory battery. It will run off of main battery

[@larryb7047]

My experience: Got in, attempted to start my 2021 JT Mojave, it would not start, nor turnover, no clicking, just some extra dash lights (check engine, and collision avoidance - associated with ACC system). Problem was a dead (10.5V) battery, and the blessing was that it was in my driveway & I wasn't stranded somewhere less safe, thanks to my wife's car as a backup. And, as with any unknown mechanical or "how to" issue, I came to KZbin. What did we ever do before YT? LOL! So, apparently my AUX battery died, and eventually my main battery was taken down by the AUX. No warning. I hadn't turned on my Start/Stop switch lately, and that would've been a clue if I had noticed it not working. The batteries would've been covered by the 3/36 warranty, but I was at 37K when they died. How convenient, Mopar! So, I pulled the F42 fuse, tied off the same ground cable as illustrated in this video, installed a new main battery, and everything is back to normal, except I no longer have an operational ESS system. I'll eventually yank out the dead AUX battery, but good to go for now. Thanks!

[@otroverland]

Glad the video was helpful. Thanks!

[@carpathia3882]

This just happened to me today. So what functionality did we lose? Is it just the auto start stop? I mean, I imagine the push to start still works correct?

[@gs98999]

@@carpathia3882auto stop start should still work off the main battery now. No functionality is lost.

[@kevino.4233]

2018 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport V6 Followed the steps and no more A-light! Only issue I ran into was my terminal cables were switched compared to your video, but I just had to swap the terminal cables around and it worked out just fine. Thank you so much for a great video!

[@otroverland]

You're welcome. Glad it worked out for you. I've heard depending on make and model, you may have to swap the negative cables. Working on a way to update the video to mention that.

[@dmennenoh]

21 and newer the aux cable is the one with the tab, and extra post, that you ended up taking off. Prior years it was the easier, first one, you removed. Either way it should be the smaller of the two although I find it hard to tell. I just did this today on my 21 JLU.

[@otroverland]

Thanks for the info. I've had people mention they had to switch it. I updated the description a while back to let people know, but I didn't know for sure the years. Thanks for that.

[@kelliestravels]

Best Explanation yet. My Rubicon has only one battery with the 2.0 Turbo.

[@otroverland]

Thanks.

[@davidjohnson9641]

I have a 2019 Wrangler unlimited Sierra package and has a 2.0 turbo in it. I do not have the extra wire on my negative side of my battery. I do not have the number 42 fuse also in my fuse box so do I have two batteries or not?

[@glennhaggis]

Best, straightforward video that doesn't waste our time. THANKS!

[@otroverland]

Thanks!

[@jadef6784]

Wow! You are the man! I’m having the exact same issue, with my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (37000 mi). I Just replaced my main battery yesterday ($275) and then noticed the A with the circle and exclamation point! I’m going to try this, first thing tomorrow morning! Bye F 42! Aloha!

[@SH4D3TR33]

Awesome! I wondered if I could remove/disconnect the aux batt and still have everything work fine. Thanks for this!

[@otroverland]

You got it! Glad you found it helpful.

[@glenndlr2935]

Just did it last weekend. Saved money again.

[@otroverland]

Awesome! Glad the video was helpful.

[@_jeep392]

Great Video 👍 Great Info 👍 Straight to the point. I'm doing this today !!

[@otroverland]

Thanks!

[@garyludwig2770]

On my 2020 gladiator it's the other terminal not the one you taped up, for some reason.

[@otroverland]

I found out it varies by make and model.

[@Officialmatthewreed]

Omg yes it’s the other one not the one he tapped!!!! I just said this and so far I only got one warning just patiently waiting to see how this plays out pray for me guys!!!!! Oh and for my 2020 Gladiator!

[@Officialmatthewreed]

@@otroverlandmines came on again please help me!!!😢😢😢😢

[@stefankruger1057]

2019 JL. Pulled the fuse and the cable - and everything was dead. Put the cable back and fuse - everything was as it was with the warning light back on. Pulled just the fuse and no more warning light. Seems on some models the Aux battery handles a little something extra and not just the start stop. On others it seems it just the start stop. Removing the fuse only fixed the error message. So I am happy.

[@otroverland]

You can try swapping the negative battery cables you disconnect. I've learned it varies based on make and model.

[@stefankruger1057]

@@otroverland I that a few days ago, forgot to do an update here. Yea- so for mine it was the other cable that connects to the Aux Battery. I also disabled the stop start using the pin under the hood trick.

[@DrivinwithJoe]

108*? Wow. That’s crazy. Great video. Thank you.

[@otroverland]

Yeah. That's just a normal Tuesday in Arizona in the summer. 😁

[@capt.stubing5604]

I went in through the fuse box and removed the aux battery on my 2020 JTR. Connected its hot lead to the main battery positive and wrapped up the negative lead from the aux battery. Start stop works fine but can be turned off by the dash button. Didn’t want to carry a dead battery around forever.

[@otroverland]

Yeah. At some point I'll go in and pull the old aux battery

[@michaelguittar8127]

I just tried this on my 2020 Gladiator, and nothing would power on when I uses the cable you described, but keeping the cable on the battery that you tapped allowed the car to power on. Also, I pulled the correct fuse but the auto start stop still worked

[@otroverland]

Try swapping the negative battery cable. Depending on year and model, it can differ. So try swapping them. It should work.

[@davideverett439]

First off thank you for a great to the point video! Having a bit of trouble with my 2020 JL also. Aux battery is removed, positive cables ran to main battery. Pulled fuse 42, removed both positive and negative cables (for aux battery) from main battery and start stop is still active. Tried swapping out the negative cable and had no power at all. As mentioned earlier on my 2020 the main cable is the one with the extra stud and nut that was taped up in your video.

[@jadef6784]

Woooohooooo! Thank you so much! 😆🙏🏼The answer to my headache! Currently having, this exact issue, with my 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (37000 mi) I already, installed a new main battery yesterday ($275) and having the A with the circle and exclamation point 😢notification! I’m doing this , first thing , tomorrow morning! 🥳🙌🏼💟you are the man! 🐶🤙🏽 bye 👋🏼 F42!😂🤣

[@mike887]

Awesome vid and instructions! We hate stop/start for various reasons everyone else does, and as soon as I get home this will be done! Thanks OTR

[@otroverland]

Thanks! Much appreciated. I mentioned this in the description, but depending on make and model, you my have to swap which negative terminal to disconnect. Try it the way I did in the video. If the Jeep won't start, just swap the negative terminals and you should be good to go.

[@robertzimmerman3980]

Swap the negative cables to where?

[@rdbrown1694]

Thank you for the information and the video. I am now encountering similar problems with my 2019 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I will be trying this sometime today or tomorrow.

[@otroverland]

Good luck!

[@mackies9151]

Found this video today after my 2021 wouldn't start. Doing this tomorrow hopefully the main battery is still good since jeep ony has 18,000 miles. It ran all day and restarted after I jumped it.

[@rheopr]

Thanks for de vid. Mine is a 2020 jl and I had ti connect the other cable and tape up the one without the terminal screw.

[@TheRR4LIFE]

Me too

[@otroverland]

Yeah. I've heard a number of people say that. I first tried the other cable and it didn't work, so I switched and that's what worked for me. I think it varies based on model and year.

[@otroverland]

I updated the video and added a note to let people know they might have to try the other cable. Thanks again for the feedback

[@Dr_Reason]

It works nice with a stick. Pull up to a light in neutral, let out the clutch. When you are ready to go press the clutch, shift into gear and go.

[@otroverland]

Good tip!

[@joseescobar5703]

Got a 2019 JL and the A sign appear like one month ago but yesterday my main battery was dead and I charged it and I did this but I didn’t function so I connected the other cable the one you tape up and it started but my amp it’s at 13.8

[@otroverland]

Thanks for the update. I've heard from a few other people that they had to connect the other cable. I added a note to the video.

[@tomasarrey2089]

Thank you for helping me out. This is Thomas

[@otroverland]

Happy to help

[@dogzdad123]

I have a 2019 Wrangler Rubicon with the original aux battery. Yeah, it's long-in -the-tooth and is having issues. The process of replacing it shows how poorly FCA put thought on location for easier access. I'm going to try to bypass that battery per your instructions. Otherwise, it's going to be a chore either removing the fender guard or going-in from the engine compartment (and tearing apart the fuse box). Either option... I don't look forward too. Thanks for your handy hack!!!

[@otroverland]

Thanks! Take note. Depending on Model and Year, you may need to swap which negative cable you reconnect. Try it the way I've done in the video. If the Jeep won't start, simply swap the negative battery cable connected to the battery.

[@josephbustamante3984]

Good vid- straight to the point.... but, it didn't work for me. Still getting the stop/start warning light and message. Wondering if my Tazer Lite is somehow a problem. I use it to keep the S/S permanently disabled.

[@otroverland]

I've got the Tazer JL Mini and it works to disable the start stop. I'd check error codes and see if you can further troubleshoot it from there

[@jackiebeene9609]

So, after watching this, I decoded to do the same to my 2021 Mohave. 1) Pulled F42 fuse and 2) removed the ground as you have done. The auto stop-start is now disabled, however, I still get the warning that the auto stop-start function is not working and then get the yellow A. I saw where some have said to remove a plug that connects to the ground. That made no difference either. I've watched this and another similar video multiple times to see if I am missing something. Checked and rechecked that I pulled the correct fuse.

[@otroverland]

Hmm. I'm not sure if the Mojaves are different. I do know they have a number of parts that are not compatible with aftermarket parts for other Gladiators, so this may be the same thing. Honestly not sure. Try connecting the other ground and see if that works. That has worked for a number of people.

[@chokabardas]

Go to auto zone if you don’t have a tazer and have them clear your DTCs. I had to reset it on my jt but I have a tazer so I just did it from the dash.

[@jackiebeene9609]

@@chokabardas I have a scanner. No codes.

[@chokabardas]

I didn’t have any codes either I just selected clear anyways and restarted the Jeep and it went away. Might be different on the tazers

[@jackiebeene9609]

@@chokabardas Thanks for the tip. I will try this. I have the bypass labels and everything else.

[@Ibrahim99990]

just did it, it works with the other cable not the one you used. woking fine no error sign till now thanks.

[@rheopr]

Thank you for tour comment I was about to give up.

[@Ibrahim99990]

@@rheopr you're welcome, start/stop and remote start not working. i ended up removing the small battery and connecting the positive to main battery, tape up negative and remove F42.

[@Huntermaass712]

@@Ibrahim99990 does your remote start still work?

[@Ibrahim99990]

@@Huntermaass712 yes, when i pulled out F42

[@otroverland]

Thanks for the feedback. I added a note to the video letting people know they might have to try the other cable.

[@virgilsmith5792]

If you have to go back to the dealer and connect it back..would the chances be high that the aux battery is dead?

[@otroverland]

I think it depends on how fast people do the bypass and how long the aux battery sits.

[@tonycrispino4493]

Ultimately you want to pull the old Aux battery out along with the unnecessary wiring left behind. But this fix saves hundreds of dollars. There are some models where the Aux/Main battery leads are reversed, if you have any savvy with a voltage meter you can find it in seconds. But if it didn't work, try the other lead. That should do it. You effectively can save quite a bit of repair costs into the future with this simple hack. Both of my Jeeps are bypassed (2021 JT, and a 2022 JL). All Stop/Start or Run/Stop have the same flaw - the batteries are only as good as the weakest battery in the chain and you typically have to replace both by recommendation of Stellantis. $$$$. I don't think any of the manufacturers feel that this feature is a best design, but they get relief from the feds doing it. Which reveals why your congress is not the best technical advisor on your cars. Great, simple video. I have had zero issues with this bypass, which is less than I had before it..

[@otroverland]

Thanks for the info and feedback. Really appreciate it.

[@jimmc2990]

Thanks for the great video! I always punch the A button on the dash to disable the start/stop. If I remove the fuse and bypass the battery without using a a taser or other bypass module, what will happen? My guess is the start/stop won’t click on at idle and I won’t need to press the button to disable it? I’m just concerned that it will cause some other electrical issue in the jeep. Thanks!

[@jimmc2990]

@@egman5225 ah so the auto start/stop still kicks in but won’t run off the aux battery. Got it. Thank you!

[@derekohio9871]

I just disconnected the wiring harness on the switch under the hood. Put electrical tape over light on dash.

[@marcelmed4574]

Great video, that addresses how to disable but what causes the issue. Is it a a weak start stop battery.

[@otroverland]

Yes. I think it's just the fact that Jeep decided to use what's basically a motorcycle battery to do all the heavy lifting for starting the vehicle. I honestly don't get it. If you've had this warning light come on, address it sooner rather than later. The aux battery charges off the main and if the aux is on its way out, it'll keep trying to charge and drain the main to the point of damaging it too. I had to replace my main about a month after making this video.

[@PBMayor2]

Wish I had watched yours first.

[@otroverland]

Good luck. I hope you get it fixed.

[@prestigevending15]

Did this and light still comes on! When I did the bypass I changed out the main battery to be safe and till get the darn warning light! Made sure it was the right negative lead and fuse. Not sure why the warning comes on but least I know main battery is new and charging.

[@otroverland]

Maybe try going to AutoZone and have them check the codes and possibly clear it.

[@johnsilver7150]

I too have a 21 Gladiator same plain end neg cable removed F42 10amp fuse . Now my ESS auto start works again without F42 and without ground cable Must be a ghost under my hood.

[@otroverland]

If you get a Tazer Mini it'll definitely disable it

[@shanec.7105]

Mine is 2018 JL. Pulled the fuse and battery cable. The dash light is still lit. did I pull the wrong cable?

[@otroverland]

It varies by make and model. Try swapping the negative cables

[@oscarvelasquez4740]

Just did this on my 2021 jeep JT life saver!

[@otroverland]

Awesome! Glad I could help.

[@Slingerland61]

Great, easy to follow DIY that will come in handy for most Jeep Wrangler owners. THANKS!!! but, sheesh! 108º?!!! A bit warm, eh?

[@otroverland]

LOL. Right!? Welcome to Arizona.

[@DenverMom-c9j]

Great video and instructions. I have a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport and performed the procedure. I drove the vehicle for a couple of hours and the ESS engaged when I came to a stop. Am I missing something. I have 3 other JL's and am going to perform the same procedure and see what happens.

[@otroverland]

I believe it works for some. You may have to get a Tazer Mini. That will disable it

[@banjoshad]

Did you make any adjustments to fit the larger lug hole over the smaller bolt where the aux ground had been?

[@otroverland]

No. I didn't need to make modifications.

[@E-GEEZ]

What would happen if I just take out the fuse and leave the battery connected

[@otroverland]

Honestly, not 100% sure, but I think you run the risk of the aux battery damaging your main battery. If the aux battery starts to die, it'll leach power from the main. I've heard of many instances where people have had to replace both when the aux battery was the cause. So I'd suggest just playing it safe and disconnecting the aux battery cable.

[@krisrichards8041]

Good video . At a Jeep dealership, it does VOID any warranty.

[@otroverland]

Yup. That's why I suggest making it easy to reattach if you need to go to a dealer.

[@BrettBolanger]

I've got a 2020 Wrangler my start stop light is always on. Replaced the aux battery and light went out for a little while but came back on. Tried this and removed the correct fuse checked it more than twice. Removed the one cable it wouldn't start. Tried the other cable wouldn't start. I just have the light on I don't get the message stop/start unavailable. With fuse out no light but with the cable hooked up is it still drawing from the aux battery on normal start up?

[@otroverland]

If the cable is still hooked up, I'd assume it's still drawing for the aux battery on start up.

[@WhiteCedar544]

I have 21, tried as shown didn't work. Watched again tried reversing grounds, nothing , wouldn't start, like dead battery. Tried again connecting plain end cable, WORKED!, Will tape up cable with stud, and cross fingers it will continue to work.

[@otroverland]

Yeah. Depending on make and model, you may have switch them.

[@johnsilver7150]

I too have a 21 Gladiator same plain end neg cable removed F42 10amp fuse . Now my ESS auto start works again without F42 and without ground cable Must be a ghost under my hood.

[@richc8253]

i did everything exactly like you did in the video and yes, i pulled the correct fuse but it did not disable the start/stop feature. i have no clue how or why it's still working.

[@otroverland]

You may have to get a Tazer Mini to disable the auto start stop

[@angelramos615]

Thank you for the video, however I have the light on and I remove the fuse 42 and disconnected the terminal and the light still on I need help!!!

[@otroverland]

I'd say double check you pulled the correct fuse.

[@richc8253]

I did everything exactly as the video said and I'm still getting the light on the dashboard. I have a 2018 wrangler.

[@CurtisBowers]

I did this today and replaced the main battery as it tested bad also. I pulled fuse 42 and Jeep started right up, but my A/C went crazy. If would only blow hot air and I could not change the temperature settings. I replaced the fuse and everything worked, but the error icon came back on for auto-start.

[@otroverland]

I'd say make sure you pulled the correct fuse and confirm it's for the auto start stop. I haven't heard anyone else mention it, but it may not be fuse 42 on your make and model.

[@bw4524]

Just tried this. 2020 JL. Yes, it's the opposite cable as others have mentioned. Pulled Fuse 42 and the AC is frozen on LO temp and won't change.

[@latank871]

Thank you so much

[@otroverland]

Any time

[@antipro6537]

So the aux battery doesn’t power any outlets in the Jeep, only powers the ESS?

[@otroverland]

Yup. That's correct.

[@antipro6537]

@@otroverland That’s good to know, thanks :)

[@JeffPangle]

Thank you. Enjoy your videos.

[@otroverland]

Glad you like them!

[@johnmal5975]

Do you know if this would work on a 2022 Jeep Renegade? The jeep is only 2 years old and the stupid thing always says its charging. When it was working its beyond annoying. I can only imagine the engine damage caused by this stupid feature down the road and starter damage as well.

[@otroverland]

I'm honestly not sure on the Renegades. I tried to find spent that worked like the ZAutomotive Tazer JL Mini. But I didn't see anything for the 2022 Renegade.

[@luismendoza2522]

Hey man..I have a problem with my 20 jeep wrangler jl that it will crank for like a minute but it won't start..I replaced both batteries about 3 weeks ago and yesterday let me stranded at a busy intersection..I towed it back home and is still cranking but not starting..it only has 30000 miles on it ...any suggestions will be greatly appreciated..thanks for all your help

[@otroverland]

If it's cranking, but won't start, it's probably a fuel issue. Not getting enough gas. Make sure you don't have a clogged injector. Also, if its getting some gas and you crank it that long, it'll flood the engine and also won't start. Basically it's gonna be gas, air, and or spark. Check your plugs, air filter, and injectors.

[@MrTurbo64]

Check fuel pump relay. Might be the k02, depending on model. Check your diagram.

[@levichamberlain3843]

fyi for anyone with a 2018-20 JL the cables are reversed. You remove the smaller cable on top. Had to figure this out the hard way.

[@otroverland]

Yeah. I added that note to the description and several comments. I wish I could add it to the video, but there's no good way to do that that I'm aware of.

[@IndermohansinghKochhar]

I did it last evening & there is no error sign on my speedometer for auxiliary battery. Thank you But the msg comes up, auxiliaries not working battery charging, is it ok?

[@nickgulotta7516]

Does anyone know what is all connected to the aux battery?

[@otroverland]

I believe it just used for start/stop

[@timcapuchino3563]

Thank you for the simple explanation I'm thinking about this but I'm very cautious I know it's been 9 months since you've made this video how's everything working out so far did you have to put a larger amperage battery in just to make up for the auxiliary battery?

[@otroverland]

I didn't catch it in time. The aux battery leeched power from my main battery and dropped the voltage on the main too low. So I did have to replace my main. Since then its been fine without the aux battery. And I just got the Ecoflow 800W charger which pulls power from the main. It's all been working great.

[@timcapuchino3563]

@@otroverland why did Jeep mess with a good system?

[@JeffPangle]

If you by pass the aux battery do you lose the remote start??TIA

[@otroverland]

The remote start still works just fine without the aux battery.

[@julioricardo372]

I take the fuse f42 out, and the black cable still has the light on the dashboard

[@otroverland]

I'd suggest checking your main battery then. If the aux battery goes or is on its way out, it can take out the main battery as well.

[@KathyH-z8o]

I did this on my manual 2021 Wrangler JL and now for some reason the start stop works perfectly. I have no idea what I did wrong, I took out the fuse and taped up the connector...Maybe removed the wrong fuse?

[@otroverland]

I honestly had to look up and see the manuals had the start/stop. I truly thought you were pulling my leg. :) I would definitely check to make sure you pulled the correct fuse. I've learned it does vary by model year a bit. You may also need something like a Tazer JL Mini to permanently disable the auto start/stop.

[@Diznkat]

Double-checked and had the correct fuse. Today, it wouldn't start, said it couldn't find the key fob. So I put the fuse back in and connected the cable back to the battery.

[@joshua511]

I always feel like I"m going to randomly electrocute myself when disconnecting battery cables.

[@otroverland]

Yeah. I hear ya, but it's easy to safely handle them so nothing shocking happens. 😁

[@toolstechandtoys5910]

So I did this and the start stop is still active. Does this just bypass the aux battery to save my main battery? But I still have to push the button every time I start the car. Or should this just turn off the start stop feature all together? I have a 2022 gladiator rubicon.

[@otroverland]

My understanding is that pulling the fuse disabled the start/stop. But I've heard other people mention what you're seeing. I've got a Taser, so I can't really test it beyond what others have said.

[@toolstechandtoys5910]

@@otroverland yeah, I’m gonna have to get the tazer or the ss eliminator

[@IndermohansinghKochhar]

I did it last evening & there is no error sign on my speedometer for auxiliary battery. Thank you But the msg comes up, auxiliaries not working battery charging, is it ok? 4:34

[@oxouk]

I have the Taser mini installed on my 21 Rubicon. I just replaced both batteries and now I have the service start stop message. Any ideas why. Thanks in Advance.

[@larshamilton40]

same here, replaced both battteries in Nov, this morning the 'aux not available' popped up on the startup screen again..taking it to my local 4x4 shop next week for a diagnostic test. Not taking it to the dealership, they are worthless and charge way to much..mechanic at the shop recommended NOT disconnecting the aux battery/removing fuses, said it would lead to other issues.. i thought the tazer would have solved / prevented this issue...?

[@oxouk]

@@larshamilton40 I did some research on the taser website. It states to do “full reboot”, then complete two lock out cycles. If you have a manual and upped tire size in the taser, you have to perform a 30 second drive in 6th gear. The instructions are more detailed obviously. I’ll try it this weekend. I’m with you on not disconnecting fuses, battery etc… I want everything to be right.

[@otroverland]

Yup. I was going to suggest doing the full reboot sequence. It's takes a hot minute to complete, but usually fixes the issue.

[@oxouk]

Ok so I fixed it. I got the start stop warning after changing both batteries. Turns out, all I had to do was go through the Taser mini menu and clear all my DTC codes, then full reboot. No more start stop service message.

[@williamwalsh3882]

Great video, thank you. Curious what year is your Gladiator? I have a 2020, unsure which negative to tape off.

[@otroverland]

Mine is a 2021. Try one. If it won't start, then swap to the other. That's what I had to do.

[@williamwalsh3882]

@@otroverland , just closing the loop. For a 2020, the smaller of the two negative cables worked like a charm. Thanks again. Although not necessary, next step is a TaZer mini to finish the cosmetics (lit button on all the time) along with other great benefits. Thanks again.

[@23ecoffey]

So this worked for me. The light went away and everything seemed to work fine and then a couple days later the error message came back on. How is that even possible? Does it matter? I'm so confused now

[@otroverland]

Are you running a Tazer? If so , try a full reboot sequence.

[@23ecoffey]

@@otroverland no

[@garyzhu5714]

can this be done without the taser? my batteries just died after ESS having issues, so I'm hoping I can just pull out f42 and re-attach those black cables? Then replace main battery and be good to go?

[@otroverland]

Yes . It should work. And depending on make and model, you may have to swap which negative cable to pull. Try it the way I did it in the video.If the Jeep won't start, swap the negative battery cables. Also, if the aux battery has been on its way out, it'll pull power from the main battery and shorten its life too. So I'd say give this a try and see. It's only takes a couple of minutes.

[@Bendero]

I did everything as in video but still see this notification on my dashboard. Jeep JL 2022 What to do else? Thanks😢

[@otroverland]

Maybe try having it scanned at AutoZone to get the error codes and clear any old codes

[@Bendero]

@@otroverland Today will visit this place in my area. thanks. will keep you update

[@fallguy747]

Thanks. Good vid

[@otroverland]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@sweetwillywine5920]

Hi, thank you for the video I took out the 42 fuse and I disconnected the correct wire from the battery but I’m still getting the warning light on the dashboard. Any thoughts? Thank you.

[@sweetwillywine5920]

And that is on a 2020 jeep Wrangler sport

[@otroverland]

Try swapping the negative cable. Some people have found that the cables are reversed on the ir make and model.

[@sweetwillywine5920]

Thanks. But I believe if it was the wrong cable the Jeep wouldn’t start 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@dmennenoh]

@@sweetwillywine5920 Correct. If you still get the light it's likely the aux battery has already killed the main. On a 2020 it's the first cable he removed, on 21 and later it's the on with the tab and extra post.

[@sweetwillywine5920]

I found out you have to disconnect the main battery terminal also for 10 minutes or so then hooked it back up and no light on dashboard. Or A button 👍

[@roymoon1]

Why do you have to remove the neg wire? The aux battery only has two wires. Pulling one removes it from the circuit.

[@otroverland]

The negative wire to the aux battery is easier to access. Otherwise, you might as well just remove the aux battery entirely.

[@roymoon1]

Viking Off-road just gave some new info about the need for the aux battery (running fan at stop light). I posted back with precautionary info. The whole thing is starting to make sense now. @@otroverland

[@estradapalma9822]

A silly question, but what is the auxiliary battery negative cable bc I ‘ve seen other videos where people disconnect a different from yours?

[@otroverland]

There are 2 negative battery cables. One that connects to the main battery negative terminal and one that connects the aux battery negative to the main battery negative terminal. Depending on make, model, and year of the Jeep,you may have to swap which one you disconnect. The first time I tried this, I disconnected the other cable and my Jeep wouldn't start, so I swapped and disconnected the other and it worked.

[@joemama7435]

Does this fix affect the Remote Start on my key fob?

[@otroverland]

No. Not at all. I use the remote start all the time.

[@MegaChevy52]

Does this work on2019 durango

[@otroverland]

I honestly don't know. It's an easy thing to try. You'll have to see what fuse to pull.

[@desertadventures4221]

I feel your pain... good video

[@otroverland]

Thanks!

[@hakenkreuz7076]

The ESS still happens, so remember to push the ESS OFF button before driving.

[@otroverland]

Yup. Thanks for the heads up. I've got the Tazer JL Mini so it's always disabled.

[@gibson5056]

if you leave the positive cable connected to the aux battery can it still draw your main battery down?

[@otroverland]

Yes. I believe so. I'd disconnect it to be safe. If the aux battery keeps drawing down power on the main, it'll reduce the lifespan of the main.

[@Larbr000]

Yeah, but the charging system is set up to also charge the aux battery. I've watched my voltage and when it charges etc. Is it maybe better to leave the aux battery in since it's in parallel?

[@Larbr000]

I'm saying it could possibly overcharge the normal battery if the aux is gone.

[@otroverland]

I'd say do what you think is best, but I've never heard of anyone having any issues removing the aux battery. I've been running it without the aux for 11 months now with no issues. If it's in parallel, then I don't think there's a concern of overcharge. It would just be less draw on the alternator.

[@iheartme1984]

Question maybe u can help me. My auxiliary battery went out so I changed it a few days the later the light came on so I change the main battery. The light still on. Do you think it’s OK for me to do what you did in this video just to get the light to go off?

[@otroverland]

I'd suggest if you replaced both and still have the warning light on to get it looked at. I'd say maybe it's still hanging onto to error code, but the time you took to replace the main battery should have cleared that code. You can go to an AutoZone and they will run a free diagnostic. So at a minimum, you can get the error codes it's throwing.

[@edzaleski1182]

I have a 2020 Jeep Wrangler Sport. I tried your fix and it just plain don't work. I've switched the both cables and I know I've disconnected the right one and I know I pulled the right fuse and it still don't work. Too bad because it sounds like a great fix and there are probably 10 more KZbin videos describing the same one

[@otroverland]

Sorry it didn't work for you.

[@DIMEDAMAGE]

have a 2018 jl wrangler.did exactly like in this video.but had no power when i did it

[@otroverland]

Try swapping the negative battery cables.

[@garyamatthews1]

DOES NOT WORK WITH 2023 GLADIATOR RUBICON ECO DIESEL! Gas models might work?

[@otroverland]

What happened? I know that depending on year and model, you may have to swap which negative cable you disconnect.

[@katbot2190]

Would that work on a 2018 JL? I had to replace my aux battery like 2 years ago. It's starting to tell me my something or other is shut down and the battery is charging.

[@otroverland]

It should work on a 2018. I've just started getting warning saying Aux switches temporarily disabled. After some research it looks like my main battery needs to be replaced.

[@michaellincoln1700]

Just tried this and had no power. I️ did put everything back the way it was but did leave the fuse out. Now the light is gone but wondering if that’s okay?

[@otroverland]

Try connecting the other negative cable. A number of people have said they had to connect the other cable to get it to work for them.

[@michaellincoln1700]

@@otroverland that seem to do the trick thank you. Do I still have to make sure I turn off the auto start when I start the truck still?

[@otroverland]

@@michaellincoln1700Nope. You shouldn't have to worry about the switch anymore. Removing the negative battery cable comping from the aux battery and pulling the fuse disables the auto start/stop. The switch will still turn on/off on your dash, but it won't do anything.

[@michaellincoln1700]

@@otroverland thanks so much for the help!

[@littlejoka]

I unhooked everything but when I go connect just the main it doesn’t turn on at all please advice

[@otroverland]

Swap the negative battery cables. It varies based on make and model. If it wont start, just swap the negative cables and it should work.

[@littlejoka]

@@otroverland I did but it seems like it doesn’t get any power with any

[@garyzhu5714]

@@littlejoka maybe your main battery has been drained/fried already by the aux

[@littlejoka]

@@garyzhu5714 yeah it was I had to replace the whole main battery but I was able to disconnect the aux now thank you.

[@wisky4me]

So after all would the start stop function work again or that is gonna deactivate it ?

[@otroverland]

I don't think it will disable the start stop function. I believe you need something like the Tazer Mini to do that. This video is if you've got the warning light.

[@tonyd197265]

I have a 2021 gladiator. Did not work. Warning light still came on.

[@otroverland]

Check your main battery

[@TimAugustyniak]

Did you ever figure it out? Same thing happened to me, light is still on. I have a tazer so the start stop is disabled, but I recently started getting the error message at startup.

[@nickbeccia9124]

Is it really 108 degrees outside when you start up your jeep or is your thermometer way off like mine

[@otroverland]

Yeah. It really is 108. That's just a normal summer day in Arizona I'm afraid.

[@leesommer5871]

What year is this JL? They supposedly reversed these terminals but not sure what year you are working on.

[@otroverland]

Mine is a 2021.

[@timdecker9808]

Will the stop start still work even if the fuse is pulled and the negative cable is removed

[@otroverland]

No, the start/stop won't work after you pull the fuse and negative battery terminal.

[@adean1742]

Please please help 😢. I did everything exactly same as video. The warning light is gone. Even tho I took of the 42 one. Stop/start is still working 😢😢 did I do something wrong? Mine is 2021 with 2.0. Help me 😢😢😢😢😢

[@otroverland]

You may need something like a Tazer JL Mini to disable the start/stop. The Tazer has a ton of other great features. Totally worth it.

[@adean1742]

@@otroverland Thanks for the answer. As long as I didn’t do stupid thing. I don’t mind to keep it like this. Am I safe? 🥲

[@otroverland]

Yeah. You're definitely safe.

[@adean1742]

@@otroverland thank you so much 🥲. I was worried about it. And also thanks for the video I hope I can keep my battery longer (2 years driving this car but I already had to change the battery😭)

[@TimAugustyniak]

I just did this and the auto start/stop message still comes on, along with the A on the dash. Any suggestions? 2018 Sport. I noticed someone mentioned they had to switch the black terminal and use the other one than you did in the video. I tried this but the lights are still on.

[@otroverland]

Hmm. I was going to suggest swapping the negative battery cables too. It might be that the aux battery took down your main. That can happen

[@TimAugustyniak]

@@otroverlandI have a Tazer JL and have the start/stop disabled. I was just trying to get the error message to go away, which I never had before. I ended up clearing the DTC with the taser and it went away.

[@BuffHippie]

For some reason my jeep wouldn’t start after doing this. When I put the fuse back in and then put the aux battery back on everything worked… like the auto stop/start resumed working and hadn’t for about a month

[@otroverland]

Try swapping the negative battery cables. Same thing happened on mine. Depending on make and model, you may have to swap them. If your aux battery is on its way out, it can damage your main battery and that's expensive to replace.

[@TheRR4LIFE]

OK so this is weird. I had the same issue on my gladiator. Pulled the F42 fuse and took off the negative cable post. What is strange is that in your video the terminal with the long post was taped up and put aside. I followed your video exactly and got NO power to my truck. I tried swapping the other cable and I have power and no indicator light.

[@otroverland]

I've heard a couple people say the same thing. I think it might vary based on model year. I actually first tried the other cable and it did what you experienced. So I switched it with the long post and that's what worked for me.

[@michaellincoln1700]

Just tried this and had no power. Put everything back and just left the fuse out. The light is gone now. Is that okay?

[@otroverland]

I updated the video and added a note to let people know they might have to try the other cable. Thanks again for the feedback.

[@dmennenoh]

You have a pre 2021 Gladiator is all.