I Found a Machine Gun: What Should I Do?

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There are thousands of machine guns currently in the National Firearms Act registry registered to people born before 1900. Think about that for a moment - every one of those owners is deceased, and those machine guns are still out there somewhere.
Periodically, the family of a deceased veteran will find a machine gun amongst there possessions. There is a straightforward process for passing a registered machine gun to a lawful heir, but it is dependent on the gun actually being legally registered. It is up to the family to locate the paperwork to prove that registration - or else contact the BATF to get a copy of it. Today I am discussing this situation with John Keene of the Morphy auction company. Sgt (retired) Keene is an expert of the NFA and this type of paperwork, and has helped many families through the process. This video is intended to help people in this situation understand how to deal with a gun which may or may not be registered.
John Keene can be contacted at [e-mail] .
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[@Randy-uq7jq]

The first rule of finding a machine gun: You did not find a machine gun.

[@gregb6469]

What the ATF doesn't know won't hurt you.

[@Backyardmech1]

The second rule is you did not find a machine gun

[@MoarteaLunii]

@@Backyardmech1 Third rule: You damn well better have fun.

[@Darth-Nihilus1]

What machine gun 🙃😉

[@Rudyelf1]

Exactly. I didn’t watch the video, you don’t need 28 minutes to say “just keep your mouth closed.”

[@rajjtheman1867]

>man finds ak47 >man watches this video >"they took all 3 guns" >man decides to keep his new SKS

[@unavailableusername9694]

@@3pack hes calling his akl an sks.

[@darkfoxbill9657]

@@unavailableusername9694 He's not just calling it an SKS. It identies as an SKS and we have to respect its new identity. No dead naming.

[@ray-al15]

Darkfox Bill I love how respectful you are. If it wants to be an SKS so be it, they shoot the same ammo anyway.

[@brazgazz]

@@ray-al15 no! AKs and SKS do not mingle :(

[@ray-al15]

BrazGaz Ahh, these opinions are what holding society down. Just because they have the same ammo doesn’t mean they shouldn’t mingle, I just disagree.

[@CKshouta]

You did not. It is forever lost in a tragic boating accident in 1986.

[@garrett3698]

So you would tell the FBI, haha.

[@oceanhouse8080]

Until the day freedom need's to be defended it will not be found!!!!!

[@NinjaFresh]

I was looking for this comment.

[@breakneckmilk9324]

The sea was angry that day

[@eldiablo7862]

Speaking of boating accidents.......I wish I knew where in New York Harbor a HK MP5 fell overboard back in 2006.......it brings tears to my eyes!

[@Halomanx540]

"The ATF is not out to get you." Now there's a lie if I ever heard one.

[@snipeefox]

They're not out to get you... Just your dog.

[@DeltaDanner]

snipeefox and your wife. and your son. and your best friend.

[@07thunderhawk]

Operation Wide Receiver, Operation Fast and Furious. Hmmmm, yep typical government corruption including the ATF.

[@endstatism9490]

@@DeltaDanner hide ya, wife, ya kids and hide ya husbands! they after EREYbody out hear!

[@endstatism9490]

@@07thunderhawk do as we say, not as we do. If I ever may run afoul of the ATF, I will 100% use the Fast and Furious defense! No one got charged! Also the State department is currently running AK-47s to the middle east and being sued by the Kalashnikov company.

[@SpyderMadeKaSog]

First rule about finding a machine gun: DON’T TALK ABOUT FINDING A MACHINE GUN.

[@jason127x99]

Dahhltunn I wondering how many undocumented ones are out there? It's should treated like illegal aliens. We need a safe space for undocumented machine guns!

[@33Luger]

A sanctuary city?

[@SpyderMadeKaSog]

jason127x99 I’ll take one for the team and open my gun safe to house any illegal alien machine guns

[@chucklotro8749]

fun fact in commiefornia soon you can't buy ammo for a weapon that isn't registered to you #noinfringementthere

[@LarryH54]

@@33Luger Maybe a sanctuary gun safe. ;)

[@johnsanchez3236]

I found a machine gun, what should I do? You didn’t find a machine gun, you were out fishing. I didn’t find a machine gun, I was out fishing.

[@RobinTheBot]

That's how you get in trouble.

[@hihu7200]

You fired that non extant machine gun. People found out. Cops arrest you. End of story. Obey the law.

[@yungblac8336]

@@hihu7200 no it's a man's duty to disobey laws he deems unjust

[@chemistryofquestionablequa6252]

@@hihu7200 no, you used an echo trigger in your AR.

[@TheLH86]

@@wetshoelace3338 no, that'd be why it's pyrrhic. You win the day but LOSE the war. Do you understand the words you're using? I don't think it means what you think it means....

[@michiganengineer8621]

Step one: Keep your mouth _SHUT_ about it. Step two: Contact a lawyer who _specializes_ in weapons related cases who _ALSO_ is familiar with NFA related trusts. Step three: Remember, you did _NOT_FIND_A_MACHINE_GUN!_

[@ericr4764]

Skip step2

[@seand.g423]

Step four: "thoughts and prayers" Step five: "CrIsIs aCtOrS!!!!!!!!!"

[@merchantjoker46]

id contact a lawyer right away they can handle all the legal shit for you and never have to worry about a dam thing

[@fredrickvontater5433]

Step 2 call Saul Goodman

[@bryanhawk6052]

@Robert Slackware lol

[@josephikrakowskiwithflextape]

The only thing i found is a reason to most certainly not call the ATF.

[@cyberhawk80]

Always Taxing Folk... the first to are a dead giveaway..

[@sonofadeadmeme]

Are ya still a spokes person for Flex Tape?

[@qoph1988]

Yeah, imagine being dumb enough to call those bastards on yourself. What you should do is chop it into tiny pieces (jk, bury it in a waterproof trunk for a rainy day) and never ever tell a soul

[@snipeefox]

"So we showed up and robbed them. Here's a receipt to show how we robbed you, and that you will not only receive no recompense, but you have no course of action."

[@wyomingptt]

And my guess is they're supposed to destroy them, but you know _someone_ kept it. Probably in the collection of a ATF agent right now.

[@anomie6788]

Machine Guns start around 10k and go up from there. Like finding a lot of money on the street and giving it to the police. You will never see that money again,

[@user-njyzcip]

@@anomie6788 *registered* machine guns start around 10k

[@manictiger]

@@user-njyzcip Unregistered ones start at 20k.

[@randomfamilyman4876]

Put it in the shed and try to stop giggling like a 5 yr old girl

[@eriksemelson409]

so true

[@jaybee2850]

@Optical Clarity seems to be creeping closer as the days pass.

[@comradeurod9805]

I hope the 2nd amendment doesn't get screwed with. I'm not even American but it seems to be ridiculous to fiddle laws that have been standing for I don't even know how long

[@chrisneedham5803]

Your comment made me laugh "a lot"

[@resistanceisfutile]

@@jaybee2850 No closer now than it ever has been. Repealing a constitutional amendment is not easy and very unlikely. All through the 8 years of the Obama presidency, people were complaining about how ATF was going to collect all of the civilian owned firearms and ammo in the U.S. Civilian firearm ownership increased year over year for all 8 years and the only thing that happened to ammo was that the price went up and availability went down as idiots started hoarding things like .22 LR (obviously a military grade cartridge needed to take on the gubment...). I remember shops limiting the amount of .22 LR that could be purchased per visit to one or two boxes, if they had anything at all. But keep on saying that the 2nd amendment will be repealed just any day now. That way, we can keep the run on sales going and all spend $650-800 for a marginally functional AKM variant from Century Arms instead of $400 and NRA can get a much bigger "tax" from Century. What a win!

[@debrawhite9998]

Repeat after me, "I DID NOT FIND A MACHINEGUN".

[@suppportguyone7302]

I DID NOT FIND A MACHINEGUN

[@scumroyalsgaming]

@@suppportguyone7302 I did not find a machine gun. Or did I?

[@Ojthemighty]

What machine gun?

[@naphackDT]

"So did you find anything interesting while cleaning out the attic?" "I DID NOT FIND A MACHINE GUN."

[@deltadetrix]

I DID NOT FIND A MACHINEGUN

[@myfavoritemartian1]

Same ATF story here: I owned a registered gun for 35 years. I sold it to a dealer. The dealer sold it right away and during that transfer, the ATF said:"There is NO reference to this gun in our records." SO the ATF took the gun and shut the Dealer down. The dealer called me and said: "Please tell me that you have your old paperwork?" "Yes" and sent him a photograph of it. Having the stamp number, the ATF "Found" the records, the transfer went through. Even though the ATF has had money given to them several times by Congress, their records are a MESS. (Or they do this with everyone, trying to depopulate the NFA list.

[@jayrunner6533]

Things like this happens because of the laws preventing a national gun registry. Their database if digital has to be "non-searchable" so this means they cannot use a database management system where you can search by keywords, dates, or any other field other than the index number of the dealer. Then they have to manually look through all the photos and documents under the index number to find the correct firearm. Makes alot of mistakes like the one you're talking about a relatively common thing.

[@myfavoritemartian1]

@@jayrunner6533 BUT the NFA list like this one, IS searchable. My name, the Serial number were all it took. The NFA Database has been searchable from day one. They don't do proper maintenance on it or timely entry of new transfers. THEY ARE INEPT!

[@jayrunner6533]

@@myfavoritemartian1 Damn thats rough, but I guess thats bureaucracy for ya. Feels like it won't ever change.

[@frankpienkosky5688]

the last time an ATF agent paid me a visit she recorded the serial #'s of all the NFA guns...not sure if that was a good thing or a bad thing....@@myfavoritemartian1

[@tyrian_baal]

@@jayrunner6533 Exactly, which is why you don't want the government having a registry on your rights

[@Username18981]

Penalty for possession of an ilegal machine gun - $250000 fine - 10 years in jail - execution of family dog

[@CR3W1SH03S]

And your wife... and your son... and the cats.

[@Kami3Kaze]

I wonder would anyone actually send the ATF a picture of an presumably legal machine gun

[@ajamcan7264]

Just stand in the doorway and fucking full auto their rear ends

[@thespiritof76..]

aHH'hemm... Public execution

[@bersercker]

​@@thespiritof76.. can someone explain to me this dog execution joke?

[@possumpopper89]

A buddy of mine inherited a legal machine gun years ago and had his dad’s paperwork and tax stamp. The ATF had lost the original paperwork and attempted to seize his gun even though he had proper paperwork. He had to hire a lawyer and fight with them in court to retain possession of the weapon.

[@Chris-yy5pj]

Did he????

[@travistucker7317]

Also curious

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

Should have used it on them instead

[@cdawson198600]

Some would’ve done the right thing an used it on them

[@nickedgeworth1]

This seems like a much more likely scenario than saying the ATF will work with you if you're honest with them...

[@streifitm3908]

The first thing to do after you called the atf is to put body armor on your dog

[@streifitm3908]

@jack bauer almost forgot it

[@bigpat_4295]

What happened to which dog and Why was the atf involved

[@madsdarre356]

@@bigpat_4295 lol the ATF training manual starts off with "first take out the dog, then proceed to put owner of dog in prison"

[@bigpat_4295]

@@madsdarre356 for real?

[@madsdarre356]

@@bigpat_4295 i Mean one would have to look at what the ATF does, and it would appear its a trend with the ATF to put 2 in the dog

[@fenrirhelvetr7479]

Step 1: You did not find a machine gun Step 2: Register as an FFL and get a liscence to build suppressed weaponry and machine guns Step 3: Look at this machine gun I legally built.

[@ericjill8024]

With original military stamping and markings “Gotta be authentic”

[@GunNr-]

Option 2: Step 1: @&$! the ATF

[@CrowDawg11]

Registering and getting on their watch list is the most idiotic thing you could do.

[@chrisfrags8815]

You can’t present the gun as a creation of your own it has markings that show who made it, when it was made etc

[@Bambihunter1971]

It would be a post-86 example anyway, so no real value to that...

[@randomfamilyman4876]

If a machine gun falls in the woods, does anyone need to know about it???

[@havokvladimirovichstalinov]

Why, what a silly thing to ask. Of course not!

[@ajeje1996]

No, but if it's a Sten, they WILL know about it

[@tylerthegrimm]

Nope lol

[@donaldgoembel7109]

Random, family Man I want to know what kind of tree it fell from😂

[@ajeje1996]

@@donaldgoembel7109 The freedom tree, obviously.

[@scumroyalsgaming]

Me: Agent, my Greatgrandfather brought this gun back from Iwo Jima. Agent: Sir, this is a Browning 1919. Me: Well, I never said he took it from the japanese.

[@brucetucker4847]

Presumably he continued the fine USMC tradition of liberating weapons (and anything else not nailed down) from careless and over-supplied doggies.

[@aevangel1]

Lolz

[@elmerjfapp5730]

@Colin Cleveland sEcOnD bEsT?!

[@mauer594]

@Colin Cleveland Of course, the best is the Army.

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

@Colin Cleveland claim to be the best yet ye lost to the IRA twice

[@CardinalSpeed]

If I found a machine gun, I didnt find a machine gun

[@stoneblue1795]

"Rare lamp parts"......

[@MF-hq9mq]

👍👍👍😂😂😂

[@sb-ant6457]

I've never heard of Mr Cardinal Speed, am I being detained?

[@Ranger1911]

Yo lol 😁😂🤣🤣

[@VorboteDesKrieg]

Keep it in semi at all time... Not a machine gun....

[@honkhonkler7732]

And just like that, no machine gun was ever found again.

[@anomie6788]

I lost all my machine guns in a boating accident.

[@Halozocker104]

@@anomie6788 same, happens all the time smh :D

[@peter386]

You: "I have a Machine Gun my grandfather brought back from Korea". ATF: "Its not registered, where going to confiscate this from you." *Family history/heirloom destroyed and lost forever*

[@ichdissdich98]

You dont have a Machine Gun of your grandfather, you lost it in a boating accident

[@RogerCharlamange]

@johnnys141 Yeah that didn't really work for the people in Waco, don't know how it'd work for you lol

[@nedflanders5302]

@@RogerCharlamange sure as hell makes a statement about unlawful infringement though.

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

@@RogerCharlamange the problem with Waco is they didn't line their lawn with ieds

[@aoibhinnomahony7712]

@@RogerCharlamange learn from the mistakes of people of the past

[@aroniense21]

19:00 So, effectively, if grandpa brought an MP40 back from Berlin or a Type 56 from Hanoi, and for some reason was not able to register it, and I call the BATF, they will come in, take a look at the gun, see that it is not in the registry, and will then proceed to take possession of the gun, and will basically either take it into permanent BATF custody or melt it down. And you wonder why people don't want to contact the BATF if they find a machinegun?

[@rosco_p_coletrain1795]

Not able? No grandpa just didn't trust the government, because he was a smart man.

[@masterzedd4]

I understand your thoughts, but, good ole grandpa broke the law by not registering it. So, he was, and you are now, in possession of an illegal firearm.

[@stevew6138]

WOW, if Grandpa was in Hanoi, he was a POW. I doubt they give rifles away as souvenir. BTW, the type 56 was the SKS, a semi auto.

[@yayo3879]

@@masterzedd4 Nobody cares, bootlicker.

[@stevew6138]

@AngPur, I stand corrected.

[@Spec0psGrunt]

Step one: Don't tell anyone Step two: hide your dog

[@Hughlander]

!Hahahahahahaha

[@tylerblubaugh5549]

Step 3 prep for raid

[@tylerblubaugh5549]

Step 4 raid failed wait for Boogaloo

[@dracogamesx]

Why hide the dog?

[@slimjim2291]

@@dracogamesx because the atf is well known for killing people's dogs when they raid someone and it doesn't seem to matter what kind of dog it is or if it's locked up or not.

[@cr.inthewoods66]

I was going to turn in a gun to the ATF but after a quick background check I have discovered they have a long history of violence and unstable behavior and decided they are not suitable to own a fire arm

[@nostalgiaarcadefuture]

lmao

[@tomwinterfishing9065]

99.99% of irresponsible firearm incidents are perpetrated by the government.

[@wanneroo7106]

Do not contact the ATF directly, have a lawyer do it.

[@constant3273]

Wanneroo or just say nothing

[@constant3273]

W Winterheart nice profile pic ✊🏻

[@springbloom5940]

@W Winterheart Hey, its your dog's funeral....

[@badwrench13]

@@constant3273 Is that the pedo triangles or the nazi triangles?

[@barthoving2053]

Yes because it's not like for the proces to check the register and transfer you need to name the deceased and the heir.

[@lasersharksushi1975]

Remember, take uncle Sam's advice. Loose lips sink ships. Edit since this blew up: If you want to defeat the NFA and laugh at this video, consider supporting GOA, and FPC. They support legal cases that get 2A recognized as it should be in the courts.

[@sumvs5992]

Open logs (as in books) kill dogs

[@saudade7842]

Also if you are a leftist who wants to join a gun rights organization consider joining groups like the SRA. Under no pretext!

[@Limestone_Wolf]

@@saudade7842 gross, a communist.

[@abstractapproach634]

Well said lazerSharkShushi, if that is your real name!

[@NeuroticLobster]

I don’t even want the ATF to know I watched this video, and I don’t even own any machine guns. That’s how little I trust the government.

[@kaiscorner6969]

Same

[@gelatinouswarlock]

I felt this

[@gruntgearreview6490]

Delete your browsing history

[@xzqzq]

Reagan tried to eliminate the ATF, but no other Federal agency would accept their personnel. Wonder why ?

[@sunday8637]

Clearly the correct thing to do was leave a comment.

[@supertampon5]

“THE BATF IS NOT OUT TO GET YOU” what about my dog?

[@tonyflamingo8113]

Dog does not count. The ATF is always coming for your dog

[@brianpayne4549]

Sure…. Tell me another……

[@NRH111]

"How to become jailed or dead in less than 24 hours" there fixed your title for you

[@cheez-itman2784]

Or at the very least lose your rights and your property/valuable family item

[@salamander4668]

Or at least get all your dogs shot, lmao.

[@GIboy1990]

"Theyre not out to get you" a few minutes later.... "and they confiscated the machine guns" lol. okay.

[@nunyabizness199]

Just because youre paranoid doesnt mean their not out to get you....😳

[@Qingeaton]

Doesn't seem like they tried too hard to let them legally keep it now did they?

[@bigburd875]

Literally a lawful transfer, a the weapon is unregistered and the federal agent IN YOUR PRESENCE cannot allow that weapon to be in the public unregistered, so either he is going to take the weapon, or you are committing a crime, and he will have to place you under arrest, it's as simple as that

[@unsainted2240]

@@bigburd875 Yes, simple as that. People do not realize why laws are put in place

[@JackPorter]

Bobby Johnson why not just register it to you now? If you're a lawful citizen with interest in own that piece of machinery, why not just hold off on melting it down to metal slag and just register it from hence forth? Seems stupid to me. As long as they know who owns it NOW, if that gun acted out in a horrible crime, it would be registered to you and it would serve the same function as any other registered gun.

[@sleeplessdev7204]

I'm confused... You said the ATF isn't out to get you and take your guns, they just want to have proper registration, yet in the anecdote, the ATF takes all 3 guns and walks out the door. That's not very convincing

[@Insufferable_Furry_Trash]

The guy is a boot-licker and probably has several 20,000 machine guns and therefore loves the ATF. I like Ian and all but this video is propaganda at it's finest.

[@mebsrea]

SleeplessDev What part of “out to get unregistered guns” do you not understand? Whether you like the law or not, the effect of the 68 and 86 acts was to limit the stock of legally owned machine guns to those registered in compliance with the law at that time. They’re doing the job the democratically elected American government tasked them with; it’s ridiculous that this seems to outrage you.

[@MegaBoooooooooooooob]

@@mebsrea Complete horse shit, You mean a "law" that infringes upon my 2nd & 4th amendment rights? *"One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."*

[@sgthop]

@@MegaBoooooooooooooob You can bear arms without owning a bunch of machine guns. Just sayin. This isn't a new law, but now apparently it's outrageous? As far as the 4th amendment, you have possession of the item, but the whole reason the ATF is there is because you have no proof that it is yours, and if it was yours to be legally owned, the ATF would not be taking it from you. Therefore it is not unreasonable seizure, and certainly not unreasonable search as you invited them in, and therefore not a breach of the 4th amendment. Try again please.

[@sgthop]

@AManNamed2 omegalul

[@duster0066]

Who just "finds" a transferable machine gun in their basement? Who is that lucky? A lady in NY iirc found an StG 44 a few years ago. Found it. She told the world. And now it's gone, or in some cop's basement.

[@imnotirishok]

Actually she took it to a gun buy back and someone identified it and they got her to donate it to a museum instead of chopping it up

[@devexifies248]

@@imnotirishok Actually his comment didn't contain enough information for you to correct him.

[@TheCarDemotic]

Imagine finding an StG 44 in your basement. Would be insane.

[@Joesolo13]

@@devexifies248 There's not a multitude of NYC women finding STG 44s, that specific case is well known, your ignorance of it is pretty hilarious.

[@xzqzq]

Reportedly, @ 50 % of police seized weapons, scheduled for destruction, are ' lost ' along the way. Seems to be looked on as a LEO perk.

[@redram5150]

“ATF” and “friendly to gun owners” do not belong in the same sentence

[@OmegaReaver]

They do, but only if the words "are not" are between them.

[@cuttlefishlongbottomtonche3974]

A Tyrannical Farce

[@cassidy109]

If I were to find a deceased family member’s machine gun that I suspected was never registered I wouldn’t tell anybody. I certainly wouldn’t invite a bunch of goons into my house to take possession of it and then destroy it.

[@Dillinger022]

Exactly. What a stupid f*****g thing to do as the individual did in the Morphy Auctions guy's story. Robbed of 3 priceless historical artifacts by a bunch of thugs.

[@xtranormal2350]

@@Dillinger022 I wonder if the ATF has any sort of relationship with Morphy Auctions wherein confiscated weapons are given for them to sell to people who are probably already on their list.

[@nickhowatson4745]

xtranormal23 the atf destroys any confiscated firearms.

[@kingpin76110]

Nicholas Howatson You’re dreaming. Those peckerwoods snatch them up so fast ur head would spin. Then they mysteriously transform into a broken 10/22 that gets sectioned up with a band saw. Meanwhile they cherry pick the turned in item and take them home. Then ATF is crooked as a barrel of snakes.

[@repairdroid77]

Hey, everyone knows that they were turned into quality rebar or manhole covers. The world needs more of both. Sarcasm BTW.

[@bad74maverick1]

My dad and his business partner have a gun shop and have been in business since 1972. The ATF visits once a year and does a through about every 3 years or less. They have not been nice, cooperative, understanding or polite one time. as a matter of fact they were in 2 months ago and the shop got a citation for paperwork that I actually filled out. I purchased a gun and check marked "Non Hispanic, white". But didn't check mark the box at the end of the other races marked "white". In the last 30 years I have been at that shop, they have stayed between 2 days and 2 weeks and never, ever left without writing up a violation. One was for sq footage of storefrontage vs ammunition and rifle displayed. They said it posed a fire hazard. when asked if they enforced building code, they said no, they just thought it was too much. Fire marshal said we were in spec. when we called them out to check per request. Still got the write up that year. long story short. they are not your friends, nor trustworthy. Think finders keepers in gun situations and keep a lid on it!

[@bad74maverick1]

@@leshtricity Thats the scary part.

[@davidbrock4104]

Kinda like dealing with angry cops. You're gonna get it, you just don't know how bad.

[@bad74maverick1]

@@davidbrock4104 Or rioters and looters who want your possessions not because they are outraged, but because it's a good time to justify stealing. # RoofTopKoreans!

[@bad74maverick1]

@See the Light I remember reading about that. Didn't last long in the news though..... wonder why.... In my case with the citation, I checked Non Hispanic white, not sure at that point why the other had to be checked. It was my fault through and through, I have filled those forms out I don't know how many times. I guess I was just excited. If I remember it was for my Johnson Rifle or Ruger revolver I bought.

[@davehowell3209]

Amen to that!

[@AB-tc1vx]

I like Ian, but I gotta say if I found a machine gun in gramp's attic, these are the last two guys I'd call.

[@qoph1988]

I'd call them a bunch of freedom-hating assholes

[@genericusername4206]

@@qoph1988 dude a machine gun has no practical use, if you really want get an assault rifle for your freedom

[@manictiger]

@@genericusername4206 "Assault weapon" Are you seriously using the language of the enemy?

[@genericusername4206]

@@manictiger sure ok go get your semi automatic long guns that better?

[@manictiger]

@@genericusername4206 Could just call them sporting rifles like everyone else.

[@Lrr_Of_Omikron]

Man my grandpa never left me a machine gun. Some people are so lucky

[@Fergesslich]

The BATF defined your comment as irony and will visit you in the next 24 hours.

[@SaginawGS]

I know. Not even a garand or 1911 even

[@BigBoss-sm9xj]

Haha

[@grahamlopez6202]

The story i was told by my uncle was that the old man ran out of bullets for his rifle and because he was a seabee he wasn't issued a sidearm. They're not gold, and they dont seem to be from different heads. Guess he was trying to get a payday from the tooth fairy

[@chocolatemilk4437]

My stepdad had a buddy with a ppsh back in the 70's

[@CrowDawg11]

"Can we trust the BATF. . ." No, we absolutely cannot.

[@qoph1988]

Fuck no

[@danchristopher7957]

The BATF is in itself, (an) ongoing Constitutional violation!

[@CrowDawg11]

@@danchristopher7957 yes! The entire NFA needs to be struck down immediately

[@Herbymac0811]

Found an STG44 wrapped in newspaper from 1947, while pulling out walls for new floor plan. Forman called cops, ATF destroyed the gun. I almost wept.... However I kept the 3 mags we found with it.

[@tankacebo9128]

please tell me that foreman was accidentally dropped (pushed) into a cement mixer?

[@grrr6637]

It should be a crime to destroy historical items. Punishable by death.

[@JuanCruz-hi4rs]

Nooooooooooooooooooooo9ooo fucking. Forem

[@s.mendoza5705]

@@grrr6637 at least put it in a museum, such a shame to destroy it

[@csxtfarmer]

Horrible

[@nicksoria9299]

I honestly just love how the two anecdotal examples from Mr. Fed are "It wasn't actually a machine gun" and "We gave them an offer they couldn't refuse and took all the guns because the legal owner(s) died".

[@94Thatguy]

Nice try ATF, if i find a machine gun its finders keepers.

[@edomite]

Word

[@danielmarshall4587]

...just like bigfoot, nobody will believe you.

[@wawazaza1785]

Prepping for that boogaloo

[@zackp5294]

Never register shit

[@otherdalek]

@@danielmarshall4587 but what if bigfoot finds a machine gun?

[@cyberbillp]

That fact that seizure and and meltdown is on the table as a possible outcome is reason enough to stash them away quietly and privately.

[@crazyrussianbot8012]

"they'll cut it into pieces and melt it down" NO THANKS

[@The_Big_Jay]

ATF: Sir, we heard you found a Machine Gun. Me: Yup, it was my Grandfather's and I was so excited that I went fishing with it since it was his favorite thing to do! ATF: So where is it? Me: Lost it in a boating accident. ATF: You lost the Machine Gun? Me: What Machine Gun?

[@cymond]

Attorney: my client found a machine gun AFT: who's your client? Attorney: that's protected by attorney-client privilege

[@abstractapproach634]

ATF: ....... Guy that would've ratted you out: ....... You, not trusting anyone: :) fify

[@rj8288]

"The BATF is not out to get you" Yeah right, tell that one to Randy Weaver..

[@Lowtiercomputer]

Explain?

[@joshuakalaniparks9084]

@@Lowtiercomputer Ruby ridge

[@KB4QAA]

@@joshuakalaniparks9084 No, before Ruby Ridge. They had an agent approach Weaver something like 8 times attempting to get him to illegally modify a shotgun. Each time he refused, until the last.

[@t.m.h.7962]

@@KB4QAA and he cut the barrels to 1/4 inch over legal which was not measured at the time. they just arrested him.

[@martinda7446]

Extraordinary story. Wiki it if unfamiliar, as I was. They shot his wife and 14 year old son. Disgusting and shocking.

[@matthayward7889]

08:05 “he looted it fair and square in combat” 😂😂😂

[@quacky1874]

Nothing more legal than killing the guy who had it first and taking it off him.

[@bogdanbogdanoff5164]

right of conquest baby

[@zettor47]

video game rules 😉

[@chrisneedham5803]

Brits always play by the rules 😂😂😂😂😂😂 'looted fair and square' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@gunner678]

@@chrisneedham5803 yes we do lol!

[@vampyr2936]

Tell this to the guy that brought back one of Sadam's gold AK and got it confiscated by the BATFE

[@big_ute]

I know him personally, he got into SO MUCH SHIT over that, he was pissed about it too because they govt hadnt rewritten the war trophies regulation and weapons were not part of it then. Frankly Id be fucking pissed too.

[@eamonwright7488]

@@big_ute Was it Saddam's AK? Or was it from the huge cache of Uday's firearms?

[@ericbennett5354]

"The ATF is not out to get you" "If they smell a rat, it's not going to go good for you"

[@sethtate2079]

Right???? Like they are going to be investigating me for doing the right so called right thing.

[@kirya312]

@@justforever96 yeah, they will just seize and destroy it

[@millitron3666]

"The BATF is not out to get you." Yeah, tell Randy Weaver that.

[@matthewmorel3758]

Or David Koresh.

[@5roundsrapid263]

Or Cliven Buddy.

[@Destiny4511]

@@matthewmorel3758 - You mean where the FBI Hostage Rescue Team rescued 87 people to death?

[@randomname4950]

You know you can trust the FBI when their terms of engagement are less strict than those for soldiers in hostile foreign nations.

[@billwalker4836]

Millitron Remember Ruby Ridge

[@orellaminx3530]

My grandpa brought home an MP 34, had it registered, still had the paper work. It's since been destroyed because the government lost their records of it.

[@gergoantal1066]

A shame.

[@bobjohnson9306]

@@gergoantal1066 a damned ashame smh

[@housekilla457]

I’m sure as time goes by more government records will be “lost” so that the next time someone tries to transfer a weapon the can “confiscate” that weapon they don’t have a record of.

[@SuperWellhung1]

Several years ago the ATF was swamped with paperwork so they ran a bunch of the papers through a shredder. Reading your and other similar comments, I am confident your Grandpa's were some of the papers.

[@valtyrodinson430]

"Lost"

[@WG-tt6hk]

I Found a Machine Gun: What Should I Do? Answer: Buy large capacity mags and several thousand rounds.

[@guyfawkes8873]

Not even a little bit funny...

[@gickygackers]

Guy Fawkes coming from guy fawkes? Disapponted!

[@logant4217]

@@gickygackers hahaha the irony!

[@icantsaywhat]

Now that’s funny

[@loveterrortattoo7867]

TruthB Told nonsense. They’re standard capacity magazines. Libs just started calling them that to stir the shit pot

[@VolvoGonzo]

ATF: "We'll took all three guns." "Wow, thanks", said no one.

[@firedevilblack]

Y'all remember the time the ATF gave a bunch of guns to the Cartel?

[@firedevilblack]

The gunwalking scandal

[@chrishansen1293]

@@willholly1844 The one where they made a series of car movies about it.

[@Razgriz85]

I memba.

[@flyingninja1234]

Named that operation after a movie.

[@Wetcorps]

Well this proves they don't ONLY take guns :)

[@IAMTHEIC3MAN]

Keep it and don’t tell the fudds

[@Funnymandias]

Based and McVeighpilled

[@randomfamilyman4876]

Tell them what...... Exactly

[@Funnymandias]

It was very tragic. I lost all my firearms in a boating accident, including my "registered" 3rd pinhole AR and my recreational McTannerite.

[@Hrajnoga]

That's exactly what we do in Europe ! :-D

[@lMegumemesl]

@@Funnymandias f

[@DivingDonut]

1. Don't tell anyone 2. Make it functional again 3. HO HO HO!

[@jeffglennglenn]

I think you meant PEW PEW PEW

[@swaggareli]

Jeffrey Glenn I think it was a Die Hard reference. “Now I have a machine gun. Ho ho ho”

[@1Thatstrangeguy]

-Dog pees in the house Threaten to call ATF -Dog reverse pees

[@monkeybuttdevinlane]

Upvote. Mostly because it seems we're related somehow?

[@mntlmentos]

unregistered piss

[@alwaysthatguy472]

Oh hey other Guys.

[@MeatbagKillaXD]

This video just made me trust the ATF even less somehow.

[@610ericma1]

same i have little to no respect for feds anymore

[@UrielX1212]

Given how they change the rules to the game all the time. My trust of the ATF is near 0.

[@charlierubenstein2886]

Thank you for your view. I never possessed a machine gun.

[@rememberussliberty1822]

>Find Machine gun >tell no one >Cut hole in drywall >Place machine gun in wall with 5k rounds of ammo >patch section of wall and paint over >in case of boogaloo break wall

[@elPominator]

Guess it's time to break that wall

[@smartman136]

@@elPominator this comment aged well

[@skippah6901]

No no no... Punch through the wall with both arms, one arm with the machine gun the other with spare ammo

[@jamesr792]

“The ATF is not out to get you” Tell that to the puppers!!!

[@grahamlopez6202]

To be fair my dog will attack you if she knows I dont want you in the house and I REALLY dont want the atf in my house

[@grahamlopez6202]

No it's because all the machieneguns.. I mean uhhhh.... the not machieneguns...... yeah the not machieneguns

[@grahamlopez6202]

But in all honesty if I DID have machineguns I wouldn't keep them in my house at all

[@DSFARGEG00]

The ATF that sells guns to the cartels and shoots Lassie isn't out to get you :^)

[@grahamlopez6202]

It's not me I'm worried about

[@damondiehl5637]

There's a saying, "It's a lot easier to get your hand into a trap than it is to get it out." If that doesn't describe dealing with the government, I don't know what does. p.s. I don not find a machinegun.

[@abstractapproach634]

Yeah ..... me neither

[@jamesedmond3351]

"Never Trust the United States Government", period, end of lesson.

[@quest4adventure495]

Close but not quite. The correct statement is: never trust any government ever.

[@remcovanvliet3018]

Tim beat me to it.

[@alexthehun24gaming58]

Cops are not your friends and when they are talking to you the only thing you should say is I'm not saying anything to you without an attorney.

[@5678sothourn]

Go live in a different country then.

[@dieterdodel1974]

Never trust any Government of any Country, period, end of lesson.

[@Whitpusmc]

What machine gun?

[@MF-hq9mq]

Whitpusmc 👍👍👍 best and wisest comment of all 😂😂😂

[@robertn4840]

At this point the ATF has demonstrated that we the people should NEVER trust the ATF to act in good faith.

[@chuy3162]

They appreciate your diligence in infringing on your second amendment rights.

[@anthonyhayes1267]

Finds unregistered mg in the attic. Laughs in libertarian.

[@npc0168]

Buries it under his pot farm and uses crypto currency to buy the shovel.

[@silentbigsteve3429]

@@npc0168 too true

[@knottreel]

The ATF is not out to get you. Just ask Brad Martin, of Cornelius, Ore, who had a shipment of Airsoft seized, claimed to be easily converted to machineguns. That shipment was worth around $12,000 and the ATF promised to destroy the entire shipment. ATF has never demonstrated that Airsoft could be converted to machineguns.

[@tomcraven47]

Yeah, you could convert them. These were GBBRs that absolutely couldn't fire a round, but the lower was essentially an untracked lower with a full auto pocket; I think it had the correct 3rd hole, I'm not sure. It's pretty telling that WE changed the fire control pocket on them right after.

[@matthewlangley3524]

@@tomcraven47 ever since first hearing about that I've occasionally gone looking for the official end result. Just looked again and couldn't find anything but the stories from 2010. Do you have something I could go off?

[@tomcraven47]

@@matthewlangley3524 If you're that into it, I would contact the owner of the airsoft shop. I know I saw his information out there.

[@martinrobillard1]

you must be from commiefornia ?

[@tomcraven47]

@@martinrobillard1 Who are you talking to? I'm not from California, but I work there in a USMC armory so I have an idea of what I'm talking about.

[@rigormortis1425]

HO HO HO! Now i have a machine gun

[@PonzooonTheGreat]

Other way around!

[@joeydubbs763]

Still makes me smile😉

[@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke]

Great Christmas movie

[@Sseltraeh89]

I see you're a man of culture as well.

[@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke]

@@Sseltraeh89 it's un-American to not be

[@boatdetective]

The vid should be retitled “how to alert the ATF to come take your gun”

[@robzombie1845]

Shut up and put it away in a hidden secret Location XD

[@chevota84]

Yeah, that's pretty much what got from watching this.

[@Lynch30]

sell it to the hood guys xD

[@psykoklown874]

That was my first thought.

[@mlm_academyofficial2041]

Never agreed with a commie before

[@Sakkehattu]

Yeah, do that. When you get busted for 10 grams of weed (or some other very minor thing, that can be used to get a warrant) and they search your house, have fun in court.

[@jacobwrona]

Anyone listening immediately think of Fast and Furious when they mentioned the ATF acting in good faith? Honorable mentions include the Branch Davidians in Waco Texas and Randy Weaver at Ruby Ridge.

[@xephael3485]

@Jacob Wrona Those were just little mistakes. Forgive and forget..🤣

[@5roundsrapid263]

Don’t forget using an MP5 to take a 5-year old on Easter morning...

[@5roundsrapid263]

rwsthedemonking They should have been tried and convicted, and their kids put in foster care. You really prefer burning to death women and children?

[@vector6977]

@rwsthedemonking so a 15 yr old kid a dog and a mother holding her baby deserved to die because of a non-existent sawed off shotgun?

[@vector6977]

@Cultural Relic True Story.

[@tylenol_jones]

"...want to make the registry accurate" What this actually means is they want the registry to shrink

[@Wirt99]

Finds machine gun, "Hippity hoppity, now this is my property"

[@JRCinKY]

The LAST DAMN thing you want to do is contact the ATF.

[@5678sothourn]

I thought you trusted gun jesus.

[@MustangGuru]

True story.

[@Born_Stellar]

@Liberty or Death I bet all of Jesus' guns were registered.

[@ethanlamoureux5306]

@Liberty or Death The Romans were an occupying force. Thruout history only conquered people were prohibited from bearing arms, by their conquerors, least the people rise up and throw the bastards down.

[@CollapsedLung]

Living in the liberty hating country of Scotland, I found a WWI flare gun in my recently deceased cousin’s woodshed. Told the police like a responsible gun owner and asked if I could add it to my firearm certificate, the local firearms cop (who is my brother) says he doesn’t see why I can’t add it to my certificate for sentimental reasons, as he inspects many certificates with old firearms kept for sentimental reasons. So I inform the firearms licensing department in Inverness, those pricks tell me I have no right to add the flare gun to my certificate and to hand it into the police for destruction or expect them to take it from me. It sucks being a law abiding citizen.

[@ThomasWilliams-zo7ke]

Hence so many Americans having boating accidents

[@lordsummerisle87]

@@gsfbffxpdhhdf7043 Flare guns are Section 1 firearms in the UK.

[@davejob630]

Sadly Scotland lost its fight for freedom to the English a long time ago. How my ancestors wound up in Australia.

[@lordsummerisle87]

@@davejob630 Spouting historical bollocks like that you'll be telling us Gallipoli was an excuse for English politicians to slaughter honest ANZACs to please their Jewish lizard banker overlords next.

[@CollapsedLung]

@@davejob630 If Scotland were to become an independent country the firearms laws will worsen, and civil liberty in general will also.

[@dankdark974]

If anyone turns in or destroys an unregistered war bring back from a vet, like a lot of Thompsons that turn up, you are an awful human being.

[@irishdragon2311]

Yeah couldn't agree more! I might add they should be publicly flogged? ;)

[@RacistFemboyFox]

I'm disappointed that the person many people usually think of as gun jesus lets the ATF agent right next to him lie right to our faces.

[@TerrellThomas1971]

these guys want their jobs, not jail cells

[@JayMoreau]

If Ian doesn’t do this stuff, he is a target.

[@perrinromney4555]

He's not an ATF agent.

[@skippah6901]

@@perrinromney4555 thats what they all say... its all fun and games until atf man swoops in and swipes my M1919 Machine Gun

[@tempviduse]

SkipperTheGrunt your what now

[@alexk2418]

More fun variant.... Call ATF, and say. "NOW I HAVE A MACHINE GUN HO HO!!" And hang-up on them...

[@jamestheotherone742]

SWATing in 3... 2... 1

[@jeanbaptistevallee4500]

See my post above............................

[@MrChadsimoneaux]

Well that made me snort laugh.

[@justinreed9029]

That's how you get your dog shot

[@flyingninja1234]

That's a great way to get your door kicked in.

[@Meph648]

I'm not even American and even I would never do anything to help the BATFE infringe on the 2nd amendment any further. I know you can't very well go on youtube and say something like "hide it and shut up", but the BATFE apologist "they are not the bad guys" and "there are many agents friendly to the shooting hobby" made me cringe. Don't give them a single inch.

[@nercksrule]

@@DarkMatterX1 The irony of you taking the words of the first members of the federal government as the words of God......

[@pietrayday9915]

To be fair, there's the enforcement wing of the BATFE, and there is the licensing wing... I've never had to deal with the jack-booted enforcers, and hopefully never will, but my dealings with the folks who handle the licensing has never been anything but positive. For example, there was the time when I tried to fill out the form to renew my C&R collector's license on a bad day, and checked all the wrong boxes - the ones where I basically said "yes, I'm definitely a fugitive from justice, and a convict, and a domestic batterer, and a serial killer, and illegal alien, and shouldn't be allowed within a mile of a picture of a gun!", and then lost the form for a couple weeks, and found it just in time to try to mail it off at the last minute, only to get to the post office too late on a holiday to get it to the BATFE on time. I mailed it in late anyway, not realizing the mistake on the paperwork, and a few days later I got a registered letter back from the BATFE licensing office, explaining that they're sure I made a mistake, with a fresh blank form attached, and an extension allowing me to resubmit the form with a generous new deadline. Nobody at the BATFE really needed to do that, they could have given me all kinds of grief, they could have sabotaged me in a way that could have at least prevented me from renewing the license, if not prevented me from ever owning a gun again or using the opportunity to send in the troops, but instead they were pretty friendly, understanding, and helpful about the whole thing, and gave me the benefit of doubt and took the opportunity to go above and beyond the minimum to give me a chance to correct my mistake. Beside that, every question I've ever asked the licensing side of the ATF has been promptly, thoroughly, and helpfully answered, and every other interaction I've had with them has been nothing but efficient and professional. So, in my experience, yes: the BATFE - or at least the licensing side of the bureau - is friendly to and supportive of the shooting and collecting hobbies, and I'm sure that the chances are good that anyone going through the trouble of trying to engage in the hobby in an orderly and lawful way by going through what is, really, a completely unnecessary licensing process in the case of a C&R license, is a completely different story from anyone who needs to have the jack-booted enforcers kick in the door to search their house because they've been doing something shifty. The enforcement side of the bureau might well be a different story, and certainly seems to have more than its fair share of horror stories (much like police and enforcement agencies anywhere tend to whenever the level of anonymity between the agents and the people they police increases). And, don't get me wrong: I don't really like having to be processed for background checks before each legal sale of a gun or all of the hoops to jump through wherever licensing and so on are concerned, and if I had my choice they'd all be overthrown. But, of all the government agencies I've ever dealt with, I think I'd rather deal with the licensing folks at the BATFE the most. They're positively a pleasure to deal with compared to, say, the government agencies that inspect my cars, or issue my driver's licenses, or handled my passport, or did customs and luggage searches and strip searches etc. on my few experiences with air travel or trips to other countries.....

[@bigmike-]

"So I found a machine gun - what should I do?" Super simple: You keep it to your god damned self and don't tell anybody about it, period. If you have the luck (either bad or good) to stumble onto a machine gun, assume that the ATF is going to try to punish you for finding it - that's the default position of that agency, because that's the reason that they exist. There are instances where that may not be the case, but it's better to err on the side of caution and simply assume the worst possible scenario when it comes to things like this. I hope I saved everybody some time :)

[@jason127x99]

Mike Lilienthal exactly! Don't ask and don't tell period!

[@D33Lux]

"Everything you say and do will be held against you in a court of law." That doesn't sound like something that benefits anyone.

[@cultofflop3659]

This video should be 2 seconds long and the script should read “keep it”

[@darthioan]

This is awful advice. Just contact an nfa lawyer or any lawyer who is specialized in this sort of thing. It is very likely your pop's machine gun will just be confiscated or worse.

[@thetruthseeker5549]

The idea that the mere possession of an inanimate object can cause you more time in jail, cost more, and have longer reaching effects in your life than many examples of genuine acts that harm or maim or victimize others says something about priorities in our government.

[@slowstang88]

Like taping a 2ltr bottle to your gun barrel can get you mandatory prison time... this government is fucked sideways, it's too powerful and goes against the people.

[@kevinjackson4464]

Yeah, something bad.

[@tankacebo9128]

ten guys with machine guns are a bigger threat to any government than a hundred muggers, rapists, and thieves.

[@DKL997]

What if it's presently-inanimate, but a formerly-animate, object? Like a pole decorated with human heads or something? Maybe that's not automatic jail time, but it should raise a unibrow or two.

[@dragonhealer7588]

@@DKL997 Sadly, possession of human body parts is a felony these days.

[@ryfish5]

I think I'm more confused now. At first he was like, 'they're not out to get you and take away your stuff, they just want to make sure it is registered' and by the end he was like 'oh they're just taking yer shit and leaving, bye'. So basically what I learned is: If you can't find paperwork specifying that this gun was registered, put it away for safekeeping and tell no one.

[@ace-kz9id]

Kinda late but truth be told. Never tell the government anything you dont have to. Better to apologize later than ask for permission.

[@baronofrhodes1185]

"I found a machine gun. What should I do?" "You didn't find a machine gun. Do nothing." -For legal reasons, that was a joke

[@CmdrMiskyavine]

How many artifacts have been destroyed like BARs Tompsons and grease guns? like really its just pissing away history an old firearm from ww1 or ww2 should be treated like a sword from medieval times. Would be a great video to make like the effects the hughes ammendment took on the historic firearm community and how much history was destroyed by the criminals in the ATF.

[@Purpmaster]

CmdrMiskyavine My thoughts EXACTLY!!! Is should be a crime that so many extremely rare and historically priceless weapons are butchered and rewelded, stripped for parts, or destroyed outright! Our govt knows that these classic and massively valuable guns are NOT used in crimes! They should at the very least allow these guns to be converted to semi auto without having to be butchered with a sloppy torch and rewelded and refinished for no good logical reason! They act like that is somehow the only way to make them semi automatic lol. It is so frustrating 🤦‍♂️

[@garybarwikowski4066]

CmdrMiskyavine iii

[@brianweiss1403]

It is dumb I work in a machine shop and made a full auto Mack 11 from blue prints I got online so they r not stopping anything

[@Grimmwoldds]

@@Purpmaster It is very dumb. They should change their angle of attack and restrict sale of full auto bullets instead.

[@jeffdurden398]

@@brianweiss1403 Nice joke bro but I'd delete this comment if I were you. It's enough to get them a warrant even though you are kidding. Who want's to spend two days putting your house back together after they trash it, (and steal anything they fancy)?

[@CoppaShotta]

The thought of inviting jackboot thugs to your home to confiscate/destroy a rare fiream is abhorrent.

[@richardwendt9266]

Estimates are that between 238,000 and 380,000 guns are stolen every year from legal gun owners. What is scarier? The ATF or the theft of guns? How do you police who has guns and who doesn't? I'm more scared of gun thefts that a government body in control of guns.

[@garand80]

@@richardwendt9266 considering government's of the 20th century murdered over 262 million of their own disarmed people I'd take my chances with crimminals having guns over the federal government

[@richardwendt9266]

​@@garand80 That is true, but that doesn't mean there should be absolute anarchy among the population as far as gun ownership goes. Don't forget that you are most likely to be killed by someone you know, and women are most likely to be killed by their partners. But to compare the US government to Russia's Stalin, Germany's Hitler or Cambodia's Pol Pot is not exactly a fair comparison.

[@garand80]

@@richardwendt9266 did the us government not murder 290 natives Americans. Throw us citizens of Japanese decent into concentration camps during ww2 slaughter Vicky and Sam Weaver at Ruby ridge. And let's not forget burning women and children alive because of a tax code violation.... trust your government...

[@D33Lux]

@@richardwendt9266 Statist!

[@dickgherkinstien2016]

Grandpa looted it fare and square in combat .. LMFAO I'm dying😆

[@alexanderren1097]

"The ATF is not out to get you. Here let me give you a real-world anecdote." Yeah nah. I've got 2 real-world anecdotes that prove the ATF is in fact out to get anyone they can: Waco & Ruby Ridge

[@theodorechill]

100%

[@cougarhunter33]

"The BATF is not out to get you," is not exactly how I recall the 90's.

[@a68dart340]

Or the 8 years of Obama...

[@russellsmith3825]

Plenty of dead puppies and kittens testify to this fact

[@JohnDoe-ff2fc]

hello, we're from the government. we're here to help you

[@russellsmith3825]

@@JohnDoe-ff2fc David Hardy wrote a book a few years back, "Hello I'm from the government and I'm here to kill you" ASIN: B06XG1PDKG

[@allenschmitz9644]

But they sure would like to git that ww2 gun..the 90's sucked..

[@kolinmartz]

Wow. The ATF just straight up took 3 family heirlooms from that woman. Then you have the audacity to begin the video saying they’re not out to get you.

[@orion8981]

Worth tens of thousands of dollars, at that. Their entire agency is a waste of oxygen.

[@Th3Su8]

"They're not out to get you" in the sense that if you are doing your due diligence to follow the current laws, they will not throw you in jail. I admit that it would suck greatly to lose family heirlooms like the lady in the example, but legally she cannot own those firearms as the laws are currently written.

[@joshuagrahamcrackers]

Those laws are unconstitutional and illegitimate.

[@1pcfred]

They're just out to get your own personal possessions.

[@toddmetzger]

@@Th3Su8 Read the second amendment. Here let me help you: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." Now how has the government infringed on the right of Granny to keep and bear those arms?

[@BuggaBoy69]

So basically if I find a machine gun than I must’ve been mistaken.

[@BuggaBoy69]

no idk, Must’ve been my mind playing tricks on me

[@orionbenziger1483]

Ian if you have a gun to your back then say, "I trust the ATF"

[@DeepPastry]

So the answer is yes, they'll take your guns if they can.

[@Razgriz85]

if and when they see fit to do so.

[@meshaft]

Keeping in mind that no well known and respected gun person or business wants to speak negatively towards the ATF, I do believe this video could have been more correctly titled "How to safely and legally lose possession of a firearm to the ATF" , because once you bring it to their attention, if you are not the heir to the registered owner or it was never registered......it's gone. There's no way to legally keep it.

[@eberbacher007]

True, but imagine the joy if it was registered to somebody eleses grandpa when they cat the letter that they suddenly own a 40 000$ german machinegun that they can now sell. Just sucks for you who found it and whose granddad maybe but it from the other granddad without ever transferring it

[@jimm6673]

eberbacher007 unless it was stolen then who cares? Even then unless it was recently then finders keepers.

[@828enigma6]

Answer: Keep it, restore it, and hide it in a better spot after wiping all surfaces to remove DNA and fingerprints. Say nothing to anyone. Not even your spouse.

[@veedee4860]

Grim Reaper What gun? What spouse?

[@RacistFemboyFox]

Remember boys, 3 can keep a secret, if 2 of them are dead.

[@squirrelandowl7482]

Had to down vote because, "the ATF is not out to get you..." Love this channel, but F that.

[@isosev]

Yeah. They arent out to get you until your barrel is 1/2 an inch below regulations and then they suddenly have the right to shoot you, your dog, your family, your house, your cat, your goldfish, and then beat the corpses to get the money for the fines.

[@deforesterd]

This channel is ridiculously liberal. Capitalizing on guns and gun culture while selling it out at the same time, reinforcing and normalizing the idea that "regular citizens" shouldn't have access to pieces of metal that can run faster. Absolutely disgusting and I'd hope these jackwagons would have some shame but I'd highly doubt it. I cant find a better example for blatantly hating american values

[@monkeybuttdevinlane]

The ATF as an organization probably isn't. Agent Karen who knows what's best for everyone might be. Then her supervisor Karen is... You're right. They're all Karens. I doubt many people apply with hopes of enforcing alcohol and tobacco tax violations.

[@optimisticpessimist.]

That is their sole purpose.

[@MmmChipotle]

100% true.

[@jdmbeaner182]

I've heard that the atf shoots your dogs as a finders fee.

[@bobhunt4402]

I personally don't have any desire to own a fully automatic firearm. That said, I believe when someone trying to abide by the law contacts the BATF-E and subsequently has the government take a non-registered fully automatic firearm from them that person should be entitled to compensation. If not full market value that compensation should at least be a significant portion of fair market value.

[@toddmetzger]

Then it will be calculated to show that you owe the government for back taxes, and back license fees, penalties, oh and interest...can't forget interest.

[@horus909]

what is an unregistered machine gun worth(as a percentage of a registered one)? I'd say much less.

[@CrazyPalidin57]

Depending on the model, registered machine guns can go from a ballpark of $20,000 to $120,000.

[@xkeepersvk]

They will compensate you in less/no time served.

[@mclew1234]

I can't believe that they actually just take it for destruction, surely it would be more economical to take it, and maybe demilitarize it and sell it to a museum. Then split the profits with the estates, i'm not from the US so I don't totally understand but destroying items of historical importance seems a bit silly

[@TeletubbiesRcute]

What if the machine gun identifies as a "bolt action rifle for sporting purposes as defined by the BATFE" ?

[@jamesslick4790]

@@mpeugeot Well, You know that any REVOLVER identifies as a "Machine Gun" if given a caress by Jerry Miculek. Just Saying.

[@STGN01]

95% of comments: YOU DID NOT FIND A MACHINEGUN!

[@toad3222]

And for good reason too

[@ripno2672]

And 95% if the comments that get machine guns will actually get to keep it - the 5% left wont.

[@ENKTDeeColon_and_randomnumbers]

To be fair, my man @John Sanchez was out fishing