I Found The ACTUAL Difference Between Them…

[@STUCUBE]

Which cross color(s) do you solve on? ⬇️

[@shalem12348]

White and yellow

[@TPerm805]

White

[@ThatCubeKidd]

I thought I did white/yellow until I looked at one of my official averages lol

[@zecho6552]

White & yellow

[@FortzapzTheKing]

White yellow red and orange

[@ThatCubeKidd]

I was “deafult” colour neutral, because when I was learning the cube, I thought “why do I have to do white cross, isn’t other crosses the same” so I ended up learning it that way.

[@FortzapzTheKing]

Same but i didnt do green and blue cross

[@MoyuGuy]

im trying to tell my brother to do different crosses but he insists green is the best.

[@RafaCuber]

Great intro 😂 You make great videos.We are only a few months away from this channel becoming viral 🎉

[@FedoranCubing]

I remember Matty telling me at Nats that Tymon wasn’t actually truly color neutral; he is primarily white-yellow, but apparently can do other colors if he sees something more optimal on there, but primarily he is just dual neutral, which is why you see him using white and yellow for most of the wolves in his WR averages.

[@STUCUBE]

Wow, that’s actually something I didn’t know, but now that I think about it I do remember seeing him do white/yellow quite often

[@christopher_campbell]

I’m dual color neutral white and yellow, my thoughts are that if you go for cn then it’s cool you can find best and more efficient solutions. But there’s a good part to dual color neutrality. You limit yourself to two options and they could be possibly pretty bad. But you would know how to solve it unlike seeking easier solutions. Being dual cn helps you explore more complex solutions and better expand knowledge of various situations

[@BrianJohnsonCubing]

1:03 I am CN but I have a bias to white/yellow (my lookahead is better on those colors) I guess it just depends on how strict your definition is

[@STUCUBE]

Ohh ok that makes sense. How easy would the cross have to be for you to consider a color other than white/yellow in comp?

[@BrianJohnsonCubing]

@@STUCUBE usually I would like to be able to see 2nd pair for other cross colors, or easy cross + 1. Since my lookahead is my weak point on these colors, I try to offset it by planning further.

[@Cube_In_Space]

I would suggest trying to use both white and yellow it can really save you when you have a really bad white cross or give you a really good time if yellow is insane. It’s not super difficult to learn either.

[@mango7231]

In 2017, Max said he can't do Red/Orange. He can do Red/Orange now, but I remember looking as his SpeedcubeDB stats and it showed that he favours Red/Orange the least.

[@twandullemond6800]

Color neutral is superior for championship finals tho, there's not much discussion there

[@STUCUBE]

That is very interesting. You obviously have more experience in the affects of this than most, so do you think it’s planning further in inspection that has the biggest impact in situations like this?

[@twandullemond6800]

@@STUCUBE on a bigger scale of solves the times where white cross is bad will start to average out. When with such a small set of 5 solves there will be times where one color can be so much worse then the other. Every top cuber will agree that an average of five in a high pressure scenario can be quite random. And it is quite a miracle how representative the results of this world championship was, even though it was the most likely outcome.

[@twandullemond6800]

​@@STUCUBEalso, hilarious quote in the description😅

[@curiousNic]

I'm a white/yellow solver and do not plan to become cn although I occasionally solve on other colors just to challenge my brain. And thanks for the reminder at the end, I almost forgot how big of a disappointment I am. PS: That's my favorite "quote" in the description so far.

[@HFrHaFi]

the hard part of cn is the f2l, the rest are easy

[@Progress_vs_time]

The Speedcubedb youtube channel has a few podcasts, where both Tymon and Matty say that in comps they don't usually plan too much ahead in inspection, just cross +1 ("just" lol), as they'd rather do a good cross that allows them to not look at it, than plan 2 pairs with a complicated solution that hinders speed. Taking that into consideration, one could argue that being color neutral makes it easy to quickly pick the cross that has the solution with the fewest moves/most pieces solved, both for speed and for looking at something else. Then the "too many options to choose from" argument comes into play, and Yiheng pretty much proves that it is all possible without full color neutrality. I don't know, I only solve white, I think dual color neutrality is the way to go if someone has not been color neutral before it's too late to be color neutral. If that makes sense.

[@Progress_vs_time]

Ay also great work on all your videos, thanks for the content! By the way, what cube did you use in this video? I have almost everything but none sound like yours.

[@STUCUBE]

I’ve seen some of those podcasts before, I remember Tymon saying something about how he tried to restrict himself to not doing xcrosses and only cross plus 1 instead, really interesting. Cube is Tornado V3 Falgship

[@ARWCubing]

Your videos are great!

[@SpeedMinxer]

2:37 I mess mix up Gc perm with A perm all the time as well lol

[@sofiamn_05]

Tip: In the A perm, with the 2x4 block on the front left, the color of the front-right corner is the same color as the edge in the right face. In the Gperm, that same corner is the opposite color of that edge on the right face.

[@apurpleforg]

the quality of the content keeps improving! its amazing how fast youre growing

[@ferluys]

I became color neutral when I was still using beginners method and now I would like to know what it feels like to not be able to start with any color

[@reecypeecy9909]

I’m color neutral and it took me a week or two of slow solving for it to be worth it but I still favor white and yellow.

[@pengusplayz5756]

4:05 I never knew you were colourblind! What type do you have?

[@pumpkinut5314]

Being CN does not mean you get faster times, you just get better crosses. It is still important on how you execute the entire solves instead of picking a color. Although solving only on white isn't very ideal as it really limits your abilities, yellow and white is a good combination. Most young cubers nowadays use dual CN and still become world class solvers.

[@kiraPh1234k]

Being CN does get you faster times. Better cross = faster cross. Faster cross average means faster solve average. Of course the rest of the solve also matters, solves don't stand alone. And there's likely many more things you can cut time from than your cross. However CN is the natural way, I see it every time I teach someone, every single one learns CN naturally. They never choose just one color to start a solve with. I have recommended after the fact to specific people to just try to stick with one color start if I see they have extreme difficulties in recognizing pieces, but it's always something I have to teach them specifically to do. It's only people who are taught to not be CN that aren't, since people naturally learn to recognize patterns and not colors for organization. I'm not saying it's bad to not be, but I am saying there's no reason to keep teaching people what is essentially a bad habit when it's entirely unnecessary and goes against the natural human inclination.

[@banditfishing1558]

I solve colour neutral. Just seemed to make sense that if 1 cross is easier to solve on that colour to me. However I can see why people solve only 2 colours

[@OlgaFyodorova]

I’m color neutral, but if I can’t see anything goo right away, I check white and yellow.

[@latermyfriend8934]

white and red (yes I'm weird)

[@GammieAndJimmy]

White Cross

[@0Aquamelon]

My *line* colors are white and yellow. I tried to be color neutral many times but it's just a lot harder to process what I'm doing. I DO actually do a z rotation if I solve stuff on right first, so then I can solve stuff on the right again, (a technique called Snake Pattern) but that's a bit different than doing everything color neutral as I still start on white or yellow.

[@0Aquamelon]

Edited for a typo: I forgot the "z"

[@ARWCubing]

White and yellow

[@OlleSC]

Yes! Another upload from the next cubing content goat!🎉

[@HarelGilad]

I'm solving only on orange. seriously, it's my favourite color so I started with it and I've stuck with it ever since. I'm probably the only one though😅

[@nasdfigol]

Thats really interesting, what did the tutorial u first used say?

[@HarelGilad]

my friend taught my how to solve like five years ago, I think he told me I can start on any color I'd like, so I just settled on oragne@@nasdfigol

[@sofiamn_05]

I also learned with red/orange! I learned from a spanish youtuber who did a video teaching with red, and that now has millions of views, so in the spanish cubing community it is slightly more common to see red/orange solvers

[@lalruatdika2494]

Im colour neutral at PLL🤣

[@alinazar7998]

White yellow green

[@igorpertoso6115]

Why search for a cross when you can join the rouxvolution?

[@stetsonjohnson0828]

I'm CN

[@Randomvr9]

Bro what how are you so fast you’re color blind!?!!??4:05

[@david.craig2217]

I usually solve on white/yellow but if there's a 2 move red cross, I'll just do red instead of white/yellow

[@CozyChampFN]

Hi as a colorblind cubed myself I wanted to give you a tip on how you can help it. I’m not sure how bad your’s is but mine is terrible so I use colors that I can see better on stickered cubes.

[@STUCUBE]

Mine isn’t that bad, I can usually tell colors apart on stickerless but yeah it would probably be easier

[@ChachipiruliOficial]

NO WAY IS MAX PARK

[@JohnAJ-07]

Its not dummie

[@cuberboi]

I was debating if I should be color neutral and now I know

[@rax1899]

Wouldn’t this experiment make more sense if you were CN?

[@STUCUBE]

Yes. Unfortunately I am not CN so we work with what we have, would definitely be interesting to see tho

[@sofiamn_05]

​@@STUCUBEwould've been interesting if you'd done a collab with someone who is CN

[@lukasreuter4690]

Your channel will be really big if you keep uploading

[@TheCuberGuyYt]

white and yellow

[@1lookguy]

What app do you use to make your thumbnails, and how long have you been making videos for.

[@STUCUBE]

I usually just make my thumbnails in CapCut, I’ve been video editing for probably around 6-7 years but not posting on KZbin in that time

[@nasdfigol]

Dual neutral but if another cross is pretty good ill just do it, regardless which color. I'm somewhat ok at red and blue and to a lesser extent orange Fuck green

[@Waalaa-Jude]

Bro said f#ck green😂😂

[@sofiamn_05]

That was personal

[@cubeclimber_official]

Which video editor do you use?

[@STUCUBE]

CapCut and Premier Pro

[@cubeclimber_official]

Nice 👌 I just use CapCut 😢

[@Julian_Bro12]

Im colour noutral

[@ardnamalas1357]

I have a challenge for you to a video: Try to get somewhat fast with roux and then try it with color neutrality. I tried it and it was hard and fun

[@STUCUBE]

I might do the roux part, but color CN on roux would be somewhat of a nightmare I think lol

[@kiraPh1234k]

​@@STUCUBEMeh - when I teach beginners Roux, they end up naturally color neutral. I also think the lack of color neutrality in the first place is only common because when people teach beginners CFOP/LBL, they instruct them to look for very specific pieces like the white edges, instead of just telling them to make a cross with match colors

[@Cubener]

Your video is good bro

[@thechunnydevil6295]

What cube are you using

[@STUCUBE]

Tornado V3 Flagship

[@31Geo]

I wanted to become color-neutral, but when I saw yihang wang I realized that I do not need to be color-neutral to be super fast :/

[@Reptile359]

0:37 What is Yiheng doing there?

[@VivekViju-h2p]

Poking his nose

[@Reptile359]

@@VivekViju-h2p lol

[@Harrysun7]

Dual neutral for now.

[@fryng-phantom2020]

ok now, dont judge me but... i solve on green... i might try to add another colour, or i might try to be complitly colour nat

[@Michael_Lee1226]

i am sub 8 with just white

[@nivcubing]

same about both parts

[@MatewParraPerez]

nice vide bro! keep growing

[@weg7496]

I SERIOUSLY DONT GET HOW SOME CUBERS ARENT COLOR NUETRAL

[@STUCUBE]

Sorry bro, I would rather be doing solves and getting good times than tanking myself to learn new things and get better. This is why I’m really good at cubing

[@ReubenBBX]

lol@@STUCUBE

[@RWOT1M]

Green and orange was NOT simulere at all (im not cn btw)

[@KaelHitchcock]

he has deuteranopia lol

[@freerunopa]

I have more a personal question. Guys like you and jperm who are telling us how the cubers solve their cube in a competition, why is it that you aren't the world champion?

[@STUCUBE]

I would simply be too powerful if I used any of the techniques I explain. Just want to keep cubing interesting for everyone, ya know

[@freerunopa]

@@STUCUBE i understand, I just was kidding.

[@nasdfigol]

​@@STUCUBEdid the cubing devs nerf u

[@bruce4139]

they all have an A in their name

[@skansky__]

Being colour neutral is kind of a waste of time for me at least but do what you do

[@rogerpehrsson2128]

Good video. Thanks

[@ThatFastCuber]

What type of color blindness do you have? I personally have deuterium.

[@STUCUBE]

Same. I think that’s the most common

[@Button_Pushing]

Are you actually colorblind?

[@STUCUBE]

Yes, I’m green-red colorblind, typically it doesn’t have too much of an affect, but on some cubes the green and yellow look the same. I believe Mats Valk has the same color blindness

[@ThatCubeKidd]

@@STUCUBEI think with red green colourblindness, solving on blue cross would be easiest since mixing up red and green wouldn’t be much of an issue

[@square018]

White

[@otamota7563]

There are rumors that Yiheng is Dual Neutral on 2x2, and only does other colors if they are lucky 1-3 move faces. Reconstructions of his solves show he has a color bias to W/Y.