I froze doing a stall recovery | Pilot training! | stalls and rejected landing | Piper PA28

Power off stalls, power ON stall, rejected landings, touch and goes. Here's to just another day in the skies.

[@alphacharlieflies]

I noticed a few people saying the same thing about keeping your hand on the throttle. Ill say a short story. Im also a student but training on the c172. On the 172, you can adjust the stiffness of the throttle by turning a knob. So one time, i took off and took my right hand off the throttle and put it on the yoke. During the climb, the aircraft wasnt climbing as normal and i was slightly concerned. My instructor waited until i made a comment about the climb performance to tell me to check the throttle. I noticed the throttle had slid back during take off because it was loose. Ever since then, i always keep my hand on the throttle. Not sure if you can adjust the stiffness in the piper but good idea to keep your hand on the throttle for takeoff and landing anyways. Lol

[@barz1221]

Try and keep right hand on the throttle during landings, you never know when you’ll have to go around especially if you bounce the plane. Good job tho!

[@AlesiaKao]

Perfect! I’ll keep that in mind for the next flight :) thank you!!

[@Zack-ky7qf]

And during takeoff! Looking at this made me feel uneasy. Imagine the lever is loose and would go to idle during takeoff. That’s nothing ridiculous, it actually happens, that’s why you can tighten it. I’m surprised your flight instructor didn’t pay attention to that. Nice lesson !

[@AlesiaKao]

That’s awesome to know! Thanks so much for all the tips! It’s really nice learning all these small details to improve my flying 😊

[@thelastrebelshow1627]

@@AlesiaKaoI don’t think you’re cut out to be a pilot. Maybe a desk job or something.

[@chase3760]

I agree never take you hand off the throttle during landing and takeoff. Also when i learned to fly , on a touch and go leave flaps set until you have a positive rate of clime and the desired speed then take 1 notch out at a time until you are clean.

[@AlesiaKao]

Great! Thanks for the advice! What’s the reason for leaving the flaps set? Just general question for detail lol

[@Zack-ky7qf]

If you retract the flaps too early you might fall back on the runway. Retracting flaps reduces the lift generated. Wait till you are at least 500 ft above the ground and have a positive rate of climb. Once you are more experienced you can clean the plane during ground roll, some flights schools don’t teach it because it adds risk.

[@donlokbooha4972]

I feel the first comment may be a bit confusing. On a go around in the PA28, retract the first notch of flaps AFTER applying power. This is because flaps 40° in the PA28 provides a lot of drag that actually reduces your climb performance when going around. (This is a lot more apparent in other aircraft like C150's C172's... they barely climb with full power and full flaps) If you do it before applying power, then you're just getting rid of the extra lift that was previously keeping you from sinking. When you establish a positive rate of climb with flaps 25°, then slowly reduce the flaps as you accelerate. As for on touch and go's, retract the flaps after landing to the desired flap setting for the next takeoff.

[@wackoman544]

@@AlesiaKao you clearly didn't do enough groundschool if you have to ask that question. many pilots have died retracting flaps too early on go arounds

[@AlesiaKao]

Well I’m sorry for asking lol and no I actually have not gone to ground school. I just study for the written exam on my own and fly to get practice in

[@aeronaut1906]

Very good progression, nice! Remember that its better to be slightly high and slightly fast than low and slow! Fly it down and bleed off your energy

[@AlesiaKao]

Hey thanks so much for the support! I’m glad I’m making good progress through this journey! I’m still so shaky with landings, especially when to flare, but we’re working through it 😊❤️

[@aeronaut1906]

@@AlesiaKao You’ve got a great instructor

[@richardtruesdell8289]

The instructor had his hands on the yoke constantly.

[@bernardanderson3758]

During any takeoffs at any given moment always remember where your hands are on the power control!! The Piper Warrior is a great aircraft and what I’m seeing here is awesome flying . Next flight I look forward to it

[@AlesiaKao]

Thanks so much for the encouragement and support!!!

[@daleyingling4868]

THE CFI NEEDS TO KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF THE YOKE IN STALL RECOVERY UNLESS ITS A DIRE SITUATION.

[@glennwatson]

Ailerons neutral is what I've been taught, not off the yoke.

[@daleyingling4868]

@@glennwatson The CFI needs to keep his hands off the yoke...🤦‍♂️ not the student pilot.

[@glennwatson]

@@daleyingling4868 ah right Thankyou

[@ChrispyByDefault]

Everything is looking great! Keep on practicing and you will have that certificate before you know it.

[@AlesiaKao]

Thanks so much!!

[@BrianSiskind]

This is the toughest part of training... keep at it! Make it a goal to have your CFI not have his hands on the yoke. Be a fan of go arounds and love doing them. Hand on the throttle. Reps and reps! Good luck!

[@AlesiaKao]

Thanks sooo much for the support! Yeah i definitely see the progression from the first video i posted for flying 😀😀

[@BrianSiskind]

@@AlesiaKao good! I made a video about my landing struggles that I hope will help folks at this stage... might be helpful in a non-CFI way.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJC4daBqo5ytrtUsi=zLmg0sUIj6TeGaeU

[@majestic-skies]

Youre getting there! Im surprised you only lost 150 feet despite freezing up in the stall recovery. Once you get more practice with stalls youll be able to recover in 50-75 feet. The first landing attempt was pretty sketchy though not going to lie. Pretty sure the stall horn was starting to sound when you flared before you were even over the runway 😅 Try to aim to be just a little higher and further down the runway going forward. It takes time though. I've had some absolutely terrible landings as I was learning. Especially on my first couple solo flights since you're used to having an extra 200lbs on board.

[@AlesiaKao]

I need to look back at the video but i think i was learning rejected landings there! Regardless I appreciate the advice and definitely will need to practice 😂🙏landings are sooo shaky with me. I still have trouble knowing when to flare but I think over time I’ll get a better feel for it. Thank you soo much for the support!! Also stalls still scare me!! 😂

[@giovannimonchietto1863]

Be less shy on the rudder, use it! On the PA28 you dont need much compared to the PA15 I normally fly, but you still need to use it. I noticed you had some sideslip on landin, expecially if you plan to fly a taildragger you need to get the plane parallel to the centerline and you need rudder for that. Getting some glider lessons helps. Blue skyes!!

[@AlesiaKao]

Thank you for the tips! Will work on it more on my flight tomorrow ☺️ Blue skies! 🌌

[@justricardo]

i forget what the storm window max indicated is -- but it makes the cabin much quieter if you close it.

[@AlesiaKao]

Lol i usually close it but it’s a sauna inside that cabin sometimes

[@AndrewPeterson-nh4oj]

You don’t have the best instructor there. Using ailerons in a stall is dumb.