I Gave it a NOCTUA Upgrade, was it Worth it? | Zotac Magnus One Modification

I upgraded all the fans & the cooler to Noctua Coolers. Was it worth it and is it better?
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0:00 Intro
1:01 What's in the box?
2:48 Disassembly
3:29 Stock CPU cooler & CPU
4:15 Noctua Cooler Install
4:40 Weird discovery...
5:01 Noctua Cooler Install Continue
5:23 Trying to disassemble the PSU
6:11 They Don't want you to change the Cooler...
6:48 Case Fans Upgrade
8:55 Noctua Fan Duct Install
11:12 Assembly
12:29 First Turn ON
12:46 I had to repaste the Cooler
13:12 PC Noise Performance
13:47 Thermals: Upgrade vs Stock
17:02 Is the upgrade worth it?
17:31 IO Speed test results
19:19 Review of the PC
21:07 Who is this PC for?
23:11 Is this the best SFF Prebuilt PC?

[@Donphilipe2]

I done the upgrade to the NH-L9i on my Zotac as well + i used liquid metal instead cooling paste. For the top blowers it is also a help to remove the metalic mesh for more airflow. For the next step i will also use the fan duct for the heatsink. To the point with the low CPU perfomance, it is only a 65W CPU. With Intel Extreme Tuning Utility i peak the PL1 Limit to around 100W, max out the PL1 time to 128sec + PL2 limit to maximum, this is a nice boost in perfomance. In Cinnebench R23 you can get 11k points out of this little sucker but it will run hard into thermal throttling. With PL1 time and PL2 limit at default it will make 10,2k points @ around 80°C on the CPU with 100W PL1.

[@theTechNotice]

Nice!

[@Schiemanskie]

If you set this on the stock fan + thermal paste with about 1 year of service you will get around: -9,650 points -thermal throttling (permanently) -temp stuck at 87°C (t-junction max) -v-core will drop so low, that packade tdp will be around 100W, even when set higher -noisy system Wouldn't do it again and will upgrade to the noctua system as well.

[@karlcorrz]

XTU works on the i7 10700? I thought this chip is locked?

[@Donphilipe2]

@@karlcorrz its locked, but you can change the power limits

[@lilsdon]

I’ve got a Noctua in my rig for the last 11 years, sometimes the rig runs for days, never missed a beat, I only just before Xmas, cleaned the dust out, and there was loads, re done the thermal paste, running like new again, I’m getting a beast of a rig in 2 months, and asking for a Noctua for cooling, stuff the AOI’s Noctua ftw 🙌

[@theTechNotice]

😉👍

[@kokesjohn]

WOW !!! You absolutely nailed it for us ! 👍You took your time, focused on what was wrong on the Zotac, where were the bottlenecks, plus tips and tricks..little extra fresh paste, like better fan, what you could do, what you could not do..explaining ALL THE WAY 👌showed the proof with statistics of improvement and then FINAL summary recommendations = PERFECT. My humble suggestion NOW is to do some good research on ITX 2022 motherboards,2022 cpus, 2022 gpus, 2020 psus, 2022 coolers, and NEW small desk form factor cases, plus feedback from your global audience and CES 2022 announcements and then create the ULTIMATE and EXCITING small form factor (travel worthy) machine that will have 12th gen Intel, 2022 Intel Alchemist Arc gpu, 2022 ITX motherboards that have high speed lanes and ports so that ALL of US creators can pop on our desk with the beautiful small form factor yet still get MASSIVE results for our CREATOR projects (also to be in harmony with ATX form factor machine for BIGGER work flow projects). YES !!! 💥 MEGA thanks HUGE gratitude 🙏

[@theTechNotice]

Thanks for your nice comment! Appreciate your feedback! Little sneak peak: I've been doing massive research and contacting companies to build a really nice SFF PC for creators! ;)

[@gruziarz1423]

If you dont want to loose warranty, you can buy Thermalright AXP90-X36. Performance is very similiar to noctua, but you don't have to dissasembly the whole motherboard :)

[@MrSojek]

Can you close the lid with AXP90-X36 installed?

[@gruziarz1423]

@@MrSojek yes, it fits perfectly without any problems

[@gruziarz1423]

@@MrSojek jak masz jakieś pytania to napisz na maila, masz podane u mnie w opisie

[@ramzyjin]

i do what u said and iam grateful for your advice because its true

[@summerbreeze5115]

Baka! Go for Noctua NH-U12S It's a beast

[@virksim9864]

Make sure to use the correct amount of thermal paste, which is roughly the size of a pea or a grain of rice. An insufficient amount might not cover the surface area needed in order to be effective. Too much reduces the efficacy of the paste, due to the metal surfaces being too far apart, and also risks spilling out onto the motherboard during installation.

[@PietFox2000]

Für allediejenigen die wie im Video gezeigt wurde, die Gehäuselüfter tauschen wollen, gibt es von Noctua eine wesentlich günstere und dennoch identische Lösung. Der Kollege verwendet in dem Video die Noctua Chromax NF A9 14 und zusätzlich hat er sich ein Set an Y Kabeln von Noctua kaufen müssen, um alle Lüfter über den einzigen Anschluss auf dem Mainboard verbinden zu können. Ja nun: Wenn Mr. Tech Notice die braunen Noctua AF9 14 anstatt der Chromax Variante genutzt hätte, hätte er nicht nur ca. 5 Euro weniger pro Lüfter bezahlt (Das Gehäuse hat ohnehin kein Fenster) Nein er hätte auch die Y Kabel für lau dabei gehabt, da das beiliegende Zubehör bei der braunen Variante üppiger ausfällt. Ein Tipp noch von mir, da ich selber die Magnus One besitze: Es ist wirklich besser man kauft sich die braunen Lüfter, pupt dennoch auf die Y Kabel, da man sich lieber zwei sogenannte PWM Adapter für VGA Kabel kaufen sollte, damit man die getauschten Gehäuselüfter wieder an der Stelle anschließen kann wo auch die Orignalen Lüfter angeschlossen waren. Das hat den immensen Vorteil, dass man dann die Lüftersteuerung wieder normal verwenden kann und nicht alles vom CPU Tempsensor gesteuert wird. Es würden bei Last sonst alle Lüfter gleichzeitig hochdrehen, was natürlich unnötig und besch... ist und die Lautstärke unnötig nach oben treibt. Als CPU Kühler habe ich den Coolmaster G200P eingebaut und dieser ist echt zu empfehlen. Dann muss auch übrigens kein Garantiesiegel wie im Video gezeigt und gesagt wird zerstört werden, sondern man kann ganz einfach die Orignalen Bohrungen ohne eine Backplate verwenden. Ich bin übringens von der Zotac Magnus One begeistert. Ansonsten stecken noch 64 Gb 2999Mhz Ram und ne 2 TB 980 Pro mit Heatsink in dem Gerät. Habt ihr fragen, dann meldet euch gern. Das Video ist übringens super und hat mich zum Kauf der Magnus One überhaupt erst bewegt. Mein Kommentar soll bitte als Tipp und nicht als Kritik gesehen werden. Es kann auch sein dass sich das Zubehör zwischenzeitlich geändert hat, das Video hat ja auch schon paar Tage auf dem Buckel.

[@KurtKoslowski]

Danke für Deine tollen Tipps! Eine Frage hätte ich gern, wenn Du antworten möchtest: die Lüfter NF-A4x20 PWM und NF-A4x10 PWM hat er bestellt, aber gar nicht verwendet, oder?

[@PietFox2000]

@@KurtKoslowski hi, hast recht. ich habe auch nirgends gesehen wie er sie verbaut hat. Das integrierte Netzteil hat aber so einen Lüfter. Ich vermute das für den Umbau jedoch lötarbeiten notwendig wären und der Lautstärken Vorteil gering bis gar nicht vorhanden wäre. Das müsste übrigens ein nf a4 x 20 gewesen sein. Die erste Zahl steht für den Durchmesser, hier a4 = 40mm und x20 = 20 mm Tiefe.

[@KurtKoslowski]

@@PietFox2000 Du bist echt ein klasse Typ, danke für Deine Antwort! Ja, das Netzteil hat er sich angeschaut und dann wieder so wie es war im Rechner gelassen. Das war anscheinend nicht die Problematische Geräuschquelle. Danke nochmal für deine super Tipps!

[@PietFox2000]

@@KurtKoslowski Gern :-) ;-) Ja genau. Manche Besitzer (Ich zum Glück nicht) haben jedoch mit der Magnus One eine Art Spulenfiepen was von der Netzteilverkabelung ausgeht. Ich glaub irgend ein Graphitkern der bei manchen Modellen Geräuche macht. Es gibt ein japanisches Video hier auf KZbin in dem dieser Defekt beseitigt wird. Wenn ich mich recht erinnere musste man da nur eine Stelle an dem Graphitkern bisschen zusammendrücken und abkleben oder klemmen. Der Netzteillüfter macht einen guten Job in dem Gerät, daher gut das er den nicht gewechselt hat. Schönen Abend noch :-)

[@KurtKoslowski]

@@PietFox2000 Danke! Ich hab eben nochmal das Gehäuse geöffnet und intensiv gelauscht - zum Glück bin ich ebenfalls vom Spulenfiepen verschont. Aber gut zu wissen, was man dann dagegen tun kann, danke :) Hab einen guten Rutsch und danke für alles :)

[@YarRegVideo]

I only replaced the cpu cooler. It is responsible for most of the noise. I really don't like the quiet rustling of the power supply cooler. But I don't know how to replace it. But the standard coolers of the top cover of the case do not make any significant noise at all

[@mest9295]

On my Zotac I installed a 10900f and works without any problem. and instead the noctua (unfortunately I had problem to remove the motherboard from the pc) I used the cooler master gp200 which can be installed without losing warranty. Now works very well, I have only some coil whine from the psu

[@mindfulcreations-focusmedi1240]

I hope that all of you out there searching for meaningful things receive them this new year! Happy New Year 🎆

[@ghostfoxxx]

Good Morning, NICE VIDEO! CAN you help to know how change the power supply model? what model have on PSU and how to order / upgrade that? Please.

[@draganjovancevic4740]

I undervolted my cpu (-0.1 core and -0.09 cache/ you need an adapted bios, google it) and disabled turbo. Replaced stock cpu cooler with a thermalright. It is basically ailent for office use. Prime 95 running for hours at 55^C. I will replace top two fans with noctuas for gaming. Thanks for your work!

[@karlcorrz]

can you provide a youtube tutorial about the bios mod? couldnt find the right bios in google. If you could also link me some forums or guides or the downloads that would be great. cheers

[@johnsmith-gs4qf]

Noctua makes very high quality coolers. I like using Scythe coolers because they are also high quality, but are cheaper price (Scythe Mugen 5 $49.99 on amazon)

[@KC2Lucky]

I like the Scythe cuz of the Mugen name. Mugen Motorsports ftw

[@nss490]

THANK YOU! I just completed this upgrade. My life quality will be much higher now, without the Zotac helicopter next to me. Again, thank you!

[@IamPidugu]

That’s a detailed presentation at its best. It would be great if you could also let us know the feasibility of fitting an liquid cooler for the cpu. Where in the tower fans will be replaced with the radiator of the liquid cooler. So, it would be just two fans overall. Thanks.

[@theTechNotice]

Unfortunately you can't use a liquid cooler in thus case, unless custom made.

[@josetrejos9490]

I did the same upgrades on my Magnus One! (Except for the fan ducts which I did not know exist, but I'm getting ones now!) I wish this video was out when I did it, I was scared to death to mess something up and had no idea how to disassemble it! I got the same results, it's a little hotter but better performance. To get better cooling I got some external fans which are pretty quiet and get the CPU temps down to 60 - 70 even under heavy load. Great video!!

[@theTechNotice]

Thanks for that addition!

[@josetrejos9490]

@@amysheldon8252 Hello! Sure, I got the AC Infinity S5 fans from Amazon, they are pretty quiet and effective. They come with a small holder you can stick to the fans, you can use them to tie the fans into position, but mine came with only one for both fans, so I could not do it that way. Instead I placed straps on the sides of the case which hold them in position. KZbin does not let me paste the amazon link nor the pictures here so let me know if you want me to send them to you somewhere else.

[@amysheldon8252]

@@josetrejos9490 You may share the photos through imgbb, I would like to see how you have set it up. I found this one amazon - AC Infinity MULTIFAN S5 Quiet Dual 80mm USB Fan for Receiver DVR Playstation Xbox Computer Cabinet Cooling Is it the same you are using? And how is your thermals and noise levels? Thanks again for your help. :)

[@josetrejos9490]

@@amysheldon8252 Yes, those are the ones. Temps on the CPU went down from around 80C while iddle to around 60C while iddle. On the GPU temps, the external fans did not make any difference. It's always around 80C. The external fans are as quiet as the Noctua, maybe even quieter, even on the max speed. However, the real source for noise in this computer is the GPU fans, those are loud!!! You can deal with this by installing MSI Afterburner and setting a small undervolt on the GPU, after that my computer got whisper quiet and reduced the GPU temps as well. I uploaded the images to imgbb but KZbin doesn't let me put URLs in the comments, so just go to the imgbb site and paste the following after the slash / to see them: x7zycLn 3CkdsYR dBzqzSC

[@amysheldon8252]

@@josetrejos9490 Thanks for sharing the pics. Any temp drop will actually benefit performance so I am gonna give it a try.

[@jimfonzie2887]

Hi everyone. I did replace my CPU fan with a Noctua NH-L9i and the PC is totally silent without additional setup. Compared to the old version there is no comparison.

[@AlFaisal_]

i like this channel so great !!

[@AirGunWeb]

On the motherboard and ram not seeing xmp.. try some ram that runs at 3200 with 1.2v. This happens on a lot of laptops. You won't get fast timings, most 1.2 will be CL22ish, but you can give it a try. Cheers Rick

[@andrewkosenko2757]

Noctua coolers will actually be higher speeds i think. As motherboard will supply the same amount of juice, and this fan is rated to 2.1, it will spin a tiny bit faster than the stock one.

[@adityadivine9750]

Damn you took too much of your time for this video. Appreciate it

[@theTechNotice]

😇👍 thanks for noticing!

[@GameGearZero]

you can unloch the bios to set vcore and pl1 and pl2, with stock settings it geht to hot and uses way too much vcore

[@denisj32]

everything you change positive than it works better and good in 2022

[@MrunalKapadia]

Awesome video covering the essential upgrades for this system !!! One question - for the two 92mm fans on top of the case, will the 25mm height version suitable or we need a slim 14mm version ?

[@theTechNotice]

I think you need the slimmer ones!

[@Draganski]

Disable turbo boost and set the cpu frequency to ~2800mhz in windows power management settings. Silent system for office work. Games run also much quieter.

[@ramzyjin]

how

[@Kekeripo]

I would have turned the cooler 90°, so the fin orientation doesn't blast hot air in to the ram. It's not about cooking the ram, it's just a flow restriction that doesn't sit right with me.

[@theTechNotice]

Good point!

[@smartinussen]

I got the Magnus One 4070 and went ahead to order these exact same parts as for the mod in this video. It seems like they have changed the motherboard to a custom fan solution, as the holes for the cpu fan mount does not align up with the Nocuta OR BeQuiet fans. The mounting frame and motherboard has non-standard holes, and I'm not sure if they align with another socket standard or is just proprietary. Will be returning the fans unfortunately, but managed to update the thermal paste which has already given results.

[@sly2k]

did you follow up on this ? or measure the distance of the holes? if its known then a suitable cooler could be found.

[@suspiciouscarrot8403]

Just changed the CPU cooler, I have to say, it's made so much of a difference that I'm not even going to bother changing the top fans.

[@TheTjark57]

What cooler did you get?

[@sly2k]

which one did you get ? and for the newest version with the 4070? did you also change the case coolers?

[@suspiciouscarrot8403]

@@TheTjark57 I got the one linked in the video

[@suspiciouscarrot8403]

@@sly2k I have the 3070 version, the only cooler I changed was the CPU cooler, and the fan noise has been lowered dramatically. Right now, I don't really see any reason to change the top fans and I think the power supply fans are not able to be changed. The cooler I got was the one linked in the description

[@jimmorrison1031]

Haha the way hes putting psu back. All these power cables..., no screw that!

[@theTechNotice]

That's how they were I there, return to its 'natural' state haha

[@gokhanozcan2991]

Thanks for the great detailed video! I would like to ask for two things: I just want to understand if the stock chassis fans are the real noise makers or not and would it worth to deal with all that hassle to replace them? When I disconnect them I do not notice a change in the overall noise. And, did you deal with the weird noise coming from PSU like the fan leaf is hitting a cable? Happens to me when pressing start while there is a game running. Gets noisier depending on the size of the window. Thanks in advance!

[@theTechNotice]

It was more like the CPu cooler that made the noise, the stock fans were quite noisy as well, but not bad. After moving the PSU cables around I haven't got the same PSU coilwind noise anymore, so not quite sure where that noise came from...

[@josetrejos9490]

In my case, the real noise makers were the CPU cooler and the GPU fans. The Noctua upgrade took care of the CPU one, but the GPU fans still yell back at you when you give them some real work hah

[@gokhanozcan2991]

I went with the Thermalright AXP90-X36 option and after a month of testing, I am quite satisfied with the results. Not risking the warranty is a big plus as it is compatible with the stock backplates.

[@AristhaCh]

@@gokhanozcan2991 Does it worth? I am sure it's also noisy but overall noise is important after replacing with thermalright cooler.

[@gokhanozcan2991]

​@@AristhaCh In terms of fan noise, there is a huge difference between stock fans and anything else, I would say. For my case, Thermalright AXP90-X36 was the ultimate solution, definitely worthy. When running idle or not-so-demanding applications/games and with some fan threshold adjustments from BIOS, it is hardly noticeable that it is powered on. And under load, the noise is bearable. Another major take away is, it handles ramping up way more smoothly compared to the stock fan. However, for a tiny design like this, a room silence in any case would not be a reasonable expectation.

[@willlopez8904]

I feel like that 7mm spacer is a waste of cooling potential. Maybe could've fit a bigger cooler or at least a full sized fan for better cooling. Nice build nonetheless,. Thumbs up from me! Cheers!

[@levinste2750]

Can the Zotac Magnus One w/ RTX3070 run on 8k - 60 Hz ? No gaming, no video editing. Only web browsing, KZbin

[@user-mb9zd3oo7h]

Very nice video. But why it is not possible to upgrade this pc using 11 gen of Intel cpu's? 1200 socket should fit for 10 and 11 gens, isn't it?

[@lismyname3640]

Thanks for your video. Might i ask somethin- if we go for cpu change- 10400f as an example- will cpu processor temperatures will be much less? Tbh i have a great fear, when i see more than 70-75 degrees on it so im considering buy that platform for 10400f, but im not really sure if it wont be pretty common thermal results with 10700f (with noctua cooler of course, stock cooler in my opinion is too weak). Waiting patiently at your opinion

[@albanofabio2407]

Hello ! What's the better choice ? This for 1200 euros or the Intel Nuc 9 Extreme i7-9750h with a Asus Rtx 3060 ti for 1050 euros ? Both brand new and without ram and storage. Thanks

[@martinrini8952]

Hi Sir, I have a Zotac Magnus One i5 3060, playing Forza Horizon 5, it suddenly shut down and won't turn on again. Can help with this problem. TQ

[@ilasithiotakis6159]

Hi mate. Awesome upgrade. I‘d love to see you try the 10 core CPU. I’m considering of buying the Zotac, for a few reasons. Meanly size and value. So I’m very interested in all upgrade capabilities. Another question I have is, what ram would you suggest getting for it? Thanks for the all the effort! And greetings from Greece 🤘🏼

[@theTechNotice]

Try any RAM like crucial or teamgroup that runs 2997MT/s. :)

[@new2f7]

Can you tell which chipset they use? Is it better do by dual rank or single rank RAM for this PC?

[@teestarr_]

Which upgrade do you see as necessary and which is only nice to have?

[@RebelBit70]

hi, any of you know if the zotac shut down at 90ºc limit on bios, i have any days with it and power off automatically two times but i dont know why? normally bad memory think thar reset the pc , but not power off. really i dont know if power off at 90c because when enter to bios the temperature are low. thanks

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[@TheAvgJoeVlog]

Liquid metal would be a great option for this

[@onsports319]

Can you custome water cooling for zotac magnus one?

[@tessie4204]

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[@Pannenkoek75]

Not possible with the latest 4070.

[@sacmis19]

What size graphics card does it accept? Since I have an XFX AMD Radeon RX 580 GTS and I don't know if it's compatible, could you help me?

[@aleks_moldi]

U get a 3070 in it? Why would u wantt o downgrade?

[@sacmis19]

@@aleks_moldi i want to buy second hand from someone that buy it only for the graphic and sell only the Zotac without graphic card

[@rizzen6066]

Can you get this case anywhere

[@sonipramod94]

Does it support 5.1 audio channels

[@Holger_Schneider]

Hi, i love that little Beast even it could be a bit better. I just ordered it for 1500 Bucks. You may want to take a look at the msi Prestige 100x wich runs an i9-11900K and the RTX3080 with a small form-factor-Case. Would love your thoughts on that. Cheers and Happy new Year!

[@theTechNotice]

Thanks! I'll go check out the MSI Prestige! :)

[@LeicaM11]

Never ever put your PC onto the desktop. It goes under the table, much quiter😅

[@ibdustin15]

Why not use the 5600x

[@dhanlakshmibhatt5871]

Tech notice is da man I'm not a bot pls respond

[@theTechNotice]

😉👍

[@jihlnabaat6329]

10900 k or f?

[@KC2Lucky]

very cool, but the 10th gen is what turns me away from this build.

[@theTechNotice]

Indeed a good point, hopefully they'll do a refresh with the 12th gen :)

[@icaicciai3171]

@@theTechNotice Newer can be more expensive? Do you think it is still worth to purchase it in Q1 2022?

[@igwarden5404]

Can you put an i9 10900 in ?

[@theTechNotice]

Yes

[@igwarden5404]

@@theTechNotice thank you for fast reply !

[@osy7368]

Its possible to upgrade the psu? It will be good with the rtx 4070?

[@Deadlinepanic]

Waste of money for little gain... A simple (and free) case mod will get you to 58-60C under full load on stock fans and cooler.

[@johnathansmith1003]

The minute you see thermal throttling you know it was a failure.

[@RAINQ1]

Its working with 10900 ;) 65w ;P 😜.

[@theTechNotice]

Nice! I wish I had it :)

[@fpsoundpacks]

I get the information out of your video but way too many cuts man! This makes people crazy. Don't be afraid people get boring while watching without all that 10 seconds music changes and action video cuts and zoomes 😉

[@estate-tidus1007]

A brown box for an over priced turd but that 1-2 degrees are worth 30-40$ more!!!!!!!!!!!

[@HorusLuperc]

So dissapointed with this Zotac :( unbelievable how ridiculously noisy it is.

[@theTechNotice]

Yeah, stock is pretty noisy hence NOCTUA 😇

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Hi sir this Is Jogendra from INDIA ! I am big fan of you. I watching your youtube channel daily updates ; Sir Small favor to me :- favor was 1500 dollars in suggest to make pc Build ( Premiere Pro, Photoshop & After Effects, 4k Video Editing ) please respond waiting your reply sir. I'm trusting your vision to make a Best pc for me. "Save my Money"

[@RustedFaith]

Simply buy a used HP Workstation, HP Z640, or Z840 (can be upgraded up to 44 cores !) or if you have little more money go for Z4 or Z6 workstation, they normally come with good Quadro cards such as P2200 or P4000 can easily handle 4k edits...