STOP DOING THIS!!!!!!!

I've completely had it with people posting Steve's video about AIO mounting when its clear they didn't even WATCH his video... STOP IT!
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[@methodmantis3060]

"Idiot's guide", you say? You have my attention...

[@hunterr.w.8297]

@Ziv Zulander I am offended, but also very much so agree.

[@whiskizyo2067]

But only briefly

[@TheHuskyK9]

I am an idiot when it comes to computers, so this is the perfect guide for me 👌👌

[@Joreel]

I know that I know just enough to get by but still be an idiot when it comes to building computers. I use to build them, but it's been 15 years since I build one as I moved over to a laptop for convenience. Now that I want a desktop one, the tech has really changed so I'm kinda lost. I'm glad there are tech guys like Jay that can help me do it right the first time so I don't have to pull things out a do it again.

[@PrincePawn]

He called us an idiot and we still watched the video.. we in a cult now 🤣

[@hutzdani87]

Jay - Can you hear the motor humm ? Editor - Fuck this, let's play music in the background

[@raymondmills4830]

So true 😔

[@wildgrem]

came to say the exact same thing.

[@beaxt3655]

That’s exactly what I was thinking

[@Raythe]

how dare you disrespect Phil like that.

[@KNGER1988]

I actually thought I had something else playing in the back ground I was so confused

[@LuckyGnom]

16:09 This is what you here for.

[@thecookalejandro]

thank you

[@DavePianist]

u r a hero

[@montgomeryjohnson5964]

Lmao thank you 😂

[@msprhh]

THX!!!!

[@aaronnester5132]

Thank you! For someone saying that someone else's video was too long, he should have watched this before uploading it.

[@Donman5]

I just bought my first AIO for my next build and this was IMMENSLY helpful! Thanks for laying this out so well! :) 👍

[@voidstellar5770]

same here

[@xtremetech4190]

me too

[@alienzone1954]

best way cus top is the exost port and back so ur heting it up a little i say in front for cool air intake but up side down so air is on top and liwied and hose on bottom and if u payed over 200 to 300 and ur pump cant pump a foot up then its trash cus i deal with pumps all time and depending on size thay all ment to pump up but some like small one only ment to pump a foot up for like a small water founting or somthing like that or even a aio

[@PatJones82]

Same here.

[@camotech1314]

Yeah I just fitted my first AIO in the last 2 days and even though it's at the top with an inlet pump I wanted to watch this again.

[@Setupexe13]

Me learning about evaporation in AIO's, while looking down at my AIO that's in use since 2011...

[@sMv-Afjal]

Which aio you have? Its is running fine since a decade, and its fine?

[@Setupexe13]

@@sMv-Afjal It's the stock AIO that came with my processor, the AMD FX 8150.

[@vh9network]

Yeah I have a coupled dirt cheap ebay used 120mm AIOs that are definitely 6+ years old now and they still operate fine. One of them a Corsair H50 (converted to H55 for AMD) I used to this day to cool my R5 3600. It's as good as the Wraith Prism (an already overkill air-cooler for a R5 3600) I was using set to High without the loud noise that it brought. Only thing I modified was replacing the Corsair 120mm fan with a Thermaltake ToughFan 12 so there was zero fan vibration noise.

[@sMv-Afjal]

Thanks, here I was thinking aio are not reliable at all.

[@Setupexe13]

@@Stephain Yeah it's definitely still holding up today. With most modern games it's actually my graphics card that's the bottle neck (GTX 960). But I will have to wait to replace that one until the whole market has calmed down again.

[@vryce6322]

Jay needs to make a Shirt that reads "Steve can explain it to you, but I can't understand it for you."

[@vinylwalk3r]

YES!

[@innocence1958]

Yes

[@jirosaves_theworld]

YES

[@FcoEnriquePerez]

Stop with this bullshit lol Steve video even had graphs, plexi glass so everyone could see the flow, everything that makes it easier than this video which is just Jay rambling and even missing the point of the glexi cut. Steve video is just kinda long, nothing too difficult, people just have the attention spam of a fish, like Buildzoid says.

[@yahgent]

@@FcoEnriquePerez you ruined the yes chain you bodacious barbarian

[@ztmsdk5053]

Video too long, instructions not clear. Cooler now pregnant.

[@RedRainMerc]

Glad I'm not the only one that got my cooler pregnant

[@manaroth2779]

Pregananat!?!?

[@kellyjackson1451]

You must have used the wrong thermal compound. Use an anti static matt and latex gloves. Remember not to cross the streams. That would be bad.

[@RedRainMerc]

@@kellyjackson1451 shit that's why then. Well the Cooler ended up leaving me and sued me for child support. 2024 getting wild

[@exxor9108]

hw is aio pregrt?

[@cjhan47]

3 years later and for my first AIO install I installed it tubes top. Watched Steves video and imediatly changed it to tubes bottom. The man is brilliant and when it comes to this type if thing I dont know anyone better to take advice from.

[@iKayorei]

Same, I went from top mounted to side mounted with tubes up and I started getting this slight pump noise and it got progressively louder over time.

[@vcaalnu34]

16:11 You're welcome.

[@changedytaccount5539]

lol thanks

[@Tiddlez117]

Steve: Watch the entire video! Johan: ...

[@azkikr3000]

Just got my loop yesterday was still wondering...until this! Thanks Johan!

[@MrBtown101]

a man for the people

[@AFwitchdoctor]

KING

[@wotan91]

8:18 - You hear motor humm? No, I hear 80's hip hop beat.

[@landonorloski7393]

I wish the music cut out when that happened.

[@Ragnorok64]

I do kind of wish the music was cut for this part, too. I'm wondering if that's a consequence of this video possibly being edited with headphones. Considering they've been pumping out a video a day, with a 3 man crew, for this whole month I'm not going to sweat it

[@racso5628]

Thank you! I was literally about to comment and ask why they would put music during a part where they want us to hear a difference in sounds.

[@earthtaurus5515]

@@Ragnorok64 Then why not use headphones for that part 😋. I'm just being facetious lol as it's 3 am here although it was audible over speakers - it was just barely at the volume on my mini amp at the lowest setting (PC, KZbin and Browser volume at 100%). The sound also depends on the quality of the headphones too so if a person has crappy headphones they won't have much luck. It'd be best for Phil to just cut out the music for similiar scenarios in the future.

[@PrincePawn]

Same.. going to get my eyes tested tomorrow

[@bigdaddy101703]

I'm so glad I watched both videos. They work together to make the complete picture. I now understand more and I get what both of you are saying much better now. Thanks!

[@HansensUniverseT-A]

Same applies to custom water cooling, i placed my pump unit in the basement of the case, sits lower than all the other components, this also helps with feeding it, i recommend people to get a large reservoir if you can, gravity helps a lot with feeding the pump instead of having the pump potentially having to suck liquid. Been using the same D5 pump unit for almost a decade, hardly has to do any work at all to move the coolant around my big tower with a triple rad on top.

[@Venerable_Banana]

The teachings of Tech Jesus is beyond the comprehension of many people.

[@Supplice4]

We needed a Tech Mesiah to understand his teachings

[@iamnotagoat66]

these people live with the curse of Babel, they dont understand the holy tech scriptures that he preaches

[@jesusrosales6888]

@@Supplice4 but jesus is the Messiah

[@IanHsieh]

So Jay is the Tech Pope? 🤭

[@seanlawler9678]

Just like the real jesus

[@JethroRose]

the short short version “air rises”

[@joshstanton267]

No it doesn't, fuuuuuu 😂👍

[@thealien_ali3382]

My butt

[@codied93]

My D- in physics says otherwise

[@souljastation5463]

Nah, it's water that drops.

[@Kyss007]

But Steve said

[@jedaiahkramer1204]

Thanks for this video Jay! I built my first PC in 2005, my next in 2014, and now my third in 2023(but 1st water-cooled cpu). I'm a DIYer who likes to consider all possibilities and understand them so that I can 'get it right' for my application. So, I read a bunch of articles & watched many videos on AIO water cooler positioning. Yours was the best combination of science, fabrication, & practical application that I came across. My main take-away: A radiator mounted to the top of the case is best. It keeps any 'system air' in a shallow layer which is less likely to impede liquid flow and continues to allow maximum heat dispersion. (IF my case didn't allow it, I'd do a front or side mount ... ensuring the hose & pump remain lower than the highest point of the radiator. Good to understand the pros, cons, and key factors in this option.)

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

the sleeve does not stop permeation from the lines at all from happening💀💀

[@SepticFuddy]

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue I'm not sure why you think anyone is saying that. It doesn't stop permeation but it does help prevent abrasion causing a critical failure. It also serves as a minor heat shield

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

@@SepticFuddy well true but it's like the braided stainless steel rubber hose lines they have on the water lines at work and the boss is like there steel lines how can they leak like that and I have to tell him the steel braiding only stops the line from snapping off when it ruptures but it's not water proof so when the rubber line inside ruptures it still leaks so there are people that think the braiding should stop leakage when it does not it does help with abrasion but that is about it

[@SepticFuddy]

@@SaraMorgan-ym6ue Yeah it's a bit silly that you have to explain that a braided material doesn't stop fluid lol

[@faithtroupe8998]

I legit was going to change out my AIO and it def helped that you used the same one that i have currently. I thought something was wrong with it and turns out that the sound (of an old drain) that im hearing is probablly just air staying in the top. Very clear and easy explation, thank you.

[@mini-_]

Can't wait for someone else to do a TL;DW for this video, for the world's craziest telephone game.

[@MaksKCS]

In a couple of years the conclusion will be that the bottom spot is the best

[@iamnotagoat66]

itll become a meme at that point. then comes the meta tiers...

[@PEZ1514]

Content leaching is youtubes best game for second tier creators

[@notbydesign3316]

*paging Linus*

[@Ravenousjoe]

I nominate Linus, then Kyle needs to do a TL:DW of the TL:DW of the TL:DW.

[@M00NM0NEY]

I want Jay to read toxic comments with his derpy voice. Then respond thoroughly on how they are wrong. I think it’ll provide for great content

[@rogerpettersson89]

I agree 😀@ JayzTwoCents

[@onatgz]

i want him to read all the comments with his derpy voice. news too. normal conversations too.

[@nemtudom5074]

Yes!

[@bothellkenmore]

LOL, sorta like Jimmy Kimmel's mean tweets.

[@mulichy4882]

Thank you! I literally just saw Steve’s in depth video last night and did like you said skipped to the end and thought I had my aio mounted wrong. I was dreading the work involved with reorienting my radiator. Thanks for clearing this up!

[@ChrisCCou812]

Thank you very much for this informative video! I am getting ready to build my first water cooled system and have been going crazy trying to find simple information regarding the best way to set it up. I would really prefer to do a custom loop but decided to go with an AIO for this build and was going insane thinking I had forgotten how fluid dynamics work when watching some other videos.

[@sirius4k]

"Lets talk about orientation." I'm straight, Jay.

[@tonyradle8747]

@Joshua Steele Hell id do it for a 3080

[@blindaceg]

@Joshua Steele Deal

[@fourtwenty5986]

I'm straight too. But if there is a really hot girl that just so happen to have a D, I don't think I would mind.

[@kjellrni]

The radiator obviously swings both ways.

[@budgetbajur]

@@fourtwenty5986 Lady Sylvia enthusiast

[@lordsqueak]

Misinterpreting the words of Jesus, sounds like an age old problem. *sigh*

[@Clockwork-Shadow]

Truly is. You can give someone the exact lifepath to success, and they can still somehow misinterpret your instructions.

[@defsoul641]

This! This is literally the only comment required to describe ANYTHING about this generation on the internet.

[@chloedevereaux1801]

paaahaaahaaaaaaa. your comment is hilarious... you mean misinterpreting the words re written over a thousand years in a tacky novel by many different people and religions to suit there own needs..........

[@Thund3rstone]

@@defsoul641 This comment told us in a funny and elegant way it is NOT a generation problem, but the mis-interpreting problem has been around for 2000 years. Different interpretation´of original information (of Jesus) has been already started by the apostles within the same generation back then (pun intended). And up to today you can find spin doctors fighting wars about semantics. Using this for generation bashing is unfair. (EDIT replaced flame phrase).

[@defsoul641]

@@Thund3rstone Yea its been around for a long time but I said on the internet and on the internet it is 2000 times worse than 2000 years ago

[@shanekwilson648]

I just finished building my second custom pc and I've watched a handful of your videos. Really appreciate the way you explain things. Thanks!

[@Gr1dSh7ftR]

Just watched steves video, then this right after. Now i feel even more comfortable in my understanding. Steves video was great, but the wealth of information he provided really needed a simplified breakdown synapsis for the conclusion to provide clarity for those of us who arent wizards but are capable of learning this information. Thanks to the both of you!

[@oki7716]

Music plays in the background... Jay: Do you hear the motor humm?

[@mrkushke9934]

Lol I was thinking the same thing. The editor should have qued in there

[@ZeykronZ]

Just raise the volume. You can hear it clearly

[@JiaNaDaRen15]

I can hear it clearly while Jay is screaming in my ear. They should have killed the music. I shouldn't have to crank the volume.

[@MrMurdock86]

Steve:*explains thoroughly the science and process for ‘standard’ AIOs and positioning* Jay: PAY ATTENTION, CHILDREN!!

[@mottorider2371]

This the one :D lol. Gotta love going to Daddy Jay lmao

[@sakatababa]

jay just keeps spewing nonsense. i'm a marine engineer. fluid dynamics and thermodynamics are, literally, my favourite topics outside of pure physics. and i did got my degree in the past millennia but physics of those hasn't changed from the big bang so i bet you my knowledge is still usable. tubes on the top are bad because air gets trapped in the entrance of the radiator so there is lower flux of thermal energy. that causes building of heat in the pump, translation of that heat to gasses in the connector of the radiator. gasses expand more readily in the heat then liquids so bubbles get thrown about the circulatory system and air gets logged in the radiator and the pump. heated gasses get more permiation from tubes that introduces more gas in the system. more gas gets in the radiator and the pump. you want the thermal isolator (air) in the end of the system and not at the choke, flux or critical point of ingress like the radiator connector. we build literal traps for gasses above connectors of critical systems to avoid anything but perfect transition of maximum flow calculated by bernoulli equation. i just couldn't watch the "you think this or that" attitude and then going on some tangent. either get on the topic or don't make the video, jay.

[@faceplants2]

@@sakatababa How would air bubbles in the barb (hose) end of the radiator impact dissipation of heat? Unless the high point of the loop is @ the pump/ water block, there will be little if any impact to flow volume. The downside of having a radiator mounted vertically with the hoses at the top is that air bubbles gather by the two tanks the barbs connect to and can lead to water trickling sounds and what some customers might confuse for pump whine. The most important thing to avoid with a closed loop setup is having the water block/pump at a higher level than the top of the radiator. This can cause a big enough air bubble that the pump can't move water at all (or enough to cool the system). If the impeller isn't a magnetic levitation style, it can also destroy the pump if it's not getting water for lubrication. Closed loop AIO coolers for desktop PCs don't deal with the coolant temperatures or pressures you may be familiar with. Water temps over 50° C are pretty rare.

[@sakatababa]

@@faceplants2 if you remember your bernoulli equation for flow dynamics, reduced diameter to pipe introduces buffeting that introduces cavitation that introduces more bubbles. also, reduces pressure past choke poin, increases pressure before choke point. turbulent flow is bad, very very bad. ever heard your water pipes vibrate when you turn the faucet too hard. yeah, that thing. air is thermal isolator. bad for conducting. no bueno. should be avoided in critical ingress points. creating a pocket of hot liquid coming from conductive point (the hottest point in the system) before it gets to the radiator (the cooling element) is superb sabotage. it traps heat in an isolator (plastic pipe) and just keeps piling on, changes flow dynamics (in and of itself, that is secondary to the choke) and reduces thermal conductivity of the plate (like plugging exhaust in the car engine, same thing). while i did work on systems from -40C to +320C most of my experience is with 10C-70C. and 24 years of building pc's tells me it is in the right ball park. just because i have an egineering degree does not mean i don't have extensive knowledge of computer systems. on the contrary, i currently work a cushy job as unix engineer in devops role for a major cable company. better pay, flexible hours, i get to live with my family and not some15 other guys for months at a time on a floating can. it is a water/glycol mixture. it does change some physical properties of the liquid (like surface lubrication, thermal expansion, etc). and temperature over 50C isn't rare. non-idle cpu goes readily over that mark. and liquid needs to heat up to transfer that heat away from the cpu to the radiator to, well, radiate it in ambient air. system works not with introducing cold liquid but with taking heat away. i should've been more verbose the first time and just get it over. heck, a copy/paste would suffice...

[@faceplants2]

@@sakatababa I couldn't make it through your entire post. I would appreciate some brevity in the future. The phenomenon you're describing is water hammer. I'm still dubious as to whether you are as well versed in this subject as you propose to be because you are emphasizing things that are of trivial nature in the context of closed loop desktop, PC liquid cooling solutions. Whatever systems you were familiar with working on, surely you acknowledge that context, constraints and application are key

[@edselcrake5583]

Absolutely, Spot on. Fantastic video and simplest explanation of air rising to the highest position of the installation. Kudos.

[@jlmonterrosa14]

Thank you so much for this Jay. I appreciate the short video breaking this down.

[@shannonm3841]

i have found the safest thing for me is to never post photos online of anything i have built.

[@joeybergeron376]

Lol

[@markking3755]

@@joeybergeron376 well you can post pics of your build just show the out side of the case only that is completly closed up so no one can see inside of it lol

[@DOOM00420]

Danger DOOM though.

[@snowman22ism]

@@markking3755 No, because then someone would say, "Why did you buy that case idiot? Don't you know that so and so said it's not a good case for this or that"

[@sovie7141]

@@snowman22ism Thats true af bro

[@WingedKuriboh]

So now everyone is going to link this video after someone links Steve’s video

[@lordsqueak]

Someone will link this video, on Steve's video. ;)

[@MarksterC]

epic

[@marioStortuga]

This one and Salazar video both

[@viperlife914]

Steve wasn’t a wrong this even jayztwocents admits this he just wants to tell people it’s not that serious

[@thealien_ali3382]

I pooped

[@lancecampbell8332]

You did a fantastic job demoing how to install an AIO. We needed this. We needed someone to focus on the positioning visually. Thanks.

[@Mauvias]

Thank you for the clarification.

[@markedmunds1966]

A case of “I can explain it to you but I can’t make you understand it”

[@SteelSkin667]

Steve : "don't have your pump on top of the loop, and if your tubes go up the air will settle on top and you'll hear a slight gurgle" Internet : "ok so if my tubes go up my house will burn down"

[@LordNecron]

Naaah, it won't burn. But it is gonna flood instead, because the air goes up, and the water seeps out at the bottom :P

[@Lohran20]

thanks for getting the point across

[@IainMetcalf]

Cheers for this info. Got my first ever AIO just delivered in the last half hour and decided to watch your vid for orientation tips. I have a single 120 kit so going to mount it in the top of my case after removing the single air fan I have there presently.

[@ITRaidDE]

Thanks a lot Jay! 🙏🏼 These people are so annoying to "correct" me over and over again, because "Steve said this is wrong, you idiot"...

[@Skylancer727]

It's still a bad idea as the air pocket at the top of the radiator limits water flow into the outlet of the radiator. You still shouldn't leave the tubes up. As the AIO gets older there will be a point the water level is too low and where air will start getting into the pump yet. It's still best to leave the AIO on the top of the case for the best life span.

[@ITRaidDE]

@@Skylancer727 Sure, but sometimes that's just not possible, for example in some NZXT cases (H210i, H510 Elite etc.).

[@tewgomoo]

@@Skylancer727 you didn't watch the video. The air pocket will be trapped in the inlet side. There is no physical way it can get back to the pump once it's trapped in the inlet of the radiator. Unless the bubble is so large that the radiator is almost empty.

[@k7coupe99]

My h100i pro actually did that when I ran into placement issues in my meshify c.

[@harrystresslevel]

@@ITRaidDE then get better cases lmao.

[@JackPecker911]

Whenever a video starts with the phrase "idiots guide" it immediately feels like this content is for me

[@thgandrade374]

Extremely useful information. Thanks for the video, Jay.

[@hedition9346]

Thanks, great explanation. Clears up everything.

[@lonewolfex]

Jay: People skipped to the end of GN's video and aren't informed Me: Skips to 16:09 Jay: To recap, do this Me: Thanks daaaaaaaad

[@nate_scrub]

I would love for Jay to be my dad

[@e47kz]

jesus, why doesn't he just show it against a motherboard. He's flipping it everywhere lol

[@redlines3787]

thanx bro

[@jankees4037]

@@e47kz Yeah if he would take an ATX motherboard and showed the offset of the processor where it is on the motherboard, that would be better. I have a case with 2 HD cages in the topfront. Then the radiator goes under that. Then you do get the situation that the processor is the highest point of the loop. But with cases without anything in the front, then the 360 radiator is just fine upside down in there.

[@franciscomercado7472]

thanks Lone Wolf Ex hahahah this saved me time... Jay always talks too much (maybe for the content length)...

[@Seif_Morsi]

Jay needs to start a channel called 'gamers nexus simply explained'

[@laurikuusisto5580]

GamersNexus for dummies

[@Seif_Morsi]

@@laurikuusisto5580 I respect the hard work they do, but I wait for other youtubers like jay or linus to explain the stuff they say because I understand nothing from their long and boring (to me) videos

[@laurikuusisto5580]

@@Seif_Morsi I usually watch all of the above mentioned channels. Jay for fun and easy, Linus for the normie version and GN for the detailed version with lots of numbers. And then there is the matter of Buildzoid on AHOC... That's the real shit. Like deep. But ranty and without numbers. Like this comment. Where was I going with this? Well whatever. Love them all but for different reasons ❤👍

[@Lordogre420]

GamerNexus Redux

[@lonelyviews1357]

@@laurikuusisto5580 I was gonna call it the same thing

[@chrisguli2865]

Very clear and direct explanation thank you! Makes sense. I like the radiator on top also because heat rises and better to blow the hot air out from the top. Also keeps the radiator and hoses away from the graphics card. The radiator on the front does look cooler with RGB LEDs as long as the radiator high point is above the pump.

[@charlesurias]

I thought the heat rising thing was important myself, but from what I've since heard about PC cases and heat is that the effect of heat rising is negligible in the presence of case fans.

[@onlytheneeded412]

@@charlesurias yes this is a good comment here, because there are different type of fans, push/pull, static or pressure, etc., and if the fans are moving the air towards the exhaust fan point then exactly it's negligible because pressure is created for the air to move to that point. But, if OP for instance only has the AIO as the exhaust point, and air is oscillating inside the case, then yeah OP's set up would prove more effective. Really comes down to how the fans are set up. for me for instance, I have an NZXT H1 V2, I flipped the fan and radiator so that air is coming from the outside in, and I made fan mods for additional exhaust out. So, I have no other air besides the CPU air being pushed into the case, or from the GPU, while all my other fans are exhaust out (5 total, 3x 40mm, 1x 40mm, 1x 80mm). So far creating this dynamic I have seen reduction in CPU temps, and little to no change from advised 7900XT temps. My radiator is also configured as push rather than pull.

[@billythecat]

People put the rad in the front so that it gets the cool air from outside the case. Top mount would suck all the hot air from the gpu and.

[@Djinnerator]

Heat does not rise in a PC case with fans. Only in a completely passively cooled case, which an AIO would never be in.

[@kimk3573]

If you put the radiator on the top, you are getting air that's ran through by gpu, thus hotter air

[@palfy205]

I've had numerous people tell me that I was doing it wrong, I've always mounted facing above because liquid is denser than air... But apparently even simple things like that float above their heads, thanks for the videos, recently found your channel learning lots and touching up lots of information, I've been out of the tech game for 4 years, but I'm back!

[@HappyH4x0r]

you can mount it that way, its just not the best solution, its the "i cant install the aio any other way" solution corsair for example explicitly states that in their aio faq, pump never highest point, but if possible tubes always on the bottom or the aio top mounted

[@blackmesarf4361]

08:20 listen carefully! background music still playing.... bruh.

[@InfoDav]

That's the sound of this specific pump

[@89qn85mn]

You really didnt hear?

[@chrisbertolino2116]

Steve explained this perfectly in 375 hours of detailed analysis..don’t see where the confusion is coming from 😂

[@UltraSuperDuperFreak]

There is no confusion, there is missinformation mate :) Because they skipped the video, or copied what other said, did you just skip this video yourself ? :P

[@valdezapg]

he makes his videos too long winded and boring and it is extremely tempting to skip parts of them.

[@joshsanderson5512]

@@valdezapg not his fault that you skipped? If you skipped then sounds like his contents not for you, but again not his problem

[@stanley3647]

This is a common problem with his videos. Twice longer as they should be. He should hire someone who edit his scripts, and rewrite in more accesible/shorter way. Like Jay here explain same thing with a lot less talking. People don't wanna watch 30 minutes video, for things which can be explained in 5 minutes. I personally stop watching his channel because of it.

[@diemturner5755]

My sediments exactly.

[@alexsurh1472]

Am currently looking to go AIO setup and stumbled across this video. Didn't even think about this but I'm glad I watched it! Very informative!

[@s.j.5553]

Thank you! Very concise and digestible.

[@DontEatCream]

Are public schools these days not teaching “air rises” to kids anymore? I mean seriously

[@emjayel206]

Nah they are to busy teaching to be "woke", never the fundamentals

[@earthphoenix5226]

@@emjayel206 Such an ignorant comment. You've been out of school for ages so how the hell do you know what they teach? Everyone should know that the system has pretty much stayed relatively the same.

[@Michael-zf1ko]

@@earthphoenix5226 "Considering you to have been" ??? Jesus, I guess the school system has actually gotten worse since I left. They are even skipping basic grammar to teach liberal nonsense.

[@JARI]

no

[@7rich79]

I think the confusion can be about how much force a pump needs to overcome the rising air. Especially when viewing videos about filling custom water loops and seeing the air being pulled through the loop.

[@patricefournier8784]

8:13 Jay: you can hear the pump me: no stop the fucking music

[@ioannou.angelos]

Thank you so much for the clarifications!

[@RancidRick]

Amazing information. My first AIO is coming soon with my new build. I never would have thought of this! Thanks!

[@TTMR1986]

So, I take it folks missed Steve's line about tubes up being mostly an acoustic problem huh?

[@--_DJ_--]

Yep, I think the takeaway was tubes up = bad for a lot of people. Listening is so hard...

[@CreativityNull]

Yeah, I was wondering that myself

[@viperlife914]

Not acoustic it can affect the pump too though but not as much but can

[@Fatgumby]

@@viperlife914 it’s almost like you didn’t watch this video

[@doctor9633]

@@viperlife914 you're replying on every comment like you know it but basing from your responses you still didnt understand.

[@downrangefuture6493]

I keep saying to people, "thanks for incorrecting me."

[@daviddavid9459]

Excellently explained! Thank you

[@PauldenBoef]

Great explanation of the problem and the various ways to get around the problem, well done!

[@AcidRP]

"do you hear that" BGM continues to play

[@MsTatakai]

so true.... i heard nothing and i was trying to turn off my music for some reason (which was his BGM video XD)

[@Tekknological]

:D

[@floop1108]

The way you used the most essential details and fully explained them, leaving nothing out but without making it too complicated, was super well done.

[@KioskaraTTV]

Incredibly informative video! Thankyou for the clear and concise explanation.

[@edvaardsandford7775]

Thanks for clearing that up. Some one told me about this problem. Ive had my rad and pump for 6 years never had a problem.

[@tim71pos]

Would be nice if they turned off the little background music when they're trying to emphasize low-level sounds made by the unit

[@Witcher21]

Heard it just fine. Turn up your volume, open your ears.

[@ssccoottiinnoo]

@@Witcher21 woosh

[@ssccoottiinnoo]

@@BigShawarma woosh

[@nathannichols2704]

@@ssccoottiinnoo 🗿🤡

[@TolgarTheGreat]

@@BigShawarma woosh

[@StarsMarsRadio]

Instructions unclear. Radiator is now full of urine. Going to flame other tech tubers with "ur doing it wrong, watch JayZ"

[@JeffJohnson]

I was going to say the same thing, LOL

[@earthtaurus5515]

roflmao 😗...

[@youssefmihidjai13]

Thanks for that video ! I'm about to buy my 1st AIO and your detailed explanation was very helpful !🙂

[@user-he6be6ys7o]

Thanks a lot that was very clear...

[@crispybacon4240]

Jay is like a disappointed parent scolding their idiot child this whole video and I love it.

[@exo-zaddy4886]

That’s gen-z for u lmao

[@lightless]

"i put my mic near it so you guys can hear it" "do you hear that" - yes i hear background music...

[@CreativityNull]

Yeah, I feel like the editor needs a break. I can't remember his name ATM because I'm dead tired yet can't sleep I want to say phil

[@PrincePawn]

@@CreativityNull bro, I'm also here unable to sleep.. what a coincidence 😴 night Phil

[@mostlypeacefulrowan8747]

I think my noise filter filtered it

[@kyoudaiken]

I have bad news for you. I even heard the humming with speakers. :D

[@CaptKornDog]

Wish I had an AIO play some smooth background music in those orientations.

[@joshuafreivald1591]

Anyone tell you that you and Steve make an awesome duo? Just installed my first AIO, tried fitting it on top, but ran into issues. Saw Steve’s video and was panicking most of the way through until it clicked, and this video confirmed I’m in the clear. Thanks, Jay!!

[@johngossett6683]

Thank you so much for this, Thank you Jay

[@bizzarojerry]

Building my first AIO cooled computer, and this is the first I've ever heard about proper orientation. You've saved my computer before I've even built it. Thanks for the education!

[@alpha_th0t]

So with 2 months of hindsight, how did the build go?

[@flippCZ]

yeah, forward some link to pictures.. im curious too.!

[@bizzarojerry]

@@alpha_th0t It went fine. Ended up realizing that even with the large case I have that there wouldn't be enough room for a side mounted AIO and a beefy GPU, so we went with a top mounted system. Still waiting for those GPU's to fall to a reasonable price, but other than that, it's done.

[@tyywitdalocs]

@@bizzarojerry probably going to be waiting for a LONGGG time

[@bizzarojerry]

@@tyywitdalocs Don't I know it. But at least China has banned bitcoin mining, and the bottom has fallen out of the market. Card prices are starting to drop, and the GPU manufacturers are getting ready to launch the next generation. So supply will be booming!

[@Alamnyobato_anbt]

Explained it perfectly!!!! kudos Jay!!!

[@augustbiernbaum4841]

What does your name mean?

[@LewdMusics]

@@augustbiernbaum4841 I think it means "Do you know this?"

[@selenerayne26]

@@augustbiernbaum4841 yeah that is right. that's a tagalog question that means "Do you know this?"

[@jopben6468]

tama

[@TRC_WA]

Yep... thanks Jay for confirming I did it right by top mounting my Z73... 😂 I did it because of the 3 front 140mm fans in my FD Meshify 2 case but hey... if it helps the AIO I’m good!

[@gravestoner2488]

I work in hvac, finally something i understand

[@_marduk]

Super helpful!! Thank you Jay!

[@johnsonwang7253]

I need a poster of Jay delivering the line "The salt is warranted."

[@2nd_Directorate]

Don´t forget the T-Shirt and Hoodie merch. "Righteous Salt" would be fine too.

[@arcuz7862]

When some of Tech Jesus disciples start spreading stuff again that they haven't even understood 50% of, Tech Godfather has to pimp slap them once in a while.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

Huh. Just like regular Jesus.

[@faisal-ahmad]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/i2bHYn5mf8iaf9U

[@imagineaworld]

And that is to absolutely no fault of steves. You give them the info, and they still cant be bothered to learn. They dont even have to google it lol.

[@imagineaworld]

@@ValkyrieTiara the comment isnt about tech jesus, its about tech jesus followers, so your comment makes little sense, but people will like it, because crapping on religion is really popular right now. Gg.

[@ValkyrieTiara]

@@imagineaworld Uh.... yeah, dude. That's the Joke. I'm specifically saying that Jesus' RL followers go around preaching without actually understanding anything Jesus said. Jesus' message was specifically about honoring God by loving your fellow man and putting others before yourself without judgement, but you have people shouting from the hilltops about how he hates gays and muslims. Cry more.

[@fixit4182]

As a mechanic, this makes perfect sense, it’s a no-brainer but yeah, sometimes you have to explain how to put the key in the lock to some people. Good video, man.

[@ForceBuilt]

Awesome video! I also loved the salt. You made it VERY clear but I am sure there are plenty that still don’t understand lol! Great work

[@DanDan-li4hr]

after watching GN people became AIO experts after watching jay people are now AIO masters

[@whitenoise509]

It blows my mind how people aren't comprehending this. Don't have your pump be the highest point in the loop. It's really not complicated.

[@Joreel]

Maybe they are new to the idea of liquid cooling pumps in computers. I built computers for 20 years, but stopped in 2007 and water cooling your system was in it's infancy so I knew what it was, but had only seen pictures of hard-line systems. AIOs didn't exist at the time.

[@coolhwhip86]

Welcome to the new world where people don't actually learn anything, they just regurgitate stuff they see online.

[@vamwolf]

@@coolhwhip86 its so true.. i made ram appear!!!!

[@tommys.9606]

Blows my mind more that people don't realize that if you put the tubes to the bottom, then air WILL get trapped in the pump. In that position the rad and pump make a 'V' where both the pump and the tubeless side of the rad are at high points and both will collect air...

[@whitenoise509]

@@Joreel I totally agree with that. Honestly, if I hadn't seen Beve's video it may not have occurred to me either. I was more referring to people who have watched the tutorial and aren't quite grasping the concept yet.

[@cjcarn5509]

More great tips, great video and commitment. Thanks for all the great advice

[@Blackraven6]

Ok, so small add. Pump is not working harder with air. It's working easier. And that's the problem. Any pump has a range of viscosity of what it is meant to pump. When it pumps something that is easier to propulse, than what it's made for - it starts revving up cause it doesn't have enough resistance. Which does lead to overheating, bearing ware cause of overclocking basically and ofcource the valve failure inside of the pump. This pumps are puny, so it doesn't damage THAT fast. But for drainage pumps, sewage submersive pumps, even for your kitchen's garbage disposal unit - it just can't go dry unless you want to almost instantly break it. This is why you should always have things like air separators and flow sensors.

[@knaeckebrothakan]

Title: Stop doing this Thumbnail: This is fine Me: *visible confusion*

[@TempEdits]

You’ll only understand if you’ve seen the other videos saying how not to use you inter cooler. There videos say not to do it so he’s mimicking the videos

[@Scotschie]

@@TempEdits Or he's saying don't "be a dick, (especially one that's wrong)"

[@johnwilcox2688]

He's saying to stop telling people they're doing it wrong because it's fine to have the aio oriented the way he's demonstrating. Was this a joke?

[@glovebox9000]

theres like a “this is fine” comment.

[@mythic017]

**Laughs in air cooled PC** Edit: Welp, looks like I started a war.

[@thecatch6299]

Same

[@andyhelvey8425]

Laughs in 5800x and my friends ryzen stock cooler

[@elijahheadrick1389]

*Laughs in peltier*

[@floki6548]

I used a NOCTUAH 12S air CPU cooler with 5600x

[@Venerable_Banana]

Noctua NH-U12A with 5900X

[@Wabasi]

Admittedly the science for steve's video was really cool but it did muddle the important information a bit. This was exactly as you said in the beginning - a great TLDR. I'm building my 4th PC here with an AIO instead of a standard cooler for the first time so I'm glad to know what to look out for! Thanks

[@pedrinnieves1756]

this video really help me think more about to right put the radiator, thank you Jay.

[@daemonsquid3414]

*Jay tries to convey important information* Also Jay: The AIO goes blululululu

[@TheHammerGuy94]

I mean how else can you convey such a sound?

[@Krydolph]

He needs to get down to a level where the targeted audience can still follow!

[@daemonsquid3414]

@@Krydolph well I definitely understood what he meant

[@pcracer2]

Talk to any motorcycle rider or mechanic and they talk with sounds like that. We understand certain things make sounds like that. Helps diagnose issues

[@r32juan]

That part was funny af, that's why I watch him

[@peterecos634]

What a great explanation!!!!!! Not only did you give me peace of mind about my build (first one using an AIO), you also educated me quite a bit on the mechanics of liquid cooling.

[@mikecaseymotors]

Very well done - thank you.

[@Shadowsamy]

Useful and appreciated! Much love friend!

[@Cwrigh25]

Angry Jay is one of the best Jays

[@madao9946]

"Bubble goes Blalalalalalaaa..." - Jayz 2020

[@isharkyjr8383]

Helped ALOT, Thank you! Keep up the amazing Work!!

[@B33EZ]

LOL, I literally just watched the sasquatch video on this. Thank you Jay. You're brilliant. Your explaination is exactly why I commented on his video that it was arrogant to present his findings as finite. Steve is super smart but he's overzealous in a lot of occasions. Hmm, must be why I prefer your channel. And you are right, I skipped through a lot of his video.

[@finn5571]

tl;dr: Is your pump the highest point in youre AIO's fluid loop? No -> You're good. Yes -> You stuffed up.

[@FuckedUpGenius]

But what if the tubing is above the pump and radiator? 🤔

[@NickVS]

@@FuckedUpGenius Doesn't matter

[@Seorful]

Wouldn't it be tl;dw ?

[@fury1184]

I stuffed up. I had asked Corsair if it can go in front in the front (a 240 in a 750D), and they replied with Bison saying YES!. I didn't think it was right though because the pump was a little above. Fortunately, I didn't use the system that much because of board issues until I replaced it. I hope I haven't damaged it. I put the rad back on the top again where I originally had it.

[@jankees4037]

Half the noobs will be like: Where the frikkin feck is the pump. Can't see it!

[@MrDeepSound]

Thanks for your input on this Jay! So many people argue and be confused about this topic! Happy New Year!

[@exo-zaddy4886]

That’s genz for you with there nzxt cases with 1 hole on the top

[@thephoenix7435]

@@exo-zaddy4886 Before anything else I clicked on your YT display picture :(

[@TheDNW]

Right? Super good

[@mperry2384]

Ppm for air measurement...I think

[@ssp_2015]

@@mperry2384 nah, air is measured volumetrically. It would be cc's

[@mctit]

Admittedly I had a hard time understanding what exactly was the right or wrong way to mount it in the GN video so I definitely appreciate this.

[@jewagr007]

PERFECT Explanation!!!! Thanks Jay!

[@vinny9500]

The 22 people who disliked this video are the same people he was talking about.

[@SachinBalan_PB]

Absolutely right 👍

[@rmarca8306]

They're probably the guys who shared Steve's video and claimed he did it wrong. (It's 61 now)

[@alternade8981]

Truee...🤣🤣🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

[@Homeboy_Brando]

@@rmarca8306 101 now

[@thejnelson88]

I work on pumps for a living, I dislike the video because thats not what I am worried about. Pump cavitation is what we are worried about.

[@InFlamesOfSorrow]

08:14 so you guys can hear it.. listen me: oh nice the pump makes background music

[@aless7125]

Lmao

[@huntertainment720]

Good point about the orientation where the AIO would be front mounted with the tubes up higher: if there is an air pocket, it would always be on the outlet side of the pump and not the inlet / the inlet of the rad, not the outlet.

[@MrUltimategamer44]

I know this is a two year old video now but I'm building my first PC and I only just now found out my case doesn't have enough space for the recommended front mounted option. This has given me sooooooooo much relief I can't even express it into words. I was getting tight on my budget set and the AIO I wanted would've needed to be returned otherwise and I most likely would've had trouble finding a replacement for the deal price I got it for. TL:DR Great video, Thank you so much!