'I get a kick out of Nigel Farage': Jordan Peterson on Reform and why net zero is unconservative

[@irenecoulson3079]

Gove nodding. Agreeing Tories were / are utterly insane ... Yet this is exactly what he worked and supported

[@RayTeggie-er7pb]

100 per cent

[@afriedli]

That's because the Tories, especially Gove, aren't so much insane as spineless. And so his response to JP is, unsurprisingly, spinelessness. Gove is a weathercock. The only thing he believes in is his right to rule.

[@rogerdodger1790]

Correct. A snake of the highest order.

[@MartinJG100]

@@rogerdodger1790 or even the lowest order. Worm tongue springs to mind :).

[@undesignated3491]

Hes a prick and will join anyone will have him, just a yes man and Reform dont need these types of people.

[@I-am-not-a-number]

Gove was responsible for most of the policies JP is calling out.

[@robkeeleycomposer]

He has Net Zero shame.

[@tracycritchley9471]

And JP knows this 😂

[@Bob-d6g]

He didnt make the policies, that was some teisted think tank? He was responsible for not critiqueing them As was labor, they sat the oter side and said nothing.

[@tracycritchley9471]

Gove a traitor

[@peterjones7303]

David Attenborough the planets over populated said it at davos guys 90 plus

[@tomsawyer4321]

Gove clearly doesn’t realize that Peterson was critiquing everything he stood for.

[@afriedli]

I'm sure he realised, but Gove is enough of a creep to just nod along.

[@Tzhz]

​@afriedli he's a boot licking yes man

[@andylewis7360]

@@afriedliIf you were Gove, would you argue with JP? He’s weak and pathetic by comparison! By comparison with a Canadian academic!!

[@borderlands6606]

Gove is capable of holding two mutually exclusive ideas in his head at one time, and fully agreeing with both. He'll eulogise each in successive sentences and see no contradiction whatsoever.

[@andylewis7360]

@ End of the day all he wants is to co-opt Peterson to Badenoch’s side, since he’s angling to be the power behind her throne.

[@stevenhoward6106]

The Tories didn't fail they were carrying out WEF agenda. Once this mess is addressed, everyone who was involved in sending us down the woke agenda road should be held accountable.

[@RayTeggie-er7pb]

Including GOVE

[@maccagrabme]

WEF is completely incompatible with democracy.

[@orsoncart802]

And ‘dealt with’. Pssst - Pierrepoint.

[@rayven2383]

​@@orsoncart802to good for them

[@Clearthesmoke-u3d]

Get real

[@axegrinder6734]

Would rather not have Gove in this conversation

[@robkeeleycomposer]

Fortunately he’s not saying very much!

[@simplesimon5739]

​@@robkeeleycomposerwell Peterson is calling him an idiot.

[@Vacaiable]

God punishes us in mysterious ways, you could say. It must be a particularly challenging interview for one of the architects of the disaster the UK has become, to now pretend that he had nothing to do with it. I wonder though whether Dr.Peterson knew whom he was talking to?

[@tonyclifton2230]

In fairness both are jokes.

[@fillyfresh]

Or on the channel.

[@afriedli]

JP describing Gove perfectly, while the spineless creep makes encouraging noises as though it has nothing to do with him.

[@winstonsmith1945]

JP knows Gove's involvement. He's speaking truth to power.

[@thegreatrest-exslave-slave9450]

💯

[@FrankySmiter]

Extremely well said!

[@richardwalton6993]

Fact is that uncontrolled immigration leads to serious problems regarding overburdened infrastructure, fiscal insolvency and mismanagement, increased sectarian tensions, etc. In short, the increased numbers become unsustainable: The UK is undeniably in this situation - because leading politicians have clearly refused to take responsibility. Pointing this out isn’t suggesting that the answer must involve catastrophes such as The Great Leap Forward (horrendous poverty and mass starvation). But sensible management of immigration and related policies would remediate. All that’s needed are sensible politicians? Heaven forbid… PS: Badenoch won’t disconnect from the ECHR. No progress there. Same old same old!

[@raymilan5307]

Nothing to do with me 'Gove'

[@SimonWallwork]

Gove was IN THE GOVERNMENT, but not a word about why the tories pursued net stupid and permitted mass immigration.

[@zlanath]

& some would say he was the ringmaster directing the pack of clowns & likely still is...

[@tomfuzer9885]

This is bizarre to see Gove doing this interview with Jordan Peterson 😵‍💫

[@possessionfriend946]

Jordan is ABSOLUTELY Spot - On.

[@zo0mpa]

Its an absolute pleasure watching Jordan Peterson make Gove cringe over all the failures of the Tories 😂

[@AndrewMoore21]

Gove’s face is a treat!!

[@RayTeggie-er7pb]

Only if it was in the stocks

[@FraserBailey-jm5yz]

That is probably the first time anyone has ever written those words.

[@johnrhodes3350]

for slapping

[@john_smith1471]

I remember when Michael Gove adored Greta Thunberg, he was completely hypnotised.

[@afriedli]

That's because he's a mindless sheep.

[@rickjensen2717]

I can tell you that Gove was at the heart of all this and pushed it all hard within the Conservative party.

[@FC-PeakVersatility]

I'm a great believer in not damaging the environment, and repairing human damage where evidenced, but climate control is a total fallacy for the fairies.

[@lpj55]

It makes total sense to keep our room tidy.

[@manusha1349]

For anyone thinking Jordan didn't know he was talking to one of the architects of the MESS left by the Tories, you're unbelievably naive! He knew EXACTLY who he was talking to and laid into him like the Jungian Master that he is ...

[@christinecarty636]

💯 AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT 💯👌

[@General_internet_use_only]

u so pretty .. do u have partner ?😉

[@dannoble1273]

@@christinecarty636 I concur 👍

[@simonkensington-fellows6142]

It would be nice if Gove would take responsibility and apologise for his part in the last Conservative government instead of sitting there agreeing with Peterson.

[@Jay-gr9ij]

Are you dense? Why would he apologise for something he pursued? He's a snake. What world do you live in?

[@user-ye7bf8sv6m]

I just love and respect straight talk, straight talk that makes sense without a counter argument.

[@tomcatpower2]

Brilliant!

[@StrangeAttractor]

If you think having 10+ billion people on the planet at the same time as fossil fuels run out and we haven’t invested anywhere near enough in renewables, then yeah JP is your man!

[@johnwhale8316]

Doesn’t JP realize that Gove was in the Tory government and voted for the all the net zero nonsense?

[@simplesimon5739]

Yes 😂

[@superrrnova1986]

I don't think so 🤣😂

[@laurasands8322]

Funny how Gove didn't own up to that isn't it?

[@rokketron]

Probably why he's saying it!😅😅😅

[@Dogtagnan]

Probably

[@davidhill3595]

This damn Gove. He wrecked the country and now he will wreck my favourite magazine. I have noticed how he is front and centre on all the video stuff now. It is the arrogence of the man that he now wants to be a podcaster becasue he thinks that is where the power is. He though the power was in being a journalist, then in being an MP or in the cabinet. He has failed and failed and continues to rise. The spectator is now part of the problem. Gove, go join some quangos and the board of ICI and get out of my sight

[@David-vk5sv]

Here here!

[@David-vk5sv]

Here here!

[@haymish6943]

Love this man talks so much sense

[@vh1775]

Gove?

[@markdrummond7]

Word salad does not equal sense.

[@chrissymissymai]

@@markdrummond7 only if your unable to understand JP’s educated eloquence 🎉

[@call_in_sick]

@@chrissymissymai😂😂😂

[@Bertiemarj]

@@vh1775 Haha 😛

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Reform has overtaken the Conservative for a modern audience Party. That's what happens when you betray those who voted for you in 2019. Reform will do to the modern Conservative Party what Labour did to the Liberal Party.

[@anonnymous4684]

How have Reform overtaken the Conservatives?

[@KentVigilante]

@@anonnymous4684 In polls, in £25 sign ups and support overall, everyone is talking about Reform not just in the UK, it's international, Trump will help Reform win bigly and force Keir Stalin out

[@anonnymous4684]

@@KentVigilante Polls, whilst interesting are pretty meaningless, when the next GE is almost 5 years away. Labour had 500k members (not just 'sign ups') during the Corbyn era and yet it still ended in defeat. If I were you, I'd try not to get too carried away at this stage.

[@bluestream50]

@@anonnymous4684reform have 4000 more members than the torys.

[@DanRyan-v5y]

​@@anonnymous4684 labour ended up in defeat under Corbyn because they had idiotic policies and were probably supporting terrorists still. If Corbyn had gone all out Brexit rather than sitting on the fence and pandering to starbots remoaners they might have won the GE. If he hadn't been the usual labour liar then maybe I might have given him a chance , as I did at first. But stupidly he threw it all away by lying about the train seats and showed he was no better than most labour MPs. He was cooked from then on. No one who wasn't rabidly labour was going to vote for him.

[@stevenhoward6106]

Peter hit the nail on the head about Borris.

[@ph8077]

Peter Jordanson is a smart guy

[@vjab1108]

Boris should of listened to Cummings not his silly Wife.

[@JohnPretty1]

should have not should of

[@brianlopez8855]

yeah but Cummings was not withholding nookie was he ?

[@nigelburn-murdoch2330]

It was utterly shameful that the “ net zero” crap was put through parliament without proper debate “ on the nod” in a near empty chamber. The sleep walk to ruin started that night.

[@brianlopez8855]

they knew what they were doing

[@beverlymaskall3253]

Bravo for Jordan Peterson.

[@paulpryde1]

This just highlights Peterson's superior intelligence compared to Gove still clinging to the belief that Badenoch can change things, Farage is by far the most able politician of our times, Rupert Lowe a close second.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

100%

[@1aatlas]

Gove is still a Tory... Hes still towing the party line.

[@DanRyan-v5y]

Gove has always been a snake in the grass, sabotaging wherever he could

[@tamhunter5025]

So you never heard Peterson say Badenoch might have the answers

[@markgobrien9791]

Much like the superior intelligence of a bread roll compared to a bagel.

[@norituk9824]

I don't think Prof Peterson realizes who he's talking to. Peterson describes the "idiot blandishments of Net Zero" but Gove is one of the idiots who is responsible for the Net Zero policies in the UK. But the look on Gove's face says "It wasn't me !".

[@CaroleScarborough-w7y]

Trust me: he knows.

[@Design_no]

Absolutely he knows.

[@foilrider2000]

@@norituk9824 he does

[@bernardgarrett3897]

Even if he does. I don't think it would have stopped him from saying what he did.

[@piscesmoon3512]

Dr Peterson 👏👏👏

[@NewHeathen]

The world would be a much darker, fouler and insane place without Jordan Peterson.

[@robkeeleycomposer]

Thankyou Jordan for your truth telling

[@StrangeAttractor]

The truth is that fossil fuels are finite. JP is about as far from the truth as it’s possible to be.

[@mikecarr122]

Yes I like JP but I also think there could be too many people on this fragile ball we call Earth???

[@VeKay-w4p]

It certainly is a merry Christmas.... Reform......Reform.... Reform

[@rategg1]

I am quite surprised to see JP speaking to a modern day demiurge so willingly and candidly. This creates some food for thought.

[@50sense50]

I agree as JP usually does his homework

[@irenecoulson3079]

Sorry, Mr Gove, you are fibbing here. Kemi spoke in Parliament wanting MORE immigration. Same with Net Zero. During the previous party leaders run up when Truss won, she spoke FOR net zero. Not against, as Farage/Reform have but in support. That is misleading kemi's true ideologies. Please try and learn to speak the truth

[@diogenesagogo]

She wanted more CONTROLLED immigration, not letting just anyone in - & certainly didn't argue for illegal immigration.

[@irenecoulson3079]

@@diogenesagogo She openly spoke in Parliament supporting Increased immigration. Plus visa increased for dependents. That is not control, unless you honestly think One Million coming every year is 'controlled!!' What she says in interviews compared to realities is night and day..... and I didn't mention Illegals, only the Number Tories CHOSE to bring here.. One Million every year and only 16% classed as skilled workers ie possibility of them being net contributors as opposed to 84% of the Millions and Millions Tories brought here who are Net costs to the economy and services Remember she was in Trade when she could've torn up EU rules and regs, but chose not to That shows no vision and her supporting continuance of the Uni-Party as all share exact 2030/5 destructive Agenda's

[@DanRyan-v5y]

She is still a waste of time and space, and allegedly is not even a British citizen. I for one do not want a non citizen to represent me. They have no serious skin in the game

[@diogenesagogo]

​@@DanRyan-v5y So you're saying she isn't a British citizen, even though she clearly is? Because you don't want her to be? And then say she isn't serious about wanting the best for this country? I'd trust her commitment to the UK far more than someone like, say, Starmer & his ilk who betray what this country really means.

[@DanRyan-v5y]

@diogenesagogo there are reports that she isn't a British citizen. Allegedly her mother came here to give birth and then later returned to Nigeria. Kemi has spent most of her time outside UK apparently . Your starmery is just whataboutery, both labour and Tories are not good for British people

[@rokketron]

Farage isn't an odd conservative. He's a TRUE conservative!

[@Joe-eq5xh]

A conservative who believes in the drug decriminalisation? Lmao.

[@indigophanta8288]

A Conservative who wouldn't deport illegal immigrants?

[@gavwilson3413]

@@Joe-eq5xh there is solid evidence supporting the case for legalising some drugs. In Portugal it led to a dramatic drop in crime.

[@James_36]

@@gavwilson3413 correlation is not causation and there is not one piece of data that can prove that is the cause of the decline...

[@gavwilson3413]

@@James_36 what part of 'drug related crime fell dramatically' fails to meet your criteria? Don't get me wrong. I was highly sceptical that legalising drugs could be effective. But, I read about it, I studied it. And it turns out that criminalising trauma victims, (who typically constitute over 75% of drug addicts), is NOT an effective to prevent either drug use or drug related crime. Now, you can argue that if you like. But, I have made my points. If you want to refute them, how about you do your own research before you spin up against the real data?

[@darrensaquaticsworld]

Gove trying to sell Kemi to JP like she's a new flavour of crisps is kinda amusing.

[@alexr5557]

Jordan Peterson is a legend. Pure common sense!

[@sbv-zs7wz]

do i remember right that Gove was a Zero-Covid promoter?

[@Jay-gr9ij]

The architect of it. He's responsible for destroying the UK. Completely weak and duplicitous.

[@HYUKLDER1]

Britain needs Labour Zero and Conservatives Zero.

[@louiseparker1915]

I love Jordan Peterson! He’ absolutely brilliant! ❤

[@anthonyorafferty5632]

My god Peterson just came out with some great lines straight off. No sugar coating. So refreshing to hear hard truth.

[@chrisnicholson1088]

Brilliant Peterson. Unfortunately Gove is remembered as the snake in the grass.

[@FiveLiver]

Forget Gove, Badenoch and the Conservatives, they are yesterday's men.

[@garygallagher3428]

Gove ha!ha! What a snake.

[@mssugarwoman]

Gove was a large part of the Tory mess, but he is now the editor of The Spectator and is wearing his interviewer's hat. Fair play to him for giving Prof. Peterson his head and not interrupting.

[@liz2111]

Thank you SO much Dr Peterson for telling it as it is!

[@robhersov2486]

I have just joined Reform and am donating to them. And all my frrinds are doing the same.

[@philmipants6337]

Jordan Peterson, what a great man and his intelligence so refreshing. Common sense is what is lacking across the West at the moment.

[@jules2545]

Do remember the sycophantic image of Gove looking at Thunberg with starry eyes? He is a loathsome get.

[@margarethurley4904]

Love this conversation well done 👏 love JP

[@royalalloy3471]

Olukemi Olufunto Adegoke is the most fantastic leader the Tory Blair Party could have picked... The uniparty is in its death rattle phase

[@wave8359]

Good sense being spoken by Jordan Peterson !!!

[@allanjgray1]

At last someone talkiing bloody sense

[@alexr5557]

It was so disappointing to see the Conservative government have the ball, only to never run with it. Exasperating.

[@martincull4914]

Why is it that it takes non politicians like Dr Peterson to speak perfect sense, no nonsense. The fall of the Uk conservatives falls on the shoulders of the clown Mr Boris Johnson and his supporters.

[@AlanRoberts-xy4wu]

100% correct.

[@James_36]

it started with Cameron, lets not forget why they changed into social liberals when the country is not that. Their masters told them they would be destroyed if they did not

[@suereeves5994]

Can't believe Gove is on.

[@TraceyFrancis-h6k]

Gove has been rumbled face 😂 thanks Jordan

[@paulinglis2976]

😂 Brilliant. Jordan Peterson does it again. Spot on 👍

[@raijinenel3116]

HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA JP rips into Gove without him realising Gove was apart of that very Tory government.

[@CaroleScarborough-w7y]

He realizes.

[@PhilipHughes-wp3vm]

JP knocking it out of the park, yet again.

[@susiewickham9990]

As ever, Jordan speaks sense.

[@segapc1994]

This is hilarious.

[@Fuzzyblossom]

Thankyou for being you Jordan& Tammy, if only there wasnt more pll in power with your honesty & integrity! We are sinking here, pls pray for us! in the rats' nest 🙏🇬🇧

[@mariebell1811]

I Love Jordan Peterson for his brilliant mind and honesty.

[@cailancook9720]

This is a remarkable clip. Jordan sits and details the catastrophic failures and circumstances that his interviewer, Michael Gove, has been instrumental in catalysing. This man is the Tory Tony Blair, one of a few that helped personally place Great Britain in the dire situation she is in today.

[@EamonDorrian-lo1ne]

Well said sir 👏

[@BarbaraGrosvenor]

I love Jordan Peterson; listening to him gives me hope for the future. Johnson turned sharp left when he married his left-leaning wife.

[@datageekkarting8372]

JP with gloves off. Bloody marvellous!

[@chalkytr6]

Always wonderful to see and hear Jordan Peterson. As for Gove he was a key player in the conservative government who drove us for 14 years towards the disastrous situation we are in today!

[@ste7759]

VOTE REFORM

[@rachelabbott9393]

Love Jordan. Always says it how it is - correct!

[@ivorgotten2368]

Gove pretending that he has no skin in the Nut Zero and Mass Immigration game. Ridiculous!

[@graxav]

Gove listening to the logic of his own demise ..

[@Steve-zc3rg]

Nailed it Jordan, lost our minds non hate crimes 😂😂

[@DanRyan-v5y]

Anti democratic, invented by the royal college of policing, not parliament. Should be banned and those responsible jailed for crimes against the people.

[@CaroleScarborough-w7y]

Hate non-crimes. In other words, the thought police now have a legal foothold.

[@dedrox3d491]

Even JP knows the situation better than the ones in the UK!

[@Mandsb69]

This man is fantastic and knows the truth, love JP ❤❤❤

[@karenfrost7560]

Well said JP

[@sarahblunt1098]

So Gove the snake is now working for the Spectator?

[@lewisblight-bp1dt]

Yes. He's the new editor.

[@foilrider2000]

He's not good to hold office.

[@anthonyarcher4744]

The UK deserves everything it gets.......it's too far gone.

[@richiefingers1]

Would like to see a Farage and Peterson chat.

[@benitolopez8762]

Jordan Peterson now has an opinion on everything. He is the Oracle, let´s praise him!

[@translunar1]

Didn't Gove cause most of these problems? 🤣

[@vailydragon]

Go away Gove. Kemi will not cut it with more BS.

[@nickgood8166]

Gove supported Kamala Harris in the recent US election.

[@lewisblight-bp1dt]

Really?

[@gagamba9198]

​@@lewisblight-bp1dt Yes. On 17 Oct 2024 said to Nick Robinson and Amol Rajan on The Today Podcast.: 'I would vote for Kamala Harris.'

[@nickgood8166]

@lewisblight-bp1dt This shouldn't be a surprise. The parlimentary Tory party is wokist. Look how they governed for 14 yrs.

[@swebb302]

Go ve I can't ever remember if he is a fake Tory or a fake lefty

[@CaroleScarborough-w7y]

Enough to remember that he's a fake.

[@Wickedgit-r8r]

I absolutely love JP.

[@christinecarty636]

REFORM UK FOR THE BRITISH PEOPLE CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN AND OUR VETERANS 🙏🙏❤️❤️🇬🇧🇬🇧💯💯💯

[@tommyenglish-zap]

Jordan you're talking to one of the architects of this madness ...

[@sej8806]

Gove has no shame.

[@bleanboy2021]

Totally right about Boris.

[@narkelnaru2710]

Point proven about Jordan Peterson (and Boris Johnson and Michael Gove.) _NET_ zero means the NETT will be zero or less. 2:54 It's good he gets a kick out of Nigel Farage. He's going to need it.

[@Doomed_Raven]

Oh no, Gove is or was part of the Tories for their decade of uselessness. But Peterson is great.

[@caberfeigh396]

Why is it that people like J Peterson, T Robinson, D Murray and Nigel F make simple sensible and obviously clearly believable statements concerning what is needed to sort out this mess the western world is in……and the politicians running this three ring circus are too feeble to get a grip.

[@Kergrist]

Gove knew about UK failures, where was he? Where was his voice?

[@Rydonattelo]

This is the best talking to Michael Gove has ever had.

[@winstonsmasterplan]

Gove is the problem

[@56Nigel]

Jordan just nailed it on the head!! Boris was swayed by his wife and the net zero ideology was his downfall

[@manusha1349]

Love Jordan ❤

[@w.stubbs9174]

This is pure comedy gold, Peterson ripping Gove a new one whilst he does his nodding dog impression .

[@terryjeyes1371]

Gove is a net zero fanatic