I Go Hunting For The Cheapest New Truck AND The Winner Is….?

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[@robertlawrence9000]

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[@appleandre2735]

$53,000 IS NOT AFFORDABLE 🗣️

[@svt89]

Agreeded need to bring back trucks that was low 30s new

[@843MudMafia.]

Midsize trucks are a problem​@@svt89

[@JohnDiMartino]

@@svt89not going to happen, inflation ,labor and material costs will not allow it. At the Sam time emissions regulations ,safety standards and cafe requirements have all squeezed down costing manufacturers even more money to comply with . I would pass on the turbomax truck,no low range transfer case. The SST is a great value for what you get but an unproven engine, the Ford looks too much like a company work truck , especially in white . I’d probably buy the SST and I’m not a Ram guy.

[@BoostedYote]

@@JohnDiMartino😂 anyone who willingly buys any Stellantis product has clearly lost too many brain cells 😂😂

[@JeffreyMota]

Not affordable? it's 2024, any lower in price and your in honda civic territory.

[@joeidalski6047]

$35,000 is affordable, $53,000 your crazy😮

[@davidporter7051]

you are poor.

[@kb4121]

35 thousand barely buys a crv in Canada now

[@Lecon_Roberts]

You too ​@@davidporter7051

[@drags666]

​@@Lecon_Robertshe isn't the one crying that something costs money

[@jhrubicon1470]

​@@kb4121 That's Canada! Money is a little different there. Check exchange rate then edit your comment plz

[@eghhhht]

Never in my life did I ever think a $50,000 truck as low end. Who can afford $1000 mo payments??? CRAZY!!!

[@DeJoe8]

I keep saying that I always assumed if I ever had a car payment of $750+ a month, it would be in a comfortable retirement with a Porsche or something, when everything else was paid off...not on a low spec pickup truck. I refuse to pay that much!

[@clay282]

Here’s what I just can’t get past. My 19 Bighorn Level II 4x4, heated seats, wheel, big screen, trailer pack etc etc was 48k new. I got discounts and my trade in was worth something then, now they aren’t so much. Been a flawless PRE PANDEMIC truck. In 4 years, the big 3 have raised prices SO MUCH! I’d have to settle for 0 options and plastic floor coverings for the same money as a STRIPPED work truck today. Let the big 3 drown in their decisions. There’s no such thing as affordable for us working middle class now.

[@michaelmortiz5692]

If you account for inflation only, that same truck would be around 58k MSRP (22%) the value of the truck relatively the same, the issue isn’t the pricing. Its wages aren’t keeping up with inflation. If your salary isn’t 22% more than in 2019, your are actually poorer off today than you were then

[@clay282]

@@michaelmortiz5692 How about this... CAP EXECUTIVE BONUSES! Ram for example, sales in the dumpster, prices are high. Stellantis CEO got $39 MILLION bonus to successfully inflate prices and idle plants because they can't sell over priced vehicles. How about that $39 MILLION be put into customer hands to buy and keep things going? Nope... let's blame inflation, wages and not mismanagement and greed.

[@kumudukulasekara6684]

If it's used as a passenger vehicle, it's a luxury. Working middle-class don't drive pickups as passenger vehicles.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@kumudukulasekara6684 But sadly, that's who is buying them and that's what they are using them for...it's the modern min-van.

[@blang38]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@kumudukulasekara6684 remember the pandemic? Lots of people did home improvements or bought RV’s during that time. People who never considered a truck bought one and found out how useful they are. A whole new market opened up to trucks and they became family vehicles. People buy what they want and you can’t fault them for that

[@Mayamax3]

Just remember folks, that the average price for a new vehicle purchase is in the mid-40's. The entire market from top to bottom is inflated beyond reason, but it's the pick up trucks and larger SUV's that are dragging the average higher & higher. The only way to slow the assent is to stop buying these overprices money pits. Oh and don't forget about the equally ridiculous cost of insuring them.

[@atg1338]

Blah blah blah

[@williamchen3789]

Do we need more “awareness”? Seems like every KZbin video now has people complaining about prices. Telling people just not to buy things has rarely made prices change…

[@Mayamax3]

@@williamchen3789 Economics 101. Supply and demand. If the supplies are abundant & demand drops so do prices. It isn't that complicated. Furthermore the vast majority of truck buyers do not need a truck to make a living or recreate, so buying an $80,000 truck just to impress your neighbors is dumb.

[@seanpaul9164]

@@Mayamax3 it’s already like that numb nuts, look at the huge discounts on pick up trucks, come out from behind that rock!

[@RM-nj5yg]

I would rather sink 10g into my older dodge ram than have a 800 dollar pmt for 72mo plus full coverage insurance ! No thanks!

[@bobmartens1089]

Yup ill put a new engine and trans in my ole Ferd

[@joseramos7476]

Luxury prices for a basic truck that’s a steal. 🤦

[@davidporter7051]

you are poor.

[@paulcorazza3282]

I wouldn’t buy a Chevy or GM with thier cylinder deactivation system 😏

[@boboso7238]

Those dial and push button transmission controls need to go away in trucks of any kind, especially the push button. A column shift is not hard to deal with, they don't take up room in the dash or console and they are proven.

[@Spkrfrk1]

Just wait until the manufacturers feel the pinch. Car market is headed downhill and its all because they got greedy.

[@davidrudd9846]

The Ford just because I can not rap my head around a 4 banger in a full size truck no matter the # of turbos

[@jghall00]

It's the displacement that generates power, not the cylinder count. Most big rigs use huge straight six engines. The GM blown turbo is the same displacement as Fords smaller turbo six.

[@davidrudd9846]

@@jghall00 inline 6 s in big rigs do not face the same pressures found in the high revving turbo 4 cylinder engines The main reason for the longevity of the big rig engines and even the power stroke etc pick up engines

[@jghall00]

@@davidrudd9846 easy, just don't rev the engine. It's a turbo, it makes enough power down low. Commercial vehicles see far more miles than consumer vehicles. These 4 bangers should do over 200k without opening anything up.

[@Lq32332]

@@davidrudd9846I believe GM warranties the 4 cylinder to 100k miles. So it gets a better warranty than other gas engines.

[@bryanhersman4037]

Ram is a 6 cylinder

[@DracoGP]

I remember 2017 when I couldn’t afford a Raptor because it was 55k…

[@joshuaatkinson5810]

For real….. it’s amazing what’s happened

[@kevbecker672]

I call bullshit on the prices these days......

[@ravensfootball52]

I feel like all trucks are all priced 10-15k higher then they should be

[@ryansheard8092]

@@ravensfootball52 based on what? Your "feeling"?

[@ravensfootball52]

@@ryansheard8092 my comment literally says it’s my feeling. So yes? I don’t see how 70k trucks makes any sense for a mid level truck. The luxury features added by most manufacturers aren’t even new tech. Screens are cheap, they’re filled with plastics inside and out, imitation leather is cheaper. Msrp going up is expected and price increase is also expected based on modern costa but that doesn’t justify the egregious jump in price for any comfort features

[@ryansheard8092]

@ravensfootball52 my point is that "feelings" are typically liars. There are TONS of factors involved with the price of trucks. One that no one wants to address is that all product manufacturers use their most popular products to drive profit that their least popular, yet necessary, products can't. So, trucks are hugely popular and need to drive profit dollars that make up for the vehicles that don't. So, GM truck buyers will pay more for trucks so GM can still offer the Blazer. It's not just about what the Silverado 1500 is "worth". Combine that with a TON of other factors, and truck prices have shot up.

[@Javelinjoe73]

Got to pay the ceo a pile of money

[@Cloud30000]

Everyone wants to own a new vehicle nowadays, when their budget means they should be shopping used. When did “used” become such a bad word for vehicles?

[@Arkeo36]

Just drive around to any nissan dealership - make them an offer on a titan and I bet they will take it.I saw several advertised 15k off msrp for a pro-4x.

[@kaseyc5078]

If I were buying a truck right now I’d go for that

[@BShine-ei7hn]

That's exactly what I did and I got a 24 platinum reserve for 54k, plus ttl and add on with 0%. Still expensive but it has all bells and whistles and cheaper than base models of everyone else.

[@Arkeo36]

@@BShine-ei7hn if I for any reason had a lifestyle for which a full size truck made any kind of sense I would not hesitate to get a pro-4x titan. These discounts are incredible even on a used one with 20k-30k miles. I just don't need a truck that big.

[@BShine-ei7hn]

@Arkeo36 arguably I didn't either but the midsized trucks are too close in price and can't pull over 6k lbs. I tow my car om occasion and this was the cheapest luxury truck I could find. The pro-4x is a great truck for the money.

[@davidporter7051]

because its discontinued. Nissan is unloading at a loss.

[@leavingarizona3345]

I appreciate Andre’s enthusiasm about new trucks but it’s just a bummer how unaffordable they really are. Still like watching Andre though

[@guyforlogos]

There is no best deal on modern trucks, there is no deal at all. They are all overpriced garbage that start rotting away in the rust belt before your last payment is made. I will NEVER pay these prices for a truck, not ever.

[@tendertuna9157]

This is the correct answer. The video is some youtuber trying to get sponsorships.

[@nathanprice2290]

46K for a base model F150 with standard engine no add on is crazy. The f250 crew cab with v8 and more towing no add on is $50,755. You might as well get a better bang for your buck. Plus with turbo engines you will spend more $$$ down the road in maintenance and repair and won’t last as long… for $4,000 more you get reliability and more truck. No brainer there

[@davidporter7051]

a lot of conjuncture without much substance posted there

[@nathanprice2290]

@@davidporter7051 I guess only time will tell if I’m right !!!! I’ll trust my gut instincts

[@MiKa-dc7vq]

Yap, i never understood purpose of IFS F-150 anyway😌

[@mikebradford7780]

​@@davidporter7051Nope.

[@AngryDoveBird]

I think that in comparing truck affordability, all the trucks being compared should be on the same trim level, model year, and possibly same engine size comparably to really see the price differences.

[@davidjernigan8161]

The new engine, transmission, and all the layoffs, resignations, and plant closures at stellantis is a good reason to skip the ram.

[@jefweb5043]

@@davidjernigan8161 Couldn't agree more...

[@braddenr.4778]

Transmission, no. The ZF 8 speed they’ve used since the early 2010’s is rock solid. New engine, yeah probably who knows. It’s new, not been used by consumers long enough to know how it holds up.

[@ajs96350]

@@braddenr.4778 I have that transmission in my 1500, I LOVE it.

[@braddenr.4778]

@@ajs96350 It’s fantastic, it doesn’t gear hunt and it’s so smooth. Had it in my 2015 Laramie. The newer ones are probably even better. Looking forward to having a ‘24 with the hemi by the end of the year!

[@ajs96350]

@@braddenr.4778 Yes, if the H.D.s had a trans like that then I would get one, until then I'm sticking with my G56.

[@joshc606]

Nissan Titan….you will almost always get the best deal but since they have announced it being discontinued the community has forgotten it completely which is sad.

[@davidporter7051]

that's why Nissan is giving them away at a loss.

[@jimmyj5099]

These are great videos. Lots of good info 👍. You should do more like this.

[@mcgubber3500]

Affordable is majorly different for many people

[@ryansheard8092]

@@mcgubber3500 yep. Always has been.

[@charlesdossett8581]

Chevrolet engine is actually a Briggs and Stratton LOL

[@stevennathaniel4191]

You picked the right truck. Still partial to the 8 cylinder

[@Hallowedpoint85]

I thought Fredericksburg VA was a rip off on their ram prices. Denver is still full of stealership prices. that same exact truck here with same options is listed for 48k on their website. But these base model trucks need to get back down under 40k who pays 50k for aluminum wheels lmfao

[@Berghemrrader]

I love thi channel. Even though in the country where I live it is rare to see these pick-up truck on the road, but seeing your videos is like driving them in person. Greetings from Italy!

[@revgordon91]

Great video Andre, but the chevy doesn't count because it's not a full crew cab. 😅 Can you please do one with 3/4 ton diesels and gas?

[@Red_Bearded_Dad]

I know I'm showing my age, but I HATE that truck/car buyers are FORCED to consider the radio/infotainment system as a major aspect of choosing a vehicle. "Back in my day" if you didn't like a radio, went to an audio shop, spent $200-$300 on a head unit, maybe a few hundred on an amp and speakers and would be able to destroy modern radios in clarity and dynamic range. Now if you get a base truck, your pretty much stuck with it because the infotainment system is a major component of the truck's functionality. Old Timer rant over.

[@angelr4429]

If they have rebates and discounts…then the MSRP is too high.

[@Cloud30000]

Regardless of value, if you want to cheapest new model of work truck you need to order it from the factory. Do not look at dealer stock, as they will never inventory models that cost them more to stock than they will make in profit and markup. Even the Tradesmen and XL trims they do carry have a bunch of high-profit/margin add-ons to boost the window sticker.

[@matthewcaughey8898]

That’s if they feel like building it. Tried it with ford just after the pandemic. Got strung along for 9 months before I finally gave up and bought a Toyota Tacoma off the lot for just 1000 more

[@chefdan87]

And this is why i bought a 1996 F150. 4.9 straight six 5 speed manual 4x4. Ive spent the same in restoring her as i did buying her. And it will last way longer than any of these trucks in the video. You dont have to buy new to have a good reliable truck.

[@jamesonpace726]

That is very cool....

[@donc6781]

That’s a Million mile Drivetrain - maybe the best combination ever

[@kirkkarnage6344]

These prices are still too high. I just got a $62,980 sticker price 2024 ram 2500 4x4 6.4L for $43,000. It is a tradesman but even then it is closer to what it should cost. These truck prices are getting out of hand.

[@stevenbullock9276]

I just traded my 9 yo Ram 1500 Sport (3:21 gears) for a '24 2500 Tradesman, 6.4 & 4:10 gears. We wanted something that would tow anything we would realistically get in the future. Just over $50K- was 20% off sticker. So far, love it- except for gas mileage, but I knew that going in.

[@nismomike3182]

You can get a Titan SV 4x4 for $47k, or a Pro-4x for $51k. That is OTD. I do not understand why "its being discontinued" matters whatsoever. Every single vehicle model generation is discontinued at some point. The last year is almost always the best one to get. Just look at the 2021 Tundra. Not a single part carried over to the 2022 Gen 3 Tundra. Whats the difference?

[@andyharman3022]

There is always concern about parts and service support for a discontinued model. I think in the case of Nissan, they would continue support.

[@nismomike3182]

@andyharman3022 Nearly every single vehicle I have worked on(1000's) was a discontinued generation. Never had a problem finding parts for anything made after 1970. All auto manufacturers who sell vehicles in the USA are required by US Federal Law to have oem part support available for any models they have sold for a period of 10 years.

[@TheBillykurtz]

Can we get a best slightly used truck deal? Something between 10-50k miles year or two old no accidents. That is the vehicles a lot of people look for when shopping. Not brand new over priced craziness.

[@pw2725]

Wait for the new trucks to start discounting aggressively & slowly the lightly used ones will come down as well. Right now the lightly used are still way to high

[@alg003]

50 grand for a plastic fantastic truck that won't last 100k miles is absurd and not remotely affordable. Affordable is like 30 grand.

[@jghall00]

Check new vehicle prices lately?

[@alg003]

@@jghall00 that's what they are

[@ryansheard8092]

🤦‍♂️ I guess you haven't owned a newer truck. The VAST majority of them will last over 200K miles with little to no issues. Just because you don't like the current market, don't lie to yourself so you feel better.

[@garysarratt1]

“Won’t last 100k”? Aaargh…

[@jghall00]

@@alg003 Point being, this pricing is normal. Even a civic can be optioned over 30k.

[@The1stMoRice]

People sound just buy heavy duties. More truck for comparable cost. Also don't have to worry about start/stop and cylinder deactivation killing the engine.

[@keon8625]

I disagree. HDs cost a lot more to register in certain states/provinces, they ride worse, are usually quite a bit larger (so they're harder to park and drive) while also being heavier on gas. IMO the midsize segment should be moee popular. I know tons of people who have an F-150 or Tundra but would be better off with a Ranger or Tacoma for their use. Conversely, I have seen only a few people who needed more truck than they had. The only fault with smaller trucks is that they severely lack rear seat room, so if you have children in car seats, you'll likely need a full-sized truck.

[@vaughanmatthewc]

Oh no. The dash doesn't have a super computer and a big screen TV. So old and out dated, no body would want a simple easy operable dash in a vehicle. Everything wrong with modern automobiles.

[@2001sixflags]

Thank you, TFL team. I know it’s not always easy to find a reasonablly priced new car.

[@williampisano7573]

Please show the lightning pro f-150 ev starts at 50k I have seen 3k off the 2023 models with taxes credit under 40k for a crew cab 4x4 work truck

[@williampisano7573]

Thanks 🙏

[@andrewsbbq]

lol I’ve given up on trucks. We have the money, but have more sense. Bought a very nicely optioned hybrid crossover and will rent a U-Haul pickup for literally dollars a day for when we take the boat to the cottage in the spring and home in the fall. The crossover can tow our utility trailer and ATV just fine. Trucks have always had huge margins but now they are about 20-25% more than they should be.

[@ajs96350]

I remember test driving a new 1998 Ford F150, 5 speed manual 4.6 v8 with a $19,000 sale price.

[@Cloud30000]

You should have seen the asking prices on the trucks back in the 70’s.

[@ajs96350]

@@Cloud30000 A wee bit before my time.

[@bradboyd883]

Andre said no work trucks, then picks a Ford work truck…😂

[@garysarratt1]

So you ignored his explanation for your little hot take.

[@bradboyd883]

@@garysarratt1 So… I heard what he said, and I saw the trucks he chose… Now you mean to tell me that the Chevrolet and Ford dealers didn’t have comparably equipped or priced trucks on their lots? For example Ford has the STX which is one step above the XL (work truck spec) and is comparable to the Big Horn… And the Chevrolet wasn’t even a crew cab, so that’s not comparable either… And btw I watch just about all of their videos, and really like the vast majority of them, but I will mention it when I see discrepancies like these in this one. Because I am not cross shopping 3 totally differently equipped and priced vehicles. I decide on a price I can afford, THEN I look at trucks in that price range… I am not saying I still wouldn’t have picked the truck he picked, but make it as close to apples to apples as you can, because total price and value are not the same. The Ram had a MSRP of 63k (before incentives) and Chevy had one of 43k, that’s 20k difference…

[@bryanhersman4037]

​@garysarratt1 so he shouldn't have said no work trucks. I'm positive thar Ford dealer has 30 normal xlts on the lot.

[@Cloud30000]

I ignored the “no work truck” thing, and assumed he just picked the least expensive truck in stock at each dealership to point out what the dealerships are stocking.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@bradboyd883 You make a very valid point. You can't come up with an idea for a video than fallback on "no Toyota available, no crew Chevy, but here's the comparison anyway"

[@ericchill864]

Way too much still. The crash of just about everything is just around the corner, though, soooooooo.

[@shuttlepilot_]

Was at our local Auto row to go to ford parts. Absolutely no where to park at any dealers because they are packed with unsold inventory. New vehicles everywhere.

[@timothyreents9826]

$46k for the base Ford seems expensive (I know that all of the vehicle prices have climbed significantly over the last few years) and I dont want a four cylinder in a full size truck. The 25 Ram would be my choice considering the different trucks, their options, and capabilities.

[@BoostedYote]

Well I can promise you one thing, you would regret that decision after about 10k miles 😂 stellantis makes absolute garbage vehicles. ASK ME HOW I KNOW!

[@Oljeepguy]

@@BoostedYote They all make garbage....and good. i have owned over 80 vehicles, all brands, foreign and domestic, truck, cars, and SUV's. I have had great ones, good ones, and terrible ones. My more recent experiences have been a 2019 Ram 1500 Bighorn Offroad, a 2014 Jeep grand Cherokee, and a 2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee. The 14 GC went 140k before we traded it, and it was flawless. The 19 Ram spent a third of its time towing up to 9000 pounds, and the only issue was a cracked exhaust manifold (and i will give you the fact that is a problem that should have been corrected years ago), and the only issue with the 22 GC is the troublesome U-Connect 5. I have two friends in my coffee group, one whose 21 Ford F150 with a 5.0 ate up the valve train and required a new engine, and the other just had the complete 6.2 engine replaced in his 23 GMC Denali. We could also talk about Toyota's new 3.4 V6 that is suffering catastrophic failure. Agreed, the jury is still out on the Hurricane 3.0. Only time will tell. Do I like what Stellantis is doing to the Chrysler brands? Absolutely not. My newest truck acquisition? Low mileage 2007 Dodge 2500 4x4 with 5.9 Cummins. Way less complicated and way more reliable. Perfect truck? Nope. but I like it. Good luck with your future automotive experinces.

[@slowblueoval1997]

MSRP 62,0000 for a Bighorn that is crazy

[@99-Zulu]

I wonder if the reason why GM went with the 8 speed instead of the 10 speed for the 2.7t, is that the turbo engine would accelerate quicker than the 5.3 v8. It's only pushing out 40ish less hp but turning out almost 50 lb ft of tq.

[@Jay-me7gw]

I dont think it would be faster, but not much slower. But the 2.7T has better usable power with its 430 ft-lbs at 3000 rpm.

[@toddbob55]

I wouldnt buy GM OR CHRYSLER ......For reliability we buy Fords for our business they last the longest

[@ANDthe3]

Need a Denver 100 comparison test for two identically equipped trucks with two different axle ratios. Also do acceleration test.

[@cfasy]

I used to sell ram trucks, and remember when you could get a 4x4 hemi ram warlock edition for 29k new

[@stevenpeterson7234]

My Nissan Titan Pro-4x was $59k. Out the door at $34k. Now that's a deal!!

[@ryansheard8092]

@stevenpeterson7234 🤣🤣....you did not walk into a Nissan dealership and hand over a check for $34K and leave driving a Titan Pro-4X. Period.

[@stevenpeterson7234]

@@ryansheard8092 Yeah, my 2010 Tacoma was $20k trade in and $10k for dealership discounts. So $59k-$20k-$10k=$29k plus tax and 10 year warranty came out to be $34k. Do you understand or has Bidne brain washed you!!

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@ryansheard8092 He probably forgot to mention the $20k trade in.

[@drags666]

​​@@Jay-me7gwso then he didn't get it for $34 out the door, his whole comment is invalid and completely useless to the conversation. Plus he has to be seen driving around in a nissan lol.

[@spartanchirho]

Im working all day, not in my truck. I do not want to pay for all the luxuries and safety crap amd self driving. Ive never had it dont want to. I want mileage, moderate towing, and RELIABILITY

[@Cloud30000]

You definitely want an old basic work truck, with slight additions to accommodate towing needs; it will last forever and you don’t have to deal with the crap they’ve added over the years.

[@scottyellis3442]

The Stellantis is having a lot of trouble with those 3.0 Hurricane engines, so that would be a NO. Actually it would be a no to them all.

[@Cloud30000]

You mean the engines that have just barely hit the market and very few people are driving let alone reporting on?

[@MiddleAgeAsian]

These prices are why midsize trucks got popular

[@anthonyc1883]

Poor Andre. Looked really hot and humid that day.

[@itsjustderek]

I HAVE NEVER OWNED ANY KIND OF TRUCK AND IN FACT I DRIVE A DODGE GRAND CARAVAN WITH 216,000 MILES. TO ME $43,000 FOR THE CHEVY DOESNT SEEM BAD, BUT I AGREE I WOULD PROBABLY TAKE THE RAM IF I COULD AFFORD IT. ONLY REASON I WOULD GET A TRUCK IS TO PUT A TRUCK BED CAMPER IN IT 🤷‍♂️ SINCE I CURRENTLY LIVE OUT OF MY VAN.

[@lesgoff]

5.7 Hemi with 3.92 rear is the best 1500 the best truck I've ever owned. I tow a trailer that's about 7500 lbs and it's crazy how well it performs.

[@billmalec]

Thank God the Ford has a real key and no over sized screen. Still despise push button start. $44,000 is getting there.

[@GreenMountain565]

The Ford had a 12” screen? Seems pretty oversized to me lol. I think the screen in the Chevy was only 8”

[@Cloud30000]

I hate the burst your bubble, but many key-driven ignitions are still digital and turning the key just sends a signal, it isn’t actually the switch controlling power flow to the starter motor. It’s essentially a turn-button start instead of a push-button start.

[@billmalec]

@@Cloud30000 didn't say they weren't. I just find the push button a pain in the ass.

[@nikonmark37814]

I wish TFL would do the most affordable entry level midsize and full size truck comparison, I think you'd get a lot of views and positive comments. I am currently truck shopping and watch all your videos and I've not seen anything affordable yet!

[@Cloud30000]

I recommend you shop for used vehicles if the current lineup seems unaffordable. Nothing wrong with used, as I bought and drove used vehicles for decades before I made enough that I could buy anything I want.

[@MrTabak73]

I understand the intent of the video but practically speaking I would lean towards a 1-2 yr old truck with better features and low-ish mileage. Just don't see the value behind these trucks vs their price point.

[@fu2974]

I remember when $45k would buy you a Z71 loaded. Now it’s just enough to buy you a shell. But all good options you provided today.👍👍

[@christiandrangsholt868]

Ford f 150

[@ThunderandLightningEvPickup]

I never saw that middle seat configuration! That is pretty impressive actually

[@kumudukulasekara6684]

Ever wonder how people can make a business out of reviewing cars? YT is a MASSIVE advertising platform where you are ever so subtly convinced to spend money. And people who don't have the means are made to feel they are missing out. I have spent $750 on things I didn't need. The more you watch, the more you spend. Just buy what you need, when you need it and you will be rich.

[@albertklose572]

I’m telling you to price a nice tow truck! Get into the towing business! With all the crazy prices Repo’s are the business to get into! This way you can buy any truck you want! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🌴🌴🌴

[@WW-wf8tu]

My question is, what is the news on the NEW KIA Tasman? Where are your report(s) about this?

[@user-rp3zc6el9b]

V-8's forever

[@mandingo112396]

I got a '03 RAM 1500 for $600 and spent $1500 to repair everything , That's what I call a good deal.

[@dudeski934]

The very best value you will get is anything built in 2020 or earlier

[@tylerfreeland7358]

Should have done the STX on the F150. Similar priced to the XL and is much better

[@LB20278]

Lots of respect for your sponsor choice and candit comments.

[@0159ralph]

I brought my 2019 Laramie that year used with 13k on the odometer. The price was $42 g and I paid $37 g for the final price with my trade in. So far the hemi and the ZF tranny is flawless, and I have no regrets buying the Ram loaded with equipment. It seems light years since then, but I cant believe how much trucks cost now, starting in the low 40s. Mine will be around for awhile. Especially when its now paid off.

[@stevea3936]

$53000 may sound high, but it’s not bad compared to pricing of the new midsized trucks

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

The Titan is technically still “new” just like the other 2024s you mention, and by far the most affordable and probably most reliable. 0% for 60mo right now, and priced in the 40k range. Some dealers discounting them $15k

[@drags666]

Gross, who would want to be caught driving a nissan

[@Cloud30000]

They are getting harder to find with the specific features you want, but at the discounts offered it’s easy to step up to a higher trim for features you wouldn’t normally pay for but still end up cheaper than the base version.

[@TheCarGuyOnline]

@@drags666people that want a reliable powertrain mostly…

[@kevinostberg1729]

They priced themselves out of my market range a few years back. I missed my chance during "that big flu outbreak" and now even the 'cheapest' pickup is too expensive.

[@jefweb5043]

Great feature!! I just can't get behind the Stellantis RAM whatever it is. My go to is still the XL line from Ford.

[@BoostedYote]

Wise, very wise.

[@youngblood23rb]

How many Ford 150's have you owned

[@jefweb5043]

@@youngblood23rb I'll be the dreaded 50 yrs old at the end of the month! Yeah...ugh! For F150's, I've had a '93 and a '13. I've had an '03 F350 and currently am in a 250 XL 4wd. White basic work truck...8' bed, just plain jane...and I love the set up on it.

[@youngblood23rb]

@@jefweb5043 Had a 2014 F250 6.2L XLT 2wd, rode like it had wooden shocks but the powertrain was bullet proof, 150's have not been as robust in my experiences

[@enriquereboyras4381]

This is not an apples to apples comparison whatsoever. For the ford you should’ve spec’d a low trim XLT.

[@phillipcotten4872]

You didn’t listen…

[@enriquereboyras4381]

@@phillipcotten4872 I did and I watched them have hundreds of other trucks behind the GM and ford they drove.

[@johnhahn8464]

And the gm should've been a true crew cab so ofcourse the price was lower.

[@phillipcotten4872]

@@enriquereboyras4381 apparently nobody listens. Andre made it clear that he treated this like any normal buyer would. He found the cheapest options at each lot for each manufacturer. This was just for his local area.

[@eeee3202]

Really depends on what you consider is affordable. I'd say affordable is < $40k for a brand new one. But we don't live in that type of world.

[@Allegronaut]

I don't need a laptop with a pickup bed, just a simple, reliable hauler with analog gauges!

[@johnnypen]

Look what the government has done to us. 4 cylinder turbo gassers in a full size truck. We are truly in the apocalypse.

[@andywade172]

That engine will Die after 60k miles

[@Getusom]

Cylinder deactivation is a scam….it does save some gas mileage but it ruins the engine….to many problems with it

[@42kubota]

Trident and true Hemi you are correct for best value.

[@honda116969]

I have a Tacoma manual transmission TRD off-road 4X4 payload is only 945lbs! My ex her 2022 Maverick hybrid with 190HP 4-banger 1500+lbs payload! I added sumo springs to the Tacoma so I could carry more weight without it sagging. I don't mind overloading it by 2-300lbs now I just don't go way over. I consider my truck to have a 13-1400 lb payload 🤷

[@kennix369]

RAM has the 6 1/2 box on it

[@aaronbritt2025]

You title the video "cheapest new truck" and show us $60k+ trucks. Needs a less misleading title.

[@markspence3750]

Back in the day, a pick-up truck was $30,000, and a Corvette was $55,000......

[@josefgerken4002]

A firm no on the Ram at any price.

[@cpatton-uo1il]

Will only show 4 door trucks, best bang for buck truck is an extended cab lol...

[@ryansheard8092]

@@cpatton-uo1il and they are basically on usable for 2 people. MAYBE you can force 2 small children to sit in the back, but that's not usable.

[@Bigben-pz8bx]

The Silverado is a double cab. Only ford still makes an “extended cab”

[@bryanhersman4037]

​@@Bigben-pz8bxRam for 2025 also still has a quad cab like that short cab Chevy. They also have Tradesman trim like the XL Ford or the Custom Chevy. The point is just pick a normal crew cab Chevy in a LT or whatever is normal family trim, and a crew cab Ford with the XLT ot compare to the new Ram. I'm sure they all would have been within a $1000 of each other in price and then you could really compare capabilities and features at that point

[@kumudukulasekara6684]

Worst thing to happen in the auto industry IMO was 4dr pickups.

[@Cloud30000]

Every manufacturer has a double cab and a crew cab, but few have a short egular cab or extended cab.

[@Randythesavage777]

There's no more affordable trucks... 💸💸💸

[@marcg.3830]

It’s a joke GM did not give the first three trim levels an upgraded interior, and I’m not talking about the fancy stuff, just the new look and upgraded materials. Ford upgrades all models not just the expensive ones. This is the first time GM has ever done this.

[@jeepguy04]

Actually u can get the same truck in the 3.6 engine for 40;000 u can get the 2500 crew cab tradesman for 48000 this new engine jumped the price way to high for ram

[@derrickfettig9160]

Yeah but the local dealers didn’t have any of those on the lot. He basically just checked current inventory available if someone had to go buy a truck today.

[@qdog494]

IMO the best value right now is the HD trucks. Build one with a base gas engine and it’s the same price as a full size with twice the capability (if you don’t care too much about luxury stuff)

[@ryansheard8092]

@qdog494 but you're gonna pay MSRP. The Half-ton trucks will have large discounts and often times, great financing rates that WON'T be on the HDs.

[@qdog494]

@@ryansheard8092 with an employee discount I got a XLT diesel for under 70k with decent financing. Compared to a half ton in the upper 60s it’s twice the truck

[@qdog494]

@@ryansheard8092 personally I’ve never gotten a major discount off MSRP on half tons granted I’m in Michigan and have only bought 3 at this point in my life

[@GreenMountain565]

@@ryansheard8092There are some large volume dealers you can still get discounts from for Ford & Ram. Not sure on GM though.

[@andyjeffery1660]

Prices are insane! I wonder how the small displacement turbos will hold up over time.

[@TheNewenglandboys]

My choice would be the 2024 Ram with the Hemi and 3:92 axle ratio. As for cab configuration, the crew cab cost more but then you’ve always got it. As for trim levels, spending additional thousands for minor luxuries makes no real world sense, especially given the average length of ownership, though it will give the second owner a deal and a smile. The Big Horn edition is really comfortable, really well equipped, and literally thousands of dollars cheaper. If you consider the extra interest you’ll pay on just those extra amenities alone on those higher level trucks, it gets really serious real fast. It obviously all boils down to money. How easy your money comes, how much you have, and how you value it.

[@captaininsano2777]

Just stop buying new vehicles. Force cheaper prices.

[@Cloud30000]

No one sane is buying a new (or used ‘22+) Tundra, so don’t worry about not featuring it.

[@mikebradford7780]

None of them. Those are $30k trucks at most.