How Much Does Adding a Ton of Off-Road Mods Kill Your Fuel Economy? | Denver 100 MPG Test

[@michaelptm2269]

“If you can afford this your not living out of this” haha great line

[@captainpaddy1524]

The payload of a standard AT4X is around 1250 lbs. All those off road modifications lower the payload even more. Add the Alu-Cab, two people, food, propane and all the stuff needed for a weekend away - That truck is way over its payload capacity. Of course, that has insurance, warranty and legal implications.

[@PeakDecline]

Probably somewhere around 600-800lbs over the GVWR. Here's the thing... I've never seen or even heard of anyone having issues with insurance or legal troubles with this. Warranty is already going to be hard because of the modifications to everything (though also there's the whole Magnusson-Moss if you wanted to fight with the dealer/mfg, so it depend what fails). I've only ever heard people like you stating there will be "implications." But never seen them materialize.

[@jeffrentsch4318]

​@PeakDecline A few years ago truck frames were braking when towing off road campers, don't recall how it worked out.

[@Cloud30000]

Going over payload above the axle and going over payload off the rear bumper\hitch are very different; most of the frame issues is because people tossed too much weight 3 feet behind the rear axle, and physics took care of the rest.

[@jimsomerville3924]

@@PeakDecline It's a good point, I haven't heard of the risks of exceeding weight ratings materialize either. But that doesn't mean they don't or can't with the right lawyer, insurance adjuster, or service manager/manufacturer. I wouldn't take the chance in today's society.

[@StarGateSG7]

All you have to do is get a LICENSED MECHANICAL ENGINEER to inspect the frame, aftermarket shocks, leaf springs, and other vehicle modifications and send that paperwork plus PHOTOS of all underbody and truck bed modifications and additions to the Insurance company with WRITTEN paperwork saying you put these specific modifications on which SPECIFICALLY ALLOW you to carry a NEW weight limit (i.e. say 2200 lbs) in the bed and the Insurance company will check it off and you are now LEGALLY covered. GMC won't cover the warranty BUT you ARE covered insurance-wise with a licensed mechanical engineer's paperwork! That inspection and paperwork is about $500 USD which is good piece of mind! V

[@Thomamps]

How in hell does a new truck not have cruise control?

[@binnie465]

Are you buying a truck or a sedan?

[@windrider65]

I've got a plane Jane cargo van, and it's got cruise control, I won't buy a new vehicle without it.

[@ivaniuk123]

It was his fault. When he selected all the options he didn't include it. I know it should have come by default but still.

[@AlfyPotsdam-wh9vs]

@@binnie465 Yeah, a truck, not Conestoga wagon. That excuse sounds cute but not for $40k in 2024.

[@CS-qc7np]

Drax voice: I’ll do you one better! When in the hell is someone buying a new truck that does not have cruise control? 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@bawintermage8351]

The best thing about an old Ford or Chevy is that they run like crap, but forever, on 87 octane some barbed wire, duct tape and mall perfume sample cards in the air vents to hold down the musk

[@Cloud30000]

Sure, but if they even look at salt, the chassis and exhaust starts to disintegrate, and breathing in what those engines are putting out is no bueno. Unless you live in the southwest, they end up being a short-term vehicle until the bondo starts costing more then the gas to run them.

[@EnufIsTooMuch]

In 1996 I did a 5 week trip from the Mexican to the Canadian border in my 1989 Nissan D21 Hardbody 4x4 pickup. Simple camper shell with all my camping, mountaineering and SAR gear in it. Highway MPG averaged 25, reliably. And that 4x4 never let me down in desert heat or blizzards at 10,000 feet. My "mods" for the truck amounted to the camper shell, good tires and a dual battery system. No lift kit, no nothing else, just lots of camping gear and supplies. Back then it wasn't called "Overlanding", it was just camping out of your truck. What gets me though is how pitiful the fuel efficiency is of the massive over stuffed, over priced behemoths being offered today. Just doesn't make sense to me spending all that money on the fashion statement when you could spend it on actually going places instead.

[@jimballuff3849]

You're right on! also, who in their right mind.. or if they had any common sense to start with would have a BLACK truck?? but that's all you see on the road. How stupid.... It shows every speck of DUST🤣😂🤣😂😁

[@deltabravo1257]

The stuff on the roof and roof rack is probably a good percentage of what caused the bad MPG - more wind resistance.

[@puncht37]

I think most are worried about attention, not fuel mileage.

[@dennisl6198]

Boulder is filled with lonely dudes who want to convince everyone they're outdoorsy. So they destroy the environment.

[@GlennC789]

Yep. My dad grew up in depression California and would laugh at men obsessed with "toys" to the point of going into debt to have extra-fancy ones.

[@FreeTimeFeats]

I mean.. I just like having the ability to leave pavement for a few days and bug off. It's nice when someone compliments the rig but it's not why I'm enjoying it.

[@gtileo]

@@FreeTimeFeats who needs a lifted truck with 35" tires, a winch and a snorkel just to go on a camping trip to a site that had graded trails. its a penis extension lol nothing more

[@ChristopherOvrebo]

I joke with my kid every time I see someone with a rig like this. I say: "oh look, they're going camping" I don't know about everyone else, but I leave all my camping gear in storage containers when I'm not using it

[@Dusdaddy]

Roughly a 30% decrease in mpg between the two. That's pretty huge. My hemi differs that much from empty to fully loaded and pulling a 4k trailer.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Thats because your hemi probably doesnt get 24 mpg empty. Hell, it probably doesnt get 17 empty 🤣

[@0my]

It's the tires

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@0my And the roof top tent. And the lift.

[@Jay-me7gw]

@@0my And the roof top tent and the lift. I went to 35x11.5's on my Lexus LX570 without lifting it and lost almost zero MPG. If you are selective and use a light tire, and one thats not much wider than stock, it doesnt hit you that hard.

[@Dusdaddy]

@@Jay-me7gw Shit no it doesn't! ...lol But that's still a big percentage drop just for tires and some aerodynamic loss.

[@krashnpa]

Those are some good-looking trucks! That AT4x is built to the hilt; it would be hard to do truck stuff with it, but I'd bet it does great for camping/overlanding.

[@christopherkozal7987]

Dang that Chevy isn’t aging well. Going with that cheap black plastic was a bad decision

[@flybyguy1450]

My cadillac ats does a great job taking me camping with TONS of gear, plus i can leave my site setup during the day while i drive to trailheads and go hiking. Not to mention that the other 95% of the time im driving it to get groceries and go to work its far more efficient, safer to other drivers and pedestrians, less impactful on the environment, and less damaging to our infrastructure than an oversized unnecessary ego stroking truck would be.

[@krashnpa]

@flybyguy1450 so... player... you're saying people don't buy Caddies on account of their egos?! 🤑

[@jaydmix09]

Finally, it's an actual good video. It's been a while.

[@poppyneese1811]

You just can’t make these tiny turbo engines sound good, I have listened to so many 2.7 Ecoboost like mine, watched so many after market exhaust on KZbin and not the first did I ever think that sounds better than stock which really don’t make much sound at all. I’ll take quiet over bumblebee farting in a Coke can sound. The GMC does look sharp modified though!

[@oni-one574]

Imo, they don't need to and quiet is a great selling point for the smaller I4 / V4 displacements. Most of the cheap exhaust people put on their vehicles sound awful/obnoxious anyway. V6's sound awful no matter what you do to them. V8+ obviously trumps everything, but society has given up on those (and tbf, the cammed ones like mine are oppressively loud with a full exhaust replacement). One of the major reason why I didn't buy a Ranger Raptor is it's awful, terrible, disgusting sound. One of the main contributors to the GMC Canyon is how quiet it was. Felt as quiet as the Lexus I test drove.

[@Jay-me7gw]

The 2.7 I4 sounds particularly bad. When I test drove one it was a little concerning how clacky and clicky and buzzy it was.

[@upshifter5316]

Yes the only downside to these turbo motors is sound. So if this is your first foray you waste a lot of time looking for an exhaust to “fix” that problem. Eventually you realize there is no fix, so just enjoy the quiet. Exhaust money is better spent on a sound system 😁.

[@andrewb325]

Quiet is the way. Even on my V8 trucks I kept them stock. Take a few long trips and aftermarket exhausts get old fast.

[@HerrPoopschitz]

“Looks sharp”? Id hate to see your wife/gf.

[@stephenmiller5023]

I have added a bunch of similar mods to my 2002 GMC Sierra 2500 H.D. With LB-7 Duramax power and have owned my truck almost 21 years now having bought it used from its original owner after he had it one year only. Before all the overland goodies I used to get 19-21 MPG average out on open highways with same lift , same 37” tires , same factory 3:73 gears Etc. Now with mid height rack in bed , rooftop tent & awning mounted on it & bed mounted storage full of gear , PLUS cab mounted rack with 200 watt solar panels & 8 gallon aluminum solar heated water tank, and Full size swing out rear mounted spare tire set up like your red truck , my milage has taken about a 4-6 mpg hit as well . I have noticed if I can keep boost low ( 5-7 pounds at cruising @ 65-75 mph) I can get close to 16-18 out on roads , but if there’s any heavy head winds or major climbs in altitude and boost goes up into 25-30 pound ranges then I’m lucky to get 10-14 mpg at same speeds. Having the ability though to just about call anywhere , anytime “ Home “ though is “ Priceless” 😊. I’ll be hopefully taking about a month long “ Retirement trip “ next April once my plans materialize and may have more numbers to share from an extended period through 8-10 states here on West Coast including hopefully a return leg through mid -west and Texas to see my Oldest & my grandsons . Money saved at hotels & motels helps pay for fuel economy losses . It’s all in what you prioritize as important to you . Anyway I enjoyed watching this one & Thanks as always for what you do & share . C-ya maybe out on the roads ….😎👍

[@bostondan77]

Still loving your truck Andre!

[@billp5424]

A trip to the scales would have been revealing. Was the speedo corrected for the taller tires?

[@is6566]

Yeah but that would have documented from a legal point of view that they were driving on public roads a severely overloaded truck. Not a smart idea so they skipped the scales. 😃

[@4-LOW]

Tires #1 killer. Rooftop tent #2.

[@deerinmyyard8430]

Adding a "ton" (2000lbs) of gear to a mid sized truck will put it way over the payload capacity of said truck. Andre even showed the payload sticker of his Colorado not long after buying it, and it was way lower than "a ton"

[@backwoodstherapy]

I bet you're fun at parties.

[@YAOZYVIDEO]

A ton is 2200 lbs

[@elche1976]

​@@backwoodstherapyyour idea of parties is being dumb and drunk? Knowing info is good. Maybe that's why the new generation is full of victim mentality.

[@3rdpig]

@@YAOZYVIDEO A ton was originally a measure of volume, not weight. Today a short ton is 2000 lbs. A long ton is 2240 lbs, a British tonne is 2204 lbs. And let's not even get started on all the other "tons" there are like harbor ton, deadweight ton, etc, etc.

[@backwoodstherapy]

@@elche1976 and you're taking a well known colloquialism of there being a "ton of something" and taking it literally for the sake of... making yourself feel superior to people on the Internet, I guess? If I say "man, I ate a ton of pizza the other day," there are exactly zero native English speakers who would think that I literally ate over 2000 lbs of pizza but they also know exactly what I meant. Similarly, someone saying "I have a ton of mods done to my truck" is going to make exactly zero people think he actually put 2000 lbs of mods on his truck. So stuff it. You're not smart, you're not funny, and no one is impressed by you.

[@Deadwood1919]

That camper setup is most likely the main culprit. The weight and drag of that hurts more than the slight lift.

[@richardhouvener6423]

Yup, roof top tents really suck the gas, which is too bad because they are great t use.

[@bubba99009]

Yea would have been interesting to see it without the all the added drag from the tent. Lots of people lift and put bigger tires on - not many people drive around with a bunch of stuff strapped to their roof.

[@sinepari9160]

Agreed on that point.

[@davidjernigan8161]

How many trucks kitted out like this spend that much time off road overlanding that it makes sense to not have a separate econobox daily driver?

[@FreeTimeFeats]

Lol hi. Little overlander boy here. Absolutely got a secondary sedan that is my economy driver for distance and local nonsense that I don't wanna hurl my gear around to do.

[@jimmy-buffett]

I have an extensively modified 4Runner and our daily driver is a Chevy Bolt EUV. The 4Runner only goes out for snow storms and trail runs. The Bolt EV costs about 3 cents a mile to drive. Andre's truck -- the bone stock one -- was just over 19 cents a mile to drive. There are other factors -- insurance, purchase price / depreciation -- but the nice thing about having multiple cars is that you save the miles on each vehicle for only what it's best at.

[@daverules]

need to show off the overlander so people know you are an overlander

[@aerynlovell4754]

On the KZbin channel 4WD 24-7, they replace the truck bed with an aluminum canopy (box). The canopy can be removed, and they use it as a work truck during the week with a flat deck (tray). For trucks that will be carrying a lot of weight, there is a GVM upgrade available by certain companies.

[@PeakDecline]

@@aerynlovell4754 Unfortunately in the US we have no GVM or GVWR (our equivalent) upgrade or recertification process available. We still have all the same modifications. But I've also never heard of anyone in the US running into issues with legal or even insurance with these over capacity rigs. For the most part... no one cares other some people online.

[@Na0uta]

They don't change a lot unless you take it extreme. But overall, just consider the weight and aerodynamics. If you just put all the gear under a camper. You won't have as much loss as mounting to the side.

[@rudedogii]

My 2018 Chevy Colorado was 5600lbs unloaded. That ownly left me 400lbs before I hit the max GVWR of 6000lbs. I can only assume that I was over the max when loaded for a week excursion out in Death Valley. My MPG with 35in tires and stock gearing ranged from 14 to 16 mpg, but I was able to cruze at 80mph passing the Tacomas and Jeeps!

[@thebrothers4311]

I just saw you guys today pulling the tan Tacoma heading east on I70 in the crazy rain 😂😂 I was the crazy driver signaling you guys driving crazy haha

[@BigAl22]

Modding is where it's at! Love when you guys do mod videos

[@rjhein]

That built truck used over 40% more fuel than Andre's truck on the same loop.

[@davidwethington9320]

2 things. Did they correct the speedo after the bigger tires? If not its completely pointless. It will say way better than it is. Also the gm engineers said you get no value for running higher octane the way the engine is designed.

[@jamesoldman3021]

What I find interesting in all these mods is they are done by the weekend warriors. I worked my entire career in the consulting industry and the pick-ups we used were completely stock. Yes we switched tires between summer and winter studded. Vehicles saw limited pavement use with unpaved industrial roads, new construction requiring 4 x 4 and lots of old roads that would equate what most of the weekend types would consider awesome. A few times we got to pull those mods out of a mud hole or snow drift that their massive tires failed in. Personally I think most of those modified vehicles seldom leave the pavement. They are done to impress I don't know who. Now I will admit some do get out there and use the vehicles as they are meant but I bet the stock can keep up in most instances.

[@dominica2765]

Great video thank you but I’m not understanding why you wanted to add extra weight to the vehicle? I thought we were comparing the stock vehicle to an Overland rig

[@C-M-E]

I presume that 100 MPG test in the title should say 100 Mile Loop. If either truck hits 100MPG, I'll eat my shirt with envy.

[@Chopstx98]

The title works once you realize they call this loop the Denver 100

[@TheWoodButcher86]

I drive around 500 miles a week to work so for me, fuel mileage is more important over how much attention my truck gets. It costs alot over time to have those big tires and accessories.

[@jaydmix09]

You guys should check to see if that overland truck is over payload with all of that gear on it.

[@is6566]

My guess that it’s at least 500 pounds overweight. Probably more. They mentioned that rear coils had to be replaced with stronger coils or it would have been squatting on the bump stops.

[@Cloud30000]

I see a lot of plastic; even the bed racks holding the roof tent are mostly plastic. That, combined with lightweight aluminum is probably keeping the total weight of the gear to under 800 lbs.

[@StlrNtn95]

It is a water tank that you can pressurize with a pump. The fitting on the bottom is where you attach the hose.

[@Back24reality]

I used to be all in for lifting and mud grips. Then I had to spend many hours looking for a place to go use it. It don’t make sense. I now have a “grandpa truck, 2006 Cummins that Looks stock. Mich LTX 35” STREET tires on 2018 20’s. I tow a 5th wheel toy hauler. So my combination makes sense for me.

[@PeakDecline]

People like you crack me up. Many hours? OH THE HUMANITY. Rigs built out to the one in this setup are used for multiple week long or even month long trips. None of us with such rigs care about driving "many hours", that's part of the appeal.

[@JMBdevotee]

Curious about the different in wind noise as well... Must be a pretty significant difference. It's one thing if it is just a weekend rig, another if you are driving it daily.

[@stevekniess3665]

Love both of those trucks thank guys . A pleasure watching as always

[@IKnewMickey]

Editing was smooth on this video. Thx for that. Still like Andres truck.

[@ericpowers2469]

2015 Frontier, when new I averaged 15.8 mpg, 9 yrs and 183k miles later, 3” lift, 285’s, full prinsu rack system, snorkel with 3.23 gears I’m averaging 14.0.

[@Valaran1]

Love seeing you guys down the street in Boulder. Would be super cool to come geek out about trucks with you guys sometime.

[@DocGTO]

My truck stock on the highway was 18mpg. With ARB, lift, wheels/tires, roof rack, ect ect ect is 14 at best. 2002 Mitsubishi Montero.

[@ourv9603]

In 2004 I bought a Jeep TJ which came with 225 mud & snow tires. I was getting 21mpg until I upgraded the tires & wheels to 32" mud terrains. My mpg dropped to 15. !

[@jaredmeche6325]

Can't wait for gears to finally be released for the 3rd gen platform. That at4x probably get same if not better than stock mpg with 4.10s.

[@WilliamsonRidge]

Andre you would get closer to that original 26 mpg if you took the transmissions out of the back of your truck, I read somewhere every 250 pounds decreases mileage by about 5% and from my experience that seems pretty accurate

[@lc7192]

Thanks guys. Great video!

[@jacobgreenbough5678]

This is a fantastic question!

[@doughenry7287]

When they built the overland truck and lifted it with 35's, did they regear the axles at all?

[@jimmycline4778]

I think you were showing more than the exhaust, I think you kept flooring it to make sure you beat Andre on the bet for lunch! ✌️

[@kenadam4693]

add a good wind deflector and get proper gear ratio in the differentials and you go back over 20mpg ... wind deflector can be really cheap but switching diff gear can be expensive but it really worth it specially if you drive it a lot or use it off road

[@Norwisco]

Im in love with that color gmc at4x local dealership has same truck 66k is just way oit of my price range what a great looking truck omg

[@shaniyoung6506]

If i was a gmc guy i would definetely buy that canyon!

[@MrFerris1977]

Hey guys nice video! Quick question, what bumper is installed on your AT4X?

[@captainken6310]

Since you said the loops 111 miles I think you should call it the Denver 111 loop…😁✌️

[@jshapiro34]

This is why I own a 2021 Nissan Titan 😂 My pro4x 3 inch lift on 33x12.5 18 grabber x3s pure v8 gets that My wife’s 2022 4runner trd off road 3 inch lift same tires gets 14-16mpgs Full size trucks can roll 33-35s 3-6 inch lifts and gear and still get 13-18mpgs

[@dalesautomotivefsj1606]

It looks like the CEL is on in the modified truck. Depending on what the code and related issue is, that could definitely affect the fuel economy and skew the results of the test.

[@jdwht2455]

You can keep your accessorized up pickups though probably 90+ percent will never see a back country trail or muddy field. I'm quite happy with my totally stock pretty looking Ruby Red Metallic F150 with 3.5 engine at 16.5/22 mpg which is about the same mpg as my last, a heavy (CAT scaled 8360#) F350 crew cab long bed. The gas mileage seems to be a wee bit better with the updated new cam phasers but time will tell on that. As to exhaust sound - it actually seems to growl somewhat in Sport Mode like an older F250 with a 351W and a dual exhaust

[@cup_and_cone]

That roof tent is easily contributing to most of the difference in MPG. Ditch that thing and the difference would probably drop by more than half. Aerodynamics are king for MPG.

[@backwoodstherapy]

I was getting 21-22 mpg in my JLU Sport S 6 speed when it was unmodified. Dropped to 21 or so when it was on 33s instead of the factory 32s. Put a 1.75" spacer lift, dropped to 20. Put on 35s, dropped to about 19. Regeared to 4.88s, went to 18. Put on a steel bunper and winch and switched to a true 3" suspension lift, now I get about 17. Less if I do lots of ciry driving. Highway driving, i can get almost 18. I've driven it to work and almost nowhere else the last couple weeks and the computer is showing 17.9. I'm hopeful I might see 18 mpg by the end of the day. 😂

[@is6566]

Sounds almost like my MPG journey with my mods on an F150. Started at 18 MPG all stock and now I am between 11-12 MPG. 😃

[@danswanson7399]

I'd guess half the difference in mileage is just from the rooftop tent mounted above the cab height.

[@christophercassidy1075]

Enjoyed the video, thanks and really like both trucks

[@matt4262]

Im sure the test is close but its not stock vs loaded. Andre had 2 transmissions in the bed. Thats a bit of weight. The GMC had 91 octane added to it. Probably had 87 in it so it got mixed and the computer didnt have enough time to map out the engine for the change. Still a good idea of what the numbers are about.

[@planetim]

I have a 2023 Colorado with the HO engine. Where I live at 1400 elevation, I get around 20 mpg, day to day, maybe 22 on the highway at 80 mph. When I go to altitude (I have driven it in Colorado, Wyoming, and Northern Nevada) I get at least 5 mpg better fuel economy. I think it's due to the turbocharging.

[@Jay-me7gw]

Its due to the air being thinner causing less aerodynamic drag. In Wyoming you are generally pushing through 20% less dense air than sea level.

[@planetim]

@@Jay-me7gw Makes sense. Thanks. I remain shocked by the difference. Previously I owned a Toyota Sequoia with the same travels, and there wasn't much of a difference in mileage.

[@puncht37]

The thinner air is less through the mass airflow sensor. That means less injector pulse width. So, better mileage with less hp. Turbo or not.

[@planetim]

@@puncht37 Thanks

[@kx8960]

@@Jay-me7gw Thinner air....yes, that will help a small bit on the aero drag side), but the much bigger difference in mpg comes from not having to use as much fuel per mile to get the same air/fuel ration. It's why (long with the added alcohol for winter fuel) your cars get substantially LES mpg in the winter (much denser air).

[@thewireman134]

Please tell us more about the suspension upgrades in the at4x

[@edaddyx2hansonjr436]

So. Why have the extra weight in the colorado? The purpose was to compare trucks loaded and unloaded, correct?

[@jaderhuff81]

Someone gave that red gmc the Toyota Tacoma magazine accessory treatment 😂

[@Youtubeuser1aa]

Don’t care need it 😅

[@butchgreene]

Do they have the same gearing?

[@EGGINFOOLS]

Yes

[@nickanderson5825]

Yes and how much are they different on ike? Can u ike and compare the modified one?

[@Captain-Awesome]

That’s a great looking Rig!

[@Colorado-overland2020]

Man what a truck!!!

[@kj64gaming19]

Cruise control is literally the most useful car installation. I don't care if my car has no power seats, power windows, automatic headlights, or any fancy electronic stuff. If it doesn't have cruise control, im not buying it. In my car if i get stuck behind somebody who isnt using cruise control on the highway, i lose my mind trying to keep a good distance behind them without them speeding up and slowing down by a couple mph.

[@KurNorock]

Lifting my truck and putting bumpers and whatnot on it did not affect fuel economy at all. The ONLY thing that affected fuel economy was larger tires. My 08 tundra went from 18-20 with stock tires, to 10-12 with 37s.

[@whocaresjustdoit]

Yeah it’s crazy how the Tundras, even the new ones, suffer from larger tires. A dealership near me put 35s and a 3 inch lift on a Tundra hybrid and it now runs 12-13 mpg highway lol. Meanwhile, my Raptor on 37s still push out 19-21 mpg highway in Oregon…

[@KurNorock]

@@whocaresjustdoit It's not just Tundras, it is every vehicle. Larger tires are the bane of fuel economy. The raptor is an exception because it was designed from the ground up to run larger tires in the first place. If I were to regear my axles in my Tundra I would get much of that fuel economy back.

[@g4do]

That 2.7 liter should have been put in the 4 cylinder Camaro, instead of the 2.0 liter .

[@ALMX5DP]

The 2.7 wasn’t yet developed when the Camaro received the 4 cylinder treatment. If it was not killed off, I suspect it would have transitioned to it like the Cadillac did.

[@guentherwilke2055]

Since GM doesn't call for 91 for the Turbomax engine, regardless of output, it would be a great test to see if it makes any difference over 87- Denver 100 loop, towing acceleration...

[@lilsammywasapunkrock]

It would be 85 octane in Denver.

[@MeGaTrOn361-j6d]

Roof top tents are overrated.

[@kx8960]

I have a 2024 ZR2 (the blue one Andre saw a couple months back when I talked to him at a mutual friends house) and I'm not getting near that mpg using premium as well. Now, I'm typically doing 85 on the highway and when passing people have to....er...bump that limiter on occasion (LOL), but I typically get 18 (calculated, as the dash is always about 1mpg optimistic). Now, on my first Moab trip I averaged a little over 19 on the tank there and tank back averaged, so I was real happy about that. And on one tank on my recent 3,700 mile trip to Glacier Nat'l Park and back, coming from the saint Mary side back to my hotel in Whitefish, I got 21.3 I think, and was TOTALLY surprised at that, but I was going pretty slow. Average on the dash for that whole trip including 1 1-/2 solid days of offroading in Moab at the end of it, was 18.4, so, figure maybe 17.4 actual calculated avg for the whole trip. Considering I fought some hellacious headwinds winds/rains in WY (Surprise! LOL) in a couple of the travel days, climbing to higher altitudes several times (Beartooth Pass, Logan pass, etc.) and with getting maybe 10mpg while wheeling, I thought that was pretty good. I put 45psi in my tires for highway travel to try and get more mpg (I'm positive I get at least 1mpg over the 46psi recommended), but I think the difference in tires from my ZR2 (much knobbier) has to make a much bigger difference in the difference in mpg. As always, great vid!

[@Serge89dude]

You can tell Roman really wanted to do this interview with Tommy 😂 @ 4:05

[@scottbenke7182]

he said "tell me"

[@srt10h4rml3ss]

lol nice. I'd love to convert my Trail Boss to an Overlander.

[@ramgabe1027]

Do the same test with the 2024 silverado 1500 4x4 with 3.0L. 6in lift on 35 or 37 vs stock.

[@Austinandjules]

Andre what axles are you running under the Russian van. I assume you got David helping. Better be dana 60s front and rear

[@fix4dirt]

I think the camper setup killed gas mileage. On this Ford, the lift took of maybe 0.5 mpg, tires 1, winch bumper 1 or thereabouts. Now Im at 12 mpg😂 But on the flip side these old Fords Chevies etc just keep on running

[@jmanultra]

I’d like to see an mpg face off between the Gen2 and Gen3 Colorado.

[@foxtrotdeltausn4757]

Just going from 31 inch stock to 33 inch tires, same width cost me 25% of my fuel economy.

[@Darth_DC]

What's the front bumper setup on the red one??

[@nlken7175]

Love theses test. Now where's the Trailhunter to test?

[@lunamaria1048]

Would have liked if the Chevy was unladen, but either way, excellent video as always!

[@craig8638]

That’s a big difference.

[@davidlefranc6240]

Pretty sure the customers would love to have a 4 banger similar to ford much more economical and why not a little 6 banger too 1 engine ain't enough choice in my opinion !

[@J.Young808]

14:46 there are many people that live out of tricks like that full time

[@Kushgroove234]

What mud flaps on the trail boss ?

[@kevinsimmons7182]

Don’t the engines have different tunings of the 2.7?

[@the305hauler]

Booyah 👊🏽 😁 👍🏽 🇺🇲 Too darn expensive 😫 But look good 👍🏽

[@CraigG21]

The lower fuel economy of the built truck, while not great, is still better than a stock truck like Andre’s pulling a small, lightweight teardrop trailer of ~2000 lbs or so.

[@VayaconChupacabra]

"We're paying $4.49999999?! When didn't hat happen?" Ohhhh around 2020.

[@GlennC789]

Stop spreading disinformation - or if you're doing it on purpose, propaganda. Gas prices have spiked dozens of times and unless you're four years old you know 2020 didn't bring anything new.

[@UnyonRing]

Mine isn’t nearly that high where I live but yeah it makes sense the price would go up after a period of extremely low demand.

[@EGGINFOOLS]

2021

[@ALMX5DP]

Depends where you live. I recall paying very near $4 a gallon in 2004/5 in California.

[@kx8960]

In other words, as soon as Joetato was "installed" like a toilet...

[@is6566]

At 07:05 is that a CHECK ENGINE light in the brand new AT4X?

[@saintb1500]

How fast do you guys drive to get that mpg?

[@andrewb325]

26 mpg on an off-road truck is pretty amazing

[@is6566]

Yeah but the Trailboss is not an off-road trim it’s a street truck with some off-road capabilities. A ZR2 and a Bison would be a true off-road truck and they have 16 and 14 MPG because they have more weight and lift and real off road tires.

[@kx8960]

@@is6566 I have a 2024 Colorado ZR2 and regularly get 17.5-18.5 even the way I drive it (85 on the freeway). Not good, but not terrible.

[@is6566]

True. I think the Bison is where it gets really bad but even the regular ZR2’s 18 mpg is a far cry from the 23-26 of the Trailboss that the original poster was excited about.

[@kx8960]

@@is6566 I'd like to see a 100% stock Trail Boss and ZR2 do a mileage test, then swap wheels/tires and re-run the test. I'm not sure that Andre has the HO tune (430 ft-lb) that comes on the ZR2 and 2024 Trail Boss. Since he has a 2023, I "think" he still has the mid tune that has 390 ft-lb, and if so, THAT would certainly account for a big difference in mpg.

[@andrewb325]

@@is6566 its no ZR2, but it has a 2 inch lift with fairly wide 32-inch all-terrain tires. Usually those 2 things alone mean sub-20 MPG on any truck. Andre's also has the high output tune. 26 MPG is awesome considering.

[@jacobjensen8592]

Wanted to see how that shower worked and all the other stuff on the Canyon. Good vid though

[@is6566]

You wanted to see Roman demonstrate the shower? I don’t think KZbin pays them enough for him to do that or that it’s a free of charge enough viewing experience for us to watch a spectacle like that. 😃 Maybe if KZbin pays ME dearly then I would watch it.

[@fvasque1]

I'd take the lifted truck any day!

[@cinder9950]

I've always liked Andre's truck (except for the cruise control)

[@c_solly5892]

You mean to tell me that they were able to add all that stuff to the GMC without needing to add a bed brace? Ford should take note.

[@is6566]

LOL. Good one.

[@ZachMauch]

87 is sitting around $2.75 here in OKC.

[@davidwethington9320]

AT4X was only rated at 17 mpg from the factory.

[@cobhamlondon]

Wait, Andre truck doesn"t have cruise control??

[@guentherwilke2055]

That's the first we've heard of this.

[@backwoodstherapy]

​@@guentherwilke2055lol, no. It was in the very first video he did of it. He picked it up and was like "where's my cruise control?!" It was in several videos after that and if you look at the comments, people gave him crap about it for a long time. He was quick to order it and didn't pay attention to standard features and didn't realize it was an option, so when he ordered it, he didn't get that option. I think getting it is just as simple as replacing the steering wheel with one optioned for cruise control, however.

[@guentherwilke2055]

@@backwoodstherapy I'll use a heavier coat of sarcasm next time. Andree's missing cruise control has been a running joke since day 2 of him owning that truck. Cheers.

[@KevinatorPhase1]

For the life of me, I cannot comprehend why a 3rd Gen Chevy Colorado Trail Boss does not come with FOG LIGHTS. STANDARD. Don’t even have to be LED. I’d be satisfied with Halogen. But no fog lights at all, on an off-road oriented mid-size truck !?!? Not even offered as an “upgrade” option!?!

[@KevinatorPhase1]

I know, I know…Get the Z71 or ZR2..blah blah blah. LoL