I Got Banned for my Muslim beliefs

I Got Banned for my Muslim beliefs | MekkNetwork Ep 4.

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ssbMekk

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@minixlemonade 6 ай бұрын

I am not Muslim, but the Smash community has completely gone downhill since it became so closely attached to Twitter.

@ToaIdar 6 ай бұрын

very true. Been blessed since deleting my account back in 2020

@wesleyeast5079 4 ай бұрын

You're just right, I'm sorry about the ban Mekk. It has gotten out of control and people nowadays need to dominate anyone who disagrees with them. Its sad.

@queuedjar4578 6 ай бұрын

As someone who's in and out of Houston Melee and did a great job of getting along with people and enjoying the game and competition, I've personally witnessed people from this scene say way more heinous and violent things about people than what Cilan has done on twitter (which is basically nothing since what he said could be taken as a joke, wasn't even addressed to anyone in particular, and basically would have had zero effect on anyone's life until someone arbitrarily decided to throw a fucking fit about it), and have heard worse stories, even right in front of TO's. Many of these people are still in the scene with no sort of repercussion. They really don't care as much about inclusion as they say, probably some of the least inclusive people on the planet in their backwards thinking. I'd wait for them to scour the web and find this very comment to ban me but I'll save them the trouble of getting rid of another passionate Melee player who brings dedication and money to the scene. They've tried their best to kill my passion for the game.

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@queuedjar4578 stay strong brother, find the diamonds in the ruff. These people are reprehensible

@zorthonthedevistaorscott2481 6 ай бұрын

Just go to mana monthly it’s much better

@brickkid30 5 ай бұрын

Agreed, the melee community is so toxic, censoring people that disagree with them, but if u want to get this point across u need to seperate this argument from your personal beliefs

@BeeBN 6 ай бұрын

I got banned from a Melee group for NOT LIKING AND SHARING a post about lgbtq, wtf? these people need to accept that their group is a niche taboo and move on instead of forcing it on everyone else. respecting is one thing but forcing me to take part is literally cult like.

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@BeeBN would love to have you on the show to talk about this. How can I reach you?

@paperbags1924 3 ай бұрын

I want to go to platfight Kissimmee which would be my first tournament but I am a devout Christian and can’t get behind the LGBTQ ideology. I’m thinking about going to preach the gospel to my competitors. I’ll probably go 0-2 tho lol at least I’ll get to tell 2 people. We’ll see how that goes

@ssbMekk 3 ай бұрын

@@paperbags1924 you’ll get instabanned bro😂 they are lieteral lgbtq supremacist and will spit on your faith and see it as a threat

@Milesrgomez Ай бұрын

I agree with the principle of not banning people for religion for the sake of it, however the Ryan Garcia post does come off as condescending due to the last bit. I see an argument for that ban. There is a difference between someone admitting to being religious and saying " According to my faith, i believe men and women are meant to be married" and saying that you want to see people rot in hell for lifestyle choices.

@randyrz5214 4 күн бұрын

This is unbelievable. Literally no free speech from the people who believe in human rights and all that shit

@DuBLD33 6 ай бұрын

individuals beliefs should remain as such... it is nobodies business what someone intrinsically believes in - as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. ESPECIALLY in the realm of competition. If someone wants to air their beliefs to the public, they should do so in a way that does not attack or cast down others, but instead lift up and rationalize their own as they see fit. Saying something to someone's face is completely different than posting online, because at the end of the day, unless someone is specifically mentioned or tagged, viewing anything online is someone's choice. If they are offended by a public opinion, there is basically nothing that can be done about that (and shouldn't be done about that, trolls been trolling online since the 90's). Saying the exact same thing to another's face could and should be viewed differenly, as it is now directed towards a particular person, and they would have some reason to believe they are being attacked (maybe). That being said, in my opinion, certain opinions such as "I don't believe in homosexuality" doesn't need to be said at all. It should be private and have no bearing in the public sphere. In this scenario it is called for because of the discrimination from a competitive environment - but TLDR such individual beliefs should remain an individual's (and posting online about such things is basically airing private thoughts, which shouldn't be done, but is allowed because of free speech).

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@DuBLD33 the melee community is an international multicultural worldwide phenomenon and should hold itself to a higher standard of inclusivity to realize not everyone agrees with LGBTQ principles

@reDD9869 5 ай бұрын

@@ssbMekk"my intolerance should be tolerated".

@CallMeAGansterOfLove 5 ай бұрын

Please re read what you wrote until you see the irony @@ssbMekk

@prizm9515 6 ай бұрын

Than you for being a beacon of truth.

@g2128 6 ай бұрын

If I was there, I would be Bring it on, because they use fear. That or just leave, that works too

@oceanwaves83 6 ай бұрын

It's one thing to tell someone "You can't say X" Ok, understandable. But when they say "You MUST say X" That's completely different.

@dietmarachleitner9319 6 ай бұрын

You see mango or hbox making any trans rights or pride month posts? The message was definitely, you can't say X and should apologize for it, and the answer was "No, i fully believe this is true and will continue to say so" stop shifting the goalposts

@7dogguy 3 ай бұрын

Apologizing didn't work for hax

@dietmarachleitner9319 3 ай бұрын

@@7dogguy he made multiple videos that were just double downs on what he had already said and called them apologies TOs also had no reason to believe he had changed due to multiple leaked DMs/server messages of him reiterating that he still believes in what he said fully

@DIDHEJUST 6 ай бұрын

Truth is an aesthetic… I notice a lot of people posture and talk like truth is more important than anything else, but at the end of the day, most of people’s weird behavior is explained by social psychology. Subconsciously, people would much rather conform to the beliefs of their community than risk losing all their friends. I actually see nothing fundamentally wrong with that behavior when most political ideologies on both ends of the scale stem from a genuine place of wanting whats best for the most people. What am I on about? I think it’s unfortunate how anti-free speech left social media has become, but it’s understandable. It’s just power dynamics, and the same thing would be happening if right-leaning ideology happened to be dominant online. Making a pragmatic decision to “play along” to a slight extent to build rapport with a community you want to stay a part of I think is a respectable move. And you can cash-in on your rapport like spending out of a bank account to take a stand on select issues. For me personally it’s been a great decision I think. I try to choose my battles, if this is your battle, more power to you my man. Just my thoughts, much love

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@DIDHEJUST stepping aside to allow reprehensible behavior and treatment of community members to happen just to appease the social status quo is definitely NOT RIGHT. A good human being, when he sees something is very wrong and sees people being persecuted, will stand up and speak out against corruption. And the melee community is extremely corrupt to the point that it enjoys secular disasters such as Hax$ situation AS WELL as committing clear persecution against MULTIPLE religious competitors. I’m sorry man, but I don’t respect your choice to stay silent in order to be liked, I starkly disagree and think if you truly see something wrong, you should point it out, or watch as society degenerates at your peril

@DIDHEJUST 6 ай бұрын

@@ssbMekkTotally respectable, I’m with you man. I wasn’t clear lol 1. I think there’s an argument to be made that maintaining enough rapport to retain community membership but “cashing-in” to defend a few important things might actually end up having more impact in the long run. Credibility (to the relevant people) requires some sacrifice, but is required to change minds. I want to change peoples minds, not drive them away, and that requires rhetorics and rapport, not truth. 2. When I try to notice the psychology driving people to believe certain things to keep their friends, I’m able to have more empathy for them. … and this is just the conclusion I’ve reached for me personally. Sometimes activism is the way to go, hard to be sure what will have the best result.

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@DIDHEJUST I disagree I think if people ignored rapport, which might change by speaking their beliefs, and they spoke unapologetically to point out what’s wrong, we would have a much better community. It’s the fear of ostracization and the appeasement that is the main issue when fighting back against what’s wrong. Too many people give in to social pressure and it’s a slippery slope to manage how much slack you’re willing to give. I understand your goal but I think there are better solutions. It’s worth debating regardless.

@DIDHEJUST 6 ай бұрын

@@ssbMekk ⁠ ⁠ I think people are hearing you man, cancel culture is real. But I just fear that exercising zero subtlety and extending no generosity to the dominant views will polarize more than improve things. I hate to be a debate bro, but its true that the most disarming thing you can do to your interlocutor is tell them why they believe what they believe in a way that they think is fair, and then you tell them why they’re wrong.

@Ferigore 6 ай бұрын

well if anyones faith(and the rules that come with it) over-write law and or ignore the knowledge that comes from scientific, reproducible experiments, they should be prepared to produce/reproduce some evidence that their faith is real. in germany we just struck down an extremist islamist group because they were proposing sharia law over a state(with no evidence of any god obiously) you have been a great inspiration for me as a smash player and i dont think you should be ousted from the community. i stillt think you are wrong with your beliefs. im saying that as someone that had to work hard(emotionally) to finally shed the bondage of dogmatic religion. best thing i ever did. i still wish you good luck in your endeavors. if you want to be respected, dont disrespect others(even if you think they are wrong in the head/sinners/whatever)

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@Ferigore look, the law in America 🇺🇸 clearly marks out the freedom of religion in the constitution. To me, religion is not a set of shackles, but it is liberating. I enjoy an absolute truth that I fully 100% believe is true and provides me objective morality I can rely on. Thank you for saying I should not be ousted, regardless of your views on my religion and religion in general, I’m glad you agree I should be allowed to practice my beliefs and certainly not persecuted for them. It is barbaric and dogmatic to actually ban people for their religious belief which then becomes ironic, I would be happy to set aside differences to play the game of Melee

@DIDHEJUST 6 ай бұрын

@@ssbMekk Gotta offer my take on faith here. Of course believing something 100% is going to feel liberating, because you’re choosing to ignore the reasonable possibility of it being false. I think a reasonable thing to do is assign a credence to certain truths based on evidence and plausibility. For example I’d assign a 5/10% chance of something like an Abrahamic God existing (after weighing the evidence, etc). If someone out there thinks there’s a 99% chance of God being real on the basis of evidence and reason thats fine. If they’re open to discussion, either of us might be swayed to adjust our credence on the basis of new ideas and info. TLDR: One’s confidence in a claim should be proportional to the apparent evidence/plausibility.

@7dogguy 3 ай бұрын

It's not anyone's decision to tell someone what they need to believe. no one that is against the lgbtq movement in the melee community is telling people that are in the lgbt to stop supporting it. So why should you try to bother someone and try to change how they think about their personal belief system like religion? If Mekk thinks the flying spaghetti monster is his God he has the right to think so it's literally no one's business. As long as people don't bother each other and play the game none of what anyone believes in matters in the context of melee

@nealkelly9757 6 ай бұрын

And how will you vote in November?

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@nealkelly9757 not voting, don’t want my name attached to either of those Zionist criminals

@WattPheasant 6 ай бұрын

How do you know that the Quran is true?

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

@@WattPheasant the Quran has no contradictions while being a poetic masterpiece. Even the greatest poets at the time it was revealed were dumbfounded by it’s complexity and perfection. The Quran reveals many scientific facts that were only much later proven to be true, there is no way they could have known these facts at the time without God revealing it them, absolutely jaw dropping accurate facts. there are many many miracles in it like this, and also mathematical symmetry and more. All of this and much more has helped me come to the realization it is the truth

@reDD9869 5 ай бұрын

@@ssbMekkthe quran has a bunch on contradictions and problematic contents, but every religious book does. You are free to believe everything in a spiritual way

@7dogguy 3 ай бұрын

The bigger question is why do you care if he believes in the Quran? No one's asking anyone why they support the lgbtq community

@ssbMekk Ай бұрын

@@reDD9869no it doesn’t, prove it

@reDD9869 Ай бұрын

@@ssbMekk bro, just do a google search. But even then you will dismiss it, as every believer does. Nevertheless, I think you should be free to have your conservative beliefs. No one should fault you for it. But leave people alone that dont share your agenda as well.

@AK-fh1qz 6 ай бұрын

Subscribed!

@uiripriest298 6 ай бұрын

you meant it to be hateful and hurtful, not just talking about your religious beliefs. Im embarassed for you, convince yourself that you were banned for being religious instead of being a hateful whatever

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

There were two parts to the burner personal insults, and expressing my views the insults could warrant a small suspension and that's only if you're a super weenie, but a year is way out of line, also me expressing my views is totally within my rights. btw don't worry, you'll see the next video, I have been doxxed and someone is threatening to kill all conservatives with a gun. you think they should be banned? or are you completely bias towards leftist and LGBTQ

@uiripriest298 6 ай бұрын

@@ssbMekk why are you talking about politics? Innately we are all biased. Youre a muslim so that makes you biased for that religion too. It's not about insults or expressing your views. You had hundreds of messages that even a single one would raise a red flag for someone near children. Yet alone the hundred messages or so. Talking about children in the way you did, telling trans women theyll never be real women then going on a paragraph rant on trying to make them feel even worse almost as if you are trying to make them kill themselves.

@vivianblue5332 6 ай бұрын

man i used to look up to this guy

@ssbMekk 6 ай бұрын

And now you look down on me from a moral high ground because I disagree with LGBTQ ideology supremacy? Anyways there’s no reason to ban people over that, completely immoral