I got cancelled.

Cancelled, deleted and forgotten.
Iskall speaks about the cancel culture, how he has experienced it first hand, and what future it leaves.
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[@5thsurvr965]

Bro was at his lowest point in life and he still found time to hate on diorite

[@Wilderness-Autorka]

Lol true 😂

[@Bumbulers_Bricks]

Regardless of my opinion on the situation, that still gave me a chuckle at the end.

[@Joe_Payne]

in my opinion he is imagining the diorite is all of the friends he has lost.

[@DEMEMZEA]

Priorities

[@flo_ridin_cracker]

sometimes you got to find joy where you can

[@zigitpoon7756]

REMINDER FOR EVERYONE: if you jump on attacking hermitcraft, you're doing exactly what iskall is against in this video: accusing with unsubstantiated rumors. Though i tend to believe, but the "1.5 hour" thing iskall claimed is not yet proven by any solid evidence, same gose with some of the accusations towards iskall. So when the truth is still unclear, we should retain ourselves and let the professional, the police, do their job. only act untill the truth is unveiled. If iskall's claim is true, we need an public apology from hermitcraft. but untill the final investigation comes out, i wouldn't say any word about the hermits.

[@empyjoey]

I hope this becomes top comment. Everyone needs to hear this

[@cosygoose1813]

I have been saying the same thing from the start. Nothing is certain so you shouldn't believe people based on nothing. And shouldn't just side with the last person that spoke.

[@zigitpoon7756]

As viewer for years, I'm glad to hear iskall's voice on this issue, but what we need is evidence. Unfortunately this video contains zero solid evidence, we still have to wait untill the truth come out.😅 But i'm glad to see that professionals are involved and i chose not to believe anything other than what the police say.

[@zigitpoon7756]

And besides hermitcraft, same gose with the vault hunters situation.

[@zigitpoon7756]

​@@cosygoose1813can't agree more❤

[@totallynotbot8686]

1 1/2 hour deadline is insane, wether you are innocence or not.

[@itsatticuss]

sad how quick people are to turn their backs on their friends

[@DonPepoz]

@totallynotbot8686 Even a Judge gives you weeks or months to defend yourself. Cancel the cancellation!

[@strange144]

@@sanguinelinguine The accusation was inappropriate chats with adult women, for anyone not in the know.

[@DonPepoz]

@ On the same token, you learn who are the true friends… the ones that stick by you.

[@ro-q7621]

I 100% agree....

[@heidikindon5182]

Honestly if you start a plain old let’s play I would watch it.

[@bradywalker5291]

Yeah, same tbh. I lost interest in Iskall just because his videos seemed like burnout, and as if he *had* to make videos. I'm not a big modded guy, so I never bothered with stuff like vault hunters. I used to watch a lot more religiously. But a SSP series would be fun, I think. Less rules, less things to worry about, less focus on time frames, less cooperation in order to make videos. More freedom overall.

[@lamarckleland5731]

I would love to watch a let's play with Iskall and Stress where they just build at their leisure, but Iskall is pretty much done with vanilla Minecraft, I think, not much chance of that happening.

[@heidikindon5182]

@@lamarckleland5731 I guess you can get so good at something that it’s not fun anymore.

[@IsabelleMahon]

@@heidikindon5182 same

[@Webzpsy]

Let's go!+!

[@le_quenzy8456]

Let's be honest. We, as mere viewers and drama readers, should not spread hate on the basis of what we have seen. I have seen the girls' screenshots, and i can say no more than "this is an awkward conversation". Is iskall married? I have no idea. What was iskall's intentions? I have no idea. Does he deserve the alligations? I have no idea. Did the girls lie or tell the truth? I have no idea. Is iskall lying or telling the truth? I have no idea. We have no idea. Writing hateful messages to people you don't know anything about, is a harsh thing to do. Let's stay neutral untill people get “convicted”, or in this case the truth comes out. Please think again before sending a mean or hateful message out into the world. Be the better example and wait for the news to have an opinion, that does not necessarily need to be stated anywhere.

[@arinaloginova]

this needs to be pinned in every post on earth. ppl just cant control their stupid emotions and think they can say anything on the internet. i hope someday they will understand that words have weight

[@simplysmiley4670]

To be honest this seems to be happening more and more lately. With for the most part false allegations for _some_ reason getting thrown at whoever's popular enough or in enough power over _anything_ be it some game's server, a discord server, etc. :/

[@doomhammer5517]

Well said good sir.

[@MannyDarquez]

this needs to be top comment for everyone to see. not just this video. but all allegation and drama videos. Well said, SISTA

[@le_quenzy8456]

@ I'm a sista tho, but thx mate xD

[@collins3725]

Giving someone an HOUR to join a hearing is wild.

[@mikzikomax1851]

Yup, they are toxic people 😂😂😂

[@Rychleji]

Yes. Quite upsetting if true

[@J0RDIMAN]

I think the reason the Hermits acted so quickly is they were scared of potentially being dragged into it and having their own reputations and incomes affected. Everyone who jumped on Iskall likely would’ve jumped on Hermitcraft as a whole if they found out that the Hermits knew and hadn’t acted immediately. Doesn’t make it right, but unfortunately that’s kind of how you have to do PR in a toxic, cancel culture society.

[@BigMchicken]

@@mechatengu7368 They do not deserve a answer. They were against HIM and HIS life the hermits have no right to get involved. He was told to deal with the situation in such way anyway. If the hermits cannot be understanding of this then people have the rights to call them toxic.

[@Helm_Met]

​@BigMchickenbut take in mind from there POV one of the big things about HC is it's 'vibe' idk how to explain it but the one of the first things emphasised was that no children where involved tells you how the community responses and again it was shitty in their part but bare in mind from what iskall has said their was likly a manipulator and likly some of the dev staff wanted to use this as on opputetbtuty to take over vault hunters. HC was shitty with it but tehy are also humans and likly acted quite rashly and yeah. They couldve handle it better but with how the internet is they very much ran for the hills

[@unfortunatedisgrace246]

iskall did the only right thing and brought it to the police. also reminder that the Swedish police is very different than e.g. the u.s. one!

[@BigMchicken]

Very true Sweden is very strict on their crime especially situations like this.

[@callumfletcher5625]

I'm just curious here, but do they operate differently there? I'm from the UK but didn't consider that tbh. Either way, following the police was the right decision.

[@ThylaKing]

@BigMchicken Yea, looking at eurovision.

[@AmbientSteve405]

Yes. From what I've heard, the crime rates in Sweden are very very low, and for good reason. I'm happy to finally hear Iskall debrief us on how these allegations were false, and how he's navigating this challenge (even though I never watched any of his videos until this one).

[@BigMchicken]

@@callumfletcher5625 they are just a lot more strict on their rules. All I know tbh.

[@flemaster12]

It's sort of funny how you state not to blindly listen and raise your pitchforks, but the comment section seems to be doing that on your side too. Nobody has the capacity to have a unique opinion anymore. Don't believe anything these people tell you. We don't know the full story, and it's unfair to take a side here without clear evidence. Until he posts evidence and proof, you should be cautious.

[@flemaster12]

@dino_drawings I love that you hear one side of the story and are already dead set on it being true when the other side is far more conclusive

[@flemaster12]

@dino_drawings that's not what I said at all, I'm trying to tell people that are blindly believing him to be cautious

[@flemaster12]

@dino_drawings you should always wait for the other side

[@scradsmc]

@@flemaster12 Or the Legal Eagle Video.

[@etherankai7577]

innocent till proven guilty not the other way around

[@ETHowie1]

“Guilty until proven innocent” is the best way I’ve ever heard cancel culture described.

[@u32_nekomata]

​@@souplife1 ​ He HAS NOT BEEN proven guilty in a court of law and only by "she/her" Trainies like yourself. STFU and cancel yourself. I am thankful of your display of GUILTY until proven INNOCENT though. Look at THIS guy @souplife1 when you are ever in doubt of in dubio pro reo .

[@Sehajthehedgehog]

@@reinbew62 That's the original saying. “Guilty until proven innocent” just describes cancel culture

[@zandgall1837]

@@vljYWOK well that's not entirely true, it depends on the boundaries of the relationship

[@tetrahedron4752]

​@@souplife1I was going to accuse you of treating adults like children and acting like they're incapable of making informed and logical decisions because a fucking minecraft youtuber texted them about sex. But if you're an adult and you really have opinions this fucking stupid, then maybe you're right - maybe some of you shouldn't have the right to make your own decisions XD

[@diobrando2160]

it's mob rule

[@madgenta]

8 years just to be dropped like a dirty sock at the first rumour spread. The internet is a terrible place to be famous

[@_HanaPanda]

I know I certainly won't be watching hermitcraft again. That's despicable to do. Even after he asked them to wait!

[@daseapickleofjustice7231]

Truly merciless, then again who are the majority teenagers and children who watch to know better. The only ones to blame are those at Hermitcraft for taking the word of gossip without maturity.

[@ParallaxJack]

@@_HanaPanda Same, total BS and fake af

[@aikigrl1]

I watched Hermitcraft for years, following only a few of the hermits and Iskall is one of them. For them to just do this to him after being part of the group for so many years and seemingly friends with so many of them, to drag him through their version of justice with no semblance of fairness is just complete shite. They have been running out of steam for years and Iskall is one of the reason I still tune in occasionally. Guess that's my tiny viewership gone.

[@user-lc1ob7zk4q]

exactly

[@rufavulpes]

ive gotten so used to the internet jumping the gun that i usually just wait a month or so to see what other information invariably surfaces

[@NitroDS]

@@rufavulpes not a single hermit nor the hermitcraft account went into detail on what happened. iskall saying they are spreading rumors is a lie. only those directly involved in the iskall situation went into detail on what went down. but iskall not really presenting his side except for the VH fallout doesnt fill me with confidence in his uuh not guilty plea

[@zhqvt3243]

@@NitroDS It is up to the police not you. You are not the judge on this case. As usual you are another one who is jumping the gun and sending hatred without any idea why. Stop

[@Florence_calls]

So what if they aren't the judge? Does that mean they don't get an opinion? Nothing about this is hating, they are stating how they are unsure about Iskall's plea.

[@Tealz256]

Same here, I looked into what his old mod posted, but it still didn't seem like a full story nor entirely predatorial, so I just ignored it and have been very confused on why HC has been so quiet about it

[@NitroDS]

@@zhqvt3243 imagine calling the cops for some luke warm internet drama, quit the group you have been part for 8 years as a business venture and then blame them for your loss of income. masterful gambit. fact is: we dont know what iskall did. he didnt say. the official hermitcraft account didnt say either.

[@Rundownmoon]

Yeah. I heard the allegations and thought "yeah no i have to wait for iskalls perspective because i dont belive this".

[@niello5944]

I only heard about the drama just today and still looking into in, but the thing that instantly jumped out to me is the entire Hermitcraft community, Hermitcraft itself and more all jumped on him like he's the worst criminal when he didn't even yet properly made a defense for himself and the investigation is still on going. All that rage and cancelling from just one side is entirely stupid and malicious even if it turns out Iskall is in the wrong as much as they think he is.

[@TruSpectrez]

There are 3 sides to every story: 1) Party 1's side 2) Party 2's side 3) The truth. In a Venn Diagram, there's usually overlap somewhere where the overlap is the truth. Now.. how much overlap is Party 1 and how much is Party 2? That's the question. Don't ever jump to conclusions.

[@Lukysao]

Thank you for smart coments

[@rooodis456]

Maybe I don’t know the whole story and frankly I don’t have the time to figure it out, but why is this such a big deal?? Everyone supposedly involved are adults so why is this a problem at all?

[@MSTR_O]

even though this is the truth most people completely forget bout this this. they hear only one part of the story and dont give af bout the other.

[@i007c]

wtf are you talking about mr sherlock holmes

[@nickel-ab]

@@rooodis456 adults can be sexually harassed too. of course it's much worse with minors involved, but harassment is still harassment, no matter the target audience

[@Spartan9285]

Holy shit dude fucking respect to stress for resigning with you

[@fnaffoxy1987]

According to the hermits, she resigned separately from Iskall. No information as to why she did though.

[@Spartan9285]

@fnaffoxy1987 yeah separately from iskall but the fact that even mumbo and grain threw him under the bus is fucked like they’re to two hermits I’d look to who could honestly make a change in the community and they both just fucked him over if I was stress that is not the type of people I’d wanna be around.

[@jaz_qe]

She is so real for that, all of us needs such a friend

[@kezi7728]

@@fnaffoxy1987she left a comment on this video saying “I stand by you fully” so it’s pretty safe to assume that she resigned with him

[@wilkjakub64]

@@fnaffoxy1987 It was stated that her resignation wasn't connected to the allegations, but that doesn't mean that she didn't resign as a protest against how Iskall was treated, and I bet that's the case

[@tituswelch9273]

Diorite in the screen makes me know for sure that he means business.

[@j-bob_oreo]

oww

[@itsLemontree]

Was just thinking that

[@oliverisalone]

If he meant serious business he would have done it face came

[@nerdy_kitten]

lol... did you watch til the end 🤣

[@itsLemontree]

@why? Its his life, his face. He did show his face

[@jackdog06]

As immensely messed up as this situation is (and it is messed up) Likening it to the actual Salem witch trials where women were burned at the stake and killed in front of a crowd feels pretty poor taste.

[@FunDaOne]

Here's what I have to say about the situation to anybody reading this. Don't choose a side, we literally cannot choose a side as we don't have the full story, we never did, and we still don't. Just because hermitcraft pretty much dropped iskall almost instantly with full confidence and "evidence" doesn't mean it's all 100% fact. Just because iskall made one video speaking with full confidence does not mean he's being truthful. the fact of the matter is we literally don't know anything, and unless the dust settles and we see actual tangible evidence about the situation then it's just a he-said she-said and your emotions towards one person or one group should NOT determine what you observe as factual. just be patient and don't decide who's in the right because a reddit reply or a twitter thread told you who to believe. the fact of the matter is we just don't know enough, no one should receive hate or get harassed because of what you believe, because what you believe is irrelevant when you're talking about a situation like this.

[@sylpherione]

I agree with you, I can't understand some people in this comment section spreading hate propaganda when we don't know anything at all.

[@sovinfulzele339]

Right!? We are so unbelievably blind here, that I don't know how it is possible to even form concepts of opinions when we don't have both sides' complete perspectives. I've seen people going absolutely ham on Iskall in the comments, like dude, we get it you're pissed, but he's trying! At least give him some time to voice his thoughts instead of muffling them with allegations...

[@vlogerrista6285]

I mostly agree with you, at least on the harassment and threats part of your comment, but in my opinion, the best option is to believe the victim. Because if you dont, you in the worst case are just as guilty as the perpetrator himself, either by actively engaging with the victim and harrassing them or by simply looking away and enableing them. If then finally somehow the evidence based truth comes out, and it says the victims are not at all victims (wich in this case is unlikely since ive read the statements and screenshots and at least morally iskall is guilty, and since we are not the law or law engorcement, that is and should be our way of evaluating this) then we can always apologize and reinstate iskalls reputation with no moral loss, but when we side with iskall and it comes out he in fact is guilty of what is held up against him, we all would be guilty of wrongfully attacking victims that have already suffered enough. Iskall has a huge following and therefore has a lot more influence and leverage by simply making such a video and to a certain point is able to opress the victims, making them suffer under the sheer amount of people harrassing them daily. You could this way inflict even more mental suffering then what they already are going through.

[@Polygonetwo]

Leaning towards believing the side that's produced the most proof and corroboration is generally the best idea. That said, all the 'evidence' thusfar has come from the victims, which only paints half a story, and unfortunately the proof we've gotten was all screenshots of chat logs, which can easily be faked and is missing notable amounts of context. If Iskall had said literally anything, we'd at least have that to go off. Now that he has...he really didn't say much. So we're left with no concrete proof, and an idea that the police are involved. When that settles we'll likely have more but the law is slow, and the internet is fast. Regardless of which side 'wins', Iskall will have suffered a notable blow due to his silence, even if it was recommended he do so.

[@hendrikwilfriedlaporte5755]

​@vlogerrista6285 the question is; who's the victim in this case? As said before anything on the internet can be falsified, I know from personal experience that some women can and will invent allegations just to hurt you, get your money or simply because they think it's funny to see you squirm and suffer. Maybe you youngsters have forgotten the program 'Catfish' but I most certainly haven't cause I've been a victim of several of those myself. The question is therefore 'who'se harassing who?' and I'm pretty sure it's not iskall since harassers in general don't go to the cops to tell them the story!

[@cmorris7104]

I don’t know anything, but getting a lawyer and calling the police seems like the right move. This stuff has real world consequences and shouldn’t be played using the non-existent rules of the internet

[@mkks4559]

The right move is to actually defend himself agaibst accusations, not against getting "cancelled".

[@cmorris7104]

I guess my thinking was more that his lawyer may have advised him not to respond to the allegations in detail, which I believe is pretty typical for “irl” legal situations.

[@johngranahan6102]

​@@cmorris7104if a lawyer advises you to not say anything regarding a crime you didn't commit, you would probably trust it, but surely Iskall would be fully aware of the online backlash to not let his friends see his messages, there's no doubt in my mind if he said to the hermits I'm in contact with police, don't do anything rash until they finish, they'd have waited, silence can be incriminating despite it being the most prudent course under advise of a lawyer

[@RunicSigils]

Hey now, the internet has rules. They just don't ah... help you in a situation like this. At all.

[@johngranahan6102]

@RunicSigils the issue is, why wasn't iskall aware of what could happen, its naivety at best and playing stupid at worst

[@nathanhollow0]

Hermitcraft played with this guy for like a decade and they gave him an hour deadline? thats messed up

[@404maxnotfound]

We don't know the full context of the hour deadline. For example a hermits come from a lot of different timezones so it's hard to schedule something that works for mutiple parties. Also there's no context to say that it's a 'you go to this meeting or else' situation or a 'we need a emergency meeting to talk about this but we can reschedule if needed' type situation. All we know is Iskal refused the meeting and left hermit craft on his own. Basically just saying don't assume anything negative about the other hermits till we get more details.

[@jakecheong664]

​@@404maxnotfound all the more reason to give him a 24h deadline, no matter what timeline you are at, you will have at least 12 hours of time to contact your lawyer or what not. What hermitcraft did was basically kicking one of their member out of the house without much of an opportunity to explain. You would think a group of adults that have created content for 10 years plus, will maybe think and act more akin to adults, but the way this was handle, might as well just flip iskall off, would achieve the same.

[@ciarangale4738]

It was, almost definitely, a situation where they felt they had to urgently decide something and have a statement out in order to protect their brand. 1.5 hours is "we need this to happen now, and if you cant be there for it, we will do whats best for us regardless."

[@TheDankFarmer]

Welcome to the future, where we allowed a very small group of extremists control every facet of our lives/culture/society. Reject it at every step.

[@navymalfunction9710]

@@404maxnotfound lmfaoooooooooooo left hermitcraft on its own? bro they're minimum 20 people there

[@coinstorm_]

The Hermit's official statement did not implicate Iskall in anything actually. It was worded very carefully and neutrally - stating plainly the facts. Of course, people make assumptions (especially with other MCYT drama) but Hermitcraft can't say anything in Iskall's defence if he did not attend their hearing. All we had to go with was the testimonies of the victims. Iskall trying to implicate the Hermits in some sort of unrelated cover-up is deflection imo and really telling of his character. If he's going down, he wants to bring them down with him. They acted professionally and did not contribute to his 'cancellation', in fact they defended Iskall against unfounded rumours regarding minors.

[@nicholascopsey4807]

Perhaps giving him more than 90 minutes to process the allegations and to seek advice before being interrogated by his employer would have made him more likely to attend the meeting. Hermitcraft wanted to get rid of him, if they really didn’t think that he did anything they would have given him weeks or months for an investigation to conclude.

[@coinstorm_]

@@nicholascopsey4807 ​ firstly, Hermitcraft is not his employer - if they were, this would have gone down so differently because it would have been a legal process with lots of complexities. secondly, he constantly frames the meeting that Hermitcraft invited him to as an interrogation, it wasn't, it was them giving him a chance to talk through his situation so they can disseminate correct information and fight against the very misinformation that he keeps raving about. But when they gave him this opportunity, he just completely disappeared and ghosted them - and your framing of the reason he didnt show up to that meeting as him 'needing more time to process the allegations' is a complete fabrication, he said it himself, he was following the advice of his solicitors. please stop lying and making shit up, you are part of the problem that he is talking about in this video even if you are trying to defend him.

[@drfxgfsdg5198]

@@coinstorm_ you don't know that, you just claim that it wasn't an interrogation. You have as much knowledge about it like every other internet stranger. So don't use baseless claims to counter baseless claims

[@tinahalder8416]

Once the Investigation is completed please release the report. And for hermitcraft, yeah they could have waited.

[@admiralthunderbunny4520]

I can see both sides of this one. On one side, it's an injustice for the accused, until the allegations are either proven or disproved. On the other side, since the accusations were made publicly, the Hermitcraft had to do damage control, to prevent blowback against the other members. Even so, even taking all of that into account, only giving 90 min to come to a meeting is nuts.

[@ult1mat392]

​@@monsterwaillless than a day*

[@benbates4610]

Imagine if he was sleeping as well, he wouldve been screwed over big time

[@ShuskiCross]

​@@benbates4610- He was online and talking... He replied to them to wait, and then decided to resign instead of facing the music in their hearing. It also doesn't match the stories other hermits said where they were in active contact to help resolve/understand the situation. So a whole business of people are either lying, or he is or the truth is being bend pretty far on any side.

[@PFGFrankly]

​@benbates4610 they taken account for time zones. If he asleep or it's super late it would be unjust to send him to a meeting when your tired

[@kezi7728]

I’ve been waiting to hear your side. My only hope is that your investigation and lawsuit can bring truth and peace back to everyone

[@pangkouxiong1244]

I agree. And hopefully bring some perspective as well. Creators are quite vulnerable as anything can be misinterpreted and used against oneself.

[@Myszkou]

maybe not everyone, hermitcraft ppl did bro dirty i get they're family friendly mc youtubers but you'd expect ppl their age to be at least somewhat mature kicking him out like a dog over GOSSIP, it is terrible, and we dont know yet if its even true. im not religious, but anyone supporting guilty until proven innocent burns in hell

[@JasonSpielberg]

@@pangkouxiong1244 a small price to pay for not having to work.

[@ninamercer6807]

Yeah. Everyone attacking him, like the hermits, owe him a lot of money for this.

[@RotalHenricsson]

@@ninamercer6807 why, because they did the right thing with the information they had at the time which he (by his own words) refused to correct?

[@macrobioscopic]

Not hearing the iconic "bye!" is the saddest thing i saw today

[@harpranavsinghuppal36]

and the HALLO... 🥲

[@hitihautriponel419]

he never left, he isn’t leaving. he's just making sure everything goes right, but he's been checking on us silently all along

[@Burbie]

Thats the saddest thing? Not the fact that bro said his career was ruined, his income was ruined, his mental health was ruined... Ok

[@dinodac7941]

@@Burbie i think you've taken their comment the wrong way

[@Kathara91]

@Burbie because it shows how much he was broken...

[@HundreadD]

I didn’t understand your game. Reminder that if you aren’t dead, in jail, or had your channel deleted there is technically nothing stopping you from coming back.

[@Scarpheon]

The subreddit is so delusional right now. Everyone is saying this wasn't an apology. NEWS FLASH, IT'S NOT AN APOLOGY. Why didn't he provide receipts or evidence for his innocence? Idk MAYBE IT HAS TO DO WITH THE ONGOING POLICE INVESTIGATION???

[@JustARegularNerd55]

Ik, it makes me so sad. I'm neutral until the results show up, but saying that Iskall is going to become an Alt-right Grifter is so stupid.

[@Scarpheon]

@JustARegularNerd55 OMG I SAW THAT COMMENT TOO. I’m like wtf? What does politics have to do with this?

[@TheVampireFreddo]

Dude, reddit is absolute aids. Its not surprising that they are this stupid lol

[@backkslashhh]

What does he even have to apologize for?!? These are baseless accusations and he's supposed to just confess and apologize?!

[@sheepycheeze]

@@backkslashhh especially if he says that one of the people who made the claims has done this to another content creator before & he HAS proof, then that is already grounds to not believe or hell, just QUESTION, the validity of the claims brought against him

[@tima780]

I’ve been waiting to hear your side of the story

[@ricksterallain]

I don't even know what happened??? I noticed he stopped posting but had no idea why???

[@Itariss]

this!

[@joshmccarty8800]

@@ricksterallainThe hermits threw their “friend” under the bus on the season about forgetting the rat race and going back to being a group of friends 🤷‍♂️

[@punjra3878]

@@joshmccarty8800 They didn't really "throw" him under the bus though. It was to be expected, that a person would get kicked out of a "business" after they got SA allegations. That is what the culture has been.

[@DyslecticAttack]

@@ricksterallain the other side basically is: People in his community reached out to HC about having questionable interactions with Iskall. One of his mods, the biggest financial supporter of VH, and at least 2 more. The accusations were basically unwanted repeated sexual advances, lying to them about not having a partner, emotionally manipulating pleas to keep the interactions going. So all in all, it's about Iskall conducting immoral and unprofessional behavior. And about making sure more people don't go through those interactions. And when Iskall refused to adress it when reached out to, and instead quit HC, it basically escalated to public statements about the situation from the victims, and the results of the interactions from HC. And with that context, you now have Iskalls first public statement about it all in the form of this video.

[@adhirajdogra25]

Fastest i have ever clicked on a video

[@karasugaming_6981]

As soon as the drop down showed up

[@suptrace_]

Soon as I got the discord notification, I ran out back at work.

[@ashleydawn5033]

Same! I knew there had to be way more to it! Hermitcraft needs to come clean and I mean NOW

[@adhirajdogra25]

@@ashleydawn5033 ya maybe especially the 1.5 hour time given to him feels wrong

[@DiNoX_2009]

Fr

[@MicrowaveOvenVideo]

This comment won't last long, but every bit of constructive criticism or criticism is being deleted from the comments Edit: It seems that the comments are starting to stay, many (including my own) original comments were deleted but later comments remained.

[@LimeonCandy]

Replying to see if this comment gets deleted

[@aimansoul]

yo

[@witchBoi_Connor]

Sea lion

[@L-ghtlessSky]

o7

[@piotrwaniek]

I don't know what you're seeing, but for me about hald of the comments I see here are telling people to not believe Iskall or the accusations until the dust settles. A reasonable take. I wouldn't be surprised actual libel isbeing removed, removing it is his prerogative, but criticism is very much available here.

[@F3nrisTAG]

Innocent or not. We need to get back to a place where innocence is presumed until proven otherwise.

[@MrPopTarted]

But he isn't innocent. All of the things he was accused of DID happen

[@Pinkintu]

​@@MrPopTarted genuine question, how do you know that? If you don't know anybody involved personally, you can't say for sure that it did or didn't happen. Until the investigation is complete, we don't know if it is true

[@vit.budina]

@@MrPopTarted help me understand, this is the first video I have seen about this. From what I've seen, it's all just alleged, not proven. Secondly, flirting with a woman of age is not illegal, even if she's his coworker. Iskall doesn't strike me as a malicious guy, and even if the woman felt uncomfortable due to his actions, he certainly doesn't deserve to have his life ruined to the point they kick him from Hermitcraft. Deciding to go public like this is a failure on her side, this could've been resolved behind closed doors with the authorities, going public in a day when even made-up allegations can ruin someone's career should be the last resort.

[@jamaldavis2480]

@@vit.budina Honestly from my knowledge it seemed like some ploy to take over Vault Hunter that went out of control and here we are.

[@felipewilliams3047]

The idea of innocent until proven guilty is a set standard for the courts in order to avoid biases during trials and future judgements. The same standard is not necessary for the public, since controlling that is physically impossible. People will judge, they are in their right to do it. Informed or not, they can get assumptions and act upon them.

[@burgerxxl6115]

Wherever the truth lies, Iskall shared his side of the story respectfully and professionally. We should approach the situation in the same manner, refraining from prematurely judging Iskall or the members of Hermitcraft. Let’s not forget this. The Hermitcraft community never has been, and never will be, a place for hatred or disrespect.

[@DreaminHero]

i am with you brother

[@andrisbalodis2222]

But it was. He was treated badly by Hermitcraft members. The ones who demanded response in 1.5 hours should resign. He should sue them for spreading rumors and demand to pay for damages, for lost revenue. It would be only fair.

[@dablooneconomy]

Yet they dissrespected the man. For what proof we have been shown, there was no reason to treat him like that. They know what kind of power they hold and should be held responsible for the damage they caused.

[@zackwilcox3183]

​@@andrisbalodis2222 agreed whoever pushed all this should be sued probably for defamation , however original post is still accurate to say "the community" isn't about that hate and everything the official members of hermit craft at least imo are separate from "the community" we as all things considered ignorant public viewers have no real ground in the matter , it should be handled and resolved by the people actually involved ( accuser , Iskall , "professionals" in hermit craft that pushed the directive" Iskall bad ") in the whole ordeal.

[@lemonnpuff8737]

​@@andrisbalodis2222 what rumors did the hermits spread? They made a factual statement and then have stayed quiet.

[@TurkeyTueky]

folks, don't bother with the pitchforks and just observe and see where this goes. just watch and observe from afar.

[@jarjarjarjar3981]

But you see that's not how the internet works. He's guilty until proven innocent and even when he's proven innocent he's actually still guilty, they're still going to send him death threats and try to dox him.

[@flazeflame7372]

Agreed unfortunately though a chain reaction happens, when people raises their pitchforks and get disproven, another group of people annoyed rises on the opposite side

[@EthanCole2009]

I think the messed up think here, is that people were accusing you of being a predator. Even if you are guilty, the allegations had nothing to do with you being a predator. I even fell for that myself because of all the misinformation:

[@timovanh0363]

Now it’s not our turn to get mad at hermitcraft, iskall or anyone. The thing we need to do as fans is wait till we hear more about the situation. Everyone needs their personal space and it’s for them to figure out they’re all adults. I wish everyone who is included to get the best results and we’ll watch from the outside. Best of luck to all included!

[@NocturneVtuber]

Agreed. One way or the other the truth will come out and once it does, then we can decide who we like but they should settle it themselves

[@cosmic_ghostbruh]

Why is this not top comment so everyone can see this? People are so quick to turn their backs on Iskall or HC but they don't even try to wait and see the truth. Sad.

[@Rivv04]

I'm waiting for a response yes, but I can't dent how uncomfortable HC made me feel on how they handled this

[@MMSisters23]

Preach!

[@PineappleDealer37]

@@timovanh0363 everyone sensible has been already doing that. Everyone not sensible likely won't have their mind changed right now.

[@pizzabruh1223]

Since this was all private I assumed that the hermitcraft team knew something we didn't and thats why they cut Iskall. Now that both sides are out I believe this was made way worse than it needed to be because all of the pieces that weren't private were all viewing Iskall in a negative way.

[@gracedae]

as i understand it: iskall resigned, and stress left on her own accord.

[@sebastiannitu6928]

​@@gracedaeyeah,but dragon bros,ideea and stuff like this got removed or something like this

[@thespudlord686]

No, they didn't They didn't want the allegations to ruin and tear the server apart, and wanted to hear from Iskall before making a descision, he was not cut, he resigned, pay attention to the fucking video

[@JenInMinecraft]

​@@sebastiannitu6928 I do remember a brief rumor on the subreddit about the police being involved or someone getting a lawyer. It's possible that things were already going on behind the scenes, like lawyers asking the Hermits to remove images of Iskall from thumbnails during the investigation/possible defamation lawsuit (I'm not a legal expert, much less one on EU law, so I don't know if the Hermits themselves had to comply with any European laws.). Maybe that was part of the "you have 90 minutes to discuss something before we have to take things down". Then there's the problem of trying to be diplomatic, and everyone reading that in their own way.

[@cakeyeater7392]

When neither iskall nor the hermits decided to release information, I decided to wait for more information before making any assumptions other than that he was confronted because of the negative experiences and resigned. I figured the silence was because of something court related.

[@jaydensydes3478]

i don't find it wholly unreasonable for the hermitcraft collective to want to divest themselves of the drama as swiftly as possible, the entire group coulda been dragged down with you. That being said, the time limit for hearing is absolutely egregious.

[@red_void201]

it reminds me of the Johnny Depp and Disney drama. they dropped him the moment of controversy, even when he was innocent.

[@TheNotSoAnonymousMan]

I remember another group clad try guys having an insane downfall because of a similar situation

[@mimicsforge]

There's absolutely no proof Iskall was given any kind of time limit

[@kiri92azel]

Agree whit this

[@Litro740]

or they could have heard him out, considered the allegations and their merits, and if they realized that they were untrue then they could have stood by one of their loyal members and stood up for the truth

[@agreenkale]

You have been a part of my childhood and gave me hearty laughs after school, and seeing this happen to you breaks my heart. Hang in there, Iskallman.

[@TheYesMan856]

Remember, DONT PICK SIDES TILL ALL INFORMATION IS OUT! We didn't know the whole story when it first came out, and we still don't know it. Wait a bit till you form an opinion. I'm sure the investigation is gonna set some facts straight, whatever the facts might be.

[@bensonjarvis5025]

The same thing happened with Mr beast. I do not know the outcome of that drama but it didn’t start with him.

[@fissilepear7805]

Agreed although the fact that Stressmonster is on his side through all of this indicates at least some truth to Iskall's side. Time will tell though what really happened and it's best to be neutral atm

[@captainnoob5244]

I just want to add as well that the comments on here and the comments on the Hermitctaft subreddit are very different. Whatever you do, don't choose a side yet because the situation isn't fully developed. Assess the situation if you want but please don't take action yet.

[@sammxn-w2v]

or don't form an opinion at all. he's an entertainer not your friend, and these allegations pertain to his social life and aren't criminal in nature. to feel like you have to have an opinion on it is incredibly entitled.

[@mimicsforge]

Sir, undeniable proof of his actions already existed. This video was Iskall shooting himself in the foot given his focus on his actions being "non-criminal" instead of debunking accusations made against him. Nobody accused him of a crime, they accused him of being a total fucking creep, which he objectively is. I suggest you go look at all the screenshots of his conversations with the women who made the accusations. They're pretty gross.

[@katehetherington9009]

I don’t know what to believe but I 100% believe that, even if the allegations are true, they certainly don’t deserve death threats and shouldn’t be brought up to try and destroy your life. We’ve all seen bad breakups, people say silly things in the heat of the moment, but if nothing has happened that is illegal, then it certainly isn’t our business. You work as an entertainer and you’re great at it. I support everyone’s mental health and won’t make a single judgement unless something comes from your proper police investigation. Good luck man

[@kpucccc]

Omg! So agree with you! I can't understand why community made Iskall look like some criminal. Sick American cancel culture.

[@provo-go7717]

@@tallyikroe2476 afaik no actual proof has been brought forward to the public, so the public taking the hermits word as proof and witch hunting iskall is in fact shitty But on the other side of that coin is the fact that Iskall hasnt proven anything yet so its a bit of a limbo atm where no one should actually be blamed, we as the public should just wait till more proof has been shared from both sides

[@katehetherington9009]

@@tallyikroe2476 sorry if I worded it badly, I don’t mean that this specific situation is the result of a bad breakup with silly things said - more that this is one possibility and we simply don’t know what’s going on! I personally don’t have evidence for anything, I can’t know the documents that came out are real but equally I can’t know if Iskall is trying to minimise things he’s done. I don’t know any of the parties involved and it isn’t for me to investigate since that would be horribly invasive to everyone involved. If there is a police investigation and an outcome results from that, then I would judge whether I will support him from that. Until then, there is no reason for a casual viewer like myself to hate anyone.

[@danishverma187]

@@tallyikroe2476 Remember the case of Jhonny Depp. Because of Internet and media we all believed Amber first but the whole story turned out to be much more complicated than what was published in media at first. That’s what most of the cancel culture is about these days where one person accuse a famous person to get fame and money out of it and ruin his life. Even if Iskall did all that we can not ignore the fact that he is an awesome entertainer and has put his whole life in Minecraft and vault hunters. You can not snatch away all that hard work from him

[@MilaDonaldson]

​@@tallyikroe2476 he broke no laws, but they've been doing their best to destroy his livelihood. They even took their personal relationships with him to complain to Hermitcraft, who then demanded answers to his personal life. When people have affairs, the affected don't usually try to have them fired and, and those who do are found guilty of causing financial harm. You cannot try to destroy another's life because you were emotionally hurt choosing to try to have a relationship with them. Even if you work for them. No proof needed...

[@iamthemanwithnoname6140]

I think one of the big issues here is what do people mean by a 'hearing'. Like Iskal clearly thinks Hermitcraft wanted to do a full trial and decide on his innocence/ guilt but from what I've heard they think they wanted to get all the facts together so they could progress from there. So Iskal saying "no" to attending makes sense from his pov as he didn't see a trial as appropriate/ legally a good idea but to Hermitcraft this probably seemed like a massive snub and they felt they had no choice but to remove him if he wouldn't even talk to them.

[@iamthemanwithnoname6140]

I'm inclined to side more with Iskal here but he probably should have gone to the hearing and just told them he has filed a police report and cannot act, then maybe agreed some sort of gardening leave while it was being sorted. That would be the process in most workplaces here.

[@nesmei7005]

@@iamthemanwithnoname6140 pretty sure they and iskall were clear that iskall chose to quit. They just said they need to address it asap.... Kinda reminds me of workplaces when an issue came up they would sometimes call a meeting immediately upon finding out-suddenly an hour and a half sounds like a delay waiting for others to attend... I did wonder about using the word 'hearing' as i think the hermits had said meeting and talk, so you may be right that they just wanted emergency discussion and he felt it may be a legally-not-legal hearing...

[@XannisV]

I partly agree, but to give him just one hour and a half to attend, and just go nuclear after that? That's insane.

[@impish1337]

⁠​⁠@@iamthemanwithnoname6140mate beyond that, what's to say that he didn't say "my lawyer has advised me to to talk about this to anybody, i will leave hermitcraft voluntarily if you so wish"? the hearing was literally within 90 minutes. is that the bigger snub or your friends of multiple years giving not even giving you a full day? without all the facts and empirical evidence, i'm more inclined to believe that the "hearing" was more along the lines of instantly deciding whether to remove him in order to save their own careers as minecraft youtubers, a community infamous for kiddy fiddling, than a casual "yeah alright mate, let's stand you down until we have all the facts here" kind of conversation. it's unfortunate, but the reality is that these guys are running a business more than they are your friendly bloke next door who just so happens to make family friendly youtube videos when you were growing up.

[@iamthemanwithnoname6140]

@@XannisV Yeah, hard to disagree with that. Again it'd be good to know if he asked for more time and just generally how that discussion went. Also was that time random or was it a scheduled meeting time they had anyway and this had been added to the agenda? I think Iskal came in understandably combative but this clearly upset some Hermits who took it as an attack on them. A bit more communication and understanding from both sides would have helped no-end. As people have already said the Hermits were scared so when Iskal didn't immediately respond how they expected they panicked.

[@roryawesometv6356]

I can feel the raw emotion in your voice, you describe cancel culture so perfectly and i feel you have done a very good job on this video

[@greasybunz4169]

When I saw the first video in my feed relative to this situation I was super scared that it was going to be something to do with a minor, not because of any negative thought I have towards you specifically or think that you would do that, it just seems to be the trend on the internet with influencers. But when I watched the video and heard nothing but adults being involved I struggled to find what was criminal in any part of the situation. Very sad indeed

[@BeingHigh559]

For real

[@bigdraycountry764]

So this apparently means that grown adults can't try n find other grown adults so that they can maybe have someone special in their lives? I guess? I'm confused. But if that's the case it freakin sucks to know that and I wouldn't want any part of it. Only if both/all parties involved are of legal age though.

[@ternovnik257]

Nothing is criminal or accused of being so by anyone, and the Hermits were quite clear with that.

[@AliyahTheWitch]

It doesn't matter if what he has done is criminal or not, but he harassed a co-worker by sending pushy flirty messages, which is open for the public to see. He might see that as "consensual", but in reality, he is the boss and she has to accept or get fired. It's abuse of power and just bad morals. He should have kept things professional, and he didn't.

[@greasybunz4169]

@@AliyahTheWitch true, I’m not trying to say that nothing of negative nature went down. However I am saying that given that the situation is not involving minors or anything of that scale of “wrongness” it is very incorrect for this very private situation to be broadcasted to millions of people

[@TheEldritchVoidling]

To all the people upset that he didn’t provide evidence to prove he’s innocent, did you guys really miss the part where he’s been told not not by the police because of the investigation or are you looking for more of a reason to attack and label him? I hope most if not a lot of people realize that laws are different in many different places, the internet dosnt abide by the laws of just one country. As for you Iskall, I saw the accusation videos show up on my KZbin feed, I didn’t watch them because I don’t like drama, and I’d say the way your handling the situation as of right now is the correct one, try and not let others drag you down because they are angry, and I do hope that you are innocent in this situation, but if you arnt, thank you for providing engaging and fun content to watch I’m glad I got to watch you grow and create things that made you happy.

[@Raksarr]

So we created something called presumption of innocence. It's fucked up to expect evidence for innocence.

[@dragonboi173]

Imagine being told you have to defend yourself on something you didn't do in an hour

[@CB-lw7ty]

If he says it's under police investigation then everyone is under the assumption he's not going to be able to show/say much...the point being that he's made a video to proclaim innocence and that everyone is just hate mobbing him with the response of "Trust me guys". There's no "after the investigation I have screencaps to show" or "after the investigation I have X information to show" so we have a clear point that there's something he has that'll prove we can trust him. He's said trust me, offered nothing and complained he hates that he's being cancelled because his life sucks right now. That's not really offering anything to trust it's asking for a pity party, that's why people are complaining that if you're going to make this video proclaiming innocence then atleast come with something to back that up even if it's just a promise of a future video to prove things after a case, that's better than a "feel sorry for me trust me guys" video.

[@C.G.Gaster]

Their minds are made up, they will only change when they have no arguments left and even then that's a slim chance.

[@lordkubikum]

What evidencie does he have to provide? The whole accusation is a consensual chat with an adult. He does not need to prove anything

[@TheThebobb]

Have we really learned nothing from the Kwite situation, for it seems that it has happened again to Iskall. People trusting the word of a "victim" unconditionally, without looking into anything further, refusing to hear from the "accused", and attacking them for absolutely no reason. The truth is that "cancelling" people has a real effect on the *people* behind the screen, destroying their livelihoods, careers, and lives as a whole. It seems that, after you, and Kwite, the internet as a community has lost sight of that fact. Stay strong Iskall, stay safe, and I wish for the best for you.

[@HoverMelon2000]

Reminds me of what happened to GeorgeNotFound too. I don’t really like his videos or anything and I know he didn’t handle his situation the best, but it was the same thing where a woman claimed a bunch of stuff about him and everyone believed her SO MUCH even though it very quickly became apparent that she was lying since her story was changing so much.

[@CedricHorbinski]

It was the same thing with Dream. I'm not talking about the latest stuff, I mean the original allegations against him. Whether you like Dream or not, it was only his word against hers, and the whole internet turned on him even though he was later found innocent.

[@RunicSigils]

Didn't even need further alignment based on what they said in the first place. They admit themselves that the only reason they said anything was because they found out he was talking to someone else the same way. It was jealousy, not because he did anything wrong, at least for the general populace. She thought she was special and when she found out she wasn't, she tried to destroy him. She was okay with being the other woman, but not one of the other women.

[@BryanLu0]

​@CedricHorbinskiWhat are you talking about? I feel like the first drama to come up with Dream was accidentally cheating in speedruns?

[@darkdragoness5]

Stuff like this is why I try to avoid drama involving content creators. No matter whether the content creator is guilty or a victim of a defamation attack, no one wins. Now, I don't think Iskall is entirely innocent in this situation, but I don't think he deserves to be treated like he's the worst person in the world either.

[@MarianaFerrari-x4e]

I stand by you iskall. I am sick and tired of "guilty until proven innocent".

[@saphira_]

Kinda wild im only seeing positive comments given the way the community reacted when this all came out

[@iclaimthisname9767]

It's a bias. The ones who are reacting now are still subscribed, so of course there's a big group of people here who support Iskall / at least had doubts about the whole situation. It's not an accurate representation of what the community as a whole thinks

[@zNauze]

people are fickle but also love pretending they're the nice ones whenever something happens.

[@Jon-rj4rz]

That's what happens when you look into an echo chamber. It's also possible he's deleting negative comments, but I have no idea if he is.

[@brambam]

This is something I've noticed, it's not just a bias, the youtube algorithm more than any other platform actually boosts the comments in favour of the creator, the entire comment section unless you click on recent will support the narrative of the video.

[@SomeChristianGuy9]

​@@zNauzeBelieve it or not dude, some of us just desire the full truth, when we don't get all the sides of the story.

[@UmarFarooq_92]

Vault hunters was the mod that made me play Minecraft in endless hours leading to now making animations about Minecraft. As the internet is dangerous place and the cancel culture is just a gun that kills no matter who shot at whom. I have no comments about it yet but I will keep supporting vault hunters.

[@FineSeasoning]

Thank you for addressing this. And while I can't necessarily take your side nor hermitcraft's until the investigation is through, I do understand having your social life ruined is one of the worst, most isolating things a person could go through, and I send you sympathy for the situation.

[@Querian]

This should be more of the communities opinion. Zero sides and allowing the police to deal with it. It isn't our responsibility to decide who's guilty or not. Let's wait

[@justmarcus33]

@ But the only person involving the police are.. Iskall hermit craft didn't say he was involved in a crime- they said someone felt uncomfortablt come talking about it --- he refused. If he's being harrassed or anything thats totally unacceptable, but that isn't the issue with regards to hermitcraft nor any other accusations . Nobody said he was a criminal they said he was an annoying sexually aggressive creep.... he was asked to give his side and chose not to... which is fine. BUT there's no police to deal with it on the hermitcraft side, they asked him to give his pov he said no, they removed him from a whitelist on a video game server

[@izcody]

You've worded this perfectly, this is a good way to see

[@nomicnevermic]

@@justmarcus33 Being given 1.5 hours to give an explanation with the fear of being defamed and kicked from a server he's been in for years over allegations that might not even be true is *absolutely* harassment. Doesn't matter if not everyone was on board with this, the collective decided not to respect his privacy or the police investigation and turn against their friend over something they don't know for sure.

[@joevile240]

The worst thing he did was cheat on his girlfriend. He flirted with adult women, and when they found out they weren't 'the one,' they went after him.

[@bread5281]

I’m on your side all the way Iskall❤❤❤

[@_GhostMiner]

"Let me introduce the internet. It is an amazingly simple thing. An idiot can use it, and indeed many do." - Hitchcock, but modernized

[@cowserthekhelinace]

Welcome to the Internet, have a look around...

[@_GhostMiner]

@cowserthekhelinace anything that brain of yours think can be found. We've got mountains of contents, some better, some worse.

[@jasonb6570]

I read through all the allegations as they were presented, as soon as the accusations came out, and I never really understood what the actual grievance was. In all the accusations shown, the private DMs, the discord chats, all it was was grown adults talking as they do. Nothing that I saw was criminal, nothing was predatory, nothing was abusive. The worst I saw in all of the evidence presented was (perhaps awkward at times) flirting. Between adults. Even when it all came out I never understood what the drama was about. I'm sorry that your character was dragged through the mud and your reputation tarnished, Iskall. I wish I could give you a hug and buy you a beer. Everything will be okay, man. I know saying that is just an empty platitude, but sometimes we really need to hear it. You'll get through this.

[@carsonarnoldussen7239]

Hermit craft is no place for a sexual degenerate

[@itspooop]

Said adults regretted flirting and saw an opportunity for free clout.

[@Luridum5958]

Iskall was allegedly talking to multiple women at the same time from a position of power, he was their boss, and was seemingly intentionally keeping this information from the women he was talking to.

[@wasp795]

​@@Luridum5958 allegedly

[@Macca-95]

@@Luridum5958 Is it a crime to talk to multiple women at once? If a woman was talking to multiple men at once would you stand behind her public shaming?

[@mehm8fatih]

I had no idea this was going on. I believed hermitcraft make decisions as a group. this is very dissapointing to hear.

[@sc0rch3d]

@@eledatowle8767 whoa whoa whoa....if you have LEGAL advice saying DON'T SPEAK....who cares what HC is offering you or demanding of you.

[@shadowlord0162]

@@zorod5475 same, i still dont get what happened. everything seems so bloated

[@MrTea-cz4dr]

@@sc0rch3d legal reasons could also be a reason Hermicraft haven't said anything either. If we are being honest, as crappy as the ultimate silence from everyone involved is, a lot of it is probably very legally related. Fans of all involved have been the largest driving force for the rumormill, since fans are the ones who don't have to worry bout legal repercussions of spouting nonsense.

[@JavierSalcedoC]

it took the server a couple of dei years to turn into this

[@Dezrakaz]

@@MrTea-cz4drthe issue is the only reason I knew he was being cancelled is because a couple of the Hermitcraft members said it before it was publicly known and they should not have done that. The only person I seen talk about Iskall positively was Etho just talking like he’s on a vacation or something for a bit even though he had already been removed before that video was posted.

[@nintendovirtualboywastakenfsr]

I went on the subreddit after watching this video to see what Hermitcraft was saying about the situation, and it was insanely disheartening to see almost everyone organizing against Iskall *immediately* at the first sign of allegations. For everyone reminding people that we don’t have enough evidence or that not all of the information has come out yet, there were 10 more comments saying “he always gave off bad vibes” or “I knew something was up” about someone who, for all they knew, was innocent. People seem to forget that just because similar things have happened with similar people, doesn’t mean this happened with this person.

[@mdccxxvii]

Iskall didn't do a good job of addressing the allegations, even in this video. He talks a lot about things that don't matter. He doesn't deny the allegations, and he twists the truth of how others have handled the situation. Right now it's hard not to conclude that a) iskall did some morally questionable stuff, and b) the Hermits handled the situation professionally.

[@Sword4000]

I've come to realise myself in the community, people you class as friends come rarely and you need to watch who you trust as they can very easily switch up at their own convenience. Hope you're doing better man, sorry you had to go through this. Stay strong! ❤

[@ZdinoYT2]

Hey sword I like your civilisation videos

[@zaydmerhab6167]

@@Sword4000 crazy crossover

[@Emailminecraft]

Agreed

[@comicculturz8191]

Finnally,someone on the internet who understands from his side❤

[@RonnieMindnutt]

My farts are better than iskall’s farts.

[@Zer0Studioz]

So, you contacted a lawyer (that's what a solicitor is where Iskall lives, right?), and the Hermits kicked you out for following legal advice? That doesn't sit right with me

[@MarEvayave]

@@iamnoone5960 Last I checked, the woman brought the drama to Hermitcraft, without Iskall knowing, which also means sharing private communications with them (which may possibly have been illegal, depending on jurisdiction). Weird to blame Iskall for that.

[@whatTFisThis]

yea gulity or not what the fuck was that, id perheps temporarily ban him until things were sorted out and not say anything public about it until they have a solid answer

[@joseph7471]

@@iamnoone5960 So, If I slander you in a community in which you participate, it would be the best course of action for them to ostracize you? Entirely ignore their history with you and attack you in emotional and personal ways?

[@fitzfizzy]

He wasn't kicked out, he resigned. Significant difference, it's hard to say how this would have turned out

[@Lilpenguino1028]

That is my understanding of solicitor and I agree. Though for some reason I enjoy hearing Iskall say "solicitor" and imagine a noir private detective lmao

[@FasterOstrich]

Iskall has provided me with so much entertainment and happiness over the years, he deserves for us to hear him out.

[@Kanastacia_]

Stay strong, Iskall. You're not Hermitcraft or the allegations people made. You're your creations and your personality. We value that you're standing up for yourself, we know how hard it is. We'll keep supporting you, can't wait to see more of your pixel adventures!

[@themissinglink2481]

These narcissists are the ones doing this to him cause they gaslight, manipulate, smear campaign, spread rumors etc.

[@Vanishing_CinnamonRoll]

I feel so bad because basically everyone is going to get backlash everywhere. I assume most of the hermits didn’t know the full story and they’re going to be hated on for it. And on the other side, Stress and Iskall are getting hate because of this, even if Stress wasn’t involved at all. I feel so bad for everyone in this situation. My heart goes out to Iskall, Stress, and the Hermits as well.

[@yourfavoritedrugdoctor]

wait why is stress getting hate, sorry but i haven't kept up with this

[@fasddfadfgasdgs]

They kinda deserve it. This is betrayal of the highest levels. They could of just said go on break til this is over. Vs Accusation of saying you got 24 hours to comply.

[@tgmaps]

The member hermits certainly but I couldn't give a damn about the controlling hermits.

[@enderjedi9581]

Definitely with stress, but I want to know more before making a judgement.

[@GikamesShadow]

@@fasddfadfgasdgs "They deserve it" he says when there is literally no proof out for anything. You wanna do the same thing people did to Iskall? Grow up you child.

[@NalroosKilana]

I was holding out for your side. I know why Hermitcraft did the meeting so quickly, but I hope they can see your side as friends. I hope bridges can be mended someday and that you have support during this time.

[@casualsilver2702]

there was a better way of handling it. This just screams kangaroo court and that there were elements within Hermitcraft that wanted him gone. At the very least, the Hermits could have asked him to quietly not continue making HC episodes and to keep them updated while this was being investigated. Granted I think that Hermitcraft wants a squeaky clean image.

[@wilkjakub64]

@@casualsilver2702 HC is a very family friendly, "safe" brand that's highly regarded for not having controversy. It's understandable why they wanted to separate from this situation as fast as possible. Keeping this on the down low was not an option when there were 3rd party people claiming to be victims, if the whole controversy was sparked as "A Hermitcraft member did X and Hermitcraft protected him" instead of "A Hermitcraft member did X and was immediately removed", the Hermitcraft brand would've been hurt.

[@jagratsingh3664]

i can empathize but not agree and will not they passed judgment on a short order just to save face and betrayed a friend

[@RobertDoornbosF1]

​@@casualsilver2702Mate it's just a server that avoids drama at all costs.

[@unbannablebanjo3744]

@@wilkjakub64 Throwing out a long time member and then individually trashing him is just as bad. What Hermitcraft should've done is what every real life company does: put him on administrative leave until the court case is over. Stand by him until the whole story comes out, one way or another. Then either publicly kick him from the group or reinstate him fully. Instead they immediately labelled him as guilty, gave him no time to defend himself, and threatened to publicly out him. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see where this was going: "You either leave quietly or we kick you out loudly" I'm very interested in him revealing what other scummy things were happening behind the scenes. I like Hermitcraft, but clearly it lost it's soul at some point

[@arokiarajirudayasamy2993]

This world is full of lies and hate even I have experienced this in a another way but I also wish you all to enjoy the happy moments you get I also wish to give all my support to iskall I hope you get a second chance ❤❤❤

[@ChipsAhoy..]

Someone with something to hide will not go directly to the police for help. I've been watching for a while now and I believe in you and wish you the best through all of this!!

[@daseapickleofjustice7231]

He truly isn't even accused of any criminal or morally wrong behavior.

[@ccaagg]

*Even if Iskall did what he's accused of, that's no reason for him not to go to the police.* He is accused of immoral behaviour - that being cheating and/or two-timing with people in his community. That's not criminal and could never be construed as criminal. What this means is that Iskall's going-to-police isn't an indicator of innocence, just an indicator that Iskall wants to protect his reputation through the legal system. The only possible crime here is defamation being committed against Iskall.

[@sanga1380]

@@ccaaggwhat he is being accused of is immoral for sure, but also they are essentially trying to ruin his life and everything he’s built for himself. I’d go to the authorities as well if someone threatened my life.

[@sanga1380]

@dino_drawings I’m aware, but we still don’t know the full picture, so as viewers that have so much power to spread hate we cannot just use that power without knowing everything.

[@sanga1380]

@ agreed, we should pretty much just stay neutral and let things unfold.

[@KingKharnivore]

I've thought something about the whole ordeal seemed fishy. If someone did something to offend me, I would contact the person. Not their place of employment. From my point of view, the people behind the allegations didn't want to sort anything out. They went straight to being vindictive, trying to ruin Iskalls reputation and income. It's despicable...

[@RunicSigils]

​​@@Wynn_The_GamerIt was because the moment he started talking to lawyers etc., they should have just shut up and told everybody else to shut up until it was figured out, not done anything to him until it was figured out, legally. Doing it this way, opened themselves to lawsuits because they were in the wrong.

[@Wynn_The_Gamer]

@RunicSigils we don't know for sure if they're in the wrong. If they're lying, then yes they're in the wrong. But if they're telling the truth, then they're in the right for speaking up

[@parallaxninja456]

They reciprocated his energy but now looking back, suddenly it was "creepy" and "harassment" lol

[@SomeoneWhoExists147]

@@Wynn_The_Gamer It just seems a bit odd to contact the employer of someone about allegations before the police

[@Wynn_The_Gamer]

@@SomeoneWhoExists147 well, most often than not, the police do nothing. I think they originally contacted his friends to tell him to stop

[@SashedPotato]

As much as I'm patient and respect iskall for handling this well, I will still wait to hear more sides. Whilst I trust iskall, I think it's important to realise that his response seemed to pin all of this on everyone hating him and plotting to ruin his career for no reason. That doesn't just happen. It can happen for minor reasons that blow up, but he didn't address those reasons and we are yet to hear if there's any truth to what happened. Nor does this mean we should side with the hermits either. Their response was rapid, which on one hand may have felt necessary, given that there was potential for very serious harm to be caused, but it was also way too unreasonable in terms of timing. I feel like it could have been handled a lot calmer.

[@spark.stream]

Good critical thinking! Though I don’t particularly like that you emply there are sides that we must choose I do understand that for most cases like these there are two sides. I think we need to all be conscious to be polite and not jump to conclusions.

[@SashedPotato]

@spark.stream ah yes, don't worry I wasn't necessarily saying we had to pick a side, I very much misspoke there. I feel like so much was done to hide what's happened that currently we have no idea of knowing how innocent everyone is in the matter

[@colecube8251]

absolutely agreed. There is really no evidence from either side at the moment. I trust the collective of hermitcraft, but that doesn't mean I necessarily agree with their decision. We'll see what happens in the future.

[@rdococ]

Either side? It's innocent until proven guilty.

[@KleptoKlaws]

@@colecube8251actually there is proof from the other side I believe! (Don’t quote me on this)

[@imboredthatyimhere]

Hermit craft didn’t even say any thing incriminating lmao they just said you left on your own accord.

[@carnap355]

they said "we believe this complaints to be credible" which if they are fake would be really bad from them

[@AMomentousMori]

@@carnap355 They said that supposedly after iskall refused to explain himself and willfully resigned, so it makes sense to believe the complaints as there's no argument or evidence against it on iskall's end...

[@carnap355]

@@AMomentousMori there is no evidence on their end either...

[@babai08_]

From the ‘evidence’ I saw literally nothing happened and I always thought it was blown out of proportion. What really got me was Mumbo removing the Sahara merch, was he told to do that or did he do that because he was helping perpetrate the rumours, I find it hard to believe Mumbo would of all people do that since you were in so many of his videos, and had large sections in season 10. I’m really sorry for what happened Iskall, we still love you.

[@MineCreeperLPs]

Likely as a way to defend his own reputation and career. Even talking with someone who is seen as a terrible person can completely end your career. But also we don't know the entire truth. Iskall could easily still be lying. We just won't know.

[@parallaxninja456]

Same it was either a "statement" with literally zero context or explanation and the only "proof" was bro trying to rizz someone up (who was clearly reciprocating that emotion and energy...)

[@Elena-xp9gs]

People taking iskall out of their videos titles and thumbnails felt crazy to me...

[@matiasgeremia801]

As iskall (and multiple people have said already) hermitcraft is a brand, and they do a fair share of "content moderation" as he called it. We don't know anything but at least in what's hermitcraft related I wouldn't be surprised if hermitcraft decided to just disassociate with him entirely. Also, no matter what you think about the situation, it's probably safer to just distance yourself from anyone that's been canceled, it's sad that it is like this but people that mindlessly hate will spread that to everywhere they can.

[@JavierSalcedoC]

the people like mumbo are always the first ones to cave to the rumors

[@mrjoshua17]

I've been extremely uncomfortable with how Hermitcraft handled this. They could've just stated that you had resigned; no additional reason was needed! They claimed they wanted to respect the privacy of those involved, but by making vague accusations without any follow up, they just created an environment where speculation, gossip and mud-slinging flourished. The lack of clarification and moderation was just more fuel to the internet's lust for canceling. I feel for you Iskall.

[@caitlynsmith5873]

You realize if they had only said "He resigned". It screws them all up, thats how allegations go, because it is seen as just hiding the evidence or covering their tracks. There was a reason he resigned, and they stated it.

[@parallaxninja456]

@ I understand it from a PR side as well but is completely cutting off and potentially ruining someone's life over something not even confirmed to be true yet is wild. These were people he was friends with for close to a decade, not some random business...

[@Khual]

It honestly is the community that was begging to know whats up. Like just calm down its non of your business. Let the people who are involved deal with it appropriately

[@DarkAngel-ki3co]

from what I've read in this chat, I only know Mumbo and Grian did something, were there others? I don't have social media because I generally don't enjoy it.

[@Shadowdane]

Yah I thought the way the entire situation was handled by the Hermits was done soo poorly!! I get being transparent about things but it could have been handled a lot better.

[@Plasmagon99]

I hate the "Guilty until proven innocent" mind set of modern culture, at least in the USA until recently the culture was "Innocent until proven guilty" and we need to bring it back. Cancel culture is the cancer culture. Praying for you.

[@brianschoenrock601]

I came here to say just this. At least on paper, innocent until proven guilty, in the US, is the law of the land. I hope you find a way through this dark tunnel. Oh, and that diorite did nothing to deserve that!

[@TheRyepoog]

Nailed it on the head. There are so many sides to any story. And just having accusations can tarnish reputations because this digital age of communication spreads like wildfire when paired with opinions that continually get fueled by rumors. I don’t have a leg to stand nor any facts for this particular story. Hopefully the spiral levels out and everyone can carry on with a sense of direction. Remain strong, let the process do its thing.

[@MegaGamerscast]

Guilty untill proven innocent has become a cultural norm because of legal systems around the world being seemingly inept at charging sexual crimes. If you don't like it, vote for politicians/parties who are trying to change laws around charging sexual criminals to make it easier for these people to be dealt with.

[@lisekiilstofte5619]

agree. It's gotten fucking ridiculous.

[@yungmuney5903]

A felon is president. 😂😂😂

[@MattensKick]

My last boss got fired after getting into a relationship with a "employment center assigned worker" who would have lost her grants if she ended the employment, union came had to saved her ass. No I don't like this, didn't answer anything. Flying another member to Sweden living with her while flirting around, I'm not surprised the minecraft community lashed out. Now there is just open relation support and parasocial fans here not knowing better supporting it.

[@Chi-et3ik]

This exactly! And the "fans" acting like hermitcraft is just a hobby and not a business is weird. If he had no interest in joining the meeting and protecting the hermitcraft name then why should they have keep him around? The hermits didn't even say anything about him and he is crashing out and threatening an "exposé" This video was wild but i hope he can pay some bills with all the controversy he is causing and minds he is warping. Imagine being someone who claims they arent an abuser but giving people room and space to develop mentalities to be one... I'm disgusted. all around

[@BioXx989]

My god it's so good to hear your voice. I'm still here and have been rewatching old playlists as I've missed you so much. Stay strong, there are plenty of us still here for you xx

[@leviphipps7339]

Same bro, missed Iskall so much❤

[@mohammad_khazaee]

Same here

[@TrishaRyan]

Whatever the case is in this situation, from the things I have seen, this is incredibly immature for someone to have gone public with it. Nothing in this situation required the public eye here except the attempt at defamation.

[@broommmstick]

are you okay? like thats a genuine question, no hate whatsoever

[@TrishaRyan]

@broommmstick Yes, I am perfectly fine. Thank you for your concern.

[@PencilMick]

I might be misunderstanding your comment. If you are talking about iskall, he had to say something and let the community know that he hasn't disappeared to Epstein Island or to a diddy party. And that he is, in fact, innocent in this whole situation. If you're talking about the people who allegedly started this whole thing, then yeah it was immature and illegal. It should have never happened. You could say alot of things they should'nt've done/said. But it won't change the fact that it has severely negatively impacted iskalls everyday life, social standing in the community, and potential past, present, and future opportunities. ong just realised how long this reply is. 😅

[@TrishaRyan]

@@PencilMick Yes, I'm referring to the other party of the situation. Everyone is of adult age that are involved. If this matter is serious to have to take action, then it belongs in the hands of a private legal matter; not screenshots sent off to the public. This is all a very intimate and private adult situation that doesn't have anything to do with the world and people outside of it and does not require any of us to have to know about it.

[@PencilMick]

@@TrishaRyan right

[@Bennet2391]

Man this is sad, you ware the one who brought me to hermitcraft and now the bridges to it are burned Getting 1 1/2 hours to PROVE your innocence really just showed that those bridges were pretty flammable in the first place. What happened to "innocent until proven guilty". Crazy times we live in.

[@anotherhumanonyoutube3729]

its the opporsite on the internet, "always believe the victim" they say, with no knowledge of the"victim's" intentions or proof

[@tactician6129]

He wasn't given 1 1/2 hours to prove his innocence. He just had to show up and say he was seeking help with getting protection.

[@sanga1380]

It wasn’t about proving his innocence. It was about just speaking to the hermits about it, he chose to go with the police’s suggestion. The hermits don’t all live in one house, I mean Pearl is in Australia lol, they were all trying to find a time to get together to just speak with a friend.

[@tactician6129]

@sanga1380 exactly. Its so sad that everyone here is just going from one extreme to another.

[@Bennet2391]

@@sanga1380 "Speaking with a friend" and being "summoned to a hearing under the threat of a deadline for being publicly removed from your livelihood" are two completely different things.

[@ClTHtiB]

The spirit of controversy searches for a new host after the Dream SMP has passed on...

[@lionyk6690]

I think you highlight many of the same opinions I had when I first read all the cancel posts. These seemed like personal matters that should have been dealt with outside of the public eye. It caught like wildfire and knowing there was nothing I could say or do hurt that much more. I hope you find that light again and can find a way to move past this all.

[@Schrodingers_kid]

​@@jotasietesiete4397 Unless it's purely there to destroy someone's career, like most of these cases are

[@suzannestone6750]

People choose to jump to conclusions and hate just to hate.

[@SiberianGem]

It was an abuse of power. If they had been people he knew personally, totally away from his content creation then yeah it should be private. But they weren’t.

[@alyero6341]

@@SiberianGem gtfo with that power abuse stuff, the guy plays minecraft on youtube and the "fans" are adults, he aint the teacher of some kids where that is actually a problem

[@Bumbulers_Bricks]

​@@alyero6341one of the people was one of his moderators, making him her employer. And being a KZbinr whom millions of people look up too, does too many put him in a position of power. Playing Minecraft on the internet is a job in the modern world, it should be treated like one.

[@benporteranubisankh]

Bro, my heart broke when I first heard the announcement. When the published testimonies came out, I read them. And you know what, I thought to myself. “What exactly did he do?”. Even if the things the ‘victims’ claimed were true, I saw no crime. At most, some less than perfect personal situations with consenting adults. I’m sorry you got canceled. Looking forward to the Phoenix rising from the ashes.

[@shaneord7527]

My thinking too, though he should have known that whatever he did could not only come back to bite him but also those around him so I can understand hermitcraft asking him to take a back seat while it's investigated. an hour n half is short notice but at the end of the day the allegations could have killed the server and everyone else's careers too.

[@scary8511]

Same I thought I'd lost my mind, those messages just seemed like jokey flirting maybe a bit pushy but that is something that can be dealt with in a grown up conversation. None of it seemed cancel worthy

[@MewLightKitten]

I agree, I never understood exactly what he did wrong since everyone involved was an adult.

[@scooby20121]

@@shaneord7527the main thing is that the it should not have been put out into public as it was all between consenting adults. They were just out to hurt his reputation because they feel they were hurt themselves. A scorn woman is a dangerous thing and I’m only speaking from experience. Should have been kept private. Shame on the people out for revenge tut tut tut

[@scooby20121]

@@scary8511if you’ve watched many of Iskalls streams that’s just him being him just a shame it got taken out of context and not all so called evidence/messages were released. o7 Good Day Sir

[@matthias7534]

Canceled because of chatting with an adult woman? Wtf

[@matthias7534]

@narlowemcfarlowe2952 i mean I have no idea how private conversations between adults concern hermitcraft or anyone at all, it's their private business, I don't care if it got sexual or not, makes no sense for hermitcraft to be concerned in it

[@rainbowtvz]

@@matthias7534 power inbalance, using position as a mcyter as an allure. its skeevy and worrying. hermitcraft had the right to disconnect with him out of said worry about him being a sex pest, or having emotionally abusive relationships, given the power balance. weird how a lot of the people caught in these kinds of allegations refuse to admit ANY fault of theirs. it's always The Cancel Mobs Fault. i don't even know a lot of the details but i think iskall should have not been fucking around with moderators that he has power over.

[@aimansoul]

Internet in today worlds is full of drama queen 😂

[@bllahblubb8072]

@@rainbowtvz At which point in this online power balance thing do people use their brain? This is not a real life "workplace power play" asfar as i know she doesn't work for or under him(personally), right? It is shitty i know but it's an Online community if you are not feeling welcomed or good in this community move on, search for something else it is ONLINE!!!

[@carbonmonoxide5052]

@@matthias7534 It is absolutely important to HC if he was cheating on his s/o with his moderators. Even if that’s perfectly legal, HC doesn’t have to tolerate that type of immoral behavior from their members.

[@lamarckleland5731]

Back in the day I'd have my Saturday breakfast watching Iskall build an underwater base. This makes me sad. In a few months no one will care about this anymore. Give it time, Iskall.

[@ehsaaschaudhary9298]

I don't know who is innocent and who is at fault, but I will say that internet's cancel culture is fucking stupidest thing.

[@hermanphilips4617]

If the accusations are true... it's more like a grey area. Adults interacting with adults. Maybe he got carried away with things, maybe they didn't speak up about being uncomfortable. For all we know, the leaked 'evidence' is taken out of context that will make things worse for one side or the other. Honestly, the 'evidence' I've seen looks like normal inappropriate stuffs. Looks like conversations I've had with other guys... and even, I've had some women interact with me, where the woman was Iskall in the 'evidence'. Now, I'm not saying they should have those conversations... just that it isn't shocking to me. Maybe I should be levying accusations at some of the people I'm in touch with. But hey, maybe the stuff released is only the mild stuff. Maybe there is worse. But if so, that would likely make it suitable evidence for a taking to law enforcement. So yeah, cancelling someone by taking it to their place of work instead of taking it to law keepers... that's stupid.

[@pathological8231]

@@hermanphilips4617cancelling someone for allegations is never okay, unless they’re proven. Allegations are only allegations. Can be true or false. Any form of ambiguity means there’s no universe where cancelling someone is okay

[@hermanphilips4617]

@ I would say the only time allegations are okay is if they are levied through a legal system... law enforcement. I'm of the mindset that even if proven guilty, they may not need to be cancelled. I mean, about a decade ago, one of my uncles got r-worded by an underage girl. He informed police and submitted the security footage of her using his passed out drunk body... and he ended up in prison for about 5 years. So, he was 'proven guilty' in the eyes of the law, for something he wasn't even awake during. So, when someone is accused I want the context for the 'evidence'. And if the accuser isn't doing it through legal action, then I take the 'evidence' with a spoon of salt. And cancelling should never happen. It's just a modern day pitchfork mob... meaning, it doesn't care about evidence, and instead follows the 'guilty until... who cares, just guilty' mentality.

[@pathological8231]

@ that’s what i meant about ambiguity. Cancelling someone is basically outcasting them from society. I feel like that should only be reserved for those who are absolutely 100% proven to be deserving of that, and the law doesn’t always punish the right people, they often get it wrong like you said

[@K9YY]

Then celebrities can get away with literal crimes while KZbinrs lose their career over rumors

[@turningcone113]

As someone who has not been active within the minecraft/hermitcraft community for months, its sad to see someone as respectable as iskall torn to shreds and abandoned by friends. Regardless of if you are innocent or not having only 1.5hrs to prepare a defense for something or suffering the immediate destruction of your entire online presence is fucking ridiculous. I wish you nothing but the best iskall

[@TheRayzerBandit]

That's how being an online content creator works. If they didn't seperate from him as soon as possible they ALL would have gone down as well. They make their living based on their image and popularity as a whole, even with just alligations, If an individual threatens that image then they need to speak for themselves to the group or be seperated from. The way the internet is, there wasn't much else they could have done that wouldn't hurt the entire servers image and all of their career's.

[@logictom7254]

@@TheRayzerBandit no, that is not how it works. that is how it works in a toxic and stressful environment

[@slimstrait780]

@@TheRayzerBandit no, this is exactly the issue. WHY was this whole this publicised in the first place?

[@SamSam-ds9ny]

"as respectable as iskall" you litteraly have no proof

[@Bumbulers_Bricks]

They didn't give him an hour and a half to come up with a defense, they gave him an hour and a half to just come and talk about it. And they didn't rip him to shreds, the community did. (Though still a little unjustly in my opinion, but don't blame the hermitcraft members for it.)

[@erylkenner8045]

This whole situation is sad

[@JediMaestr0]

Yeah this is where I’m at. I don’t think he’s a monster, but I also don’t know what happened behind the scenes and whether the Hermits have more damning evidence. Either way, it’s just very sad that clearly he’s not friends with the Hermits anymore, and we may never see those days return of his silly interactions with Joel, Mumbo, or the Neighborhood.

[@cosmic_ghostbruh]

Real. I'm not on a side and it's hard seeing both the HC community so torn and immature because of this. I still will continue to enjoy HC while looking out for Iskall.

[@erikhanseisenheber]

It's wild how much power a scorned lover wielded. Hopefully Iskall can get some justice out of it

[@Aethynlorimer5936]

People need to learn that influencers aren’t perfect, people make mistakes and making mistakes is fine, as long as you learn from them

[@brendansteckle2523]

omg, i wondered where you went. i hope you find happiness either on here or in life, but in reality, i hope you stay safe and take your time. take as long as you need i’ve always enjoyed your content so i can wait till you are safe again.

[@cleverballoon6535]

People want drama not the truth. Either way its insane how many times I've been told someone was a woman beater or abuser and then a month later evidence comes out they were false allegations. I'm not saying Islall is guilty or innocent because thats not for me to decide, but its insane how fast people go for the throat.

[@mr.bomzalo9563]

Yes, since they want drama they think of it as guilty until innocent

[@goosie6299]

Ive heard my long time friend who happens to be the son of a politician called a pedophile, with 0 evidence, or even rumours aside from him "Being a pedophile." How did people respond? Constant avoidance in school, death threats, and unwarranted hate towards the club he was a part of. Humans do not value truth, they believe what they want to. Its what comes naturally, whats easiest. People will never accept that doing whats easiest is never doing whats right. It takes active effort in life to do the right thing.

[@Panossa]

See "drama is more popular than content" by Jacksfilms

[@yourmomdotcom8934]

@@mr.bomzalo9563no they're believing potential victims. In a situation like this "innocent until proven guilty" doesn't apply because you should be believing victims , even if they turned out to be lying. It's far better to say you believe what you thought were victims until proven otherwise than who you thought wasn't a predator and then it being proved he was.

[@myEGObig]

Even if Iskall is completely in the wrong, which I don't believe he is, infidelity is not illegal, and that's the worst "crime" he has committed. I'll miss seeing you in the Hermitcraft episodes, but I understand separation to this level, and the trust included, are nearly repairable. We all wish you the best, friend.

[@PikachuSmokesMeth]

@@justcallmeness "Abuse of power" is bullshit in 99% of cases where people talk about it, you just want to find an imaginary reason for people to still be guilty even after it was proven they were talking to adults. No, a GROWN ASS WOMAN isnt being taken advantage of simply because someone is well known. Even if its godamn Eminem or some some billionaire, you are responsible for yourself when you are old enough to make decisions, unless they are blackmailing you.

[@hermanphilips4617]

Has a court of law confirmed the evidence? If not, please use 'accused of committing' and not 'committed'.

[@K9YY]

Is it even infidelity lmao? He’s just talking to multiple women, he’s not their boyfriend or husband. It’s extremely extremely common

[@carbonmonoxide5052]

Infidelity is 100% a valid concern for HC. They are supposed to be family friendly, so it should be expected that they uphold certain moral standards (even if that standard is higher than the law).

[@bllahblubb8072]

@@carbonmonoxide5052 "Family friendly" hahahaha yeah right... all online communitys are weird as fck first of all. Second don't have some of the "High positions People" in Hermitcraft married some in the community???

[@praski149]

"Naive and Generous sportsball nerd" should be the new "Very stable genius!"

[@abhijeetvdsh]

I was concerned about you iskall85. All I knew was one side and was waiting for you !! Just don't give up and fight and present your side

[@effien]

Even at the time I was pretty confused as to what you were supposed to have done wrong. Like you flirted with an adult woman, who never told you to stop lol. So what if shes a mod or whatever, shes still a grown ass woman who can make her own decisions lmao.

[@thefirelegend7693]

I think maybe the accusation was different, but he wanted to make it clear that they were *adult* women. I don't know for sure tho.

[@ilove2loveu]

@@lucidattf That's it..?

[@NovaGuardian985]

@@ilove2loveu Oh wow, you're despicable.

[@bobbic3011]

The accusations was that he was being highly inappropriate in way the accusers did not want to disclose and did not provide evidence. So pretty much they were accusing him of something they were refusing to show anyone.

[@GoodasGoose]

​@@ilove2loveuMan yt drama is crazy when you're going 'thats it?' to a guy attempting to cheat on a partner, not once, but multiple times

[@visualizzatoreDiQuartiere]

I think we need a TON more information before making a judgement, and I don't know if we will ever get it. Iskall implied that a lot has been going on behind the scenes in Hermitcraft, and that the evidence that was released was "incomplete" or at least didn't tell the full picture. I think both sides handled the situation poorly, but Hermitcraft has a lot more responsibility in this, as they are a group of people who should have been lucid and smart enough to understand what they were doing would cause a lot of damage to Iskall, while he was subject to the stress of potentially losing his livelihood and was also in the midst of a police investigation. I will need more transparency form both sides, but especially the hermits, to start supporting anyone again.

[@clone3]

yes, especially if the 1.5 hour thing was true that is crazy messed up. Giving one person 1.5hrs to practically decide the rest of their career over something that they are already super stressed about to begin with is so incredibly stupid, and I would expect better from hermitcraft, but it just might be them being soo desperate to avoid controversy and shows that they will drop someone who has been invaluable to them in order to keep their reputation. Hermitcraft is full of smart people and IF it is true, it is very disappointing. However, nothing is confirmed, but it would be very hypocritical if iskall did lie about that as it would be the exact thing he told everyone was so bad (pitchforks metaphor).

[@thegreatbeavers]

​@Oxicin but then that same " victim " likely lied. Bro. Amber Heard tried this bs to Johnny Depp and she LOST. Stop supporting false accusation people whose gold diggers. Iskall been innocent and it's shameful an accuser just wants him cancelled.

[@bobbiannrs880]

@Oxicin I swear it’s like the Try Guys scandal all over again. Ned also highlighted that the affair was between consenting adults, but maybe the power differential was more obvious since she was his literal employee? Idk, maybe the presence of obvious criminal actions would be more concrete, harder to ignore, so their absence makes this easier to dismiss? Maybe it’s people defending their own legal-but-not-quite-moral actions or refusing to consider they themselves might be victims? Or maybe people are just desperate to return to status quo. All I can say is I’m fully capable of being patient and waiting for information (which in my opinion this video was not) because I’m tired AF and I’m just an outsider. I can only imagine Iskall and the hermits (and hermit adjacent) are downright exhausted of the matter.

[@clone3]

@Oxicin of course, nothing is confirmed and if he did do this it's still bad, but all im saying here is that hermitcraft should of and could have handled it better IF what he is saying is true (about how hermitcraft approached him about it). its all a bunch of what ifs and speculation so take everything anyone says with a grain of salt

[@visualizzatoreDiQuartiere]

@Oxicin I understand what you're saying, but Iskall implied that what we saw was not the full picture. If that's true then we cannot jump to the conclusion that he was abusing his power. Nobody in this situation is really being transparent, and I cannot in good faith trust any of the parties involved.

[@mateusznaryniecki6815]

Iskall is literally my favourite youtuber to see this happen to one of the most wholesome people on the internet is awful

[@notoriousshoe]

Just a fan and lurker. Been a fan for years. For me, an adult 2 years older than iskall, and from the things I did read about I felt everything was blown out of proportion. I wanted to say I'm with you. I'm sorry and I'm still a fan.

[@itmeurdad]

I agree it's a little out of proportion. He pulled some nice guy crap and that's not really illegal but it is absolutely inexcusable. The only thing that allowed it to be blown out of proportion is refusing to address it, and running away. The man has absolutely no one to blame but himself in every stage of the situation.

[@kze24]

I always thought that what Iskall did while kind of shady, was blown out of proportion. I'm glad that I'm not completely overtaken by cancel culture. Even him not responding to the allegations makes sense with the police advising him not to.

[@andyyykane]

@@itmeurdad he literally states in this video that he was advised not to comment on it by his legal team. Believe it or nor, legal proceedings trump internet drama and silence is absolutely not evidence of guilt.

[@wafflecodes]

I absolutely abhor the court of public opinion. Exercising silence does not imply guilt and, a lot of the times with public influencers, immediate denial and/or apology messages typically means guilt on some level, so your silence spoke more to the idea that there was more than met the eye than anything else. What bothers me the most is that what occurred, legally, between two consenting adults should have NO bearing on anything. There was literally no reason for it to be made public, IMO. You didn't violate someone's rights, you didn't sexually assault someone, you weren't chatting up children inappropriately, etc. If you know in your heart and soul that you didn't do anything wrong then walk with your head held high. I don't know if you believe in a higher power but when walking through difficult times I always tells my kids that the suffering we have right now is part of the plan God has for our lives because there is going to be something down the road that rewards us for continually moving forward. If you decide to put out content again, my kids and I will be there to watch it with joy in our hearts - and I will continue to support you however I can, whenever I'm financially able.

[@wasp795]

the 5th amendment in us works very well

[@wafflecodes]

@@wasp795 If only the court of public opinion had to abide by the fact that silence does not imply any level of guilt. I remember watching a judge lose it on a prosecutor for making the implication that the defendant not speaking about an incident in the hours after it occurred made him look suspect. Might have been the Rittenhouse trial.

[@lomiification]

his silence is not just his own, vut an expectation that all of his colleages speak on his behalf, for free. well, not just an expectation, but sending his audience to them to pester them for answers, while he gave no guidance, and is now complaining that they didnt give the guidance he wanted

[@wafflecodes]

@@lomiification is there evidence to support that he was sending his audience to pester other people about it? Or, are you just making an assumption (at best) or baseless accusation (at worst)?

[@mixedmina]

Seeing Iskall's side finally is good to hear, i stand strongly against "cancel culture" and it's over the top depressing effects on alleged people. If anything YOU are the victim of the internet despite having served it and make crazy cool and funny content for years. It makes me really happy to see Stress is on your side still despite the difficult situation. i hope for the best

[@darknidus2030]

Why is it that an allegation can do all of this. Best of luck, Iskall, stay strong.

[@Dogflamingo]

Really wanna hear Xisuma's response to this, 1 and a half hours is ridiculous could have easily said a day at least

[@MadCat540]

Why xisumas response? He’s not the one in charge. Everyone has to agree to something for it to be done.

[@Dogflamingo]

@MadCat540 X runs hermitcraft no? I'd assume he'd have some sort of final say here. Either way, I imagine him being a level headed person and no matter which way you look at the situation 1 and half hours is ridiculous

[@Lizotte100]

@@MadCat540 xisuma is very much often the person is charge considering meetings, updates, and server issues. He is also the most talkative about meta topics surrounding hermitcraft as a brand.

[@MadCat540]

@ impulse runs the meetings, not Xisuma. Xisuma just does the admin work like updating the server and making sure everything is running smoothly.

[@edrickang2338]

Even a day is not enough, especially when he’s legally obliged to not say a word. They could have easily gave him a temporary suspension until his lawyer gives him the all clear.

[@andy-p3d2i]

Your videos on Hermitcraft and VH are some of my favorites. If all is well, I cannot wait for the situation to be cleared!

[@AddictiveGaming_]

I doubt he will be joining hermit craft again

[@andy-p3d2i]

​​@@AddictiveGaming_ After this whole ordeal, I wouldn't expect that either. I just hope IskallMAN manages to get through these trying times. Whenever he starts making content again, I will watch :) Iskall, if you're reading this: stay strong! And remember the community that supports you and doesn't fall for rumors without proof ❤

[@oh-facts]

I promise, when I heard about the allegations, I drew 0 conclusions. I just told myself that I'd wait till iskall talks about it. Always trusted you, thanks for keeping it. Love ya.

[@scooby20121]

Iv defended sir Iskall from the very start and Iv had people sending messages of hate towards me for defending him. Il stand by my word as I know all true Iskalls loyal followers will do o7 good day sir

[@Rackergen]

"I drew 0 conclusions. [...] Always trusted you" That's a conclusion. Not one supported by evidence, but a conclusion.

[@Rackergen]

@@scooby20121 Google parasocial relationship.

[@oh-facts]

@@Rackergen zero conclusions on the front that Iskall may or may not have done something. Do I have to dumb this down too or do you understand what I am saying?

[@GenericGames]

You were always my favourite hermitcraft member, really disappointed in how they handled it, out with being work, they were you’re friends, I haven’t watched hermitcraft in a few years, but a solo series from you would be on my watch, keep pushing on you have a reason to breathe!

[@shadowwolf143]

Innocent until proven guilty is how it should be. Not the other way around. I dont know either side of the story, nor do i need to know. I was not involved, and therefore, it is none of my business. Now, if a child was involved, as a mother, i would be invested in the outcome. I do believe many people confirmed that no minor was involved. Iskall, your personal life should never be aired for anyone. Every single person on this earth has made bad choices, trusted the wrong person, etc. Not one of us has a pedestal over each other in that department. And even if a choice was made intentionally knowing the outcome, people have a choice to change their life path and become a better person. I cant stand when some one gets blasted publically with a he said she said and there is not much evidence to go on but the person is still incriminated and forced into silence and shunned. I think you should push on and continue doing the things you love. I cant imagine how hard it must be one way or another to deal with this. I wish you the best.

[@AvocadoTheBugCat]

He was innocent and guess what, when presented with evidence of “lies”, iskall decides to ghost? I very much believe iskall did some things with these women and that alone was enough to get him kicked out of hermitcraft.

[@shadowwolf143]

@AvocadoTheBugCat it doesnt matter what happened. It did not involve hermitcraft nor did it need to become the entire world's business. Not only that, what's to say the women involved aren't the ones lying or causing issues for attention? Why aren't we blasting them as well? Oh they aren't guys. Women are just as capable of being villains. But everyone wants to always blame a guy. I am not saying he is innocent or guilty but no one has the right to blast his personal business on the internet, which cost him his livelihood. How is that right? Until the court says he was in the wrong, no action should have been taken against him. This was wrong on so many levels to just assume anyone was right or wrong. I read the same stuff every one else did. Nut having one side of a story is not proof

[@AvocadoTheBugCat]

"Not only that, what's to say the women involved aren't the ones lying or causing issues for attention?" Innocent people don't say silent and ghost.

[@LunaStargazer]

@@AvocadoTheBugCat I don't think you know the phrase "I want a lawyer" when talking to police. Innocent people stay silent all the time because it is ALWAYS ADVISED, else your words can be twisted against you

[@BonkNoob]

Didn't even know you were in the trenches like this. Since many of my favourite KZbinrs(specifically Minecraft KZbinrs) had been disappearing, i thought it was just normal break time and stuff. Sorry to hear that you are in this situation man. Innocent till proven guilty and myself and many others will be here waiting for your return

[@hazelthio7622]

Hi, I'm fully expecting to get drowned in the comments, But your videos allways meant a lot to me. I'm a big fan of Vault Hunters, and I think I watched all of your videos as soon as they came out. All this to say, I am truly sorry for all that happened, it must have been extremely hard, I hope from the bottom of my heart that you're okay.

[@Zydros250]

Regardless of anyone’s actions on any side this, people can have positive impacts. Iskall is still a human being with value, mistakes or not, egregious or minor. He still makes me laugh, yet it does not excuse the alleged behavior.

[@steadfastwolf2159]

I hope Iskall gets to see this.

[@danibob_]

I feel the exact same. If Iskall does get to see this - I hope he knows that many of us feel for him and hope he's doing okay. We love you Iskall. Your content helped lift me when I was feeling down - and I really hope us as a community can return the favour.

[@vincevannoten]

Dear iskall, I am not here to choose sides but I hope that eventually the truth will come out. After the court case, I will support the side who won and abandon the side who lost.

[@noslinon2470]

Hi iksall, I stopped watching Hermitcraft for a long time now and I wasn't even aware of this situation until i received this notification from you. You've always been my favourite Hermit and I don't know what the hell happened but I know that cancel culture f*cking sucks and it's one of the most disastrous things of our times. I fully support you even though I stopped watching you and Hermitcraft for a while now. I'm sending you my strength in this challenge

[@Pototofri]

He was accused by multiple members of his community of him trying to start relationships with them. Some felt harassed, some felt cheated that he was cheating, and other things. All while talking to multiple members of his community in private (at the same time) he also had a partner he lived with. One of the ‘victims’ (I use that word lightly) brought the issue of some of his creepy DMs to a hermitcraft member, more victims reached out and then hermitcraft asked him to address the allegations. He refused and resigned as mentioned and that was pretty much it, hermitcraft made a simple tweet stating that he resigned and he’s been silent until now. Simply no criminal accusations were just made, just accusations of actions not welcomed in the community and after he left it wasn’t pursued further, (atleast publicly). It seems he’s now suing them for kicking him out and stating there were accusations against him.

[@ilove2loveu]

@@Pototofri If that's all he did this was blown way out of proportion hahaha

[@Pototofri]

@@ilove2loveu it is, he isn’t welcome in the community, okay fine, I see where the hermits are coming from, he should move on and find another community that will accept him.

[@nameredacted6221]

@@Pototofriplus his partner (stress) endorsed him, leaving hermitcraft for him