I got laid off from my glorified tech job

[@jacob-bi9ys]

I'm a plumber, never been laid off or had trouble finding work...of course I'm not wealthy, but I'm comfortable and enjoy my work

[@Jammi354]

Have you seen the latest South Park movie? 😜

[@jacob-bi9ys]

@Jammi354 I don't watch much normal tv...I binge you tube too much. An episode on blue collar jobs?

[@tedchirvasiu]

based plumber weighs in

[@BLT-sr6zz]

Same, I work as a locksmith (self employed) been making 75k give or take for 13 years now. Never been unemployed, and I hear other locksmiths say it as well, we are the *last* group of people anyone should ever want to be out of a job lol

[@moonlambo5229]

Plumbers in my city here in Canada charge $300 an hour....you should be a millionaire.

[@jeffsmith1798]

The economy is not as strong as some would have us believe.

[@TonyTheTGR]

The ECONOMY is doing great. It's doing this by consuming and shitting out working class people at record pace. It's the rest of us that end up fucked.

[@QuickRipzz]

You're saying the Biden administration is lying to us? No way!

[@emilyjones5830]

The economy is down the toilet and will only get worse...much worse.

[@jamalgreen3056]

Yes, and for her to land a corporate job which is what 15% of people most people in this country work in warehouses, grocery stores and manufacturing plants. That is what fills the workforce in this country all general labor bull crap.

[@michaelgreen9484]

⁠@@emilyjones5830have faith, there are great jobs out there as long as you live in the right place (like California or Texas) with the right skills sets.

[@NatalieDormer-or4jj]

Last year, I was working full time, budgeting groceries, unable to afford date nights, and missing time with my kids. Now I learned how to make money online. Now am a SAHM, homeschooling, and making profits every week.

[@ArshbyJushua]

Wow that's awesome 👌

[@ArshbyJushua]

Investing in alternate income streams should be the top priority for everyone right now. especially given the global economic crisis we are currently experiencing. stocks, gold, silver, and virtual currencies are still attractive investments at the moment.

[@MeaganGood-yn9wp]

Am looking for something to venture into on a short term basis, I really need to create an alternate source of income, what do you think I should do?

[@NatalieDormer-or4jj]

Cryptocurrency investment, but you will need a professional guide on that.

[@NatalieDormer-or4jj]

Cryptocurrency/stock investment, but you will need a professional guide on that.

[@celestialblue7229]

Hey, my husband was out of work from the tech industry for almost six months this year and he finally found a job for much less pay because he was getting desperate. A little advice here, it's taking longer to get a job for a lot of people right now so I would advise not to spend your savings on an expensive trip, buying anything big, just keep saving because as things are uncertain, you may need that money to help you pay your rent and bills for a longer time than usual. Unless you come from a rich family, then okay but I would still save your cash as much as possible. There's tons of videos out there just like this one where people have been laid off for months and months now. Best of luck out there to everyone searching.

[@LilyGazou]

Good advice. I’ve been freelance for 25 years. You have to have a stash saved and be willing to do other work to fill in.

[@ericchan5055]

I agree with you 100%. Seems like kids 30 and under consistently do this after getting laid off. So financially irresponsible. Letting their emotions affect their future. We’re about to hit a depression. Things haven’t even gotten bad yet and we’re already in a recession!

[@nirui467]

This is good advice, if you don;t have an emergency fund then you may want to be careful about spending too much. on leisure during your down time. Hopefully, you can focus on KZbin content with the free time and maybe that generates soem side income to tide you over too.

[@Newrivergraphics872]

Retrain as a nurse. Big demand!

[@ericchan5055]

@@Newrivergraphics872 not what I heard recently. Nurses getting laid off

[@frankoh3193]

Based on my 35 years of job experience in the tech industry, it's NOT what you know or who you know. It is all about "who knows you".

[@rejectionistmanifesto8836]

100% the truth, most young people dont know this

[@kennyadvocat]

A lot of fields seems to be like this sadly.

[@kirole7381]

You pretty summed it up !

[@Christiannotdior]

100%, make sure ppl know you!

[@-Jakob-]

same years of experience, to me that's too simplified, it also matters what impression you make on them when you meet them.

[@altron1009]

Sorry to hear that, last year few of my friends got laid off from big Tech companies, and they told me they got it wrong, they were too loyal to these companies and sucked in by telling them they are a big family, they got free lunch each day, free gym, no work-life balance etc. then boom! all of a sudden their service is no longer needed. That's the sad reality of working for Tech companies. Never be too loyal to any company, only to yourself, you are replaceable at work but not at home. All the best in your new journey.

[@anthonyju6392]

Yup. The only person who is going to look at for you is yourself. It might seem like one big happy family during fair weather times but ALL that goes away when the rains or drought comes. Work hard but always balance that out with your health in mind. No job is worth working yourself to the bone for.

[@billpointer6451]

Just like the democrats.

[@billpointer6451]

Buggy whips makers can’t find a job either Wake up.

[@ericchan5055]

When you’re unemployed, getting $1,800 in unemployment a month, going on a solo trip to Europe might be mentally good for you but it’s the most financially irresponsible thing you can do right now. Choosing a cheaper solo trip like Southeast Asia would’ve been more smarter. We’re about to hit a depression (we’re already in a recession) and you’ll regret spending that kind of money after.

[@Cybersawz]

Maybe cancel the trip until you have a job lined up? Personal choice, obviously.

[@Unordinary-lg4yt]

That would be assuming she wants to remain where she is currently. We don’t know what new avenues might open or inspire a change in life. Being stuck in the same dreadful environment hardly does anyone’s mental any good.

[@internetpointsbank]

That's the most tech thing to do though

[@trailsandbeers]

experiences are more important than money, and when you are not working it is an ideal time to travel.

[@Sl1pstreams]

Depends. If we are truly entering a depression, a few thousand bucks in savings won’t make that big a difference. Emergency savings make sense in a normal job market where finding a new job takes three to six months. In the current shit-show, it makes no difference at all. If you’re out of work for a year or more, a few grand won’t help in the grand scheme of things.

[@silvermica]

TL:DR - Electrical Engineer in Silicon Valley here (BSEE Cal Poly SLO, MSEE SCU) with nearly 28 years of industry experience now. In 2015 I became a full time consultant and have never looked back (Straight RF, LLC). Oddly, not having a regular job has been more stable for me than having a corporate job. Just say no to corporate life.

[@lawjoshay]

I got laid off from an ed tech company that went bankrupt this year I’m in cybersecurity and looking for work is challenging. I’ve had a few interviews but I’ve sent out almost 1700 job applications since February of this year. Things will get better just let go and let God!

[@AlexandreAlezzia]

Things will get better just let go and let God!

[@mujkocka]

Those with big names on their resume will get the jobs. A kid I know was interned at CERN, he got a job fairly quickly. Use your network. Cold interviewing is most difficult. Have you considered working for the government? They always hire no? And only citizens are your competitors

[@airborneranger-ret]

WADR, have you considered the govt job market? Or enlisting in the military's cybercorps?

[@joeme]

Tech created AI and now tech is out of a job. Go figure.

[@P8860]

2024: Developer : Ai will be just a tool to make us productive and it doesn't do x,y and z so it has a long way to go 2025: Developers: My team just got cut because my company is using AI

[@lifeofvilla]

It's more related to offshoring jobs in Poland, India, and Latin America.

[@P8860]

@@user-yv4fp4do8m Graphic design schools are closing because of AI. Look at Platt College San Diego for example.

[@stevennpitt]

Bwah haa haa haa - we so 'smarty' bunch of apes arent we?

[@turkyturky6274]

Ai is too stupid to do any complex job. Too stupid to analyze a full book. Maybe a page.

[@SladeBling]

I'm not going to lie I was in tech until i quit on my 42nd birthday. I had worked with hundreds of people around the world and honestly of the ones I kept up with none of them had much success. A lot of them got extremely out of shape, many sick, and some passed away. I did know one guy who had a very smart son who got hired by Microsoft as a program manager. He got paid an enormous salary and even had a few patents but this kid was SUPER SHARP. Anyway he came back home to visit his dad, paid his dad's house off and then told me he didn't like his career and was going to retire by age 35. I told him that's exactly the time to get out. Thank god for the movie Office Space it literally saved my life.

[@bruce21st]

In the 1960's, my grandmother bought a home in Los Angeles and paid it off in 11 years working a single first shift 7 hour non-management job at McDonald's. That house is worth $1.1 million today. I treat the fact that you can't do that with a single job at McDonald's today (and even higher-skilled jobs) as a sign that the US and its dollar has been weakened to the point that it no longer represents an economy of workers. It is an economy of investors. How wealth is generated has changed, but the education system does not teach nor reflect that. No matter what anyone tells you, there is nothing wrong with you, your skills, or the the industry(ies) from where you worked. I have only seen this video you made, but I can tell you're a wonderful human being, so I wanted to send some encouragement. Don't let anything or anyone invalidate you and how hard you worked. I think that the only thing you need to do is spend more time investing into yourself and less time investing into others in an economy that is increasingly unable or unwilling to appreciate workers like you.

[@wowswc]

All that money your mom used to make went right into the pockets of management and shareholders. Productivity gains =/= wage gains. We’ve become so used to devaluing our labor (working as intended by C-suite sociopaths), that we accept that our time is not as valuable as someone else just because we’re lower level.

[@finfet9828]

That house shouldn't be. 1millon your mom got that because of govt creating distortion in market zoning and nimby laws. Without it the house would be 200k and you could afford it in McDonald's salary

[@abelincoln3261]

You'll have work related PTSD for the rest of your life. Im retired, my first. Layoff came at about 33 years old my next layoff at about 40 in between I had several contract and short term and week to week assignments. Trust me things will get better but they will never be the same again. You will never feel fully secure in your job or life again. It sucks but accept it. It is what it is!

[@abul9052]

Seems that way. I feel I might have second hand ptsd from my daughter's lay-off. Even though it didn't happen to me I feel rattled by it. I'm trying to develop a second income stream

[@robnelson6545]

I’ve been laid off five times and was in a bankrupt company once where we stopped getting paid but later were compensated during the runoff and moved jobs with a bunch of others. The worst part about it is being told you need to leave immediately and finding out your work friends either won’t talk to you or they are not much help with your job search or will talk to you but don’t seem to care about you. I’ve been a high performer and got let go. Always last few weeks they go easy on you and let you catch up with training or learning some tool you needed to learn better but didn’t have a chance. Yeah, it changes you but also you realize you can bounce back.

[@abelincoln3261]

@@robnelson6545 Well surely not to out do you or down play your experience.. Trust me I relate to it all... all to well wish I didn't. I personally also didn't get paid, they went chapter 11 then 7 ... skipping out on our last three pay checks our expenses and those of us that had stock .. I did as part of my benefits package lost that too. So they got me for 1.3 million U.S. Many don't realize this can happen to anyone anytime... anywhere and there is nothing you can do about it.. Our laws allow it.. so yeah I get it... We do bounce back but it still stings forever !

[@bondgabebond4907]

I've been fired, I've worked short term jobs, always looking for that big break and finally got it. The USPS, the hardest job I've ever had. But it was worth it. I try to talk young kids to look at joining one of our military services. Thousands of jobs are offered. Many can be used in the civilian world. Go 20, get your pension, get another job and another pension. Save and invest your money properly. In the end, you will be better off than 90% of the people who chose unwisely in their career path.

[@internetpointsbank]

Guy that had a hundred abusive jobs: You poor thing, imagine making over the average income and crying when a project ends.

[@TheMashup_]

Hey Tiff, I'm so sorry to hear this. I'm one of the people who watched your UX research videos a lot, and they truly helped me transition from industrial design to UX. I've been working as a UX researcher for more than a year now, thanks to your videos. The market in South Africa is not that bad. It's just that there are not many stand-alone UX Research roles; companies tend to use Designers to do standard research. But I have been unemployed before (during the pandemic) and I am thriving today, don't know if you believe in GOD but He sure will make a way for you 🙏🏽

[@Tifffster]

Awww thanks for your comment. So glad to hear you successfully made your way into UXR! Appreciate your empathy + encouragements, it means a lot❤️

[@dianewalker9154]

I was laid off in March 2024. The job market and economy are BRUTAL.

[@IzzyChopChop]

Same here, although I've been officially looking for a job since late January. The job market is just so competitive in tech and in tech-adjacent sectors: I've been lucky to get call backs for interviews, and even got into final stage interviews, but nothing panned out. and to add ghost jobs on top of that.....

[@douglasstrother6584]

I started job-hunting the day I got laid off, several years ago. You can shitcan this Old Greybeard, but you're not going to break him. I landed a good gig and don't rest on my laurels, ever. Always learning new stuff!

[@chesterwilberforce9832]

i did 20 years in IT. 6 layoffs, months of unemployment. I've worked for companies that don't even exist anymore. I've had three jobs in one year. It is not a stable predictable way to make a living. Most work went to temp contracts with no benefits. It's great if you are single with no kids or health problems, of if your spouse has a steady job with health benefits. It's probably taken 10 years off my life from the stress of not knowing if any given day would be my last. A horrible way to make a living. Become a plumber or an electrician. Get an HVAC certificate. Not very glamorous, but glamorous doesn't pay the rent.

[@CharlesAnthony-m9o]

oh i am so sorry 😢 to hear that well I have a referral but it's a remote position and the working hours are flexible with a pay which ranges from about $30-$45/hr.

[@1hjehje]

I am an old retired guy, but I can relate to what you are going through. I graduated as an Industrial Engineer in the early 80s and I spent several years as a Project Manager in the petrochemical construction industry. After that I worked for about 30 years as a PM in the IT industry. I was fortunate enough to be employed almost continuously during my career, but there were times when I had some employment struggles, especially in the early days. I went through a a lot of emotional ups and downs trying to get my career established, but I just kept going and everything turned out OK, but it was trying at times. Initially, I was looking for a position in the automotive industry, but I was unable to find anything, so I decided to pursue any reasonable job that I felt that I could do, which led me to becoming a PM. I joking told others that my key to success was to pursue a career that nobody else wanted and to fool them into thinking that I was good at it for at least 40 years :-). Heads up, be patient, and just keep going.

[@A.T.0s]

I just got laid off 2 weeks ago after working 8 years - 4 years remote since 2020. I got a severance package and cashed out my maannny hours of PTO plus unemployment benefits. I felt down - questioning what the hell now? I decided to take a break and do a lot of decluttering, selling online etc. it’s a bummer to lose that routine/structure but things will get better in time. Best regards to you 😊

[@LilyGazou]

You have to create your own routine- for sanity.

[@A.T.0s]

@@LilyGazou I still carry the structure from work with some adjustments.

[@Elizabeth-mf3dn]

Sounds like you deserve to take some of that PTO money and gift yourself a trip or something nice

[@fallen546]

I think i've always felt some imposter syndrome as a software engineer. It's led me to save aggressively and diversify. I bought a house a few year ago, fixed it up, and put it on airbnb. Thankfully it now covers the mortgage, my apartment's rent, and all of my living expenses. I'm able to save 100% of my engineering salary. The crazy thing is I still feel uneasy about losing my job! I guess I just have zero trust or loyalty for my corporate overlords and my subconscious is completely aware of the fragile bargain. lol

[@Elizabeth-mf3dn]

That’s awesome

[@QuangWynn2711]

Save money don’t travel yet . Speaking from my experience

[@douglasstrother6584]

Going on vacation while unemployed: I can't think of a worse decision.

[@gabrielserrano5054]

She should be looking for jobs asap. Not traveling maybe she can get a job in Europe or some kind of recommendation from people there to get a job.

[@Unordinary-lg4yt]

Honestly sounds like a way to tell someone not to give themselves a break especially when others haven’t. Doesn’t mean the cost of vacation or taking a break needs to be absurd.

[@paul_domici]

Just got let go, Doesn't know what the future holds or when the next paycheck is coming! I know, Let's take an expensive trip to Europe??? This generation is reaalllllly different!

[@imrana.8370]

For real. Unless she is from a rich family and doesn't even need a job, then it would be crazy to go on a trip to Europe at this time.

[@mandavarney2005]

Hi! I'm a UX Researcher (6 yrs exp) that got laid off last October and feel this for sure! First was just kind of processing the shock of it all, then getting to take an actual rest. Enjoy that time and try not to worry through it. I'm past my UI benefits now and bills are going unpaid so really hoping something comes up soon. A few recruiters are starting to reach out again so there seem to be signs of life! It is disheartening seeing what's happening to our field while money gets diverted to new shiny (but unresearched) things that users don't really want or need. It's a long expensive lesson companies will have to learn the hard way I guess. I have faith that things will open back up once the revenue isn't what they want...because they are forgetting about the users. Who knows how long that will be but hang in there in the meantime! Wishing you the best!

[@Tifffster]

Hi @mandavarney2005! You are the absolute sweetest. Thanks so much for sharing your feelings too - that really made me feel heard and understood🥲❤️It’s so rough right now but I know there’s light at the end of the tunnel, and we’re all here holding hands together🤍 Nice to e-meet my fellow researcher!!

[@EnufAlrdy909]

I hope you find something and I wouldn't be too picky about what I accept! This downturn is going to get much worse and many more are going to be unemployed by the end of 2024.

[@elterrifico9522]

Must be the hair

[@SpclOps20]

More likely she starts her resume with “My pronouns are . . .”! Then she wonders why nobody hires her. It’s the patriarchy, right? 🤣

[@josephcler3299]

She's unemployed but she's gonna take a vacation to Europe. That makes a lot of sense

[@dddy1166]

Taking a few months off was the most common advice I received from mentors and peers after being laid off last year. I spent two months traveling to different places and reconnecting with my family. I’m grateful the layoff gave me the opportunity to focus on things outside of my uxr career and rebuild the mental resilience I needed to land my next job six months later. Trust yourself-you’ve got this!

[@LotsaThingsNstuff]

Remember you went to Europe when you still cant find a job after spending your severance.

[@douglasstrother6584]

Going on vacation while unemployed: I can't think of a worse decision.

[@LilyGazou]

Might find work there though.

[@Hilaire_Balrog]

@@douglasstrother6584. I gotta agree

[@ericchan5055]

Yup, typical immature behavior. Acting on your emotions claiming it’s for your mental health. Why choose one of the most expensive places to travel right now? Unless she has someone she can stay with

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

@@ericchan5055you can stay in hostiles. You can do it on the cheap

[@AR-gn2yk]

Hi Tiffany, the job market is definitely bad right now even for people who aren't in tech. Low paying jobs with lots of competition. I believe we have been in a recession and headed into a depression. Alot of workplaces are also outsourcing ALL types of work or paying cheap money to foreigners here in the USA

[@LilyGazou]

Truth

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

But the wall

[@engineking777]

Yep, Foreigners get to work from home while Americans we have to work in office

[@IzzyChopChop]

yep, C-suite executives and corporate elites are stabbing us US-based workers in the back.

[@za4117]

I got laid off in June. The last thing on my mind was spending thousands of dollars on a "retreat" trip to an exotic place to forget about my problems. I made it a full-time job and more to get a job by the end of the summer, and thank god I got one (tech/marketing sales) with a 10% pay bump and fully remote. Had I kicked back on my 6 weeks severance and my Q4 commission check, I wouldn't have had the tenacity to land something in a 90 day window. I hope it works out as well for this lady but after applying for 800+ jobs in that 90 day window, I know that being complacent would have put me in a BAD place.

[@Sl1pstreams]

The thing is, in another six to twelve months, it’s likely you’ll be back in the same situation again but with less severance. I have friends who have been laid off three or more times in the last four years. Eventually even all that “tenacity” won’t save you.

[@za4117]

@@Sl1pstreams Oh I am well aware that I can find myself in the same position at any point within the next 24 months again. I'm going to keep interviewing in the background and do some gig work in the background for extra savings

[@Sl1pstreams]

@@za4117 The thing is, to live off of emergency savings in the new Depression economy, you will need three to five years of savings. Few people can come up with that, especially in an environment with high inflation and falling wages.

[@artyomdubrovsky]

Lots of layoffs are happening. People are being lied to. God help this country.

[@TommyTomTompkins]

Believe it or not that's the issue God judgment is coming over the United States...

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

Indians are coming for all your jobs.

[@redrustyhill2]

Lots of people with no real world skills with inflated sense of self worth

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

@@redrustyhill2 it’s all bullshit jobs because there’s no real jobs available. These bullshit jobs that add very little value are created by people to employ other people so unemployment isn’t bad. The real problem is overpopulation.

[@marisol033]

@@redrustyhill2 Please stop...work should not be this way...we all have bills to pay and this huge companies pay millions to ceos...it makes no sense...they do not need that much money to live a comfortable life...the cost of things...everything is out of control...even our unnecessary spending...unnecessary rudeness. Please try lifting people up with positive words. No one is safe

[@alargebagofmoney]

All valid. AND, keep in mind gratitude right now. Like seriously. You are so lucky to clearly have enough savings or external support that you get to take your time looking for another role. Some people have to drop down to anything at all that will pay bills when they don’t have income. Anything to make ends meet which makes a job search even harder. Count your blessings.

[@kateismostlygoodwmoney]

Ugh girl I'm a UXR in Toronto and the last couple years have been ROUGH. I only broke into the industry in late 2022 and it has been so scary going through rounds at my companies, I'm scared for my job all the time, it's exhausting. Sending hugs to you - rest and take your time. Who knows what's going to happen but I feel like I am starting to see the job market warm up a bit, I've gotten more pings from recruiters the last few months than I did in all of 2023.

[@Tifffster]

Hiiii girl! Thanks for your message💕 wow you broke into UXR in 2022?! That must have been tough but you did the hard part! Yes hopeful the market warms up for everyone!💪💪💪

[@ctg18158]

They were really friendly, supportive and kind. They needed to be productive and adding value to the company.

[@getaheadwithpetekelly]

She's learning, despite what her parents, teachers, and friends have told her, how replaceable she truly is.

[@felixluk3167]

I am just going to mention a few things for good measures: 1. For people doing design and front-end stuff, you absolutely need to build a personal website, and put your best stuff on it. That would be your showcase. 2. Employers are more inclined to hire entry level because they pay less. 3. Learn new skills. A lot of employers like this. It shows you take initiative. 4. See if you can get somebody to review your resume for you, preferably somebody in HR or recruitment agency. Good luck to you.

[@AlphaMale_1]

She is not technical -- she only "worked" for a social media company while sipping latte, chatting with other gfs.

[@travisbickle1455]

No wonder she got laid off. She's the personification of "dead wood".

[@SurpriseMeJT]

Yup, UX researcher does not require real hard technical skills. Of course she will be let go.

[@Savage_Thinker]

@@SurpriseMeJT never even heard of this tittle and she is married going on a solo trip to EU. Oh right ok princess.

[@Sl1pstreams]

I’m surprised… I had to scroll almost two full pages before hitting the incel comment thread from virgins who know nothing about tech nor manhood. 😂

[@cg5648]

@@Sl1pstreams if you are married and you let your wife go on vacation without you, you are a loser.

[@northstar_7]

I’m sorry to hear about your job, I think taking a moment to decompress and enjoy a little bit of this time we have when we don’t work might be rejuvenating so that you can tackle the next chapter of your life. Wish all the best. I also work in Tech and feel the need to be constantly reminded that nothing is guaranteed in this industry anymore so preparing for change seems inevitable

[@Tifffster]

Thank you so much!

[@Heartbeat2471]

I also got laid off from a design job I loved. This happened last week. And since... I've been experiencing a rollercoaster of emotions. I feel the same way as you...the job market right now is horrendous, trying to network with designers who simply ignore requests is humiliating...I've also been through all these questions of whether or not I chose the right career path. Its been so difficult navigating the job market versus how it was back in 2022. I'm glad you are taking a break from it...there is so much more to life than our jobs and these applications. I am also learning to live. Happy to connect with you on a call! Have a wonderful trip!! :)

[@zalfak9243]

Why are you me😭 i got laid off from a company that I extremely comfortable with. I thought I could finally rely on a company but it only lasted me for 2 months. I got a designer friend who worked there and was super nice to me and she offered me some side jobs that i could join anytime, just tap on her. but when I reached her out she wasn’t wven bother replying😂 i tried to contact her again on the second day, but it still nothing. She even said that “no longer co worker, but still friends right”. Where are you now tho

[@diegolaluz9261]

Put your trust in Yahweh Almighty's father, pray to him, and he will make all your dreams come true in Yahshua MessiYah Name HallyluYah

[@xiangbinni9714]

I'm a ng graduate on 2023 Dec, and I have been searching for jobs until now! and not getting any! I will say maybe take the time to rest and learning new skills. The market its just really bad, but at least you have some experiences compare to the New grad student. so never give up and be positive things will come

[@Tifffster]

I know… I feel especially for you guys. I’m so sorry the job market has been so rough on you guys… Sending hugs your way!

[@redshift415]

All the best! Recent FAANG here still hunting after 9 months.

[@mariyork]

Hi! I am a retired firefighter/EMT, never felt fear of losing job. Now I am working as a direct sales market brand partner, the only one who will fire me is me, and I love it!

[@tomy.1846]

So sorry to hear, I bet you are down right now, but you will land on your feet. Hopefully you find and even better job! Best of luck!

[@Tifffster]

Thank you @tomy.1846!!!!

[@mossygreenlog]

I just resigned from a company I worked at for almost 10 years after my boss threw me under the bus. No regrets. I've worked in I.T. for 27 years. Some places are terrible, a few are okay, but sometimes you have to make a change. I'm sorry that this happened without it being your choice. You seem like a nice, neat, articulate person. Take your vacation and use the opportunity to rest, recharge, and come back strong. Good luck!

[@DriftinN2Freedom]

Hi Tiff it will all work out, just have faith...I hope that your Europe trip brings you plenty of joy

[@0xSolfury]

UX is hard right now compared to back then when it was so in-demand. Im personally pivoting to dev and AI. Wishing you the best.

[@GSuii]

Stay strong Tiff! There is more to life than a corporate job. Life is a lot bigger than that.

[@SoloSecondHalf]

Sorry you are going through this. I work in tech as well and everyday I wonder if I'll be losing my job through no fault of my own. First layoff was on my 40th birthday. No doubt it sucks. You have to look at work as if you are a free agent. There is zero sense of security or loyalty anymore. Hang in there! You'll find something and don't let the situation F with your confidence.

[@Fortnitecastaldo]

I'm glad you made this video, it reminds me of my transformation from a nobody to good home, $47k monthly and a good daughter full of love..

[@AlejandroSantiago-g3l]

Hello 👋 How're you earning such weekly? sometimes I feel down on myself because of low finances,but I still believe in God

[@Fortnitecastaldo]

Thanks to Mrs. Elizabeth Regina Nelsen's time in my life, which had a profound impact on me.

[@EmilyPatricia-v6u]

Sounds familiar. I have heard her name on several occasions and read about her success stories in wall street journal!

[@PaulJohnson-c5y]

Who's Elizabeth Regina Nelsen!?looking forward to this opportunity Can I also sign up from Ontario Canada?

[@AnnaWorley-h7h]

She is really a good investment advisor. I was privilege to attend some of her seminars. That's how I started my own crypto investment.

[@winterheat]

2:52 you know why they put down "100+ Applicants"? It is because they used to put down "638 Applicants" and that can make people stop applying. So you see, they have a fishing rod, and they want you to spend 15 or 20 minutes applying, even though you may not be a person that they even care. They lose nothing. You waste 15, 20 minutes and it is like, "IT is YOUR problem"

[@rl8571]

UX positions are luxury hires. This is this generation’s technical writer which went extinct in the 2010s because manufacturing moved overseas and technical writers abroad were cheaper. I would recommend moving to another position within a tech company if you find another opportunity. Most technical writers i know went into project management which is a bit more stable while some joined the sales team. The world is always changing and adaptability is the only skill that keeps us desirable to businesses and corporations. Good luck.

[@Sl1pstreams]

A great illustration of what Doctorow calls “enshittification.” UX ensures quality, and our monopolies no longer even pretend to care about delivering a quality experience. They squeeze out turds that we are forced to buy because they’re the only choice in town, as corrupt governments of both parties allowed them to buy up the competition. That’s also why inflation is so bad. There’s no competition so the cartels that control most industries hiked prices in unison.

[@lala-dee]

Project management jobs are very specific and requires experience directly related to the team and function, especially now, but at least there are more open doors breaking into sales or customer support

[@myronschabe]

Totally agree with this comment...UX is too easy to rely on as a stable career I would train in something else...there may be a limited need for the role for the best of the best but not accounting for so many that went into the field...also something the AI can probably take over pretty easily.

[@jivepatrol6833]

Keep positive! I'm an engineer with 42 years of experience and have been though a few bad downturns. It always turns around. You're a smart, energetic young lady and will find another job soon. Kind regards.

[@glorgau]

UX researcher. Every bit as useful as HR. Applying for a job with 100+ applicants will be a job you DO NOT want to have.

[@ksilisab8935]

Useful as hr? Offensive

[@Sl1pstreams]

Tell me you don’t understand technology without telling me you don’t understand technology.

[@BadjonoKinan]

Okay Chud

[@TheSnerggly]

I've been out of work for 12 months now. I've decided to get out of the Tech Job Market, I can partially retire, but I still need a job. I am sorry this is happening to you, you are young and seem very talented, I am sure you will bounce back. We need UX research!!!

[@vincentnnyc]

We are going thru a cycle right now similar to the internet dot bomb in 2000, financial crisis in 2009 and now in 2024….i have been laid off several times due to various reason medical, company going out of business, company merger, etc. i don’t know what to tell you. But hang in there…one door closes and another door opens

[@LilyGazou]

Read the articles on Zerohedge. For some other aspects.

[@user-zo2ge3oe8d]

This is no where as bad as 2000 and 2008

[@vincentnnyc]

@@user-zo2ge3oe8d say u…but others have different opinions…agree to disagree

[@gjforeman]

Can someone explain WTF is a UX job / industry? I'm 73, retired 10 years after 34 years as a field service engineer in the biomedical industry. Yeah, flying from Los Angeles to Saskatoon in the dead of winter on short notice got old after a while, but there were good times, I enjoyed the challenges and the people, and I knew that no robot was going to take over my job. Being able to work with your hands and your head is a great source of pride and economic stability.

[@grouchynorwegian8690]

I’ve listened to several of these videos and read several articles about employers not hiring. So much about some of these people not wanting to work.

[@noveelau9453]

Hi Tiffany, i'm sorry to hear that and i hope you are doing okay. Recently, the tech job market has been really bad; almost every employer significantly decreases their budget, and entry-level tech jobs require at least 4/5+ job experience, which is insane. Job security isn't a thing for tech guys now and most of the openings are like 6 months / 1 year contract role, not even a full-time role :(

[@robertnunn3015]

Hey I lost my great job at 61 now that will Rock your world ! This will happen more and more in the Biden economy! She’s so Stressed at this young age !! Going to be a long life !

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

Trumps catch phrase is literally “ you’re fired” Christ u right wingers are brainwashed

[@mikefigures5075]

Moronic comment.

[@sandragiven4752]

😂😂😂 it will get worse w Trump

[@nikkei325i]

I graduated college in 2008 and had a tough time finding a job. The whole traveling while unemployed reminded me of these dark years because that is exactly what I did. I think traveling can help with your mental health but find a good balance between "getting away" and "fulfilling responsibilities" because time spent not focusing on sharpening your skills (hard, soft and interview) can hurt you when the market turns around. You might be out of work longer than you would like to be.

[@mannysmemories6126]

Wish you the best in finding a job. It’s tough now in days. I was laid off after 25 years in the company in October 2024. I was an IT Business Support. Good thing I was smart with my money and I am still planning my Peru vacation. I need to enjoy time off and then focus on a new job search.

[@bjackk1]

Thanks for sharing. Something will come through; keep the faith and hang in there!

[@Tifffster]

Thanks for the encouragement!!🙏

[@frestylz]

Totally understand how you are feeling, as I was layoff 19 months ago and still no ends to this job market situation. I was leading Marketing for the Asia Pacific for an American brand but things are just shitty right now. Don't give up, i've been told, but I'm pivoting.

[@Charlie-hb9ic]

Here's the deal. You can believe what you want. I have read several books, watched several documentaries, and watched several interviews about job cuts in 2030. All of the information states that white collar jobs will be reduced by 50% by 2030. This includes doctors, lawyers, engineers, programmers, etc. Technology disruption and new business models will reduce white-collar jobs.

[@LilyGazou]

Also population reduction. Drastic.

[@EnufAlrdy909]

^ This is true. Now is not the time to be spending or buying anything you don't absolutely need!

[@Sl1pstreams]

Assuming such alarmism was true (it’s not), that would also result in the total collapse of the economy. It’s workers who spend (and borrow for big ticket items like houses and cars) that keep the economy going. A 50% reduction would mean a 50% (or greater) decline in revenue across the board. Just about every company in business would go bankrupt in such a situation and every bank would fail due to mass defaults.

[@sneakysnake2866]

I was gonna say.... I think AI is going to destroy a lot of tech jobs. The irony of it all is that tech workers will work on developing/refining AI and then will replaced by the technology they developed :( This is why we need worker's rights. People need to unionize. It's not okay for companies to fire people so easily.

[@CouchMan88]

Yep. You are not alone. I’ve been off two months. Thought I had a new job but it didn’t go through. My job was a niche skill and I don’t even care to do it anymore. I’d rather just take a $20 an hour job with no commute even though I was making almost double that prior. 4 years ago could have got a job in my field nearly anywhere I wanted. The job market is not what it was pre and just post pandemic.

[@Tifffster]

🥲Sorry to hear about that. And thanks so much for sharing your experience! I agree, the discrepancy in comp you see vs. before makes it especially challenging. Hang in there, my friend!

[@2conRazor]

Coming from a senior UX researcher I highly recommend you look into another field. UX researcher specifically is cooked there are so many tools nowadays that can do the work for a fraction of the price

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

To be fair UX design is complete BS, as if making a button green or blue makes that much of a difference. A good developer can figure out ways to make people want to press a button. The fact UX design exists just shows that there are too many people on this planet and not enough real jobs.

[@genx7006]

Brutal dude, brutal.

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

@@genx7006 it’s true though. UX design is a stupid and worthless job. Just pay the dev $20k more to figure out the best UI.

[@mecanuktutorials6476]

@@Spacemonkeymojoit’s certainly not useless. UX Research is obviously an important consideration for measuring engagement with a product or service. It has real business implications. Things like VR and HCI also fall into that umbrella. But you’re right that it’s not a REAL job. It’s very much an R&D area which is usually just a cost center for companies. We’d have to see what the UX person actually does all day to justify their salary.

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

@@mecanuktutorials6476 I don't disagree that UX is important, it is, it's just that having dedicated people in those roles is pointless and a waste of money. Even the video is titled "my glorified tech job". A good dev or engineer will be able to consider UX when they're creating a product.

[@HieronymusChockvivantvanit]

I would disagree. UX is extremely important. The iPhone just sucks. So many apps suck. So many web pages suck. Windows sucks. I am a software developer and I hate software. Or rather I hate the developers of the software. I’ve thrown my iPhone so many times. The problem is the developers. Only really intelligent and creative people should work in UX. Jonny Ive needs to be fired. If you call yourself a UX developer you are already unqualified for the job. You probably like buttons and menus labeled with acronyms. You know what UX developers don’t understand? You can communicate nouns with icons but you can’t communicate verbs with icons. That is UX development 101. If you want your design to be idiot proof, you need to test it with idiots. The designers, in love with their work, should not test it.

[@kekef3620]

Its a tough job market. If you were my friend, I would strongly advise against the vacation to Europe. It may be too late now but this job market requires daily job app submissions. But i do understand the need for mental and spiritual rejuvenation. I wish you the best.

[@nevadaalpacas9362]

time to become a farmer

[@yyyzzz-hq4cb]

Coal miners.

[@ricardoblikman2676]

You have never heard of Klaus Schwab and his gang of the economic forum my man! They will exterminate farmers they already went on a rampage in Western Europe so you better hope Trump wins the election.

[@ricardoblikman2676]

@@yyyzzz-hq4cb Klaus Schwab forbids the mining of coal! You will own nothing and eat zi bugs!

[@kietdaoakaicy]

plumbers and electricians are hiring, also line cooks and waitress

[@ricardoblikman2676]

mining and farming is not allowed bt Klaus Schwab!

[@toml2951]

Wen through all the motions you described. The moment I took a pause with the searches and took time to rest, and explore creative outlets is when opportunities presented themselves. I also spent more time expanding my network, going to tech talks, speaking on panels and round table discussions, which helped raise my profile. Cut a long story short… I was offered a Director role on even more money than I was on before! 🙌

[@damianpodgorski6977]

Don't give up! I am also at risk of losing my job due to lay offs in company where I work so I can appreciate your situation. Just keep learning, you can still jump into some similar but different role. Try to avoid using one CV for all applications, try some different versions of your CV

[@hjtechguy]

Sorry but UI/UX bubble burst. I think management realized that it's not making a dent on revenue. It's going to be a long tough journey for UI/UX people, I wish you luck.

[@imveryhungry112]

Its easier to find cheaper people to do UI. And there are many new low code or even codeless UI libraries coming out now that look almost as good as doing everything in pure javascript.

[@Unordinary-lg4yt]

Yep. The whole term is also a recent boom in the last decade and is now collapsing. I remember the person responsible for front end web design was just as responsible for the interface and usability.

[@hjtechguy]

@@Unordinary-lg4yt I didn't mean to say so publicly, but honestly Tech has way too much bloat and UI/UX is unfortunately one of those BS roles that just isn't relevant in the industry. It's the reason why people are struggling to find jobs in that department now that money has dried up. I knew something was off when I read how these researchers see "Empathy" and "Creativity" a as core skills for the job. I mean yea sure if that's the case let's hire Fine Arts students to run the software eng and product departments too. I commiserate with laid off workers but honestly I hope this lady finds new skills to retool so she can find more business-critical roles in the industry.

[@JamesParus]

I've been in it for 25years and most of the time I havent even understood the whole ux thing. It's very rare to see a real person who has vision and good taste to design something. Many times they even dress so poorly and have bad hairstyles that it makes me wonder how can they design anything if they have such a poor taste. In this video thou I cannot complain about bad taste in clothes or style. But what I have noticed that when you see a real ux person you know it. Her/his style is very good and though out. And you need to be at 1% top taste to design something.

[@imveryhungry112]

@JamesParus often times in engineering, you'll find that the very brilliant people don't "look good". And the really good looking people that wear the cute dresses to work really have zero actual skill. Think about it, if your getting heart surgery to save your life are you focused on whether the surgeon has great hair or a cute dress on? A lot of the people posting these layoff videos look great with cute hair and clothes I think because companies are going back to the old school engineering teams so they can actually start building real stuff again.

[@joealmeida]

I'm very sorry to hear about your layoff. I've been there with a family of 4. You seem to be a wonderful, smart, and determined young lady. I with the very best for you.

[@prst99]

Most definitely feels better to be laid off en mass instead of just a few. Makes your ego less hurt because it’s not from your performance.

[@travelingdude1621]

A nice video. I got a Master’s degree in IT. I’ve been unemployed for nine months. The job market is tough out there. I’d like to get a remote job. I agree it feels like it’s an employer’s market too. Hopefully, me and you will find a job soon. You’re a very intelligent, classy, beautiful woman. I try to keep in mind we live in the US so we’ll all be ok no matter what economically happens in the country. I’m still on unemployment too. It just doesn’t last forever. We still have to get a new job eventually. Good luck to you too. 😃👍🏻

[@jehnart]

That is part of being an adult. Grow up and lean from it. Dont spend money in unnecesary things. All the best to you and ypur future.

[@cruzintheraw]

My good friend has 3 fry cook positions at Chicken Express... if you can get to Dallas this weekend... he could use someone like you...

[@felipecourtois7883]

The question is if any of those jobs are even coming back and if so how many years in between

[@GameFuMaster]

Being laid off is a huge awakening for me. Never have loyalty. If your company ever starts laying off people (and you were spared this time), immediately start looking for a new job. Stop spending and save. Savings will be the difference between you having to take a poorly paid job just to get by, and being able to lounge around waiting for the right opportunity (or enjoy a hobby in the mean time). Stop wasting time. In this age where everyone seems to have less friends so are going out less and such, it's probably best to start a side hustle or just do an extra part time job to either save for a house or just build up savings to prevent anxiety if you ever get laid off. This isn't for everyone, but it's definitely something to think about if you feel like you're wasting time.

[@jaychoi2535]

Thank you for sharing your experience..! This is such an honest sharing and I am so proud of you

[@Tifffster]

Thanks for your supportive words! 🥲💕

[@manuelaseffer3582]

That's not an easy situation, sorry to hear this. Though not in the tech industry but last year I was laid off 2 times in just 7 months. And I went through all those tiring interviews and mental ups and downs but finally have found the right opportunity. :) I tried to stay strong and see what I could learn or even benefit from that situation. And for the many applicant part: I read a conversation on LinkedIn from recruiters stating that this data can be misleading since the majority of applicant just do not fit to the role at all... So there's always hope. 🙏😊

[@libertysprings2244]

You can try being a school teacher for awhile instead. There is a shortage so most places you don't need a teaching certificate.

[@music-jj2pl]

I've been a software developer for 28 years. I have always felt like I'm one mess up from getting fired even though I have never been close to getting fired. Imposter syndrome is strong in this field. I wish I would have done something else. Enjoy the severance for at least 2 weeks just forgot about things then get back to the grind - if this is what you want. Good luck

[@vicchioblack2214]

The military needs officers with tech degrees. Lol. Hear me out. Great benefits, good retirement, and get to travel all over the world. Been in for 10 years in the Cyber field (IT) and have terrific job security. 10 more years till retirement for me and I’ll have a guaranteed pension. I joined a little later and it’s been the best decision I’ve made.

[@magneric]

I left the military 4 years ago and no it's not great at all. Benefits are eroding and retirement changed from a pension to a 401k. Pay is garbage and in some places it's below the standard of living to the point where command sergeants are recommending you get food stamps.

[@vicchioblack2214]

@@magneric The pay isn’t the best , but the military paid for my Bachelors, Masters, and got me a house, so I can’t really relate to eroding benefits. In the IT field it’s still really lucrative considering they pay for certs and secret clearances which translate to government jobs on the outside.

[@4700_Dk]

As a boomer all I can say is keep looking, I understand that you do want the down time. But time isn’t on your side. It’s all about timing, people quit all the time at work and if you’re not there at the exact moment they need a replacement then you might have missed out. Spend two days a week looking, and don’t forget to spoil yourself once a week.

[@ricardoblikman2676]

Hehehe wait until you serve under rear admiral Rachel Levine !

[@Cybersawz]

The military is a great choice. I served 23 years with the US Navy both as an Enlisted and Commissioned Officer, and retired at age 48 with a full pension under the original plan. I had the time of my life traveling the world as a young man! BTW- There is NO PENSION system anymore in the military; they changed to a 401K plan.

[@alohatvn]

You are going to find something much better. Wishing you best of luck going forward 👍 ✨️ 😊 ❤

[@idjilju2835]

Has the tech industry this cut throat? Every time I hear about layoffs it’s always the tech industry

[@travisbickle1455]

Tech companies over hired during the Pandemic and they've been cutting off the fat when the party's over.

[@olalalala4302]

Feel like you need a hug...it's alright, everything will be ok, it is just one phase of your life. You will find a way out, better and stronger. HUGS

[@oodo2908]

If you can manage something solid online, even a lower salary will make a life in Asia good. The Japanese yen is collapsed, the conversion rate is awesome. Kuala Lumpur is nice, Bangkok, Ho Chi Minh. The upper end of Manila. As low as $2K a month and you can live good and save money.

[@curtis.albrecht.79]

Clark Freport Zone, 106km North of Manila is Way Nicer...

[@oodo2908]

@@curtis.albrecht.79 Yeah, it's pretty nice! And an international airport that skips Manila entirely. Not much party scene and handsome young men for ladies like her, though. Makati and BGC are great for women.

[@Ryhamz]

@@curtis.albrecht.79 that AC/Clark area is not nicer than high end manila IMO

[@GodSonBlessed]

Most tech jobs and tech support jobs from engineers and developers to help desk, are being heavily outsourced, mainly to India. It's like what happened to manufacturing in the 80's.

[@linda22_]

Why are people going on vacations when they’re getting laid off? I mean, I get it, everyone wants and deserves a vacation but, if you no longer have income coming in, shouldn’t you be a little selfless. Not hating, just curious as to peoples through process when going through this….

[@RatherBeCancelledThanHandled]

You’re underestimating how hard the market is.

[@douglasstrother6584]

Going on vacation wh.ile unemployed: I can't think of a worse decision.

[@imanigordon6803]

If you got massive savings sure but some folks are that their jobs for years and don’t save anything lol

[@matseddyjambon]

Her YT channel is monetized. That video alone got 40k views in three days. She'll be alright.

[@infini.tesimo]

These people have earned large incomes from their jobs therefore can go on vacation from leftover said income. Not hard to understand.

[@ADadSupreme]

Here's a video I saw that might help- "Pivoting into UX when tech job market SUCKS"

[@eplugplay8409]

I would try to find a job immediately. Right now we are in a recession and especially in tech if you are not employed for x amount of months, employers will look at you kind of funny. I work at a fortune 500 company and was on that side of the fence hiring tech workers and the ones that had weird gaps of no work we didn't look highly on them regardless of their experience.

[@gavinlew8273]

There's no recession. The S&P500 is flying high!

[@eplugplay8409]

@@gavinlew8273 I'm happy as 50% of my portfolio is in S&P but real world there definitely is a recession.

[@scottysteadman5063]

@@gavinlew8273lol 😂

[@abul9052]

If it makes you feel any better, there's so many people going through the roller coater emotions etc. I wish you all the best ❤

[@Tifffster]

❤️❤️❤️

[@rongee3781]

Don't worry kid, it's a stepping stone going to a better job. Good luck.

[@Tifffster]

🙏🙏🙏

[@handsomeman-pm9vy]

@@Tifffster As a single man, I have got a job for you girl.

[@tp5283]

Enjoy your severance and relax but keep applying. I got rejected 3 times from a company but got an offer from them just recently 😂 I think the recruiter screen isn’t that great so keep at it and hopefully a hiring manager sees your resume

[@mikedv7954]

New generation have no idea what hard work really means.

[@DarkCastleBoy]

It's not about hard work it's just job market is not what it used to be before.

[@mikedv7954]

@@DarkCastleBoy your spoiled years are over, wake up and face the reality. Life is not meant to be easy.

[@DarkCastleBoy]

I work as a Civil Engineer in a radioactive mine I haven't even seen the surface and sunlight for months sometimes I have to work for 24 hours too and deal with radioactivity, and constant pressure lol sometimes I even think why I even major in this bs. Job Market is crazy there are literally roles even as a fresher they need 5 to 10 years of experience. It's chaos.

[@MrCem1016]

End of Year (last quarter) is a terrible time to be job hunting as most companies will utilize any salary savings to boost EOY performance figures, so most will delay actually filling open positions until after the new year & into the first quarter. I’d recommend pooling with your Team to see if any would be interested in forming a business offering your skills to start-ups or small companies & put some of that “severance” money toward that.

[@haroldrodtsa]

After watching this video. I'm Lost you claim that you just got laid of, But yet your first thought is let me go on vacation. There's nothing wrong with enjoying some free time but is wasting that money really the right move. If tech jobs are done with why don't you invest in yourself you are still young. Take some classes change your career . Prepare for the Worst and Hope for the Best. Take it from me I'm former Marine and my son just went into bootcamp. Military might be a option. I see to many videos with young people having same thought I just lost my job but let me spend the money i do have. You still have time to make good decisions.

[@douglasstrother6584]

Going on vacation while unemployed: I can't think of a worse decision.

[@benchillwell7498]

Agreed that plane ticket to Europe will be 2/3 what unemployment pays her for the month

[@frankjamesbonarrigo7162]

You are assuming she is on her own. You don’t know where she sits financially. I say go travel, you are only young once and she might not get to go again. She might get hit by a bus. Go!

[@coarselyground]

You're doing the right thing. Tech was in a boom. Now it's in a bust. That's how bubbles fueled by cheap credit go when rates get raised and the money spigot gets turned off. Since tech is largely financed by venture capital, it's particularly susceptible to this phenomenon. When money is cheap, VC's have lots of eggs to spread out among lots of baskets. More critically, they're willing to wait to see which eggs will hatch. When money is tight, there are fewer eggs and baskets, and those eggs better start hatching fast. In short, the jobs are just not there now.

[@BLT-sr6zz]

More asians being laid off. Make sure you pay for your own student loans. We shouldn't have to pay your bills

[@Sl1pstreams]

Wow. Two pages to the incel and three pages before the racist comment. Must be getting pretty hard out there for bottom-feeding edgelords. Y’all are falling behind in your game.

[@994pt4]

GenZ needs their vacations!

[@TheMarmite09]

Hello girlie sorry to hear. Similar thing happened to me and like you I've been through various stages of emotions and questioning myself and what I am doing with my life. How are you explaining the laying off to prospective employers in interviews without judgment?

[@Cheez1979]

I get into arguments with my gen Z son. He thinks tech work and corporate is the way to go. He’s said when I get out of college I’m going to be rich lol …. I’m in the trades I’ve never been layed off I make what 33% of the population makes…

[@LilyGazou]

He hasn’t researched the news. You tried.

[@Tamar-sz8ox]

I hear you loud and clear

[@kekef3620]

Can't blame him. Last few years tech has been pushed down everyones throat. Especially gen z. They were told if they don't get a STEM degree, whatever they learn is useless. He would have been right 4 years ago. But that's how quickly things have changed. Show him the thousands of videos of tech workers who have been laid off and can't find a job 6, 7, 11 months later. Show him the videos of the young tradesmen bragging about their job availability, stability, pay and benefits.

[@HM-yr1vr]

Let him do what he wants! If that drives him, let him be a man and make his own decision. You can suggest things but don’t evangelize blue collar work that’s is a set of laws or leverage against unemployment.