'I Had An Abortion - How Can You Call It Immoral?’ Pro-lifer GRILLED | Ask The Mask | Channel 4

[@bluediamond1414]

God. When he started talking about the 'millions' of 'families' waiting to foster/ adopt children, my heart sank. I grew up in care. That, sadly, isn't the reality at all. I get the impression this young man has had a very sheltered life, which as I said in my other comment, makes it incredibly easy for him to sit there and judge others, doesn't it?! Edit: soo by his logic ... if you are raped you have a duty to love and protect the rapists child? I'm sorry. I know this is controversial, but personally... I don't think I could look into the eyes and face of someone who reminded me of the rape every day. And besides that, bringing a child into that mess would be chaos.

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

So I understand you grew up in Foster care, but Foster care is not the same as adoption of newborn babies. There are in fact millions of families waiting to adopt newborns.

[@bluediamond1414]

@@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge I was a newborn baby that wasn't adopted .... because this isn't the reality at all! It is HARD to adopt a child. Lots of legal stuff, paperwork then not to mention everyday costs etc. Also, a lot of bad people are drawn to the social care system, (or social scare system, as I like to call it 😉) for financial reasons, you can get grants for fostering children etc. And the more you have the more money you get. Foster parents abuse kids ALL. THE. TIME. It happens regularly in care homes as well. Where are the millions of loving families waiting for these kids??? Because I sure as hell, never saw them. Neither did the hundreds of other kids I met in care.... I kept in touch with a few. We all agreed that social services SCREWED our life up.

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

@S it sounds like you had a bad experience, and I'm not denying that experience, it just isn't the norm if we look statistically. Over 60% of newborns given up for adoption are adopted immediately and a further 60% of the remaining are adopted within a year. Children who were adopted at birth jave no measurable difference in quality of life to children raised by their biological parents, studies have been done and the chance of them being abused if they were adopted at birth is the same as people who are raised by their biological parents.

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

@S but either way, even if it were true that 99% of adoptive kids had an awful life, that's ko reason to kill an innocent child

[@bluediamond1414]

@@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge I think the point I find issue with is you saying they are killing children. When does life start, at conception? If so, do you see the womans body as purely a vessel as that point??

[@bluediamond1414]

Very easy for him to sit there and say. This issue will never be a personal decision for him. He's a man. He is entitled to an opinion, but where do WE draw the line when it comes to personal beliefs drastically restricting and harming others. I will always be pro choice. It should always be a CHOICE.

[@zebculture839]

That is a very weak argument. Child slavery in Uganda will never effect you but it’s still wrong. Heck wars overseas don’t affect you and yet you still more than likely dislike them.

[@bluediamond1414]

@@zebculture839 is it? War affects everyone actually. For instance, Ukraine - my I have polish family. But if your a man, your never going to be in a position where you have to make a decision on abortion personally. So to sit their and judge someone about something that you could never comprehend ... doesn't sit well with many people.

[@Rich-yj4ub]

You drew the line when you had Intercourse knowing full well that Intercourse is for creating life not to take a life. Naturally Medical or Rape issues may arise & that's acceptable. Hard core advocates would argue in a rape situation to either have & raise the baby the right way or give it up for adoption. Me personally I say it's their choice because they know they will be pregnant so they can take the day after pill or talk to doctor to monitor growth & abort at the earliest instead of say 8 months.

[@user-ue8vp6fy8y]

Murdering a child is wrong whether a man or woman says it.

[@RaqMor13]

@@bluediamond1414 I’m a woman that has personally gave birth to two children. I agree that abortion is murder. I wasn’t in the best place to have my second but I never thought to kill her. I was having sex and knew it would happen. Granted the person I had sex with is my husband and my kids dad.

[@user-xg1dp3gr1z]

If you don't want to get an abortion then don't get one. However your opinion cannot be forced on others and if they want an abortion they can get one and it's nothing got to do with anyone else.

[@wltdo6930]

Spot on

[@sgrill11124]

They see abortion as murder though. Think of it from their perfesctive. Imagine living in a world where everybody could murder who they wanted without implications.... is it moral to just sit by and let that happen? Thats why they speak up about it, because they are defending the defenceless.

[@TigerLily12345]

@@sgrill11124 So, even if the woman was raped or can't afford to care for the child, if pregnancy could kill the mother etc she should still keep the baby?

[@sgrill11124]

@@TigerLily12345so if a mother goes into financial ruin when she is 9 months pregnant is it ok to kill that baby? If a baby is conceived through rape is that baby not worthy of living? Why should a baby be murdered because of the crimes of the father? Imo mothers should receive support throughout their pregnancies and after. Financial help should always he available. If a pregnancy medically puts the mothers life at risk then that is a completely different story.

[@TigerLily12345]

@@sgrill11124 Does that mean if I had ended up pregnant after I was raped at 13 you would still have expected me to carry on the pregnancy and put myself through child birth? I also have genetic issues that could be passed onto the baby. So you would still have expected me to carry on a pregnancy?

[@katieporterswhiteboard1433]

Also was interesting as he doesn't believe in abstinence. But I'm a 45 year old virgin. I believe in abstinence so that I don't have to worry about getting pregnant out of wedlock.

[@DriveInFreak]

I honesty feel sorry for you.

[@AuntBee59]

@@DriveInFreak I don’t feel sorry for her. I praise her! Well done!

[@DriveInFreak]

@@AuntBee59

[@AuntBee59]

@@DriveInFreak you are not worth our time.

[@DriveInFreak]

@@AuntBee59 You're not worth the oxygen you breathe.

[@gazman2626]

He is free to his opinion. But the idea that his opinion isn't one is insane.

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

Abortion being murder isn't an opinion though. If that murder is moral or immoral is the opinion.

[@spencerreid2086]

@@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge its not murder because your not killing an alive thinking feeling person your basically ripping out a root before it has chance to grow into something more.

[@aspiknf]

@@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge Abortion is murder, that's a fact.

[@aspiknf]

@@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge Life starts at conception.

[@aspiknf]

@@spencerreid2086 If a zygote was found on Mars, scientists would call that life on Mars. If that zygote on Mars was killed, scientists would say that life was killed. The same applies to the zygote in the woman's womb, it is living. You have a different definition of what is alive compared to my definition, and that's ok.

[@Charlotte66666]

Women must always have the right to choose what goes on with their bodies.

[@sgrill11124]

Yes. Don't want a baby, don't choose to have sex. It's pretty easy isn't it.

[@kait_herring]

@@sgrill11124 So people who don’t want children should never have sex? Not how that works bud.

[@hahahaaha7208]

​@@sgrill11124 sex is a need. I will not let our flawed biology stop me from using my body for much needed stress relieving pleasure. I AM more important than a developing fetus that is ruining my body.

[@sgrill11124]

@@hahahaaha7208 get your tubes tied then.

[@Charlotte66666]

@@sgrill11124 not really how it works though, is it?

[@VeeLondon1449]

If men could get pregnant, abortion clinics would be like Starbucks. There would be two on every block, four in every airport, and the morning after pill would come in different flavours and available at every gas station.

[@danb308]

No they wouldn't be because you're making the false and typical progressive person assumption that all people think alike. All men don't think the same and all women don't think the same either. 🙄

[@zebculture839]

Nope. There isn’t even a pill for men that has been approved yet.

[@Rich-yj4ub]

If Men could we wouldn't need women that's for darn sure! The same principle would apply - Intercourse is for creating life not taking it.

[@DemonsterousD]

If men could get pregnant, abortions would be cut by a large percentage and it wouldn't be such a large scale concern. The reason? Because women are the gate keepers to sex. Men have far less sex than women do. There are more male virgins than there are female. If society were to stay the same outside of this, men would still be the providers and protectors, they would still be the ones who need to be convinced of the idea of marriage, they would protect their need for success as providers by being calculated in their prevention of getting pregnant. Things might actually be better if men were to be the ones who got pregnant because we could do away with all the monetary incentives women have to get pregnant while they're single and no one would be expected to pay child support.

[@CherryDreamer96]

Interesting stance but I have to ask, why do you think this ? And do you think this would be representative of the entire world ? Seems like a very modern Western stance on things

[@TheRealLucyMae]

I think that one issue that people forget about isn’t just bodily autonomy for the woman who needs the abortion. I had severe mental health issues after having both of my wonderful children, so bad that I tried to take my own life, I heard voices and was genuinely so poorly that I wasn’t a very present mother and to this day I feel guilt and try to make up for the “lost time”. I’ve tried a LOT of different contraceptives and they hurt my body and made me more mentally unwell. Whilst ON these contraceptives I miscarried twice however if they had been viable I would’ve had to have abortions and I would’ve been devastated doing so. But if I did give birth I would risk my own life and almost definitely go back to being medically psychotic. My children that I have deserve the most wonderful life and mother and I would think it selfish to have more children when I am incapable due to my mental health to be a present mother after birth. I am healthier now, I still struggle with mental health issues but have a lot of support. I decided to get sterilised at age 26 and have no regrets at all. My two little boys are the best people in my life and they have been at the centre of every decision I have made. I imagine if these pregnancies were viable and I kept them that I would be seen as sapping the state resources and that people like me shouldn’t be allowed to breed. Ultimately my sons deserve a present and healthy mother and that for me outweighs the potential life that would’ve came from having more children.

[@RaciePSB]

You articulate beautifully, Lucy, s as d I am glad that you didn’t have to face such a choice due to your miscarriages. However, I would worry that depending on your beliefs about human life, an abortion may have had devastating and long lasting effects on your mental health - more so than carrying to term and adopting the baby. I applauded your decision to be sterilised when you were. I wish you the best . ❤

[@TheRealLucyMae]

@@RaciePSB I have to disagree. Having another child, the physical process and hormonal impact is what has made me go into these episodes, according to medical opinion. It’s completely nothing to do with personal circumstance or just feeling like I can’t handle being a mother. The chemicals and the way my body reacts to pregnancy is why I shouldn’t ever be pregnant again. During both pregnancies I started to get the psychotic moments and feeling like I was in a fog. In every scenario other than me never getting pregnant, I would fall sick again. I often said to my doctors that my body is allergic to pregnancy and in a way I was right. I’ve been diagnosed with PMDD which is why I still suffer now. I am so proud of my decision and was so grateful to be supported as the nhs very rarely will allow you to get sterilised in your mid 20’s. I think it’s easy to say just have the baby and adopt them out but I’m still left probably fighting for my life and not being a mother for my own children. Two children need me and I have to put them first

[@RaciePSB]

@@TheRealLucyMae We are actually in disagreement, you have just filled in the rest of the picture. I know firsthand that some women just aren't cut out for pregnancy and or childbearing/raising. My own sister had to argue doctors to be allowed her tubal ligation at 27, stating she did NOT want children and never would, and if for some reason she were to change her mind she would take her chances on a reversal operation in the future. She was told that it would be a costly operation if she did need it, to which she stated that if she couldn't afford it she would have no business bringing a baby into the world because they cost even more! Fastforward many years and she did have that reversal, after marrying a staunch catholic and being persuaded to have first one, then another child. Interestingly she became pregnant on the operating table, she jokes, and her husband was stationed overseas at the time. They had done it a few days prior and she swears it is the sperm in her fallopian tract at the time that would have resulted in her first pregnancy when the tubes were reconnected.

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

Nothing you've said justifies murdering an innocent child

[@sunbeamfactory5171]

@@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge Hello. You appear to be male. This isn't your issue.

[@leapeddie3878]

Disagree with me or not but I don’t think any man should have the choice to have an opinion on pro life and pro choice. You’re not the one going through it, you never will.

[@dianehall2248]

Being a woman doesn't mean your choice in this regard will always be better, more informed, or more moral than a man's. Your logic even backfires on you because you are not the one having your life ended, you are not experiencing being aborted, so by your own logic you also shouldn't have any choice in the matter.

[@Drizzt-w1m]

That's like saying women have absolutely no right what so ever to comment on men's mental health issues, male hormones, or societal structures that harm men mentally and physically. Personally I'm pro-choice and I understand why you'd think men don't have the right to have a say, but I'm sorry I can't agree with any mentally that excludes someone from having an opinion on something because of something they can't control like their sex.

[@kait_herring]

If you don’t want an abortion, don’t get one. Don’t tell women what to do with their bodies. Period.

[@danb308]

What's a woman?

[@georgesjeandenis]

WHAT ABOUT THE BODY OF THE UNBORN CHILD?

[@AuntBee59]

@@georgesjeandenis they don’t think about that. They’re only worried about themselves.

[@persephonestardust2498]

@@georgesjeandenis no such thing as an unborn child.

[@persephonestardust2498]

@@AuntBee59 exactly. Women > embryos.

[@jewelhaines8842]

I am so angry about the Government taking away a Woman's right to chose.

[@brownbrownbrown2938]

What is a woman?

[@Rich-yj4ub]

What are you talking about. You can still kill a baby. You may have to travel to do so which is of no concern of mine.

[@aspiknf]

@@Rich-yj4ub Well said.

[@hahahaaha7208]

I am not going to say a fetus or embryo isn't alive. I'm saying that for how heavy a pregnancy is on the body and mind of a woman who does not want it, there should be a time limit to decide if you want to go through with it. I think that if I dont want another human to use and damage my body for nine months. And all forms of contraceptives have horrible side effects. And no, I won't close my legs, I think intimacy should be enjoyed with your loved one. Our biology is holding us back as humans, lets stop making womens life worse for the sake of a developing human being.

[@justapotato2434]

Kill children because the parents regret making them? Idk about that.

[@persephonestardust2498]

@@justapotato2434 it's not up to you.

[@AuntBee59]

And we are saying you had your choice when you chose to have sex.🤷🏻

[@persephonestardust2498]

@@AuntBee59 learn how consent works.

[@YeshuaIsTheTruth]

Abortion is also heavy on the body and mind of a woman. But nobody talks about that side.

[@SOOTHSAYERVEGA]

we should focus on contraption for women and men who do not want kids . Abortion should only be a last resort

[@DEUSV.Q]

"Oh father in heaven forgive them for they dont know what they do"

[@sgrill11124]

I think part of the problem is lack of education at school about what about abortion actually is. Many see it as another form of contraception, which it is NOT. Guys, please look up how a late term abortion procedure actually works. It's kinda brutal.

[@sgrill11124]

@@kataminedj the baby doesnt feel any pain? They don't have to rip the babys limbs off one by one, mush it all up and suck the dismembered baby pulp out in a vacuum? Totally normal right.

[@sgrill11124]

@@kataminedj how do you know, did you ask the fetus? Their brain and nervous system starts developing at 6/7 weeks. Is it ok to kill someone as long as they were under anesthesia?

[@sgrill11124]

@@kataminedj you're an idiot for thinking they don't. Of course they do. For many reasons... Eg. If they split up with their partner mid pregnancy, if they don't like the feeling of being pregnant ie. morning sickness, if their financial situation changes, the feeling of actually bringing a child into the world might sink in and they freak out, social pressure from peers/family ... theres many, many more reasons. People do change their minds. I used to think like you until I became a mother and educated myself. Then i realised how fucked up it actually is

[@sgrill11124]

@@kataminedj I'm a mother my baby is 4 months old. I had hyperemesis my sickness lasted all the way up to the third trimester. Without medication I would've died. I vomited up to 20 times a day. It doesn't stop at 12-16 weeks for everyone unfortunately. I totally understand why a woman that was going through hyperemeis would want an abortion but imo its not right. I have educated myself. I used to think like you but the more I educated myself the more I became against it because I actually realised what abortion is and how it works. It's really sad.

[@persephonestardust2498]

You are why we don't let men have a say.

[@purplepenquin2114]

Who does he think he is? He has the "correct opinion"? It's just YOUR opinion! You've had your five minutes of fame with your opinion now please disappear!

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

Ngl I think that the opinion "it's wring to kill children" is the correct opinion.

[@persephonestardust2498]

Seriously. Give me the confidence of a mediocre white man.

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

Who determines what the correct opinion is? Science? Or Politicians?

[@zebculture839]

No one determines correct opinion. He was just saying it was a fact rather than an opinion.

[@CherryDreamer96]

I find it very odd that people say men "cant have" an opinion on abortion... First of all, opinions form naturally. Unless you want to start talking about infringing of freedom of thought... And secondly, men *are* impacted by abortion.

[@bethanyjones8016]

I have mix feelings about it if the women is going to die or been rape or a teen but if a women has unprotected sex she wants to get a abortion but if the dad wants it I think the abortion should not be allowed

[@CyclingInKilkenny]

So you want to force a woman to be pregnant and give birth? What are you going to do, strap them to a bed 🙄

[@chrislee176]

How about freedom with respect to abortion: Freedom to not fund other people's abortions via taxation, and freedom to offer to pay a woman to bring a baby to term and put it up for adoption? Both accord with the Principe of Non-Aggression.

[@Taylor23890]

Lots of females do pay for their abortion’s . There’s too many children already in the care system.

[@anandadaquino3604]

As a Brazilian, it's very weird the concept of abortion for me. I grew up knowing it was wrong. At some point of my life I felt I was too naive and started to do some researchers about abortion, and now I'm fully convinced that is immoral. Do what you please, but it's immoral. Just own it. As grown ups we all know the risks of having sex, with ot without protection...

[@unicorn-ss9dk]

Thank you.

[@ZombieDragQueen]

I don't think the debate will change until we come to a consensus of what "life" means. Therein lies the discontinuity in the discussion. According to my dentist I have lots of "life" in my mouth that would ruin my teeth unless I brush my teeth regularly and floss. I was told I have more bacterias in my mouth than under my toilet seat. It sounds scary until you ask for specifics: what type of bacterias? Good or bad? I mean humans have existed longer than toilet seats. What about skin cells? They're "alive" until they aren't and get replaced with new ones. You have a lot of cells that die and are replaced with new ones. Every few years you are biologically not the same person as you were before. Think of your nails and hair, but it's down to your molecules. Am I committing abortion whenever I donate my healthy alive and well blood plasma?

[@craftingcameron8636]

It takes 2 people to make a child so is it not both the female and males opinions that matter?

[@ionasmith1998]

one of them doesnt have to carry the thing inside them for 9 months though do they?

[@craftingcameron8636]

@@ionasmith1998 wouldn't be carrying one in the first place if it was not for men

[@craftingcameron8636]

@@ionasmith1998 well both cant carry the baby, unless you split it in half lmfao

[@ionasmith1998]

@@craftingcameron8636 exactly, hence why abortions are a logical

[@CherryDreamer96]

Lots of weird comments here about this mans sexuality (comments about his virginity, masturbation etc) Why must we sexualise everything ?

[@bluechip6596]

murder has always been seen as wrong, but when it concerns a defenceless child it's ok?

[@Whocares158]

You Pronatalists are the Murderers. Children didn't consented to Pain, Sufferings, and Death. 🥀☠️⚰️

[@sunbeamfactory5171]

No one is murdering children. It is illegal to murder a child.

[@JimBob-vg2og]

Shame on you Rachel.

[@kcmcyc]

Wow you really got her, jimbob.

[@Productions850]

My girl in the middle has the whole body energy I was feeling!!

[@Shigur02]

The body energy of an ape?

[@ionasmith1998]

@@Shigur02 thats mean

[@ItZFlipz]

@@Shigur02 She looks better then you and I haven't look at you 🤣

[@devilsfavorite999]

I bet he's wasting a lot of seamen every day.

[@deealia2568]

In his hands.

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

Nope

[@zebculture839]

Your point?

[@Rich-yj4ub]

Women waist eggs every month. What's your point?

[@brownbrownbrown2938]

Smoke alarm

[@hahahaaha7208]

OH MY GOD. HE WANTS TO GO BACK TO THE OLD WAYS WHERE WOMEN ARE TRAPPED TO ONE MAN THEY MUST SERVE😕

[@FiatVoluntasTuaAmen]

You mean marriage? The husband is "trapped" too by the way...that is what marriage is and it is absolutely amazing for a healthy society.

[@zebculture839]

Trapped? I guess the man would also be “trapped”. And he must slave away in whatever job he had to have to support the family.

[@bkjay20]

@@zebculture839 you mean the job he had to work because his wife wasn’t allowed to work because women were seen as less than in those times?

[@artseosamhogriobhta]

Yeah, better that way. You're only miserable on your own.

[@aspiknf]

Lmao what is wrong with monogamous marriage? Monogamous marriage is my favourite. Sure polygamous people are acceptable too, in my opinion, but you have to be careful with you are creating kids with.

[@LilFoxyCosplay]

I value body autonomy I don't want kids because I would not cope with the process I know I would go over the edge if abortion wasn't an option Just having the option there can help whether you want to do it or not Women deserve a say over what happens to their bodies I'm pro choice its not about abortion being free for all its about having the option there For the record I don't have kids nor have I ever had an abortion

[@zebculture839]

They have a choice. What you don’t have a choice on is what ends the life of other people.

[@jaceanderson5748]

The option is wrong. It shouldn't be offered anywhere. For any reason.

[@Rich-yj4ub]

A woman deserves a say over their body? 🤔 So much for asking the baby 👶 about their body. How "Selfish " of you.

[@Rich-yj4ub]

​@@jaceanderson5748 Medical or Rape would be acceptable. That's about it. If the pregnancy is going to kill them both what's the point?

[@DemonsterousD]

Fun fact: A person's sex is determined at conception. Approximately 50% of the population are women. Which means approximately 50% of abortions effectively remove a woman's right to choose what happens to her body when the doctor dismembers her and removes her from the womb that's keeping her safe and alive.

[@TimBong-sb6qp]

To say "moral" or "immoral" you need to have a standard. If your standard is God, then all life is sacred and abortion is immoral. On the other hand, if there is no God, everything is permissible. Everything. Abortion, murder, rape, genocide, everything. If you became angry reading my comment, please know that I am not attacking you. I only want you to think about your position in this universe. Where do you draw your morals from?

[@craftingcameron8636]

Im atheist and even I don't agree with abortion

[@aspiknf]

You are one of the sensible Atheists bro. I think God exists and I am mostly Pro-Life (except for when the mum is raped, and when the mum's life is at risk).

[@CravingSolitude]

There’s nothing immoral about abortion.

[@dianehall2248]

There's a lot that is immoral about it.

[@Taylor23890]

@@dianehall2248there’s nothing immoral about abortion

[@pontifexinferno]

Kudos to this guy for standing up for the unborn. Not an easy belief to have these days.

[@craftingcameron8636]

Its most of us that do!

[@jessicabrady5426]

What's happened to him for him to have such a strong opinion on something he cant physically experience, he's only 18 ? And why does he think his opinion matters that much ? Strange upbringing there.

[@kcmcyc]

He said because he saw a picture of an abortion when he was a child. It was probably a very late term medical abortion, and probably traumatized him bc he was a child.

[@CherryDreamer96]

Would you say the same for an 18 year old male who was very vocally pro choce ? Or if he were very vocal about something like period poverty ? No hate, just asking

[@jessicabrady5426]

@CherryDreamer96 I suppose i would, it's interesting how our upbringing can influence us in all types of ways.

[@MustyUnderboob]

Religion

[@SSBLOYAL]

He's right

[@craftingcameron8636]

A man and a woman make a child so it is up for both to decide if abortion is good or bad!

[@mathildeyoung1823]

That's like saying "a man and a woman make a child so it's up to them to decide if infanticide is good or bad".... It's not OK to take the life of a child, born or unborn, to make your life easier.

[@craftingcameron8636]

@@mathildeyoung1823 I agree with you melon

[@grahammitchell6681]

Kudos to him for saying his opinion, albeit anonymously. There isn't a Kristen Hawkins-like spokesperson in this country, which I think there should. Does anyone know one? I disagree with "my body, my choice" because it's not your body, it's the foetus' body. That baby had a unique genetic code, which would determine sex, hair colour, eye colour, height etc, and they've been killed. I cringed when the woman on the right say "woman are empowered" - really, empowered to kill? Empowered to get rid of an inconvenience? Women, feel empowered by working, being active whilst being a mother.

[@sanqopearl]

of course it's a man talking lmao

[@bluediamond1414]

MY BODY MY CHOICE. SORRY NOT SORRY.

[@AuntBee59]

OH OK WE GET IT… THE ALL CAPS HELPED US UNDERSTAND YOU ONLY THINK OF YOURSELF. I HOPE YOU NEVER HAVE A BABY, FOR THE BABYS SAKE.

[@zebculture839]

Its literally another body that’s being killed.

[@bluediamond1414]

@@zebculture839 no. Its not. Its a pregnancy that's being aborted. Hence why ummm Its being legalised all over the world? Keep up. Times are changing. Women are taking power over their bodies back.

[@bluediamond1414]

@@AuntBee59 And I hope we never meet in person. For your sake 😅

[@AuntBee59]

@@bluediamond1414 I’ll be reporting your threat.

[@rubyring2461]

My body my CHOICE is a LIE no bany ever CHOSE to die

[@craftingcameron8636]

As males we are told that we shouldn't have an opinion on abortion, yet women tell us to care about it. Which is it, NOT HAVE AN OPINION OR CARE ABOUT IT BY HAVING AN OPINION?

[@DemonsterousD]

We also have to pay child support if they decide to keep the kid and we're "dead beats" if we decide against taking responsibility for the kid. Why should women be able to have abortions when men can't? What happened to "EqUaLitY"?

[@kataminedj]

@@DemonsterousD actually men get away without paying child support all the time

[@DemonsterousD]

@@kataminedj L. O. L...Men pay child support 85% more than women AND they pay more than women do on average. That's besides the point. The point is that if women want to be completely free to have abortions whenever they want, men should not have to deal with the court demanding child support when they do. Men should also be able to walk away from the pregnancy whenever they want, just like women can.

[@kataminedj]

@@DemonsterousD but men don’t walk away from pregnancy, they walk away from children. Which is completely different. Men also don’t have to carry a child for 9 months, using up their organs and putting their own lives at risk They just aren’t comparable

[@DemonsterousD]

@@kataminedj It doesn't matter. If a woman gets to end a pregnancy and escape the responsibility of taking care of a child. Than a man should be able to do the same thing. Regardless of what the woman goes through. Do you think men are here to pander to women? You think men owe you because you give birth? Are you one of those anti-men feminists or something?

[@stanthemafia]

I’m pro life… now what?

[@Joseph.A.J.C.Etheridge]

Protest

[@aspiknf]

I am Pro-Life in most situations too (except when the mum is raped and when the mum's life is at risk)

[@MustyUnderboob]

Don't have an abortion would be number one!

[@HBudianu]

It doesn't matter what people's opinions are. If the Creator calls it sin, it is sin.

[@devilsfavorite999]

Who is creator?

[@TamzinSpencer]

@@devilsfavorite999 Jesus, our saviour!

[@devilsfavorite999]

Are you off your meds, again?

[@malpal7614]

@@TamzinSpencer abortion is in the Bible lol

[@kait_herring]

Not everyone believes in your creator.

[@Pavle_123]

Abortion is wrong, no matter what circumstance you faced, its a child that has no say in whether it wants to live, simple as, your choice makes you become an accomplice to murder.

[@thebluedork]

I think of society as a whole would change the view that being sexual and wearing as little as possible to be accepted would change a great deal of this perspective. There is a fundamental flaw and that has to do with the way society views sex to begin with. If it was a normal thing to wait until you find the right person and there was an established education as to what all it entails to have sex then a lift of this wouldn't even be an issue. I think there should always be a choice but there are a lot of ppl using it as a way of contraception and I don't agree with that. Most people don't even think about the guy and his half of the equation. Imagine a man and woman get together and they really wants kids then she gets pregnant and then she says, nope not having it. The man who was so happy who really wanted a chicks and planned for it now has no rights because the baby isn't inside him... Where is the fairness in that? This question always bothered me as a woman because it's my body but it takes more than just one to create a baby. If we are going to look at equality then we need to look at all angles of it. If men were taught to be the men they need to be to be a provider and a partner in a relationship then again, we would not be having this type of discussion. Our culture needs to change.

[@georgesjeandenis]

WHY IS IT THAT WOMEN ALWAYS TALK ABOUT THEIR BODIES? WHAT ABOUT THE UNBORN BABY'S BODY?

[@AuntBee59]

Amen brother! We need to keep their voices out there!

[@AuntBee59]

@@user-we2gk7tf8e another non educated liberal. The baby is disturbing the mother? Wow… just wow.

[@persephonestardust2498]

There's no such thing as an unborn baby.

[@backsteinfisch3894]

@Anon Ymous You don't have to state that the unborn disturbes the mother. It's obvious if the baby is unwanted 🤷‍♀️

[@bluediamond1414]

@@user-we2gk7tf8e THIS exactly. This video seems to have stirred up an ants nest unsurprising. People continue to hide behind their beliefs and religion purporting to be doing a good thing whilst spewing hate. It's such a shame. Pro choice✊️

[@streetdog47]

Any woman that gets an abortion should repent

[@sunbeamfactory5171]

Hello. You appear to be male. This isn't your issue. Thanks.

[@Melly16yr10]

You have no say your a man

[@RolloChocolateBoy]

I think you should repent for having low empathy also keep your nose out of womens bodies

[@solorina1354]

This is not a discussion but extremely one sided. 3 against 1? Talk about an agenda to push

[@CherryDreamer96]

It's Channel 4. No surprise

[@ryanb8821]

"Found it empowering" what a heinous thing to say.

[@TamzinSpencer]

As a woman, I agree with him. Life begins from the moment the baby is concieved!

[@user-xg1dp3gr1z]

No one cares what you think so long as you don't force your views down other people's throats. If you don't want to get an abortion don't get one. If others want to, then that's absolutely nothing got to do with you.

[@kait_herring]

So as a woman, you’re anti woman? Sad.

[@katieporterswhiteboard1433]

Child support should begin at the same time as well.

[@cc97143]

Shut up lol.

[@AuntBee59]

@@katieporterswhiteboard1433 says a liberal that thinks the government should pay for them!

[@johnjesus02]

Haven't watched the video yet but I'm on the pro abortion side. Women should be able to whatever they like with their bodies

[@CherryDreamer96]

Do you support abortion I just the Early stages of pregnancy or all the way through ?

[@jakeallen8928]

If he really thinks that. take that mask off

[@cynthiajones4332]

There's so many people being killed, why? Because their being told that life has no value! Do you value life? Give the baby a chance. Do to others as you would have them do to you. Matthew 7:12 If the tables were turned would it have been okay for your baby to abort you? Instead repent/believe in God's son Jesus, he loves you and can change your heart.

[@persephonestardust2498]

What baby?

[@persephonestardust2498]

The Bible is pro abortion. Read Numbers.

[@AuntBee59]

Amen Cynthia! And no… they don’t think about the baby, they only think about themselves and their lives.

[@kait_herring]

@@AuntBee59 Yeah because a baby could ruin someone’s life. Especially if they don’t want one.

[@AuntBee59]

@@kait_herring wow, I see how your brain thinks now. Just kill it. Oh ok.

[@thaoriginator]

Mad, is that @lifewithdramanda? She made some great comments!