Fun fact: While they've never disclosed it officially due to legal reasons, they did in fact get Johnny Yong Bosch, the official voice actor for Ichigo, to reprise the role for this episode.
@ydwatt87112 жыл бұрын
That makes so much sense
@BlazeWriter3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, if they went into detail about ALL of their powers, this video would be at least an hour long! Death Battle REALLY expects you to already know these characters beforehand!
@williamts94223 жыл бұрын
Thank god for the new info tabs
@phibbykaden3 жыл бұрын
That being said, I've seen cases where the battles serve as gateways for the characters' source material, so it's not like a full suite of knowledge is necessarily required. :)
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
I definitely got that feeling
@hezzy-_-droppedu44553 жыл бұрын
They do them if there heavily requested
@Mike.3252 жыл бұрын
True
@shadowthedragonoid3 жыл бұрын
The one thing about the calculations for Ichigo is that, we learn that he has been actively supressed for 3/4 of the entire series, making the majority of calculations meaningless for determining how strong or fast ichigo is currently.
@haytham23012 жыл бұрын
just say ur mad. plus this is kid naruto but if it was adult naruto it would be a different story
@haytham23012 жыл бұрын
plus baryon mode
@RiseStreamer2 жыл бұрын
@@haytham2301 you know we kinda could say the same about ichigo since he was only 17
@haytham23012 жыл бұрын
@@RiseStreamer yeah but baryon mode naruto is def better than prime ichigo
@akolide17652 жыл бұрын
@@haytham2301 baryon mode only limits lifespan bro he’s gonna die in 5 minites
@Silent_Fool3 жыл бұрын
Fun Fact: Naruto and Ichigo’s fathers, Minato and Isshin, are played by Toshiyuki Morikawa who is also *🎶🔥SEPHIROTH🔥🎶!!!!!!!*
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow thats ironic and awesome!
@koroallie55833 жыл бұрын
So sepiroth is naruto and Ichigos dad ok
@NotAzariel2 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo fun fact Ichigo shouldn't have lost to naruto because naruto doesn't have the scaling ability to match ichigo they heavely downplayed ichigo here Ichigo wins with one hit If it was actually scaled correctly
@gg_ez69lol632 жыл бұрын
@@NotAzariel he one shots at fp, as all of Ichigo’s higher scaling feats comes from his transformed states
@NotAzariel2 жыл бұрын
@@gg_ez69lol63 ichigo doesnt need to be full power to win even shikai is overkil
@jayburn003 жыл бұрын
YWCH or whatever his name was pretty much omnipotent and almost omniscient (he sort of ate God). That was who Ichigo fought several times. To ultimately beat him, Ichigo needed some help from two people who can manipulate history and create illusions and it was still close.
@PiEiNtHeFaCe222 жыл бұрын
Yeah and that’s because ywch literally could transcend time and break ichigos bankai because even as he said it was so powerful that he needed to stop it before it was used on him.
@RookMeAmadeus6 ай бұрын
It literally took Aizen, one of the most broken characters in all of anime (and another character Death Battle SERIOUSLY fucked up calculations on), to be a DISTRACTION long enough for two other characters to create a literal split-second window where Yhwach was even ABLE to be killed. And even then, he almost managed to reincarnate several years later, but Ichigo's kid is already so OP he ACCIDENTALLY stopped it. So it effectively took THREE Deus Ex Machinas to bring him down for good.
@VirtueCry3 жыл бұрын
Naruto started off as a ninja anime where stealth, speed, and technique were key to winning. Eventually they went total Dragon Ball Z and now it's all about power ups and raw strength. They even made Naruto an alien, just like Goku.
@Dark-mi9ks3 жыл бұрын
Naruto isn’t an alien
@dabde60903 жыл бұрын
@VirtueCry The reincarnation of a guy who's a quarter alien is not the same as a full alien.
@Dark-mi9ks3 жыл бұрын
@@dabde6090 That’s not how that works.Just because your reincarnated doesn’t mean you have the same blood as the person
@dabde60903 жыл бұрын
@@Dark-mi9ks okay I don’t know why I replied to you I meant to reply to the other guy. I actually agree with you.
@ShirouBrando3 жыл бұрын
Naruto isn't an alien
@Brax_Tax3 жыл бұрын
Neither side was properly calculated, I still think that ichigo would win at the point that Naruto is at, but I guess that is subject to change since he still has more potential to grow.
@rainofkhandaq66783 жыл бұрын
They even admitted a few viseos later that they basically had to make up some stuff, as they didn't have to ability to accurately calculate some of the feats.
@Petrol_Sniffa2 жыл бұрын
@@rainofkhandaq6678 ok but even if this is true they stacked all of ichigo's modes by 10x each which 1. they are definitely not all 10x boosts and 2. he can't stack. They never calculated Naruto's power in his modes only his base mode chakra. Let alone his moded chakra stacked with other modes. He can also absorb all the nature energy in the area. They made stuff up for both sides but you can't ignore the feats. A lot of stuff in bleach (which I do really like I am not just fanboying Naruto) is not realistic. Ofcourse since it's a fiction show and all but what I mean is in Naruto powers usually have a basis that is easy to understand. Kurohitsugi if it really was a black hole would have the power to easily destroy the planet which Aizen does not have. Lots of things in bleach make no sense and you can not give them a basis in real world science. Naruto is simply more powerful and more durable than Ichigo and this wasn't even Baryon mode Naruto which absolutely violated an enemy that destroyed Naruto and Sasuke who is relative to Naruto in their previous most powerful forms with ease.
@Petrol_Sniffa2 жыл бұрын
@@rainofkhandaq6678 "stacking all of his modes was not only dumb, but not even necessarily. (wrong word) Their base calculations were trash to begin with so also irrelevant" Prove it. Why don't you do a better mathematical calculation and show it. You just say "their calculations are wrong so it's irrelevant" so prove it lol. How are they wrong? I want you to go over their calculations and show me in proper format how they are wrong. You not only have no argument, but you try and imply arguments with as much research as possible from the panels is fake with NO EVIDENCE just "I like Ichigo more so he is stronger"
@mateuszmika43742 жыл бұрын
@@Petrol_Sniffa you know in bleach most attacks aren`t made to cover a lot of area? most fights are 1 vs 1 between guys who breaks blackholes with bare-fucking-hands thats why calculations are irrelevant (if you want proof ulqiorra who is weaker than aizen made bigger explosion) and most damage and protection comes from reishi concetrating in bleach characters weapon and clothes/skin due to that even without looking super mighty they are wayyyyyyy stronger than they are like think about this yama bankai what is sun temperature sword with all its heat restrained by yama himself is still dangerous enought to destroy fucking planet with only being here not attacking but just existing and ywach killed him in one hit and after ywach become even stronger ichigo still had a power that make him dangerous for ywach a guy with time space bending powers who could make every possible future become present (im not shitting here its how ywach breaks ichigo sword in the manga) and with raw reiatsu strong enought to destroy 3 dimensions (and just becous i see many people misguided about this no it wasn`t happening due to lack of soulking or people being killed by quincies for that to happen it would take milions of souls being destroyed by quincies and take few years to destabilize universe reason why they were worried now was because if they don`t stop they now there is no one to stop them later and it might be too late then) by reiatsu equivalent of muscle flexing
@mateuszmika43742 жыл бұрын
@@Petrol_Sniffa plus naruto forms other then sage mode do not add chakra for him to use they use more chakra to give him speed/strength boost and some magic arms or others random abilites also speedwise true bankai was stated and showed in fight with ywach to make ichigo omnipresent
@zek89763 жыл бұрын
The thing why they explained SOOO much on the ending is probably because both shows are from the big three and very very controversial
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince3 жыл бұрын
The Big Three are Dragon Ball, Naruto, and One Piece. Back before it ended, Bleach was a part of the same group and it was more like the Big Four.
@Elzzaw3 жыл бұрын
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince Dragonball wasn't even running when they were the big 3. So... no. Dragonball stopped making new chapters in 1996, and super didn't start up until 2015. Bleach manga ran from 2006 to 2016 and Naruto ran from 2000 to 2014, if you don't account for Boruto. They were heavily inspired by Dragonball though, admitted by the authors themselves.
@MoostachedSaiyanPrince3 жыл бұрын
@@Elzzaw I don't think when they were running is relevant. Because yes, Dragon Ball ended for a long time and Super only started up relatively recently, but it's presence and influence was still everywhere at the time even if the series had "stopped". Also, everyone I've talked to about "The Big Three" was referring to the biggest manga/anime franchises in both the literal size of the series as well as widespread renown and appeal. These franchises are Dragon Ball, One Piece, and Naruto/Boruto. Bleach was a part of that back in the day because at it's peak, it was HUGE, but it steadily declined in popularity until people stopped comparing it to the rest of them and it fell by the wayside, even though it still has a lot of diehard fans.
@crcoghill3 жыл бұрын
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince always saw Dragon Ball as like the father of all Shonen and the big three as sons.
@kingdragongamer26482 жыл бұрын
@@MoostachedSaiyanPrince Dragon ball is not in the big 3 dragon ball is like 20 years older than the actual big 3
@ronaldolson65533 жыл бұрын
The kiss that happened between Naruto and Sasuke was pure accident... A hilarious one at that. See, they were glaring at each other, and then, someone knocked Naruto forward by mistake. You can figure out the rest from that I'm sure.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Did they have socks on though?
@ronaldolson65533 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo Sandals actually. That is the standard footwear in Naruto.
@morphingninja3 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldolson6553 What's worse for that scene? Socks and sandals or not having socks on?
@ronaldolson65533 жыл бұрын
@@morphingninja Socks and sandals, definitely.
@mikkelturtvig3 жыл бұрын
@@ronaldolson6553 sandals without socks as their toes are showing
@duduteixeira77363 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: This year there was an My Hero Academia Art Exebition in Japan and many other manga authors participate in making some MHA related arts. Like Tite Kubo (Bleach) draw Kaminari on his art style, Eichiro Oda (One Piece) draw Deku, etc
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
I need to see this
@theinimitablejora5223 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo Kyle, Horikoshi (creator and sole artist/writer of My Hero) had a submission published in Shonen Jump long before his special series: fuckin ONE PIECE FANART. And then Oda answered a question from Horikoshi! And then Oda even celebrated the launch of My Hero in 2014 when he was asked in his regular reader Q&A about his connections with other manga authors, even citing Horikoshi’s old art of Captain Smoker! WHAT a lad, both of them!
@rainofkhandaq66783 жыл бұрын
They've admitted to their calculations being poor in this episode. So I wouldn't take the result as concrete. They're not that great with anime calculations historically.
@madmintentertainment62682 жыл бұрын
where did they admit that?
@madmintentertainment62682 жыл бұрын
@@rainofkhandaq6678 i dont see that video around
@mihacimpric7452 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the Madara vs Aizen. Death Battle, CBR, and the like are not to be trusted in general
@RookMeAmadeus6 ай бұрын
Madara vs Aizen was probably their worst example. They lowballed Aizen so hard, it should've been one of the easiest wins ever for him if they'd gotten it correct. He was sealed away specifically because NOTHING in the Bleach universe could kill him. The series also strongly hints he was just getting MORE powerful as he was locked away, as he'd already started unsealing himself not long after his defeat. It's also hinted, though not conclusively shown that the omniscient, damn near omnipotent Yhwach couldn't do it when they met the first time.
@whydoistillusethissite86263 жыл бұрын
TRIVIA TIME! (courtesy of Death Battle Wiki) 1. This is the 4th Anime vs Anime themed battle, after Zoro vs Erza, Natsu vs Ace and Lucario vs Renamon 2. In the KO section, Luffy from One Piece makes a brief cameo 3. This is the FIRST Death Battle to feature additional tabs on information pertaining to the combatants in the sidebar 4. Ichigo's VA in this episode is credited as "Adam Park" but it is heavily speculated to be his actual English VA, Johnny Yong Bosch. This is because Johnny promoted the fight on his Twitter, complimented Ichigo's voiceover, and retweeted other promotional material. Ben Singer (aka, Wiz) replied to him saying, "Maybe it's just me, but I don't think we could have found a better actor for the role!" 5. If the above point is true, this would make it the 3rd fight where a combatant is played by their official voice actor, after Yang vs Tifa and Meta vs Carolina. The next one to do so is Ultron vs Sigma. This would also be the 1st fight to use a non-Rooster Teeth official VA 6. In Naruto's Backround section, "Naruto Uzumaki" is mispelt as "Naruto Uzukami" 7. For the longest time, this was the only Naruto vs Bleach matchup, but with the Season 8 Returns video we know that Madara Uchiha vs Sosuke Aizen will be taking place this year INFORMATION ABOUT THE TRACK! The song used is "Shonen Showdown" composed by Brandon Yates. The name references to how both Naruto and Ichigo are from Shonen Jump, and are 2/3 of the "Holy Shonen Trinity" It is a fast-paced rock track, with hints of shakuhachi featured in the background. While both elements are found in both series, the rock aspect leans more to Bleach, while the shakuhachi leans more to Naruto (as emphasized in the later part of the fight) The cover art for the track shows Ichigo's Zangetsu going through Naruto's Hidden Leaf Village headband
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Ooooh these are also fun facts and seriously what is your profile picture???
@whydoistillusethissite86263 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo haha, it's a long story. I won't bore you with the details. let's just say I lost a bet, had to change my google pic to this, and just sorta...kept it ;P also glad you're enjoying the trivia bits, I'll be sure to do more of them in future episodes
@mysterykiddo21677 ай бұрын
They also briefly showed Chuck Norris and Segata Sanshiro
@drakeware655 Жыл бұрын
Regarding Ichigo and Naruto's names, yes, they are named after foods. Naruto is named after a topping that's often found in ramen (which is his favorite food). Ichigo's name has two meanings, one that's the actual definition and one that's been given to him by his parents. The actual definition of his name is "strawberry," but the one he sticks with is "number one" (ichi) "guardian" (go)
@jayburn003 жыл бұрын
also, i think they underestimate ichigo's raw power significantly.
@ShimmerScarlet3 жыл бұрын
VERY much so. Ywach was going to destroy the Garganta surrounding both the SS and the world of the living, with his pure spiritual pressure. For context, in the canon movie, Senna detonated all the power she had from the blanks in order to prevent the SS and WOTL from crashing into each other. Those are both universes given that Soul King split the original Universe into one of life and one of death. Senna detonated a blast strong enough to push two universes back into place, and it did ZERO damage to the Garganta. Meanwhile, Ywach with the Soul King absorbed was about to destroy the entire Garganta. And Ichigo managed to hurt him on several occasions. Honestly, Ichigo should have stomped
@laf_foo88623 жыл бұрын
Yeah did 💀
@PiEiNtHeFaCe222 жыл бұрын
@@ShimmerScarlet don’t forget ywach also used his power to transcend time to break ichigos bankai because as ywach said it was so powerful he needed to break it before it was used against him.
@devilgod4552 Жыл бұрын
@@ShimmerScarletbleach verse is prity unstable on its own, you didn't have to be a universel to destroy bleach universe, just a disbalance is enough to collapsed it
@marlonfarias.3 жыл бұрын
This battle actually got polemic they even asked seththeprogrammer to debunk where other said for him to not debunk, and he just gave his tought and didn't really said who would win, since apparently he is doing his own version of this fight, for me I'm pretty neutral, both naruto and ichigo were above what they put they in, but i don't know if this would change anything at all, maybe not, I'm sure there's people who have a more solid answer for this fight than i have
@黒い達人3 жыл бұрын
My answer is that Ichigo wins without even using Bankai and Hollowfication, the calcs they used are very iffy, even though Ichigo has less AP(that's without trying to amp him with Bankai since we have no feats for his Bankai), he gradually surpasses Naruto in speed. Naruto has a good chance, since he's versatile with his abilities. I'd say it's 60/40 in Ichigo's side, that's without databooks for both.
@marlonfarias.3 жыл бұрын
@@黒い達人 yo ichigo true shikai scales on zaraki casually destroying a texas sized meteor feat, so he doesn't came out that short i think since the meteor has a lot more mass than texas
@黒い達人3 жыл бұрын
@@marlonfarias. That was Shikai Kenpachi with eyepatch on by the way, pretty good feat of Island lvl AP.
@Gantali93053 жыл бұрын
If i recall Seth agreed withy the outcome just not the reasons or how the fight would go. .... which i agree with.
@deheroes47973 жыл бұрын
Seththeprogrammer shouldn't be asked to debunk any death battle video at all, his answers are always wrong he tries to prove that his debunks are right but they are always wrong, he only says whats right about the ones he supports, especially goku. Don't stick to his idealogies about heroes etc, do your own research. And i bet death battle's research info's are more accurate than his
@jamauln13 жыл бұрын
I swear I'll never get tired of watching him be in utter awe at these characters.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
It's just SO MUCH POWER
@connorwood92113 жыл бұрын
- You'd probably like Naruto's dad Minato given your love for fast characters. Guy was nicknamed the Yellow Flash - Naruto also has a reverse version of the Sexy Jutsu. It may sound ridiculous but it manage to distract one of the strongest characters in the series for a sucker punch. I mean if you were fighting someone and they turned into a naked girl or guy, you'd probably taken off guard. - Something I have to disagree is Naruto being dumb. Sure he wasn't smart at the start at the start and was naïve but in the later half of the series he certainly improved. He mastered techniques that took over years or out right failed and figured out the weakness of opponents by himself when no one else could. -I never read or watch Bleach so I gave up trying to follow all the info
@ahedjehad85143 жыл бұрын
what's weird (for me) is that Naruto's reverse sexy harem jutsu, a jutsu where he turns into a bunch of naked guys, is a jutsu that Naruto has trained in secret longer than any other jutsu that Naruto knows. which makes me question his sexuality...then again, gay people in the past irl have been married to women. :)
@snowman96313 жыл бұрын
naruto is never gonna be an intellectual powerhouse but he isnt dumb and his book smarts have nothing to do with fighting ability. he has consistently shown that he can hang with the greats like sasuke, itachi and madara in terms of tactics on the battle field.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Did someone say fast?
@vaasmontenegro20163 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo he is so fast but you can probably still outrun him
@pandanoko7293 жыл бұрын
The whole manga/anime protag constantly evolving trope is because since the series keeps going with the protags getting stronger, enemies need to keep being stronger to give a challenge and interesting story. Sadly, many times the manga writer has to perform ‘the ass pull’ when they’ve have written themselves into a corner. If an enemy is so overpowered to the point of even questioning if defeat is even possible then the protag gets a random, out of nowhere, power boost that has little to no explanation. This can also lead to something like Ichigo loosing his powers or a change in protagonists such as Naruto to Boruto since they pretty much peaked in their power so how can they even have a challenge with a BS enemy.
@pyronuke47683 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the power creep in some shonen media can reach levels that is just frankly absurd.
@Londronable2 жыл бұрын
@@pyronuke4768 The problem is that often manga writers want to write a closed story. The manga makes money so now it HAS to continue. Android 17, 18, 19, 20 AND cell, all as basically the bad guys, don't exist because they were all planned. It's because the writer was asked to get a "real vilain" on multiple occasions instead of just the androids.
@calebgoodman20763 жыл бұрын
“Burrito, Boruto same thing.” Actually it’s the katakana for Bolt. You unintentionally called a bolt (that you build with) a burrito. My sense of humor can be just as bad as Whiz’s sometimes.
@leagueplayer5802 жыл бұрын
Seeing ichigo get beaten by naruto still hurts😰,you do great reaction videos. Keep it up.
@luckysage42402 жыл бұрын
honestly they seriously lowballed ichigo. until the end of the series his own power is activly fighting agaisnt him, and hes very much suppressed. At full power ichigo is comparable to another character named yamamoto, who was so powerful in his prime simpley powering up would risk destorying the world
@Zumzy-k2qАй бұрын
This is one the biggest low ball in anime history
@shirothegamer75743 жыл бұрын
Honestly, there was a lot of stretches in logic that was involved in deciding the winner. The strongest enemy naruto fought was an alien, while ichigo fought freaking godlike beings, it's like comparing crushing an ant to breaking a human bone. Entirely different feats.
@danielwilson86043 жыл бұрын
except the alien WAS a godlike being. there's no actual context there. that's like saying that because a soldier is welsh he can't be as strong.
@librask30092 жыл бұрын
But that alien was pretty much seen as a god and as strong as one would assume a non-omnipotent god would be. That's like calling Goku "just an alien" when he without a doubt could beat both Naruto and Ichigo in a millionth of a blink of an eye in base form
@БуянтоСультимов2 жыл бұрын
This "alien" was strong enough to blow up whole dimensions
@jayburn003 жыл бұрын
By the way, someone made an argument that Ichigo is around 5 times the speed of light (they actually say closer to 10, but they doubled it due to some false assumptions they made). So Ichigo might be 5 times the speed of light. Also, Ichigo's Vasto Lorde bezerker form causes multiple "nuclear" explosions to go off that are so powerful they affect other realities, while in another example of him flexing, literally holds and contains another "nuclear" explosion in his fist. Basically, a nuke went off in his hand, and he kept the blast from escaping by closing his fist around it (that is some grip), and it did no damage to him (in some ways, he basically crushed a nuclear explosion with his grip). By the way, they are rebooting/continuing the bleach anime where it left off, going to cover the Thousand Year Blood War Arc which is where YWBCH is from.
@jayburn003 жыл бұрын
@jon arthur you need to see the hell verse. Also, vasto lorde ichigo literally crushed a nuclear explosion in his fist (the lances his enemy was throwing).
@PiEiNtHeFaCe222 жыл бұрын
@@jayburn00 don’t forget when fighting ywch dude literally made sure to transcend time to break ichigos bankai because as he said it was so powerful he needed to break it before it could be used on him.
@owainwilliams123 жыл бұрын
when it comes to the speed of lightening nowadays depending on it being either the leader or the return stroke it's usually either 220,000 mph to 767,000 mph
@Yo421692 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: this death battle was made before the final arc in Bleach (the thousand year blood war) and Ichigo became more powerful than Naruto
@ex_kantochamp. Жыл бұрын
it's notihing new it's literally just anime of the last arc how would it help him. unless the anime upscales his feats
@Mangumboys885 ай бұрын
@ex_kantochamp. The anime did upscale his feats.
@tuyub65773 жыл бұрын
If you want more info about it look to Seth The Programmer and Clyde because they talk about power scaling and more in depth into their power
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND9 ай бұрын
These characters are actually quite relative (despite the lowballs and highballs from both fandoms)... For me Naruto wins just because he's more haxxed out and skilled. Though one thing is for sure that DB didn't really do a good job analyzing either of the sides, since whether or not you think Naruto wins, or Ichigo does, both of their scalling were quite questionable..
@reginaldcopperbottom17388 ай бұрын
Ichigo was lowballed to fuck in death battle and wasn't even accurate,tybw ichigo wins by just sp alone,excluding sp VL ichigo is enough
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND8 ай бұрын
@@reginaldcopperbottom1738 as if Naruto wasn't. They calc'd his AP by that explosion caused from Narutos raw blob of chakra and said that's the max he could do 🤦♂️ Also sp ain't doing sh
@reginaldcopperbottom17388 ай бұрын
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND sp is easily enough to kill or atleast bring naruto to his knees alone,even if naruto isn't lowballed,he's still getting beat by ichigo
@reginaldcopperbottom17388 ай бұрын
@@UNKNOWNL3G3ND *
@UNKNOWNL3G3ND8 ай бұрын
@@reginaldcopperbottom1738 sp won't be able to do shit. It's the worse argument bleach wankers make, yet normal ass humans in the series can survive it, or in some cases fodder shinigami
@MeelogMalterion3 жыл бұрын
the Chuck Norris one is actually really good I recommend it his opponent is someone as equally as powerful I think youl enjoy it too
@sethgibson51483 жыл бұрын
He's already seen it. It's in his playlist.
@MeelogMalterion3 жыл бұрын
@@sethgibson5148 oh so he forgot when he asked whys Chuck Norris there?
@sethgibson51483 жыл бұрын
@@MeelogMalterion I'm guessing he just didn't see Ichigo flying in the background of them fighting.
@MeelogMalterion3 жыл бұрын
@@sethgibson5148 oh I dont remember that but I remember the end shows all sort of death battles when they attack connect the universe like shimmers and we see all the realities but thanks for telling me now im gonna go watch the reaction
@trey52773 жыл бұрын
All I need to say to show how little they know about the bleach power system is ×10
@Melikith3 жыл бұрын
They did this mainly off feat. Bankai ichigo at the time didn’t have that many feats of great merit. Until they wrote more of the 1000ybwa
@youssefibrahim54967 ай бұрын
as a naruto fan ichigo wins by a little, but they both still 4d universal+ even potentially more
@alejandroo41603 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Naruto’s dad (the fourth hokage) was so deadly, entire armies were given orders to flee on sight if he showed up. This is because his teleportation technique is way more than just teleporting. By basically putting a seal on someone, he can hear everything they say and hear and monitor everything they do. In short, not only could he teleport, he could mark you, hear EVERYTHING you’re planning, then teleport into your house and kill you in your sleep. And by the way, he’s considered one of the weaker hokage. The first and third were each literally called the God of Ninja
@soku3303 жыл бұрын
What about tobirama?
@alejandroo41603 жыл бұрын
@@soku330 he basically invented most of the stuff that made Naruto’s world what it is. Including the Shadow Clone jutsu. Naruto probably wouldn’t be the same without him
@kieranwrightstone21993 жыл бұрын
Honestly I was more hopeful that Ichigo would win and yeah about the episodes, I’ve just read the manga for Bleach and haven’t seen all that much of Naruto. On an unrelated note for Desthbattoe, it seems just a loud everyone missed something for the Hellsing Abridged. Not much, but a small minute and a half trailer/prequel to Episode 4.
@funny9able3 жыл бұрын
The Nine Tail is a Kitsune a very famous and well know Yokai. It was in Pokemon (Vulpix and Ninetails) and a few scenes in Shang-Chi. Duck Record 37 W 26 L (0 In A Roll) Highest Streak: 5 Me: 4 W 6 L I Like This
@Londronable2 жыл бұрын
Ahri from League of Legends is another one. Same with the monkey king that is present in many things. Wukong, that final fire evolution, etc.
@timbrwolf11213 жыл бұрын
"You gotta be careful where you're swinging that" *Blushes* Oh stop
@captainmarvelous76733 жыл бұрын
Just for clarification, the TNT now will be measured in orders of magnitude like the storage on a computer. (KB, MB, GB, TB etc) 1000 tons of TNT = 1 Kiloton 1000 Kilotons of TNT = 1 Megaton 1000 Megatons of TNT = 1 Gigaton 1000 Gigatons of TNT = 1 Teraton and so on
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Never thought that would be a thing
@MeelogMalterion3 жыл бұрын
8:52...thats just Brilliant I laughed far too hard at your comment
@xviza90003 жыл бұрын
Can you please react to videos that debunks some Death Battle fights? Would be interesting to see you react to them. Of course react to them after those fights.
@OverlordGab3 жыл бұрын
By that time it was correct It was a moon/planetoid-buster Vs. a contintent-buster The main issue for Vs. debaters from my community (myself included) was the speed given to Bleach (FTL is just wank) Right now it's up to debate thanks to new stuff
@emperorjacques72823 жыл бұрын
ichigo definatly got disrespected in this video, it would only take him 10 seconds lmao
@Rick-D-993 жыл бұрын
(Although it's not in my Character to care), May I ask how?
@emperorjacques72823 жыл бұрын
@@Rick-D-99 well his spiritual pressure alone would probably stop naruto dead in his tracks, and the maker of the video seems to have forgotten that ichigo's flash step is faster then light (virtually teleporting). Oh and he totally downplayed ichigo's destructive power, late series ichigo could level city blocks with normal swings
@Rick-D-993 жыл бұрын
@@emperorjacques7282 Like how he defeated Aizen very quickly? I'd imagine that Ichigo would defeat Naruto.
@devilgod4552 Жыл бұрын
@xboxone1543that movie is cannon and writer by kishimoto, that wasn't an explosion, explosion destroy things in all direction, that was a shear flow of his chakra in one direction
@devilgod4552 Жыл бұрын
Naruto's planet is much bigger than earth, spiritual pressure didn't do much help since Naruto characters always live in a high pressure atmosphere of planet, and to counter flash step naruto has body flicker technique (also a virtual teleportation), both sides are heavily downplayed kid naruto had stop giant snake calc to be Multi city block level
@IchigoTheQuincy Жыл бұрын
people are too worried about ichigos possible potential due to kubbo limiting him even in the end and ignoring the actual potential weve seen from naruto already show us
@Silent_Fool3 жыл бұрын
2:17 In both dub and sub, Naruto is played by female voice actors.
@All_Powerful_God_Enel3 жыл бұрын
Bleach is a very, very, very hard series to use in vs debates by the nature of its powerscaling, you can see for yourself how much they struggle to come up with Ichigo's numbers in the video. But having never watched Naruto, I still agree with the outcome, even if their calcs here are very messy on both sides.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
There's just so many versions and the scaling is insane
@Chibi13313 жыл бұрын
You should react to the Ichigo vs. Ulquiorra fight
@Brobuscus1013 жыл бұрын
So you’re going into Season 5 next. If it’s not in the playlist, you’re next fight is Black Panther VS Batman. Season 5 starts kinda rough, but very quickly, it’s quality is so through the roof, many people consider it the best season of Death Battle yet.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
It is next!
@DieselWeasel3 жыл бұрын
Think of a teraton like data. Byte < kilobyte < megabyte < gigabyte < terabyte.
@игнисЛевиоса3 жыл бұрын
They took his spped in true shikai because he traveled from palace in shikai. Hes Bankai boost speed mostly. So Bankai+Horn of salvation =10+ times of the speed they take. Plus even main villain in manga said that hes true shikai is=dangai/mugetsu(final form). He said now you as strong as when you fight Aizen. So its just stupid that thay take mugetsu as his strongest form(the forn that he literally had in the middle of the series.
@Death366693 жыл бұрын
Okay so the reason anime have characters have so many transformations is partly the success of DBZ and it’s a convenient way to give a character a power boost to over come a situation they do not have time to train to beat. Also it allows for more merchandise to be sold of characters.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
So its like plot armor kinda
@argusvoidstar41772 ай бұрын
Well most power boosts in shonen usually are acquired through a training of some sort, no matter how short that training is. So its just a convenient way to boost power multiplicatively for a short time.
@connorharnage66973 жыл бұрын
This episode just reminded me of the day I Naruto ran to the bus. I don't know what's weirder, the fact that I did it or the fact people cheered. As for the win, I don't agree with the way it happens but I do agree Naruto would win. By the time of the current arc, using the final getsuga would be an unnecessary risk so the fight would be much closer
@terrynasonisasupervillain90173 жыл бұрын
Nice video and hi Kyle
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Hi Terry
@natiep84332 жыл бұрын
Everyone in the comments: "They nerfed naruto and Ichigo!!" Me: "Bro, you've never eaten an orange?!"
@Silent_Fool3 жыл бұрын
Finally the best Food Wars Episode! 🍜 vs 🍓
@Rubyshedinja333 жыл бұрын
The actual va of ichigo from the anime voiced him here
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Oh? How'd they pull that off
@supercoolmaniajon265 Жыл бұрын
"Is that the best you can do?" *proceeds to use all his rei*
@thesevendeadlysins5783 жыл бұрын
Both Naruto and Bleach are in my top three anime of all time and that won't ever change.
@sethgibson51483 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they went into full detail that somone who hasn't seen one of these (let alone both) so that person could understand. This video would be over an hour. Not counting the fight or the analysis at the very end.
@NateTmi3 жыл бұрын
naruto did most of his training with the toad sage so all the frogs u see are a summoning jutsu where naruto piriformis hand signs & one drop of his blood & energy to summon a frog, the more energy the bigger the frog can be & the stronger it is but use the wrong hand signs or be too slow & regardless of energy it could be very small
@ryuujisan17682 жыл бұрын
Duck, in reality Ichigo would win..he was said to be stronger than naruto & Luffy(from One Piece) he's fought enemies stronger than Narutos enemies but Ichigo has a limit but Naruto is limitless as long as he is still gaining Nature or Tailed Beast Chakra..which he has contacts with 9 tailed beasts in shippuden
@senicahenry20518 ай бұрын
Ichigo is way more powerful they didn’t even use ichigo fullbring mode which was more powerful than the black haired ichigo
@NikkiTaLance3 жыл бұрын
Bleach (along with DBZ and Sailor Moon) is part of the original and only "Big 3" of anime.
@darkforce27873 жыл бұрын
to be honest I didn't want anyone to die in that battle because I love both Naruto and Ichigo. Please watch Naruto and Bleach duck they are both great shows to watch I recommend them.
@theredriver2070 Жыл бұрын
And we still don't know who wins after this long *well some of us do (SethTheProgammer)* but we all know what happen (right)
@tyforestreacts3 жыл бұрын
Hehehe… speed wasn’t the deciding factor. Love it.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
You're right it wasn't
@игнисЛевиоса3 жыл бұрын
They took his spped in true shikai because he traveled from palace in shikai. Hes Bankai boost speed mostly. So Bankai+Horn of salvation =10+ times of the speed they take. Plus even main villain in manga said that hes true shikai is=dangai/mugetsu(final form). He said now you as strong as when you fight Aizen. So its just stupid that thay take mugetsu as his strongest form(the forn that he literally had in the middle of the series.
@theonethesequel3 жыл бұрын
I recommend to react Dr Doom vs Lex Luthor pls.
@YungandRekless5453 жыл бұрын
Be dope if you did Bleach Abridged. I hopped in at episode 12 with no context and it completely sold me on the series.
@duduteixeira77363 жыл бұрын
In a interview with Masashi Kishimoto (author of Naruto) and Kohei Horikoshi (author of MHA), he said to Horikoshi to do his best and try to surpass One Piece in the future, which was really a big honor.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
How would he do that
@kimberlygarcia77643 жыл бұрын
naruto's name has two meanings which are Maelstrom and a ramen topping also naruto's godfather came up with his name while eating ramen and for Ichigo Depending on what Kanji are used "ichigo" could mean either, "a strawberry," the phrase "word for word," or "number one" implying the best.
@duduteixeira77363 жыл бұрын
One Piece, Naruto and Bleach were the big three in 2000s, but since Naruto and Bleach were over only One Piece is the only one that is still going (technically continuing with Boruto and recently Bleach made a come back with a one shot special chapter setting up for a possible return)
@warbird3333 жыл бұрын
After you eat an orange try eating a chocolate orange. It has more of an orange sense than an orange taste.
@OliverTeLouie3 жыл бұрын
Please react to Foekoe's 2 videos called: 'TF2 is still the king' and 'The abuse of TF2' both are good.
@GCRavn422 жыл бұрын
13:59 To answer your question. Yes, “Ichigo” is the main character of the series.
@jigguscak3 жыл бұрын
If you ever wanna see the full story of Naruto without watching all the episodes, you can watch Somemoegaming's Naruto in 18 minutes and Naruto Shippuden in 13 minutes. There's also Bleach in 16 minutes if you wanna see Bleach's story.
@SPEEDY40043 жыл бұрын
dont be to confused with a show named after a cleaning product each story arc's enemys and places' names are based on another language (puns) - the final evil quincy ones just had to be ww2 german based again... mfg Olli
@kevinbell56743 жыл бұрын
Well, I mean, the sole Quincy that the show followed from the start did use German for all Quincy terminology. There was no way that you didn't see it coming. Besides, you know it was because of the uniforms.
@argusvoidstar41772 ай бұрын
@@kevinbell5674 Ishida's bow after he regains his quincy powers and the high speed movement that they use is japanese for some reason
@kevinbell56742 ай бұрын
@argusvoidstar4177 Those are the only two exceptions oddly. I can understand Ishida naming his own bow, something Japanese, but the Quincy speed movement is a weird inconsistency.
@rarebear17522 жыл бұрын
Neither character’s power was properly assessed. Ichigo seems to get a greater nerf in my opinion. Ex. When they say that ulquiorra could destroy hueco mundo. This was a great downplay. Releasing his first, of two, resurrection (form) would destroy hueco mundo. Through the arrancar arc, resurrections are often implied to be a similar power increase to bankai releases. Ichigo with his hollow mask fought against the first resurrection on the defensive. I think ichigo would win, until they include boryon mode for naruto which has recently come to existence.
@therupz2 жыл бұрын
Yeah Adult Naruto has crazy feats
@wingedbluj16743 жыл бұрын
Chuck and Segata are STILL fighting.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
I mean why not?
@arthurwatson25553 жыл бұрын
I guess speed didn't quite kill it this time
@HeadBodyMasterPersonal3 жыл бұрын
Duck: (sees a character with an even slightly anime aesthetic) Clearly, this is a Jojo character With both this and Sephiroth Vs. Vergil, we finally, FINALLY get to the point where you see that speed DOESN'T necessarily mean automatic victory, and that will continue to be the case. SPEED ISN'T ALWAYS THE ANSWER. Also, as a huge Bleach fan, your inability to follow Ichigo's analysis is, on one hand, amusing, but on the other, infuriating. Please just stop living under the largest rock in the entire multiverse.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
I have Jojo PTSD and I'll be fast until it fails me. Also whats a rock?
@corryjamieson39093 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo when you gonna watch Jojo mate?
@crcoghill3 жыл бұрын
than again it was Ichigo, the one attack pony, vs alien ninja Jesus. it was an unfair fight and, personally, i don't know if I'm ready for the day Luffy fights him. i just don't want to hear Naruto fans say all kinds annoying stuff afterwards like how Goku fans get riled up from the Superman fights.
@Tada_Room3 жыл бұрын
@@crcoghill But even with one-attack he still had the power to defeat Naruto... I mean, Naruto tanked the freaking Mugetsu by just shouting to Kurama? Seriously? Normally True Bankai Ichigo would've been enough to deal with Six Path Naruto Kurama Avatar, if we concider that his Getsuga killed the god. (Yes, than Yhwach rewrited his death but he still did). The only way I see Naruto winning this is by sealing Ichigo by Shukaku's ability or by Reapers Death Seal (Although Ichigo is a reaper himself). Ichigo survived the freaking hole in his chest the size of a volleyball, beated the crap out of Ulquiorra and regenerated it as if his heart and lungs are nothing while the same Ulquiorra couldn't regenerate any of his inner organs even being the Espada with the strogest regeneration factor.
@calebgoodman20763 жыл бұрын
How old is Naruto you say? Well in the first series he’s 12-13, second series he’s 15-17 and the third series starring his son has him as a full grown adult.
@krbchris263 жыл бұрын
He is 18 by the time he gets to the war in Shippuden
@Silent_Fool3 жыл бұрын
@@krbchris26 then he is around 27 in Boruto.
@blackwing2da4453 жыл бұрын
Get yourself a bro like my boy KURAMA. B)
@nahuel34333 жыл бұрын
I dunno about the result. What I do know is that they used very suspect feats for the characters. Like for one they never mentioned that the moon that was cut in Naruto was almost completely hollow which bumps that feat down quite a bit, or how the lightspeed beam was dodged because Madara spit it to a side and then made a swing with his neck that Naruto dodged (plus he has danger sense, he can pre dodge) making that speed feat not really eligible. Bleach in general is hard to gauge the exact levels of power of the people involved so I don't quite blame them.
@manofculture66892 жыл бұрын
Look the "hollow moon" thing is just a myth it isn't even a true thing
@akolide17652 жыл бұрын
@@manofculture6689 it is true wdum
@manofculture66892 жыл бұрын
@@akolide1765 dude it's just a theory search it and you will know
@Kaempfdog3 жыл бұрын
Naruto, Bleach, One Piece, and DBZ are the big anime’s. These shonens are the REALLY big ones. And you see a lot of stuff in MHA from these. They are very influential…and they often go a bit too long in show size. Which can be to the detriment of the show. And I’ll say no more to avoid stepping on toes. I can only scale DBZ properly.
@marieporter94883 жыл бұрын
The original quartet of shonen (I remember seeing fan art of each of the main characters meeting each other)
@Kaempfdog3 жыл бұрын
@@marieporter9488 the Shonen Kings. Probably some of the most broken fictional characters in existence. I mean…also the big comic characters.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Its like a mount Rushmore of animation
@thehowlinggamer57843 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing the reason he lost those powers stems from his Quincy blood. After all, we've seen another Quincy use a technique to boost his power, but then lose his Quincy powers afterwards...
@ManuelRodriguez-by5su3 жыл бұрын
The inspiration for the lost of power most likely comes from that (the Letzt still) but is not the canon reason, at least with the info we know... because Isshin (Ichigo's father) new and tried this technique that comes from their Zanpakutō lineage Engetsu ---> Zangetsu... and Isshin isn't a Quincy, nor does he have Quincy powers. But the inspiration, yea that's defo because of Letzt Still, no doubt. Even the having a gauntlet that disappears, it fits perfectly.
@bananaBread16 Жыл бұрын
Yea, common death battle L. Ichigo destroys but im too lazy to explain why and bleach is complicated Edit: a month later and i still agree even after rewatching it. Knowing them they probably just pulled a dio vs alucard and didnt show anything for ichigo.
@lucariomew3653 жыл бұрын
All long-running Shounen anime eventually suffer from "power" creep. For example, let's say a shounen manga series starts with a random mailman as the protagonist and the story is about his everyday life. By the 25th chapter, the genre inexplicably changes to hard action for no reason. By the 50th Chapter, the first major arc finished a new set of dangerous foes. By the 75th chapter, the hero (who is no longer a mailman because he's too busy fighting) gets a power-up. This means even bigger threats, resulting in even more massive powers. By the 150th chapter, the protag can fly and defy the physics of the story's setting. This results in huge stakes, so by the 200th chapter, the protag reaches demigod status. By the end of the series, he becomes God but will likely give it up to be a regular human or just hand around regular humans🤷🏾♂️... ^That's basically the absurd power progression, aka power "creep", that plagues the Shounen manga/anime. You just leant to not question it after a while.
@richardmorgan36653 жыл бұрын
Dude you seriously missed out on a lot, like is it possible to have tried an orange by the time you're an adult. You did had Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh! (If I remembered correctly) which are both fantastic anime. Naruto and Bleach are both really good anime, if you don't want to check the anime out anytime soon, why not look at the cool and beautifully animated fights especially in Naruto. Also fun fact Naruto and Bleach were both animated by the same studio. Also another fun fact I finally subscribed to the channel, I like your personality, you're kinda funny.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Never in my entire life have I eaten an orange lol I've heard great things about both animes! I appreciate your subscription and thank you for doing it and watching the videos!!
@DutchDread3 жыл бұрын
Remember when Vasto Lorde blew up hell? Too bad they didn't use that.
@potatosalad36553 жыл бұрын
And remember when aizen was basically vaporising other shinigami who get too close cuz of his reatsu while he was sealed? Ichigo should have even denser reatsu and isn't in a sealed state No human no matter how strong should even be able to get close to em without disintegrating unless he allows it
@lesnarahamilton56743 жыл бұрын
IM not saying ichigo would win but im saying the blackhole in the box death battle messed up on when aizen first used that he said it was a very weak version as that move is very difficult to control so at the final battle as he did the full chant that black box was very very deferent to his cuting weaker one.
@devilgod4552 Жыл бұрын
Blackhole power is determine by it size and both of tham roughly around the same size
@alexispacheco9647 Жыл бұрын
Ichigo should have won
@undeadMonk3 жыл бұрын
As a fan of both series I can say that this is probably the outcome that should have happened. Naruto has so many more offensive options than Ichigo does - like, back in 2004 or whatever, Ichigo definitely would have won, all Naruto had were shadow clones and the base rasengan, and Kurama making him go berserk. But Naruto's upward trajectory got absolutely _nuts_ in the second half of shippuden - and if they're including his stuff from Boruto? No contest, sad as I am that my boy Ichigo lost.
@novaclasher69 Жыл бұрын
well no that explaination is pretty much wrong here almost accurate explaination kzbin.info/www/bejne/haO4n3Z9iaerY7csi=mxv3JOHpfKtsMPWI
@belphemmore3802 Жыл бұрын
ur clueless my guy, naruto doesnt even beat stupid luffy.. and ichigo is god against them
@itsJosii Жыл бұрын
@@belphemmore3802 Luffy is the weakest out of the big 3 Naruto Slaps him no diff I love One piece and even i can say that theres nothing luffy could do to win Vs naruto yet alone ichigo
@duduteixeira77363 жыл бұрын
Another Fun fact: In this Death Battle, Ichigo was voiced by his english voice actor from the anime.
@murasaika27763 жыл бұрын
Johny yong basch!
@1204khalil Жыл бұрын
basically the movie was the thing they took in count the most to decide the winner even when current naruto wasnt even as strong too cut the moon yet they didnt give any power up to ichigo after showing his true zanpakuto death battle is very bias when narutoverse is presente
@fadeddragon1233 жыл бұрын
As a fan of both series… naruto does win… but they give the wrong reasons for some things. Their speed calcs are also a ways off.
@SylverQrow3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that was obvious. Reincarnated demigod vs ultimate hibrid
@Caruto3 жыл бұрын
Now i'm here You should watch the " life of naruto uzamaki " You would get naruto full backstory in a simple video
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
How long is that? The show is super long so that video must be
@Caruto3 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo yeah I went and check it out but there's parts and both is an hour long So never mind
@michaelmunns3 жыл бұрын
Well now you know the big three ( dbz, naruto and bleach) congrats.
@ageridthesilverdragon44403 жыл бұрын
well the big three they talk about is naruto, bleach and one piece (there is a new list of big three around every 10 years.) Dragon ball was on the big three with yu yu hakusho and Sailor moon. the big 3 after naruto and co. was full metal alchemist brotherhood, hunter x hunter and attack on titans (season 1), and according to data i have been show the current big 3 is my hero academia, Demon slayer and Black Clover... it is a mix of fans and shonen jump who decides who is the big 3.
@theduckgoesmoo3 жыл бұрын
Thanks dad!
@michaelmunns3 жыл бұрын
@@theduckgoesmoo your welcome son
@sakshamdpokhrel79783 жыл бұрын
@@michaelmunns you literally removed most selling manga LMAO
@michaelmunns3 жыл бұрын
@@sakshamdpokhrel7978 ya
@jayburn003 жыл бұрын
thought this was a bad match.
@pyronuke47683 жыл бұрын
I remember when this episode came out. There were SO MANY Bleach fans butthurt over their boy not winning. You could barely go anywhere in anime circles without someone trying to justify why they were right and Death Battle was wrong. I personally don't really care; I hate matchups with overpowered characters. The power creep in some shonen media can reach absurd levels, and both Naruto and Bleach fall victim to it.
@princetotx67053 жыл бұрын
tbh death battle's are so bad. ichigo would clap naruto if you give him 2 mins
@pyronuke47683 жыл бұрын
@@princetotx6705 if that's your opinion then you do you. Honestly I don't care if Death Battle is right or wrong, I watch them to go "Hot damn, Goku vs Superman? Hell yeah, bring it on!" I see it for the spectacle, not the result.
@princetotx67053 жыл бұрын
@@pyronuke4768 nah im just saying they need to research more into these characters skills and feats
@TheEDSONROJO3 жыл бұрын
"Your gut!?" Really. U were right. Amazing.... but Before that. U thought ichigo was form where? Man. Yeah i know i shouldn't be Surprised at this point.
@micheal59733 жыл бұрын
People don’t really like this episode because they might actually be drastically underestimating ichigos power and we never got to see what his end forms power was on account of it being thanos snapped out of existence. But just as a quick example ignoring ichigos fullbring powers cause no one knows how that works... the ulquiorra fight they use as the base for ichigos power could be as low as just 1/4 of his true strength. Because he has hollow, Quincy and soul reaper powers clashing inside him all the time he’s never able to truly use his full power until the final arc came around. His vasto lorde or mugetsu forms are more what about 1/3 of his true power should be before applying multipliers from merging forms. Mugetsu being his quicy powers sacrificing itself to seal away his hollow side so he can use 100% soul reaper power without interference and vasto lorde being 100% hollow because he was well dead at the time