I hate my Honda Lawn Mower. Should have bought a Briggs

Honda lawn mower HRR216VYA. I do not like this lawn mower after over one year of ownership. I explain in the video. Walmart had a Briggs and Stratton electric start self propelled lawn mower I wanted to purchase. Problem was a waited a little too long and that style of mower was discontinued.
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[@Dawnarella1]

Funny how a lot of the things you had complaints about they have fixed on the newer ones maybe your review got there attention and they fix some of those problems . Thank you

[@displayfireworks2008]

I thought that same thing. LOL Thank you for posting .

[@IceBiiRd]

Yes & even at least most of the complaints are solved with the new Honda HRX series. Which I’m picking one up next week.

[@04yungin86]

@@IceBiiRd did you get it how was it ?

[@oldschoolfoil2365]

They haven't fixed nothing on the newer model it has gotten worse this model is better the newer model plastic rim under the deck is even closer to the blades creating issues with dirt and mulch being hard wedged pushing the plastic into the blades on the HRN the holes in the under rim are the same and the handle bar mounting is as loose as mother goose for all that money.

[@donotrobme9295]

Never met one person who prefers Briggs over Honda. I’ll trade anyone all day

[@oldschoolfoil2365]

just the motor but honda has a long way to come with deck design briggs mounted decks craps all over honda deck mowing platforms. something the big money boys need to consider in the reputation business.

[@donotrobme9295]

@@oldschoolfoil2365 I’ve owned em all. The Honda engine outkasts and the hinds with double stack blades with mulch control can help u get away with no grass

[@oldschoolfoil2365]

@@donotrobme9295 yep honda engines are awesome

[@donotrobme9295]

@Dodger Blue 44 I also feel Honda needs a 30” commercial. I’ll take the toro/exmark 30” with briggs over a 21 Honda Just my opinion. Not feeling grumpy at all honestly

[@rodneycaupp5962]

My Honda blew up, My Briggs / Troy Built won't quit on the same kind of slopes

[@KirbyVacuumCollectorFixer]

I got my first Honda (HRR216VKA) last spring. I was so impressed by it, I got two more, an HR214SXA from 1985, and a brand new HRX217HYA. Honda is incredible and I can’t imagine why there would really be any issues with them, other than user error.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

Yeah these are very specific complaints... my mower clogs 4 or 5 times per lawn and I have a small lawn

[@KirbyVacuumCollectorFixer]

SCraig 2018 Hmm. I wonder why. I have never had a clogging problem, and my yard looks larger than your yard based on what I saw in the video. I suppose it could be a few factors such as mulching wet grass. That can clog, but I can’t seem to find any other cause of clogging.

[@WJCTechyman]

Oh, the HR214, for 30 years, incredibly durable machine. My current one smokes at cold start but once warm, the machine runs relatively clean. It needs to have a hole patched next to the transmisssion and soon needs a new bag but it has been a very reliable machine. I grew up with one too that used to mow some fairly high gradient hills out in the country. I may say they were, in some areas, more than 20% and that machine continued to run for another 20 years after the first eight or nine. Well, I have to admit it sat for five years with a clogged carburetor but one cleaning later, it fired to life and gave me another three seasons before ultimately being scrapped as I learned a bit about small engines repairing that machine and probably would still be running today if I didn't take it apart and messed with it. I have two other Honda mowers, one being an HRR216 that needs some work and an old polymer (NeXite) bodied HRM215 that I absolutely love as a mulching machine. Neither of those machines have a drive system which sucks, but are relatively light to move. At some point I want to replace one of these two machines with a Honda HRC2163HXC (known in the States as HRC216HXA) and also have a side discharge elbow. Right now for side discharge I use an old poly snow pusher blade as a deflector and the bag door held open by some channel aluminum.

[@justanotherjoe6151]

Surprised that there are so many 👎🏽 on this video. Have the same issues with mine. All valid points.

[@loganpalazzolo6195]

YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT EVERYTHING I HAVE MY HONDA FOR 19 YEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! EDIT NOW 2021 I STILL HAVE MY HONDA HR194

[@taimahshu4920]

I miss my dodge neon too! They discontinued it for some weird reason??

[@lawman722]

how about a yugo?

[@dr.crentist3155]

For the height adjustment... I just simply drilled an extra hole on each side. Looks like it came from factory. Now handle clicks in for taller user. Used this mower commercially. Mulching 100% of the time. Mulches incredible I was buying a new one each year from wearing them out (wheel gears), now use honda commercial with wheel ratchets. But other than the wheel gears the home depot honda mower is a great mower

[@spacecowboy98]

Yup! You aren't the first one who has pointed that out. In fact another guy who was 6'-4" tall has a video on KZbin about drilling another hole for that adjustment.

[@bradytallred]

Dude just doesn't like foreign made things. Honda mowers are made right here in the US just like most of their cars. He is trying to find stuff to complain about.

[@user-lp4bl7gq7g]

Clean your mower after every use and the grass wouldn’t build up. Tighten your screws and the handle wouldn’t shake like that. You never flip a mower on it’s carb side.

[@displayfireworks2008]

There are no screws to tighten-the handle

[@loganpalazzolo6195]

@@displayfireworks2008 yes

[@Anonymouso283]

Bruh who the hell cleans their lawnmower? That is a complete hassle to do. Only on a Honda right? I have never cleaned my Briggs Snapper and no problems besides self propelled going out, but hey, more exercise the better.

[@Coldheartedmanong]

@@Anonymouso283 if you give a damn about you equipment you’ll clean it every so often, not a Honda thing

[@Anonymouso283]

@@Coldheartedmanong I do care about my equipment. I do wash my machines. But a god damn fucking lawnmower? You people are fucking weird. I’ve never heard of a person who cleans their lawnmower. Oh well, I’ll just stick with my Briggs & Statton for another 15 years lol.

[@letsgoracing78]

I find your compliments so trivial that they honestly are not to be taken seriously. I'm 6'3 and the height of the bars are fine The self drive lever is in a very easy location. The tiny bit of grass that gets into those spots for the bag only happens when you run without the bag. And only take a literal seconds to clean. It's a 21" mower that's pretty normal for a push mower. The blade engagement bar almost takes no effort to hold. My 5'4"girlfriend uses our mower sometimes and she's never complained as much as you lol 😆 and we have 1/2 acre in the Seattle area.

[@joeschmo2883]

I feel the opposite... my brigs has a major flaw that a lot of them have. The way the gas tank is I always had issue with spillage... zero issues with Honda.. engine issue is well documented it was a husqvarna brand mower

[@FishFind3000]

Shit my Briggs and scrap iron engine on my John Deere tractor blows it’s head gasket. It’s a pos design flaw. I’ve put on 2 head gaskets and it’s only got 150 hours on it.

[@malcolmnicholls2893]

I think all small mowers should be avilable with larger diameter wheels, even as an option.

[@rodneycaupp5962]

Malcom, is smarter than the Chinese building our Honda Mowers

[@johnnyglexus5730]

Should have got a HRX or the commercial version. Your yard is big enough a rider should be best. I like my HRX.

[@IceBiiRd]

This right here ^^ exactly what I was thinking, should’ve gotten the Honda HRX

[@g.hacksaw7054]

"I bought the cheap one and am mad at Honda for it" -thisguy

[@michaelmactavish1728]

@@IceBiiRd i have a 12.3hp honda hrx217 model with hydrostaic 9 speed transmission and blade clutch its the best unit plus id put it through 6 foot tall overgrowen grass and weeds wich cuts through like a bush hog

[@lukeWiz44]

*"I hate my Honda lawn mower"* Said no one ever.

[@BadfingerFan]

Yes, he hates his Honda mower, but you gotta give him credit. He's stating his opinion and going against the crowd, so he's not trying to win a popularity contest. Furthermore, he's used the mower extensively and gives concrete reasons for his opinion. His review is actually quite excellent.

[@lukeWiz44]

BadfingerFan I wouldn't call them concrete reasons. He's just saying why the mower isn't for him. But for the other 99% who like their mower, they have nothing wrong with it.

[@liveuntetheredmusepodcast4832]

lmao, exactly! Usually after dealing with ten other brand mowers,...people finally realize, and buy a Honda mower! (as my neighbor just did lol)

[@lukeWiz44]

God sees all!!! Ever heard of a warranty?

[@joshuaslawncare3771]

Luke Harrison so

[@22Dylanh]

EVERYTHING you said in this video is TRUE. I’ve used just about every model of Honda mower made within the last 10 years or so. (Side gig with a lawn care company) I’m in the market for a new mower because my (Toro) Briggs and Stratton mower finally hung up it’s hat. It still runs but the self propel transmission exploded and it’s not worth fixing. I’ll still probably buy a Honda but I LOVED how you hit all of the annoying points on the head.

[@therealtech833]

At least the Honda is made in the USA🇺🇸, North Carolina.

[@jeffnussman5884]

Sell it and buy what you want! You’re not “Stuck with it!” The re-sale value is pretty good since it’s a Honda!

[@carlstoutamire9525]

Thats right pawn it off to another SUCKER who believes in HONDA "QUALITY"

[@joshconover1069]

Thanks for the honest review. Really helpful, I'm looking to buy a mower shortly and I am considering this model.

[@TocyBlox]

Even though the Honda mower sucks, the Honda engine is the best in the market, the Briggs would not start up if you forget the oil in the gas tank, you have to disassemble the mower to fix it, but on a Honda, it fires right up.

[@ymariependleton-gaston4555]

I just got mine yesterday and unboxed it today. The only complaint I have so far is the handle also. This mower was not made for tall people 🤦🏽‍♀️. I will mow in a week so hopefully with the new upgrades that’s the only thing I can complain about. Thanks for your review 😀

[@joshuacheek5140]

I have the same one and the newer model of this and I'm very satisfied they fixed all those issues. The handle is taller now the shoot doesn't build up grass in the bag clip area so bad unless you cut wet grass. And the handle if firm. They ditched all the adjustments for the drive blades and rpm tho. I used some rubber stick on seals and closed up some areas on the new one and it suvks in all the grass better now and doesn't flings dirt and grass out the holes.

[@andybub45]

I have a Honda and I love it. Never had an issue once besides the rear wheels locking up when the mower is pulled back. The new HRN fixes that though.

[@NipItInTheBud100]

I’m not sure why you are complaining about the cut width. Unless you don’t know how to read you should have known that when you bought it!

[@scottvan1898]

This man has to to this video & said all these,because he try to convince he’s old lady at home to get the new lawnmower, 😂😂 For me I would get a riding lawnmower of that size lawn myself as that’s age。

[@Dutch054]

I feel your pain. My Honda 21” only cuts 21” wide too. But my old Murray/Briggs 21” would cut 33” wide. Weird stuff

[@joshuaslawncare3771]

That is a lie!

[@Dutch054]

Laura Mcknight surely you have to know I’m kidding.

[@joshuaslawncare3771]

👍

[@eleven7328]

i own that same lawn mower i love it. i don't have to restart the mower every time i have to move something or empty the bag.

[@josephgl805]

Well Honda mowers are not for everyone only 99% of the people like them.

[@tyrockwood792]

Good luck starting the Briggs

[@tinkerscorner54]

I didn't like the "Smart Drive" at all when I first got the mower. It took me a while to figure out where to put it, too. Once I got used to it, though, I've noticed that I now mow one handed more than I ever have. 180-degree turns are almost effortless, and the wheel always seems to land exactly where it's supposed to for the next line. It may be that it's because I'm probably shorter than you are. Mine also has three holes for the handle height and I use the middle hole. The other piddly things I just take care of as they happen. You think that there is a lot of grass in those little holes under the deck. Just wait until you change the belt. There will be dried grass in all sorts of places that you never had on any other mower before. The one thing that I really don't like is the amount of dust that comes through the bag when bagging the grass. I won't wear a mask for the C-virus, but I will for the Honda bagger (if I don't want my sinuses full of mud). I have no problems when mulching but once I switch to bag, I mask up or tie on a bandana. The cut quality is my favorite part and is better than any other mower that I've ever owned or used over the last 50 or so years that I have been dealing lawn mowers. A reel mower on short Bermuda grass may be slightly better, but I don't have Bermuda anymore. In my yard, a reel mower leaves too many long stems. The Honda doesn't care what type of grass it is. It'll cut any of it good. Have a great weekend!

[@Toadster250]

I have this same mower bought it brand new 3 years ago. I have not been very happy with it either. Mainly because the drive wheels do not roll backwards very well and there was a service bulletin about it but when I took it back to the place I bought it they would not repair it under warranty even thought it has a 3 year warranty. I have sales receipt and it has not been 3 yrs yet. I also hate the grass discharge out the rear right at your feet instead of the side. The wheel are small and don’t get much traction being made of plastic instead of rubber. I do like the roto stop and throttle control but that’s about it. I don’t understand how they can refuse to do a warranty repair when there is a bulletin and it’s still under their 3 year warranty.

[@TocyBlox]

Todd Esbeck if your mower discharge from the back, that means it’s not primary designed for discharge, instead it is primary designed for mulching. Also, I don’t think the drive wheels goes backwards on any walk behind mower.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

TocyBlox yeah, Honda fixed this in the new model, but yes, self-propelled mowers are not to be used in reverse

[@WJCTechyman]

@@SCraig-Handsome My HR214SX can be pulled backwards and has a 2 speed transmission. Actually, rolling it backwards is probably better for the wheels than pushing it forward when the machine is off as the ratchets engage the drive shaft and the drive shaft rides on two ball bearings. Now, the transmission, on the other hand, may not be so happy. Not that the wheels really wear out pushing forward as I have only had to replace one set of wheels on the HR214.

[@blank71]

I just bought one... No issue here... Love it... Cut real good

[@JMan4261]

You made some good points. The holes on the bottom seem pointless. Maybe they are there for vibration reasons. I still have my Honda model from 2010 and it still runs strong. Starts on the first pull. I am looking to get another Honda because my turf is thicker and my old one is starting have a though time cutting it.

[@bowmaster24]

This guy is a dealers worst nightmare. These aren’t even problems. It specifically says not to tip it carb side. The handle is a dead give away when you are first looking at it, and the self propelled control can be adjusted yet you aren’t satisfied with the positions? I just don’t understand this video haha. Why did you buy it to begin with?

[@sparkmeister4706]

Any big purchase you need to research and try before you buy. this clearly didnt happen. Some people just find other things wrong with a thing when they dont like it. This is why you go to a specilist seller instead of a supermarket.

[@SCraig-Handsome]

Maybe to have something to complain about? And Briggs are not Honda engines, you just can’t beat a Honda engine

[@BadfingerFan]

The "thumb paddles" found on lower-end model Honda mowers are not ergonomic and probably Honda's weakest feature. Even when adjusted, I was unable obtain a satisfactory hand position. Honda GVC 160 engines are much noisy than even more powerful Briggs & Stratton engines thanks to Briggs excellent mufflers. I've also experienced both hot and cold starting issues on a Honda, as well as carb problems.

[@WJCTechyman]

@@BadfingerFan It depends on the model of mower, some Briggs engines could have pancake mufflers that make a lot of noise or go to higher end units and they could have mufflers that make the machine sound like a sewing machine next to a commercial axial fan. Honda's made some pretty quiet mufflers for its machines, so I don't know where you get your information. I have seen the build quality between Honda and Briggs mufflers...and other components and Honda typically has better build quality. Sorry, that's just what I have found.

[@jakefr5150]

I used to have the previous version of that mower. I agree about the handle issues - the wobbly handle was annoying, and the bolts that hold it in the holes were weak. I ended up drilling an extra hole to raise the handle. I also didn’t like the SmartDrive lever because it was uncomfortable to use. Other than that, it was a good mower and I used the hell out of it. I literally used it until the wheels fell of - the front bracket broke off and could not be fixed. Replaced it with a Honda HRX with blade stop and hydro drive. It’s much better.

[@whodey59]

Funny...most everyone else on the planet says Honda engines are better than Briggs & Stratton engines.

[@blank71]

They are.. Way better

[@loganpalazzolo6195]

I agree

[@BadfingerFan]

Concensus can be, and is often, wrong. While Honda lawn mower engines are very good, they are not the holy grail the brand-dropping crowd perceives them to be. Case and point: My Honda GVC 160 engine was under powered when compared to my Briggs & Stratton 173 cc engine. The Honda was harder to start in both cold or hot conditions. On the other hand the Briggs & Stratton engine started easier, had more power and was far quieter. Quieter, thanks for the nice, ear-saving muffler. Honda, on the other hand, minimized their mufflers on their GVC 160 and GVC 190 mowers. Buy a briggs & Stratton 7.25 hp or more engine and find out for yourself. Your ears will appreciate it.

[@whodey59]

@@BadfingerFan Briggs & Stratton makes good engines too. I had a 170cc engine in a John Deere self oripelled. It ran well over 12 years with just regular oil changes. But this guy is making out that this Honda is no good. Which is absurd.

[@andrewsampeer]

My fathers honda mower is 25 years old and runs and starts perfectly. I baught a briggs and its a total peice of junk. Ill deal with the little details you complain about if the honda lasts me 25 years.

[@Perrin6688]

Love my Honda. My Honda is much more reliable than my other two Briggs motor mowers

[@Anonymouso283]

Calling bullshit. Briggs never EVER broke down on me, and I got a 15+ year old one and a 10 year old one that haven’t given me any problems. (Only self propelled unit failed but that will happen..) You must not take care of your machines, bud.

[@manofculture4945]

Italian Stallion I don’t why everyone has so much hating towards each other, I have both both Briggs and Honda but both of them work very good if you take good care of them and not abuse them

[@Anonymouso283]

@100 Subscribers with some videos challenge It’s not hate, it’s just frustration. Honda’s fan base is extremely, “I’m the BEST!! You fucking losers have unreliable pieces of shit!” You can see this type of behavior on Honda ATV channels, Honda Lawnmower channels, Honda Motorcycle channels, Honda Side By Side channels, etc. Another thing, they always talk shit about other companies that they haven’t ever tried, but still think that they’re the best because their machines are reliable. I see it everywhere. “Can Am is unreliable pieces of shit!” “Yamaha is trash! Also unreliable!!!” “Kawasaki is garbage, and also UNRELIABLE!!!” It’s. Just. So. Fucking. Annoying.

[@Anonymouso283]

@100 Subscribers with some videos challenge Just search on KZbin something along the lines of Honda Vs. Yamaha, Can am, or just any other machine companies, and go straight to the comments. Especially on Honda ATV channels, whooo boy, you’re gonna see a lot of Honda fanboys in there.

[@digbick2773]

169 Subscribers with some videos challenge my step dad has a Briggs and we took care of it, it definitely wasn’t very reliable

[@vrr2201]

Honda wanted to give you some extra chores to clean up grass. Yes those grass holes under are annoying.

[@Znew07]

Just fill them up with some epoxy if they are really bothering you.. done.

[@tim9m]

For in extra 100 bucks you could have upgraded to the next level Honda Versamow system. I hate. briggs and have my reasons , that is why I bought the Honda Mower.

[@rickwhite3700]

I got the hrx217 used in 2007. Used it commercial a couple seasons and at home since, still runs. I just picked up a second one yesterday for 50% off, I'm guessing bc box was damaged bc I can't get anymore at that price or I would have bought all they had

[@benkiist8218]

Plot twist. Briggs doesn’t make mowers, they make engines. MTD makes decks unless you buy a JD, Toro, or Honda

[@johnoberle9750]

Ben Kiist Briggs owns snapper and other brands so technically they do make mowers.

[@WJCTechyman]

@@johnoberle9750 Did you see the top of the line Briggs owned Snapper mower? It has a Honda GXV160 engine like the commercial Honda has. Unfortunately, the commercial Honda beats out the Snapper with a shaft driven hydro trans and blade brake clutch like the ones that date back to the 1980s HR214SX. It also has the option of a decent discharge. Other commercial equipment Briggs-owned manufacturers feature Honda engines on them too. Billy Goat comes to mind, but those companies also have Vanguard, Subaru and Kohler Command (Pro) engines, more or less based off of the GX and V-twin commercial engines from Honda.

[@johnoberle9750]

WJCTechyman I buy mowers with Honda’s Gvc 160. On my second one they work good. Never had a problem with any other engines I’ve owned. Not a fanboy I fly no flags. I like Honda.

[@inkstain7193]

I drilled an extra set of holes in my older Honda mower so it sits higher. Turn the gas of when you turn it on its side.just bought this model for $560.

[@rashadabdullah9769]

Honest and to the point. I never owned a honda mower and im on the look out for smthn i can depend. I want to buy a new mower with a powerful reliable engine. The very first point you brought up was actually a concern i had regarding the self propel lever. Just looking at it alone made my hands hurt. Overly engineered imo. The good thing about honest videos are the honest comments and feed back. Seems like honda listens and improves their products. Oh well, when get cash i will go try out a few brands and see. Thx for the review.

[@tinkerscorner54]

I didn't like the "SmartDrive" lever at first. I now mow one handed using my thumb and my palm. It's the absolute easiest to use AFTER you get used to it. Until then, it just seems weird.

[@rashadabdullah9769]

@@tinkerscorner54 well i got a brute mower with bicycle lever style drive and its great. Simple straight forward. But the motor omg is it tough. It just wont quit. Briggs 190cc 6.75. Over 10 years old, and it has its problems, but it wont quit at all. I just modified the blade adapter to run a 22 inch oregon gator g3 and its the best blade. It mulches, throws, and is easier on the engine than the stock snapper blade that came with it. Like, i cant believe how that blade made such a huge improvement on the cutting capability of my mower.

[@tinkerscorner54]

@@rashadabdullah9769 Yeah, I like the Gator Blades, too. I put a pair on my mother's Cub Cadet Zero Turn and she likes them a lot. I also like the older Briggs engines and have a several of them on spare mowers. I repaired a Brute mower like yours for a friend about a year ago. It's a good mower and, even if it's been neglected (like his was), can be brought back up to do a good job again. But my favorite is the Honda HRX217 with the SmartDrive. As I said, I didn't like the SmartDrive at all at first. But once I got used to it, it's so easy to control the speed you need for the different mowing scenarios. And the two-blade setup has such good cut quality, whether I bag or mulch. I've got to where I use the grass from the bag to cover seeding in bare spots because it's cut so fine and uniform in size. I also use it in my compost pile for the same reason. I've never had any mower cut as good as that one. Take care and have a great weekend!

[@rashadabdullah9769]

@@tinkerscorner54 thx, here we getting hammered by rain so my weekend was spent inside LOL. I really wanted to know how the honda dual blade stacked up to the gator. Was at my local shop the other to ask about hardfacing. Wanna modify my gator a bit. Is the smart drive hydrostatic? Bcoz ive had a chance to use a cub cadet rear wheel drive. My mower is not hydro and if i lift the back wheels up to turn it i risk damaging the teeth in the drive wheels bciz its a solid axle. But the cub cadet was hydro, the wheels can spin independently. Friend of mine told me i shoulda buy the cub cadet 4 wheel drive mower but at that time i was under the impression that it would b 2 solid axles like my brute. I will b honest tho, i wont b in the market for a new mower. I dont know if i mentioned it but i did make a sacrifice this year to buy a brand new briggs engine. Same line as the one i got 190cc, but its the more powerful profesional series with ohv putting out 8.75 ft/lbs. When the season is over i will reluctantly install bcoz the current engine, everytime something happens to it and i fix it, it keeps going. I mean, its astonishing. Its the reason why i bought a new briggs.... anyway, one more question: your honda, what its displacement and torque? More to the point: its iron sleeve, do you need to warm it up b4 using it? Here is a link to see recent trouble with my briggs, if u scroll up through my feed you can see the rest: m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=pfbid02kWjw7f34uoHFa5F4rqWNeovc4WtVNEgALdF5fbuhHrjXN7Jn11H9UUXKsf5zhPNal&id=100010969839594&mibextid=Nif5oz

[@johnblack8187]

Honda’s are the best push mowers on the market. Had mine for 17 years. Still works with no issues. Just bought the new hex electric start and loving it. Have had 4 Briggs mowers in 3 years. Two brand new out of the box spewed oil everywhere. Would never buy a Briggs again.

[@lparsons6977]

Did it come with s box of puffs 😄

[@tmo4330]

My Honda cost me around 800 dollars or so. It was stolen so i bought another one just like it. The commercial versions are so great and will last a long time. I use high octane gasoline. Best mulching blades on the market. It will even mulch zoysia.

[@mystuff1405]

Best for all small engines to go ethanol free. 87 octane.

[@coobay978]

I've been using a Lawnboy 2 cycle Gold series since 1994. Starts first pull, it's lightweight with aluminum housing. Just keeps on running. Well worth the $425 I spent 27 years ago.

[@customcoffins]

I am still using my 1980 Lawn Boy. I have a short block for it, if the engine ever fails. I have gone through several sets of wheels, a few ignition coils, a few carburetors and several starter ropes. The thing will outlive me.

[@Znew07]

@@customcoffins anything will outlive you if you replace all the parts that go bad.. but I do agree the old school law boys were the best push mowers out there.

[@frankjgornickjr3676]

Yeah I just bought one and it's like $100 more and I'm kind of disappointed another problem is the level adjustment with the wheels it's on the one side the left side do you bump it when you come next to like a post it will pop down to the next level another words that will pop out of setting in the front. Too much plastic underneath I use mine for about a half an hour I don't like the adjustment with the thumbs either for the drive.

[@tomaxxamot2016]

I've been screwed over too many times by Briggs I will stick with Honda's

[@johnoberle9750]

Love the Honda engine. It can be had on other mowers. Had a Toro super bagger with Honda engine . Nicer than Honda’s I used.

[@DeadKoby]

The Honda brand mowers I used in the past were easier to start because of the blade being disengaged......... BUT if you didn't wait for it to warm up, engaging the blades would stall it OFTEN. I was no fan of that feature.

[@keithc1335]

I don’t like mine either. There is wayyyy too much resistance pulling it backwards and it leaves divots in my grass. I pulled the whole transmission and rear axle apart thinking that something was wrong. It turns out that the design just inherently has a ton of friction even at ‘rest’. I like the rear discharge and the cut it great. It’s not great for mulching. I have spectacular grass and I mow twice a week, but it still drops huge clumps of grass all over the lawn. It might work excellent on thinner grass.

[@JoshuaAndMom]

The new lawnmowers are pure junk nowadays, whether you buy it from walmart, lowe's, home depot, tractor supply or ace hardware. My uncle has a lawn boy push mower which is basically 20 years old and John Deere garden tractors (most of the tractors are over 30 years old) and did not even have one issue with it. The older mowers (up to the 1990's) are definitely a lot better than any new mower, whether honda, lawn boy, briggs, tecumseh, john deere, wards, or sears, and whatnot. You can also look around for a vintage 1980s Lawn Boy 6261 for 50 bucks that is still in perfect condition.

[@user-ix9th6uq8z]

That Smart Drive dodad is the worst, most il thought out, piece of nonsense i have ever witnessed on a lawn mower. Who the heck ok'd this abomination?!?

[@Mr_Tecumseh]

Be thankful you bought the Honda, that particular engine has been around 20+ years now. The new Briggs engines are junk, the last good one was made in 2017 which was the Quantum, Briggs is currently in bankruptcy, so their future isn't certain, Honda is safe.

[@fearlesspancake9817]

I love hondas if you want i can take it off your hand ( if you still have it ) i am 15 and trying to start a lawncare business. Have a great day

[@shangrilaladeda]

You bought the commercial version it’s meant to be used everyday not for luxury, the hrx 217 is for homeowners and so much better it’s just not designed to be used everyday

[@ajleslie2]

Like the HRN but the bag is too small and we absolutely hate the Smart Drive. Probably go back to the Craftsman we've had for 10 years.

[@Egonzales85]

I don’t think it’s the Honda motor that’s bad it’s the design. Briggs/Toro has been doing it longer plus they don’t make civics. I can see the handle being a pain in the ass.

[@andybub45]

New Briggs and Stratton engines have major issues. Hondas mowers and small engines are the best in the business.

[@texasvet7241]

Returning my Honda mower today. It leaves a ton of random pieces of grass every time I use it. My old Toro single blade cut beautifully. But we need a self propelled now and this one is disappointing.

[@vinceschannel8927]

“It’s like a cheap car, you feel every bump in this thing” well it is a Honda.... LOL

[@mrbriggs68]

Mower at Walmart is made by mtd with a Briggs and Stratton engine

[@kingcobrahs]

Doesn't Wal-Mart sells Chinese knock off lawnmowers??

[@spacecowboy98]

@God sees all!!! What the hell is your problem? You know you're going to hell to burn for all of eternity,

[@ibrahimore1934]

@God sees all!!! yes Briggs Stratton all the way made in America

[@hpgdawnpatrol9456]

I have a Briggs (Troy Bilt) 190cc 21" Fwd self propelled and its a p.o.s I've replaced the carb on it at least 3 times in 8 years, the belt drive for the self propel is slipping, the wheels are bald and it's trouble to start nowadays. Once running it runs kind of rough. Getting a Toro HRX super recycler.

[@spacecowboy98]

You have very little good to say about this fantastic US made machine. And . . . . . . You're not stuck with it. You can sell it and get a TroyBilt Briggs & Stratton engine. Don't punish yourself get what you want. You will get top dollar for the Honda. So get rid of it and get what you want. Make yourself happy be cuz you are looking for every reason to not like it.

[@alexhickey5633]

An honest review the way i see it. If honda still made an aluminium deck mower i would have bought one. Why wont i buy a second hand honda? Well basically only the commercial companies use them, and theyre used every single day. They get run into the ground with untold hours. Indeed many honda mowers i have considered buying, needed a full engine rebuild purely from use and the asking price was damned near what my brand new briggs DOV mower cost. I own 2 very old briggs mowers, a mk1 quantum and a mk2 quantum, one 30 years old and the other 34 years old. Both still run perfect and cut perfect but high hours are getting to both of them, mainly the mk2 quantum from 1990 with over 1000 hours of use. Most parts for both mowers are very scarce. Engine parts not too scarce but i doubt many places will even know what the mk1 quantum engine is anymore. Found it hard enough to get an air filter box for it

[@nvdubs]

You do know these plastic decks have lifetime warranty if they break don't you?

[@alexhickey5633]

@@nvdubs yea i know. I dont like how theyre much wider than the path they cut. That was a big decider for me when buying a mower

[@stmcgarret]

@@nvdubs The warranty is a joke from what I've heard. A number of videos of decks cracking or damage from rocks (a reality if you live in the country w/ gravel driveway) and Honda did nothing. People had to repair with plastic welds or JB weld. Ridiculous for an $800 mower. My old Honda w/ aluminum deck never had those issues and I've hit many a rock or branch.

[@tinkerscorner54]

honestly think that the Quantums were the last really good engines that B&S put together. Since then it's plastic, plastic and more plastic.

[@paulmoldenschardt2728]

I bought a 24 inch cut cub cadet it is self perpelled also one of the best mowers out here

[@customcoffins]

The real story is his wife is pissed that he spent too much money on a mower. She wanted him to buy the cheap Chinese Walmart disposable mower. She wanted to buy a purse and matching shoes with the savings. This guy is hilarious.

[@greg4ou]

Toro personal pace is the best

[@smallengines1018]

3:42 those holes are for air Flow

[@BadfingerFan]

Excellent review. I owned a very similar Honda mower with the NeXite deck. When you state that the cut pattern is a bit narrow, I know just what you are thinking. The Nexite desk is huge in width and extends far beyond the 21" blade. It is frustrating when the wide deck prevents mowing near fences and other borders. Also, the mower requires more storage space than just about any other 21" lawn mower on the market. Why have such a space-hogging mower with only a 21" blade? The control "thumb paddles" are not ergonomic. A moderate amount of thumb pressure is required at all times in order for the self-propelled feature to engage. Even when adjusted for user comfort, none could be optained, due to poor designed and limited adjustability. This is probably the mower's biggest flaw. Honda chooses low restriction mufflers for both their GVC 160 and GVC 190 motors. Maybe some people don't think about the health of their ears, but believe me, Honda mufflers are a big fail. Compared to the mufflers on Briggs & Stratton's 190 cc motors, there is no comparison in terms of noise--Briggs are much, much quieter. And while we're speaking about sound, I never liked Honda's drive mechanism's clicking sound. It click when the mower is rolled, even if the motor is not running. My Honda's handle was very strong and rigid, so rigid, that it transferred all the bumps and vibration to my hands and wrists. Honda was the only mower that made my hands feel numb. My Toro Super Recycler's handle was not as rigid. However, the lack of rigidity helped to insulate the bumps and vibrations. Honda has a fuel shut off, which is great especially if you must tilt the mower. As with all lawn mower engines, including Briggs & Stratton, the mower should only be tilted with the carburetor side up. So Honda gets a point for having a fuel shut off valve. I agree that the Clip Director isn't that great and must be cleaned out, but it's still pretty good. Most of all, avoid cutting wet grass. Yes, the NeXite deck's underside bee hive/waffle openings can be a problem with debris and moisture. In addition to usng a honda gvc 190, I've also owned a Honda gvc 160. The 160 was noisier than my briggs 190 cc. The honda had both common hot and cold start problems and needed a carburetor rebuild, while the Briggs still starts on the first pull when cold and was never worked on. My Super Recycler was easier to roll than the Honda, plus, it didn't make any of the annoying clicking sounds. The mower was smaller, yet still employed a 21" blade. There really are no perfect lawn mowers, however. Toro Recycler's have excellent, intuitive controls but have far weaker transmissions. Much to my disappoint, Honda lawn mowers are a let down and did not live up to my expectations.

[@Mr_Tecumseh]

1. That thing on the handle wasn't a Briggs design, its its whatever mower manufacturer your talking about. It sounds like the EZ walk from Husqvarna. 2. Grass builds up on any mower, you gotta clean that off. Flick of a finger for the bag holders. 3. The carburetors are located in the same spot, Honda and Briggs. 4. That back area with the holes is the mold from the factory and for added strength. 5. Its a standard 21" cut mower. Its the same size as any 21" cut mower size wise. You go back to referring to another mower as a Briggs. It had a Briggs engine, but what mower are you referring too? 6. You go back to saying maybe Briggs had a patent on the other style drive lever. The mower isn't Briggs, its whoever made the mower. Lastly, if you like your other mower better, why did you sell it? You say this one cuts nice. Your right it looks like it does. If you don't like this one, sell it and go back to another one that had a Briggs. Tell us which mower that is, because the mower isnt a Briggs only the engine is. The new Briggs push mower engines are crap, they have plastic carburetors, their generally toss away engines now, but if you think thats what you want go back to one. Briggs is currently in bankruptcy keep that in mind as well.

[@dimik7533]

Hey where did you get that striper blade on the back?

[@joshhill7188]

I bought a brand new Honda and this thing doesn’t cut all the grass have to mow twice. Hard to run a business mowing lawns twice!!

[@bwenluck9812]

I hope by now you've gotten rid of this mower and bought a different mower that you like better. Life is too short to be constantly aggravated by a lawn mower!!! You're NOT married to that mower.... I bought a Toro Smartstow w/a Briggs and Stratton engine four years ago--I still love it! It folds up like a suitcase and sits in the corner to save space when not in use. I want another one!!! 😁

[@gncc600]

You got the cheap entry level honda. I've had an HRX for 7 years not a single problem. My neighbor drags his TORO recycler over to my house every spring because the pos wont start. My honda starts in a 1 or 2 pulls after setting all winter.

[@whodey59]

This mower he has, the new HRN 216VKA is a quality mower too. 170cc engine. This guy just misses his Walmart special.

[@norge696]

I don't care if you have a $10,000 mower. if you leave old gas in it you're going to have issues regardless.

[@kvnhmmd]

Find a station that sells non ethanol gas. It's usually $1 more per gallon. Perfectly fine to let that sit in your small engine for up to 8 months. Run a fresh tank through at least once a year, and you'll be fine. I don't care if you use fuel stabilizer, ethanol corrodes your carburetor fairly quickly.

[@gncc600]

@@kvnhmmd I run non ethanol in all my equipment. I'm lucky that I have a station right by my house that sells it.

[@stevec541]

Honda rear wheel lock up is the only real problem with them. And it is significant, this guy mentions it doesn’t coast well. Maybe he’s talking about that.

[@Milo-mc6dd]

You could have seen 85% of those things before you even bought it. Sounds like a personal problem hahaha next time use your head

[@karlpickett6035]

I have an HRX and hate the stupid hand controls for the self propel. They are very un-ergonomic. The neighbor's toro is much easier with a push bar.

[@brettcave3637]

Can you complain about anything else? sell it on Ebay and get your new mower.

[@excellularmobile3991]

100% correct about the grass build up where the bag rests on the mower!!! It's a real pain in the ass cleaning it all the time. The wheels wear out also. I happen to like the smart drive and the blade stop feature. My Honda mower is 7 years old. Motor siezed up. Totally my fault. When checking the oil, you must screw the dipstick out, clean, then reinsert without screwing it in. I didn't do that and was running with low oil for years. YES, I'm an idiot!

[@robnation2475]

3:45 you could fill them with spray foam😀

[@mario7mag]

I absolutely hate my Honda mower. It take at least four pulls to start no matter if it's warm or cold. It doesn't have a throttle adjustment so I am stuck with it being very wimpy and shutting off with any tall grass. Also it locks up when you pull it backwards. I had an old Murrey that I used for 20 years with out any issues. The body finally rusted it out and I figured I would get "the best" and got the Honda. Pure junk, i hate it so much i am going to destroy it so no one has to deal with all the issues I have with it.

[@JBr-xw4xt]

I hate my husqvarna with a honda gcv190, auto choke feature is crap, replaced thermowax, removed added manual choke wire… still runs like crap… starts easy but if it bogs down and dies when it starts hot it sputters… have to cool the stupid thing with a garden hose.

[@MrMmorgan30]

Should of got updated one

[@uga83joe]

Sell the one you have and get the HRN series mower. You will love it. The salesman didnt listen to your needs. What you have is a fine mower you just needed the Honda mower that cost 20 bucks more.

[@tonycdot]

Sure love mine!

[@tomjoad8272]

I personally love my honda. But I have a HRA216PKA. Side discharge/mulch, no bag or self propelled. All that other stuff is superfluous for me personally. Fortunately, I don't have the issues he has.

[@1979augistine]

Let's make a video being whiny and complain about everything buy a goat and he'd complain hes eating all my grass

[@bobb8738]

Well, they will stop making any Honda mowers for the U. S. market this fall.

[@oldschoolfoil2365]

Totally agree with you my man a solid review honda needs to work it's mowers out i have the HRN latest model the plastic rim is touching the blades underneath until it finally snapped of the 1 inch of plastic edging why they needed all them holes in it is beyond comprehension all that dirt and grass build up in them is a pain in the ass to dig out. im guessing it adds to lawn suction hence it's mulching superiority. as for the motor yes it has it over briggs but screw me the deck is not designed by real mower people working at honda how many years does honda need to make the perfect mower? the handle bar looseness to the under deck could of easily been avoided if honda employed the right lawnsmen. Honda should stay with motor bikes but even susuki is killing them in design issue

[@coreyhicks2239]

Never buy Lawnmowers from Wal-Mart they're terrible at Wal-Mart lol. Lowes or Home Depot is the store to buy them from. Home Depot has the best ones that are way better lol

[@WJCTechyman]

Or better yet, buy from a dealer. You may pay more but at least you have a better unit and service behind it.

[@billychildress7251]

Why don’t you like it

[@coreyhicks2239]

Angry Grandpa destroyed his lawnmower from Wal-Mart on a video at his old Trailer awhile back that lawnmower was a POS

[@SCraig-Handsome]

And best selection, you can also get Honda from an authorized dealer, Toro, Husqvarna, Cab Cadet are also good options.... get one with a Honda engine though

[@WJCTechyman]

@@SCraig-Handsome Uhh, Husqvarna I wouldn't touch. Parts for anything Husqvarna are sometimes double or triple the price of Honda, and often crappier grade. Toro...I wouldn't really go with them either. Like most other companies, they seem to like belts for even commercial equipment. Cub Cadet makes some decent products, but for commercial use, you could pick up a Kubota or Honda for a similar price.

[@jasonlucht9221]

Some complaints are valid, but some are just nit picky. It's like when you don't like something, you then complain about after every little thing about it. And then at the end of the video, you go after foreign cars, which is kind of weird. After buying a Lexus, I'll never go back to an American car.

[@smallengines1018]

The cutting width is a 21". A Briggs would be the same size.

[@USArmy91222]

only good thing about that mower is the Honda engine, super reliable and they last forever!

[@ronniepitre21]

You should check out the new replacement model for that one. It's the HRN. Honda solved a bunch of those problems ur talking about there

[@jamescorry8556]

Instead of cleaning by hand use a pressure washer.

[@CurlyQLink]

I own two Honda lawn mowers and two Briggs & Stratton. I got the two B&S for free because the former owners did not want them. For my money, I would never buy any B&S mower.

[@ramcummins7879]

Toro super recycler , well thought out , no issues

[@Priority57]

22yrs with my super recycler and still going strong

[@luckystrikebc]

Should have bought the Honda HRX series. Everything you would have wanted.