SHOULD YOU BUY A HONDA LAWN MOWER IN 2024? (3 Things To Check)

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SHOULD YOU BUY A HONDA LAWN MOWER IN 2024? (3 Things To Check). HONDA is DONE MAKING MOWERS as of September 2023. Plus recent honda Lawnmowers were riddled with CAMSHAFT ISSUES. How do you know you're getting a GOOD ONE? In this video, I go over WHAT TO LOOK FOR so you can be CONFIDENT IN YOUR PURCHASE! I also go over the FEATURES, CONSTRUCTION, and BUILD QUALITY of this mower. Is this the BEST BUDGET LAWN MOWER? LIKE & SUBSCRIBE!!!
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[@GarageGear]

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[@mattjones1792]

Lawn boy

[@dmb3428]

I'm on mow #5 with mine purchased about a month ago, I have 1/4 acre yard that is almost golf course quality grass. This new one runs smoother than an older honda 160 powered snapper 22" I just sold. Most places are pushing electric, not for me. And yes, honda sells for good prices used.

[@GarageGear]

RIGHT ON dmb!

[@briantii]

Just grabbed one of these today to go with my 2 year old HRX217HYA. I figure alternating between the two of them should easily last the rest of my useful mowing life. Ran the HRN once I got home and actually really impressed with it. Quite the upgrade from the old HRR216 I used to have and really not that big of a step down from the HRX with the hydro. Given that everything is going to throw away battery mowers, I figure might as well grab a spare while I still could, and I have slight concerns about support of the HRX composite deck 10 years down the line. Great video!

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for the positive feedback and input Brian! 👍

[@jayay222]

Thanks very helpful! I had the Home Depot crew get a box with a green dot from the top shelf as the one on the floor didn't have any. Wasn't going to take a risk after watching this video. Only used once, but we're very happy with it so far!

[@GarageGear]

Awesome my friend! Enjoy the mow Jay!

[@josephberkeley]

I'm wearing my Garage Gear tee shirt. Mowed the lawn. Changed the oil in my new Honda HRN at 30 minutes and again at 5 hours. All good. Thanks for the videos.

[@GarageGear]

ROCK ON Joseph! You da MAN! 👍👍🤜🤛

[@mikeames1749]

Thanks for the green dot advice, just picked this mower up a week ago and it did have the dot. Do you have any advice on a wheel upgrade for this mower? A set with bearings that aren't too expensive? Just curious on that. Great channel, I watch a lot of your content.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Mike! Sounds like you’re set! I don’t have a better whee recommendation other than retreading those wheels. Appreciate the positive feedback my friend!

[@brianwintermute9551]

Have a Troy Built self propelled mower with a Honda engine. 16 years old now. Brought it out yesterday from winter storage, put in new gas, one pull and it starts. Note, have used synthetic oil since day one, change the spark plug every three years and clean and grease the axles and sharpen the blade 2x per season as I have a large yard.

[@GarageGear]

Solid plan Brian!

[@juan.rocha-gonzalez]

Hey JB thanks for all your content …it’s not only very informative but they are also fun to watch ! I just picked up a HRX217 VYAA yesterday …..your reviews were super helpful on making my decision By the way do you know anything about Honda not discontinuing the lawnmower products, they released some new videos yesterday about the line up on their KZbin channel

[@GarageGear]

We’ll have to stay tuned to see what they are going to do. I wonder if they’re changing their tune. Thanks for following along on the channel. I’m glad you find it to be useful.

[@jordanboucher5179]

Thanks for the video. I’m a new subscriber and your video came up first when looking for a new Honda lawnmower. I plan to buy the Honda HRX217K6VKAD next week, and I will inspect it properly before leaving the store. Thank you for the great videos God bless you

[@GarageGear]

Appreciate you Jordan! Thanks for being a cool fan!

[@okielawnguy]

I have also noticed that it’s difficult to bog down my Honda 216. Meanwhile I have a Toro TimeMaster that bogs down pretty easy unless I open up the side chute. It’s like Honda is the better mulching mower & Toro is best when when you let the clippings fly!

[@GarageGear]

I agree! 👍

[@HomeOrchard]

I appreciate your mention of non-ethanol fuel. I’ve been using it mixed with stabilizer for thirty years with no issues except for a recent purchase that wasn’t a Honda. I bought my HRN216 in 2020 and avoided the recall. In 2023 I bought a close out Toro Super Recycler model 21386 with the aluminum deck. From the start, I had to fix the valve cover which was leaking. The Toro can handle hills better laterally than the Honda which was the main reason for buying the Toro. However Honda build quality is light years ahead of the Toro. I just replaced the plastic carburetor on the Toro after 15 months. The main jet is super fine for meeting emissions but clogs easily. The main jet on the Honda is larger but still meets emissions while providing better fuel efficiency. The primary reason walk behind mowers, trimmers, blowers, and other small engine equipment including tillers are disappearing is due to USEPA Air Emissions Regulations that were implemented in the early 2000s. There’s a compliance schedule that manufacturers have to implement and most have already shutdown. With Home Depot having a limited supply post recall, I’m considering buying a second HRN216.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this home orchard

[@dave8115]

Would you generally recommend this over the HRX base models for a 10,000 sq foot lawn? I am struggling to decide whether the extra $250 to move to the HRX217VKA is worth it. Appreciate any insights you may have.

[@GarageGear]

Either one is good! I have the hrn and my neighbor has the hrx. You’ll get ball bearings in the wheels, a bigger engine and a better bagging system with the HRX.

[@nwestra]

Love this mower! I bought one last month for my landscape company and the thing is awesome. Also figured out that the bag is interchangeable with the HRX bag which happens to be a lot bigger than the one it comes with.

[@GarageGear]

Glad you are enjoying it! Awesome to know!

[@frankcastle5294]

Hi JB and another great vid. Having owned 2 Honda walk-behinds I can honestly say there's just something about their build quality....power...ease of maintenance....longevity....reliability that puts them ahead of everything else on the market.

[@GarageGear]

You got it John! Honda knows how to build them! 👍

[@smitastic7030]

I bought mine from home depot 2 weeks ago. As far as I know all of the honda mowers home depot is currently selling have already had the recall done. Mine had the green dot, but I also checked the new serial number and it is not part of the recall as it was already fixed. Another tip, the box will look previously opened and retaped, also the flaps will not be glued together on top as it was opened for the recall.

[@GarageGear]

Good info here smit!

[@dandennis8465]

I purchased a HRX217 17 years ago, got it professionally tuned up by the dealer at about year 10. Other than that I do yearly oil changes and sharpen the blades. My tires are getting bald and will be my next upgrade.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing! Might want to try that bike tire trick!

[@LI-FLKayakFisherman]

Dan, about $40 for OEM on Amazon just replaced mine after 20+ years

[@brentpaul6083]

The list of SN was flashed quickly in the video (awesome video BTW)...can you provide a link or copy of the total list of recalled Serial Numbers? Also, the punch mark...will it be obvious?

[@GarageGear]

Hey Brent you can pause the video to check the list. The punch mark will be visible like it was in the picture shown. Are you buying a new or used one?

[@announcer9]

Great video! I have this exact mower that’s about 2yrs old and is hard to start. Anyways to get it checked?

[@GarageGear]

I’d get it into a shop to have it checked out!

[@pepperman34]

Just picked an HRX217HYA from HD yesterday in my area , HD website has little over 1400 in stock, last call to great mower . Memorial Day sale plus my veteran discount got a great deal . Thanks HD for honoring veterans year round !

[@GarageGear]

Awesome pepperman! Thanks for sharing!

[@robv.7324]

I went out and bought the hrx 217 a few weeks ago. My last honda broke because I didn't catch the oil leak and it ate itself. Regardless, I asked the guy at HD what that green dot was for and he didn't know. I figured it was because they had checked it for cam shift issues! Home depot had a BUTT TON of the 216s for sale. Glad I got it.

[@GarageGear]

Glad you did too, my friend! That’s awesome!

[@deanmarkoshan2129]

I have a 36 year old Honda HR194 lawnmower that still works like a tank. Aluminum deck. Only problem is it only cuts to a height of 3 inches. Is there a way to change tires to increase the cutting height to 4 inches? My bluegrass would like it.

[@GarageGear]

If it has a drive system probably no. But if it doesn’t then perhaps you could find some wheels that would fit

[@kenburdier5884]

Just purchased this lawn mower after watching all of your videos regarding this mower. Big question I’m happy so far and noticed odd scratch marks on the engine casing? Is this normal someone called it casting flash? Is it normal on a new mower to see this?

[@GarageGear]

I’ve seen it before. It’s fine.

[@octane2099]

OMG I ran outside to check out the box it didn't have the green sticker but then I looked at the other side it was there I got lucky. I got mine today some one stole my other one it was also a Honda but a 8 year old one. It looks nice all blacked out.

[@GarageGear]

Whoa someone stole your mower?

[@craigw.scribner6490]

Thanks! i have a Toro mower with a Honda mower but it's time to replace it with a Honda HRN216 while they're still available.

[@GarageGear]

Go for it! 👍

[@danielfitzgerald4089]

What do you think about stepping up to the entry level HRX model over the entry level HRN model? I have a large yard and live 5000 ft. My current Honda is about 18 years old and is about warn out and this model doesn't have enough power in my opinion. Thank You

[@GarageGear]

Great mower that you can’t go wrong with! 👍

[@guppygb6078]

I just ordered the HRX217HYA. What is your opinion on using synthetic oil vs the OEM Honda oil? I've also heard some people run conventional oil to break in the engine then switch to synthetic.

[@GarageGear]

After discussing this with mechanics they all agreed synthetic is the way to go! I usually use the oil they give you for the break in then switch to synthetic! 👍

[@AlwaysBored1]

Love my HRN216. On year 4 now. I perform all the usual seasonal maintenance and, this year, replaced the rear wheels.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing my friend

[@charley95sheridan44]

Have a 1/4 acre yard with a 10 yr. old HRX 217 still going strong. Bought a new HRX in December still new in the box that was recalled, not ready for battery yet.

[@GarageGear]

Smart move!

[@tjsound1258]

No green dot. No punched hole. I entered the serial number on Honda's "Recall and Update" web-page. When I hit submit, it reads: "There are currently no active recalls for your Power Equipment product." Please advise. BTW, thank you for your vids. I broke it in per your recommendations.

[@tjsound1258]

F/up: I called Honda with my SN. She entered into her database, then assured me my lawnmower was NOT included in the recall. She said this particular recall is very SN specific.

[@GarageGear]

Sounds like you’re good to go! Are you having issues with yours?

[@Booth_]

Just bought mine this weekend. I did the oil change after 30 minutes of run time. My goodness you were not kidding about the color change after thirty minutes and the amount of particulates floating in the oil. I was totally shocked. Glad I watch your video before purchasing. Had to part ways with my John Deere JX75 which was tough, but I am excited for the Honda! Thanks man for all of your useful advice in the garage.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Booth! Glad you’re excited for you new Honda! What as the story with your jx75?

[@Booth_]

@@GarageGear loved the mower. I wanted a stripe kit and they don’t seem to make them for John Deeres and I’m not very innovative haha. I know Big League Lawns makes them for the Hondas. Bottom line is I’m a sucker for some stripes.

[@GarageGear]

@@Booth_ grab a kit and go to town!

[@crobro]

I am sort of considering purchasing this mower and I was curious if you have experienced any of the issues I have seen on the web related to the self-propel caused by (wet) grass and twigs getting stuck in the belt area? You can see the "exposed" area that causes this issue at 5:21.

[@GarageGear]

Hey cro! None whatsoever! I don’t have sticks and twigs all over my yard. Those that may may have issues but I don’t because I keep my yard tidy. I have never had an issue with grass interfering with the belt either. I also clean my mower deck about 3 times per year.

[@crobro]

I’m kinda deciding between the Honda and a Toro 21564 I have. I have a yard with little nooks and crannies and the Personal Pace can be finicky.

[@davva360]

I thought they had stopped making them altogether. I have one that's about 14 years old but the deck is now rusted to the point I had to take cardboard to cover the holes so I wasn't getting stuff flying in my face. Now im torn. I want a new one but am planning a move to a property that will be over an acre and I don't want to push mow so much. I really probably need a ride on mower then but I cant really use one at my current property. There are just too many tight spaces.

[@GarageGear]

Hondas are still around for a short time. They are selling off last years stock.

[@tipsyrippers]

I was wondering if this mower would be suitable for me. I use a push mower about 10-30 minutes each mow. As I have a rider. I was looking for quality and longevity so it’s either this mower or the next one up from this one ?? What do you recommend. Thanks ! Awesome videos by the way !

[@GarageGear]

Hey rippers if you are using it around trees I would probably recommend the HRX with better wheels and bearings these wheels are all plastic. 👍

[@tipsyrippers]

@@GarageGear thanks for replying !! I was also wondering if you could put hrx wheels on an hrn model ?

[@GarageGear]

@@tipsyrippers I don’t believe so

[@ExtremDIY]

I had one and really liked it but Honda couldn't make it to stand up like most new mowers. Cut quality is fantastic and love the mulch lever. I cant stand adding a mulch plug. I bought a Toro Recycler and works great and storage is a plus for me but I do miss the throttle option which is my favorite.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing DIY

[@pokedope534]

Just grabbed my first honda mower today, this exact model at hoke depot $550 but my box had a blue sticker on it. Did they color coordinate anything determining certain things? Thanks!

[@GarageGear]

As far as I know any sticker on there on that place in any color means the repair had been completed.

[@Rebel9668]

Never had a push mower with overhead valves. Always just had the old-fashioned flat head-side valve engines. How often do you need to reset the valve lash on one of those things? I ask this because I thought my 14 year old rider bit the dust the other day. Went to start it and it wouldn't crank. Took out the spark plug and it spun freely enough. Had to get out my feeler gauges and re-set the valve lash, .004 on the intake valve and .006 on the exhaust. New valve cover gasket and she fired right back up like new! On a side note, I also added "poor man's power steering" by adding a set of needle bearings to the steering spindles. I tried replacing the front wheel bushings with bearings, but the bearings wouldn't fit, so have a slightly larger set ordered.

[@GarageGear]

Not exactly sure rebel! Thanks for sharing my friend!

[@shortyorc121]

Along time. My briggs 725exi has over 800 hours on it and I haven't adjusted the valves yet. So i would say valve adjustment shouldn't really be an issue specially for a Honda engines which are known for having well into the 1000s of hours of run time.

[@redghostsrt]

Yesterday I bought the HRX at Home Depot for the price of the HRN model they made a mistake on the pricing at the shelf and they had to bite the bullet I love these kind of deals 😅

[@GarageGear]

SCORE! Sweet deal! 👍

[@MatthewSobotka]

I actually just bought that mower last week. I came from a Ryobi electric mower. There are a lot of things different on it overall it isn’t improvement, except then still not used to the system as the lawnmower moves too fast

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing Matthew! Enjoy the mow!

[@alanbiker5838]

I just bought an HRN216VKAA a few days ago from an equipment dealer. They installed the fix for the started before I picked it up. Traded my old Honda push mower for this one that has the benefit of self power drive, and it's great, just like my "old" one.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing Alan

[@landcruiser7936]

Just bought one. Had the green dot and cuts beautifully. Only thing I don't like is the self propelled hand controls. I am sure I'll get used to it but still very happy with the purchase.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome enjoy the mow land cruiser

[@Tsnor150]

try using your palm instead of your thumb on the hand controls. you may like it better

[@GarageGear]

@@Tsnor150 good tip!

[@jacobmichel-iy5ie]

Thank you we just bought a brand new HRN today. Had the green sticker on the box per your advice. I just finished cutting the lawn. Worked great! 1st pull start. Glad I did not purchase the Toro. Used the mulch mode. No clumps or trash left behind. Honda rules!

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Jacob! Enjoy the mow bud!

[@d_dizzie_druck5753]

Also love the fact you have stated it was strickter enviromental standards that they decided to stop production in North America. I never did buy into the reason they gave last year of "We @ Honda want to focus more on our utv, atv, & dirt bike production in North America." Like how they're still building snow blowers too.

[@GarageGear]

Yep! Thanks for watching!

[@cm.5023]

That may have been a tiny part but i think a larger part was battery powered mowers.

[@jaybooth4815]

Great video JB! Also a really nice mower. I’m still on the fence about getting the HRX217. I don’t need it but my old one, that my son has, is awesome. I might get it for an investment…haha! What’s up for the weekend? Cheers my friend!

[@GarageGear]

Not a bad plan to grab one Jay! Thanks my friend! Was going to hit up antique world this morning but then the rain hit and probably scared all the vendors away. Meantime got some work to do around here. How about you? Hanging with the grandkids?

[@jaybooth4815]

⁠Not today JB, they have a party to attend to. I did have them yesterday! Enjoy the weekend bud!

[@GarageGear]

@@jaybooth4815 you too Jay!

[@jeffreycaban5107]

If I was in the Market for a new Mower I wouldn't hesitate to purchase a Honda. I'd probably opt for a HRC model though.

[@GarageGear]

Can’t beat em Jeffrey! Thanks for watching my friend!

[@lanceb940]

Hrc 216 is the ultimate Honda mower.

[@tomjoad8272]

Buying one tomorrow. It's the last one my dealer has in stock.​@lanceb940

[@jeffreycaban5107]

@@tomjoad8272 You Luck Dog you.

[@guitarman3968]

I was a huge Honda fan until they switched to the dual blade system. Now I’m no longer a Honda customer.

[@mattb9664]

Yes. There will be some type of random quality issue like the transmission fluid issue on mine, but once it's fixed- it'll be last for however long you take care of it.

[@GarageGear]

Oh yeah! That’s the truth!

[@sullybiker6520]

I got one, checked the box as per your video. It was the only mower I could find that really felt well-built and really looked quality. It's been running like a champ and cuts beautifully.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome! That’s great to hear!

[@williswoody2691]

I’m been going back and front between buying this or a 22 inch toro recycler. I’ve read a few reviews on this Honda stating that it was leaking oil after one use just wondering your thoughts on this.

[@GarageGear]

No issues with mine ever. Could have been a fluke case. Don’t hear about this being a common issue

[@johnnytopside3702]

Yo Garage Gear I bought a HRX yesterday & did the whole bottle pour in thing & when I checked the oil level after it was above the mushroom top thing on the dipstick I don’t see any writing that says full on it am I supposed to get it in between the lil xs at the bottom? Been a pain trying to slowly pump out a lil at a time.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Johnny not exactly sure what the story is with your mower if you just bought it but I would dump out all the oil and refill it to the correct level with fresh oil.

[@johnnytopside3702]

@@GarageGear yeah I bought it new at HD idk why so much oil was still in it. Am I aiming for in between the cross X’s at the bottom of the dipstick for the oil level?

[@GarageGear]

@@johnnytopside3702 yep you got it! When you put the dip stick in just rest it on the top. Don’t thread it down. Rest it, pull it out and check your level. That’s how to check it on a Honda mower nowadays.

[@lukematei8364]

Hey mate im a gardening contractor over in Australia. I have that exact mower. Just did a service on it a few hours ago. Been using it for 2 years. I still really like it. It is made in USA so unsure why it it wont be sold anymore to americans

[@GarageGear]

Hey Luke! I assume it’s because there is a big push to go all battery here. Terrible idea. Thanks for sharing bud!

[@WJCTechyman]

@@GarageGear Yeah, swapping something that affects the climate of the planet over something that could be more hazardous in the short term. Lithium based batteries contain a number of toxic substances and aren't really all that recyclable. At least at the end of life an internal combustion engine is actually recyclable. Some will claim that the batteries are recyclable but wish-cycling is a little different than reality. Most of the precious metals in these batteries come out as something called "black mass," something that's potentially more harmful in the short term than greenhouse gas emissions as well as being more potentially harmful overall than spent nuclear fuel bundles. I just don't think trying to separate the precious and heavy metals in black mass would be financially feasible.

[@colfergusson4242]

Had my HRN216 for 3yrs great power n speed cuts great, only issue is catching bag, the top section it lets all the fine dust ect blow through to your face breathing it in, great mower but if I had known this fault I would have bought something different, my last Honda engine mountfeild mower was 26yrs when it gave up never an issue

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this info my friend

[@CraigGa]

So what would be your recommendation on the best mulching self propelled push mower? Mainly focusing on mulching capability, but overall capability/ratings second

[@GarageGear]

For the best store bought mower I would get a Honda. Either hrn or HRX. Got a video coming out on this this weekend

[@CraigGa]

@@GarageGear Looking forward to it! Thanks for the reply! Awesome video content btw

[@GarageGear]

@@CraigGa appreciate you Craig

[@user-ip2vx2pu2b]

I just bought that same mower!! I put full synthetic oil after the bottle it came wth. 5w30 Royal Purple. I love purple oil 😊

[@GarageGear]

Awesome! Good stuff. Thanks for watching.

[@blackhawks1870]

What gas you put?

[@XxTommyboy890Xx]

Just bought mine today and mowed about .7 acres in an hour and 15 minutes which is much faster than my rider so far I love it. I was actually super surprised at how quite it is for a gas mower as well.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Tommy! That’s good amount of mowing!

[@superdave336]

I've been thinking about purchasing one but Chickanic did a video 1 yr ago with all the issues from Honda. Some of the issues are the open deck and the drive system and the drive cable. Plus I have some concerns on the plastic deck for the HRX models. I have a lot of rocks and sticks and don't want a cracked deck. I'm undecided, might just get the Toro Super Recycler. I really like the Honda's though.

[@GarageGear]

Hey super Dave, no mower is perfect and each one has their own flaws. Super recyclers have issues backing up. I did a video on that last summer. Are you mowing a rough pasture or something that has all those rocks and sticks?

[@superdave336]

@@GarageGear Not a pasture but my yard, ditch and garden areas. They aren’t smooth pretty grass areas. I have woods surrounding everything and trees in the yard. Lots of gum balls, sticks and rocks.

[@superdave336]

@@GarageGear I don’t even really want a self propelled mower but all the better ones have drives.

[@superdave336]

@@GarageGear If I was to get a Honda would you recommend the steel deck or NeXite?

[@ChicagoSirens]

Considering upgrading my John Deere JA65 to a Honda HRX217. Only issue I’m worried about is poor suction on it. Any opinions? The JA65 is MINT so I don’t know if I’d be able to let it go anyways.

[@GarageGear]

Both of those mowers are great. The Honda does a good job cutting. Wouldn’t be disappointed with it!

[@ChicagoSirens]

@@GarageGearEnded up picking the Honda up. I am not disappointed!! Also someone is selling a mint John Deere 14SB, thinking of getting it since the Kawi is a better engine than the Briggs Quantum if I understood correctly.

[@GarageGear]

@@ChicagoSirens yep! Go for it!!!

[@lyonsdavid]

Does it come with a rear deflector for bagless discharge?

[@GarageGear]

Hey David! No it doesn’t. It just shoots it straight down! Thanks for watching

[@rashadabdullah9769]

Im looking at buying a horizontal shaft honda engine for a future project. Are any of them affected by any issues?

[@GarageGear]

Nope only the engines mentioned in this video were affected

[@menswearhous]

Just got one the other day, says manufacture date on the engine was 2022. You think I should return it for a newer one?

[@GarageGear]

If it’s running fine, You’re good.

[@jordancombs2070]

any issues with string being hard to pull? i bought one last week and changed oil after 30 mins and abo it half way through mowing i shut it off and when i went to start it back the string was getting really hard to pull, any idea what that could be?

[@GarageGear]

That’s the cam shaft issue. Take it in to the dealer or wherever you got it

[@jordancombs2070]

Thanks! I waited and found one in stock at home depot just so i could make sure i had the green sticker and everything

[@GarageGear]

@@jordancombs2070 awesome! Glad you Knabbed one!

[@deviouslaw]

I picked up an HRN216 for I want to say $230 a few years ago, lightly used. It has been flawless and even though I have since picked up a riding mower I still enjoy mowing with my Honda as well if the weather is nice.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing. I’m glad you’re enjoying the mow with the Honda. It’s a great machine.

[@EPHONIC]

Great review. Love the info and pacing. Question: How do the wheels compare to say other mowers? Do these have ball bearings?

[@GarageGear]

Hey EP! Appreciate the feedback. these wheels are pretty basic. No bearings inside. If you want better wheels you’ll have to step up the HRX! Thanks for watching

[@EPHONIC]

@@GarageGearThanks! Love the channel and subscribed. Watched your other video comparing the HRN and HRX and see the difference now. I may splurge on a HRX for a bit more of the features. Want to get mine soon before they sell out in North America. Thanks so much! Love the deck jokes. 😂

[@GarageGear]

@@EPHONIC thanks for being a cool fan ephonic! Haha gotta keep it real around here! 👍

[@jp-us9rq]

I halp out my buddy cut some grasses I had tried this mower the motor is great it cuts nice but I just don't like how the self propelled is I like the handle u just hold back

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing jp

[@Jim-ut1bz]

I just bought one and it looks like there are cracks on the side of the block between oil filler and the muffler. Is this normal from maybe casting?

[@GarageGear]

I have seen that before. It’s normal. As long as you don’t see any leaks you are good.

[@Jim-ut1bz]

Thanks!

[@Silverface1987]

I have 2 Honda mowers,HRN216(31 years old) and I loved it so much I purchased a new electric ⚡️ start HRX217. Didn’t need the new one,I just wanted an electric start (getting older and enjoying toys) the 30 year old one gave me ZERO problems,so I wanted to keep it in the family,and gave it to my son in law. Self-propelled works GREAT. 30 year old dude gets oil,air filters and spark plugs,AND SHARP BLADES… BOTH are plastic deck models. Hey JB 👍🏼

[@GarageGear]

ROCK ON SILVER! Those old Hondas are awesome!

[@chatrkat]

A can completely understand and agree. The older Honda’s I own are so well built they could easily outlast me.

[@brianwa1982]

The HRX217 is still better than that. You have adjustable speed control and an actual engine throttle so you can let the engine idle while you change the bag. Years ago, throttles were standard on mowers. Now you just pull and it revs up to high speed already and that just can't be good on the engine, especially each time you have to stop the engine to change the mower bag. Another reason I love the HRX217 because of that blade stop feature so you only have to start your mower once and get your whole lawn mowed without ever having to stop the engine to empty the bag or to stop mowing to move something out of the way without the engine stopping.

[@chatrkat]

You’re preaching to a choir member😂. I’m the owner of five older Honda GX engine powered self-propelled walk behind Honda mowers, the oldest 3 being 35 years give or take. The most recent was the only one I purchased new back in the 90’s and uses a small hydrostatic transmission. I paid an insane amount for that mower 25 years ago, compared to what the average homeowner spends for a 20” mower. In spite of the age, all 5 operate exactly as they should, but also have been properly cared for and stored inside. All five still have original engines and original blade clutches. The Honda mowers all cut beautifully, mulch very well and have a good solid “feel”. I doubt I’d ever use another brand walk behind.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome chatrkat thanks for sharing this with the community

[@MikeMascioli-yf3wc]

What do you think about the toro super recycler with the Honda engine

[@GarageGear]

Good mowers. Just don’t make them like that anymore.

[@MidwestLawnMan]

Torn between getting this same honda model or a Toro Super Recycler… which do you recommend that has a better cut quality, more comfortable, and just better overall?

[@GarageGear]

Go with the Honda!

[@MidwestLawnMan]

@@GarageGear that’s what I started leaning towards.. Do you know if the warranties are still good on the unused models still in stock even though they stopped making them last year? There’s a few still here at my local HD

[@GarageGear]

@@MidwestLawnMan from what I know they still have to honor their warranty!

[@scottpolenske9224]

What do you think about this mower compared to the Toro super recycler? The super recycler, to me seems like the deck would get excessive build up of grass with the baffles or whatever they call them under it. And now with them being all briggs engines...

[@GarageGear]

Hey Scott did you watch this video? HONDA HRX217VKA VS TORO SUPER RECYCLER 21564 - WHICH MOWER IS BEST? kzbin.info/www/bejne/boiqhGR5aMSdns0 It has the HRX offers a decent comparison.

[@scottpolenske9224]

@@GarageGear yes I did. I was curious about the HRN. My brother has the hrx216 170, and neighbor has the hrx 217 190. I don't know anyone with the TORO SR. I have a toro recycler 22 with a 163

[@GarageGear]

@@scottpolenske9224 I would go with the Honda. Super recyclers have issues backing up!

[@cobra-he9xj]

I just had HD deliver one to me last week (none were in stock locally). Unfortunately the SN is in the range of the recall. Mine doesn't have a green sticker. It has a blue sticker. 🤔 I haven't opened it up to check for the "dimple", because I might just return it if it's part of the recall. I can't seem to find any mention online of a blue sticker being OK.

[@smitastic7030]

I bought mine from home depot 2 weeks ago. As far as I know all of the honda mowers home depot is currently selling have already had the recall done. Mine had the green dot, but I also checked the new serial number and it is not part of the recall as it was already fixed. Another tip, the box will look previously opened and retaped, also the flaps will not be glued together on top as it was opened for the recall.

[@cobra-he9xj]

@@smitastic7030 That's interesting. Thanks for that feedback. There was only one serial number on mine (no "new" serial number) and it was definitely part of the recall. I did expect the box to have been opened and reused, but there was no sign of that. I tried to get some more information on Honda's website but finally gave up. Seems to me that considering Honda is no longer in this business that they are just dumping final stock. The thought also hit me that there's no motivation for Honda to rework an engine with the same care as originally building it. I returned the Honda today as a result. Picked up a new Toro which I suppose I should have in the first place.

[@GarageGear]

Not sure of any info on the blue dots.

[@ebaysnipa]

Hi did Honda address the issue with the wheels locking up when pulling backwards, is it the same system (smart drive) on these new models? Thanks

[@GarageGear]

Hey eBay! It is a smart drive system on the hrn. Mine has no issues so I assume they did

[@ebaysnipa]

@@GarageGear Went through all Home Depot’s reviews on this lawnmower and unfortunately it looks like this is an issue for some customers still 👎🏽

[@cale9987]

Can you manual push this mower/disengage the self-drive?

[@GarageGear]

Hey cale! You don’t have to use the drive system if you don’t want to. This mower is still relatively easy to push!

[@tinfairfax]

Hì JB. Just saw your video and went out and get the mentioned Honda at home depot. Upon taking it out of the box and did overall inspection, I found several hairline cracks at the right side of the engine wall (where the oil dip stick located), And look like it's been welded in some way. Compared to the other side of the engine (left) is smooth and no hair line cracks. Since it's passed QC from Honda, should I be concerned and just go ahead and returned to make sure. I'm a 61 years old guy and it's not convenient to pack or unpack the mower from the box and lift it. It's over a100lb box. Would like to hear your advice. Thanks

[@GarageGear]

Hey tin not to worry. Those lines are from the mold they were made in. See them on lots of Hondas. You’re all good with that mower!

[@tinfairfax]

Thanks JB. That's a comfort to hear, not to worry about hair line cracks. That would save me a trip returning to Home Depot. This is my first Honda mower. Will start using and test out the mower tomorrow

[@GarageGear]

@@tinfairfax go for it! 👍

[@bassfever4705]

Well I just went to home depot today. They had one left, but the box didn't have the green dot. I asked an associate but he had no clue. Maybe I have to go to a different home depot? Do all the stores put that sticker on the boxes?

[@GarageGear]

It’s not the store putting the stickers on. It’s Honda. I would go to another store!👍

[@dfields9511]

Cool, I have never owned a Honda , but a few have crossed my path when I picked a few up over the years from the trash and fixed and resold .

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing d

[@Carlos.Rivera]

As Home owner, this mower is no brainer. Price can be scared but dont worry, you will get "profit" for a while because you are doing the work. I recommend the bicycle thread for better user experience, doing work like walking on park. Maintenance is easy, a basic tool kit is all you need.

[@GarageGear]

Good tips. Thanks for sharing!

[@Canyon04]

I love mine I bought but, I did have an issue with the bag falling off. Hondas customer service needs to be retrained on how to use there crm tool. Shouldn’t take multiple weeks to get an answer on something

[@GarageGear]

I hear ya canton but at least they are better than some cheap Chinese companies that don’t get back to you at all.

[@gneesh14]

Have an older HRR216, it’s a great mower that hasn’t given me any issues for years. Use my timemaster regularly now, but I won’t be getting right of the Honda anytime soon

[@GarageGear]

Hold onto that Honda!

[@AahronDaniel-tk4ts]

I purchased my first home a couple of days ago. Less than 4000 sf of cutting yard, I can't wait to go buy this mower. They are starting to disappear from the shelves, but I will travel to get one. Hopefully by the end of the month I will be starting to mow.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome! Go for it, my friend! You won’t be disappointed

[@michaeldavis6550]

Did you get your mower, I returned a mower today , bought this one myself.

[@AahronDaniel-tk4ts]

@@michaeldavis6550 not yet, we move in Wednesday. The yard is getting LONG. First cut is going to be fun.

[@michaeldavis6550]

@AahronDaniel-tk4ts just be careful about stock. They had 50 left at my store & when I got there to get one they were down to 10 left & it was litterly 2hrs they went from 50 to 10 left. Their selling pretty fast & leftover stock Will be gone In no time. Congratulations on your new home & may God Bless you & your family with many Happy Years Together.

[@AahronDaniel-tk4ts]

@michaeldavis6550 thanks for the heads up. I will purchase today! Blessings to you as well.

[@mikegrier2829]

Bought my Honda HR214 in 1986. Replaced one cable and one wheel so far. Nothing else other than air filter, oil and spark plug. Cranks on the first pull except for the first start of the season, then it takes 3 or 4 tries. 😂

[@GarageGear]

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing my friend! Enjoy the mow this season.

[@ezeNdog]

So I thought Honda was discontinuing it's gas push mowers and they actually did a stop sale last September. R they still producing them?

[@GarageGear]

They stopped making them last September and are selling off any remaining repaired mowers after their stop sale last year.

[@TommyG11814]

I've only had 2 mowers since I bought my home 41 years ago and they were both Toro, nothing else.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing

[@ccmotorshed]

In Australia you can still get Honda mowers and I might get a wb20 and it has a 163cc gx160 I love Honda it has been my dream to get a new gx engine I can’t lie

[@GarageGear]

Awesome! Go get it!

[@ccmotorshed]

@@GarageGear i have a pond with 100000 gallons and I need to pump it to get rid of reed’s

[@johndenver8574]

My lawn care business uses 90% honda commercial equipment. Here are my reasons why. 1) Quality in the commercial honda segment 2) longevity-lasts a really really really long time 3) maintenance is very very simple 4) built like a tank 5) no need to change batteries every 20-40 mins. Just fill with gas once and I'm good to go 6) much less risk of fire due to overheading which is batteries number 1 weakness heat

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this! Would love to know how many of these units are spontaneously combusting in peoples garages. Hearing crazy things!

[@johndenver8574]

​@GarageGear their was thee battery fire at thee Kentucky lawn equipment expo. It happened on a dewalt battery powered zero turn. If your looking for the video just type in battery powered zero turn fire at lawn expo. Should pop up. It takes at least 20x more water to put out a battery powered lawn mower fire then a convenient engine fire.

[@GarageGear]

@@johndenver8574 heard about this! Crazy they had to bury it to put it out!

[@johndenver8574]

​@GarageGear that's because when a battery burns it burns extremely hot. The best way unfortunately to put a battery fire out is dirt. Wipes out oxygen.

[@jasonkehr3727]

Imagine saying Honda mowers suck and outing yourself to everyone in the room you've never used one. Good vid. I use an HRX217 myself for my lawn care business and it's been absolute workhorse for 5 years with no signs of stopping, and we're talking 30+ hours of mowing per week during the Spring, Summer, and Fall.

[@GarageGear]

That’s awesome! Thanks for sharing! Many more years to come

[@appleztooranges]

I regret buying my 2022 Honda hrx217hya for the following reason: 1) my Honda hrr216vka I got in 2013 was fine. Should have kept it. 2) starting issue with mine no matter what. I changed the thermowax, changed gas and change spark. Doesn’t matter. Honda dealer said this is normal. Said if temperatures under 70 degrees it will not start first or second pull on these new Hondas. If it’s above it should. I can attest to this. Government regulation did something here as it is my first Honda power equipment that does not start first pull!

[@czechmate6916]

One of my Honda mowers the automatic choke sticks periodically and won’t start until I unstick it. I wonder if that is the reason for your problem.

[@appleztooranges]

@@czechmate6916 is it the thermowax?

[@czechmate6916]

@@appleztooranges I’m not familiar with that term but this mower is probably about ten years old. When it happens I remove the air filter and use a stick to push the butterfly on the choke to unstick it and it will start right up.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this info

[@brandongallahan5537]

I was stuck between the super recycler and the hrx. Went with the hrx Honda. So far so good 🤞been really happy with it

[@GarageGear]

Awesome mower, my friend!

[@lebowski137]

Latest batches of the online special price from home depot on the HRX217 w/ select drive have been getting lots of negative reviews over the past several months. HD keeps removing the bad reviews with each batch they "fix". Problems include all oil leaking out, seized engines, rotostop problems, unable to start, etc. Why does buying a decent mower have to be so difficult. Hate to say it but now im actually considering the nightmare 1/2 price TIMEMASTER 30 and upgrading and fixing its problems. This is ridiculous

[@lebowski137]

Wish I could buy a replacement transmission for the Ariens mower that allows you to pull it back properly

[@GarageGear]

You may want to consider buying a commercial walk behind lawn mower if you’re willing to spend more. They’ll last a lot longer and are better built. 👍

[@mrpickle23]

cant even find them in stores any more

[@GarageGear]

We can find them in our area in western New York. Expand the search boundary perhaps? Hopefully you can find one!

[@czechmate6916]

I have three Honda mowers and an old Sears mower with a Honda engine on it and I haven’t had any problems with any of them. They will start first or second pull every time.

[@GarageGear]

Keep them as long as you can, my friend!

[@LouieCastro3]

I garbage picked a Honda around the corner with the plastic deck its been our only push mower and doesn't ever fail to start first or second pull. I don't even maintain it lol.

[@GarageGear]

Wow! They built them to last

[@hammer3921]

Why not mention that some models of this mower don’t have the punch mark or green dot but are not included in the recall? My serial number starts with MANA. Very confusing.

[@GarageGear]

These are the only models affected

[@Bostonharborwater]

Im not a crazy electric powered save the world guy , my Ariens snowblower could never be replaced by electric but I’m sold on the electric mowers if you have a smaller yard. One of the best tools I’ve bought. Greenworks 80volt. It’s Awsome. . That being said. If you have something bigger and need more range. Can’t beat a Honda.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this my friend

[@thomasdowneyjr.4162]

I have a good old HRX 217 got used just tuned it up runs great starting to see the electric junk more in stores the ice mowers...

[@GarageGear]

I see a lot of people with buyers remorse selling their electric junk on Craigslist and marketplace lol! Thanks for watching

[@timpmuldoon736]

Hard to beat Honda ..! I was 😤 to here 🇺🇸Gov & EPA scared Honda from producing gas mower .. My Husqvarna Mower has Honda GVC 160 powering it Great Engine trouble free with proper care..! Just ordered some spare parts to Keep it going strong 🤞🏻

[@GarageGear]

ROCK ON Tim! Thanks for watching

[@dalebroomer6445]

Just so its clear, my understanding is they will stop US production, but still make them overseas. If this is correct will they continue to sell the overseas models in North America?

[@GarageGear]

My understanding is that will not. They are off the rest of what is in stock. That may change, but I don’t know.

[@Coltron_Actual]

My 2022 HRX (bought September of 2022) is sitting at one of my nearby remaining dealers because it started blowing blue smoke after the cam shaft recall repair. Mulch door has never fully sealed from day one. I personally wouldn’t buy one. Found a 1999 JX75 on marketplace to hold me over while my dealer fights with Honda to get my machine warranted.

[@GarageGear]

Great JD you got there! 👍

[@Coltron_Actual]

@@GarageGear watched everything you've produced on it before I made the leap. Thanks for those videos. Hoping to have my Honda back soon, I'm likely keeping both.

[@GarageGear]

@@Coltron_Actual appreciate you being a cool fan! ROCK ON my friend!

[@Coltron_Actual]

@@GarageGear update on my Honda this morning from the dealer. Cylinder is scored, oil is bypassing the rings all the time now. Dealer is still fighting Honda to get it warrantied. Oil was changed three weeks ago though not really needed (It was changed when the recall repair was made in January). Oil level checked every use. Fuel shut off after every mow.

[@GarageGear]

@@Coltron_Actual sounds like you’ll be using that John Deere for a bit longer I guess

[@jordanboucher5179]

Just bought my HRX last Thursday. Thanks for all the information and detailed reviews about this Mower Love the videos! Keep them coming !!

[@GarageGear]

You got it Jordan! Congrats on the mower!

[@Outdoorpower-equipment]

What year is a honda hrn216vka

[@GarageGear]

It’s a 2023

[@mikehrdlicka8635]

You were pushing it around on park pad the bag was not puffed out. On mulch?

[@GarageGear]

Yep she was in mulch mode!

[@HorrorBigGameRR]

Nice to know that they actually check the mowers for cam issues, and putting on the sticker to let you know.

[@GarageGear]

Yeah that is helpful