I Hate My Job but Want To Clean Up My Debt Mess

[@anitaclue9868]

Those that peruse nursing because of $$ rarely make it long term. It really takes a servants heart for truly serving others. God bless all our under-appreciated over scheduled nurses. ❤❤

[@deirdrekiely6187]

*pursue

[@AlexPrime86]

My baby was in the NICU for weeks, those nurses are heroes

[@AudreyPerry]

Same. I have so much respect for NICU nurses

[@pnwsaylorcolumbia8572]

Do they allow volunteers to come rock babies?

[@edjohn4590]

This is the 3rd time I’m doing Dave’s baby steps… I thought it would be easy getting rid of bad habits and behaviour but it was not.. I stayed on track and then I would get sloppy and lazy and go back into debt… But I think this time I have it… been at it for 2 years now and by April 2025 I will be debt free once and for all!!!!! And I’m never going back.. it’s been damn hard… but I’m sick and tired of being sick and tired!!

[@nosip9950]

I’m also sick and tired!!

[@Johanneslol11]

It’s a mindset change for sure. I still have studentloans that I am paying off. I have been paying that off and it is very difficult but after this is over I can finally look for a house and so

[@jenjeni8323]

I don't know you. But well done am proud of you. Keep on going 🎉

[@acd1168]

It’s hard to change old habits. Be gentle with yourself and congratulations

[@ilotefft2526]

Can’t wait to hear your debt-free scream in several months!🎉

[@bigcahuna42366]

Nursing is very tough. My mom was an RN at a hospital for 34 years. It's not for the faint of heart.

[@lisab2303]

Nursing is tough. I have been a registered nurse for 27 years and worked in various specialties including hospital nursing. Dave is so right it can be at times very stressful. Like he said it is hard on your back and feet. I suffer from low back pain and have had several bouts of plantar fasciitis through the years. She should definitely volunteer and see if she really likes the field before she takes on any more student loan debt.

[@S3V3N17]

People see thesw feild and think it easy no thr person making it look easy there a difference.

[@Primitive_Code]

​@S3V3N17Your grammar 🙄🙄

[@strangeroamer3219]

That's not what I've been led to believe. During Covid the nurses were making tik tok videos dancing. They didn't look overworked or stressed to me.

[@superblump87]

​@@strangeroamer3219oh wow. They were dancing for 20 seconds?

[@Love_cats584]

She does need to volunteer first before becoming a nurse because it’s totally different from the outside looking in than you think

[@garrett21]

If you love kids/babies the NICU is probably the worst possible place to be. The number dead babies you’ll see will haunt you forever along with the feeling that you played a part in it happening.

[@thejacksontwosome]

You live in the same town as me. Go to St. Mary’s School of Nursing. Work at St. Mary’s hospital as a tech and agree to work for them for five years as a nurse, and they’ll pay for your degree.

[@TheEGA4421]

Some schools across the country do that. She could also start working as an cna.

[@Lealelan]

GREAT idea!!!

[@chelseaw9999]

RN here. If you’re interested in breaking into healthcare while pursuing something like nursing, consider being a PCT/CNA (patient care tech). Usually work 3 x 12 hour shifts. Worked with plenty of people that pick up overtime or work 2 full-time positions to get ahead.

[@JulyFourth1776]

I never got into healthcare because of the stress, expense, and the horrible system. I'm much happier and satisfied with my current business and travel the world while getting paid.

[@faizanalvi3932]

Youre 100pc right with the CNA its a great bridge to get money easy to gauge whether you want to do it long term aswell

[@Eric_Bassett]

Yes. Much more realistic than walking in and volunteering to rock babies LOL. This man knows ZERO about the medical world. Being a PCT or CNA is a great idea for her!

[@saltandpepper1963]

Been a RN in hospital for many years. The money and Time off/ schedule is difficult to beat, but you won't like it. Just being honest, most nurses I know dream of doing something else. The Golden handcuffs keep us in the field. Think Long and hard before taking that leap. Not saying there aren't people who like it though.

[@workinonit9562]

My son has a bachelors degree in nursing, worked about 8 years and got maxed out. He started his own Airbnb business and manages others Airbnb's and is loving it.

[@esmyval8948]

🎉

[@roolyfe]

Own a business 👨🏿‍💼

[@sc00b3rt]

I dont think most people like their jobs. They are more of a necessity to pay the bills. We can't all be in professions that we like or dream of. If that was the case no one would work in certain fields.

[@johnsyler8580]

I worked in a factory as a welder for 10 years. It put a roof over our head and food on the table. I always said that I loved my family more than I hated my job.

[@Mareno33]

​@@johnsyler8580 Amen and use that as a motivator. Also in your freetime work and invest in yourself so you can downgrade the hours in the future at your fulltime job 😊

[@macneoh7418]

I would say 90% of people hate their jobs. The other 10% are lying to themselves.

[@HOLDXSTEEL]

@@macneoh7418the other 10% got lucky and have a cushy job that they “love “

[@joesmith3590]

It is rarely the job and is usually the people and company. You can dig holes all day and not hate it. These exact same jobs people didn’t mind 40 years ago.

[@eurekahope5310]

Definitely spend time in your career path before starting. I knew several young teachers who spent years of study and went into debt only to discover they hated teaching or couldn't control a classroom.

[@knottheory79220]

Teaching is one of the worst careers in the sense that new teachers get the worst assignments. I've switched careers since then, we give new people the easiest jobs and least critical duties so they can get some experience, exact opposite of teaching.

[@WesternBachelor]

lol teeeacherrssss go do an actual manual labor job and tell me how hard teaching is

[@AccidentalCarnivore-ul3kg]

Adulting is challenging!! We all have to take responsibility for our choices…and you…for the ones you’ve made.

[@Jedi12789]

So true whether good, bad, or indifferent.

[@maychan6843]

To

[@MYDIGITALBOOK]

I am a certified welder, a cdl holder, a diy mechanic who's worked in some shops (with some college classes, but not ase certified, yet), after getting married in October 2023, I stopped my trucking job and working in a warehouse. I am not making more money than I was making while truck driving. I can't say that I love my job, but I can say I appreciate that it helps me pay my bills.

[@screwdriver_bandit]

2 close friends who are RN’s - they both hate their jobs due to how they are treated/scheduled. My cousin was a NICU nurse now a NP. I called her Mother Theresa growing up she was always cut out for that work. It is heartbreaking work and you are caring for dying infants and their families. Good luck.

[@raedorin979]

I did 3 years at a JC in California to get my RN. cost 3 grand. Been an NICU nurse for 15 years. I got my bachelor's while working so i could be a traveler.

[@kellimoore6355]

I've been a nurse for ten years. I was a chemist before that and not making much money at all. Nursing has been a very good career for me. I too wanted to be a NICU nurse and eventually a neonatal nurse practitioner. It didn't take me long as a new nurse in newborn nursery to know that I like holding little babies more than I enjoyed being their nurse.

[@marcenelj]

How does she have student debt without even a high school diploma??

[@AccidentalCarnivore-ul3kg]

She probably dropped out of high school then went to College as a mature student.

[@lombardo141]

Probably went to a private school.

[@lombardo141]

@@AccidentalCarnivore-ul3kg according to her, she needs a GED so i doubt she want to college. The diploma from the school she went to is not recognized.

[@marcenelj]

@AccidentalCarnivore-ul3kg mature student? Never heard of that

[@AccidentalCarnivore-ul3kg]

@marcenelj - In Canada where I live 🇨🇦 you can be a high school drop out - not have a GED - and apply to go to College as a Mature Student. They just ask for you to be at least 19 years old and have work/ life experience. Not sure about the rules in the USA. 🇺🇸

[@richardhudson1243]

Protecting your capital is much more important than making money. Basically because if you lose your capital, making money is much harder which put you in debts. ''Missing the train'' vs. ''losing your money''. There are a lot of trains, but if your money is gone, it's over.

[@LUCIASMITH-d1z]

Wall Street pitched so-called quality stocks with high profitability and low debt, as a kind of insurance against whatever the economy might throw at you. Quality stocks have underperformed the S&P500 this year, My $200k portfolio is down by approximately 20 %, any recommendations to scale up my returns on investment

[@mydressmemos]

Thats true, I've been getting assisted by a FA for almost a year now, I started out with less than $200K and I'm just $19,000 short of half a million in profit.

[@JacobsErick-u8r]

bravo! I've worked in real estate for over 25 years and have neglected a major stock portfolio, but I need a different plan now... mind if I look up the professional guiding you please?

[@mydressmemos]

I have a female advisor named Melissa Terri Swayne I recommend researching her. To be very honest, I'm glad I decided to let someone handle expanding my finances even though I almost didn't think I should.

[@winifred-k9e]

She appears to be well-educated and well-read. I ran an online search on her name and came across her website; thank you for sharing.

[@Lealelan]

Dave, thank you. As a nurse, I cant tell you how many people want to go into it because it pays well. And it does. BUT let me tell you, you work HaRD for that money. I have a lot of arthritis and back probs from my years as a pediatric nurse not wanting to wake parents up and using poor body mechanics. It can be gross. And depending where you work, you may be floated to other departments working in areas that include people who talk back at you, spit at you, throw their urine on you, etc. But if you fall in love with the field, it can also be one of the most rewarding. I had my college degree in marketing/public relations and worked in the field 10 years before going back to school for nursing in my 30's. I didnt have the pre-reqs from my under-grad or they were too old, so essentially had to do 2 years part time (while I worked part time) to do the nursing school pre-reqs. Then I went through a JC Assoc of nursing (ADN) program. Many hospitals these days prefer a BSN but I've been fine with my combination of education. Then to get into nursing school, it can be super competitive, so you have to have stellar grades. I wish this caller success.

[@juliehorney995]

Great advice. I did something similar on my path to becoming an Occupational Therapist. A friend of mine, after GED/high school diploma became a CNA, then Medical Assistant, and then LPN on her way to becoming an RN.

[@2muchReality7ven]

How do you like being an occupational therapist? I thought about that profession but went elsewhere in the psyche realm.

[@juliehorney995]

@@2muchReality7ven I loved it for virtually all of my 29 years as an OTR with an advanced masters in Psych and minor in Administration. Moving to different settings, states, and nontraditional practice kept it interesting. This included a year in a special type of work comp insurance, consulting, and even a public speaking business on fall and injury prevention. My fav setting and last was home health. Loved the autonomy and direct contact with families and most pets! Godspeed as you decide.

[@2muchReality7ven]

@juliehorney995 That sounds like alot of experience you acquired. Thank you for your insight.

[@markmurrell1894]

Love your life, like your job.

[@sitka49]

I have a good life, but hated my job. I Just started looking at as means to end, and the trick is not bring it home with you.

[@mayasilliman1465]

As a retired RN in Critical Cre units, CCU, ICU, telemetry units, medical-surgical units.....it IS hard, heartbreaking, stressful and sometimes thankless work. Burnout is severe. Sleep disorders arise (I have one), stress related ulcers, staff enemies, and administration conflicts are real. Never spend thousands of dollars on this line of work unless you are prepared for all of that. Dave is right, volunteer and ask questions first. Are you prepared for 8, 10 or 12 hour shifts and back to back doubles? I would go home after 12 hours, have enough time for an hour of TV then go to bed for another 12 hour shift. I'd go over the shift in my mind to see if I could have done things other way and also there are your favorite patients that die are dying and you DO get personally involved. It does happen. I worked for over 35 years before I had to go on disability for my back and sleep disorder.

[@kendrapratt2098]

Thank you for your dedication

[@mayasilliman1465]

@@kendrapratt2098 Thank you very much and have a safe New Year.

[@alexandrashank]

She could look for a job as a newborn hearing screening technician. She’d be working with 24-48 hour old newborns. Starting pay is around $20/hr and most teaching hospitals offer some kind of tuition reimbursement

[@deirdrekiely6187]

$20/hour is a poverty wage in any major city.

[@alexandrashank]

@ she lives in West Virginia. They have one of the lowest costs of living in the country

[@jdarnone]

I worked with a guy once that was hired as a Computer Programmer, his degree was in Philosophy. It's not always about what your degree is in.

[@MazingerZ3001]

Sometimes we go about things the wrong way and we end up realizing it too late. First, stop relying on your feelings (i.e. hate, dislike, passion, this job is not the real me) about your job. It ain’t a hobby. It IS what pays your bills! Second, have a logical plan and a goal for when you decide to leave your job. Going to school to “get ahead in career” or “to earn more money” doesn’t guarantee you’ll get ahead or get more money. You’ll just incur more debt actually. So this time around use your brain and think about your next course of action instead of letting your feelings rule your decisions. Pass your GED, don’t leave your job if you have no other better paying job to replace it, save money to go to a community college for an associate nursing degree, which can be a pathway program to a 4-yr nursing degree. There are programs like that but it’s very competitive. If you’re not committed to the very end and run away at the first sign of hating the degree you’re taking, you’ll get into a huge student loan debt. Nurses earn a substantial amount of pay in exchange for 12-hour shifts and unholy amounts of stress, if you’re “hating” your job now for being boring and doing desk work, simply “loving kids” ain’t gonna cut it in that profession. THINK FIRST.

[@elmamejilla8970]

Yes now a days Nursing is very very stressful. You might regret doing it. Young nurses they Quit right away bec they can’t do it. They say they went to nursing bec of Salary/money.

[@strangeroamer3219]

It doesn't seem so hard to me. During Covid they had so much free time that they were doing tik tok videos dancing.

[@RB-je2ri]

RN for 25 years. My thoughts: Start out as a CNA- you should have minimal dollar and time investment to do get certified as a CNA. Work as a CNA - find a place that has tuition reimbursement. Get an associates first at your local tech school - same RN degree as the expensive bachelors. Work as an RN and move towards the specialized NICU nurse while working as an associates degree RN. I worked my way through RN school as a CNA for a company that paid for my tuition. I think I paid 400 out of pocket for that degree. If you talk about this career goal with other nurses they will tell you a similar story. Good luck!

[@quixomega]

If you hate your job, find another job. Preferably one that pays better.

[@HOLDXSTEEL]

Yes because it just is that easy 😂

[@adriano1309]

Very helpful comment thank you for your service 🙏🏽

[@joshuacorbin221]

I found the best pay in the area and I'm gonna stick it out until a. My emergency fund is full, or b. My body says no

[@Injustify123]

Go to st Mary’s nursing program. It’s an associate program and can get hired at their hospital right after graduation. They have pretty good pay offers right now. Their associates degree is a Marshall University degree. You can then get your BSN online in a year through Marshall, too

[@Luma_29]

She needs to get her GED and then become a Certified Nursing Assistant while she works in nursing school

[@1stdraft611]

Some jobs are so toxic I had to walk out or quit. I'm getting hired on to a job later this week. It's the least crazy job I've had in a long time. I'm going to use that low-paying job to get my welding certificate required for a specific job.

[@rebeccashields9626]

Volunteering to rock babies is lovely but if you want to know if you will be a nurse or not volunteering is NOTHING like nursing. If you think you want to be a nurse be a CNA or patient care tech first. It is a good career and so flexible and has such a variety of jobs available. But he is right work as a CNA first, decide you like it, then find a program. You can get an associates in as little as three years if you go full time!

[@INuniform]

She doesn't need a bachelors to be a RN, find a community college and get an associates degree. Same pay starting in most places.

[@Lealelan]

and once you get hired on, many hospitals have an education budget and will reimburse for further education.

[@roolyfe]

I got 300K in debt. I have 200K in student loans. 50K in credit cards. Auto loan 30K. 20K in personal loans! Should I go to code school or get an MBA?

[@lotte9964]

Healthcare isn’t easy. After 34 years in the field. Really thinks about health care . It’s giving up holidays and a lot of family time. Be ready to give your life to service. Volunteer first. Dave’s so right about nursing .

[@thejacksontwosome]

You can be a NICU nurse in two years, depending on the program and the hospital. A two-year associate’s degree allows you to take boards and become an RN.

[@Lealelan]

but you have to get the pre-reqs in. So ultimately it's around a 4 year program.

[@thejacksontwosome]

@ I did this program. You need anatomy, English and chemistry before starting nursing courses, which you can take in the summer before the nursing portion. Then you need micro, physiology and psych, which can be taken while in the nursing courses so easily done in 2.5 years.

[@janise01]

How can a high school diploma not be recognized just because it's from a Hawaiian school. That makes no sense.

[@joesmith3590]

All schools have to receive some form of accreditation. If you open a school tomorrow the diploma doesn’t count they have a process as a school to get accredited.

[@TXPrincessPaula]

@@joesmith3590 No, all schools do not have to be accredited. Plenty of private and public schools are not. Homeschoolers are educated by their family (which is basically an unaccredited tiny private school) and are easily able to go to most any college or university in the USA with an appropriate college application and adequate entrance exam scores.

[@TXPrincessPaula]

She called it an "competency adult community school," not a high school or a private school. My guess is that it is probably more of a shady credit recovery style place which functions as nothing more than diploma mill.🤔

[@joesmith3590]

@ home school is done through accredited program. Google it before you post lmao.

[@joesmith3590]

@@TXPrincessPaula they for sure do have to be accredited in some form to get a diploma. Honestly school is done through accredited programs. If not you get no diploma. Use Google before you type lol.

[@noble604]

That’s a question I’ve asked myself ... how much other people don’t like their work. The reason is, I was raised with the family belief that part of having a good work ethic was about doing it and not being a complainer and giving it our best. Being called “lazy” was a VERY big insult in my family. Relatives perceived as that - and as not thankful and as “entitled” - were not respected and even talking about hating work was seen as lazy, too, (or at least, that was the message.) I have often wondered how it works with others and how they honestly feel about their work.

[@juliac406]

I have been an RN for 43 years. My mother told me I would always have a job. I have but did not always like the job. Now work in home health. I haven't worked a 40 hour week in 25+ years. Usually 50-60hours.

[@TheRealCcE]

As someone who works in property management, I can attest it is very toxic.

[@newjerseycollector]

Nurinsg is an awesome field but it's not for everyone. My wife has been a Rn in the ER for 5 years and she's loves what she does. Makes a little over $120,000 a year and has tons of PTO. Worth looking into.

[@Love_cats584]

It’s really easy to get a GED. I did you just have to take a test and I am a nurse now. There are also bridge programs where you can do associate RN and get a job and then go back to school for your bachelors.

[@Lealelan]

and hopefully the hospital you're working for will pay for the Bachelors/Master's programs

[@Liznvx]

I would suggest finding an entry level position in the medical field while paying off debt and then go from there. There are a lot of entry level positions. Especially in hospitals. Even if it’s working in the kitchen. The whole point is to get your foot in the door.

[@Ryan_DeWitt]

So many people spend so much time and money "preparing" to be successful.

[@Tehui1974]

I don't know many people under the age of 40 that both like their job and are satisfied with the pay.

[@northharriscollege]

Anyone going back to nursing school it’s a no question yes. It’s the best bang for your buck degree by far.

[@lombardo141]

yeah that's why the schools are flooded and now have waiting lists. I hate the internet; it just saturates everything. Everybody now wants to be a nurse.

[@dannymartial7997]

It is far from best bang for your buck 😂 You can get a cybersecurity degree for $20k, it only takes 2 years, and you make $150k immediately after you graduate. There are plenty of high paying careers that cost very little to get into. Nursing is not one of them.

[@northharriscollege]

@@lombardo141 bro nursing school have always had a waiting list. How old are you?

[@northharriscollege]

@@dannymartial7997 yeah good luck finding a job. There’re laying off tech workers left and right.

[@rebeccashields9626]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@lombardo141yeah I got my degree 16 years ago and it was highly competitive to get into school. That is nothing new I promise you.

[@suen5006]

She doesn't need a GED to attend a local community college, she can just take placement tests or get a special status in WV. Or go back to Arlington, get a room. Get a job as a home care aid or nanny, study for and take the GED online, then progress to part time community college.

[@jennifersedore4774]

Im a nurse. You need to have a very strong Science and math background. I would volunteer which is what I did, it helped make the decision.

[@andreanease4215]

I would contact homeschool legal defense association and see if there’s anything they can do about your high school education not being recognized. They assist many homeschoolers with the job rejections and may be able to help in this situation also.

[@harrycgrace4504]

I wish I could find a job. Happy new year.

[@TheEGA4421]

Some of the courses you will need to take...human anatomy; human physiology; algebra; chemistry; microbiology.

[@MirkoRatar]

Yo, just went through the book called 'The Hidden Path to Manifesting Financial Power' - honestly, didn’t expect it to be this solid. Definitely worth a look

[@gibblespascack1418]

I would just take the GED test and see where we are first. Then, if you need more for GED, then do that while continuing to work. Also, look at your company, they may help with education. My company paid 90% of my MBA degree, and all that I had to do was pass the classes, to be reimbursed the 90%. Some companies have these programs so you should take advantage of this.

[@first1097]

Watching Daves vids for a few months to remind me why I work. I have debt and now about 650 euros left to pay off. Have a new job lined up as forex portfolio manager and can't wait to just blast through the babysteps with the new salary ❤ If I had this job 2 years ago, the money would have either killed me or I would have bought rly stupid things instead of saving and thinking about the future. Thanks Dave much love

[@irishchocolate3872]

I find in looking for jobs, employers are more interested in skill, experience and knowledge in the particular field than wether you have a college degree.

[@jmfs3497]

Moonlighting the NICU is a good idea to test the waters. I'm in a different field of Virtual Reality and 3D modeling. I love PART of the field I am in, and would pivot to teaching if the money weren't so scarily low. I like helping people grow. I like mentoring. I like watching people discover their own strengths. I like working with people that can have higher level conversations about our field, and I find myself stuck working with people that have very low interest in growing. It's like they have been waiting to retire for 20 years, while I was growing my skills the entire time, and the last 10 years has been me figuring out that they find my growth threatening, and it seems so weird. Why couldn't they have gotten a job that was simple, rather than gatekeeping others.

[@tinaanderson9186]

Nursing can be an emotional strain which could also lead to mental strain, ESPECIALLY in NICU. I have a cousin, on my husband’s side of the family, who was a NICU nurse for 30+ years. She had 4 children, the youngest two were twins. Her husband worked weekdays, she worked in NICU on weekends (36 hours @ full time wage). That’s what worked for her family. As a young girl, growing into a young lady, and mature adult, the LORD “prepared” her heart for what HE had planned for her life’s work. She followed the LORD’s Plan, and even though, there were very difficult emotional times, she “stayed the course”, and the LORD blessed her tremendously. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤

[@ChrisCarlos64]

My aunt works with NICU babies. It is NOT easy. She has done it for years. It will break your heart over and over seeing those little ones cling to life and sadly those that don't make it.

[@DEBTFREEMIKE769]

Rachel looking 🔥 in this episode

[@sandrasmith6207]

2025 is my year to start my debt plan

[@erinlucas6868]

Why are there ads on their channel for refinancing? That seems like a contradiction.

[@diceportz7107]

Once you are over the age of 18, you do not have to have a high school diploma to attend college. You don't have to take the ACTs or SATs either. There is a test you can take in its place, each college has their own.

[@analyticalchick3064]

Nope. Let's not talk out of our butts.

[@luisriba8082]

Getting a degree is a long term process and very stressful because of the loans you have to take. In the other hand, dealing with the stress for the money in a career that you going to hate and probably affect your wellbeing is not worth sometimes either.

[@juliashishikin1838]

So much good advice from Ramsey 👌

[@amydoran9987]

With her limited education,she will be in school forever . She needs way too much schooling to accomplish her goals.

[@RonDoiron-pz3ee]

Nursing is one of the hardness and thankless career you could possibly be in. I myself is thankful for your dedication.

[@cindydavis597]

If my husband and I are paying off our debt my not using credit cards, and our credit score really drops, does that matter or is important? “They” say” “Oh no, don’t pay off your credit cards, it will ruin your credit score.” Really?

[@JohnSmith-dj5gf]

Most people don’t have careers, they have jobs that they go to to get a paycheck. Choose a course that brings home a bigger paycheck rather than going into debt.

[@KENTUCKYUSA1]

I started nursing school in 1965 at age 18. Now retired RN after a long career. If you are not called in your soul to this vocation, do not take on nursing. It is exhausting work and poorly paid over the long haul. Your health will suffer. Sometimes our pay would seem to catch up for a short while, but then the staffing would be cut to the point of patient endangerment. I worked NICU for 7 years and it was exacting work that included major heartbreak. You need a strong internal core to deal with the emotional and spiritual aspects of caring for the ill and dying.

[@wendybryan6071]

In Socal and maybe elsewhere she can find a community college with a (very competitive) nursing program, taking a full load. Then transfer to 4 yr state college for 1 year to get her RN. Don't know what further training is needed to qualify for NICU.

[@terrigray6044]

What kind of student debt do you have, when you dont have a high school diploma?

[@macneoh7418]

Going to school creates bills and takes hours out of the day. She needs to spend as many hours as she can making an income.

[@queen.kristal8395]

Wow you spend 12 years in school and they say that its not a credital school nationally is terrible .

[@sheilahill5492]

This woman needs to really consider how hard it is to become a nurse. I've been a nurse for 31 years. Thanks to God and my Dad, working 3 jobs to put me through school. I had zero student loans. It's hard, taxing to every part of your body, new things every year that you have to take classes to keep up your RN license, the license has to be paid for every 2 years, the price keeps rising, and this is not a 9 to 5 job. You leave when the job is finished . My brother has been a nurse in the burn unit for about 6 years. He has $70,000 in student loans. You don't have to go to a big university and spend a lot of money!! I went to community college and have the same title as my brother. Be smart. Consider all your options, if it's not a calling from God, then don't do it.

[@Yomine123]

Thank God, I personally make as much or more than a nurse, and more than some Drs. I am a caregiver. No school, just went into the field from a young age

[@strangeroamer3219]

Caregivers don't make much money. Is your patient rich?

[@Yomine123]

@strangeroamer3219 No the people that I care for are not rich.

[@laneesha1000]

My advice to this lady would be no matter what start working towards getting the GED..make a plan and budget put up with your job until the credit cards are paid off…get your CNA license..for free there are plenty of jobs that will PAY for her to go back to school to become a RN especially the hospitals so she’ll have no debt.

[@katherinesmith235]

She could go to a community college and get an associates in Nursing first. I teach English at a 2 year school with such a program. It is quite competitive to get in and nursing students are excellent at academics especially the sciences and writing. If the caller wants to go into health care there are so many excellent programs (even radiology and cardio technicians) that aren't expensive and lead to good careers. And they have fast track GED programs too.

[@jeffkline9191]

Become a pct patient care tech and then take classes at community college and some hospitals pay for tuition

[@stephengamber7000]

great advice

[@Kennybooy9]

Great advice. As a mature nurse, I can add that back injuries are prolific. Interesting too that only 2 of 100 people who talk of this career ever take the step. On average 1 of those will fail the Xams.

[@JoeRNNE1]

I don't fault her for being disheartened with property management. She deals with a lot of disasters (and BS) on a daily basis. With that said, I agree with Dave's remarks about nursing. It's a tough career.

[@lombardo141]

I always cringe when i hear people say "going back to school" . Expect for a professional advancement in your current field, what's the point ?

[@alfonsosalinas3026]

For real. I finish my Bachelor's this May and I never wanna step foot in a university or community college ever again

[@rozdoyle8872]

Agreed, I sold my business & was lost so decided to go to Uni for 3 years as a mature student , got a smart BA cert in a frame and am older & wiser , back doing similar to what I originally ran away from.

[@joesmith3590]

A nurse is a real career and better then a job most will work without a degree. For most degrees it is not worth it but a nurse is a real skill not a worthless degree.

[@lombardo141]

@@joesmith3590hence it falls into the advancement of career. I am talking about people going to get an advanced degree in art or something like that

[@maryannanderson2213]

I'm glad Dave discouraged her from going back to school. It amazes me how many people have a student debt and a low paying job or a job they don't like and their solution seems to be to go back to school. Maybe I'm wrong but that just seems like a really bad idea to me. Keep working and pay off your CURRENT student debt before you consider adding to it. Also, if you have a job that requires additional training, usually that company will pay for your additional schooling so she needs to settle into something she loves and THEN look around for schooling to help her advance. That's my humble opinion.

[@enigmathegrayman2953]

A pension is keeping me at my employer, golden handcuffs have me locked to the wall for a minimum of 18 months and a maximum of five more years.

[@kendrapratt2098]

Her Hawaii diploma isn’t recognized and she’d have to get a GED? Does anyone know why that would be?

[@joshuacorbin221]

I'm staying in my harsh night shift position until i have a fully funded emergency fund or die trying

[@Dre2011]

You make 50K with a GED!!! You won

[@mjdee31]

I hate my job too, the problem is I can’t find anything I like. Just want to sell it all and live in the woods, family won’t go for it though. 😂

[@Mj-fm6kj]

NICU nurse here.. while I love my job and I'm really good at it ---NO 6 years to get there not worth it. We are overworked and underpaid. I've been at the bedside for 14 years and staffing is the worst I've ever seen. Assigments are so heavy I see new nurses burning out so fast. I'm at a level 4 so sickest of the sick. I'd rather have some sort of flexible work from home job at this point in my career

[@joe_ferreira]

A competency adult community school is a college based high school diploma. She is very misinformed. It does count.

[@justicesmith8798]

Lol it would probably take her longer to become a NICU volunteer than a NICU nurse. Those positions are extremely competitive.

[@MyNeonBubbles]

I also work in property management. I also hate it. I feel for her lol

[@aaronmurphy8796]

This lady made an analogy to herself being a cow. Fascinating

[@laurenh906]

You don't know how to deal with grief but you want to work in a NICU?

[@katherinesmith235]

Truth. My baby was born at 28 weeks and was in a NICU for 3 months. I cried everyday and life felt so hard being in a medical setting that long as a parent and seeing so many distraught parents and tiny babies. And I was one of the lucky ones who took my baby home. It was an overwhelming experience that still brings tears to my eyes. The nurses were angels and I will never forget them. I can't imagine working there all day every day. I suppose many of those nurses are nearing retirement 25 years later.

[@Primitive_Code]

> 80% of people don't like their jobs. It's a good discipline by doing your job and not liking it.

[@James_Hough]

She does not want to work. She has this idea of a "dream job" but the reality is that she would rather go into debt and tell people about this wonderful thing she says she wants to do than work. BTW- in 2 years (after high school) you can be an RN, but most RN programs are demanding and she doesn't seem like she's into demanding. Learn to "love" (whatever that means) your current job and pay off debt. When that is done, figure out the next step.

[@jackielehman8945]

Yup. Get in the door. Maybe you just want to do janitor work at the hospital. You need to know what you are getting into. There are plenty of jobs within nursing that you could get.

[@brettbordelon]

6 years? You can become an RN in 2 years in most states.

[@FortuneSeek3rz]

She has to get her prerequisites first and there's a long list of prerequisites to get into nursing school.

[@meetadi4u]

6 years for nursing is crazy

[@joshuacorbin221]

I feel this in my frontal lobe