I hate the Shelby GT500 - All flaws revealed!

[@pro5.019]

I think hate is a strong word, the Recaro seats have never been powered in any generation Mustang that I can recall. It is also common knowledge that you never open or close a hood or trunk lid from the corners, always do it from the center to avoid any paint issues. If the front wheels stuck out further you would have a much greater chance of rock chips along the body. Think back to the GT350R it didn't even have a infotainment system, this car is all about performance. 670 whp in stock form, with a few simple mods it can easily reach 900 whp and do it without breaking a sweat. It would be hard to get that type of performance out of any other car on the market for the money, every car has body fitment and or paint issues. With the push for EV this car will be the last of it's kind and an end of an Era, enjoy it for what it is not many people can even afford 1 performance car let alone 3.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Thanks for watching and sharing the perspective.... I am a big fan and I love this car....however like everyhting, no machine is perfect and the video was an effort to share what I experienced... I still don't support a fully manual recaros but I get why it is -- what it is! I can now see the tucked front wheels correlation with rock chips, that's a good point...personally I wouldn't have mind as this whole car has PPF but I can see why it is preventive for other people. In regards to boot, having a basic understanding of shutting it from centre doesn't solve the problem that it has no latch or indent to grip-shut it.... Totally agreed on sheer performance prowess of the car.. Thanks again.

[@smokinchuck]

You didn’t know or think of these complaints before buying it lol 🤦🏻‍♂️. It’s a race car and meant to be raced on a track. It’s meant to be stripped down with not a lot of extras. If it’s not needed for a race, it doesn’t need to be in the car! Even the seats, leather is nice, but cloth weighs less also. It’s a nice car, enjoy it rather than complain about it lol 😂

[@HotRodsDFW]

I know buddy...I was too much in love to spot any flaws ;) And I agree with you on the performance aspect of the car which is the reason I wouldn't change it for anything in that under 170-180k range (maybe a 911 turbo;)) Thanks for watching

[@connormacleod5766]

I get where you're coming from but these cars are not designed to be luxury etc. Power seats add weight, better front wheel offset would look good but will take away from what the car is designed for. These cars are designed and engineered to be track monsters and that's exactly what they are - people say "Yeah but it's a $100k car with no luxury" well the money is in the powertrain, not the interior. I'm a Ford 'fanboy' and I'm not ashamed to say so! Ford fit and finish will never be great, I've had over 25 Ford cars/trucks and they have all had fit and finish issues and they always will. Not a problem for me, I think it adds to the character and it's expected on my end at least. I will say the dash rattle was driving me nuts too, here's a possible fix - In the glove box there's a drop down compartment for the owners manuals, pull that yellow tab and make sure the owners manuals are in there at all times, that fixed it for me.

[@Mountain_Valley_Sky]

Wrap up: Hate gone once u drive. Hate manual seat on a Track car ✔ Hate front width due to camber ✔ Hate closing boot from side 😒 ✔ Hate Dash board humming noise✔ Hate car build quality ✔ Keeps hating base car while reviewing CF car. Sell it or Send it! Don't own it & Hate it.

[@Bigjhnsn88]

I have the same car and color in the base model. The build quality is terrible. I had a 13 gt500 and it was almost perfect. My ford dealer's opinion was that all of them were like that. I spent weeks adjusting everything so that it was barely acceptable. I bought Signature aftermarket wheels and lost 12lbs of weight off each wheel and Terrence representing that company knew how to do the offsets so that my wheel appearance is much improved. I also had my springs resized so that the front and rear wheel gap is the same. I had problems with my active exhaust and it took ford months to fix it finally and it was not the dealers fault. As for the seats I do wish they were electrically adjustable but I have it set for me and I only need to move it forward and back and I easily live with that. I do absolutely love the car though. Mustangs seem to be meant to be worked on and made to suit their owners and that is a reason that I like them.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Very true....super alike experience...I had bigger issues on build quality in my base car...thankfully the CFTP ones has been more livable....Thanks a ton for watching and sharing your experiences.... great to know we are not alone....I had issues with electric parking brake which got fiixed after a few restarts. Brilliant machine though and I love the Race Red color :D

[@shaned8802]

Its a mustang and the GT500 is a carryover of old road racing days. It was never meant to be a high end luxury car. And most of your complaints would be apparent before ever buying the car.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Agreed...honestly I wouldn't change it and even in the hindsight, buy it again due to the performance it brings! Thanks for watching.

[@shadspov]

the reason the recaros don't have power or heat/cool is because the CFTP is meant to be a track car for the most part, that's why it has no rear seat...all about weight saving. I was actually surprised that they didn't have the radio delete like they did on the gt350r...it's more about weight saving over cost cutting...power could definitely have been an option but in their minds, most people are tracking these cars to solve your trunk opening issue, steeda makes a trunk pop kit for these cars so when you hit the trunk button, it opens all the way on its own love the content so far...subbed we'll hav e to get together when I move out to Texas

[@HotRodsDFW]

Thanks buddy for watching and sharing your perspective. It definitely makes sense on the weight reduction part when I think about it. Those electrical would have certainly added some mass…I will check out on the trunk kit… And definite thing - reach out when you have a plan to Texas…trying to build a little group of all like minded folks.

[@hpickettz34]

Zl1 1le is meant for the track, and its lighter also.

[@shadspov]

@@hpickettz34 yes i know what the 1le is for. Not talking about that car.

[@ooOOWideOOoo]

Nice car ! The reason the front tires aren't flush with the fenders is because it has negative camber for handling. I did notice the spider webs hovering above the passenger side floor board, do you not let your friends ride ? start enjoying your very special performance car.

[@HotRodsDFW]

I see...I did find about the negative camber.. And holy shit...you got one heck of an eye to spot that spider web...I realized it after as well :D And I will admit, there has been only twice when I had a passenger next to me....have had more folks in my vette amd ZL1 though! Thanks for watching sir....planning to bring some intersting content to the channel..

[@jlb1971]

It's a 305 up front and 315 in rear and that's why the front is tucked. Put a wider tire up front and BAM!

[@GrabberBlue5.2]

no that wont change the tuck issue on the fronts. the fronts of the CFTP are 11" ET32. putting a 10mm wider tire doesnt change that. if you notice aftermarket wheels for the gt500, they are almost always going with ET10 - ET16 and this will cause the car to be more aggressive and "poke". it has to do with offsets. wider tire isnt the answer at all.

[@LifeHackMEDIATV]

you are right about the Recaros. That's the reason why I didn't get them. 100k Car with Manual adjusting seats. I couldn't deal with that in my head. LOL. Great Video brother. I love my shelby GT500 though.

[@CoyoteAUS]

Interesting, my 2020 Mustang GT has electric back and forth seats only the vertical part of the seat is moved manually.

[@jameslopez5652]

Weird. Thought they would still have them like the ones in my 2015 50th GT (love that wimbledon white). They are fully powered, even the up and down (the lower portion of course). I'll be at the dealer test driving a 22' so definitely going to check that out. Big deal for me to be able to do that, because I am 6'5" and have already had 3 lumbar fusion surgeries so it helps. I also have a power lumbar in mine. Does the new one have it?

[@CoyoteAUS]

@@jameslopez5652 yep mine go up and down back and forth. Just the vertical part of the seat is manual.

[@jameslopez5652]

@@CoyoteAUS wtf LOL I am tired apparently, thought you wrote initially vertical as in the bottom up and down. Damn I'm out of it haha.

[@CoyoteAUS]

@@jameslopez5652 nah mate the back rest of the seat is manual

[@zgblundell]

So the new mustangs are suppose to have cool and heated Recaros so I wonder if they will be electric?

[@HotRodsDFW]

Yeah being electric sucks though :( Thanks for watching.

[@HiddenMPH]

The recaros save weight being non powered. The front wheels are inside because of air flow

[@CJR505]

Getting the carbon fiber package is a stupid move. People buy these cars and suddenly think they’re race car drivers and experts. Just because it says, “Track Package” doesn’t mean it’s a race car. The Race Seats are exactly that. They’re not comfy or good.. Just a fancy name for the guys who wear racing gloves when they drive GT500’s. You bought this car and sat in it… Now you don’t like the seat options? That’s on you man. Also, they’re $75k and $85k cars, the dealers mark them way up. With all the cosmetic stuff you “hate” why did you buy it??? You went with it. Was this a used car? Looks like it’s been messed with by someone who has no clue or business messing with this car. Taking this GT500 to the track isn’t a good move. It’s going to cause problems, regardless of the car. Its not a race car, even though it can be taken to the track. Wrong car for constant track use. Throwing carbon fiber on a GT500 doesn’t make it a legit race car. Should have went with the base model, not the “fake track” car. All your complaints are from track use and abuse. Carbon fiber hoods are garbage.. They’re not going to hold up at constant high speeds on a track, etc. That’s why a lot of professionals who do buy these for the track replace the carbon fiber hoods.

[@HotRodsDFW]

You defintely haven't driven the CFTP - and I don't blame you as dealers don't offer test drives on these! I owned the base car and sold it in 2 momths to get the track pack and there is super noticeable difference between the handling dynamics and performance it pulls - there is a lot to love in this car - just like nothing in life is perfect, the video was to talk about some of those imperfections - it still is one of the best handling cars in under 200k. Talking with a lot of experience! Thank you for watching and sharing your views.

[@xevious2501]

only dumb people come up with such complaints. they have no idea what they are buying, nor do they truly understand what certain vehicles are, what they are achieving in a real world situation. The GT500 is basically a homogenate race car. It actually has more power than most race cars but unlike actual race cars its stuffed with road car components which brings on weight and many other complexities. more over, the GT500 is starting off life as a common mustang, designed to serve tasks far short of that of a a race car. but its been beefed up to such a degree that it can compete with vehicles far beyond its price range. and that point is very important, because its the very core of what makes it what it is good and bad. A mustang is one of the worlds top selling cars. Its never gone out of production which few marques can attest to. And yet its a car with many flaws. but what people fail to realize is how it all relates to its success and its longevity. The flaws of the mustang is what gives the car its character. while other companies strive for engineering perfection, they inevitably strip their vehicles of character. they become sterile, lacking mood and emotion, ultimately great performance and quality but lacking a soul. while mustangs have flaws, but as such are obtainable price wise, alowing the owner to elevate them via aftermarket products. its a great starting point onto something far better, which is the business of Shelby and Saleen and Roush and Steeda , all companies that understand the potential of the humble Mustang. And the Lastest Ford Shelby factory efforts decided to take it to the next level themselves. But your also dealing with a mass produced vehicle so their will be compromises. when all is said and done. A mustang is never ment to be perfect but you will find few vehicles that you will reflect own owning when they are no longer in your possession.

[@HotRodsDFW]

I appreciate watching and taking time to share such detailed perspective - and I am in agreement with the points made! Just to caveat - I love what this car has to offer or else wouldnt have bought it twice paying thousands over msrp!! Thiis was more of a part of comparison from other similarly priced machines like the ZL1 1LE, or the C7 Z06 (I prefer GT500 over them due to a lot of other stronger points). Nothing is perfect and everyhting has flaws...this was a documentation of se of the flaws I experienced but that doesn't mean it's a bad car - there is no denying that it's a brilliant machine!!

[@45snakebite]

I totally agree with you. I have the same problem with my convertible GT. Luckily I have the power heated and cooled Ford buckets.

[@predatorshelby5780]

I have never seen anybody close a trunk like that haha. That's just you bud.

[@HotRodsDFW]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/ppKkdZZjhLGqb5I This is the proof that there is atleast one more person...lol Thanks for watching buddy!

[@chisquare5701]

I stopped the video after he complained about the "fully manual" adjustable seats.

[@archivesbysupreme7194]

Literally. Had me like “😐“

[@benhead77]

Trying to compete w super cars?! Lol… it definitely competes and surpasses most of them.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Agreed!! :) Thanks for watching Ben.

[@45snakebite]

Can you adjust the struts so the trunk will not open all the way. Maybe just 95% to minimize the paint damage ?

[@HotRodsDFW]

That is a brilliant idea Mark....I will check Thanks for watching!

[@kevinnelson7070]

I think the wheels are tucked in because that's the "cobra feature" you know like a cobra snake only expands the hood on its back when it's threatened and ready to strike, so in the same way this car has the snake emblem so the tires only pop out to a wide stance when you start cornering at high speeds or you can do this manually in your track mode settings under wheel stance. I'm just kidding I made that up🤣😂👍🏿 it's sounds good though, and any car makers who all of a sudden come out with this new option I'm suing you for idea theft💯 you heard it from me first😁

[@peteradelfio2800]

Great video, your absolute correct, but that’s Ford for you. Some things have to be overlooked. I just love driving this beast.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Thank you sir. Appreciate the comment. And can't agree more - when you step in and drive, it takes all the frustrations away :)

[@PERFIND42]

Nice videos sir keep it up

[@HotRodsDFW]

Thanks buddy Appreciate you watching.

[@sbsperformanceparts2652]

I too hate the manual Recaros so I stayed with stock seats and went with the tech package. I had the Recaros on my GT350R. I also hate the front wheel inset. However, I have NO squeaks, rattles or body panel misalignment. I too hate that the mustangs have no pull down for rear trunk (boot). You didnt mention my no.1 hate about the GT500.... I hate, I hate the transmission selector knob- P R N D. The DC transmission is great, but the spinning knob selector is terrible... I have the same stupid knobs on my Mach E GT PE...

[@HotRodsDFW]

Thanks for watching buddy - yeah I forgot about the selector knob - I got a lot of hate and criticism for doing this video but I think those who own the car will understand what we are referring so thank you for watching and sharing your views as well!

[@ChasingDifferentAdventures]

The Passenger side Door does effect Aerodynamics. The main thing about GT500 that bothers me is the only AutoTragic Transmission, the No 3rd Pedal 6 Speed Manual Transmission. Is Why I would never buy one, the GT500 Lacks the Gear Lever and the Rip it Hand Break. Ford Failed on what could have beedn an Awesome Car. Next Year will be looking to buy a Mach1 with the 3rd Pedal 6 Speed Manual Transmission 👦🏻👍🏻🏎🏁 great video, and thanks for pointing it's flaws

[@Biiilllaaal]

What ford went for was a high end american sportscar rather than a full muscle car. Which is why the 14 gt500 comes in a 6 speed manual and has a different body style to this one.

[@stephenlane2826]

I have a 13 gt500 with manual Recaros. It's a terrible seat for the set up. I had a ctsv with fully auto Recaro. They were awesome. So I bought my 21 gt500 with the regular mustang seats and they're much better. Heated cooled mostly automatic. Much better.

[@HotRodsDFW]

I know - I could never come to terms with those! Thanks for watching boss and sharing your thoughts.

[@derrickhead]

I appreciate your honest reviews I honestly rather have basic leather seats with heat and ac tho honestly I really want the Shelby America ones because they look 🥵😍 but never the less late this year I'm buying fasure

[@HotRodsDFW]

Best of luck buddy - Thank you for watching

[@JerryCecco]

how about the one time use caliper bolts

[@HotRodsDFW]

Will find out about them...did not know... Thanks for watching

[@4digitShelby]

Common practice on performance applications. Especially braking fixtures

[@Erjoe79]

If you hate it so bad, then I'll be happy to take it off your hands 😀

[@HotRodsDFW]

Haha Thanks for watching brother.

[@adriancano3991]

Beautiful car regardless

[@HotRodsDFW]

Thanks boss!

[@mikicastillo7498]

Dangg automatic?

[@svtfreakk]

If thats the worst of it sounds to me like the new gt500 is a great car.

[@HotRodsDFW]

It indeed is...nothing is perfect but this comes close to perfect especially in its price range...thanks for watching!

[@royrichardson9164]

Just GIVE it to me

[@deno-y2w]

If you don’t like it give me the car

[@mikewatch1487]

The stupid parking brake lever is in the wrong place. My hand resting on it makes it come on. Just a terrible place to put it next to the circle gear selector. . Again that circle nob is terrible feature. Cheap as hell looking. Hate those Recaros on any drive over 2 hours. I’m thin and nobody slightly over weight will fit. It’s not a $100K car IMO. It’s just a over weight pig compared to other cars.

[@HotRodsDFW]

That's some serious views about Mustangs and Shelbies - so what in your opinion in this price segment - like under 140k, is a better buy for performance and handling? I mean where would you personally put your money?

[@brianratcliffe2327]

Man maybe you should buy a honda odyssey it had power seats and a rear tailgate handle. It also comes with front wheels flush with fenders. Im a zl1 owner and my 1le seats are inferior to the gt500 seats. No harness provisions and weigh over 45lbs a seat. I removed them and installed race buckets. Again the Honda Dealership is awaiting Your call.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Well I was on the list for a C8 Z06, but something tells me you are a true petrol-head so perhaps I should change that purchase plan with a Honda Odyssey after this enlightening post and send personal thanks your way for helping me save $100k+!!...lol Thanks for watching dude...

[@charlesallen9483]

This the type of dude who probably complain about to toilet not right when he take a dump man it's a sports car not a luxury car if you want something fancy don't buy a super car

[@OEMPlus]

man, i tried but your mic input is way too loud. work on that, nice car and videos otherwise.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Appreciate the feedback buddy....guess it's high time I invest in those Rhode microphones... Thanks for watching..

[@OEMPlus]

@@HotRodsDFW bro if you can afford that car you can afford a good mic LOL its more about the volume, though, I think you just need to bring it down and equalize it with the rest of the audio.

[@rembo183]

Since you hate it you should sell it now! Flip this and make some money or at least get your money back. The market will change soon. Negativity and depreciation is in future for used car market.

[@SpokeInNoise]

Dude doesn't deserve such a beauty lol

[@jx10r13]

ok I mean no disrespect at all, and I understand some of the disappointments you have, But your literally nit picking on the stupidest things about the car, a trunk handle?? seriously man? Your comparing a family car basically that has a trunk handle, to a race car? I get you spent 100k, but look at some other cars, porche, austin martin, and a few others sold cars that where basically race cars for the street were near gutted, had nothing and costs way more over the regular model. It's damn near a track car for the street, look at the old cobra R's they had nothing at all, no radio, ac, bare bones race car for the street and people loved that car. I'm sorry, but those things your picking at are kind of stupid. I hardly ever at all comment on things, but this was a bit of a joke. It's a bada** car, drive it and enjoy it, don't worry about the stupid crap like a trunk handle.

[@richardmodglin3900]

That car you're complaining about beat a Lamborghini Huracan around the lightning lap and matched a GT3RS on a comparison lap. I understand your gripes though. The good news is that it's just a mustang....and no one expected to even see something this good by Ford. Enjoy it!

[@HotRodsDFW]

Agreed -- the performance is the reason I bought it twice -- first the base car and then the CFTP - paying a markup on both times -- thank you for watching and appreciate the perspective -- cheers!

[@macwhitcraft3242]

I honestly wish I could take my view back from this video. Honestly this is type of person that shouldn't own a shelby. Guys its a track car, they cut weight of the car. If you wanted a luxury car you shouldn't have bought a CFTP.

[@HotRodsDFW]

I don't think you got the point of the video or what it was intended for -- it wasn't about fanboyism -- a Camaro ZL1 1 LE which is truly a track monster has Recaros which are fully electric, heated and cooled and also a heads up display which is super handy whilst trying to match your revs -- On a side note - the hood on the GT500s weighs like a freaking ton and they could have given a carbon fiber hood and saved so much more weight than cutting 1Z or 2Z here and there but that's where the volume effect whilst trying to offer something exclusive within low budget comes into play - coproate strategy! Just FYI, I bought both the base GT500 and then the CFTP, so I think that should be enough of a testament to what I feel about the car -- thanks for watching!

[@cdl34453]

@@HotRodsDFW Camaro is not track monster not even top 5 when your talking about track times it lacks in hp by a lot so when it comes out of curve it doesn’t have that kick like dodge and ford has

[@cdl34453]

@@HotRodsDFW you don’t know anything about cars you don’t even know why camaro ZL1 has less hp even though they have a bigger displacement

[@HotRodsDFW]

@@cdl34453 well my view is from owning all these cars for 1+ years and having tracked them....including the Hellcat Redeye...now if you have a better first hand experience than what I have had - you are defintely free to put your views...just to help you - watch motortrend laps by Randy Pobst on Laguna Seca -- the GT500 and ZL1 1LE are within .5 seconds. I am curious what is your top 5 list - where the 1LE didn't make!! Anyway thanks for watching and sharing your perspective...

[@rembo183]

@@HotRodsDFW - Saying you “hate” a car after you buy it will raise the commentary you got. FYI- you got the expected reactions. Most people don’t like lots of complaining especially about these popular cars. They figure you should have done better research before buying and test driven it more. Carmax will give you 30 days to love it or leave it and return all your money including tax. You might want to buy from them.

[@user-gy3yi1yu6e]

I'm struggling to put food on the table an this none car guy complains about his 120k mustang

[@HotRodsDFW]

I am sure you will rock and roll bro and own everything you aspire...I appreciate your watching the video -- cheers!

[@biffclaven3798]

I would rather have a modded 2012 gt500 and $60000 in my bank account.

[@HotRodsDFW]

Haha I wouldn't call that a bad decision... Thanks for watching bud!!

[@orlandogranda5469]

Come on guy it’s a Ford what would anyone expect more 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@mikewatch1487]

It’s a cheap rental car with a big engine and trans.

[@zgblundell]

Well sell it to me. I’ll take it off your hands lol.

[@luissandoval6237]

Yes to much money and very simple

[@metroplex3k]

The gt500 is terrible, I can't believe you wasted your money. What the hell is wrong with you? Did you just fall of the turnip truck?

[@HotRodsDFW]

And why do you think it is terrible? What's a better buy for performance in that price range as per you?