I Hate Your Deck #83 Judith v Mizzix v Admiral Brass v Rocco || Commander Gameplay MTG EDH

[@nightbane727]

fun fact ward is a triggered ability that roaming throne does in fact double as well so for sedgemoor witch its pay 3 life then pay 3 life or its countered

[@AlexDuWaldt]

GG guys, well played. That play with lynch doing blas act and gaining life off the judith ability was fun to watch.

[@ThomasEbel27]

Honestly, being the first player after a permission deck just isn't a fun time. I feel for Lynch, Ayli was focusing on him HARD

[@IHateYourDeck]

It really makes you play on your toes. It makes you a better player for sure. Can’t slip up.

[@gaaragresnik4140]

yeah I guess its cause lynch knows better what she can do with her deck xD

[@nertzyyy]

@@IHateYourDecklove this positive response!

[@ThaMobstarr]

It was absolutely necessary, though. Judith can go berserk in one turn as well, as we have seen with the lifelink on the Blasphemous Act.

[@Raushwitz]

"remember when we use to play with noobs" misses that ward is a triggered ability so the pay is double while Roaming throne is out.

[@TRemIk42]

I do like it a lot that you guys go through the phases :D it shows people how things can work with Sequencing! Amazing game :D

[@lmc1103]

So we got the mystical tutor, cyclonic rift, free counter spells, infinite combo blue deck vs a tribal pirate deck...what happened to the rule 0 discussion? XD

[@mdra_]

Ayli is just insurfferable creature

[@Dmike-pe2yh]

I used to have a deck like aylis when I first started playing magic. I have come to a realization that it’s about fun for the table and took it apart to build a more fun and unique deck

[@ThaMobstarr]

tbh a control deck needs to be focused early. I think control can be fun to play with and against. You just need to learn that you can‘t let the control deck durdle around.

[@RunFromDMC]

It's official, Ray's my favorite deck builder

[@Coyote_Bongwater69]

Ray should be the second host

[@FlowBerni]

29:16 When Aily targets the Sedgemore Witch, shouldn't the Roaming Throne (named humans) double the ward trigger?

[@guijinx8984]

Yes

[@jomilagaming7136]

That "I hate your deck" to Whirlwind Denial was so on point 😂

[@TheBestPraetor]

Glad somebody's playing my favorite commander, rocco

[@tajaehickson9791]

Same

[@jeffreytenney4833]

Either of you have tips on building a Rocco deck? Currently have one listed out but I feel like I’m getting torn between +1/+1 counters and artifact token themes.

[@DatSnikka]

@@jeffreytenney4833take advantage of playing things from exile and tokens. My deck sees a lot of artifacts/tokens being made and using said tokens for either mana, damage triggers, or turning them into big critters.

[@Qweur2]

I would recommend building Rocco the exile route, i also include some grouphug cards just to speed games up. A really fun include is war doctor and some Cascade spells, have gotten some sneaky wins with him

[@BeoTCG]

I’m still fairly new to commander and found the break down of how cards resolve was very helpful tp understand what was happening

[@CGMAnimate]

Oh yes. I got my coffee, my breakfast and a new I Hate Your Deck video ready to be watched. Best Friday ever !!!

[@panache4510]

Nice show, although It felt like the power level of the decks was not reaaaaally balanced ? Ayli casted 5 tutors total this game (mystical / solve the equation x2 and gamble) and used dockside 2 times to get to a boring infinite combo (btw you're not supposed to check for interaction before the resolution of a spell and then decide to copy it, you have to keep priority and cast the copy spell immediately otherwise priority is lost, Ayli should know that). Also that rollback attempt 25:28 ("I never said it would resolve" while literally having said it 5 seconds prior is .. eh, don't do that) Otherwise, like always good vibes from Ray and Jason :)

[@brandenbrousseau7673]

Ayli is that person who you let sit in on your pod once.

[@trashcan_papi]

Yea, just really doesn’t seem fun to play with and comes off as socially inept.

[@Coyote_Bongwater69]

Also they act like her decks are so good but she loses all the time

[@69FlSHGUTS]

That's a big nope... not even once! eeek!

[@tylercherry7424]

I honestly stopped watching cause of her. She tries to rule lawyer everything and is just obnoxious. Definitely kills the vibe of the show.

[@AlexDuWaldt]

@@trashcan_papi Socially inept you say. Says the man named Trashcan Papi.

[@bottorff4]

32:42 "Woah, put that on a quote." 😅

[@mightymax1337]

@21:25 Why does the 5 attack damage not resolve, as the Pest token got sacrificed before?

[@tylercherry7424]

Ward is a triggered ability btw. You would have to pay the three life twice cause of the roaming throne.

[@RsDrPowers]

"Vadrik is dead, it's not going to matter anymore" You're in a game where reanimate is a thing, living death could happen. You always track the things you're responsible for.

[@bode0612]

at about 29:40 ward is a triggered ability, isnt it? so roaming throne would force ayli to pay an additional 3 life to target that creature

[@chitototoy176]

YYYYYOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! #NOICE first time seeing Aylee pop-OFF

[@FabrizioBaldrati]

doubling season shouldn't trigger when Dockside were cast ? 41:20

[@sema512]

I really liked the way that rakdos did his thing and what aylee did was really cool too i like how you guys play properly it makes it funner imo

[@victormanjarinsala2253]

JUDGE! Ward is a triggered ability so because of Roaming throne, the ward cost needs to be paid twice. So for the witch it would be to pay 6 lives, not 3.

[@Zenthazar]

Ward triggers twice with Roaming Throne, Alyi should have paid 3 more life on top of the normal 3 to remove Sedgemoor Witch. With that said appreciating the step by step for stack interaction to help newer players understand the madness that can happen in EDH.

[@joepiedepoepie1234]

True, also at some point in that turn they say "has ward 2" but roaming throne always has ward 4 basically, or even better because you can't stifle it in one move.

[@j0nny93rs]

What I don’t like is that ayli is always looking at whomever she sits next to’s hand

[@JasonOshinko]

44:00 This wouldn't have made a huge difference, but could Ayli have held priority and used Whirlwind Denial to counter the Diary's triggered ability that would have exiled her Experimental Augury in addition to countering all of Lynch's stuff?

[@Bully215]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wouldn’t roaming throne cause the ward ability on sedgemoor witch to trigger twice when it was targeted?

[@Gamer_-ip3rm]

Might have been caught already but ward is a triggered ability that roaming throne would double 30:31

[@OmegaMTG]

Go Ayli! I have a Mizzix deck called "Poison X Burn" that's fairly spicy. :)

[@dennis7156]

Just had to pause and comment! i got a Judith deck in the same sleeves as Lynch.. i hope he does well this game xD

[@dinovad452]

Isn't ward a triggered ability? So when Ayli tried to blow up lynch's witch, roaming throne should've seen it and she would have to pay a total of 6 life?

[@krazoanfox]

This has been pointed out. And I missed it while playing. But yes you are 100% correct

[@dinovad452]

@krazoanfox omg I'm honestly just excited to have you comment! Always respected the way you build decks btw!

[@SmackDownEDH]

Dang I was rooting for u Ray! I love pirate tribe!!!

[@tobintripp1144]

Ayy nice Rezz pash!

[@noemiller1484]

Are we sure cost reductions count toward buyback? I have gotten mixed answers.

[@krazoanfox]

100 does. It's part of step 6a-e

[@danbrookfield1338]

"i dont have to choose the target until it resolves, it resolves" 🤐

[@WabahaAbubala]

Ya when I heard that I was like ew. Her attitude this whole game was kinda trash, I don’t usually get that vibe from her but definitely this episode.

[@aclevername7613]

Fun game to watch. Will be honest from the looks of it you had two control heavy decks and one thief decks not a game I would want to step into. Seems like it would be rather painful and unfun to do. :P

[@jcole4341]

Dont mind me just here for the tool shirt....and the virtue of courage

[@joehoe24]

Regarding the card "Turnabout," do you not have to "choose" before selecting the target player? Sorry for the ignorance. I've only been playing for about 6 months.

[@therealax6]

No, because you make all choices on resolution, with a few specific exceptions: - Targets - Modes - Additional or alternative costs - Distribution of things being distributed (e.g., "distribute five +1/+1 counters between any number of targets") - Any choices that would affect the cost of the spell and/or any of the above elements, such as the value of X The player is a target, so you have to choose it on cast. The type of permanent is not.

[@gaaragresnik4140]

Nah, its a good question. choose is the first part, but the second sentence targets a player. so if you have to target, thats on casting spell, BUT cards always follow the sentences so the first part with "choose" have to apply for correct order, I guess ? O.o

[@andrewbailey7045]

No. Targeting for all spells comes before anything else unless the card says otherwise, or the issue is in a preceding, separated line of text.

[@krazoanfox]

So I have to name a target. As part of the 8 steps of casting a spell. Choosing artifact land or creature. Comes as part of resolution.

[@JasonOshinko]

All targets and modes must be announced at the time the spell is cast, but that's it. In the case of Turnabout, you cast the spell and choose target player. Then, as the spell resolves, you make the other decisions.

[@thewebscholarzan1650]

Ward is a trigged ability and roaming throne doubles that as well

[@marclyrette7936]

And that is why I end up breaking all my izzet deck apparts 😅. The only one I kept is Ian Malcolm. Good games everyone, thanks for the early show from Quebec, 🇨🇦

[@Nate-vq8wy]

I was gonna make a vadrik deck last year but decided against it because it just doesn't seem fun for the table which is more important to me. i hate infinite combo decks for this reason.

[@Marsh_MallowMan]

the ward on the witch would have triggered twice because of roaming throne, so they would have had to pay 6 life to target it.

[@jacobnordquist3448]

Dont forget roaming throne should have doubled the ward trigger! With love, a Parnesse player.

[@thedestro1]

did anyone miss that Ayli shouldn't have gotten the "dig through time" back from "river song's diary".... it imprints the spell so 'exile'. if it leaves the field they don't get the spells back they remain exiled.

[@dylanpittman2907]

Ward is a triggered ability so Ayli would have had to have paid 3 life twice when targeting Sedgemoor Witch with Brutal Expulsion. Also when Ayli went to resolve her Turnabout she has to cast Reiterate before resolving Turnabout, which wasn't a problem, it just sounded like one when she didn't declare the fact that she is holding priority to cast Reiterate. Izzet spellslinger is nuts lmao kill on sight for sure

[@Mad.Edd.702]

Great game guise loved this

[@jonathankime924]

Love seeing Ayli back, and great game, but shouldn't the roaming throne have caused the on Sedgemore witch to trigger twice?

[@big_lofe]

Shhhhaaow! 🎉🎉 4 more hours n waiting. At home with the Cold. This will def bring up the vibes.

[@AdamPearsonVideos]

Ayli finally stormed off!

[@MareczqZglos]

Ward is a trigger ability - she needed to pay 6 life to not get counter ;)

[@Urager]

Ward is a triggered ability so Ayli would have had to pay 3 Life twice when targeting Lynch's witch because of roaming throne, i believe.

[@YooAPbruh]

You always have to gank the combo/counterspell player, none of it happened. still was fun.

[@N1NJ4P1R4T3]

Its so hard to watch a control deck. "Are you sure about that? Are you sure you want to do that?" "In response" "Do you see all this untapped mana?" It becomes "officer, may I please play the game this turn?" "Mommy, can I play games with my friends today?" The rule 0 convo also seems to have left at least 2 of these decks way out of their league.

[@masseffect3096]

Gotta love spell slinging. 😁

[@douggiefresh1990]

Dang was rooting for admiral brass but great videos as always

[@Duckandrun101]

Heck yeah. thanks for the reply.

[@dwightcariker446]

Why are they hyoerfixating on the steps? We know what you’re doing, we play too.

[@yawgmoth55]

roaming throne triggers itself on ward. Its technically ward 4.

[@iamunnami]

Because of roaming throne, witch ward trigger triggers twice, so Ayli should pay 6 life

[@David-hb3gu]

Plum the forbidden fruit😂

[@RM_3D]

I need to add Turnabout to my Magnus the red deck! :O

[@botkag]

I think Ayli can't choose enough targets for comment storm to kill Lynch (Each target you choose must be different). However, reiterate would solve this problem. Good game small mistake at the end.

[@snadderolsen9834]

this would have been such a good game had it not been for counterspell tribal into infinite combo xd

[@ExiledGobbo]

This is definitely a game where the motto "make them have the answer" comes into play 😂

[@Laney0601]

Good friends and great decks! Good game to everyone 🥳

[@austindiekema1632]

😂 Plumb the forbidden fruit lol 😂 “Plum the Forbidden”

[@coasterkramer]

Great episode really spicy 🌶️

[@MidKnight_Sicario187]

Q4 ayli: hey did you go to nocturnal last year?

[@krazoanfox]

In 23? No I dind. I went 22.

[@idiamondz9998]

I was so sure lynch was gonna win😂

[@AR0SDUBZ]

INSOMNIAC!

[@AR0SDUBZ]

Get weirddddd

[@krazoanfox]

Ever see me at a show say hi.

[@Barturito]

I love when my opponent tutors their singleton deck 3 times in one turn for their infinite combo wincon :/

[@itsareynolds349]

Where is the Discord link?

[@IHateYourDeck]

Our Patreon auto adds you! Message us on Patreon so we can help send you instructions. Sometimes disconnecting and reconnecting Patreon to discord helps if you are already connected.

[@I3yrnMtg]

Great stream today!!

[@Butthog]

Ayli should have lost 6 life from targeting the witch. Ward is a triggered ability that would trigger twice because of roaming throne.

[@JewelMcCool]

Lol I feel like Ayli brought the deck that would finally beat Larry and just ended up torturing Lynch n crew cuz Larry wasn't even there to beat

[@gunnarmiller5467]

Awesome game

[@RsDrPowers]

"I don't have to choose until it resolves" you have to choose your target for the spell to go onto the stack, then you have to hold priority in order to cast reiterate.. what you did was soft cheating.

[@landfilltarantulas4403]

How high is Ayli here?

[@krazoanfox]

I'm bakes fucking spuds

[@Mythillian1450]

Well, this definitely made sure I never make a Izmagus deck. That's not a fun experience

[@emanueltalavera4175]

@29:43 ward triggers twice because of the roaming throne… soooooooooooo misplay. All that pause explaining rules just to miss one so simple

[@0n3BadDay]

I've missed Ayli.

[@jakobwithak930]

Whwy did ayli take life for casting mystical tutor?😅

[@xXNadoGaminXx]

First again!!!! Love you guys and love your videos!!

[@IHateYourDeck]

You rock!

[@pixlmaster123]

Ayli kinda isnt a vibe

[@JJG1666]

Lynch said the thing

[@letswatchification]

I love judith, built her myself and shes diiiiiirty

[@rrjr68]

I want Ayli and Lynchs deck list for this episode

[@jw5870]

Unless I'm mistaken, that info is provided to their patrons on Patreon.

[@sjefdebelg3630]

Stoney's Commander

[@dirtdealer6813]

I'm a patron and can't watch early??

[@JajaYms]

Adams apples are cool.

[@Mad.Edd.702]

Let's go 🎉🎉

[@lostgenius]

Oh great, this guy is back.

[@Kashakunaki]

Really dragging your games through the mud with all this extra attention to the ridiculously complex mechanisms of Magic. I watch this show for the fun LGS experience, not for a mini-tutorial on phase sequences and priority resolutions.

[@PwrlvlMTG]

That may be your opinion but I find it fun and honestly interesting when they go into depth of fun and not so popular rulings and mechanics, all magik is fun magik

[@lucatirelli545]

"complex mechanism"? Play yugioh and let US have fun, kid

[@Rylo-Kev]

It was also amusing that after 34:10 Lynch reminds Ayli about day & night and she says it doesn't matter because that creature is dead. No no no. You introduced the day & night mechanic to the game which NEEDS to be tracked for the remainder of the game regardless if there is a permanent in play that cares about it. You don't get to play the control deck, be the judge of the table AND arbitrarily decide when rules no longer apply. But hey, we're all human and shit happens. It's just a game after all.

[@melacsirrah198]

And in regards to the opinion on the other side of this coin. I find it really neat to see as someone who doesn't play Magic because it explains more of the game to me. Sure, there are a number of mentioned phases where they do nothing but being able to see the complexity of a card game I don't play is kinda cool

[@jonathanadams1714]

Maybe the sponsor needed an hour run time

[@Singles_and_Sealed_by_Maik]

magic is investet

[@Goku1g]

what the fk is with the emphasis on stage changing now? Lets not do that, its boring AF! Moving to combat, any triggers? Moving to MP2 any responses? Stop that, boring AF, makes games last 10x longer, if people wanna respond, they'll respond...

[@BelieMyBurial]

there is emphasis on it now cause there's a control deck at the table lol

[@krazoanfox]

Its extremely important for playing control. I'll do that off camera too. As a control player. You need to know where you're at in the turn.

[@ForeskinClippings]

Then just don't watch, that's how magic is played

[@gameronline9414]

Blue players playing solitaire....

[@theofficialtylotic3698]

It’s so good to see Ayli back and doing well. I’m happy that she had fun.

[@pierpaolomercurio]

Yaaaaay Ayli is back. Nice to see everyone having fun

[@ignacioalmonacid6153]

Is it me or Ayli looks like she could use a nap? Her eyes look bloodshot. Hope she's doing fine. Loved the episode!

[@IHateYourDeck]

I think she smoked lots of green. That hobbit leaf got them eyes red lol.

[@df5343]

I mean it's literally written insomniac on her forehead 😂

[@kamilgaisin2868]

​@@IHateYourDeckseems like the time of your life - playing paper magic with friends, resolving inf mana loop, winning the game and all that after a big ol puff

[@ignacioalmonacid6153]

@@IHateYourDeck LOL!

[@getchucked7401]

Oh boy, izzet storm. So boring.