"I Hated Playing With Watson"

[@nickcurran3105]

What a time, what a country. L.A. in 1982 may have been peak America

[@tourbackspin]

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[@scotttyson7970]

Yep.

[@scotttyson7970]

Putting

[@Charles-t7z]

Well for you young folks maybe. There was a 'peak America' before you showed up.

[@gturcott1]

@@nickcurran3105 it was pretty sweet I spent my summers there as a kid and I thought I was in paradise.

[@accridelich7369]

During Ben Hogan's anonymity, he used to complain to Valerie at night, after each day's competition, that he just could not make any putt as that was keep him from winning. Valerie got tired of hearing his complaining & barbed him with a comeback, "then why don't you hit the ball closer to the hole so you don't have to make long putts." That was his epiphany. From then on, he started implementing backspin to stop the ball near the cup. Then he started winning. Behind every great man there is a .....

[@tourbackspin]

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[@stevetilk4926]

With Vin Scully calling the match. What a treat.

[@tourbackspin]

Takes you back, doesn't it. I do a Substack newsletter, called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@jeffkessel669]

Thanks for showing us the finish. 🤪

[@tourbackspin]

These clips were made for a newsletter on Substack that I do called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Here's the clip of the playoff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8 Thanks for watching.

[@bb57365]

@@jeffkessel669 Had the pleasure of meeting him. Was so nice to my kids. At a Senior event. Good guy.

[@alancumming6407]

Johnny Miller was a wonderful ball striker. I was lucky enough to see him once at the Open. His iron play was incredible.

[@cameronlawoffices898]

In ‘73-75 Miller was an excellent putter with that Bullseye putter. He started doing heavy lifting and the putter left the building.

[@darrinlygrisse5287]

Miller in his prime was arguably the greatest iron player ever. Horrible putter. Tom in his prime was a great putter and inconsistent with the full swing. Watson was mentally tougher too. Watson admits he didn’t become a great ball striker till later in his career, then his putting left him. That’s golf.

[@1362pc]

Hogan was the GOAT iron player...by far

[@tourbackspin]

Good analysis. If you're into the history of the tour from this era, check out my Substack newsletter called "Tour Backspin" at larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@darrinlygrisse5287]

@@1362pc maybe. But “by far”? The legend is bigger than reality. A lot of people back then thought Nelson was better, Sneed too. Miller, love him or hate him, was so dialed in he used to ask his caddie for 1/2 yard increments on his yardages. His short game was always a wreck.

[@johnflorio3576]

Tiger Woods is the greatest iron player of all time.

[@tonybourke4946]

Simple best iron player Denis Irwin

[@markhuru]

Holy crap, I went to the la open 3 times in the 90’s early 2000’s there was nobody there, like people in la didn’t care about golf

[@PirateRemy]

A better ball striker ? Watson has more PGA Tour wins and more Majors so that is physical evidence Watson was better. Maybe in Johnnys head he was better, but not reality.

[@tourbackspin]

Ha! You're so right. Johnny seemed a little bit bitter about that loss. If you're into the PGA TOUR from this era, check out my free weekly Substack newsletter "Tour Backspin" at larrybaush.substack. Thanks for watching.

[@jaybee7890]

Ignorant comment from pirate.

[@marknorris1381]

Miller probably was the better ball striker. What he's saying here is Watson knew how to score. Watson was one of the great scramblers on the tour during his time at the top. Miller wasn't even close to Watson at the scoring end after his putting went pear shaped. That was the difference. Near impossible saves became known as 'A Watson par' because Tom Watson was such a great scrambler during that period, that's one of the main reasons why he was on top between 75 - 83.

[@lloydsingline340]

Tom won 9 majors was it ( 5 Opens ),Johnny Miller 2?

[@lloydsingline340]

​@@marknorris1381Any one that can win 5 Opens is a legend.Tom Watson was no scrambler but he was one of the best putters to ever play.

[@fleegerbriggs5694]

Nobody running around screaming is so refreshing.

[@tourbackspin]

Yeah, but you still have rainbow wig guy. If you're into the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s, check out my free newsletter on Substack called "Tour Backspin" at larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@fleegerbriggs5694]

Right. The John 3:16 guy. But that was at least civilized and non-disruptive.@@tourbackspin

[@TSK24692]

Maybe he didn't like playing with Watson because he kicked his ass. j/k. I remember this tournament. Watson holed a very long putt on the 17th hole to pull within one (or was it during the playoff to win?). I remember all this because I was a big-time Watson fan. Johnny Miller's swing.....beautiful, but about as unfriendly for your back as I've ever seen!

[@tourbackspin]

I think you're correct about the reason he hated playing Watson. If you're into the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, check out my "Tour Backspin" newsletter on Substack. It's free at larrybaush.substack.com

[@paul-u2y9y]

The best golfer i ever played with used to say " Miss it high , you'll make it "

[@TerlinguaTalkeetna]

Exactly, the low side is miss everytime, the higher handicap player misses low most every time!

[@tmo4330]

The high side is called the winning side.

[@rhscnative]

Both players would have been better without those reverse C finishes. Watson said in his "Lessons of a Lifetime" series that this definitely hurt his ball-striking. That was the style then though.

[@TSK24692]

This is one of the reasons why Jimmy Ballard became so famous, at least for a little while. His teachings got rid of all that "drive with your legs" stuff. Seve's swing took the reverse C to the extreme.

[@2Thes22]

Miller was the better player from 1973-1976 and then he didn’t win for 3 years. He made a comeback from 1980-1983 but he wasn’t as good as previously. Watson was at his peak 1977-1984.

[@Donald-my3oo]

Tom Weiskopf was a great player and man

[@ngc-fo5te]

Steady on.

[@bb57365]

Watson smashed it in the hole.

[@jamesa5720]

Well, I guess we will never know what happened.

[@tourbackspin]

These clips were made for a newsletter on Substack that I do called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Here's the clip of the playoff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8 Thanks for watching.

[@grantguitarcovers]

But why not show it to conclusion? I mean really? ​@@tourbackspin

[@brentjohnson9771]

I have Watson as #4 all time, ahead of Palmer and Snead. Miller not in top ten.

[@dave55ides]

I have him as #4 of my time. Ahead of Player but behind Palmer. Really close though - each had a favorite Major, each stopped winning Majors young, and each had multiple opportunities they threw away. I gave it to Palmer because he changed golf and made the Open important to all golfers again. But it’s very close.

[@steveperry1344]

the guy won the british open 5 times.

[@marknorris1381]

Yes, Miller doesn't figure in the 'best of the games greats' list. He could have had he not had the troubles he did with the putter. Although it's only one round, his closing round when he won the US Open probably still stands as one of the greatest rounds of professional tournament golf though.

[@whenmullet2674]

Watson wins on the 3rd playoff hole draining a 40 footer for birdie, Miller misses a 12 footer to tie.

[@jackmundo4043]

Watson also beat Miller in a playoff for the 1979 Colgate Hall of Fame Classic at Pinehurst No. 2.

[@tourbackspin]

@tourbackspin These clips were made for a newsletter on Substack that I do called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Here's the clip of the playoff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8 Thanks for watching.

[@Karl_with_a_K]

What a Choke from Miller! Every putt short.

[@tourbackspin]

Yeah, bogey, bogey finish is brutal. If you're into the history of the tour from this era, check out my Substack newsletter called "Tour Backspin" at larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@jeffking887]

That Rainbow Hair Guy was everywhere in those days

[@tourbackspin]

Yeah, that brought back memories for me as well. If you're into the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s and 80s, check out my Substack newsletter, "Tour Backspin" that comes out every Thursday and is free. larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@beamon68]

Rockin' Rollen Stewart had a dark side (surprise, surprise lol)

[@74900kdw]

What is the point of this. If it's to piss off the viewer you hit the bullseye. If I see the name Larry Baush on a video in the future I will never click on it. First and last time viewer on this channel. What a joke!

[@tourbackspin]

The point of this video is it was embedded in the newsletter "Tour Backspin" on Substack as part of a story on the 1982 Glen Campbell Los Angeles Open. Using KZbin to embed the video is the easiest way to use the video. My intention was not to get views, and frankly, I'm surprised by how many views the video has gotten. I also embedded the video of the playoff. If you want to see the article in the Tour Backspin newsletter, and see the playoff, it is here: larrybaush.substack.com/p/i-hated-playing-tom-watson

[@DaveStarks-ku2jd]

Maybe you should thank this guy for putting out the video

[@Drums-yz4ss]

Just happened on this. Of course Johnny Miller is going to miss a 12 footer. Bad putting drove him off the tour.

[@Charles-t7z]

Tiger would have made Miller's chip and left Watson talking to himself.

[@tourbackspin]

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[@mattcorcoran7082]

And then he would have walked on the water hazard.

[@usmcforever7630]

Watson the winner. Last hole Watson makes a 35 ft birdie putt and Miller misses a 12 ft birdie putt to lose the playoff.

[@tourbackspin]

@tourbackspin These clips were made for a newsletter on Substack that I do called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Here's the clip of the playoff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8 Thanks for watching.

[@JacobDaniels63]

Miller was caught between eras with putting…he crouched at it like the old era but at 6’2 he should have stood tall and done the pendulum….Miller would show up better today with modern putting knowledge and technology ……but Watson was totally awesome ❤

[@tourbackspin]

Great point, @JacobDaniels63. If you're into the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, check out my weekly Substack called "Tour Backspin". larrybaush.substack.com

[@jejona6989]

Who won?

[@tourbackspin]

These clips were made for a newsletter on Substack that I do called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Here's the clip of the playoff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8 Thanks for watching.

[@Pronzini1]

Watson was wayyyyy better than Miller....Miller couldnt putt

[@ryankissee4333]

Johnny Miller missing putts, you don’t say?

[@tourbackspin]

Ha!

[@MrKlwright]

I believe Tom Watson was the greatest ball striker ever

[@ngc-fo5te]

You can believe what you want - even though your belief is incorrect.

[@peterrukavena4955]

He’s in the top five, not sure about best ever

[@breadguysgolf]

Millers short game wasn't the best, in his words

[@tourbackspin]

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[@jonser20cent68]

No comment.

[@tourbackspin]

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[@michaelobrien5958]

😂may the best win. 😅

[@tourbackspin]

🤣 These clips were made for a newsletter on Substack that I do called "Tour Backspin" that covers the history of the tour in the 60s, 70s, and 80s. You can find it at larrybaush.substack.com. Here's the clip of the playoff: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8 Thanks for watching.

[@tonymurray814]

What was the point of this stupid video when it never showed the end. Absolute BS!!!👹

[@tourbackspin]

Thanks for watching, @tonymurray814. This video was made to support an article in my weekly Substack called "Tour Backspin" and if you are into the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, you should check it out. Here's the link to the story the video supported: larrybaush.substack.com/p/i-hated-playing-tom-watson. Also, posted on the same day, was the result of the playoff with highlights and you can watch that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8

[@MrYuk-lm3xp]

ANNNNDDD???

[@tourbackspin]

Thanks for watching, @MrYuk-lm3xp. This video was made to support an article in my weekly Substack called "Tour Backspin" and if you are into the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, you should check it out. Here's the link to the story the video supported: larrybaush.substack.com/p/i-hated-playing-tom-watson. Also, posted on the same day, was the result of the playoff with highlights and you can watch that here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aqWunox3hLZ6fK8

[@drewspinoso4849]

Maybe you should have stayed home and played with yourself.

[@blairsterling6141]

Johnny Miller ruined his swing by lifting weights. Miller admitted this about a decade later, saying weights destroyed his flexibility.....Same thing happened to Tiger Woods.

[@tourbackspin]

Yeah, didn't that start with clearing his ranch in Utah? If you're into the history of the PGA TOUR during this time, check out my Substack newsletter called, "Tour Backspin" at larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@henrysawyer3262]

@@tourbackspin yes he was using an axe to chop trees and wood

[@tourbackspin]

@@henrysawyer3262 There's a lesson there, right?

[@henrysawyer3262]

@@tourbackspin of course..you lose flexibility for sure..use what god gave you..lifting light weights and cardio is fine

[@archibaldmccutcheon5884]

Didn't like either of these guys. Great players but both were kinda assholes.

[@tourbackspin]

🤣 That's funny. If you're into the history of the PGA TOUR in the 1960s, 70s, and 80s, check out my free weekly Substack called "Tour Backspin" at larrybaush.substack.com. Thanks for watching.

[@robcollins3649]

I was a better ball striker....lol is that why he won more events than you Miller...always about how good I was ..lol

[@tourbackspin]

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