"I Have A Lot of Friends At Starfleet Command, Captain!" Admiral Pressman

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April 5, 2063

April 5, 2063

5 жыл бұрын

Star Trek The Next Generation Season 7 Episode 12 The Pegasus

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@tricky1992000
@tricky1992000 4 жыл бұрын
when devoloping and testing illicit treaty breaking technology, always make sure you are doing it right on the border to the neutral zone....
@AzguardMike
@AzguardMike 4 жыл бұрын
best place to do it, under their nose
@mrmochay9222
@mrmochay9222 4 жыл бұрын
Best comment ever
@migliorstore4780
@migliorstore4780 4 жыл бұрын
This is a federation zone by far.
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 4 жыл бұрын
@@migliorstore4780 I think it was neutral space, at the least outside of both Federation and Romulan. Neither of them did the usual "you're entering the neutral zone" rhetoric.
@migliorstore4780
@migliorstore4780 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewPicklesTheDark What Picard do is right. Anyway, not all he choose not to do is right, fruitful, desirable. I mean, he should have learnt s bit more of self-respect. Learnt and reached from others.
@Monarchyman1
@Monarchyman1 4 жыл бұрын
Correction, you HAD a lot of friends at Starfleet Command. They’re going to be pretending they have no idea who you are.
@ocadioan
@ocadioan 4 жыл бұрын
Pressman? Never met him Barely even know the guy.
@scottythegreat1
@scottythegreat1 4 жыл бұрын
Now I know why the Federation banned Romulan mind probes.
@nick0875
@nick0875 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on if any of those friends are in Section 31, they might be able to pull some strings. Considering that the initial incident with the Pegasus got swept under the rug shows that someone at Starfleet Command was involved with the experiment.
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 2 жыл бұрын
@@nick0875 that went out the window when Picard decloaked in front of the Romulan ship. there’s no hiding that anymore, the whole account of the supposed mutiny and loss of the ship is now called into question leading to a guaranteed court martial or worse for him
@mastere6115
@mastere6115 2 жыл бұрын
@@bostonrailfan2427 Hmm, it's easy to brush something under the rug if only the side you run sees it, but it is basically impossible to brush something under the rug when the other side sees you themselves hahahaha. No way any Starfleet members would have gotten high enough in the Romulan government to make a difference, even section 31 hahahaha. (Also, this is me agreeing with you, just wanted to add this on as I found it funny)
@fruscht
@fruscht 4 жыл бұрын
Pressman: "I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command, captain." Picard: "I don't care. This is Star Trek, what happens in one episode, stays in one episode."
@robgyanisu312
@robgyanisu312 4 жыл бұрын
Unless it's a _two-parter._
@badopinionsrighthere
@badopinionsrighthere 4 жыл бұрын
@@robgyanisu312 Dun Dun DUN!!!
@Atom.Storm.
@Atom.Storm. 4 жыл бұрын
This isn't voyager bruh
@aubreywright5562
@aubreywright5562 4 жыл бұрын
*Laughs in Deep Space Nine*
@olavops1000
@olavops1000 4 жыл бұрын
The 2 season arc Dominion War: I'm sorry, what?
@gaarathesandslayer
@gaarathesandslayer 4 жыл бұрын
Romulan Operations Officer: "Captain. Federation Starship decloaking off the port bow!" Romulan Captain: "Raise shie- Wait, what did you say?" Operations Officer: "...Federation starship... Decloaking sir." Captain: "So, this is what it feels like..."
@TimpossibleOne
@TimpossibleOne 4 жыл бұрын
Nim Klingons have cloaks too
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimpossibleOne Well, regarding the scheming nature of the Romulans, I think they are quite used to decloaking ships in their vincinity...
@leximusmaximus4593
@leximusmaximus4593 4 жыл бұрын
Cringe meme lord strikes again.
@demonpride1975
@demonpride1975 4 жыл бұрын
@@TimpossibleOne yes but he is meaning it in the sense of being taken off guard like that.
@rileyk5228
@rileyk5228 4 жыл бұрын
Batman's a Romulan. Explains the ears
@trapical
@trapical 4 жыл бұрын
"Worf, send this detailed message!" [5 seconds later] "Worf, arrest them and get them off the bridge" Worf: "You know there are other people on this bridge that aren't busy at the moment..."
@Krystalmyth
@Krystalmyth 4 жыл бұрын
"Mr. Worf?" "Yes Captain....?" "..." "..." "Nuthin. Carry on." "Aye SIr~"
@jesusnthedaisychain
@jesusnthedaisychain 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Worf, when I want your three-fifths of an opinion, I'll give it to you!
@Galliao
@Galliao 4 жыл бұрын
So mutiny is it? Mr. Worf, shoot Mr. Worf.
@TheCharlesJackson
@TheCharlesJackson 4 жыл бұрын
@@Galliao DEAD at this and i read it in Picard's voice 😭😭😭😭
@crylittlesister6377
@crylittlesister6377 4 жыл бұрын
Picard: "Yes, and how many of them are in charge of security around here, Mr Worf?" Worf: "Good point."
@translucentorb
@translucentorb 4 жыл бұрын
"I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command." Well I should hope so, you're an admiral and work there.
@potsdam28
@potsdam28 4 жыл бұрын
translucentorb he means friends that will help him get away with his crimes and punish Picard for arresting him
@Raguleader
@Raguleader 4 жыл бұрын
Narrator: It turns out, he had no friends at Starfleet Command because all of his coworkers thought he was an asshole.
@cougarhunter33
@cougarhunter33 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raguleader I should add that narration was done by Morgan Freeman in my head.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
@@Raguleader No, it turns out he had "friends", but all of them thought it better that _he_ should take the blame for this, than _them._
@Chode1964
@Chode1964 4 жыл бұрын
@@cougarhunter33 I did the same thing but with Samuel L Jackson.( plus a few f bombs)
@ferros8215
@ferros8215 4 жыл бұрын
"Admiral Pressman, The first duty of every Starfleet officer is to the truth, whether it's scientific truth, or historical truth, or personal truth! It is the guiding principle on which Starfleet is based, and if you can't find it within yourself to stand up and tell the truth about what happened, you don't deserve to wear that uniform." Captain Picard
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
@Leo Peridot Riker: Did you order the code red? DID _YOU_ ORDER THE CODE RED?!?!
@ki5aok
@ki5aok 2 жыл бұрын
@@davecrupel2817 Pressman: "YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT I ORDERED THE CODE RED!!!!!"
@hawkstringfellow
@hawkstringfellow 2 жыл бұрын
Me to Picard after that speech, don't you lecture me on the truth, you self righteous son of a bitch your were not there on that ship when the crew mutinied!!!!!! Trust me and get off my ass!!!! If not you are not the man I thought you were Picard.... storms out
@squallofthedai
@squallofthedai 2 жыл бұрын
@@hawkstringfellow: Doesn't make Picard wrong
@justanotherdrunk
@justanotherdrunk 2 жыл бұрын
poor wesley
@GunnerM60
@GunnerM60 4 жыл бұрын
I love how many Starfleet Admirals think they can get away with anything they want, then starship Captains are like "Yeah...., nooo!"
@HDreaper17
@HDreaper17 3 жыл бұрын
An Admiral may run the fleet, but to his ship and crew turn captain is king
@danieldickson8591
@danieldickson8591 2 жыл бұрын
Well, exceptional starship Captains, anyway...
@rasikkom9605
@rasikkom9605 2 жыл бұрын
@@HDreaper17 Those idiots let that rank go to head so much that they forget that they still have to follow all the rules that they set.
@s.o.4339
@s.o.4339 Жыл бұрын
And it didn't even spare Janeway from becoming a d*ck after promotion (regarding "Endgame", VOY)
@ruffusgoodman4137
@ruffusgoodman4137 Жыл бұрын
Can't blame them, Kirk set a bad precedent to all admirals out there
@T-1001
@T-1001 4 жыл бұрын
"I have a cousin at Horse Guards sir and I have friends at court" "A man who loses the kings colours loses the kings friendship" Oops wrong show....
@richardschannel1000
@richardschannel1000 4 жыл бұрын
Now that's Star Trekking!
@vednar99
@vednar99 4 жыл бұрын
@@richardschannel1000 Hahah. Very nice!
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 4 жыл бұрын
I think that might have worked here. Picard was always one for metaphoric phrases.
@julonkrutor4649
@julonkrutor4649 4 жыл бұрын
@ŇøHă Ģ. Nice one
@JevansUK
@JevansUK 4 жыл бұрын
If I wipe the name I may wipe the shame
@Aleiza_49
@Aleiza_49 6 ай бұрын
"You're going to need them" That line always sends shivers down my spine, it's not often that you can hear and feel utter loathing for someone in Picard's voice. Sir Patrick is such a great actor ❤
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, but Picard was wrong. Pressman wasn't working alone - the phasing cloak was a skunkworks "Area 51" project. Starfleet provided the funding, the engineering, and the Pegasus in which to try it. In reality, Picard would have been removed from command and court martialed. By demonstrating the Federation not only had a cloak, but a material phasing cloak to boot, he single handedly cancelled the treaty he though he was trying to protect and informed the Romulans in no uncertain terms that a treaty with the Federation wasn't worth beans.
@24thCenturyBuff
@24thCenturyBuff 5 ай бұрын
Pressman does have friends though. He was only a captain during the Pegasus event yet the whole incident was swept under the rug. Now during the recovery, he's not acting alone and has the consent of other admirals and members of the Federation council. He's likely a member of, or operated by, Section 31. And it's those friends that will keep him out of the stockade even after the recovery incident. I personally think the treaty of Algeron should have been dissolved years before this. Think of the 'anthropological' research that could be achieved, visiting undeveloped worlds without exposure, not to mention the strategic military advantage. It's really quite a nonsensical and hindering contract despite the diplomatic overtures, especially considering the other 2 major powers (Romulan and Klingon) utilize them. Just my 2 cents.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
@@24thCenturyBuff Mostly agree, but the treaty was effective in keeping peace, something both sides but particularly the Federation very much wanted. Develop the cloak by all means, recover it and hide it if an accident happens, but keep it under wraps and keep the treaty intact. Keep refining it, but keep it undeployed until the time comes if and when there's another war with the Romulans or the Borg return. If there's never any need, the better, but it's great to have a back up plan.
@calvinjackson8110
@calvinjackson8110 5 ай бұрын
​@@ohger1that is based on the assumption that there is 100% no security leak. But there is always some crow who will open his big mouth.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
@@calvinjackson8110 Yes, the assumption is that the people for that project were chosen very carefully, and they also live in a time when Betazoids or other telepaths could determine if someone was likely to rat or whether they did. In any case, this story presupposes that the Romulans were totally unaware about the phasing cloak until the Enterprise decloaked in front of them.
@lightyagami1752
@lightyagami1752 10 ай бұрын
The one thing missing from this episode is a scene with the Romulans showing blank shock when the Federation starship decloaks right next to them. I would love to have seen that.
@CharlesUrban
@CharlesUrban 6 ай бұрын
"Now wait just one backstabbing minute! _We're_ supposed to be the sneaky ones around here!"
@WayneKeen
@WayneKeen 6 ай бұрын
@@CharlesUrban I suspect they already knew what they were looking for, and were probably only amused when it was revealed to them.
@MrArcadia2009
@MrArcadia2009 6 ай бұрын
I agree. Shocked look would have been more valuable than gold.
@primetimemonkyhours743
@primetimemonkyhours743 5 ай бұрын
“JESUS, WHERE DID THEY COME FROM”
@MrArcadia2009
@MrArcadia2009 5 ай бұрын
@@primetimemonkyhours743 LOL!! 🤣
@freedomfightre
@freedomfightre 4 жыл бұрын
Riker: I'd also like to be arrested. Picard: If you insist...
@uruiamnot
@uruiamnot 4 жыл бұрын
Make it so, Number 1.... er... Ensign Riker
@nicolasg7601
@nicolasg7601 4 жыл бұрын
Alistair Blaire At least he regrets his actions, he follows through on the command to de-cloak.
@josephridler-em5pk
@josephridler-em5pk 4 жыл бұрын
Picard face was like ffs will shut up nearly had u off bro
@mikeymcmikeface5599
@mikeymcmikeface5599 4 жыл бұрын
@@alistairblaire6001 Surprising that wrapping things up happened at the end.
@hardwirecars
@hardwirecars 4 жыл бұрын
5th amendment riker you dont have to incriminate yourself idiot!
@Chrissummerill
@Chrissummerill 4 жыл бұрын
‘I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command’, famous last words of Admiral Janos Pressman before Picard beheads him in front of the crew.
@guywithdacap4713
@guywithdacap4713 4 жыл бұрын
It's not the mirror universe! ;)
@sargon6000
@sargon6000 4 жыл бұрын
Did Picard use a guillotine?
@MrDibara
@MrDibara 4 жыл бұрын
"Take Admiral Pressman to the holodeck. Number 1, bring me my sword."
@jmm1233
@jmm1233 4 жыл бұрын
Picard isn't that Klingon
@denelson83
@denelson83 4 жыл бұрын
Eric Pressman.
@VonSnootingham
@VonSnootingham 2 жыл бұрын
Picard: "Disengage the cloaking device." Pressman: "You cannot do that!!" Picard: "Don't tell me what I can't do!" Pressman: "Hey... that's a good line."
@Enrahb
@Enrahb Жыл бұрын
This comment has been here for more than a year. It deserves much more acclaim that it has been given. Bravo!
@falkenjeff
@falkenjeff 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I was wondering why I recognized him.
@campagnollo
@campagnollo 2 ай бұрын
I’m lost. Where did that come from?
@bananashiprepublic7022
@bananashiprepublic7022 Ай бұрын
@@campagnolloThe actor was the bald guy in LOST and looks like he was on The walking dead at some point too so maybe one of those two shows
@tim_is_random
@tim_is_random Ай бұрын
@@bananashiprepublic7022Lost. John Locke.
@LordNodim
@LordNodim 2 жыл бұрын
"You're going to need them" made Piccard sound leagues scarier than Admiral Pressman
@SamaritanPrime
@SamaritanPrime 2 жыл бұрын
Picard is frenemies with a god, after all.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 2 жыл бұрын
@@SamaritanPrime Picard's real ace-in-the-hole isn't an omnipotent Q. It's the old groundskeeper at Starfleet Academy - when Boothby speaks, Admirals listen.
@ohger1
@ohger1 19 күн бұрын
@@pwnmeisterage Boothby got his power by bugging the Admiral's bed chambers and extorting them.
@MRJK87.
@MRJK87. 4 жыл бұрын
Captain: "Are you in charge here?" Admiral: "Ye-" Captain: "NOPE"
@DiRF
@DiRF 4 жыл бұрын
Admiral: "Listen, pal, I don't know if you realize who-" Captain: "I'm sorry, Admiral, what was your name?" Admiral: "Pressm-" Captain: "NOBODY CARES."
@MRJK87.
@MRJK87. 4 жыл бұрын
@@DiRF actually I think in this case it would have been "SHUT UP ADMIRAL"
@NitpickingNerd
@NitpickingNerd 4 жыл бұрын
Do you feeeel in charge?
@WNShadow814
@WNShadow814 4 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerd lol brilliant
@aggroknight4259
@aggroknight4259 4 жыл бұрын
DiRF *deeply inhales "Inthestructureofasequentially-rankedsocialheirarchy, theintellectualdifferencesbetweenusistoovasttoquantify! ...Number one?" "The captain thinks you're basic."
@MASSEFFECTfan101
@MASSEFFECTfan101 4 жыл бұрын
Riker explaining what happened to the Pagasus is pretty terrifying. Half the ship rematerialized in solid Rick, and so did half the crew. It a horrible way to go.
@nunya3163
@nunya3163 9 ай бұрын
Who had it worse, the ones that materialized in the rock, dying instantly, or the ones that materialized in the open space of the ship, without shelter, water, or food?
@evm6177
@evm6177 6 ай бұрын
Or even cooler, those that got fused to the rock and the ship itself once it de-clocked and instantly got crushed! Ode to an old myth of the 'Philadelphia experiment' google it.
@divinedoodoo
@divinedoodoo 6 ай бұрын
Man I'd hate to be Rick
@tarn1135
@tarn1135 5 ай бұрын
@@divinedoodooyou win. But on a different note it’s obvious those that died instantly had it better, however before the cloak failed they were watching it happen. I assume only a few of them saw it on their panels that it was failing and those that were working on the relays and other things did see coming so for the, it was quick and, again I assume, painless.
@jdb2002
@jdb2002 5 ай бұрын
Weren't those on the ship already dead when the cloak failed? I don't think they would drift aimlessly for 12 years.
@class87fan54
@class87fan54 4 жыл бұрын
I can see why Picard ordered the cloak to be disengaged in front of the Romulans. He knew that if they just snuck out, Pressman's friends would sweep the incident under the rug and carry on with the cloaking device, but if the Romulans knew, then those that were in on the experiment would be rumbled and couldn't deny it.
@Avalanche041
@Avalanche041 4 жыл бұрын
Even more than that. Trying to use their connections to get Pressman off the hook would mean risking their own careers as well.
@michaelm3691
@michaelm3691 4 жыл бұрын
Idealism is great, but when you're playing with the lives of billions, you need to be pragmatic too. Punishing Pressman is not more important than the survival of your species.
@JustinStrife
@JustinStrife 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelm3691 I'm with you there.
@JindraAG
@JindraAG 4 жыл бұрын
Picard is many things. Enough that he should have been made admiral a while ago, so think of the subtle political and diplomatic power he can wield.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
@@michaelm3691 That just means that the treaty of Algeron was a mistake. But if you've made such a mistake, you can't just go around breaking it either, at least not unless you're in a situation where it's your only chance of survival. In all other situations, and particularly in peace time, you _have_ to either not strike such a deal at all (which is what the Federation should have done) or work around it.
@Psiros
@Psiros Жыл бұрын
It's a good thing Riker ran that holographic simulation of Archer's crew. Otherwise, he wouldn't have known what to do.
@waynepalumbo8917
@waynepalumbo8917 8 ай бұрын
I thought it was cool that his 'part' in the holo-program was "Chef", who you never actually meet. Though I don't really like that they made the entire thing part of a TNG episode, kind of cheapened it a bit. Like if the show Picard ended with Q being like "just kidding, Jean-Luc - you're still at Farpoint." And the entire series reboots back to that first scene.
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 5 ай бұрын
@@waynepalumbo8917 They got robbed of one or two additional seasons where they could have played out the events until the founding of the Federation properly. Reviewing them from an external perspective wasn't the worst choice for an "emergency end" of the show, IMHO.
@waynepalumbo8917
@waynepalumbo8917 5 ай бұрын
Not saying it was the worst, just dissapointing. @@TheRealWormbo
@ScorpiousD
@ScorpiousD 4 жыл бұрын
...The respect that Picard has for Riker by admitting his faults and owning up to them.
@EarlJohn61
@EarlJohn61 3 жыл бұрын
"I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command, Captain!" "So have I. How do you think I got this Chardonnay position, after losing the Stargazer"
@corinth492
@corinth492 Жыл бұрын
Given the amount of times Picard takes on Admirals in TNG, he must definitely have some friends in high places
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 4 ай бұрын
It was established that Admiral Satie is the one who authorized Picard to take command of the Enterprise.
@mariuszmiroslaw2290
@mariuszmiroslaw2290 2 ай бұрын
Benjamin Sisko ;-)
@captpicard6894
@captpicard6894 4 жыл бұрын
Still one of my favorite TNG episodes. Brilliant back story, Picard showing that he’s the REAL Admiral here in terms of authority and charismatic Leadership.
@ohger1
@ohger1 19 күн бұрын
In reality, Picard totally effed The Federation. His pettiness accomplished three things - ended the treaty that kept them in peace (duh), showed a megaweapon that the already paranoid Romulans should fear, and that any future treaty with the Federation isn't worth the paper it's printed on (assuming they used paper for traditional treaty reasons).
@TheFluffyDuck
@TheFluffyDuck 4 жыл бұрын
When I was a young kid I was blown away by the techno jargon hoping one day to understand it. Now I have a PhD and I am laughing my arse off, it’s soooo good!
@Digitaaliklosetti
@Digitaaliklosetti 4 жыл бұрын
Someone once told me Star Trek becomes hilarious if you accept "Tachyon" as slang for semen
@404_profile_not_found
@404_profile_not_found 4 жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time their solution to a problem is to modulate shield harmonics, reroute power somewhere or use the deflector dish. They should always just start with those 3 and then go from there.
@abczdad
@abczdad 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need a PhD to understand this stuff man...
@dojokonojo
@dojokonojo 4 жыл бұрын
What about the technobabble on Voyager?
@paladinboyd1228
@paladinboyd1228 4 жыл бұрын
dojokonojo, Mostly means I need more coffee, black!
@aaronh9653
@aaronh9653 4 жыл бұрын
I love how Picard and Pressman are both witnessing the Enterprise pass through the rock with two very different emotions. Pressman looks so smug and self-righteous in the belief that he’ll be vindicated while Picard looks on in horror as he sees part of the dream of the Federation die with every kilometer they pass through the rock.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 2 жыл бұрын
What dream of the Federation? To be constantly get screwed over and eroded away with every terrible treaty?
@lenkagamine4145
@lenkagamine4145 2 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper Further, to directly restrict technological development which is already in widespread usage by numerous foreign powers because they decided you shouldnt be allowed to?
@Darthquackius
@Darthquackius Жыл бұрын
except pressman is actually right, the treaty is absurd. The Klingons have cloaking. The Romulans have cloaking. The Ferenghi have stolen cloaking. GODDAMNED EVERYONE ELSE HAS CLOAKING! That treaty should never have been signed!
@VividBoricua
@VividBoricua 5 ай бұрын
@@lenkagamine4145 yes but in response Federation sensor technology is probably the best in the quadrant. We never hear about how good Romulans and Klingons are at finding cloaked vessels. We usually hear them asking the Federation to help actually. Federation sensor technology being higher than others also ensures that Federation science improves at a faster rate too. Thus, the Federation keeps an edge in general technology and does to the Romulan Empire what the USA did to the USSR.
@logicplague2077
@logicplague2077 5 ай бұрын
The Federation needs people like Picard, but because of their unwavering idealism they also need Section 31 to protect them from the rest of the universe that doesn't share their sense of right and wrong.
@SheldonAdama17
@SheldonAdama17 4 жыл бұрын
“Don’t tell me what I can’t do!” - Pressman
@Ghost-Mom
@Ghost-Mom 4 жыл бұрын
"It's a leap of faith Jack--er I mean Picard"
@KaraokeNig
@KaraokeNig 4 жыл бұрын
You beat me to it by one day :p Locke locking it up in the future
@hypnometal
@hypnometal 4 жыл бұрын
“He must have been a piss poor captain” - John Locke on Kirk’s penchant for losing redshirts.
@_Wai_Wai_
@_Wai_Wai_ 4 жыл бұрын
You can't handle the truth!
@magonus195
@magonus195 4 жыл бұрын
"We hunt boar" - Pressman
@verinonrenthar9176
@verinonrenthar9176 4 жыл бұрын
Admiral Locke: Don't tell me what I can't do!
@marcw6875
@marcw6875 2 жыл бұрын
This is what I was looking for. I had to scroll further than I thought I would have to in order to find it though. lol
@pjposullivan
@pjposullivan 2 жыл бұрын
Legend says that he's on an island in the pacific ocean that's also phasing in and out
@Jax975
@Jax975 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcw6875 I too had to scroll down too much to find this, kind of disappointed
@Mr_Archer
@Mr_Archer 5 ай бұрын
Riker owning his actions at the end amidst all the turmoil…so cool. Kurtzman should be ashamed at what he’s done with such an awesome pop culture legacy.
@Cenot4ph
@Cenot4ph 4 ай бұрын
Enabled by ESG mandates for inclusion and diversity regulations
@kanaric
@kanaric Ай бұрын
No tears as good as boomer tears.
@Electricfox
@Electricfox 4 жыл бұрын
Enterprise: *decloaks* Romulan: "Wait...that's illegal."
@takerdust
@takerdust 4 жыл бұрын
Admiral Sela: "I want to speak to your manager"
@mmjahink
@mmjahink 2 жыл бұрын
Enterprise shoots a text to the romulan "Yo sorry about that, I'mma send an email to the head office so no worries, please don't have follow up questions".
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 2 жыл бұрын
_username:Picard reported for hacks_
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
I'm calling the referee. Wait here.
@iainhewitt
@iainhewitt 4 жыл бұрын
Pressman: I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command, Captain! Picard: A man charged with breaching the most important treaty in the sector might find himself with fewer friends than he thinks.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 2 жыл бұрын
To be fair, screw the Romulans and their unfair treaties. For that matter, the same can be said of the Cardassians.
@mjbull5156
@mjbull5156 2 жыл бұрын
"Who do you think approved that project, Picard? Do you think I just did it on my own?"
@channell11
@channell11 2 жыл бұрын
A treaty that should never have been signed. You never give a potential enemy (or even a friend) such a huge tactical/technological advantage.
@igg3937
@igg3937 2 жыл бұрын
Admiral Pressman's best mates at Starfleet Command: "Yeaaahhh, we actually only ever said hello a few times in the mess hall...."
@billymorgan7717
@billymorgan7717 5 жыл бұрын
"You're going to need them."- Captain Jean-luc Picard
@JamesJ30t
@JamesJ30t 5 жыл бұрын
What really happened to admiral Pressman - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJPdpZeKlt5oeK8
@joelfinch2471
@joelfinch2471 4 жыл бұрын
Picard's such a badass.
@michaelstill6265
@michaelstill6265 4 жыл бұрын
@@JamesJ30t trash fake stupid video. Dont watch! Waste of time
@DarrenSemotiuk
@DarrenSemotiuk 4 жыл бұрын
...after waiting for the door to close so Vice Admiral Pressman can't hear his "brave" fightin' words...
@reelsoffortuneslotsplay4267
@reelsoffortuneslotsplay4267 2 жыл бұрын
I just noticed that one of the things Picard kept in his personal archive was the Captain Picard Day sign from the kids on his ship.... That item was in the first scene of this episode.... Simply put.. I think it reminds him that his word and the word of the leadership of the Federation can be and should be trusted...
@kevinborgan8544
@kevinborgan8544 2 жыл бұрын
I can understand why Starfleet did not use cloaking devices. Their mission is primarily peaceful exploration. But there are other races that do use cloaks and are not friendly with the Federation. Pressman was partly correct that the treaty gave the Romulans, et al, an advantage. IMHO, Starfleet should have the technology, but not use it unless in times of war, like with the Dominion.
@blueboy189
@blueboy189 4 жыл бұрын
Always loved how they could somehow see the inside of the rocks as they passed through the asteroid. Like it wouldn’t be pitch black
@donbrynelsen2157
@donbrynelsen2157 4 жыл бұрын
Enterprise had exterior spotlights with which it illuminated the Pegasus, maybe they worked the same way while phasing?
@blueboy189
@blueboy189 4 жыл бұрын
Don Brynelsen - maybe, but it sure looks like everything disappears when they apply that cloak!
@Qaianna
@Qaianna 4 жыл бұрын
Shame the special effects budget couldn't have swung something else ... after all, if they're phasing through the rock, wouldn't that mean the rock is also INSIDE the Enterprise? Wait, never mind. They could simulate that with the special effect of 'a lenscap'. But it may make for boring television ...
@ClickBeetleTV
@ClickBeetleTV 6 ай бұрын
There's no reason that the viewscreen couldn't false color the rock based on sensor readings.
@contscot
@contscot 6 ай бұрын
I always thought they should have had the rock coming inside the ship too.
@Turboy65
@Turboy65 2 жыл бұрын
Picard should have told Riker, "Agreed, but remain at your post. You shall remain on duty pending Starfleet's decision, based on good conduct and your own recognizance."
@Laeadern
@Laeadern 4 жыл бұрын
Picard is easily one of the most influential Starfleet Captains next to Kirk.... if anyone can stand against an admiral it would certainly be him.
@benjaminoechsli1941
@benjaminoechsli1941 4 ай бұрын
As he said in this very episode, he pulled quite a few strings to get the original court findings de-classified. He has his own friends. Pressman is toast.
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
"That's as far as you go sir!"
@mikej9470
@mikej9470 4 жыл бұрын
Other than Riker being arrested and ae never know what happens, this episode helps set up the events of Picard very nicely. Picard and the Romulans become besties from this episode forward, reinforced by Star Trek: Insurrection. At the end when the Romulans come to give aid to the battered Enterprise, Picard starts saying "they don't know our procedures.... just open the door."
@Doogie2K3
@Doogie2K3 Жыл бұрын
Also, this explains why Riker is still on the Enterprise-E until almost a decade later: those captaincy offers probably stopped coming in until the fleet was rebuilt after the Dominion War.
@jaredfetzer7041
@jaredfetzer7041 11 ай бұрын
Don't you mean Star Trek Nemesis for the Romulans.
@mikej9470
@mikej9470 11 ай бұрын
@@jaredfetzer7041 you are correct.
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 6 ай бұрын
​@@Doogie2K3Apparently he had been rejecting offers for captaincy since First Contact. The last episode of Enterprise shows Riker mulling taking charge of the first USS Titan and using Archer's experiences to help make his decisiob
@TheRealWormbo
@TheRealWormbo 5 ай бұрын
@@SantomPh Are you referring to the last Enterprise episode? I believe that one was actually placed in this very episode, with Riker trying to figure out if he should finally come clear to Picard about the cloaking device.
@31aruca
@31aruca 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone notice how, in DS9, Worf laments that he was weirder out being on a cloaked Defiant because he has never been on a cloaked starfleet ship?
@ClassicalCentral
@ClassicalCentral 4 жыл бұрын
It's an inconsistency yes, but I'd argue that the context plays a role here. The cloak in "The Pegasus" was used for all of about 90 seconds, while the Defiant's cloaking device was part of an agreement with the Romulan government. Plus, the cloak on the Defiant was used for the express purpose of passing through space undetected, while this one was for getting out of an asteroid. Still though, that should have been clearer :P
@31aruca
@31aruca 4 жыл бұрын
@@ClassicalCentral No where near as bad as "All Good Things" where the future Enterprise-D never initiated a Tachyon pulse in the Devron system; negating the entire paradoxical situation.
@potsdam28
@potsdam28 4 жыл бұрын
31aruca maybe he forgot? Or since this was briefly he did not count this one
@Raguleader
@Raguleader 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe the whole thing was hushed up to avoid a diplomatic incident. So Worf, ever the loyal Starfleet officer, makes sure to remind everyone he's never been on a cloaked Starfleet ship before.
@zacharyfett2491
@zacharyfett2491 4 жыл бұрын
potsdam28 This incident was most likely classified. So to common knowledge, the Defiant was his first cloaked ship.
@Archone666
@Archone666 4 жыл бұрын
Note: the Federation DID develop cloaking technology later on. But they did so without actually violating the treaty - most likely by openly discussing it with the Romulans. "Yeah... we're developing an anti-Borg vessel. An Escort class ship." "Is it going to have stealth technology?" "It's going to have EVERYTHING needed for fighting the Borg. Weapons, shields, cloaking, and fast engines." "And why should we trust you won't attack us with your new ships?" "Because we have a proven record of being trustworthy. And while we are technically expansionist, we do so through peaceful exploration and diplomacy." "Hmm... if you were in the habit of being devious and unscrupulous, we'd say you were lying. But... your track record DOES suggest that you really mean all that." "That's why we take such care with maintaining our good reputation. It's amazingly useful."
@DarkNova50
@DarkNova50 4 жыл бұрын
If I recall correctly, the Defiant used a cloaking device that was loaned to the Federation by the Romulan government.
@DaffyRoth
@DaffyRoth 4 жыл бұрын
@@DarkNova50 That it was.
@Blackberet122
@Blackberet122 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that what is called the "softpower" of a nation, you know the thing the USA is losing at an alarming rate.
@Archone666
@Archone666 4 жыл бұрын
@@Blackberet122 The U.S.A. lacks "softpower" because of its penchant for violating treaties, undermining foreign governments... basically, the U.S. government acts like the Romulan government.
@classicgunstoday1972
@classicgunstoday1972 4 жыл бұрын
The Defiant didn’t originally have a cloak. That came later on loan (initially included with female Romulan subcommander) from the Romulan government when the Dominion was discovered in the Gamma Quadrant by DS9
@Crazyasianman286
@Crazyasianman286 4 жыл бұрын
He who loses the fleets starship, loses the fleets friendship, Admiral
@SMAXZO
@SMAXZO 4 ай бұрын
Pressman: The fault was not mine..the mutineers must answer Picard: THE MUTINEERS ANSWERED WITH THEIR LIVES, ADMIRAL AS YOU SHOULD HAVE DONE IF YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF HONOUR! YOU LOST THE STARSHIP OF THE UNITED FEDERATION OF PLANETS! YOU DISGRACED US, ADMIRAL! YOU SHAMED US, ADMIRAL!
@Bitemis
@Bitemis 4 жыл бұрын
"I have a cousin at Horse Guards, sir, and friends at court."
@terrortorn
@terrortorn 4 жыл бұрын
+1 point for any Sharpe reference, anywhere, anytime.
@danielanderson3286
@danielanderson3286 4 жыл бұрын
Bitemis sharpes rifles
@bubo1
@bubo1 4 жыл бұрын
Yer goin' t'need 'em
@Dezdicardo
@Dezdicardo 4 жыл бұрын
A man who loses the king's colors loses the king's friendship.
@leeboy26
@leeboy26 4 жыл бұрын
A Sharpe quote on a Star Trek video? Now that's soldiering.
@darkguardian1314
@darkguardian1314 4 жыл бұрын
During all this, Riker was in the halo deck cooking meals for Enterprise NX-01
@taylormoore5098
@taylormoore5098 4 жыл бұрын
And was 40 lbs heavier
@tonebonebgky2
@tonebonebgky2 4 жыл бұрын
@@taylormoore5098 because it was part of the program the chef was 40 lbs heavier than Riker so he appeared so, easy. Why Riker and Troi appears older that's the hard one here.
@taylormoore5098
@taylormoore5098 4 жыл бұрын
@@tonebonebgky2 "Computer, make me chunky."
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
As silly as that is, it's much better than if he were going to, I don't know, make some mundane speech of little importance and just wanted to see what it was like to be like Barkley for a bit before doing so.
@ered203
@ered203 4 жыл бұрын
As an archeologist, Picard must be delighted at the implications of this technology in that field.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 4 жыл бұрын
NO. He was PISSED. The treaty of Algernon clearly states the development of stealth cloaking tech and anything related will be passed on by the federation. Everyone else has cloaking tech and used it to kill so many federation ships and outposts yet the treaty clearly states no the federation will not have such a device and definitely notna phase dimensional stealth cloak thats just OVERPOWERED as hell.
@ered203
@ered203 4 жыл бұрын
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE I get that. I saw the episode too. I was just doing some out of the box speculation. You need to try and relax a little. Maybe lay off the caffeine.
@thomasschulz2167
@thomasschulz2167 4 жыл бұрын
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE Actually the impression of the treaty given by cannon sources is that the treaty out right bans the federation from developing technology specifically to cloak a vessel. With the one exception in the case of mutual cooperation with the defiant and the delta quadrant. This technology could still be employed for archaeological studies, mining, and scientific development as the cloaking effect could be considered a byproduct in those purposes. I suspect this would be the case as there are numerous cannon cases where an item was intentionally pushed out of phase with the rest of reality producing a cloaking side effect that didn't violate the treaty of Algeron.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
@@thomasschulz2167 I like how you think.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
@Jason lol... I mean _good_ sci-fi shows _should_ be able to raise questions about ethics, politics, diplomacy, etc.
@fastest_mia
@fastest_mia 5 жыл бұрын
Imagine if they used this cloak in the Dominion war
@johnilarde8440
@johnilarde8440 4 жыл бұрын
Dominions will shit their pants!
@JesseBusman1996
@JesseBusman1996 4 жыл бұрын
In my headcanon, section 31 had it
@Vektorix28205
@Vektorix28205 4 жыл бұрын
@@JesseBusman1996 Section 31 DID have it; according to the post-Nemesis novels, the entire project was a 31 scheme all along. Admiral Pressman's "friends" at Starfleet Command was an oblique reference to 31, since 31 was essentially unknown outside the organization in 2371. Using the cloak during the war with the Dominion would likely have not had much impact, as it was simply a more advanced version of the normal cloaking device and 31 could assume with justification that the technologically advanced Dominion would have found ways to penetrate that cloak as well. 31 was more interested in eradicating the Founders via disease vector, which ideally wouldn't be traceable back to the Federation (Julian Bashir discovering the link - and his moral revulsion - was an x-factor they didn't predict).
@Locutus494
@Locutus494 4 жыл бұрын
@@Vektorix28205 "it was simply a more advanced version of the normal cloaking device" that's not even close to accurate... the phasing cloak was just that; it put the ship out of phase with normal space. It didn't actually cloak the ship at all, and was an entirely different technology.
@richardludwig3673
@richardludwig3673 4 жыл бұрын
Tom Poston - Nope, it would have TOTALLY changed the course of the war. A Federation fleet with a phase cloak could literally pass through a Dominion fleet without the, knowing, decloak in the heart of Cardassian territory and strike targets that were less defended because their ships were on the front lines. Had the Federation used the cloak, they could have had the Dominion begging for mercy within a week. Keep in mind, the Romulans had similar technology. Even if they held to the treaty with the Romulans, they could have negotiated to use it when the Romulans entered the war. Of course, nothing in the books is canon, so there’s no real evidence that Section 31 had the cloak, nor any evidence Pressmen or the project had anything to do with Section 31 vs. just being a black ops project under Starfleet Intelligence. This is my biggest issue with anybody trying to source the books - you might as well source “Bill’s Fanfiction”, because that’s all it is.
@sXeblues
@sXeblues 5 жыл бұрын
And to think, if Riker hadn’t spent all that time on the holodeck, taking to heart what happened with Trip Tucker, toward the end of the NX-01 era, he might never have come clean with Picard. Oh, wait. ;)
@CathrineMacNiel
@CathrineMacNiel 5 жыл бұрын
please don't :(
@NitpickingNerd
@NitpickingNerd 4 жыл бұрын
He also got so fat in his off time. Then beamed all that fat out before returning to the bridge
@IRMentat
@IRMentat 4 жыл бұрын
Nitpicking Nerd holographic fatty tissue. For effect.
@Stinger913
@Stinger913 4 жыл бұрын
Wait I don’t get it it’s been a while. What’s the oh wait for when he did come clean because of being in the holodeck
@raitchison
@raitchison 4 жыл бұрын
Here you go throwing a bunch of random words on the screen that make no sense because there definitely has never been a ST episode like that, definitely.
@maximussarcasticus1312
@maximussarcasticus1312 4 жыл бұрын
"I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command." And you'll make even more and exciting new friends in the brig
@ultron2099
@ultron2099 2 жыл бұрын
What REALLY surprises me is that they didn't just strip the cloaking circuits out of the thing and develop it as a phasing inducer. Make one hell of a defensive system. Literally blast 'Can't touch this' over their comms as the enemy attacks them. And although phaser may be useless, photon and quantum torpedoes would lose their phasing after they left the ship and should still be deadly.
@barneyrubble4293
@barneyrubble4293 5 ай бұрын
The cloak may be a side effect of the phasing and not removable, Since the matter is phased it is no longer interacting with other matter INCLUDING photons meaning it can't reflect light and is thus invisible. Incidentally this could also be why ships cannot fire while cloaked, because they are phased and unable to interact with other matter, which would be a MASSIVE defense buff to cloaking. (although obviously they found a workaround in one of the TOS movies so that's a plot hole or a different type of cloak.)
@kivimik
@kivimik 4 ай бұрын
@@barneyrubble4293 That's an interesting idea, but Star Trek IV and VI had already established that a cloaked vessel is solid: Gillian ran into the Bounty, a harpoon was deflected off the hull, and the Enterprise blew up General Chang's ship while it was cloaked.
@barneyrubble4293
@barneyrubble4293 4 ай бұрын
@@kivimik You're right, I forgot about that, same with Nemesis too I guess.
@CheshireCat-cm1si
@CheshireCat-cm1si 4 жыл бұрын
What he says: I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command, Captain! What I hear: Wait 'til my father hears about this...
@scottmatheson3346
@scottmatheson3346 4 жыл бұрын
"I have friends at court! Powerful friends!"
@XrandommonX
@XrandommonX 4 жыл бұрын
THE KING HIMSELF MADE ME A LORD
@KneelB4Bacon
@KneelB4Bacon 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm not questioning your integrity sir, I'm denying its existence."
@117thWing
@117thWing 4 жыл бұрын
One who loses the King's colours, loses the King's friendship!
@mavallor
@mavallor 4 жыл бұрын
Well I have a Hulk!
@Piterdeveirs333
@Piterdeveirs333 4 жыл бұрын
@@117thWing this is what I was looking for
@absolutedynamite4979
@absolutedynamite4979 2 жыл бұрын
The Enterprise using a temporary clocking device...priceless, but the Defiant using a permanent cloaking device, epic!
@lelonfurr1200
@lelonfurr1200 Жыл бұрын
it was on loan from the romulans
@kereminde
@kereminde 4 жыл бұрын
Admiral Pressman: "I have a lot of friends at Starfleet Command-" Janos Slynt: "Sir, let me save you some time, that never works."
@matthewlazarus121
@matthewlazarus121 4 жыл бұрын
Do Game of Thrones starships travel at Werp speed?
@kereminde
@kereminde 4 жыл бұрын
@@matthewlazarus121 Their horses certainly seem to.
@tonebonebgky2
@tonebonebgky2 4 жыл бұрын
It does if you're with section 31.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 3 жыл бұрын
@@tonebonebgky2 They're not in TNG.
@Wurzelknecht
@Wurzelknecht 2 жыл бұрын
I had my crew scan the comments for signs of Janos Slynt-references when I read the video title.
@canadanionerdo5434
@canadanionerdo5434 4 жыл бұрын
That one time John Locke didn't get his way
@Ghost-Mom
@Ghost-Mom 4 жыл бұрын
The dude had the worst luck and then he died, I'd say he rarely got his way.
@LaFaJe
@LaFaJe 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ghost-Mom Wasn't he already dead from the very beginning?
@JayPaulOfficial
@JayPaulOfficial 4 жыл бұрын
@@LaFaJe Nah maybe you misinterpreted the final scene, they weren't dead from the very beginning
@Ghost-Mom
@Ghost-Mom 4 жыл бұрын
@@LaFaJe not at all? he died in season 5, murdered by Ben. Anyone who tells you they were all dead from the beginning didnt pay attention to the show. it was only in certain scenes in s6 where they were dead in an afterlife.
@rocom
@rocom 4 жыл бұрын
Now he's just some sodding old man
@BasicShapes
@BasicShapes 4 жыл бұрын
Pressman: I have a lot of friends at Starfleet, captain! Picard, looking at Worf: *Palpatine voice _Wipe them out...ALL OF THEM_
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
Picard: "Execute Algeron 66."
@jamiestewart48
@jamiestewart48 4 жыл бұрын
DEW IT
@yusefendure
@yusefendure 4 жыл бұрын
Bahahahaha!!!!!
@alexcrayfish
@alexcrayfish 5 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to see the looks on the romulans faces, when the enterprise decloaked in front of them.
@MrCrazyrob666
@MrCrazyrob666 5 жыл бұрын
The Romulans kind of let them off a bit lightly here. I mean Worf sending them a message that the government would be contacted.
@bobpage6597
@bobpage6597 5 жыл бұрын
Its not the job of one Romulan ship to take matters into their own hands. Ambassadors and diplomacy takes over at this point.
@ahapka
@ahapka 5 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but did he have time to send the message before taking them to the brig?
@Joesolo13
@Joesolo13 4 жыл бұрын
The Romulans had already overplayed their hand. They trapped the enterprise and were now caught red handed, but they also had proof the federation violated part of the accord as well. Bringing this back was more valuable than blasting the Enterprise.
@duncanbuchanan3269
@duncanbuchanan3269 4 жыл бұрын
I would think twice before firing on a Galaxy Class Starship.
@DarkNova50
@DarkNova50 4 жыл бұрын
Considering all the sabotage, attempted sabotage, attempted murder, abduction, and treaty violations the Romulans consistently get away with, I'd say this one blip is pretty meager in comparison.
@ki_mkt
@ki_mkt 4 ай бұрын
Picard's line should've been a hardy laugh followed by "As do I, Admiral. As do I."
@ReadmanJ
@ReadmanJ 4 жыл бұрын
I just love how Picard is like "You're going to _need_ them" (Bitch)
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 2 жыл бұрын
Or more appropriately "(Prag)"
@Patton7790
@Patton7790 2 жыл бұрын
This show gave me so much solace. Good decent people working for a common good. Star Trek movies was like watching a nerdy a-team. I like Picard more and more and think he might be best as he doesn’t have Spock and McCoy for help. He does ask for advice but he’s got such a nice confidence in truth and justice.
@rkbkirin5975
@rkbkirin5975 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the cloaking device is consistent and similar to the one in TOS - something you could sling over your shoulder yet able to conceal an entire starship once you connect some wires to it : )
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 2 жыл бұрын
well, a nuclear powered submarine is powered by an amount of uranium so small that it would fit in a wastepaper basket, and that powers the submarine for 20 years (though we normally only take about 90 days of food with us. I personally have been underwater for 87 days straight.). :)
@TK-kl2by
@TK-kl2by 2 жыл бұрын
Picard: "... I'm placing you under arrest." Pressman: "Don't tell me what I can't do, ever!"
@SirJPat
@SirJPat 2 жыл бұрын
There is a 0% chance that cloaking device was destroyed. It’s sitting snug on a shelf at Section 31.
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
In a room full of wooden boxes no doubt.
@michaelmorris4515
@michaelmorris4515 2 жыл бұрын
The Treaty of Algernon is THE SINGLE DUMBEST THING in Star Trek Lore. It would be like the US and Britain signing a treaty in the 1920's to never develop submarines.
@neutrino78x
@neutrino78x 2 жыл бұрын
you know it's funny, a British surface admiral said we submariners are pirates. That's why British submarines often fly a pirate flag. lmao. (generally if an American submarine comes into port flying a pirate flag, it means they did something underway that they considered to be badass. Although they won't be able to tell you what it was because our missions are classified.) But in the 20s, it was in fact considered to make submarines illegal, because surface ships are basically sitting ducks to us. When somebody says they are in ASW -- anti-submarine warfare -- we say "what, you're a machinist's mate who works on the auxiliary seawater system?" lmao
@MrGoesBoom
@MrGoesBoom 2 жыл бұрын
The Treay was pretty much swiss cheese by this point in the series too, the Romulans had violated it like a drunken sorority girl at a frat party by this point and Starfleet knew....but the writers loved Status Quo is God at that point ( and considering how shit current Trek is, maybe we shouldn't judge them too hard. Also that quote about the druken girl and the frat is something I lifted from somewhere I can't remember, but it seemed fitting )
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 4 ай бұрын
Have to remember that there are many pacifist members of the Federation who are intellectuals and will destroy any non-pacifist arguments in a debate. They are the same ones that gave up Federation territory as concessions to appease the Cardassians when no such thing was even necessary to begin with. It would be great to have a series based entirely on the Federation council itself, showing how ugly it would get there with the daily debates.
@MadSpectre47
@MadSpectre47 3 ай бұрын
The REAL reason for the treaty is Gene insisting "the heroes don't skulk about cloaked".
@kanaric
@kanaric Ай бұрын
There is way dumber shit than this from that era. Part of why people whining about new stuff is so hilarious to me.
@greencello599
@greencello599 Жыл бұрын
Once the truth about the phase cloak came forward, Pressman lost all his credibility. Will had been carrying the guilt of what happened for 12 years. A number of the crew trapped in that rock were very likely his friends, even if he was just an Ensign. Probably a number of Ensigns like himself were apart of the mutiny. Will was more than willing to take responsibility for what happened as he was tired of all the lies surrounding the Pegasus. Pressman was already planning to start the experiments again with other like minded individuals. This Federation cloak wasn't the first of its kind in the galaxy. The Klingons and the Romulans worked on their own versions. The Klingons lost their prototype of a Bird of Prey that could attack while cloaked in The Undiscovered Country. Each new tech has flaws that can(and will) exploited in fiction. It was the flaw in an old Bird of Prey that allowed the Enterprise to end the threat of the Duras Sisters permanently.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
Do you think Pressman was working alone? He's not an engineer - he was put in charge of the "skunkworks" project by Starfleet. Starfleet funded the project, provided the engineering, and provided the Pegasus itself as a test bed. Picard threw the Federation under the bus by exposing the cloak to the enemy. The treaty he was trying to protect was now cancelled (if the Fed could break the treaty, so can the Romulans). The Romulans now know that signing a treaty with the Federation isn't worth squat.
@JanetStarChild
@JanetStarChild 4 жыл бұрын
Picard tells Worf to send a message, then immediately tells Worf to escort someone to the brig. ...This is why telecommunications and security were two different jobs on the previous Enterprise ships.
@mkvv5687
@mkvv5687 2 жыл бұрын
Plus he was at the helm. I think they were trying to set up a spinoff, "Worf: The Wonder Years", but the deal didn't fly.
@honestperson6280
@honestperson6280 4 жыл бұрын
This episode was directed by LeVar Burton.
@leximusmaximus4593
@leximusmaximus4593 4 жыл бұрын
How did he see through that visor to direct?
@handsomebrick
@handsomebrick 4 жыл бұрын
@@leximusmaximus4593 That's just a thing he found at Toys R Us.
@leximusmaximus4593
@leximusmaximus4593 4 жыл бұрын
@@handsomebrick makes sense
@feynmanwasagenius3482
@feynmanwasagenius3482 4 жыл бұрын
To be fair signing a treaty which stopped the federation from investigating a vital military tech was dumb af. He was portrayed as the bad guy in this episode but really the federation investigating such a vital tech makes total sense.
@matthewjones2095
@matthewjones2095 2 жыл бұрын
If china dev tech that stopped from entering there air space and the us promised we wouldnt any politician involed in that deal would never work again
@johndoeboston123
@johndoeboston123 2 ай бұрын
Completely true. Seeing this episode as a kid, it hit me: "Holy shit, the Federation is really falling dangerously behind."
@waynepalumbo8917
@waynepalumbo8917 8 ай бұрын
"You're going to need them" - Captain Picard is a badass.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
But Picard was also wrong.
@waynepalumbo8917
@waynepalumbo8917 5 ай бұрын
how so?@@ohger1
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
​@@waynepalumbo8917 Because Admiral Pressman did have friends at Starfleet. The phasing cloak was "skunkworks" Area 51 type project that required funding, physicists, engineers (Pressman wasn't), and the Pegasus test starship itself. Pressman would have been assigned to head up the project. PIcard would be in big trouble at Starfleet by summarily announcing to the Romulans that the Federation had broken the treaty and couldn't be trusted anymore. Terrible decision.
@waynepalumbo8917
@waynepalumbo8917 5 ай бұрын
k@@ohger1
@DragonMagi
@DragonMagi Ай бұрын
I think my favorite part of this is the fact that he just accepts being arrested and doesnt have a huge outburst or resist.
@Moadar
@Moadar 4 жыл бұрын
Romulan officer: Captain they said our government will be contacted about this Romulan Captain: Oh ok
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
Grand. We won't blow you out of the stars then.
@fishyc150
@fishyc150 4 жыл бұрын
"You may not 'star fleet command' me sir... no no... for I have friends at horse guards!"
@shinigami146
@shinigami146 4 жыл бұрын
I loved this episode along many, many of the TNG series.
@DanielHodgeVoice
@DanielHodgeVoice 4 жыл бұрын
"I have a lot of friends in starfleet command captain!" Admiral Pressman - 181 friends in common.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
I love how the Romulans and Cardassians get to violate treaties all the time without consequence, but the Federation has to pretend like its better than that.
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 4 жыл бұрын
That's what Section 31 is for, they'll do the dirty work necessary for idealistic fools like Picard to survive.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamcostigan91 The worst part is how one-sided these treaties are in the first place. The other side always benefits way too much compared to the Federation. The Dominion War is a great example of that. Countless dead, but just 1 Founder goes to prison and that's it.
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 4 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper It's the exact reason Spock's Terran Republic failed so spectacularly. When you're surrounded on all sides by hostile powers they will take advantage at the slightest hint of weakness. The idea that the Romulans, who have been attempting to destroy the Federation and the Klingon Empire constantly over the course of next gen should be treated as the wronged party here is laughable.
@InfernosReaper
@InfernosReaper 4 жыл бұрын
@@williamcostigan91 Yeah, there's making compromises for peace and then there's giving concessions just to put off fighting until later. The Federation probably hasn't made a good treaty since that one that allowed for 3rd party arbitration with the arbiter of choice.
@williamcostigan91
@williamcostigan91 4 жыл бұрын
@@InfernosReaper Yeah it might not be the enlightened 24th century human thing to do, but I would have been drinking that bloodwine right alongside Martok in the ruins of the Cardassian Central Command, as he said "Poetic Justice."
@guyweisz7811
@guyweisz7811 2 жыл бұрын
"I have a cousin at Horse Guard, and I have friends at court." Simmerson trying to intimidate Lord Wellington.
@SamaritanPrime
@SamaritanPrime Жыл бұрын
Basically the same result, too. Wellington & Picard: Oh no! Anyway…
@Tap-a-roo
@Tap-a-roo 8 ай бұрын
Hundreds of years later and Locke is still looking for his heart of the mountain.
@chrisridenhour
@chrisridenhour 4 жыл бұрын
great episode - one of the best
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786 5 жыл бұрын
This whole scene tell the story of section 31 behind it all.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 5 жыл бұрын
Nawwww not really
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786 5 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 look back at the original series episode the Enterprise incident where Starfleet had sent Kirk and Spock on undercover mission to retrieve a Romulan cloaking device. In the section 31 novel series cloak, it was revealed that Admiral Cartwright came up with the idea and he was a member of section 31. The treaty between the Romulan star Empire and Federation was never about peace but creating a buffer. The romulans still held a tactical advantage with cloaking technology. Starfleet and the Federation may play by the rules but section 31 wouldn't let something like this go unanswered or addressed. Also remember Admiral Pressman said, I have powerful friends.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 5 жыл бұрын
@@wa.a.s.nfa.2786 just because some admiral does something like disobey a order from Starfleet to make a phase cloaking device does not mean that section 31 is behind it. Just because a Klingon moon on praxis blows up out of nowhere does not mean that section 31. was behind. We will have to face the fact that all of these are just major coincidence until evidence shows otherwise and we will have to face the fact that they are admirals and officers in Starfleet other than section 31 who undermines the ideals and the values of the federation.
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786
@wa.a.s.nfa.2786 5 жыл бұрын
@@attiepollard7847 I'm not saying by any means that section 31 is behind every Cloak and Dagger aspect. But in this particular scenarios it is safe to say that it's a more darker clandestine operation than Starfleet intelligence. True enough there are some people in the hierarchy of Starfleet command that tend to take matters into their own hands with a concern security and safety of the Federation. But it's not unheard of of this being taken up by other Rogue elements. Section 31 has been behind a great many of things you would call less than lawful. This scenario with Admiral Preston could be part of a larger symptom or it could be just his own actions involve. But this Mission couldn't have been sanctioned just by one.
@attiepollard7847
@attiepollard7847 5 жыл бұрын
@@wa.a.s.nfa.2786 All I'm saying is not every major event is S31 Doing . That's like saying the CIA is being had everything and we are forgetting that we got other alphabets in our intelligence agencies like the FBI, NSA, DEA and US Marshalls who may have shady people in our organization's who do unlawful stuff.
@berenedain8427
@berenedain8427 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me think of Colonel Girdwood from Sharpe "Don't you horseguards me sir!"
@hplalakrs2001
@hplalakrs2001 6 ай бұрын
Great and subtle facial acting by Stewart. Even though this cloak is entirely against his principles as a Starfleet officer, Picard still can't help but marvel at the technological achievement of it.
@FinalFirebrand
@FinalFirebrand 2 ай бұрын
"...You're going to need them." SO GOOD.
@JacobAllen918
@JacobAllen918 5 жыл бұрын
This is a great scene.
@jackcoleman1784
@jackcoleman1784 4 жыл бұрын
The best part of this for me is the shit eating grin the admiral has while they're passing through the asteroid. He totally thinks it working proves his point and is expecting applause, a promotion, stock awards, and a ball washing when they clear the asteroid.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
In reality, Starfleet would support Pressman and be royally effing pissed at Picard for showing the Romulans the Federation couldn't be trusted with any treaty.
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
@@ohger1 he might end up with a ball washing alright...
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 19 күн бұрын
@@ohger1 Never happened. Instead, Picard became a 4 pip admiral, in canon.
@ohger1
@ohger1 19 күн бұрын
@@oldtwinsna8347 Yeah, in canon, but my comment specifically said "in reality". In fiction, our heroes can be whatever the writers want them to be, but in reality, what Picard did was seditious to the Federation even if it was well-intentioned - Star Fleet would have unceremoniously shot Picard out of a cannon..
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
Jesus Pressman takes being relieved very well. Keeps in with the lads and has the chats and bants
@PMW3
@PMW3 5 жыл бұрын
I would like to have seen the looks on the faces of the Romulans as The Enterprise decloaked
@krisdphillips
@krisdphillips 5 жыл бұрын
Probably filled their pants. A Galaxy class ship appearing out of thing air a few hundred meters from you is enough to scare the hell out of anyone.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
@@krisdphillips Kind of surprised they didn't immediately open fire. Since they had already threatened to blow up the asteroid, their weapons should at least have been semi-ready.
@novaiscool1
@novaiscool1 4 жыл бұрын
@@tarvoc746 plus the Federation would be committing a treaty violation as they are not allowed cloaking tek.
@tarvoc746
@tarvoc746 4 жыл бұрын
@@novaiscool1 I'm pretty sure that alone isn't grounds for opening fire without warning though. What I was trying to say is that in this situation, opening fire might not even have been a subject of rational consideration, but simply a gut reaction out of fear.
@Glenn7719
@Glenn7719 4 жыл бұрын
They knew what was on that ship, they knew by sealing that asteroid the only way out for the enterprise would be to use that technology. Im pretty sure they half expected it.
@captc0ck5lap60
@captc0ck5lap60 2 жыл бұрын
Pressman "I have a lot of friends at starfleet command, captain" Picard "Ooh, I'm shaking in my little space boots"
@VCYT
@VCYT 4 жыл бұрын
Wasn't that admiral once Lost on a mysterious island?
@deadNightwatchman
@deadNightwatchman 4 жыл бұрын
Apparently, the cloaking device's project code-name was 'Dharma Initiative'.
@blazerocker1734
@blazerocker1734 4 жыл бұрын
Nah. He once built a rocketpack, had it stolen a couple of times and then pulled off a rescue operation with a gyroplane over an exploding airship.
@aidanmcgrath911
@aidanmcgrath911 Ай бұрын
Jonathan frakes is an exceptional actor. I met him in 2019! He’s a legit nice guy.
@Brian6587
@Brian6587 4 ай бұрын
I always love it when he says "Admiral, I am hereby charging you with violation of the Treaty of Algeron. As Captain of the Enteprise I'm placing you under arrest". So cool to see a Captain put an Admiral in his place when he's wrong.
@nicholasmorsovillo2752
@nicholasmorsovillo2752 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that the Romulans didn't hail the Enterprise right away after seeing the ship decloak off they're starboard bow and I was even surprised the phase cloaking device still had power after being inactive for 12 years even if Pressman said it was still working when they recovered it from the Pegasus' engine room.
@Don113
@Don113 2 жыл бұрын
Probably because seeing a Galaxy-Class starship decloaking off their bow made them shit their pants. Takes some time to respond after that.
@ohger1
@ohger1 5 ай бұрын
The cloaking mechanism isn't self-powered, it's parasitic to any ship in which it's installed.
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
The Romulans know their place in this episode..
@collinsdarkwa281
@collinsdarkwa281 5 жыл бұрын
I remember this part
@Hatsuharu1987
@Hatsuharu1987 10 ай бұрын
I'm glad they watched the intercooler levels, thus preventing them from getting too high and blowing the entire relay system.
@CrniWuk
@CrniWuk 2 жыл бұрын
"I have a lot of friends at Star Fleet Command." Friends at Star Fleet Command : He will never reapear on the Show.
@RDSArcade
@RDSArcade 2 жыл бұрын
The accuracy of that comment is astounding.
@J.Artan6
@J.Artan6 4 жыл бұрын
This guy and Janos Slynt would get along great.
@kettch777
@kettch777 9 ай бұрын
I can just imagine that Romulan captain's reaction: "Commander, a Federation starship is decloaking off the starboard bow!" "They're doing WHAT?! That's supposed to be OUR thing!"
@oldtwinsna8347
@oldtwinsna8347 19 күн бұрын
Worst part is the Romulan starship commander trying to communicate this to headquarters. The Tal'Shiar observer would not believe it and instead assume the Romulan commander was trying to stir something up to destabilize the government.
@Jimmy-B-
@Jimmy-B- 4 жыл бұрын
Very noble of Riker
@hugjuffs
@hugjuffs Ай бұрын
I love the small detail of how Picard avoids conflict with the Romulans by saying their government will be informed about the incident shortly. He knows he shouldn't give a statement but needs to reassure them that what they saw was not alright and will be addressed. Now that's captaining.
@kaziu312
@kaziu312 3 жыл бұрын
Riker: "Imma go over to the holodeck for an hour and think about this." Troi: "Can I come too? I sense something climactic is going to happen." Riker: "Nah, I'm just going to put a TV series to bed."
@jackkenefick2696
@jackkenefick2696 Ай бұрын
"I'll met you in ten forward intermittently"
@razorheadinjapan73
@razorheadinjapan73 4 жыл бұрын
Picard: siding with the Romulans and revealing major Federation secret tech., as well as helping the BORG invade Federation Space....
@untruelie2640
@untruelie2640 4 жыл бұрын
He did the only possible thing to save the peace. Starfleet with phase cloaking devices = war between the Federation and Romulus.
@untruelie2640
@untruelie2640 4 жыл бұрын
@Anti-Federalist 1776 Not for long. And even if they had the advantage - a war still would've been desastrous for many federation citizens.
@untruelie2640
@untruelie2640 4 жыл бұрын
@Anti-Federalist 1776 The Tal Shiar (the Romulan Intelligence Service) would be able to aquire the knowledge about the phase cloak sooner or later. I suspect that it would be possible to develop scan methods to detect phase cloaked ships. Also, having a cloaking device of any kind doesn't mean your are invincible. Your ship still has to decloak in order to fire its weapons or using its transporters (since they have to be in phase with the rest of the universe to be of use). And the Romulans still have their "conventional" cloaking device.
@melodkeyelash
@melodkeyelash 26 күн бұрын
The only time Worf was polite to a person he was about to throw in the brig.
@MrFuzzwuzzle
@MrFuzzwuzzle 5 ай бұрын
"I have a lot of friends at starfleet command" "A man who loses experimental technology loses favour with command"
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