I have an AMD mystery box! - Gigabyte AM5 Mystery Box

[@Yurgin764]

Linus second son, drops products like his dad. Linus must be proud

[@bartoszbartosz4075]

Its his boyfriend.

[@poggertroll]

@@bartoszbartosz4075 hes yvonne's boyfriend

[@joeykeilholz925]

Infalinus

[@goodgoyim9459]

looks more like linus than his own kids, race mixing.

[@Gamingtechgg]

no Linus is the son ;D

[@mecdude]

LMG Butter finger dropping tech we’re all drooling over is a tale as old as time.

[@pandasdreamlygon]

got he gots fatter and fatter

[@nosirrahx]

I kind of hope they come out with some kind of animated "training, not crashed" screen for people new to the potentially long first boot.

[@NoLongo]

All that impressive hardware and I was blown away at the M.2 latch.

[@Shaibuli]

It is an cool improvement, yes, but how often does an average user REALLY need to install or remove a M.2 drive...

[@Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy]

I was blown away by the power supply

[@idontwalkslow]

@@Gemmmmmmmmmmmmmy I see what you did there lol

[@WhiskyNerd]

Surprised you did not call the bomb squad with that power supply from gigabyte in it.

[@karehaqt]

It's in that case for a reason.

[@nevmiku]

That was only one model line. As if Seasonic never put out shitty products. 😒

[@NebulonRanger]

@@nevmiku Gigabyte PSUs are way more hit and miss Besides, it's a meme, let people have fun

[@alkoyyy]

@@nevmiku yeah, but they handled it *really* badly...

[@The1WhoEatsCake]

Notice how the talking point on the PSU was high quality Japanese caps. lol 🤣🤣

[@oldyoldenough7327]

I think Marketing guidelines from sponsor probably indicated: Avoid referring to anything as Gigabyte

[@raj1n501]

Why?

[@ghomerhust]

that's sort of how it sounded to me. kind of like how asus is now a separate entity to RoG. still owns em, but they dont have it in the name anymore

[@minkyb]

A pretty branding sells more poorly designed products! Yayyyyy

[@oldyoldenough7327]

@@raj1n501 Exposed by another PC hardware channel, it was found that certain Gigabyte brand PSU's were faulty and could catch on fire. The company handled it poorly, downplaying the severity. This tarnished the company's reputation amongst PC enthusiasts. Given this, it was a bit sus that the Gigabyte name was not mentioned at all for most of this video despite most/all of the components coming from that company. A little stink of marketing/PR shenanigans at play in this sponsored piece, we smell through it though. 😊

[@me99771]

@@oldyoldenough7327 I actually forgot it was gigabyte that made that psu. I also forgot aorus was a gigabyte brand. But I did realise it was hella sus that they didn't want the video to mention the company behind aorus and here we are.

[@rogoth01themasterwizard11]

the real question though is will the power supply explode?, because lets be honest, they have a reputation to uphold.

[@AaronShenghao]

Sorry to disappoint, their Aorus line are quite disappointing at exploding

[@RedRingOfDead]

@@AaronShenghao it's treason then

[@akashpramanik919]

@@AaronShenghao Forgetting your roots😡 how could you gigabyte 🤬

[@taktuscat4250]

That's just bad design at the time

[@kennyg7163]

Was thinking the same thing.

[@LukasTheBlue]

I like the fact that LMG has switched and stayed with MTs instead of MHz for RAM. Big fan. I wish we could put enough pressure on the manufacturers to finally start telling the truth.

[@Neoxon619]

Like father, like son. Dropping things runs in the family.

[@binrat3020]

No one runs in his family.

[@xapu8775]

@@binrat3020 why you gotta do him like that 💀

[@doodskie999]

This is actually linus 2nd wife

[@awakenedredstone4939]

11:26 the way how the tab crashes as soon as he stops using it is perfect

[@sanyammalhan]

Gigabyte lost the credibility when they knowingly sold non-functional power supplies and then claimed that the Power supplies were fine. These power supplies shorted the components in the middle of GPU shortage and these power supplies were bundled with the GPU. So after screwing you multiple times how can a company just behave like nothing happened.

[@discipleofdagon8195]

That's the tech market for you, they'll just turn around and act like nothing happened. I think at this point Gigabyte has paradoxically distanced itself from... itself. What I mean is that Aorus, from my experience (got no clue if they suffer from the same PSU defects) has been a good brand for Mobos and especially GPUs (my first build has an Aorus elite 3060ti that runs like a dream) and it seems to be the more quality wing of gigabyte that they're pushing the envelope with. From most people I heard from, if they had a choice between a Gigabyte eagle and an Aorus GPU, they'd pick the latter. I'd still never buy a PSU from them, I'll stick with Corsair for that.

[@TheOverdriver1]

For reference, That X670E montherboard costs $1200 AUD. The X670 cost $599 AUD. Its freaken nuts how expensive these motherboards are costing now.

[@SoVeXeN]

I paid $1800 AUD for my asus z690 extreme motherboard lol

[@discipleofdagon8195]

@@SoVeXeN bro why Mobos aren't that important unless you're trying to be the next splave

[@kiri101]

How emphatically did Aorus ask you not to plug and replug either end of that new 12VHPWR connector? It's stated they're only rated for THIRTY connection cycles and GN/others have shown that issues can appear well before then.

[@h-6191]

that's more than unacceptable

[@treborrrrr]

I'm not saying that's not horrendously bad durability. But in practice, for 99.9% of consumers, will it ever be an actual issue? I can't speak for anyone else but for the last 4-5- systems I've built, I've removed the power connector from a graphics card a total of maybe two times.

[@2dozen22s]

​@@treborrrrr I've been through 3-4 GPUs on one system, 2 cases, 2 motherboards, and have replugged them numerous times for debugging/swapping or taking a photo for selling before putting it back in (all before finally upgrading my PSU). It won't affect the majority of consumers, and it won't immediately result in fire hazards, but come 4-5 years it may begin to affect a large section of the enthusiast community. This also can affect the used market if the gpu end of the connector can get damaged. My r9 fury is used, and still in a good enough condition to be sold again.

[@tigartar]

You know that most of these connectors are rated for similar connection cycles right? It isn't some kind of big new thing its been a thing for a while now the pins have never been sturdy and it is something that just needs to be replaced especially if you are someone who just upgrades part by part over a long cycle of time. For example sata cables are rated for 50 connection cycles(Esata for 5000) and problems due to disconnect and reconnect can and will happen after 10-20 times, this is something that has been around for a long time as these cables weren't designed to be unplugged often and more so designed that the average person might unplug them 4-5 times if even that before swapping to a different case or getting replacement cables or anything like that. In a bunch of older pcs(try thinking the big pata cables) you had cables that would stop working if you bend them to far on accident or disconnected them a few times all these cables are designed to be plugged in and left there and not be messed with more then a few times. Yes we need more durable cables but that will come at a cost of either complexity and cost or just cost itself and honestly how many times are you going to unplug and plug in your graphics card in a life time if you buy it and use it for a while?

[@bmth2111]

Just recently purchased the ROG Strix Z590-A mobo and m.2s are held down by the plastic swivel latches. Thought they were just to keep the screws( had screws in the standoffs too just in case I guess) from coming out, but no, no screws needed. You just pop in the m.2, push it down and swivel the latch to the right. It’s pretty nice!

[@vashsevrem8168]

Looks like I will need to live under a rock for the next 5 years until this gen 5 hardware becomes affordable.

[@Matt-wc2mf]

GPUs are getting to be the size of motherboards these days, but we're still relying on the little PCIe connector to support them. How long until it's standard to use a ribbon cable, and both the MoBo and GPU have their own dedicated standoffs to mount them in the case?

[@andrewt9204]

It's why I still have my Cooler Master HAF XB case, the motherboard mounts horizontally so I don't have to use GPU support brackets and such. Even graphics cards with full metal backplates sag a little on vertical mounted boards, which isn't good long term.

[@Edino_Chattino]

At this point the GPU should be mounted vertically in the chassis, right besides the Mobo. Would make for a longer case, but thinner one. We could even go back to the old days when we used horizontal cases in our desks with the monitor above it.

[@tigartar]

@@andrewt9204 The same case I have and honestly its such a nice case to have I honestly wish that kinda design was more popular as it makes so much sense to have it all flat instead of dangling from the side especially with the weight of some of these cards now days.

[@jemiebridges3197]

@@Edino_Chattino nope. that would have it looking like a PS5. on the other hand it ought to allow better cooling solutions.

[@Sard_Onyx]

I'm most excited about the Halo themed GPU... and it didn't even come in the care package.

[@PNWAffliction]

Man it looks like Aorus solved all the funkyness from the 570 boards, that 670 board looks freaking perrrfecttt

[@Solly_March_Goat]

The fact that the back plate is now attached is so useful, it was painful sometimes when I'd have to install a cooler to a am4 motherboard

[@nopelandfill]

I just tape the back plate in place, easy fix

[@Alexandra-Rex]

He mentioned the 32 core second gen Threadripper. I believe the 7600X gets a higher score in Cinebench than my 2950X.. 🤯

[@TrueThanny]

12:05 230W is the stock PPT limit of the 7950X. Those are not PBO numbers, and that CB R23 score was well below what the 7950X gets at stock. So something was amiss with that setup.

[@Kaisq]

That TV is genuinely distracting me alot. Can't unsee those ads coming in and out

[@DigThat32]

Luv the eject button for the GPU

[@slysi84]

Just so you guys know, you blurred out the chips Eng Sample number in R23 but totally forgot to do it when the camera came into focus when in the bios! Cool shit though. AMD did a great job.

[@whomad15]

Don't know if I'd ever trust a gigabyte PSU

[@macking104]

steve will test it..

[@IvanScore4life]

hear that new ones are good, old ones- trash

[@denvera1g1]

7:35 This is normal on professional AM4 boards, i think i have an Asrock Rack X470 that has a secured backplate instead of loose fitting

[@ghomerhust]

most of them now have a little bit of double sided tape on the backplate as a minimum. it's pretty nice.

[@brrr8995]

Your video about the ring is private but still showing up in my feed. What the heck.

[@guadalupe8589]

I was watching the video Linus made for Oura when it cut off at the end. Looks like it was deleted right before I finished it

[@Mighty_Dork]

Omg I am watching this the day I can't finish building my PC bcuz I forgot to take my AM4 backplate to university when moving. The fact that this one doesn't come off and is always included is awesome.

[@ACuriousTanuki]

So, is someone shadow-sponsoring the video for the TV ad-roll in the background? Or was a blank screen just too boring? A little distracting IMO

[@Joomen1]

After having 2 different AORUS X570 Master boards (both have issues with the battery, resetting UEFI settings after reboot) and other quirks, I'm not sure if I'd trust the AORUS Master motherboard. But the numbers shown are impressive. Going to stick with the 5950x for a while though. Fast enough for everything I throw at it for a while

[@jafizzle95]

Sweet, I heard Gigabytes PSUs are the bomb.

[@N0N0111]

I love how they casually cut the issues...

[@pixelrubbish]

Hey guys, I feel I missed something. Has anyone seen Anthony lately? He ok?

[@JSLEnterprises]

In Gigabyte(Aorus) fashion, the vrm heatsinks thermal pads probably barely touch the vrms, or only touch some of them; just like in their video cards.

[@discipleofdagon8195]

I mean my Aorus Elite 3060ti has really good thermal performance, doesn't even breach 65C on a fairly warm day under full load

[@minkyb]

With the click of a video it's amazing to wish for the start of ltt labs and testing. All I know is my experience of gigabyte aorus is it looks pretty but just runs.

[@NebulonRanger]

Let's hope that Gigabyte PSU doesn't explode

[@Addesa91]

Linus drop curse is contagious!!

[@spottyau]

The Gigabyte UD1000GM-P5 is not an ATX3.0 power supply and in tests it failed the high transient tests that Jake mentions the PSU is designed for. The UDGM power supplies are actually based on the same PGM power supplies that blew up, they fixed the issue and rebranded the power supply to avoid the bad publicity, quickly stuck the new PCIe gen 5 12VHPWR cable on it without redesigning the power supply to meet ATX3.0 standards. It's funny that Jake mentions it's important to buy an ATX 3.0 power supply and one that can handle high transient spikes when the power supply he is promoting is neither. Gigabyte is careful not to refer to this as an ATX 3.0 power supply in any of its documentation, so I'm curious if that was a talking point gigabyte provided or just a mistake made by Short Circuit?

[@asaflevy1540]

You can see Jake is reading off the provided gigabyte reviewers guide, he is moving his eyes every sentence down to the his 'laptop prompter'

[@agriosgeorge]

The GPU latch is the same from some MOBOs from the early 00's... Veeeery innovative !!

[@Murderhoboh]

Nice they use the 12V connection on the PSU end. Increases chances of fire. Seasonic and Corsair are going for 8pins on the psu end, cause of said chance of fire. Gigagbyte created a better IED.

[@Wingless_DraGon-hex]

He drops someting Everyone : is that a linus's bizzare adventure reference

[@Sam-cd9jz]

it's astounding to me how smart and adept at this Jake is despite being younger than me!

[@cadon_slayer4285]

The new latch thing on the SSD was found out by toy companies 5+ years ago that's kinda funny

[@NagisaShiota11]

Why did you go and private the oura ring vide, I was halfway through it

[@CasualG-mer]

X670 looks dope...wonder how cheap the B650 is going to be.

[@rogoth01themasterwizard11]

AMD stated they would start at $125 ish

[@justinjohnson476]

@@rogoth01themasterwizard11 which means anything decent will probably be 200-250 unfortunately. this gen for cpu/gpu/mobo is just ridiculously expensive. not a good time

[@Armathius76]

@@justinjohnson476 Agreed. It also feels that these motherboards and they lack of budget oriented option... a smart Intel launch could flip the switch here, where AMD seems like they are overpriced & out of touch.

[@magemasher22]

A boat is just a boat, but the mystery box could be anything! It could even be a boat!

[@ahmedghoraba2153]

1:32 that's basically jake asking for more allowance for dady Linus 😂😂

[@DoObs]

Little do most people know...that thick tubing? Is actually the cables they coil up the tubes on both ends. How do I know this. Well my Fractal 360, I modded the tubes with actual wider ID compressor tubing. And to my surprise the amount of cable length that is wrapped closely around the tubes of the Fractal is insane. About 3.5meters worth

[@rmp5s]

Ok...that M.2 latch? Love it. That's awesome.

[@shankS0]

You no longer have a small chance to bend pins on your CPU now you have enormous chance to bend pins on your motherboard

[@justinjohnson476]

i have built intel computers with lga sockets since the intel core 2 duo, and not once have i ever bent pins on the motherboard. if you practice safe procedures and leave the socket cover on when not installing a cpu, its pretty dang hard to ruin the pins

[@andrewt9204]

@@justinjohnson476 I've never bent a mobo pin either on dozens of my LGA builds. I have bent pins a couple times on AMD CPU's. It's so easy to do with just the slightest mishandling. They were very minor bends that I was able to correct, but still annoying. I'm not the only one, some of my friends asked for help when they bent their AMD pins. One I was able to fix, the other one they accidentally dropped taking out of the package and it fully flattened a few of them, and they just immediately broke off of course when trying to bend them back. In most cases, the CPU is more expensive and longer lasting than the MOBO, so this is a good change, and I think 99% agree.

[@EnsignLovell]

Memory training isn't just an issue there... I was stuck with what was wrong with my PC for a long time, it is an OLD board for modern day standards, but it gets the job done. Anyway, I digress. I basically was forced to reset bios as I kept forcing it off when it shown CPU and DRAM issues posting. Not very healthy for it as you could imagine. Still took a few minutes to complete...

[@12pandemon]

They stepped up the game for the flagship board for x670. I have the x570 Aorus Master, and it's more in line with the lower end Elite board shown in this video. Still a fantastic board though.

[@rustler08]

Yeah, I didn't even bother with a Master because the Elite was good enough

[@12pandemon]

@@rustler08 I got mine on discount paired with a 5800x. It was kind of a no-brainer at the price I got it at, otherwise I totally would've gone with an Elite myself.

[@JohnADoe-pg1qk]

4:37 This is not a motherboard, this is an architectural model for an entire hotel complex. Just build it somewhere in Las Vegas.

[@owlstead]

Somebody explained on the Dutch Tweakers site that nowadays the sensors are closer to the action, so they should report higher and more accurate temperatures. Silicon is not such a great conductor of heat.

[@djuz3]

@3.58 No price. The retail stores here in Sweden have set a price around 10k upp to 15k for motherboards like that one.

[@2009numan]

you cant actually change the cpu backplate on those boards either as it secures the cpu mounting mechanism on as well

[@2buxaslice]

95 degrees while watercooled? Yikes that's hot.

[@tomgalu]

Loved this video,.Very informative and interesting with a little humour added 😀. Made me to press that subscribe button

[@9usuck0]

I was halfway finished with that Ring video and it got taken down? lol

[@Ornithopter470]

I am excited for a few months from now, when there are a few more options available for motherboards. Cause they're actively painful currently.

[@TeamEmperor]

I don't like that were having to use more Watts to get more performance. It's hurting my wallet. Team Red and Blue needs to figure this out.

[@motoryzen]

8:28 to 8:37 Wendell's or Paul's hardware coverage of this around the 1 ro 3 minute mark shows a sticker on the ASRock steel legend board talking about 200 to 400 seconds depending on your memory configuration.

[@beck4rl]

your way better than linus i was actually entertained AND informed lol

[@dragonling748]

I would pay to have all my parts arrive in a big crate like that

[@erdembey2568]

it is by design meant to hit 95c . it doesnt throttle but it is designed to push limits without needing to lower performance when it throttles

[@joshua41175]

Can we please get a round up of what atx 3.0 means for hardware in general.

[@Vanilla_Donut]

Gigabyte AORUS X670 Elite EX is US$289.99 based on Newegg USA. CA$389.99 from Canada Computers. Gigabyte AORUS X670E Master is US$499.99. CA$679.99 from both Newegg USA and Canada.

[@12pandemon]

$150 more for the Master this time around, I think they're doing some SKU shifting with the Master being the proper flagship targeted at enthusiasts and the Elite being the high end option. The Master for x570 was $350, and touted as the higher end option with the Xtreme being the LN2 Enthusiast option, but with the extra features added it seems like it might be the other way around now.

[@WXSTANG]

700 watt PSU with that setup seems a tad low no? 250 for CPU, 300 for GPU.

[@chickenman404]

God I need to upgrade.

[@ineedpineapples]

Same. At least in terms of graphics cards. I still have a 1050 haha

[@motoryzen]

na..Intel will be the same way it always has been..13 to 30 percent higher priced for the same performance within a 5 percent range difference.

[@suly3243]

💸

[@tarelsun4025]

No you dont. You WANT one.

[@chickenman404]

@@ineedpineapples I'm running a core I5-650, 4 gigs of ddr3, and a gtx 750 ti...

[@soresoarer981]

Just wondering, why is the TV behind Jake turned on? I found it to be somewhat distracting since it was switching between the Ads on the TV.

[@GrayEyesWorld]

I'll def trust Gigabyte boards. I had a Z87-OC FORCE back in the day. I ran that thing hard with a 4790k @ 4.5GHZ and 4 GPUs (970's, 980's, 1080's and 1080ti's) mining ETH 24/7 for 2 years back in 2016-2018 and it just worked. Only thing that killed it was when Windows updated oneday and somehow prevented the PLX8747 multiplexor from working. But hot damn they mean it with that whole military grade shtick on their high end boards.

[@amishasdf]

You guys should do some sort of test for durability of pcie slots. I dont really believe that 2.2x stronger number.

[@tylerbonts]

Jake is competing with Riley for my favorite. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. Does Jake have an advantage as the second, but oldest, son of Linus?

[@WipeZZu]

You have to plant that PSU to the A-site

[@alkalinedale]

Jake killing these shoots. Well done!

[@will16320]

Like father like son with the dropping stuff

[@JakubVacek42]

Is this crate part of the the retail packaging? Because that would explain the prices on these X670E motherboards.

[@Bill.A]

Really good review. You covered not only the specs but the settings that may not be clear by just looking at it.

[@farmerfb]

The screwdriver push is driving me nuts, it's 70 bucks! I'm still using the screwdriver Compaq gave me in 94.

[@nathanwalker4969]

that thunder sound was so realistic in headphones that I turned around

[@jachupol5823]

btw u can see the engineering sample name in the bios 9:51 Also don't buy Gigabyte power supplies, they might explode. The new 600W connector can set itselft on fire.

[@joeltaylor7741]

Wait, will the new cards not be compatible with current 'normal' power supplies?!

[@casualtake1497]

That 6900XT looks so fire bruuh

[@Wolxian87]

The takeaway from this video was that I need GPU quick release buttons on any motherboard I buy now. Seriously needs to be the standard with these chonka cards.

[@MagicPants1013]

Yo where did that horizon ring video go??

[@theclassics6922]

Jake on camera. "I'm stealing this."

[@EmpathVibe]

SO what happened to the Oura ring video you guys just uploaded???

[@GeekShhh]

95 degrees while watercooled!? Can u imagine the temps on an air cooler lol

[@davidskidmore3442]

According to other reviews, still 95 degrees F... just lower performance with less effective cooling. They actually recommend a water cooler for the 79xx parts so you can hit the crazy clocks they peak at; 5.7 Ghz single core, 5.1 Ghz all-core.

[@K0ALA.]

Jake playing Halo is so much enjoyable to watch compare to watching his Dad play

[@Giralian]

The early sample name is visible at 9:25 under CPU in the BIOS

[@Eli-zb2yj]

Intel 13 Gen: finally a worthy opponent our battle will be legendary

[@MickeyMolad]

as if intel ever wanted competition

[@Mustafa_9628]

0:50 Friends? Friends? 🙁 I felt that

[@thatguyb3rt]

The new 12VHPWR cable looks so fragile at 2:46 , I can see the smaller signal wires getting ripped out if they get caught on something during cable routing. Time will tell but I honestly would prefer the older PCI-E cables even if they are bulkier.

[@arwo1143]

…I’m not that much into RAM speeds and their effect, but doing the math, older RAM seem actually quicker to respond 6000mhz CL40 has a response time of 0.0066 seconds 3200mhz CL9 has a response time of 0.0028 seconds More than twice as fast What massive thing am I missing or misunderstanding here?

[@dandreani]

that is normal with every generation of DDR ram. you trade latency with transfers/s. on ddr5 6000 you do up to 6000 transfers each one taking an average of 0.0066

[@Penguin-gq7mp]

1600 cl9 not 3200 cl9

[@willowjiggy2339]

lol the sabrent ssd is really good @ 9:05

[@thrash1337]

I really don't like those huge VRM heatsinks... Like, how am I supposed to fit a Noctua NH-D15 in there?

[@12pandemon]

That is a *pathetically* thin radiator. Like legit. Cmon Gigabyte.

[@sethriggle1462]

Daannnnggg Jake looking hecka big. That boy needs to see a gym ASAP!

[@krismueller]

Randomly looked at the LTT store page while watching this video, has someone teased the idea of doing a count down to 100K ? IYKYK 🙃