I have had enough of Makita: Enter the Milwaukee Big Red Truck

[@MrSimoc1969]

I have Makita and Bosch tools both some over 10yrs old still going strong. I have had Milwaukee tools. Brought a 2 piece combo hammer drill driver and impact. Drill failed within 30 mins and needed to be repaired and has failed 5 times since and is rarely used. Impact driver has been repaired 2 times. Both brought in 2019 so now out of warranty Makita 0 repairs in 10 yrs and bosch 2 repairs on over 100 tools over 10 yrs My mates a plumber and uses Milwaukee and brought a 8 piece combo and every tools has been repaired or replaced in the first 12 months. The grinder has been replaced 3 times so far so take what you want from that

[@MrSimoc1969]

PS I’m a mechanic so my tools do get knocked around dropped abused etc

[@reymundsantiago4451]

I use DeWalt but i often see people comparing the low tier of tools to the high tier of another which is unfair were the tools from the fuel line up? I see DeWalt get railed by this as they are not as clear as which line up is better

[@iangregoryhome]

Hi, I use Bosch Professional 12v and 18v with HiKOKI 18v and 36v filling in any gaps. I scrapped my Makita 18v collection years ago as there batteries were crap. Both Bosch and Milwaukee 12v have the battery light on the tools and not in the battery.

[@Nakamichi_Service_UK]

My son uses Milwaukee - he has his own engineering business and is very happy with it all still after 3 years of heavy use. I forked out for a dewalt impact to undo a crank bolt. It is awesome.

[@JDMworx]

was a dewalt guy, then randomly got a set of gen 3 fuel drills for my birthday and ive honestly never looked back, now i arent a tool snob ill use anything to get the job done but the guy i work with is still dewalt and you can tell a difference

[@landcruiserscotland]

Do you work in the trade or just a hobbyist like me?

[@JDMworx]

@@landcruiserscotland trade but not one specific, like a general builder so do a bit of everything, so they get a good bashing daily but im like you, i love a good tool so i try look after them haha, M18 fuel is my daily go too but when im tinkering with cars on a weekend, the M12 stuff is spot on, m12 stubby impact, extended reach ratchet etc, not to mention the 3 year warranty is top notch service too, everyone else seems to be playing catch up

[@RobDawg-b6h]

Milwaukee all the way. Had the 3/8 power ratchet for 6 years, it's a beast, as is the drill, angle grinder and rattle gun. Got lots more but those mainstay are superb.Got a 12ah battery for grinder and 1/2 rattle gun as use them hard. Got a few M12 and M18 5.0ah which last pretty well and the fast double charger. All good

[@landcruiserscotland]

Any issues with any of them over 6 years?

[@RobDawg-b6h]

Absolutely nothing at all. 2 pals with serious pro garages who hit them hard daily swear by them. All having moved from Snap on. Me included.

[@AlexY2-b6y]

Steering away from M12 3.0ah & 6.0ah battery, they're junk. Go with 4.0ah & 5.0 High output.

[@pjofurey6239]

My first cordless tool was a Mikita , it came in a metal case and the battery’s died fast , the next one to the collection was a 24v Bosch SDS , my first MILWAUKEE was a 110v recip saw it still earns its keep after 18 years of work. I use M12 in the workshop & M18 on site.

[@landcruiserscotland]

Wow I bet they were manufactured differently 18 years ago. You ever had to crack it open?

[@pjofurey6239]

@ I took it apart early on just to see how it was built the massive iron flywheel was a suprise but made sense after , I had just rubbed a seized up zzr 600 Kawasaki to put in the furnace . 45 minutes from complete bike to bite size lumps!

[@jamieforrester7108]

My Makita drill crapping out, getting replaced, dying again is what got me on to the milwaukee train. So for I've got no complaints but it's only been a year. I'm replacing/expanding as it goes on sale for a good deal or I absolutely need the tool.

[@landcruiserscotland]

Where do you not all get stuff from? I'm a sucker for amazon when they have deals on tools

[@jamieforrester7108]

I've found the big box and tool specialty stores in town tend to have the best sales prices so almost everything is purchased locally.

[@jorren1000]

I use ingersoll rand, hilti, festool, makita. The only thing I use from Milwaukee are 3 different led lamps. They are good. The rest is crap.

[@ToolTimeToday]

Good investment in power tools is knowing your stuff. I've had DeWalt, Milwaukee, Bosch, Makita. Mainly the big brands for my every day whips. I've never had a tool fail on me yet (Maybe because i don't use them enough). All the tool brands have 1 rule and that's register the tool as soon as you get it to extend the warranty to 3 year's. It's a shame that your 3/8 ratchet kept breaking like that. I used to invest in single brands over the years and recently have started to change my thought's. I now just go with what review's rank a particular tool in question & go from there, then i make it a rule to ask people as well as look on youtube. I don't buy on impulse as i have been disappointing so many times because i did no do my homework.

[@m5nut]

Congrats, it's always a good feeling getting new tools. I think Milwaukee are a good brand, the head mechanic at work uses them and he's no complaints. "That thing on the floor" looked like a pipe expander. If you didn't want to invest completely into Milwaukee, there's battery adapters out there in the amazonverse that can allow the use of one brands battery on anothers tool.

[@landcruiserscotland]

Oh really? I didn't even consider that! I'll have a look for the adaptors thankyou!

[@iainmatheson5190]

​@@landcruiserscotland Beware with some of the adapters. They run the battery down too far, as there is no electronic protection. They are very useful, just mind the battery. Best of luck.

[@landcruiserscotland]

That's a great tip. I wonder if I could get one that specifically includes that protection. I'll have a look thanks

[@nikolayzaytsev4410]

Could you please tell, why do you prefered FIR38LR/2560 instead of FPTR/3050 for example? I thought buy something simular for myself in a future, but not sure about best option to buy.

[@nikolayzaytsev4410]

I've decided to take FPTR. Will see how it goes. Seems like more technological solution, but may be less durable though. So maybe I'an an anoter one victim of marketing :)

[@chrisharrell2449]

Remember you can use your old batteries with an adapter that can fit Milwaukee tools, just a word of warning do not charge them on the Milwaukee charger if it's a Makita battery charge it on its original Makita charger. For instance I bought some third party tools that take take DeWalt batteries but I own no batteries so I purchased an adaptor to use a Milwaukee battery

[@berndtthomas]

No his milwaukee tools are 12v and the makita batteries are 18v.

[@andygilbert1877]

I’ve had Makita kit since 2008. The firm (Fork Truck Service Dept) bought into it to save having to do PAT testing on 110v gear. We had a drill, an 4 1/2” angle grinder and a blower. They were a revelation tbh, and took some real abuse as well, customers just expect the job done. I probably used and abused the angle grinder most, and I remember several times cycling through charging the 2 (3ah) batteries in succession, to get a job done. I had 2 batteries fail on me in 6 years, which I thought was OK, considering. When I moved on from that job I got to keep some of the kit, and added some of my own…impact guns, recip saw, die grinder, torches & some of the 12v stuff to handle getting into awkward places on fork trucks. I’ve never had the ratchet, that does seem bad but can you claim on warranty? I’m still using an air ratchet that’s about 20 years old and of course the head should be pretty indestructible because you use it manually first to crack off a fastener. Haven’t used Milwaukee much but you hear good & bad about all platforms anyway. Also the youngsters tend to be fanboys of their power tools just the same as their phone, so who knows!

[@landcruiserscotland]

Yeah you're right there does seem to be a bunch of fanatics and fanboying over particular brands. Folks in the comments here have been remarkably restrained! I love folks attitude on this channel when they're answering questions.

[@andygilbert1877]

@ I wonder if Makita are aware of the problem? If so they might fix it. The blower…had a habit of breaking in half if you dropped it…especially from up a fork truck mast! 😂 I repaired mine but it wasn’t ideal. When I left the firm I left that behind and bought my own, and they’d modified it so it was far less likely to break. To be fair I don’t think they imagined it being used about 5m off the ground and dropped! 😂😂😂

[@mustardcrumbles]

Honest opinion is it cheaper to replace 1 tool regularly than the whole lot .

[@landcruiserscotland]

I think this is the way. I'm not rich enough to dump the whole lot!

[@Icefisher420]

The 5.0 high output batteries are the best ones in the m12 line

[@landcruiserscotland]

I got a pair of 6.0 ones they're awesome

[@Icefisher420]

@ I’m sure they are great batteries but the 5.0 Xc batteries put out more power and some tools require the extra output to get the maximum power some tools have to offer. Very nice tool collection by the way.

[@landcruiserscotland]

@@Icefisher420 thanks. I'll have a look out for those. If I decide to get any heavier duty milwaukee items I'll search for that fancier battery. Great tip!

[@martinhill3986]

you can buy makita to milwaukee battery adapters so you can carry on using your old batteries. I had all dewalt but went to TEAM RED !!!

[@DevlinMcDougall]

I use makita and always have 6 years I’ve had my tools and only so far my impact has died and had to be replaced I done timber frame kits so lots of outdoor work and heavy duty bolts ect put in so lots of heavy use on the tools and think they are perfect I’d stay with makita if not I’d be interested in taking some of your tools of your hands for the right price

[@colinross6259]

I'm a red man and had a good run.

[@neilmyhill2003]

Makita has a 3 year warranty if you register it online

[@sjb7339]

I use Metabo tools they have interchangeable batteries with other German manufacturers and afair sized catalogue of tools of their own products then you can add around 15 other manufacturers and have had a 3 years warranty on tools and batteries since i went cordless 8 years ago what is not to like

[@landcruiserscotland]

Haven't seen metabo before, I'll do some googling

[@andygilbert1877]

We had a workshop Metabo 4 1/2” angle grinder at the last place I worked. It got really used and abused by everyone but was still working after 5 years when I left. The firm bought 2 new batteries for it as it showed no sign of giving up. I was quite impressed as I’d never heard of Metabo before!

[@DGordyy]

Milwaukee tools electrics assembly's are sold as one piece you cant buy just a trigger etc. Makes the tools un economical to repair due to price after your warranty is gone.

[@antonyroe1596]

it wasn't American rock music. It was AC/DC who mostly originated from Scotland and formed in Australia.

[@landcruiserscotland]

You'd think I should know that since I'm in Scotland. Also, great sense of hearing. I turned the music way down in the video. You must have loud speakers!

[@antonyroe1596]

@@landcruiserscotland Cheers.Thanks to AC/DC I have an affinity to Scotland and even though the music level was low, my ears didn't fail me. No offence intended, my love of music now covers the love of tools and DIY stuff. What a great combination. Good luck in your future work my friend.

[@Rob1972Gem]

Same problem with Milwaukee they are just as problematic. They are more expenses to buy more expensive to fix and a lot of the time spares are brought in sub assemblies and you end up paying for things you do not need because you cannot get the exact spares you need.

[@landcruiserscotland]

I've seen some videos now of the sub assemblies. Major replacements rather than repairs. Not ideal.

[@zerocoolwpd1]

Milwaukee the ratchets are great i have 4 of them , but dont use the non imoact ratchet to break a bolt like a racchet as it will fuck the head . Also place in east kilbride does a huge selection like the truck and tier quite reasonabl6 priced

[@ah1f39]

Buy Milwaukee tools keep the Makita batteries and get adapters. I run all my tools on Makita batteries.

[@Patmac74]

Milwaukee m12 fuel are definitely the way forward. And that's coming from a dewalt fan. All my 18v is dewalt, all my 12v automotive is m12

[@landcruiserscotland]

Do you find the smaller battery size makes any difference for access?

[@Patmac74]

I use the 6ah batteries on my stubby impact wrench ,drill and hackzall , i can use the big batteries for the ratchet but rather use the 2 or 2.5 high output on that . I still have my dewalt 1/2 inch nutbuster for when things get serious, but being honest, the m12 is plenty powerful. Im not trading in my dewalt thought 😂​@landcruiserscotland

[@andygilbert1877]

⁠​⁠@@landcruiserscotlandIt’s definitely worth having a 12v drill of whatever platform you have. Great at home too, drilling in cupboards, between floor joists etc. (That’s what I told the wife when I splashed out, anyway!😂)I also have a 3/8” impact gun, which being smaller & lighter gets used a lot in preference to the 18v.

[@Kvorning0]

as a milwaukee user yes its definetly worth everyobdy in my country uses makita 90 perocent of the time milwaukee beats it but if you need a rachet go milwaukee but you dont have to replace if you dont want tooyou could also sell or trade your emakita to saver money but go with what you like =)

[@landcruiserscotland]

Trade in, I hadn't thought of that. I'll see what my old stuff is worth on ebay

[@Malossianoplus]

A lot of EU building company are switching from Milwaukee back to makita,bosch, metabo. They got a lot of trouble with their tools and to repair them is not worth cuz u can t buy just the peace that broke like bosch, makita but u have to buy the whole assembly. Plus in EU they are all cihina made tools with only 1 year warranty instead of the 5 in the US.. Milwaukee now is a Chinese company..

[@marchowie]

Sorry to burst your bubble but your Milwaukee ratchet will end up the exact same as your makita, able to hold the anvil with fingers and it won’t turn 🤣

[@landcruiserscotland]

Oh dear oh dear. Well at least I'll have a 3 year warranty this time instead of 1! Have you had one that broke?

[@nikolayzaytsev4410]

I hope this new wrench will serve you in a better way than Makita does. Congratulations on your purchase! I admit, I thought this kind of wrench was more likely a toy, rather than a serious tool. Maybe I'm wrong though. I prefer Makita. Because they're cheaper, have fair quality and serviceable: it's easy to find most of the spare parts.

[@landcruiserscotland]

To be honest I got the ratchet driver because it was fast and great for accessing bolts. Then every time it broke I hated going back to other tools. I missed it when I didn't have it. This one is even better than the makita one I had. I think I'll keep a mixture and try not to be a snob

[@jcoul1sc]

Its a 20 year old makita and for DIY comapred with M12 fuel - doesnt comapre

[@landcruiserscotland]

Well let's hope I get some better performance from the milwaukee!

[@jcoul1sc]

@landcruiserscotland you will get better performance but not maintainable. You can buy the made in Japan makita, different tool to China makita

[@jcoul1sc]

@landcruiserscotland see deangreaser videos on here for his contempt for milwaukee. Mind you the m12 is different so you will be ok

[@vinceking7878]

Makita make great carpentry tools like the circular saws, they are fixable aswell. Milwaukee is better for mechanics i've heard.

[@UncleIvan1]

Why not use both. As a mechanic, Milwaukee is a better choice, but for carpentry makita all day

[@landcruiserscotland]

Fortunately I am neither, so I think using a mixture is the right choice 😂

[@JKRmsrt]

3:07 Mate honestly. I've used Makita for years. It's dead leave it Makita haven't been in the game in a long time. I've had Makita for 10+ years ryobi and Milwaukee are the same owner. For what you use it for the small 12v would be sufficient. Just do it in your own time though. There's no point doing it on mass. Look at the torque test channel if you want data btw Also don't buy the basic battery charger just buy the fast fuel charger. Has the adaptor for both battery types

[@landcruiserscotland]

I didn't know torque test had done comparisons on the power tools. I'll have a look thanks mate

[@JKRmsrt]

@landcruiserscotland they even have a spreadsheet!

[@misterx243]

Watch some milwaukee and makita repair video's from Dean Doherty Greaser here on KZbin. In short: big power, very inovative for usability/user experience. Breaks fast. Bad waranty in Europe, no 5 year like in America.(That is why the Americans are so enthousiastic about them) Very bad repairabillty so they are bad on right to repair. I'm a fan of using them if they are not mine. I'm not a fan of owning them myself. Makita have a great diffrence in durability with all their different models. The white drill you have seems to be a old hobby+ grade drill. Think you did good on the Milwaukee ratchet, impactwrenches from them are also great. But dunno if i would take the Milwaukee drill over a Professional grade Makita one. The Makita rachet is just one of the bad luck things every company has. Like Milwaukee have their greaseguns. They break within a year even when only used twice. Anything on AliExpress is better or the same buildquallity. Wach some videos. Torque Test Channel for numbers and tests, Dean Doherty for repair stuff and make up your mind on them.

[@landcruiserscotland]

Superb this is some really helpful stuff thankyou. The white makita stuff was really cheap but the impact driver has done well over the years. The drill not so much 😂

[@Thebattler86]

You jumped out of the frying pan and into the fire

[@landcruiserscotland]

It seems possible. Have you had some problems?

[@Thebattler86]

@landcruiserscotland Yes I have. I had all Milwaukee tools from gen 3 and I sold every one of them and bought Hikoki instead. The quality of Milwaukees gen 4, which was released in 2022, plummeted from the Gen 3. Over the past few years theyve been cheaping out on parts, but still charging the same price for lower quality. My colleague had his brand new impact driver fail the same week he bought it. You cant fix these tools when they break, they are designed to be difficult and expensive to fix. You can't just buy the part that breaks, you have to buy the whole assembly of parts. Milwaukee are no longer the brand they once were, they are gone downhill and living off their old reputation. Hikoki is just the new name for Hitachi power tools. I had heard great things about them and did my research before I bought them and now Im glad I did. Theyre such nice, ergonomic and high quality and theyre very easy to fix if anything does go wrong. Milwaukee are overpriced rubbish and they're starting to be found out by their customers. Nowadays they care more about advertising than actually making good tools.

[@adamwolf2376]

​@@landcruiserscotlandMilwaukee quality has fallen off a cliff in the last 3 years. The tools are just cheaply made, plain and simple. Cheap Chinese bearing, non epoxied control boards, and batteries dying out faster than usual are all too common with Milwaukee. They look cool, but internally they are abysmal. And if any of those internal parts fail and you want to repair them. You're forced to buy a whole assembly of different parts all together, which most if the time ends up costing as much as the tool itself. If any single part of a Makita tool breaks, you can order in that individual part and fix it. Also, when sending back a broken Milwaukee tool for a warranty repair, they will just replace it with a new one regardless of the fault, they don't care about which components fail. Makita will actually open it up and repair it, Makita then keep track of which parts of which models are the most common to fail, they then go back and improve those parts, always improving. I can guarantee that after some time, the part of the wrench that keeps breaking on you will be reviews and improved by Makita. Just something to think about Dean Doherty has a great channel all about repairing power tools. He has all the tools imaginable coming through his workshop day in and day out. He has the clear opinion that Milwaukee are just not up to scratch, he's reluctant to take them in for repairs because they're mostly just a waste of time.

[@jcoul1sc]

Just get makita to milwaukee adaptor

[@landcruiserscotland]

I'm going to to this - especially since there's one with a transformer included

[@jcoul1sc]

@landcruiserscotland I did not realise you are using 12v until later in the video. U seen all the m18 repair videos in here, deangreaser is good, he hates m18 as he says poorly made and no parts

[@landcruiserscotland]

I haven't seen his channel but I'm going to watch some tonight. Thanks for the recommendation

[@jcoul1sc]

@landcruiserscotland the contempt for m18 tools is worth watching, was one where he compared a m18 tool to all the other big brands, think it was an impact or a drill. M12 is very different though, thinking of investing in m12 too

[@JamesPage-n6e]

Hi I am in Job Site Solutions for Automotive Milwaukee UK in Scotland. If you need any help or advise, feel free to give me a shout. Jimbo.

[@UliMuliko]

I have both, i prefer makita little better

[@Goodwithwood69]

Your using the tool wrong!

[@landcruiserscotland]

All I want is for the ratchet to spin a nut. Is that so wrong?

[@Ripvankwinkle]

Will never touch Milwaukee, not until they fix the horrendous battery design

[@landcruiserscotland]

Interesting! What's the issue with the batteries?

[@Ripvankwinkle]

@@landcruiserscotlandThe M12 batteries lugs are prone to breaking and the M18 batteries, specifically on the 1/2 impact gun, rattle so much to the point the terminals splay out and don’t make contact with the terminals on the body. On another topic you’ve got the 3/4 impact gun, the anvil casing can’t seem to handle the power and end up breaking after continuous use.

[@alexc9584]

Have to say the if it's broke bin it attitude is odd coming from a guy who works on Land Cruisers. You've swapped from the most repairable tool brand on the planet to the least repairable tool brand. If it breaks in months of getting it, get it fixed on the warranty. If it's out of warranty find the readily available parts and fix it yourself. Seems more like an excuse to buy a shiney new tool.

[@landcruiserscotland]

Broke bin it is clearly not my attitude! For me the annoyance is just this one particular tool with makita. I've repaired them but it's not worth throwing good money after bad. The entire head comes as a replacement, but every one fails. New or old.

[@unclefester4626]

Keep that head lubed!!!!!

[@landcruiserscotland]

Advice for us all there my friend

[@unclefester4626]

@landcruiserscotland we have 2 milwaukee ratchets at work. Just my experience. Maintenance goes a long way...

[@landcruiserscotland]

Any particular type of lubricant you'd recommend?

[@unclefester4626]

@landcruiserscotland the original recommendation was something light. Ive been using gun oil lube. Originally i was going to grease it but was told not to use grease because it attracts dirt and holds it. Honestly i think anything is better than nothing. Air tool oil...heck wd40 if thats all you have on hand.

[@josephkahle4231]

Milwaukee is Chinese ,crap same product as Ryobi . Junk , you can get parts cheaper and they are readily available. Not Milwaukee, break it you replace it . Milwaukee is not what they used to be , look it up IGT owns them .

[@landcruiserscotland]

Apparently now owned by TTI in Hong Kong. Parts appear to be built for speed of construction rather than service

[@jamiesessford6599]

Bugatti is part of the VAG group, but that doesn’t make a Veryon the same as a Golf does it.

[@Pure-Blooded]

Yes agreed . They are great at marketing but there product breaks in 2 years even with minimal used.

[@landcruiserscotland]

Bugatti is owned by rimac now 😂 point is valid though

[@zerocoolwpd1]

Own milwaukee gear a d its bettercthan anything on thecmarket and its eay to repair as itsvunder warranty and its free. outside warranty parts are cheap to do it yourself

[@jcoul1sc]

Not comparing apples and apples - kzbin.info/www/bejne/o33bcnudZdypm5Y

[@ElectroAtletico]

MAKITA? In the US we say that MAKITA is a sure way not to have your power tools stolen because nobody wants them. Milwaukee and the Tool Trucks rule the roos!

[@landcruiserscotland]

How about snapon? Here in the UK folks go wild for snapon

[@ElectroAtletico]

@@landcruiserscotland Snap-on power tools are too expensive to compete against Milwaukee (cost/capability). Don't get me wrong, the Snap-On stuff is great but for the cost of a 3/8 power ratchet wrench you can get almost a full set up of Milwaukee.

[@KDlGG]

@@landcruiserscotlandsnap on if you have a tool truck coming to you is good mostly due to the fact that if it needs repaired they’re right there. No week+ waiting time for a repair kit, that being said the snap on power tools are the best BUT not by much, it’s not drastic to the point you’ll absolutely hands down toss everything but snap on, but you will have an advantage if you use these day in and day out all day.

[@landcruiserscotland]

So for me they're probably excessive because I'm not doing tool work every day or even every week. I'm just an IT guy with a car hobby.

[@landcruiserscotland]

What's the warranty like on snapon?

[@octymocty132]

Ivonly used a kit all my working life from aprntashio till now I agree the ratchts are dog shite I will say got to dogu website for all ya Makita needs i got a protective boot for my Makita impact and it tooke months to find some where tat do one . I not a wakee fan as it's same as DeWalt cheap rammed down ya throat and firm the lazy house bashers tend to use . Saying this they dos. Compact impact 12v with hitting power of a 18v and the wratchet is ace even the new one for tight access . BUT this is the problem battery interchange if they made all tools take Makita battery's. Happy days I slowly have some red wall stuff and integrate but end of day I'm a Makita man

[@landcruiserscotland]

A protective boot? What's that?