I Have SET OVER SET In A $309,700 Pot!

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Doug Polk Poker

Doug Polk Poker

Күн бұрын

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@DougPolkPoker
@DougPolkPoker 7 жыл бұрын
I try not to bring this up too often, but there actually is a $14,000 giveaway happening right now. You have until Friday to enter: gleam.io/lMFyo/doug-polks-last-giveaway-of-2017
@Bhaddis
@Bhaddis 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug! Dude play me heads up
@pillowtalk1305
@pillowtalk1305 7 жыл бұрын
Probably should do 28 x 500$ giveaways to share the love, instead of 1 winner..ppl just love better odds too, Im in btw ;)
@Hawksforever99
@Hawksforever99 7 жыл бұрын
Doug Polk Poker No one ever mentions the (very unlikely) possibility of 97ss as one of the possible hands you'd lose to and which would also pretty much be a) never folding in this situation and, b) Koon is going to possibly play it the same way from pre-flop?
@lari9496
@lari9496 7 жыл бұрын
he did mention it bro
@Nerfunkal
@Nerfunkal 7 жыл бұрын
I absolve you of your blasphemy my son.
@darrenthornton2419
@darrenthornton2419 6 жыл бұрын
"Most people have a 'if you got me, you got me' approach, but some really great players may be able to lay this one down." *Koon proceeds to lay this one down.* That is some classy commentary, man.
@krassenedyalkov4076
@krassenedyalkov4076 3 жыл бұрын
yeah Koon is great player thats why
@MrDarylGreen
@MrDarylGreen 7 жыл бұрын
that awkward moment when you build a reputation for overbluffing and people still fold boats to you when you have it.
@espinozasubs4007
@espinozasubs4007 7 жыл бұрын
Even with that weak action in the flop...
@spencercress5348
@spencercress5348 7 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when you flop set over set and forget to mention in the title that you only netted 70BB after your opponent over bet the river
@spencercress5348
@spencercress5348 7 жыл бұрын
That's kind of what I was saying, if JK had a channel he should do a video about how he owned this spot
@michael2305
@michael2305 7 жыл бұрын
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
@rico4141
@rico4141 7 жыл бұрын
after they bet 54K on the river themselves.
@antbanks7548
@antbanks7548 6 жыл бұрын
That was great to see that interaction when Jakoon bumped his head on your shoulder. That was a good thing for you to do and tell him, you could tell his stress immediately dissipated.
@captainstubbing1
@captainstubbing1 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I had to watch it like seven times to see what you were talking about and you are exactly right. Good eye, that was a great show of respect and a gargantuan lay down
@Nosirt
@Nosirt 5 ай бұрын
@@captainstubbing1it’s much worse when you are in live stream- folding boats is something that eats up your reputation. You only need this to be a bluff 1% of time for people to forever label you an idiot for folding a boat. He most likely wasn’t stressed about the money but rather how it would look like if he just got bluffed or folded to over played A9
@tassv5909
@tassv5909 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Doug Polk Poker. One of the better videos. Great thinking and analysis, very in depth and I enjoyed the manners of telling Koon your hand at the end and the "there are some people I would lie to but not Koon".
@InterWebGuy99
@InterWebGuy99 6 жыл бұрын
Doug loves the game of poker and the competition. The money is just to keep score. Classy player who is a credit to the game we love.
@janman1439
@janman1439 7 жыл бұрын
Not only are the poker hands so well synchronized that they both constitute full houses, but also the physical hands playing poker became quantum entangled at 5:18
@dennybm
@dennybm 7 жыл бұрын
That's pretty amazing... almost looks deliberate
@dennybm
@dennybm 7 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia: "Mirroring body language is an excellent way to build trust and understanding quickly. If you want to establish a connection with a new person, mirror his or her posture, gestures, sitting position, tone of voice and talking pace. This will make them feel that there is something about you that they like."
@gabrejj
@gabrejj 7 жыл бұрын
that read
@tazplay3476
@tazplay3476 7 жыл бұрын
lol doug such a live fish
@MrStobie8
@MrStobie8 7 жыл бұрын
Haha brilliant!
@Kevin_Roche
@Kevin_Roche 7 жыл бұрын
Respect to Koon. What a fold...
@footballfan8989
@footballfan8989 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was amazing. But a for a $200k bet you'd better be sure you're ahead.
@Battlegroundinho
@Battlegroundinho 5 жыл бұрын
@@koslim Til you don't bet a fullhouse on the river. You'll never play these stakes so please stay quiet
@369-n2e
@369-n2e 5 жыл бұрын
@@koslim you mean that river bet was perfect. The raise was very stupied . Jason koon Lost minimum and that river bet was so Good you don't understand.
@peaterAAA
@peaterAAA 5 жыл бұрын
@@koslim Well he must have some fold equity since he did fold. I think that the small overbet on the river gave him the info he needed to be able to fold. As you said, he gave the impression that he would call anything on the river considering that "stupid overbet size" in that perticullar situation ... and it does dramatically decrease the chance of being bluffed or raised by any kind of 9. That river bet gave him the option to fold quite accurately on the river. The reality is that à river bet of 30k on the river to get raised to 90k-100k by Doug would make it impossible to fold.
@woswasdenni1914
@woswasdenni1914 5 жыл бұрын
its was a very good fold yes, amazong? no. with bottom full this is a bet fold spot. he polarized himself to force any trips into a bad spot, same time its really hard to bluff against that. so a reraise there almost always has you beat. i agree with polk that A9 would be a much better call than 33, however i disagree on that clear value raise with 77. while there not many suited combos out there, still more than half of your opponents valuerange ahs you beat. your opponent need specifically 33, A9s, 10-9s, J9s and maybe Q9s to call you here, everything else is either air or has you beat. so 77s on that baord are actually kinda dicy, and more of a very thin value raise. polarizing that much will fold out often 33, 9-10, adn q9. i think A9 is always a call with not no 93s combos only only a few 97s/k9s combos out there so he target A9 specifically if we consider our opponent can now fold the weaker ones. bluff catching isnt really that apealing as played, with that checkraise on the turn koon basically says he has a fullhouse or A9 at a minimum. with that said bluffing should be much less frequent, so bluffcatching even less.
@Adam-bw7fv
@Adam-bw7fv 7 жыл бұрын
Doug, some minor feedback for you: I think it would be better/more suspenseful if you omit the size of the pot in the title? I was clearly interested in seeing what develops throughout this hand but knew Koon was folding on the river after seeing there was $309k in the pot after your river jam. I get the idea that listing the actual size of the pot probably gets you more clicks/views so if that's your priority then I understand. Maybe instead title it: I have SET OVER SET in a massive six figure pot! (or something similar).
@RossAlexFlips
@RossAlexFlips 7 жыл бұрын
Adam agree with you.
@ianboylan1981
@ianboylan1981 7 жыл бұрын
I agree as well. It isn't a huge annoyance, but it does give away what the action is.
@michaelgrillo5326
@michaelgrillo5326 7 жыл бұрын
He already said that he does that because in the internet world you need the click bait but maybe he should consider exaggerating. Call it a $403,000 pot, and when the fold happens we can all be "da fuk?" :)
@rado9230
@rado9230 7 жыл бұрын
Agree. Closest thing to a spoiler
@luukverhoek4243
@luukverhoek4243 7 жыл бұрын
Adam yeah agree. Knowing the outcome is boring
@jeremyallen8955
@jeremyallen8955 7 жыл бұрын
Great fold by Mr. Koon. He really has been world class for a long while though. True he doesn't beat many, if any hands Doug shoves for value there, it's still astonishing to see how high level these guys really are. Great hand.
@drewf8619
@drewf8619 7 жыл бұрын
Good fold for sure... Not many players fold a boat vs Doug. That said, the king on the river (and the fact that he (Koon) overbet the river) makes a fold a *little* easier because if Doug had Kings, he would have played this the exact same way and AA or A9s would just fold or flat to an overbet... Although, it would be interesting to see if Koon could still get away if the river was a 2 (or the equivalent). For Koon to get away then, he has to put him on (almost) exactly 77.
@clarksvillekid7177
@clarksvillekid7177 7 жыл бұрын
Good fold
@RushGoal1Nil
@RushGoal1Nil 7 жыл бұрын
It's an easy fold
@TankAssTanner
@TankAssTanner 5 жыл бұрын
@@drewf8619 I agree. Good fold, but the river overbet was the best play on JK's part. If someone bets over the top of it they have you beat 99% of the time. The overbet saved him a lot of money by removing any real chance of Doug polarizing at the end.
@kkkkdidikddd9033
@kkkkdidikddd9033 4 жыл бұрын
Against nit thats easy fold(not so easy when u have that shit on your hand fr😂) but against Doug its so hard to fold when dude jammin every other river💯😂
@davinanderson2003
@davinanderson2003 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been away from poker for a few years but after watching a few dozen of your videos I think I’m gonna start playing again. You’re a great speaker communicator and content creator.
@GMeazza
@GMeazza 7 жыл бұрын
I think you need to work on your game face. It doesn't give much away, but it looks like you're trying to take a particularly difficult shit, sort of a mixture of pain and concentration.
@kkkkdidikddd9033
@kkkkdidikddd9033 4 жыл бұрын
Looool😂😂😭
@skimobmix
@skimobmix 7 жыл бұрын
Love the in depth analysis regarding card removal, available combos, and precise ranges!! Keep it up duuude!
@renato4551
@renato4551 7 жыл бұрын
17:47 That serious face though.....Seriously, though this was an excellent vid full of golden nuggets of information. thanks, Doug.
@smaze1782
@smaze1782 7 жыл бұрын
Love the Neeme cameo.
@DavideMassaJudo
@DavideMassaJudo 6 жыл бұрын
How great is that???...
@louskunts2160
@louskunts2160 7 жыл бұрын
Very familiar with card removal but the spade talk with the K 9 kind of blew my mind a little... definitely wouldn't have thought of that being the only suited K 9 available
@VerissimusAurelius
@VerissimusAurelius 6 жыл бұрын
Yes, that insight blew me the F away....
@geoffbeyer1873
@geoffbeyer1873 6 жыл бұрын
word
@JimCarel
@JimCarel 6 жыл бұрын
jes if there is only a bb k9o is myby in but (ev not against doug) but against bb and straddle this handbecome a clear fold
@TankAssTanner
@TankAssTanner 6 жыл бұрын
I know, right? I consider myself to be a really good amateur that accounts for card removal, but I never would have made that connection. The more you know...
@swedlifeboiii9619
@swedlifeboiii9619 7 жыл бұрын
avid chess player, world of warcraft expert world cybergame tournament damn doug you must have hit so much gash back then
@CockBurnn
@CockBurnn 7 жыл бұрын
Oh Douglas
@Daniel-ng8fi
@Daniel-ng8fi 6 жыл бұрын
You should see his leather jacket, the man clearly slayed!
@Ohrami
@Ohrami 5 жыл бұрын
Warcraft 3, not World of Warcraft
@Sensimuse
@Sensimuse 7 жыл бұрын
Set over set? Favorable situation.
@rico4141
@rico4141 7 жыл бұрын
nice the plugin after that :-)
@jimm1346
@jimm1346 5 жыл бұрын
Alot of time I listen to you analyze hands I think go on and on and kinda over a analyze the hands and its hard to keep listening but I do respect you and appreciate all your wisdom.
@TheHoaxHotel
@TheHoaxHotel 7 жыл бұрын
Cue 3's & 7's by Queens of the Stone Age
@MightyManotaur22
@MightyManotaur22 5 жыл бұрын
great song
@48tho-averysalak39
@48tho-averysalak39 7 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man I see a give away I enter I don't win
@edide1627
@edide1627 7 жыл бұрын
That's because you're a simple man, On a seriouse note how do get notified if I win , (Im only subscribed to hes youtube channel but I think that counnts as one entry for the giveaway) , does he upload a video on youtube selecting the winner or winners or how does he do it ?
@48tho-averysalak39
@48tho-averysalak39 7 жыл бұрын
EdI de - he typically announces on Facebook
@edide1627
@edide1627 7 жыл бұрын
I don't use facebook so i guess I cant win then, or even if I win I wont know about it , thanks anyway.
@elvenmagejr1905
@elvenmagejr1905 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple man I'm a single man
@quiksix25
@quiksix25 7 жыл бұрын
Best graphics I've seen on the hand info- very clear on what's going on
@ArielHerzog
@ArielHerzog 5 жыл бұрын
The oversized bet lead on the river by Jason made it much easier to lay it down when he got raised since his range is so polarized. If he only bet half pot, Doug could see that at as a sign of weakness and Jason could justify a call since Doug may be making a move. But an overbet means that if Doug reraises he is basically never bluffing and of course he wouldn't do it unless he was full.
@seankennedy4284
@seankennedy4284 6 жыл бұрын
"...some really great players MIGHT be able to lay this one down." Classy.
@elastronaute1198
@elastronaute1198 6 жыл бұрын
I think its truly amazing koon didn't get stacked here, but I appreciate doug played it this way for balance overall. I think that's an important concept, this is like the best possible situation almost.
@LTDANMAN44
@LTDANMAN44 7 жыл бұрын
Good stuff in this video. Thank you Doug for all you do for us!!!
@vladsavchenko9176
@vladsavchenko9176 5 жыл бұрын
And after two years I've noticed that Doug spent 3 minutes talking about the difference between making a pot sized river raise or a larger size when JK had just one pot behind.
@williamhubel4643
@williamhubel4643 7 жыл бұрын
That's actually really interesting that there's only one K9 suited left, hadn't thought of that
@Yoman1289
@Yoman1289 6 жыл бұрын
"I don't even fold my laundry" - Doug Polk, 2017
@vladbcom
@vladbcom 6 жыл бұрын
@6:30 "Polk's not gonna pull plug on his ventilator yet.." HAHAHAHAH
@thatazn15
@thatazn15 7 жыл бұрын
Holy shit thats an insane fold, especially because Jason has to know your 100% capable of bluff-raising river there.
@sodi4069
@sodi4069 6 жыл бұрын
3:01 "Rather Favorable" goes to Andrew and his bs clothing line HAHAHA Doug is so funny I swear this guy would've been great at anything..
@Alex-gb8em
@Alex-gb8em 7 жыл бұрын
always love the Rounders reference
@Badbentham
@Badbentham 7 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with most parts of the video. Only questions I have are about the size of the river reraise and Koon`s calling range for that price. Blocking bluffs with (J9s)/T9s/98s, the J being the least harmful, feels to -noobish- me about as ugly than not blocking K9s/97s ( 3 combos, after all!) with 33 ; - A9s, and the highly unlikely Q9s, is obv a very clear call. As basically all of J9s/T9s/98s/33 have a rather difficult time for the price, while we represent a pretty nutted range (we are after all at the very bottom end of our thin-value-squeezing here) , I could see a slightly smaller bet showing more benefit in the long term.
@dking1975
@dking1975 7 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the comme tary about what is going through Dougs Head during a hand. I myself may have bet 7-8k on the turn card but after listening to tour thoughts will interract that in my own game thanks
@BrentWolgamott
@BrentWolgamott 7 жыл бұрын
WOW. I did not see this hand when it originally aired, so I didn't know what the result was -- AWESOME laydown from Koon. God, he's become such a good poker player.
@jjm442
@jjm442 7 жыл бұрын
Doug you're clearly a clever guy but you do so many giveaways and always seem to forget about them it's mind blowing
@drewf8619
@drewf8619 7 жыл бұрын
It's a highly edited video. He didn't forget about anything. It just flowed better to do it that way.
@CoZzyvvr
@CoZzyvvr 7 жыл бұрын
Its okay guys... drew is here. We didnt know. Now we do know. Thanks drew
@OldieBones
@OldieBones 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks Drew for clearing that up, just in case he wasn't joking.
@CoZzyvvr
@CoZzyvvr 7 жыл бұрын
😒
@elijahpickens
@elijahpickens 7 жыл бұрын
+drew f Nope. Doug Polk clearly just has a bad memory...
@geekconnoisseur
@geekconnoisseur 7 жыл бұрын
I can't believe he folded... what a smart move. I would have preferred seeing an instant ALL-IN from Koon at the river acting like he would have the strongest hand possible. ~that would have been even more awesome!
@MicahLoughman
@MicahLoughman 7 жыл бұрын
Wow what a fold! I want to see Berkey and Polk play heads up!
@MK-qz7sg
@MK-qz7sg 7 жыл бұрын
DID HE FOLD?? OMG!!!! No human could do that... I used to play him on midstakes like2y ago... Now hes def one of the toppest players in the world... And I say that as a former pro player. big bow for Koon
@willh4340
@willh4340 7 жыл бұрын
That awkward moment when you troll the wrong guy, and you mean to troll Andrew Neeme, but troll Andrew Koon instead. Lol
@tutumassola
@tutumassola 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Doug! On the topic of your comment on the end about "great players might be able to fold this spot", Ike folded a fullhouse vs Maria in the shark cage last year if I'm not mistaken! Would be really cool to see you playing a heads up hand (or even a heads up no limit game...!) against him! Love ur vids, keep up the great work! :)
@liebesaenliebeernten9418
@liebesaenliebeernten9418 7 жыл бұрын
Doug, one suggestion: Instead of spoilering the actual size of the pot you'd do yourself as well as your viewers a huge favor if you instead took the potential effective combined stack sizes and thus potential pot size that might result on the felt. That way you're not spoilering whether the hand will be folded at a certain stage and you have the added benefit of the pot potentially being able to be much more huge than it actually was. I think that's a neat solution. Wondering what you think about that.
@CribNotes
@CribNotes 6 жыл бұрын
"Doug, you're not the guy to fold full houses to, man". @18:00 love the looks on the other players faces as if "Did Koon just say what I think he said???"
@seankelley1442
@seankelley1442 7 жыл бұрын
Yes! Chess After Dark! Who's with me? Wait...no one? Got to love the nod to Neeme! Another great vid! Keep up the good work and let me know if there is going to be another giveaway!
@andynonymous2164
@andynonymous2164 7 жыл бұрын
5:50. Awesome synchronized check shuffling!
@michaelkalustian7269
@michaelkalustian7269 7 жыл бұрын
2 thoughts here. Pro level fold by Koon. A lot of people can talk when they see the cards, but in the heat of battle, it would to fold a full house. The second thing is that it’s nice to see that Doug hasn’t forgotten the $5/$10 grinders like Andrew Neeme and Brad Owen now that he’s hit the big time. Many people forget their old friends once they reach a new level. Doug shows nice character and maturity by keeping close to his old mates. Good luck in the future Doug.
@TheTTL1997
@TheTTL1997 7 жыл бұрын
I think the reason he is friends with neeme and brad is because they are all youtubers. I'm pretty sure doug wasnt friends with them before they made a name for themselves with their vlogs, but its still nice that he is friends with them. I just wouldnt call them "old friends"
@sneakytucky
@sneakytucky 7 жыл бұрын
Doug, do we have any bluffs here at the river? Im not sure what bluffs we call OTT and then raise OTR or are we raising a hand that can't win if we call? great video, the A9 call over the boat with 33 is a great analysis, tyvm
@ninovalentijn
@ninovalentijn 7 жыл бұрын
he named 73s at the end of the analysis. that's like half a combo though considering 73s is mostly gonna be a check or bet-fold on the turn. I think K7s works really well too but again that's a marginal turn bet-call
@MrAndersonmm
@MrAndersonmm 7 жыл бұрын
I really can't think of many combos. K7s and 73s are the only combos I can think of. Normally I'd say your weaker trips, but weak trips block straight cards (69, 89, T9, J9) and Q9+ is probably too profitable just calling since your opponent has all of those hands. A7s maybe?
@MBMASTR
@MBMASTR 7 жыл бұрын
What about TT, it blocks possible bluffcathers T9 combos.
@MrAndersonmm
@MrAndersonmm 7 жыл бұрын
When you're bluffing, you want to not have cards you want your opponent to have. TT blocks T8 and JT, both hands you'd like your opponent to have. On this board any 6, 8, T or J is a bad card to have since it blocks the most likely bluff hands from your opponent (straight draws). Since it's hard to get to this river without those cards in your hand yourself, unless you have a monster, it's hard to have too many bluffs.
@MBMASTR
@MBMASTR 7 жыл бұрын
Ok then what about 1 combo of AA with ace of heart and Ace of spade. Blocking A9s. It is better bluffcatcher i guess, just trying to thing about bluffs. But if i thing about good bluffs if we dont have ones the bluffs can make propably better profit if he is overfolding there.
@jamesbell1613
@jamesbell1613 2 жыл бұрын
Great analysis on the turn! You can also min raise the turn with J4 off and call s jam...
@mekan0001
@mekan0001 7 жыл бұрын
Andrew Neeme knows what's up.
@neil2920
@neil2920 7 жыл бұрын
but he wouldn't be able to fold as JaKoon did
@oyuyuy
@oyuyuy 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty generous to say that Koon has 3 combos that beat you. I don't think neither 99 nor 97s is in his range.
@hollywoodpoker9512
@hollywoodpoker9512 3 жыл бұрын
Howd you feel when he said, “well I have a full house” and you only beat 1 boat lol
@nicks210684
@nicks210684 3 жыл бұрын
There’s not many better boats that are credible though. KK is never played is this way. 93 definitely folds preflop. So I guess the only two hands you’d be worried are the suited combos K9 spades and 97 spades. And I think even those hands would be questionable preflop calls from the small blind with two more blinds left to act. But even still there’s two combos that beat you and three you beat.
@jasonmarlow2147
@jasonmarlow2147 3 жыл бұрын
A better boat would have insta-called so I’d feel pretty good still.
@LoLleavemealonePLZ
@LoLleavemealonePLZ 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicks210684 9 3 suited might be one to go with preflop, in the small or big blind, as you're already invested in the pot, and you might as well see a flop (who knows, maybe you flop a flush or flush draw, as well as the potential for two pair). I tend to play any suited cards if I'm in the small or big, so long as it hasn't been raised up massively. Saying that, I did call an all in preflop earlier today with 7 2 suited and won the hand with a pair of 2s so my credibility isn't the best
@truetrue2963
@truetrue2963 7 жыл бұрын
Doug always has the deepest stack at the table lol love it
@LikesDrThompson
@LikesDrThompson 7 жыл бұрын
Great river analysis. By far the most interesting street for this hand. Great fold most would snap. Blockers discussion was very interesting .
@kenc165
@kenc165 7 жыл бұрын
Build the pot! Love it, great analysis, always entertaining. I've seen you play many times, you're truly a class act at the table and that's sometimes nearly impossible to be. Glad to see you win a nice pot.
@jolaz69
@jolaz69 7 жыл бұрын
Nice shout out to Neeme. You should show up at one of his meet up games at the Westgate. You might have fun.
@jasonfarkas6878
@jasonfarkas6878 7 жыл бұрын
Loved the tip of the cap to Neeme (literally) in the vid. Favorable.
@jluchette
@jluchette 7 жыл бұрын
Notification peeps represent. Thanks for Poker Hands, your generosity, and everything you do for poker. Respect, Doug.
@Joker_0o
@Joker_0o 5 жыл бұрын
Atleast he felt better after laying it down the comfort of knowing he was beat I mean the way Polk played he could have figured he didn’t have the 9 didn’t have 9 3 from his perspective or 9 7. You made it a little easier for him jamming he couldn’t call that much
@brett7011
@brett7011 7 жыл бұрын
Sick fold. Respect.
@loduk102
@loduk102 4 жыл бұрын
@15:53 you say having a 9 is actually better. I'd just like to correct you by saying More rake is actually better!
@theartof2ndplace237
@theartof2ndplace237 5 жыл бұрын
Classy move to not revel in the moment of taking down the pot @Doug Polk Poker! I've seen some that take joy in rubbing it in. You, my sir, are a classy card player! P.S. I'd love to play you sometime, but I don't have the money 😂
@charlesmondon1803
@charlesmondon1803 7 жыл бұрын
Ooh the recent memories when I got stacked a month ago in a 1-2 game! I had 33 against a very undervalued AA on a 223AQ board. Still feel the pain.
@kylemuchow9198
@kylemuchow9198 2 жыл бұрын
His sizing on the river is good because he completely polarized his opponent if he gets raised. if he bets 30 k on the river and polk raises to 80-120k he likely makes the call
@reecelightner
@reecelightner 5 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t that river card hurt and that’s why it would be best to re-raise the turn? You have a lot of 9’s in your range and you have a better chance to get stacks in.
@mixedman841
@mixedman841 5 жыл бұрын
I really like your bet size on the turn and logic behind it. I also perfer just calling the raise since your in position. Out of position i'd say reraise and bomb the river. King was a lttle scary though. He could have taken that line with kings I suppose, although the early action pretty much reads that he doesn't have Kings because I doubt he doesn't raise preflop and check the flop on that board unless he's running some kind of trap or simply balancing his range. But yeah smash the river either way IMO.
@209brandonb
@209brandonb 7 жыл бұрын
How does he fold to doug
@bigtexnick2188
@bigtexnick2188 7 жыл бұрын
Because unless Doug is making a super crazy bluff, his bet on the river proves that he must have Koon beat and is not making that move with a worse hand.
@cp9105
@cp9105 7 жыл бұрын
he has plenty of jj-qq and aa to bluff with
@twelvetwelvetwelve1212
@twelvetwelvetwelve1212 7 жыл бұрын
Those aren't the best bluffing hands though
@johnparsons6146
@johnparsons6146 7 жыл бұрын
That question right there is what doug wants you to say.
@JimCarel
@JimCarel 6 жыл бұрын
no with this hands he doesnt blocks anything important. i am not a pro but i try to follow dougs logic.
@The31JOEISANERDS
@The31JOEISANERDS 7 жыл бұрын
I think this is the first hand i've seen you include which isn't Aces or Kings
@mrcomment6644
@mrcomment6644 6 жыл бұрын
Did you raise him all in on the river? Or were stack sizes listed incorrectly? Don't you think a smaller raise would be better OTR to 130k seeing as there is not too many worse hands you can get value from ? would you bluff any hands with this line other than maybe 73s?
@traingp7
@traingp7 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Rounders. He was thinking "Here's the beauty of this game I flopped a set of three's and I want to keep him in the hand."
@vikashagarwal5027
@vikashagarwal5027 7 жыл бұрын
Doug, can you please explain the combos of hands you were talking about in most of the videos.
@SpaceMotorist
@SpaceMotorist 7 жыл бұрын
Please donate me your hair for science.
@SpaceMotorist
@SpaceMotorist 7 жыл бұрын
No sir. Buuuuut, can I have some of your hair for science too?
@Unflushablepiss
@Unflushablepiss 7 жыл бұрын
Lumpkins dont ui klnow its rude to ask a girl about her hair?
@SpaceMotorist
@SpaceMotorist 7 жыл бұрын
BosoxnationI972, yes yes, for "science" muwahaha
@elvenmagejr1905
@elvenmagejr1905 6 жыл бұрын
I'll sell you my pubic hair for science
@shendrix4540
@shendrix4540 6 жыл бұрын
Yall still selling pubes? I know a friend who needs some.
@jodyfayant2071
@jodyfayant2071 7 жыл бұрын
Amazing analysis but a larger bet on the flop gets way more of his chips if not all. I get the theory though for the small sizing, thx.
@joshuahoggard6257
@joshuahoggard6257 7 жыл бұрын
Doug, the river play seems counter intuitive! Why wouldn't K7 of spades be a a better bluff? Surely this is the best hand since it blocks 77 & eliminates K9 which is the certain calling range & 33 can be in the value folding range. So blocking a 3 becomes closer to mutual V Koon. When you tiny bet the flop & turn wouldn''t K7 be in your range or is it folding to the check raise? And over-pairs are calling? To pot control & check the turn with a K7 after the flop action (+ Preflop) seems mental. Very strange hand. Koon is only really representing 33. Since you would expect like K9 T9 to 3 bet most of the time. Therefore, Koon is surely folding most hands in his range? Correct? Koon calling with 77+? Only calling with a 9 seems questionable, Since couldn't you add A9 into your range? Get called by more combos of 9s and get occasionally full houses to fold? 6 cpmbos of 77 (+ 0.5 of a combo of K9) you will lose to but you will beat more 9s if Koon sticks to calling trips.Assuming all suited 9s flat preflop.
@truthsmiles
@truthsmiles 5 жыл бұрын
Wow I must actually be learning something... I was calculating card removal on the turn before Doug even mentioned it. I'm sure I'd still find a way to go broke though.
@kookoo275
@kookoo275 6 жыл бұрын
5:15 both players playing with their chips in sync
@joshuapatrick682
@joshuapatrick682 Жыл бұрын
Could you ever turn trips into a bluff here if he’s bet folding full houses or should that just always be a call?
@jacksondickery509
@jacksondickery509 Жыл бұрын
Where is the spot in this game???
@Joseph-ny5rr
@Joseph-ny5rr 7 ай бұрын
Death row lineup 😂 there is no spot in this game.
@Unlikely_Hero
@Unlikely_Hero 7 жыл бұрын
I respect this fold though. I think he can put Doug on pretty much 77s, or an out of character huge-balls bluff.. perhaps KK, but most likely 77. The way the play went I think he showed some sense and discipline to make the fold in any case with a boat. It's one of those moments when you have to think, the board is paired, is this raise real? -- FML-FOLD. Well done both. Doug I don't mind your raise-size (if it's a shove sorry I don't have sound on). Thanks for the hand broseph!
@dochmbi
@dochmbi 7 жыл бұрын
Poker is a platonist game played in the true world of ideas. The greatest players know this and are not concerned with the this-worldly individual hands but rather with range and strategy construction. The funny thing is that at the lowest level players ignore others and only think of their own strategy, at the highest level too its the same.
@Sgt.Gamble
@Sgt.Gamble 7 жыл бұрын
Strong Double Chin action from Polk probably the reason for the fold on the river by Koon
@manifestyourlife6
@manifestyourlife6 4 жыл бұрын
Sick lay down by Koon, though I'm sure he too thought of what hands he doesn't block.
@JeoJetsonmusic
@JeoJetsonmusic 7 жыл бұрын
I think it’s a pretty straightforward fold in that spot. Can you tell us why you didn’t make your bet look more like a bluff? Because at least in my opinion that Bet looked like you were betting for value and what hands Bet for value on that board? Now I could be wrong here but it seems like no matter what considering that line that you took he should always fold pocket 3s
@jolaz69
@jolaz69 7 жыл бұрын
Doug, I think you could have extracted more money with a raise on the turn to say $45k. That might tell the story that you have a hand like A9 and could lead to re-raise where you get stacks in right there. The pot size raise on the river screams of a full house (or less likely a bluff) and 33 only beats a bluff there.
@1chance4life76
@1chance4life76 7 жыл бұрын
wow nice hand and nice laydown! Makes me wonder though if you made river raise to like 149k or 95k to call if it would open up a wider range of calling hands like mabye even A9 or better, the K on the river he might not of even repop it with k9 cause the smaller raise would make him think you might have quads for value or maybe even kks full
@ww2079
@ww2079 5 жыл бұрын
When he check raised you on the turn it's soooo likely he has the 9 ( or smaller boat) that you can reraise there and not lose him often. It's like what hand is he check raising that turn with? A straight draw on a paired board? There's no flush draw. So you almost always have him coolered there when he check-raises you on the turn, no reason to get cute, just try to get it in there, ace or king on the river maybe he finds a big fold for a ton of blinds thinking you got to a higher boat on the river and doesn't lose all his chips. He's never folding on the turn.
@ww2079
@ww2079 5 жыл бұрын
Ok so the king hit the river You got check raised on the turn so he's repping trip 9 or better there. Then you raise him on the river when the king hits. You're repping Kings full really only here. He knows u have a bigger boat or a stone bluff. I have it paused let's see if he calls, obv he does becasue ur capable of the bluff.
@ww2079
@ww2079 5 жыл бұрын
Wow he folded the monster on the river. Yep easy fold for him the way it played out. You either have Kings full or nothing and he didn't think you had nothing the way the hand played. You needed to rerasie on the turn. Then you prolly get all his chips. You won just about the minimum here.
@ww2079
@ww2079 5 жыл бұрын
It's like you just have to let the cooler happen. Assume he's got ace 9 or 33 there on that turn and reraise him. That's how u get all his chips and win a monster pot. You cant get too cute or the chips don't get it. If you reraise that turn you put him in an insanely tough spot. Let that spot happen, too much trapping blocked your chance at winning a monster pot. Rerasie the turn in this exact spot every time should be your advice, and you should be saying you didn't play the hand optimally, especially considering the texture of the board on the turn. So likely you had him coolered when he check raises u there.
@LeschetizkyTTV
@LeschetizkyTTV 5 жыл бұрын
14:20 try to stack 33 or 77? So many questions. What are the odds that my opponent has the fifth seven in his hand? How does he get stacked when he calls? Is it because he has a fouled hand, meaning that sometimes one of his sevens is also the seven of hearts, and he forfeits the pot?
@nicolarossini1938
@nicolarossini1938 4 жыл бұрын
stupid question: After Koon check raised on the turn, in his position would have not been maybe more coherent to check river? in case Polk was bluffing? Or in his mind you risk to loose too many value from hand that might check behind since you just called pre flop? if someone more advance than me could clarify this would be amazing for me thanks a lot in advance
@ml.2770
@ml.2770 6 жыл бұрын
By the time he was 5 he had his first fauxhawk, by 15 he was getting lessons from the grand master David Beckham. Now he is one of the world's greatest and has begun training his own acolytes of the hair wax.
@eagleslandin1692
@eagleslandin1692 7 жыл бұрын
@Doug Polk Poker 16:20 - “9 3 suited is not very likely”. Actually 9 3 suited is not possible for your range to have, so its an impossibility
@blee5100
@blee5100 7 жыл бұрын
Why?
@eagleslandin1692
@eagleslandin1692 7 жыл бұрын
jjj hhh what combos of 93 suited are possible? None.
@blee5100
@blee5100 7 жыл бұрын
why?
@eagleslandin1692
@eagleslandin1692 7 жыл бұрын
jjj hhh from Koon’s perspective, he blocks 9 3 of clubs and hearts. 9 3 of diamond is not possible. Therefore, he can NEVER have 93 suited in this position
@blee5100
@blee5100 7 жыл бұрын
I think he's speaking from his own perspective during the hand
@krishall3187
@krishall3187 7 жыл бұрын
Well played Doug and thought threw commentary.. I thought the river raise for value was way to big though.
@Janet_Airlines802
@Janet_Airlines802 4 жыл бұрын
So now that you are playing again will we see the return of polker hands?
@Roman-cv2pd
@Roman-cv2pd 6 жыл бұрын
It looks like the pot size raise on the river is effectively putting Koon all in. Maybe that’s why he gets away along with his read on Doug’s potential hands of course. But let’s say Doug raises 2.5x on the river to 125k, would Koon still fold or would he get max value? Even as silly as it sounds min raising here would definitely get a call since he’s getting like 4:1. Thoughts guys??
@RodgerRamjet
@RodgerRamjet 6 жыл бұрын
love the breakdown analytics... yea,, its easier to wrap your head around a fold, and not really look at the board as a full house, but, what do you beat with what Doug is repping here..i have to wonder if A9s was in his thought process, as that was a serious possible hand for Doug.. K9.. i dont think he ( doug) bets as big, and i DO think Doug over bet.. i think he raises to $115K.. he gets a call.. maybe a reshove but at least a call, thinking AK was trying a semi bluff, or A9s.. etc.. just a thought..
@Johnsir88
@Johnsir88 5 жыл бұрын
But wouldn't you turn trips into a bluff occasionally in this spot? Would unblocking your straight-draw cards be best?
@josephmasko6099
@josephmasko6099 6 жыл бұрын
I am curious why k9 spades was only option. I’m not really poker smart but I’m guessing he wouldn’t be in from the beginning with k9 off?
@mioszsiedlecki9185
@mioszsiedlecki9185 7 жыл бұрын
You give him 2:1 so he needs to be right 33% of the time. So you have to bluffing 33% of the time. You have 19 combo value (KK/99/77/K9s/K9o/97s/97o) so you need to have around 9 combo of bluffs. What hands would you choose to bluff with? JTs and 73s it's 5 combo, guessing some JTo some % of the time?
@oyuyuy
@oyuyuy 7 жыл бұрын
Isn't it better to raise 77 on the turn on that board? The raise on the river looks way too strong imo. It's easier to rep a bluff on the turn.
@connorcrump3825
@connorcrump3825 6 жыл бұрын
Well if the K didn't come on the river it would have made it easier as well
@ianboylan1981
@ianboylan1981 7 жыл бұрын
Well played from you both there. Great hand to watch. I've only been able to fold 2 full houses in my life, both were easy folds though, not like this fold. I had 3 jacks and a queen paired on the river, my opponent was a nit who never bet the river unless they had it, so I dumped my Jacks full(they then showed a queen for a higher queens full). Another I had hit a set of 9's and the board paired on the end(2 kings) with a queen also on the board, and again, nit player who never raised, unless they had the nuts or second nuts. Knew they had king queen and threw the cards away in an instant. 😂😂
@bradleylauterbach2415
@bradleylauterbach2415 7 жыл бұрын
I love how nobody is talking about how that guy got away from 3's full of 9's. Was there a tell? Dude made a MONSTER lay down.
@mikegern3397
@mikegern3397 6 жыл бұрын
How have I missed this video. THIS IS FUNNY AND GENIUS
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