I Immediately Regret Switching to the Ronin 4D

[@CAPTAINDRONE798]

The back focus has a simple fix and that is to go to the LENS menu and select NA for lens in use. I also bought the DJI zoom lens and it took me an hour to figure out the issue and I was also disappointed that all the KZbinrs who received the FREE sponsored DJI products never mentioned it in their videos.

[@ericneo2]

You've discovered the issue I have with tech reviewers on KZbin. None of them talk about the cons or faults of a product anymore. They only advertise the products. You want a new camera? Sorry that Sony camera only does 50p and 10 minute recordings, why does nobody talk about this? You want 60p and longer recording sorry you need the US only version of the same camera but no one is going to tell you that.

[@ericneo2]

@@potatorigs2155 And you're clearly trolling.🤡

[@zivzulander]

This seems to be more of an issue with companies that can gatekeep access to their products, which typically is going to happen more with very expensive products like this that reviewers are less likely to just go out and buy retail. So I don't think this is true across all of tech, but it probably is more prevalent in cinema/production cameras than smartphones, computer components, laptops, etc.

[@daniellove162]

I love KZbin tech reviewers. I get the dopamine hit of buying the new gear by just watching the reviews. I watch enough to get tired of the product before spending a dime. By the way if people REALLY kept buying useless gear merely because KZbinrs told them too the resale market would have loads of cheep barely used gear. It doesn’t.

[@CoalitionGaming]

You must be watching all the wrong channels to get your info lol. Gerald Undone, Dpreview/PetaPixel, and Camera Conspiracies go over stuff like exactly what you listed all the time.

[@ericneo2]

@@CoalitionGaming Congrats on finding some you consider exceptions but they are not the majority.

[@tom_ep]

Make sure the lens profile you're using is NA and do not calibrate it. Ours works perfect. This also applies to other lenses like our Sony 55 1.8. Flawless autofocus.

[@heyty]

This!

[@buddyfx7026]

Yup! Not that DJI isn't hard to work with but 100%

[@everonproducties]

How do you uncalibrate the lens? Or is that not needed when just set to NA

[@1TheIceman1]

I would be more than pissed after spending that money on a cinema grade kit...

[@BLAXPHOTO]

Interesting, I’ve had this camera for a while and never experienced “back focusing”. I did have an issue where I accidentally built a profile for the lens but learned that you don’t and shouldn’t use a profile.

[@Joechungphotography]

Why is this? Did it look worse than the standard color profile?

[@BLAXPHOTO]

The 17-28 is profiled in the firmware I believe, so there isn't a need and if you do, the lens doesn't respond properly. BTW I love this camera and use it a lot. I have footage on my channel, granted I'm not some epic video editor / colorists.@@Joechungphotography

[@MichalOlender]

Yeah, reading instructions before using a complex machinery is way overrated these days...

[@MrXDyDlax]

why no youtuber talk about that ? well simple, they get paid, most youtuber will automatiquely remove most bad thing, as some of you said the youtube tech is a dark area, we can't trust youtube for honest review that why we should research on most platform possible, forum, social media... as we can, btw I suspect some youtuber to not testing at all, some just turn it on, do a video and that it

[@scottjohnson3017]

This is why you always rent before going all in on an Ecosystem, in order to see how well it integrates into your workflow.

[@neomamuro]

Well, KZbinrs that highlights flaws do not get stuff to review (unless you're LTT or MKBHD). Some of the best product reviewers I follow have horrible subscriber counts, and even they do have a tendency to put their criticism in a "positive" light, rather than the "burn all 'em bridges" approach Gamers Nexus is trying to take.😅

[@CrackstationFilms]

You don’t have to keep it at 17mm just have to calibrate what focal length you are in

[@momo_kourikch]

To solve the lens back focusing problem, just go to the lens calibration menu (when the lens is mounted) and put it on N/A. 👍🏽

[@frankcunha6215]

Have these negative issues been resolved since you posted this video?

[@Lycan3303]

camera cost more than my car

[@SouthernLocks]

This cam set up is ahead of its time. Reminds me of the very first $400 iPhone where it was new to jave a crazy data plan with no insurance protection and you had to buy at ATT. You also had to jail break your phone and that voided out the manufacturer warranty. If you brike your phone, the only replacemwnt plan was buying a refurbished iPhone. People eventually adapted and paid. $400 was a crazy peice for a cell phone at the time and people paid for it. Most those issues got resolved pewtty quickly

[@aarongraham238]

I've been watching for years, and I don't remember seeing the car reviews. Was that when Hot News and UFDTech were different channels?

[@ytmaxxammo8591]

Ya because those “KZbinrs”are being sponsored by DJI.

[@curties]

messed up that a +7k camera doesnt work as intended. btw. the follow feat is kinda creepy xD

[@wietsevisser270]

Did they now fix all these software problems that you mention? Ore still no updates?

[@M2008tw]

You can go a long way with a tripod. Think about the framing and which camera settings you will use, decide which of these will work for the story you want to tell. If you do it well, it will be more cinematic - when do you need a hand-held camera? Maybe for your B-roll and your DJI Ronin with spider web 😊 comes into its own if you want to stabilize the shot. Oh yes, lighting and focal point - right now there is far too much that takes attention in the picture.

[@VeganLinked]

I have the Ronin S3 and raven eye attaches right underneath the camera perfectly and doesn't mess up the balance. Did you ever try that?

[@kinoromantic]

Off topic - "Yeah buddy join the club" is the saying coined by Blackmagic URSA shooters (4,6K and 12K) which hasn't been updated in YEARS and is their highest end cinema camera they sell so not only DJI. Pro camera companies are very slow on updates as they have many products they sell and support and they often play "favourites"

[@MyPortfolioNR]

Anyone know if these problems have been fixed yet ?

[@HezJP]

This isn’t a cine camera. I think the key defining factor of a “cine cam” is reliability. Your camera is responsible for the pay of everyone in the room - without a video, their jobs (and the clients money) are for nothing. Not a reliable setup if a firmware update doesn’t get released to fix a mission critical issue

[@mwal853]

Same goes for RED then, those cameras are also known to be unreliable, besides being an overpriced ecosystem and terrible company.

[@sergiosanchez2012]

The issues he´s having is with autofocus, which is not reliable in any system outthere, not even Sony´s... If you manual focus, as in actual cinema sets, the camera is amazing and more versatile than any camera I´ve used. And I´ve used most of them for feature films, commercials and network TV series.

[@Newvision-ck9cr]

@@mwal853 reds discography says different

[@nicholaschan9521]

pretty sure you can mount the transmitter under the ronin camera mount or just buy raven eye idk.

[@JonezyTV1]

🎯🎯🎯

[@mediabear]

the gyro control with the monitor seems completely silly. how/why would anyone ever use such a "feature" ?

[@lakefraser]

3:27 Bro theres literally a cobweb on your gimbal lmao

[@mikedav178]

there are no return policies?

[@justin555666]

You’ve inspired me to continue building my camera rig myself. Most of the Ronin features can be accomplished by cobbling a bunch of stuff together from different manufacturers.

[@spdcrzy]

Question: is this only an issue on DJI lenses? Or an issue on all zooms? I wonder if DJI designed the LIDAR to only be used with primes originally, and then went OH FUCK when their lens division came out with the 17-28 power zoom.

[@906MediaProductions]

It doesn't do this with my Sony zoom, it's not a power zoom but it knows the focal length and it adjusts in real time.

[@spdcrzy]

@@906MediaProductions interesting. So it's not a sensor issue, it's definitely a lens issue specifically with that DJI lens?

[@CNC-Time-Lapse]

The 4D is not a good value as it honestly is quite niche for what it is especially for the price. It has it's pros but some pretty big cons. I only know one person who owns one (DJI sent it to them for review) and their daily driver is still their URSA Mini Pro G2 because of the limitations the DJI has. I personally have a URSA Mini Pro G1 and a Pocket Cinema 6K G2 for run-and-gun (with wireless video) and for myself, that covers it and the price is way less. A Sony A7SIII is a great camera! Just toss the Cosmo C1 or Mars 4K on your belt and run a cable to it. No need to mount it to your gimbal setup. I mount my C1 on the back of my G2 inline with some rails and a custom bracket I milled on my CNC machine. Works great and keeps the rig light and less cumbersome.

[@vishkumar3106]

Is this back focus issue fixed? i

[@marklholloway]

Regarding HDMI audio out on the High Bright remote, the firmware release notes for August 2022 say “Added HDMI output audio ability for the remote monitor expansion plate.” You tried it and could not get it to work?

[@DucDigital]

Are we gonna overlook those paid youtubers willing to ignore viewers in order to pocket some extra cash from DJI?

[@KeithJBrett]

Have you resolved all the issues?

[@null8759]

Sorry for your discovery post purchase, I'm sure that hurts, but watching you let DJI have a piece of your mind made me go, "OH HECK YEAH!" We need more tech reviewers like you folks.

[@Argosh]

DJI is just overall a company to avoid. They overpromise and underdeliver as a company creed...

[@RandallMeredith]

Thank you for bringing up these problems. I have decided not to purchase this product at this time.

[@ChrisParayno]

Just a heads up, just because it's labeled a cinema camera doesn't make it a broadcast camera as well

[@mikelay5360]

Software issues are 100% a deal breaker !. Such a shame for such beautiful hardware 😢 If sony and or canon copy that chicken neck its lights out for DJI

[@aodvisions]

I need help trying to figure out if I need to purchase pro res raw in order to use this or the other license keys such as cinema dng and cinema raw because it's so costly. I want to make sure I only get what I need to get. Any information helps. I plan on filming dance videos and weddings.

[@NVAfilm]

3:40 the only reason gimbal is an issue for balance is because you are using the wrong lens. Switch to a cinema lens. When they zoom there is no increase in size.

[@temporarywindow]

This whole video is wrong, what do they even need raw video for. And even just Sony 16-35 PZ F4 is perfect for gimbals, internal zoom and its parfocal.

[@GrimoireTattoo]

Any updates to your firmware issues?

[@TheLateral18]

All of that to film straight to brett during hot news? 😅 So 4k 60fps with HDR?

[@SimplestUsername]

I'm curious, you have a camera operator. As a host, why is there a need to view yourself on a monitor?

[@BattleThon]

Man I love my S1H I paid $6500 for the Panasonic LUMIX S1H & The LUMIX S Pro 24-70mm F2.8. I’d love this for the horizontal & vertical stabilization on the axis

[@JonezyTV1]

I have the rs2 gimbal with raveneye and a pocket 4k and even when using a vmount battery, it all balances fine. It makes zero sense that you would buy a Ronin 4d and spend thousands, and then not shoot raw.

[@nicholaschan9521]

Gotta need an excuse to buy the 4D 🤣

[@JonezyTV1]

@@nicholaschan9521 Yea, let's be honest, I'm jealous. Lol

[@steevo435]

Also, annoyingly at 23 minutes, you've discovered that it only shoots in 17:9 aspect ratio. Another short-sighted mistake on DJI's part.

[@disco.jellyfish]

After considering its price you still really get A LOT even if its the 8K version, which is rather cheap at just ~12000 bucks. Of course not something a consumer would buy but definitely highly interesting for professionals. Its also very impressive that you can operate this alone rather easily. Sure its unfortunate that the backpack takes forever to come out but in the end you could still build one yourself and therefore benifit from a lot of its features at a cheap price. Since you are not shooting some blah blah broadcast news low budget production stuff but more like commercials and movies, etc. on something like this, you can bring a camera assistant to operate the focus and even the gimbal orientation for you. The only downside that matters in my usecase is the rather slow rolling shutter, at least with the 8K version. The 6K version has quicker rolling shutter at the cost of dynamic range and resolution of course.

[@AdamWeatherall]

That camera produces an image that looks like garbage though… I’m assuming this is raw or something like that but why does the raw look so much worse than that on the 03 air system camera?

[@rolithesecond]

Get an easyrig and hook the fool cam to it. Not really worth spending so much and then not having the 4th axis.

[@LTULOfficial]

This camera was never what you needed

[@bmcleroth]

What were you doing in South Africa?

[@raishul]

I bought first product Ronin S gimbal and found they did not allow to switch to front camera of the phone so that I can use the phone also as a monitor(sort of) during active track. They marketed raveneye for rs2 for the function which could be fixed by 2 lines of programming code. I did not buy any brand new dji product as of today as a protest.

[@BillStreeter]

You can't mount the video TX to the handle of the Ronin instead of on top of the camera? That's what I do.

[@Offheap]

man,bless you and your son. i hope your family lives a better ,longer life

[@MrBaskins2010]

appreciate the investment your team is making to upgrade the overall quality of the content. never noticed any shake or instability, life is dizzying

[@speedbird737]

they just wanted an excuse to get the ronin - they had no need to

[@4777512]

is this an expose on DJI?

[@CoalitionGaming]

I wanna know more about this TV show pilot

[@ExarchGaming]

They may just not have experienced the bug, or were using equipment that the bug did not effect. Has new firmware fixed the issue for you yet??

[@Recapsulate]

I’ve had to learn the hardway about KZbin reviewers. A lot of good reviews on shitty mics and what’s the deal with people swearing by Elgato. I’ve bought a lot of Elgato stuff and the only piece of equipment I haven’t had problems with is the teleprompter. Stream Deck is trash.

[@FrazerBoorman]

Raven and DJI RS3 Pro Way cheaper, and gets everything you want. Tilta mounts for vehicle work

[@FrazerBoorman]

Internal zoom lenses for gimbal balancing

[@adamgrunseth]

For the kind of production you are doing, and the needs you described, I really think you would be best off with a proper shoulder mount ENG camera, like the Sony PXW-Z450 or Panasonic AJ-CX4000.

[@markjob6354]

*Just listening to what is coming out of your mouth and watching how you are handling your equipment speaks volumes to me about your working knowledge level ! I got as far as **6:41** and it's just too cringe-worthy an experience for yours truly the viewer. You Sir, are a rank amateur with more money than knowledge about the subjects you are speaking about, and goodbye.*

[@MosesBamgbose]

He is so annoying.

[@zivzulander]

[chicken neck achievement unlocked 🐔]

[@TheConstructiveCritic888]

There’s something about the footage coming from this DJI Ronin camera that I strongly dislike. It’s the movement and the general image I keep seeing… bothers me…

[@foljs5858]

So, you filmed handheld with a simple camera, and instead of trying a gimbal you thought to go all in to a new, version 1.0, entirely different system, meant for different uses (like advertising and documentary and shooting outside) and not product unboxing videos?

[@jefegreenheart2705]

this could have been an 8 minute video.

[@megatryn]

3:31 Love that the gimbal has actual spider webs 😂🤣

[@mesut4466]

we put our swit video transmitter in to bottom of the camera where raven eye goes into. it works pretty well and no cable problems.

[@ephemere82]

why buying a 4d and then using as simple camera on a gimbal attached to a cord. the interesting part is the 4th axis stabilization imho

[@detroitsocialclubuk]

So you watched loads of videos before purchasing, but didnt go on any user forums for real feedback until after your purchase?

[@iammz81]

You use the wrong gimbal. A Weebill 2 would have served that setup easily.

[@ivofernandes88]

In Europe would be easy to return it. Thats why in Europe we have drastic rules for corporates to give warranty and full support.

[@sloop24]

I think you should look into a ninja v and atomos connect module. You can get a lot of similar things such as cheaper ssds, remote monitoring, live streaming, a lot cheaper than that.

[@BoomMC_Inc]

Was there a spider web in your gimble? I would use it if it needs a new home.

[@bargh70]

Sony FX3: I refuse to NOT have perfect focus All the other: Focusing is your job stfu

[@avdpost]

I wonder if it's that whole thing about creators having access to pre release firmware or not final firmware, and if they do discover an issue, because it's not a full review, or they claim they will fix the issue soon, they aren't allowed to comment on this issue? Hard to say.

[@Loanshark753]

Some just say prerealease issues might be fixed in final version and others ignore flaws.

[@MarkHuynh7]

Dji KZbinrs are paid well if something like this was hidden

[@justonlyjohn6596]

Hmm, never hit the 4K _as why bother_ , but well... narrow DOF is more noticable AND WTF is falling from the ceiling? Wads of cottonballs? Switching back to 1080p and will just listen more than SEE. _bro, set is a mess!!!_ Hey... not going anywhere, just say'n edit: shot your load at @10:50 and gotta say... impressive stabilization, not like I know anything but it was kind of spooky to see how well that expensive kit works - not a videographer and even my dumbA is impressed edit: system updates/issues/formats... umm, just wondering how much does it cost? easy to find out $6,200 - $6,800 - OH, those are YOUR issues, never will be mine - bugging out as it's not made for me, and that's OK. For others who are _(for lack of a better word)_ Creators, I'm sure this is priceless info. Be back soon for more consumer tech news. _(sup w/depricating Hot News - didn't even notice the change - my bad)_

[@06racing]

Apparently he didn't hear that they have already kinda discontinued it.

[@amosjovt]

Noo :o

[@906MediaProductions]

It's not discontinued, they've been slowly releasing more accessories and updating it this whole time. Look at the Inspire line, that's likely going to be the release timeline for these too.

[@sandybrown7730]

I'm sorry, I don't know who you guys are or why YT recommended this to me, but I quit after 1:30 because video was annoying. You guys make too many amature video mistakes (maybe intentionally?) which make video unwatchable to me.

[@SooksVI]

I would return that. That's a lot of money to spend on "coming soon" features and bugs... considering it's already been over a year and none of them have been addressed.

[@sambrandner]

I feel like you could just film with a tripod and zoom combo to make this way easier

[@tarikkodokuna6570]

thx à lot I wanted to move from my Canon C70 to the Ronin 4D. finally when I see the seriousness of canon on my camera with more and more brilliant updates, we will wait later

[@uralrider88]

If you want something that just works go for broadcast, JVC do a very nice kit the GY-HC900 at the low end and the Sony pxw z750 4k at the top end

[@gagz9k]

You build your character with full charisma, didn't? Man, I love your videos.

[@MichaelJohnsonProductions]

Thank you for calling out the KZbinrs. I hate that they do that

[@gatosoul]

Hi, It feels like an abandoned platform, every extra part we buy for the Ronin 4D is overpriced and half-working working, the sensor is pretty much the same sensor as the Lumix S line or Sony FX6 or FX9, of course, every company debayer and color science in a different way the raw footage from the sensor. Thank you for Sharing!

[@lucariccidj]

thank you , you saved me spending $$$$$!Hope you solve ur problems with this system

[@JoJo-og3zg]

Only this isnt a cinema camera. At all. Good luck doing your stuff guys.

[@infoxic]

DJI is working on this firmware fix.

[@scottjohnson3017]

Actual link for this information or is this just "Trust me, bro" ?

[@906MediaProductions]

​@@scottjohnson3017I have the updated firmware on mine, at least on my Sony lenses the backfocus is gone.

[@jodajackson4489]

You,…you’re,….trying to replace Kyler,……? With a gimble??? OMG where’s Resse???

[@LookitsTook]

I don't know man, theres a long list of cameras that i think would be a better ROI.

[@thekylenovak]

Thats hardly a cinema camera

[@thekylenovak]

Not to say its a terrible camera, but as someone who works on big shows and movies, I would not call this a cinema camera. It has its place though.

[@uralrider88]

Three sensor cameras have far better colour reproduction and the b4 lenses are par focus and a vast zoom range in comparison

[@uralrider88]

The JVC has built in streaming booth ways , so you can take a feed from a studio, sound quality is as good you'll as you can get, on most you can plug in a receiver pack, have four channels of audio with low cut and limiters . They are expensive but they will work and will keep on working.

people don enjoy hand shake camera in youtube, but they really like in tv/streaming series and movies, so dumb situation.

[@nyambe]

You can use gyro flow for the a7siii

[@mylesmarciniak1623]

As I agree with a lot of your concerns as I own this camera myself. The film industry would not be in most cases be streaming audio out of that monitor as its intention is to be a directors monitor / 1 AC monitor for pulling focus. What I do have an issue with is they are the Apple of cameras with all of the addons you need. including no SDI out on the main body of the camera or TC sync. One thing you do need to keep in mind this is a cinema camera first, not a streaming camera.

[@Mr_Moka]

Given how much this system costs, I can't understand why this would be your filming solution. It makes absolutely no sense.

[@balla2172]

Clearly Robin was not made for static

[@scottievee330]

Honest. Bravo.