I Just Realized This When I Returned to Yharnam

[@PierceArner]

I was surprised that the headless statue leaning over Laurence the First Vicar has an identical design to Marika on the "Erdtree's Favor" talisman. That along with the gold in the full Formless Oedon Caryll Rune being identical to Marika's Rune really makes it feel like some of Elden Ring's mythos lingered as an early part of the religion of the Healing Church in Yharnam.

[@empyrean5183]

....riiiight Odeons, the formless. That rune structure is marikas. Totally doesn't remind me of another formless being from elden ring.

[@PierceArner]

@empyrean5183 The *_Shadow of the Erdtree_* cinematic with Marika at the Divine Gateway that states that the beginning was, _“The seduction & the betrayal. An affair from which Gold arose, and so too was Shadow born.”_ reinforces that idea pretty heavily. That having its thematic roots in *_Bloodborne_* where outer gods are attempting to produce surrogate offspring is pretty clear, especially as their language when transcribed into the dark marks of the Caryll Runes reveal unique Gold Runes within them that appear within only the strongest form. The three upward cuts of the trident associated with the link to the Formless Mother are like the three bleeding crimson vertical slashes that are a part of the Formless Oedon Caryll Rune, with the gold of Marika's Rune being within it. Mohg being entirely themed around Blood whilst his twin brother is seated on the Golden throne in Marika's absence follows that pretty directly. It really shows how a lot of those ideas were already in mind during the later stages of making the *_Bloodborne_* DLC, even as the way that those themes were adapted into *_Elden Ring_* and its underlying story & mythology changed… a LOT throughout the game's development. (There are more clear links in the 1.0 version and other cut content that show how those ideas shifted a lot over time but still keep a lot of the visual designs by the time of the release version).

[@themfatale]

The healing church was only in yharnam for like 20 years

[@javi6719]

Fromsoftware haters: they are so lazy, they are always reusing assets >:( Fromsoftware enjoyers: that statue is now an enemy? Hell yeah

[@jemandjemand2362]

haters? while speaking the truth and exposing lazy gamedesign and recycling? get a life

[@hare75]

​@@jemandjemand2362you can call rockstar and naughty dog lazy dev too since they reusing the game design, yeah talk about double standard huh

[@mistahshade]

@@jemandjemand2362 there's nothing wrong with reusing assets, FromSoft, Marvelous Chester in Dark Souls 1 is obviously from Yharnam

[@metalmonster9536]

More like, Hell yeah! Oh look that's the same dude we saw in earlier games hehe lazy hehe Anyways, hell yeah! If you love something, you gotta have to accept their weaknesses too. You don't blindfoldly make excuses about every criticism they get. Or are you saying all those memes about repeated poison swamps are hate messages? (And if you want to say that every poison swamps use different assets, I'm talking about ideas too. They clearly use same concepts over and over again - which I enjoy playing btw)

[@hare75]

@@metalmonster9536 that's not how critisism works, i don't think reusing assets are issue in video games

[@MitridatedCarbon]

i know the 2 games aren't connected, but one reason i like elden ring, both in lore and setting, is because is exactly how i imagined pthumeru, Isz, or the ancient world of bloodborne looked like before falling into ruin.

[@benhramiak8781]

Which bit? The gods affecting the world more overtly?

[@PierceArner]

The way that they share a lot of thematic design DNA really makes it seem like the story of The Lands Between could have existed as a legend or even just remnants of a religious practice from another country from hundreds of years ago that was still a lingering influence on early Yharnam before everything went insane with the Healing Church.

[@thebigenchilada678]

@@PierceArnerthe influence of runes, outer gods, lovecraftian themes, and the moon are present in both games.

[@PierceArner]

@@thebigenchilada678 That's also because they're very Japanese themes that have a smooth way to adapt uniquely into a Western Fantasy framework, as in Shinto, ofuda talismans are imbued with the power of the Shinto gods through writing & Tsukuyomi is the creator moon Goddess. Even the original Moonlight Sword in *_King's Field_* has runes that become visible on the only physical part of the blade as the rest turns into ethereal moonlight when it's transformed from the stone Dragon Blade. Suffice to say, those are at the deepest core of the pre-Souls mythology that Fromsoftware develops. The Lovecraftian elements are also heavily ubiquitous because both *_Conan the Barbarian_* & *_Call of Cthulhu_* each had notable impacts early in Japan and are why a lot of its settings hold onto more of the "Swords & Sorcery" dark fantasy elements from that, while Western stories focused more around the "High Fantasy" elements of Arthurian & Tolkien fantasy.

[@MitridatedCarbon]

@@PierceArner yes exactly that. like how caryll runes and great runes basically work similarly and technically are the same thing (transcriptions of words from gods), and the presence of elements of astronomy and cosmic horror, or how the landscape of the lands between has that same dreamlike atmosphere of the nightmares. also the comparison with conan the barbarian is perfect cause I see elden ring as fromsoft doing a pulp-fantasy/Robert E. Howard/michael moorcock inspired game the same way bloodborne was inspired by lovecraft and bram stoker, cause the game has so many nods to conan, both the movie and books, as well as the eternal champion saga that is a shame people don't talk that much about it.

[@VoyagersRevenge]

I just started playing this again. A masterpiece

[@ScyrousFX]

A masterpiece forever stuck at 1080p30 unless Sony/FromSoftware decides otherwise.

[@rodgersb1248]

@@ScyrousFXpc moders say otherwise

[@eliasfigarzon9813]

The best game of the souls genre. Bloodborne is a before and after in moder art and gaming

[@BljesakiOluja]

Tell me about it, I bought an OLED TV, played Bloodborne for the first time in all its old graphical glory, then at the end realised the TV has upscaling (SuperResolution), tried it, game looked as if you turned up AA to 11 plus some other stuff, had to do a second playthrough hahaha

[@Shezmen88]

Frooooooooooooooooom!!!!!

[@theoldone689]

From: 👀

[@CUSTOM_V9]

What is the Real shezman doing here? DO A BLOODBORNE PARODY GODDAMN!!!.. pls?😢

[@nicolisotio2039]

You did hate reused assets, right

[@HitmanZeroX0087]

We will never escape this curse, lol.

[@WretchedRedoran]

​@@CUSTOM_V9 He's still busy with part two of the Eldering animations

[@marc.vonwyl]

It's possible they wanted to add the wormfaces in Bloodborn, but didn't have time. So they used the model as decoration, before finishing the job in Elden Ring.

[@lisprn-tt1tu]

If I remember correctly, there is a statue in DS3 that resembles cleric beast.

[@nunaalsoknownasohare6388]

I know the games aren't connected at all but I like to imagine the different endings of elden ring lead to the different from games we've had over the years, the amount of tiny things scattered throughout elden ring that seem to reference their past works makes it fun and easy to theorize

[@JustInCase_007]

Yoooo. You just filled my mind with eyes

[@ephoruskaisergunnershadow9020]

Even the snake-men in DS3…

[@SunWarriorSolaire]

Which originated from ds1

[@ilikevideogames4331]

​@@SunWarriorSolaire ...Which originated from King's Field.

[@SunWarriorSolaire]

@@ilikevideogames4331 which was inspired by earth..

[@Actual_real_ValStrax]

​@@SunWarriorSolairewhich was inspired by rocks

[@jean-eric52]

Maybe the statue came a from an enemy that got cut and eventually got used in Elden Ring? Wouldn’t be the first time that has happened.

[@master.chief.117.0]

Maybe this is becoming more relevant than ever before. Yesterday, the trailer for Elden Ring: Nightreign was released. Could the worlds actually be connected somehow? That would be a real mind-blown moment!

[@saymyname2310]

Funfact: there is a deleted files from elden ring about these enemies says "Plip, plop, plip, plop... Splish, splash, splish, splash"

[@aeric_]

I always thought the statues in Yahar'gul and UCW were just petrified creatures. They look too real to be just carved out of stone. Especially the ones with the horn coming out of their hood- always reminded me of Loran Clerics.

[@ah_helou2845]

They very well could be…. But i would say the ‘statues’ of all the people you see on the way to One Reborn are the only ones that are for sure petrified humans.

[@vincentvalentine4401]

I hate those worm dudes so much. They disgust me. When i hear one laugh it pisses me off

[@JosueRoldan-ip6oi]

I never heard them as laughing. I think it's more coughing than anything.

[@SirBrandan]

Man's has hatred

[@LtCdrXander]

It sounds like laughing to me too, but I think it's supposed to be coughing. Idc what the sounds are, they always creep me out since you hear the Wormfaces well before you see them. Unless I need golden seed or smithing bell bearing I stay well clear of that foggy forest in Altus

[@walter1383]

I interpreted it as them weeping and crying which scared me more than anything else.

[@StallionFernando]

​@@LtCdrXander not as creepy as the winter lanterns singing in BB once you get about 40 insight

[@SinHurr]

[@OneNationUnderPug]

They also remind me of the pilgrims from Dark Souls 3.

[@gilorillos]

in my head canon everything is connected...

[@CrowSkeleton]

Warm fuzzy feels to know that no matter where one is in the cosmos or which world you inhabit, the same terrible many-eyed tentacled Things are waiting just outside the universe.

[@anthemlog]

I keep telling people that those dudes in Elden RIng are single fingers, but no one ever listens to me.

[@Arkaeus04]

Now i can’t stop thinking that those statues might come to life and kill me when walking through Yharnam

[@philosophyofiron9686]

Never noticed this either, but damn, I think that now clocks at the 4,000,000th Bloodborne reference in Elden Ring haha

[@lordoflordran8884]

I mean, fair enough. That's really smart asset reuse imo.

[@Sinhsseax]

What the hell. I don't know how I didn't notice. But when you walked up to it, I already got that uncanny feeling of recognition. And it's weird because I don't remember these statues, as if Fromsoft just secretly added them in a patch. I wonder now, if the statues and the wormfaces are trying to communicate similar concepts. Trees, worms, cycle of life and death, melded together bodies? I don't understand. :|

[@Sam-bz5zf]

Excellent find!

[@theredknight9314]

Now imagine how their next game will be with all the stuff they used for Elden ring being in the catalog now

[@julianfern624]

Makes sense considering the Wormfaces have literally no explanation for their existence in Elden Ring, as far as I know.

[@TheKlink]

they love reusing assets, and long may it continue.

[@chris_vp]

true and funny

[@xmorose]

ye cuz why wouldnt they

[@anonymousnate678]

All games have reused assets and will continue to do it more and more the more complicated games get to make. Expecting a company to design entirely new assets and still release a game every few years is just unrealistic.

[@Karatarari]

Calling this a reused asset is funny as hell, its a static statue compared to a fully functioning NPC with animations. They probably thought it looked cool at had a concept image around and just made it vaguely like it.

[@cyclonesama8147]

It's like the Cornetto Trilogy having some connection with each other

[@kevgmei]

Those statues also look like the hooded dudes in Old Yharnam and DS3's man-serpents

[@zokisan9554]

womb-man being used as His cannon fodder is most definitely an assruse - i mean rose, that's a name i haven't heard in along tyne - asset reuse

[@spacenaves]

Right. Let's begin by "womb-man".

[@zokisan9554]

@@spacenaves or you start at why does the tarnished blood have no hemoglobin in it; what is your theory for why tarnished bleed black oily goop when wounded ?

[@PabloEskimofo]

I’m playing bloodborne for the first time and just reached that part yesterday! First thing I said when I saw these statues was they look like the worm faces from Elden Ring. God, this game is a masterpiece in its own right

[@funkygandalfcat4259]

Miyazaki: "Noooo, the games are not connected at all" Yeah sure, says the man who have created the most complex worlds with hidden lore all over the place, which btw also enjoys to live big aspects of the stories without explanation, so you can fill the blanks with whatever you find more fitting. Obviously he would not just handle to us such big revelation in plate.

[@j-lohome-slice7425]

Wow that was really fucked up.

[@taylor99-w3o]

I'm gobsmacked...

[@Tasuke]

It is cool when they bring back older or unused ideas in their games

[@haydenh3217]

I have also found the statues of people around the ancient cities of night, nokron and nokstella, are almost the same as the ones in yahar’gul

[@thetruemonarch9354]

That sort of makes me wonder if that statue wasn't a cut enemy they simply turned into a static object. There are plenty of cut enemies skulking around glitchy chalice dungeons, and this game has yet to be fully explored.

[@procow2274]

Wait till he learns you can find the same symbol you see in bloodbourne all the way back in ac2

[@sasugakirin]

My dumb ass: "Ah, Animal Crossing 2, of course"

[@Tib-45-BT]

All this time, I thought I was crazy, until this video appeared

[@ScumMageInfa]

The Pilgrims from DS3, too!

[@4ndrew4guirre]

Nice. My PS4 background happened to be a screenshot taken in the same place in the thumbnail. Just with the night moon phase.

[@meteorseven3]

The Cursed Death Status Ailment in Dark Souls 3 Has the Same Animation as Getting Your Heart Stolen by Miquella.

[@el_mer01]

Michael Zaki reused an asset and thought we wouldn't notice (we in fact did not notice)

[@blackcatsmusicroom2553]

the implecations of that are terrifying is death blight the pale blood plague

[@Diverdjent]

Brootal as always brotha! 🙌✨🌞🔔

[@lastsigil7241]

Oh wow. Thats a good catch.

[@nunoosorio3832]

Those who were uprooted.

[@vincentthemasterofshadows5743]

Something I learned recently is that celestial larvae enemies become in lesser amygdalas.

[@hugofontes5708]

Hang on, larvae? The ones that appear in Cainhurst and the nightmare? How?

[@vincentthemasterofshadows5743]

@hugofontes5708 The ones in Upper cathedral ward also referred as celestial children. There are several statues in Yahar'gul that show how their bodies evolve into lesser amygdalas.

[@aliyeager6533]

It looks like these two worlds are connected ! Thank you for remembring us how greatly connected fromsoftware games are

[@노현서-p9j]

I want to see the nepheli closer look!

[@oppressorb7196]

I'm busy with my hunt for Platinum in RDR2 and Jedi Survivor. But I'll be so returning to Bloodborne afterwards. It aged like fine wine

[@arcadius2569]

Shouldn't surprise us with one of those damned worm men like that D: Also Yahargul really loves putting people together.

[@Pyre]

Fromsoft never met an asset they couldn't reuse.The Bell Gargoyles are a less impressive version of the Maneater boss fight. The One Reborn is The Tower Knight. And almost every poison swamp has been a pale, pale imitation of the Valley of Defilement. And yet every one of these still settled FIRMLY in people's minds. So of course Elden Ring kept up that trend. Because whatever you may think of the Wormfaces, you absolutely remember them. How good do you have to be, to keep that up that successfully for so long? I don't know that we HAVE comparisons.

[@Ehh97]

WOOOORM!!

[@goodvdark7949]

and then fade cut to Yole of Londor.

[@eglewether5523]

It also looks like those DS3 vomit statues

[@jenovahcremator2133]

Thanks for nightmare fuel

[@Enoch1212-m7g]

Wait..are we all going back to BB again? I jusy started my 5th ER playthrough...

[@sebk3640]

spooky

[@sebk3640]

Maybe they were meant for bloodborne but not added and reused for eldern ring

[@KishorTwist]

Just wanna reiterate that Bloodborne’s easy mode is the _axe’s spin-to-win spam!_ Accessible right from the start! 😏

[@Memnoch_the_Devil]

Miyazaki says these games are not related. And honestly, if I were him, I’d say the same thing, because otherwise players would be looking too much outside of Elden Ring for answers to the lore. But I’ve always called BS. At least in my own headcanon, I see there being indirect relationships between the world of these games. Like The Lands Between in my mind could very well be the new world created by the painter in Ariendel from DS3. And the Land of Reeds mentioned in multiple places in ER could just as easily be referring to Ashina from Sekiro. Especially considering Ashina translates to “land of reeds” in Japanese, iirc Not to mention Ranni’s ending seems to be directly connected to Bloodborne, and the Flame of Frenzy ending could also be connected to rekindling the flame in the ending of DS1. Idk, it’s just hard to dismiss these worlds as being completely unrelated. Like I said at least in my personal head canon lol

[@theg4062]

Kinda unrelated but is there anyway to play bloodborne on pc?

[@Merc7734]

I know they were working on an emulator. You should check that. Otherwise, a ps4 or ps5

[@wvykaine6157]

These are the glory days, folks... enjoy it while the Sony aint got it. 😢

[@adlantian6334]

You do realize Bloodborne is a Sony exclusive and they own the rights to the IP, right?😂 Everyone needs to chill out about the Sony sale. KZbinrs who need fear mongering, clickbait titles to make money have gotten everyone worked up over this.

[@wvykaine6157]

@adlantian6334 exactly, and as an xbox player, I ain't had the courtesy of being able to play bloodborne.. if all fromsoft games are owned by Sony, they'll get made exclusives.

[@815TypeSirius]

Bloodborne is the best Arknights spin off game.

[@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike]

After seeing the parallels with A Call Beyond and an unlockable attack from Silent Hill 3, a recent head cannon I've had is that most of Fromsoft's worlds/games are variations of Silent Hill. 😊

[@815TypeSirius]

@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike I think good art reminds you of other good art.

[@TheHi-NoteFunClub-BeatsByMike]

@@815TypeSirius Agreed - not always - but it sure can.

[@bubeisme]

whats the deal with those wagons? there are some in Elden Ring as well.

[@enhasa5653]

Mah gawd...

[@ainsleykilarz7354]

Bloodborne 2🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@Ghostavelfantasma]

Bloodborne getting popular again uh, nice

[@FlagrareUnbound]

oooh shiiiiiii I just got it.

[@KosOrSomeSayKosmo]

Whoa!

[@raffaelep802]

So cool

[@JeronymKucera]

What the hell ?!

[@DaAggeAgneta]

Hell yeah to reused assets!!!!

[@rodrigovicente1725]

😯😯😯🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘👏👏🖤🖤

[@FilthyTea]

Ah yes, one of the most creative names Fromsoft gave an enemy, Wormface. Second only to Ancient Dragon Man, of course.

[@SunWarriorSolaire]

Its just as prestigious as the “Dung Eater”, truly spine-chilling

[@adlantian6334]

Every single time I fight Ancient Dragon man I think of Trogdor from Home star runner. If you are not familiar with Trogdor, watch it and you'll never be able to un-see it. 😂

[@Synaw97]

I think someone failed the audition for bloodborne…

[@wealthybone2990]

Wow I never thought that either but I wonder what's the connection with that? Not the games of course.

[@metalmonster9536]

"Hey we need some disgusting enemies for Elden Ring. Any ideas?" "Yo remember that strange statue we made for Bloodborne?" "Cool let's reuse it. Players will bring up 'theories' to make it seem legit." Probably like this

[@darkoale3299]

@@metalmonster9536 Nail meet head.

[@PierceArner]

I figure it's mostly that designers & developers often come up with neat ideas about existing assets that they just don't have time to include. So, they make a point to revisit & explore that idea further in whatever their current project is afterwards. This being a statue with a really strikingly memorable & uncomfortable silhouette likely made them want to revisit it as a living enemy - which would mean remaking the whole thing, designing a lot more of what's actually underneath, animations, attacks, etc. which had them come up with a version of it that fit into the Lands Between rather than Yharnam.

[@SunWarriorSolaire]

“Yo Miyazaki… We already got enough veiled enemies in Elden Ring.. Why don’t we just take that veiled statue from Bloodborne!?”

[@Jean_.]

I wish i could play bloodborne again but im college 😭

[@amoranimation1416]

Welcome back to yharnam

[@TemKalam]

damn

[@justinriley4063]

Another connection

[@IroquoisGaming]

Waiting for vaati to drop a 3 hour video on why this isn't just a reused asset.

[@skwelker5499]

Yeah Fromsoft reused a bunch of assets in Elden Ring including animations for bosses, I thought that was obvious

[@christophedelestay9848]

60fps?

[@szamhazaj]

from software is the master in reusing assets

[@Manar_798]

واو

[@seiji_senpai]

now port it to pc

[@Demokaze]

Basically there isn't an explanation for what they are because they're a scratched enemy from Bloodborne repurposed for Elden Ring

[@danielhoward9729]

Wow bro. If THAT blew your mind, you should look at the Erdtree Avatar and the Asylum demon in DS1. It's almost as if Fromsoft reuse assets or something. Craaaaaaazy.

[@kelwilli827]

I know they're not actually connected, but I don't care. All fromsoft games are a part of the same timeline in my head canon.

[@MasoTrumoi]

Fromsoft is the most eco-friendly game developer cuz of all the recycling

[@Uro_Boros]

lol

[@loganwernicke7604]

No that's too close they are connected

[@SunWarriorSolaire]

What too close, it’s a reused asset

[@satsubatsu347]

Step 1: Ctrl+C Step 2: Ctrl+V Step3: There is no step 3

[@solaireofcatarina44]

fromsoft asset reuse at it again

[@captain_penguin3998]

First

[@frankhoorigan]

Second

[@angryeric2961]

.......damn dude.