I Killed a Moose in Self Defense

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Guns Gear & Outdoors Alaska

Guns Gear & Outdoors Alaska

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@akforlife2423
@akforlife2423 Жыл бұрын
10x more likely to get killed by a moose than a bear in AK. Good on you for doing it right.
@robertebenreck1652
@robertebenreck1652 2 жыл бұрын
I am amazed at the negative comments you received. Thanks for sharing this video and that you or your dog weren't injured. On the Internet, no matter what the circumstances, some people will always find fault with you.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it. Some people just don't understand, most have been very kind though.
@desertdwellers7294
@desertdwellers7294 2 жыл бұрын
Good example of how quick situations can go from bad to worst in seconds. A friend once asked me why I carry a sidearm, I told her because I understand that bad things can happen to good people and they never get to decide when it happens.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Great point, this situation happened really fast!
@jasonrodefeld8758
@jasonrodefeld8758 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok Alan.
@kellyurban8229
@kellyurban8229 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy you were ready.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Me too, as ready as one can be for something like that.
@jasonrodefeld8758
@jasonrodefeld8758 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok Alan
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jason, we are really thankful nobody got hurt.
@stevenbrown1749
@stevenbrown1749 2 жыл бұрын
Glad your okay Alan, it’s clear that your visibly upset by what happened. Taking life is never a easy matter. One can learn more by listening than you can by speaking. I understand the irony of this statement by me speaking it. This video will be a great training aid. God Bless Alan and everyone
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It was a really unpleasant situation, I am very thankful we are both ok. Take care and God Bless!
@litsci4690
@litsci4690 2 жыл бұрын
You're alive!
@billsummy2412
@billsummy2412 2 жыл бұрын
Moose are not a animal to mess with , They are nuts ... Glad you are safe pard , Take care and stay warm ..
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Bill. Take care.
@BranNew1
@BranNew1 Жыл бұрын
Nice Stormy Kromer 👍
@Ben-ry1py
@Ben-ry1py 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you and your dog are safe, and that the meat is getting used to feed people in the lean months. Good work protecting yourself and your dog.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Ben. We were really fortunate. Take care.
@ILOVEBROCK23
@ILOVEBROCK23 2 жыл бұрын
Love your channel Alan. Keep up the good content. This event shows how being prepared paid off. Always look forward to your new stuff.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, you are right about that, it happens fast!
@jorgequinones991
@jorgequinones991 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad you are ok.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate it Jorge!
@lonewolfwildernesssurvival9443
@lonewolfwildernesssurvival9443 2 жыл бұрын
So glad you guys are ok Alan
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I appreciate it.
@eyesnearstactical
@eyesnearstactical 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are safe that could of been real bad. I always say, “Guns R 4 Safety not 4 Killing!” Here is a perfect example of how a gun can save your life. Good job! Glad the meat will feed those in need.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it. Great point!
@throwaway633
@throwaway633 2 жыл бұрын
Glad y’all are safe
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@musicalcompanion5890
@musicalcompanion5890 2 жыл бұрын
can i ask if you would have had to do it again , would you feel more ready with a 10mm, 454. casull or kept your shot gun? Becasue 4 yards seems pretty close danger from a charging animal. glad ur ok tho.
@Ben-ry1py
@Ben-ry1py 2 жыл бұрын
I'd take a shotgun over any handgun any day outside. Much more power and easier to aim with adrenaline pumping...IMO
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I'm with Ben. I am really glad I had a shotgun ready.
@Shot_Gunner
@Shot_Gunner 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are safe, what an ordeal .. man that’s a close call. Thanks for posting this video, it’s eye opening how easy it is, one second everything is fine and the next we are literally in a fight for our lives. Stay safe. God bless.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it! You are right about that, it happens really fast and is over really fast. Take care.
@markpeever496
@markpeever496 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're OK.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark!
@upnorthvlogs
@upnorthvlogs 2 жыл бұрын
This is why I carry i pistol 40 cal I live in Minnesota there not as big but when blueberrie picking the bears and cougar like to bother me my dog our kids luckily I haven’t had to take action yet great vid stay safe we have moose wolf don’t see them very often
@joebass517
@joebass517 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunate events, moose can be very dangerous. I had one in my front yard a few days ago during the night on cameras, be safe out there.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! We were very fortunate. Take care and stay safe.
@davidchrist428
@davidchrist428 2 жыл бұрын
Sad to see any life extinguished...glad you are okay.....
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I appreciate it.
@michaelfay794
@michaelfay794 2 жыл бұрын
In your state are your required to give the meet away after a self defense shooting? Or can you keep any yourself?
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
The meat goes to charity, or in this case the roadkill list.
@johnnyh-pay5843
@johnnyh-pay5843 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry that you had to DLP her... Cows with calves can be very nasty; they’re very reactive to dogs and people getting too close. I worry more about them than bears to be honest. Glad that you’re safe and that someone on a roadkill list is getting the meat!
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, It was not a fun afternoon, just thankful we are ok. I am more worried about moose now than bears for sure. Take care and stay safe.
@hawkeye7834
@hawkeye7834 2 жыл бұрын
Glad u guys are ok and it's that time of the year it seems like
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It sure is.
@martinchivers7341
@martinchivers7341 2 жыл бұрын
Stay safe man!
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, you too.
@keelyoconnell3911
@keelyoconnell3911 2 жыл бұрын
Alan, I just want very much to give you a giant hug and squeeze Crozier until he squeaks. I miss you both and I'm so so so grateful that you're okay.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, we are thankful to be ok.
@rickurban9681
@rickurban9681 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy you and Crozier are ok. This is exactly what all the practice and preparation is about. I’m glad you stayed calm and ended the threat in a serious and direct way. Anyway of knowing if this is the same cow and calf that got the lady a couple weeks ago? Take care and stay alert.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I'm guessing not, there has been so many this winter. There are a few cow and calf pairs that live in my neighborhood. I am sure it was just one of them.
@billboyd6894
@billboyd6894 2 жыл бұрын
Alan glad you and the pup are ok … I won’t even start to comment on steve H his lack of knowledge of Alaska speaks for itself
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Bill!
@TheJonesn
@TheJonesn 5 ай бұрын
I walked up on a cow and calf. Surprised both of us. I thought I was gonna get it but she chose not to charge. I was lucky
@AlaskanBallistics
@AlaskanBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Sad day... but I'm glad you're okay.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, it was unpleasant for sure.
@lukearcher886
@lukearcher886 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry that happened man....
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@BlackKnight_755
@BlackKnight_755 Жыл бұрын
Proud that you are ok. Could you not keep part of the meat? I know that there are lists that people get their names added to for like road kill moose, are these also considered for people on the same list? It just seems like you would be able to keep part of it.
@dbx1233
@dbx1233 Жыл бұрын
Moose are very capable of killing a person. It's not like it hasn't ever happened. Glad you are ok.
@herbertblevins7077
@herbertblevins7077 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you and your dog are safe. Can tell your upset about having to kill the moose. Take care !
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. It was an unpleasant situation and I am thankful it turned out in our favor.
@gorillahd9247
@gorillahd9247 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok! Good to see the meat being put to good use. What do you think about the performance of the slugs in stopping the charge? Were you running Brennekes?
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. This was done with the Brenneke 1oz KO slugs. They did the trick but I did fire 5 of them. I think they preformed adequately, it may not have taken all 5 but I didn't stop shooting until she was down. The animal was in a very agitated state witch seems to let them absorb a lot of lead.
@gorillahd9247
@gorillahd9247 2 жыл бұрын
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 Nicely done sir!
@foxtrotyankee6028
@foxtrotyankee6028 Жыл бұрын
Im quite interested if u had any ear damage after
@BOTthelesser
@BOTthelesser 10 ай бұрын
Not likely permanent from just a few shots but a few days of ringing ears
@oneeyeddoc2690
@oneeyeddoc2690 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you ok sir. I know you didn't want to do it but you have to protect your own...and you.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks I appreciate it.
@67REBELSSTAMC
@67REBELSSTAMC 2 жыл бұрын
Being a new resident to Alaska people are always telling me how dangerous they can be and after seeing this and hearing the news on others I believe it. Glad to see ur safe.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I didn't think it would happen to me but it did. Welcome to the state, stay safe out there.
@justinmoore4088
@justinmoore4088 10 ай бұрын
Glad you were on top of the situation and made it out safe.
@ZakEmerald
@ZakEmerald 9 ай бұрын
I have had a bull moose come face to face with me recently while just going outside in ak to smoke, and rn tonight I did the same thing had a gut feeling and knew to go inside, then I looked out the window and if I was even a minute later that moose (female) would've been at my face and I am not sure if I would've made it back inside
@ZakEmerald
@ZakEmerald 9 ай бұрын
RN I have been doing tiny sessions right next to the door (I mean reaching distance) so no matter what since I can't have a gun (self life take tendency)
@shaynes_world9029
@shaynes_world9029 2 жыл бұрын
What part of Alaska do you live in?
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Fairbanks
@AldoSchmedack
@AldoSchmedack 11 ай бұрын
Les Stroud (Survivorman) always said, and Mors Kochanski too, that moose in rutting season are just straight up nuts compared to any type of bear. I have read outdoor books since I was a kid. Everyone says it. Not your or your dog's fault. Have a question or two. Are they easier or harder to drop then a bear? Also, is the meat like elk or deer? I've not had moose yet. How far did the slug travel through it? Can the natives at least get the meat? Any which way, you don't waste meat I know in AK. Wolves and bear need meat too. Everyone has to eat! Even small animals and Eagles will consume it in a few days to a week! Lastly, does the officer have to put the young one down or are you allowed to with his okay? Just glad YOU are safe. Animals aren't as important as humans are. YOU count far more than a darn moose. New here and loving your videos! Hope you are doing okay! Happy seasons and new year from Iowa!
@WildLastFrontier
@WildLastFrontier 2 жыл бұрын
This happened to me two days ago! I'm making a video about mine too. The poor moose are going nuts this year with the wild weather and deep snow.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you are ok. It has been a crazy winter for them.
@paulscountry456
@paulscountry456 2 жыл бұрын
I have clocked those cow moose running over 40 mph on logging roads,they will protect their young and those hooves will rip a person up fast.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Scary stuff.
@rodwilliams1075
@rodwilliams1075 2 жыл бұрын
Love you buddy. Your a good kid. Maybe you ain't a kid. Oh well love your Alaskan spirit.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Rod
@masgrey9608
@masgrey9608 2 жыл бұрын
So thankful you and your dog are alright. That is a shame the cow put you in a position to defend yourself. Glad you were prepared, stay well.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot. I appreciate the kind comments.
@shainshartershwate7421
@shainshartershwate7421 2 жыл бұрын
A cow is a cow a moose is a moose
@masgrey9608
@masgrey9608 2 жыл бұрын
@@shainshartershwate7421 Actually that is not correct......"A mature male moose is called a bull, a mature female a cow and an immuture moose of either sex a calf."
@vic2796
@vic2796 2 жыл бұрын
Wow it took 5 slugs?
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
My first one hit her right by the eye, maybe that would have been enough but I was not about to wait around to find out. I kept shooting until she went down.
@11bravoak
@11bravoak 2 жыл бұрын
Hell yes moose are dangerous , especially with calf's.. good on you for plugging her with a sufficient round
@guaporeturns9472
@guaporeturns9472 2 жыл бұрын
So you dropped it with a head shot and then shot it four more times? Was it a clean brain hit? Just curious , not judging in any way… I’ve been charged before , I know how everything gets crazy real fast.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
The head shot stopped the charge but she did not go down right away. I fired 4 more shots, very quickly for a pump gun, and she turned broadside as she was going down and my las shot went through both lungs. The rest were head on lengthwise with no exit holes. She was very agitated and could take a ton of lead before dying.
@poobank
@poobank 6 ай бұрын
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 did you get the auto loading CZ shotgun after this? If so was this the reason to go autoloading over a pump?
@tomortale2333
@tomortale2333 2 жыл бұрын
i read they have places for ;''orphaned'' animals like for deer moose..elk ect..
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Not around here that I know of.
@colt10mmsecurity68
@colt10mmsecurity68 Жыл бұрын
Where? 1,500 miles away in another state??? Chhhhhhh.
@algoresports7847
@algoresports7847 2 жыл бұрын
Good work! I had a moose bluff charge in Moose Pass, AK one winter. Luckily it stopped about 75 feet away, but my blood was pumping as pointed my 45/70 at it. But you actually went through the whole thing up close! Hats off to you!
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, blood was pumping here too. Take care.
@motormouth2472
@motormouth2472 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you're okay. I've never seen a moose in person, but I'm sure it's not fun to have one charge you. You did what you had to do, and the meat will be eaten by someone, which is always good. Sort of similar to hunting, except the moose tried to hunt you, but failed. Lol. In all seriousness though, I am glad you are okay and hope whoever had the meat enjoyed it.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot, I appreciate the kind words.
@motormouth2472
@motormouth2472 2 жыл бұрын
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 you're very welcome. God bless
@Jc_jenson_drone33
@Jc_jenson_drone33 Жыл бұрын
Did you clean the moose and get the meat in it
@BOTthelesser
@BOTthelesser 10 ай бұрын
I would assume he did if the trooper left it
@Bullets4Bucks
@Bullets4Bucks 2 жыл бұрын
Wow exciting
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
You got that right, more excitement than I bargained for.
@christinamoneyhan5688
@christinamoneyhan5688 2 жыл бұрын
You had to do what you had to do, no one likes to have to destroy a animal but, you know it was the only thing at that moment to do to save yourself and you dog. No one will or should be looking down on you. They were not there.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the kind words.
@minfamilie4319
@minfamilie4319 2 жыл бұрын
I can see you are not ok after killing the moose, you seem like a kind non confrontational guy. I honestly dislike moose. I'm Argentinian but I live in Norway and here they cause a lot of car accidents. My in-laws almost died because one of these beasts crossed the road while they were driving back home, it ended up badly hurt so they have to call the authorities to put it down.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear about your in-laws. Stay safe over there.
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 2 жыл бұрын
now you have meat for months :)
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
I don't but someone will. In Alaska any animal shot out of season for defense goes to charity or people who sign up on a list, same applies to roadkill. It's a good system that prevents people from not killing out of season if they don't need without wasting anything.
@sillysad3198
@sillysad3198 2 жыл бұрын
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 yeah, thats clever
@buckberthod5007
@buckberthod5007 2 жыл бұрын
Right in the freezer I'd hope
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Somebodies freezer. Animals killed in self defense go to charity or the roadkill list.
@crowmagnon4649
@crowmagnon4649 2 жыл бұрын
Yummy.mana from heaven. Good for you.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
The people who got the meat seemed to really appreciate it so that is good.
@factorybear5264
@factorybear5264 2 жыл бұрын
Send me some meat bro. I’m Upstate New York and could really use some.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
With animals killed in defense of life and property Alaska, the meat belongs to the state. It is usually given to charities and in this case the roadkill list. Its a good rule that prevents people from killing for meat and claiming self defense.
@crystalblueocean
@crystalblueocean 2 жыл бұрын
You shot a moose and her calf because your dog was barking at them?
@minfamilie4319
@minfamilie4319 2 жыл бұрын
No. He said the moose charged at him, they run super fast and are agressive as f** specially the females. English is not my first language and even I understood what he said. And he said it twice.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
I know you are just trying to provoke a negative response, if you watched the video you would know that is not the case.
@SlayCam
@SlayCam 6 ай бұрын
That is NOT what happened
@shellyd3302
@shellyd3302 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if you were competent this could have been avoided, hope you learn from this and put up some fencing.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Fence is not really practical here. Trust me, I have examined the situation and what I could have done better. I see moose around almost every day. This was an incident of very unusual and aggressive moose behavior and I did exactly what I had to do.
@Robert.Northwoods
@Robert.Northwoods 2 жыл бұрын
Good that nothing happened to you...but on the other hand it was completely your fault. And because of that you killed or at least you were the reason that two animals were killed. I live on the same environment as you. No one is allowed here to carry a hand gun also no one is allowed to let their hunting dogs or dogs over all roaming around the house without any supervision. Your dog did what he was breeded for. Again without any supervision. That is completely stupid and irresponsible. I would charge you a fine for that. But as the name of the channel is showing somehow your mindset it doesn't make any sense to discuss this with you. The one thing you should have learned out of that is to behave responsible and care about your environment. Like a few million people do as well living in a similar region with similar threads and wildlife. You should donate at least the meat.
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875
@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a sad country if you can't have a dog in your yard on an invisible fence. You do not understand the circumstances or context surrounding what happened here. Meat from animals killed in defense of life and property are given to charities or the roadkill list.
@Robert.Northwoods
@Robert.Northwoods 2 жыл бұрын
@@gunsgearoutdoorsalaska5875 I just know the context you was giving....again, your fault. How long you are living there? I guess long enough that you should know that cow and calves are wandering around especially in winter to find food. You also may know that a cow will protect the calve. With all that knowledge in mind, you are too lazy to walk with your dog or supervise him properly. You were attacked by this animal because your behaviour wasn't proper and you are too lazy to walk your dog. If the meat is donated by law that is good. I would assume otherwise you would put it your freezer without thinking about a kind act. When it comes to sad countries....we aren't sad. We just know how to behave properly and we don't use invisible fence....you know the problem which such a fence is that your dog learned through pain not leave. No wild creature knows that. First you are teaching your dog through pain and second of you don't understand that if you bring it down to one point it was your fault. Stating then I'm coming from a sad country....because XYZ....what are a f***ing racist or nazi?
@minfamilie4319
@minfamilie4319 2 жыл бұрын
A Swede trying to lecture about manners and control. Oh, the irony...! I live in a small town in Norway. You know very well that if a moose charges at you there is very little time to react. Yes you don't carry guns, that doesn't make you better than anybody. It only makes you defenseless. So ta deg en bolle Lars, Gunnar or whatever your name is and if you love nature so much go hug a tree.
@sasquatchrosefarts
@sasquatchrosefarts Жыл бұрын
​@@Robert.Northwoodsclearly the driveway territory belonged to him and his dog,.....and not a wandering moose . That moose.mama was crazy. She knew better. did you know some moose wander into summer outdoor parties and try and kill people? Even if they have been making noise for hours? And it's at their established home and residence, a nd even with fences? And continuous outdoor dog presence? You're a crazy person. You should be in the smoker with these moose.
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