I'll Never Use Free Samples Packs Again

[@DJPain1]

Free Samples: packs.musz.io/the-squeeze-free-sample-pack-15-royalty-for-placements-syncs-onl/c0f7b849 Firestarters: thesamplelab.com/products/fire-starters-vol-1 More Free Samples: bit.ly/atepack Even More Free Samples: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaSbqaSvod-inJYsi=yvd0MnqwkO1QaV7e

[@macklova6440]

The Integrity you possess is why I enjoy and trust doing firm business with you 💯

[@DJPain1]

Appreciate you

[@TH3G3RM4NGUY]

Integrity?

[@tisbutascratch9374]

absolutely! 100%. thank you for being the person you are bro. wish there were more like you in the community!

[@jam3-z8s]

Respect🔥

[@Mista808]

4:15 Bro the cats were in the background reliving the scene from Lion King where Scar throws Mufasa to his death! 🤣

[@DJPain1]

😂😂 I saw that too

[@spcedouttshott]

Well hey, stop using the term “free”. Why not say “shared equity”. This can reduce the confusion.🤷🏿‍♂️ This goes for everyone!

[@elmzgalaxy3313]

Completely agree

[@DJPain1]

People could just learn the business and that would reduce if not eliminate confusion

[@BLXCKMOZXRT]

Although the stance in this video holds a lot of validity, the thing is that they act like the new market to promote samples for sell, or free, to undeveloped producers isn’t predatory itself as I’ve collected sounds for 15 years and it has never been a thing where well established producers relied on sample packs to land placements through the back door up until the last decade.

[@JayfkProductions876]

True, the Confusion starts at ppl saying (Free) or (Completely Royalty Free), ppl just need to read the Read Me Files.

[@Somanybeats]

Exactly!! Honestly its some lame shxt to me.. like a producers trojan horse

[@thaiboxing67]

As George Carlin used to say if common sense was common every one would have it 😂

[@DJPain1]

I hate how correct this is

[@bboymac84]

Legendary man

[@yoruai3]

What I'm learning as I go forward is that Free is free. The upfront fee. Where everyone who doesn't properly research copyright law gets fkd is understanding that royalties unless expressly stated otherwise are still owed in a contract. The key piece being you don't make money until the whatever is sold and a percentage can even be paid to the creator. It makes perfect sense to pay someone who made something you didn't for there part in your final product. If that's a problem then make all your own loops, melodies, drum patterns progressions etc.

[@DJPain1]

@@yoruai3 the music business is 100% based on IP law. People reject learning IP law and don’t even see how they’re fucking themselves, then wonder why they never succeed in the business

[@JSSoundsmusic]

I don’t see how you have the patience to keep explaining this shit 😅

[@DJPain1]

I kinda don’t 😂

[@rvibe9843]

Great and informative video! Just finding you now. Appreciate what all you're sharing! Your sounds are amazingggg!

[@DJPain1]

Thank you

[@CheckmateBeatz]

You are so good man. Thanks for just keeping it simple and speaking facts. Some people are fucking deluded.

[@Somanybeats]

TLDR producers like him expect you to expect them to expect a backend... I rather learn music theory

[@DJPain1]

People like you proudly refuse to learn the music business and then bitch about the music business being uNfAIr or cOnfuSinG. 🥱

[@Somanybeats]

@DJPain1 Neva that cause I know the head of it is the biggest snake of all. Yall just follow the ways and hide shady practices behind saying "it's the business"

[@DJPain1]

@@Somanybeats😂

[@Somanybeats]

@@cnxrogueone 🤣🤣 sry I don't work a 9-5.. I got rich off the stock market. I make beats for fun but by no means need money from it

[@celesongo]

had pain, discovered pain, I no longer have pain

[@DJPain1]

😅 thank you 🙏🏽

[@TheAJKid]

As an artist that doesn't make much money off music, I don't mind paying the producer and everyone involved with the song, giving credits when they are clearly stated etc.. when I spent so much time putting a finished song together. I enjoy doing it and purchasing/leasing beats is pretty strait forward until stuff like this is brought up. I don't even like that a beat that is leased can just be re-leased to 500 other people, that's ridiculous and really is just double dipping at every step but it is what it is and the market is over-saturated so it makes sense that it's become like this. As an Engineer, I think (in general) producers are the most annoying and unprofessional part of the process and discourages people to even make music because of how many ways they can be weaseled out of revenue and have different ownerships claimed way after the fact by contorting copyright laws in their favor. I don't agree with stealing things people consider theirs, but I also don't agree with the legally predatory system. Imagine if plugin companies tomorrow were like, "Hey, you used our plugin on your song, you owe us royalties and credits".... How far is this going to go? Anyways, love DJ Pain1, I'm a loyal customer. If everything was clearly stated in a lease or agreement, I have to agree with it, my take is purely from a perspective of someone who works with local artists who have no idea these things are going to haunt them in the future. Just an anecdotal take on it from an aspiring nobody with student loan debt, trying to make music in his room, funded by a home studio and a full time job. Cheers.

[@xMaSSxHyST3RiA]

YES!!! Thank you for saying exactly what I wanted to say but not being too lazy to put it in words.. especially the Plugin company thing.. sounds like the only safe way to make music is by inventing your own instruments and possibly a new language cuz who knows how far they can take this crap if they really wanted to!

[@Note_Creator]

4:10 cats getting it on 😂. Hope they spayed, or you will have more.

[@DJPain1]

@@Note_Creator it’s a spayed male and an unspayed 2 month old male reenacting the lion king

[@Note_Creator]

@@DJPain1 long live the king

[@SAIIX100]

I see it as building a house. The builder sells the house but there were several factors that were involved in making the final build and each person involved gets their part. I hope that makes sense lol

[@DJPain1]

@@SAIIX100 it’s problematic because no other product comes with two distinct copyrights the way recorded music does

[@SAIIX100]

@@DJPain1 Unfortunately, people don't have the revelation of the work required to produce. The beat is the foundation of a song.

[@RollinswaggSounds]

I believe it's a premium tier upload group involved.

[@tisbutascratch9374]

hey do you have MIDI packs? If not, i think those would also help you in your profession. Selling MIDI and MIDI packs are also not a bad thing, whats your take on them?

[@DJPain1]

Yep I have a frw

[@korniceman3000]

Most producers know better than that. There's a reason why all sample packs (free or paid) have terms of agreement enclosed inside. Producers need to read them beforehand to know what the terms and conditions are. They just hope to get away with not having to pay any equity, royalties, or share any profit in an effort to stiff loopmakers under the word as "free" as a blanket clause to disregard the loop agreement or license.

[@DJPain1]

Most? Definitely not most of my viewers.

[@ifrowizzybeatz]

In my experience as a half a decade producer, and in addition to your comment, I'll say all these topics of clearing samples and copyright beef is because of our ignorant newbies artist wanting to identify also a beat maker overnight. If artist wants to identify as a beat makers then they shoul not only listen to other artist songs to get inspired, they could start listening to other producers/beatmakers mentor's and get inspired also, then truly there wont be need for song takedown in the market anymore. Respect to some producers like Pain, who dedicate his time to study these topics and share to the community. ❤

[@korniceman3000]

@@ifrowizzybeatz Granted some are newbies that are willfully ignorant but if you download some of their "free" packs, you will soon discover that they too include terms and conditions inside their loop kits. Which tells me they want equity for their work. They just aren't willing to cut a share for someone else's. I believe many fully understand the concept of these free packs but just don't want to share when it comes to earnings.

[@mattavelibeats9986]

Yo pain bro you are much needed, you put me on so much game bro much respect!

[@DJPain1]

Happy to help

[@WforWrath]

@5:34 and you'd owe the cats a percentage

[@DJPain1]

They don’t pay rent

[@TH3G3RM4NGUY]

​@@DJPain1 ah just like you don't pay anyone else's bills.

[@DJPain1]

@@TH3G3RM4NGUY you want me to pay your bills or something?

[@ifrowizzybeatz]

More to community, appreciate Pain. 😅

[@aliabdullah1890]

It should be clear from the beginning that a part of the proceeds from the "free" sample packs will go to the creator of the pack. When something is marketed as free, the average person is going to think that once they get it, it's theirs. If someone gives me a free car, then I go paint it and sell it, it wouldn't expect the person that gave me the free car to demand I give him some money. It should be clear from the beginning that, hey, this free thing isn't yours, you don't own it, you're allowed to use it for free and make money with it, but I get a percentage. That part is usually in fine print, though, so people think those samples are now theirs, ignorant of copyright laws and such.

[@Prod.Sweezy]

cars are peices of metal produced by a machine. while beats, songs, and loops are ART, horrible take

[@DJPain1]

I’ve busted this narrative so many times and I’m exhausted. Learn the business you’re in or don’t.

[@korniceman3000]

It is VERY CLEAR. Most if not all sample packs free or paid come with an agreement or usage license with clearly written terms and conditions alongside contact information regarding licensing, clearance, royalty sharing, ownership, profit splitting, usage and distribution restrictions, etc. You don't need to know copyright laws because the terms are spelled out already by the loopmaker in the pack.

[@europeReport]

fishing minds fuk up trust

[@europeReport]

exhausted fish

[@ZonymaUnltd.]

*Foster Loud Cats* 😂

[@Hiddeninthineheart]

And I'll say it again..I definitely want equity. As a loopmaker/producer there needs to be some type of disclaimer when working with artists and producers. Copyright and publishing is a thing. Music unfortunately if you go so far is a business. I learned this when I produced Diced Pineapples, never paid, learned the hard way. Because of my experience I prefer to meet and or know the artist and work with them so performance rights, and publishing can be worked out in writing...edit if there was a way for to charge for my public commentary for your branding I'd prolly charge you for that, tbh. If you say it's free use and it's not free use, we'll your borderline scamming/gaslighting at that point. But opinions are like..

[@DJPain1]

Look man, free means you’re not paying for it. Equity isn’t the same as paying. You guys need to learn IP law. I’ve explained it more times than any other human on KZbin and you’re still not getting it

[@luigi171296]

How about paid sample packs like cymatics? Do you have a video explaining those samples and what it means for your releases? I’m just ignorant and even if I buy a pack I’m afraid to use it cause i don’t have much information

[@DJPain1]

@@luigi171296 I don’t make videos about specific sample packs because I don’t need to- they all come with their own terms. Just read those terms. I make videos to explain what the terms mean so you can be independent and confident when you use these packs.

[@ceemor3404]

Salute my brother 🙏🏽

[@gxbeatsss]

Well, I’m bout to go download your sample packet and see what I can make. I haven’t made anything recently so let’s hope I make something good.🎉🤝🎉

[@DJPain1]

@@gxbeatsss you will!!!

[@gxbeatsss]

@@DJPain1 yep🤝

[@gxbeatsss]

@@DJPain1 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mX-Wlp14ncqFeq8

[@davidrios9033]

Your cats wanted to be in the video so bad lol. Kinda like when a news reporter is reporting live on location and people in the background want to be on camera lmao!

[@mykillmatic]

One time I heard an old joyner lucas song with a sample/loop that i also used, and it came from a djpain1 pack (free pack) this was when i first started taking making beats 80% serious. I Just remember thinking my version was harder... Just wish i still had that loop or beat (old pc crashed in 2018ish) only because we now have stem seperation, i could remixed that shht and posted for free and fun....I also did wonder did Djpain1 get any credit for that track.. it was never popular and it might have just been featuring joyner... I think it was from one of the free "unfinished friday" sampe packs... i gotta redownload those

[@DJPain1]

Whoa which song was it?

[@mykillmatic]

@@DJPain1 ive been trying to find it... i'll et you know if i do

[@mykillmatic]

@@DJPain1 Finally found it, im not 100% sure if this came from one of your sample packs but im pretty damn sure it is, it was one of the first hardest beats i made using that sample. its (Joyner Lucas, Shallo Mac, & Scrapy Doe - Last Week) kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGXdoZadediIfLs lmk if it did come from you

[@dimestop5336]

Pain i been following you awhile now, your content as taught me loads about the industry, its savage, im an old dude, i work in the loop community, im a featured artist on Looperman a site im sure you know, i rap on beats sing and produce others too, im tiny still learning and the promotion side, an amateur that behaves like a pro, with no big follows only in my community where i get thousands of plays, never made a penny lol, ive been doing it 4 years, vocals 2, ive worked with pro's in the business no one big btw on tracks they also granted me the IP i own it, i have tracks i could monetise, i have never ever thought about monetising until recently because of the artist ive worked recently they all sell and said i should try, i use you and your vids to learn, my work is free to download, its not free if your making off it, im taking ya to court, but your dam right, everyone involved if its making, the creator of a loop or a verse drop wants his cut, i give credit to the beatmaker always, ive got talent maybe 60% but i got 100% drive, i play keys and drums write and produce and wanted to thank you personally, sorry its long, im not really a commentor, more a student, samples give artist creativity surely thats worth paying for if it lands with a bang continue to dispel the lies that are spread bro,

[@DJPain1]

@@dimestop5336 thank you 🙏🏽

[@hockeytalk6084]

The people in these comments sections are so lost and bitter they are just outing themselves…good luck y’all 🤷‍♂️. This dude is telling you the information that you need in order to effectively network and increase your opportunities in this industry, and you guys are not only rejecting it, but doubling down on your ignorance….thank you Pain for being a real one and getting this info out there despite 99% of the producer community choosing to shoot themselves (and the people around them) directly in the foot. Literally all my placements are off “free”samples that were NOT royalty free and it actually terrifies me to see the way people think. As an absolute nobody, I was able to collaborate with Billboard producers by simply respecting their terms and understanding the business lol. These people actually have no idea how ignorant they look and sound.

[@DJPain1]

Can’t reach everybody 🤷🏽

[@tzodearf2596]

Thanks for the samples; I got a carton of eggs.

[@LD40PRODUCTIONSLLC]

In DJ Pain we trust !!! 😀

[@mostmost1]

I still have sample packs from 2005 music magazine out of UK. I thought the free part was for amateurs.

[@Patrick-ryan-collins]

Thank you for making boring ip law accessible to my lame brains. Seriously ❤

[@DJPain1]

This is the most encouraging comment yet

[@T.M.K-music-kings]

thanks bro

[@DJPain1]

Any time

[@o_gzimusic3244]

I use them to practice but never have I intended to put them.out....we make our own loops and drum.kits now...and put royalty free in the description 😂😅

[@magjanos6567]

I love the free sample packs and I love cats!

[@europeReport]

kyle beats is on the phone, it is about that royalty free samplepack

[@DJPain1]

@@europeReport tell him I’m making beats with it tonight

[@europeReport]

@@DJPain1than you better put your fish where mouth is

[@daddylaing]

I learn a lot trust me from you

[@biggwillbeats4384]

PETA in the music biz ..haz entered da 💬

[@danceswith7wolves]

How do we negotiate after the fact? What's an appropriate percentage? If you have 10 tracks and one is a "free" drum loop does that equal 10% royalties? How to factor in the promotional and branding aspects of the industry?

[@DJPain1]

Read the terms. But I’ve never heard of a drum loop not being royalty free unless it’s an actual sample

[@danceswith7wolves]

@@DJPain1 I don't really know how it works. Terms are usually hidden in the fine print if at all. You have a point with the hypocrisy around artists not wanting to pay dues, but then complaining about it when streaming platforms do it to them. Hypothetically, a back up singer for a star vocalist won't get paid as much as the star, but they still get paid and they maybe just as important get to put it on their resume credits. Would we even know who artists like Eminem were if it wasnt for the label clout that comes with working with producers like Dre 🤔 how do you split the credits? Imo When you are first starting out and have zero followers you might have to give some art away for free just as a sacrifice to get noticed. Kyle was smart to blow up that story because he never wanted the money, he was after the clicks and clout and that might be even more valuble for building a brand around your artwork

[@DJPain1]

@@danceswith7wolves there’s no fine print. It’s right there. People don’t read agreements and blame it on ‘fine print.’ All fonts are the same size and numbers are not hard to understand. None of us want these terms hidden. We don’t like fighting with people who want to be greedy. We want easy and simple splits.

[@FLAVMEDIA]

What A Catastrophe:)

[@K505KID]

How can i only get updates for your music only and not your trash advice?

[@TheBeatHatahs]

The thumbnail got our attention. What bout the Cymatics 0:44

[@russelledwards2405]

I have no issue with someone setting terms for THEIR creation, especially when it's free. I'm unlikely to use it for a commercial production if the terms are too steep. I can understand an artist charging 50/50 for a sample, but a loop doesn't hold the same value to me. I still find free packs useful for teaching, which is what I mostly do anyway

[@DJPain1]

Artists want 100% for a sample. If you manage to retain 25% of a track for using a loop, it’s a godsend

[@burrypoughjr5724]

As a new beatmaker/ producer I really don't see an issue with giving loop makers or sample creators credit for a song you made using their loops I think it's common sense

[@DJPain1]

You would think so until you read the comments

[@burrypoughjr5724]

​@@DJPain1damn

[@themanfromvolantis]

Just do what i do. Make your loops so appalling that nobody steals them. Yes Indeed. I is the winR

[@DJPain1]

@@themanfromvolantis 😂😂

[@hockeytalk6084]

Another comment section that hurts my brain lol. These people may be beyond saving Pain 😭

[@unsubzeroed9792]

If I flip any of your samples, can I just split the producers share 50/50 from the jump? Instead of waiting til something “blows up”. I think with the mindset that end of the day it won’t be the ONLY song I make

[@DJPain1]

@@unsubzeroed9792 that’s more generous than necessary but many people do that.

[@unsubzeroed9792]

@@DJPain1 well 😅 honestly I say cause I flip and rap over the records myself and release under too lost, wanted to flip it and split from the publishing level and master recording level (commenting from my non-artist account)

[@orondeshaw]

You can put my comment in your video and call me dumb lol that cool. I just don’t like using loops. Say what you want. There is plenty of dope plugins to make music without having to start off with someone else’s idea.

[@DJPain1]

I called you dumb?

[@markhunt1813]

I love samples 😍

[@ZgraceLee]

Thank god i discovered Ms. Krystal from Top Lawyer. Im not gonna lie, i neva thought even thought to read terms of service. You jus want to produce. After watchin an episode of Ms. Krystal talkin bout Splice terms of service, plus folks b4 dat sayin distro kid or Spotify takin their bread bcuz of a sample dat wuz deemed royalty free. So all dat made me confused. I havent done no placements. But i do enjoy cookin wit existin ingredients n mixin my own twist to it. Back in tha day i used to kraft everything from scratch only. Bcuz my then mentor put it in my head dat I shouldnt sample or get into dat. He frowned upon it n didnt respect tha art. He saw it as laziness, copyin otha folksz work, n stealin. So i neva got tha opportunity to learn tha skill then in my youth. I would like to make money but im definitely gonna start readin terms n otha docs from now on so i can fully understand the fine print. I would have easily believed dat free means i dont have to pay any future bread if paid. Since i keep hearing different info on this topic, I'm fo sho gonna fully educate myself on this.

[@mbmbeatzent.]

🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥

[@thaiboxing67]

You sure the Cat didn’t make that beat? 😂

[@mykillmatic]

If you get a free sample or loop and you make a million dollar song... give that mfer their just due, free or not.

[@x9beatz]

producers who have a problem with free sample packs the same ones to complain when the artists refuse to pay cus their beats got 'free' in the title 😭

[@DJPain1]

🎯

[@Leejohnsonpt]

The minute you get a sample pack free or purchased you are now a co producer!! It’s f**king simple lol Pay your co producer they are owed 3-5% masters and half the publishing. Get with it and get used to it.

[@biggwillbeats4384]

5:03 😆🤣..what they gonna sing about ‘rasslin’⁉️😆 You inna lions den. @DJPain1 🦁…🦁🦁🦁‼️

[@DJPain1]

😂😂

[@danceswith7wolves]

The cats 🙀🎶 are ⭐ already

[@danceswith7wolves]

Now you gotta do scripted bits were the 😻 walks in and steals the show 😅 that's a huge part of the business... Cat-fo-tainment

[@DJPain1]

@@danceswith7wolveslol it really is

[@tbonebeats6429]

They need to change the language. Stop calling it Free when it's not totally free. Call it, "Collaboration packs" , "beat Partnership packs". Royalty share packs" I get it , the word free is more attractive but somewhat misleading. Call it what it is, not what's more appealing.

[@DJPain1]

@@tbonebeats6429 what exactly are you paying for and to whom if it’s not free? Please explain.

[@tbonebeats6429]

@@DJPain1 the user is essentially paying the sample/loop maker a portion of their royalties if a certain threshold is reached. If it were truly 'free' by definition, the user wouldn’t have to pay anything at any point. Let’s be clear about what this really is: sample and loop creators are allowing producers to use their work with the hope that one of those producers lands a placement, ultimately getting paid via that producer. That's genius! There’s nothing wrong with that approach; I understand it. Let's just call it what it is.

[@ghost-user559]

@@DJPain1You are paying equity on the track. You are then paying royalties forever and forgoing ownership of a percentage of your arrangements. That’s not “free” thats an exchange of value. If you purchase a company by trading equity it’s not a free company you “bought in”. No one would get a house on mortgage and market that as free just because they got the house on equity, its called “buying a house”. Just because you acknowledge the music industry is based on non transparent language and shady deals as standard practice doesn’t mean people are less intelligent for calling that out. It means that they recognize the scam you accept as normal. No one in Hollywood markets a movie they are selling as a “free script”, because it’s not free, they deserve royalties even if it’s a spec script. Why does the music industry feel the need to obfuscate and confuse when every other industry can rely on upfront conversations? That’s what people are saying and you’ve read it and you know because you left comments gaslighting all of them for their moral stance. I respect the hustle and I also think it’s intentionally misleading, but in the end it’s on them for not doing due diligence. But acting like people “just don’t understand” is disingenuous. People definitely are out there who do understand ip and still feel the strategy is completely dishonest. No other creative industry I know of feels the need to be shady with such basic language in their dealings, seems like a leftover of the abusive relationship between managers and labels taking advantage of young artists. It’s a language game thats totally unnecessary and not forthright about expectations.

[@DJPain1]

@@tbonebeats6429 so you’re sending payments to the loop makers?

[@DJPain1]

@@ghost-user559 how are you paying it out? Via check? PayPal?

[@N3yo100]

i am like 198 its for the cats

[@daddylaing]

What about beating on the beat maker those samples are copyrighted too

[@josephibarra570]

Do you have a vid explaining what 100% royalty free means?

[@DJPain1]

Yes

[@Lucy-jc5wg]

Always read the fine print. I used a royalty-free pack and didn't open the read me file. Now I owe the life of my first born heir.

[@DJPain1]

@@Lucy-jc5wgyeah sure

[@Probeats222]

That’s why samplemakers have terms and conditions listed it’s no different than the Free type beat game it’s free but only for non profit. Samples are free but only for non profit unless it makes money. It’s not hard to understand

[@DJPain1]

@@Probeats222 people act like it’s a t mobile contract

[@draggabeats]

People should read the terms of the samples prior to using them. It’s not that hard. If you want full equity then just stick to royalty-free. It’s not that hard.

[@DJPain1]

it's terribbbllleeeeeee

[@tyronedavison5286]

So you go out and scam unsuspecting rookie beatmakers/producers...Got it...

[@DJPain1]

@@tyronedavison5286 I ask for fair splits and morons who can’t read a music business book get in their feelings

[@tyronedavison5286]

@DJPain1 Yeah whatever makes you sleep better at night..It's very misleading language and you know it.I guess that's just the music biz...Everybody gets screwed..

[@thenononsensegang]

Acid all day 💪🏽

[@JayfkProductions876]

5 Words: Read The Read Me File.. Done. As far as the Kyle situation the he made it look based on no mention of liscense terms and & a click baitey video it seemed like he was tryina finesse, then at the end u find out its a promo video 😂

[@NickyTesla]

2:10 DJ Red Pilled 1

[@DJPain1]

😂

[@EvilTwinzTVOfficial]

people gotta read the terms not just assume

[@DJPain1]

But they’d rather be mad

[@ckwnce8282]

i don't think they're trolling -- i think a lot of those people are genuinely dense and selfish lol

[@DJPain1]

@@ckwnce8282 yeah 🤦🏽 reading my comments, I have to agree

[@ckwnce8282]

@@DJPain1 they’re like, “we won’t be using anyone’s ‘free’ samples ever again!” i’m just over here like, that’s probably fine because ‘you’ weren’t going to credit or cut the composer(s) in anyway 🤣 - you actually understand the legality of these situations and they can’t grasp that their greed will either (continue to) never land them placements [at best] or be reprimanded in the future lmao

[@justkevbeats]

Maybe they should learn the difference between free and royalty free? I'ts not that difficult🙃

[@DJPain1]

Let them tell it, it’s advanced calculus mixed with the art of war mixed with physics mixed with cia infiltration techniques

[@cookup969]

Did you cut the cats in on the revenue share on this video?! 🧐🧐🧐

[@DJPain1]

Yeah they get free rent, food and medical benefits

[@xMaSSxHyST3RiA]

​@@DJPain1Free rent you say lol careful with your choice of words there pal! 😂

[@jonesconrad1]

Proud to be Dumb | Wilful ignorance

[@DJPain1]

Yep lots of comments proving this

[@kymlove2006]

Free packs is different from Royalty Free people

[@DJPain1]

@@kymlove2006 they don’t hear you

[@THE_PEN_ASYLUM]

Read Read Read....TERMS!!!

[@skeetskeet4515]

Year, after year, It's intriguing how confusingly clever, the average hip hop, and RnB producer, seems to maneuver around a music mind field. I mean even Polow da Don has filed suit against country signer Kane Brown. I can be mistaken, but I have never heard of any music producers outside of these genres going through the same problems, other than "Jamaican producers Steely & Clevie copyright infringement in at least 1800 reggaeton tracks lawsuit", and some K-pop law suits that was mostly lables, and management. I would guess that since those two genres (Hip Hop, and RnB) are popular (as of now, afro beats is larger), business maneuverability works it's magic, but it feel like it's street level dealings that go on with hip hop, and RnB, instead of professional level out comes

[@johnviera3884]

it’s like your friend giving you one of his beats for free and saying you have to split any profit you make from the beat 50% with him.

[@cesarbarbosa4109]

Naw, you release a free pack you’re not owed anything.

[@DJPain1]

@@cesarbarbosa4109 people like this don’t actually make a living in the music business.

[@Soniccairo]

jus not how that works lol

[@cesarbarbosa4109]

@@DJPain1 it’s the creator choice. They could also try and sell it.

[@bboymac84]

Ain’t nothing free! But I just want credit and piece of ownership because you used my art to make your money. Lol

[@DewayneOh6]

Maybe sample pack creators should add this to their advertisements, "Free Ain't Free".

[@DJPain1]

If it’s free, it’s free. Maybe producers musicians learn the musician business.

[@DewayneOh6]

@DJPain1 I hear you. I just think producers have royalty free ingrained in their brain that they don't pay attention. Thus, promotional materials will have to point out the difference.

[@DJPain1]

@@DewayneOh6they don’t even know what royalty free means to begin with

[@DewayneOh6]

@@DJPain1We know that a lot of producers and artists out there don't care to learn the business. How do we get the message across that free use doesn't mean the maker has given up ownership? It seems the use of the word "Free" in promotions is sending the wrong message. We may not like that, but consumer behavior is showing that they feel they have no obligations to the creator. The same goes if they lease or buy an exclusive. Since we can't control what they do and how they feel, we need to adjust what we do. What other options are there besides limiting who we let access our loops and tracks?

[@DJPain1]

@@DewayneOh6 how do we teach people who are proudly anti-learning? We don’t. Fuck em. Adults are adults.

[@QuesoPeso]

Simple read the terms

[@DJPain1]

To extend that: Know the business, read the terms, don’t be a bitch.

[@jroeelectronic]

Just don't call it free, that's all

[@DJPain1]

Nothing I do/say/explain/show will help 80% of you understand the music business and IP law, which is why the vast majority of people don’t make it

[@TH3G3RM4NGUY]

​@@DJPain1stop with the same tired cop out... "You don't understand da industry". We understand your game we just think it's pathetic and soulless. You may not be able to compete without these loopholes waiting for your gotcha moment but plenty of others do just fine without degrading themselves.

[@Stuup1dTheProducer]

But it is free lol....free to use....normally you'd pay just to use.....you all don't read the agreements when yall buy packs

[@ghost-user559]

@@Stuup1dTheProducerBro, a brand new house is “free to use” but no one calls paying the equity on a mortgage “a free house” they call it “buying a house”. No one in any other industry would play cute and act brand new like “free anything” isn’t shady. It is. It’s intentional, and it’s meant to trap unsuspecting customers into litigation. I think most people understand the loopholes in the legalese used. As others have stated it’s just a lack of honor and character to present something as “free” when in fact the cost is equity.

[@MyMusiclover76]

@@ghost-user559it’s free to use. Not free to profit from. Just like if you get a free demo from a plugin in. Of course the limitations are more clear & in your face, but that is not the way samples work in the music industry. Y’all should learn more about a business before just entering it. Listen to veterans who have lived through it. There are lots of not so obvious laws in place to protect intellectual property.

[@dw543]

This is my first time seeing one of your videos. You come off as condescending, dismissive, and combative. This is coming from someone who agrees with some of the stuff you were saying. If this is your brand… Cool do you think. If not, you might wanna log off the Internet for a while, bro. I’m definitely not subscribing for more content where it feels like people are being talked down to SMH.

[@DJPain1]

@@dw543 cool man

[@YFCEdan]

Bro if I ever make a sample pack and I have it for free, just know, it's legit for free. I'll even share the process of how I made some of the samples. People need inspiration to create. To "left hook" someone like this, is just plain rude.

[@DJPain1]

People who think shared equity is a ‘left hook’ aren’t actually in the music business

[@RitualFlip]

Any self respecting sample based producer shouldn’t be using packs at all imo….

[@DJPain1]

@@RitualFlip if you only knew

[@dreamlifebeats]

@@DJPain1 indeed!

[@sidvicious332]

Your videos are getting weird and stale. I have to unsubscribe and don't recommend channel. Sorry. Peace.

[@DJPain1]

Oh no

[@JaylanLeedw]

First