I Love QD-OLED, But EVERYONE Is Wrong about Samsung S95B's Brightness & Colours

We give 2 reasons why we love QD-OLED, but here's why everyone is wrong about the "superior" brightness & colours on the Samsung S95B. Get Surfshark VPN at surfshark.deals/HDTVTest - Enter promo code HDTVTest to get 83% and 3 extra months for FREE!
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0:06 S95B Strength #1
0:40 S95B Strength #2
1:20 Samsung Trick #1
4:06 vs LG C1
5:12 Samsung Trick #2
6:01 The Brutal Truth
11:01 Clarification
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[@TorrellesEdit]

I wouldn't mind it if they had this curve in all window percentages, but how they try and trick reviewers and the audience with the "only accurante in the typical window sizes" and it also affecting filmmaker mode seems pretty immoral and reprehensible, to say the least. I wish this video sparks some sort of "samsung-gate". Great job as always!

[@Deffine]

I could already tell looking at the screens on a LCD that the QD-OLED has oversaturated colors. Its blatantly obvious. Sadly, many consumers will actually prefer this oversaturated look.

[@xXJeReMiAhXx99]

@@Deffine i wouldnt mind it if it only oversaturated hdr highlights, but we can clearly see its over doing everything, skin is pink or orange, background scenery is popping out and monotone evening scenes are converted into sunny mid day.

[@JonPais]

@@xXJeReMiAhXx99 I want accuracy, not oversaturated highlights. We’ll just have to wait and see what Sony delivers.

[@brandonlee7382]

Samsung nearly got away with this, not on Vincent's watch! Lol I'm gonna stay away from s95b till Samsung fix these issues. I had a feeling Samsung was doing processing magic and glad Vincent exposed it. I'm not mad at the reviewers as they are everyday people like us making a living, Shame on Samsung for tricking us

[@kuxii_youtube]

@@brandonlee7382 There is no issue if that's how they intended to make it

[@xkitejunkie]

So this is basically the "Diesel Gate" of TVs. Test pattern window size detection algorithms are just like dyno emission test algorithms. It's a shameful and intentional deception of how your product behaves in the real world.

[@di3ruptor919]

The same with their phones, they cheat all the time :)

[@Lasse3]

They just fixed Filmmaker mode in a firmware update, it's accurate now. I kept saying that people needed to calm down with their diesel gate analogies, and that it would be fixed, I was right.

[@pufero1]

Samsung always do the same shit on phones they did that on past.

[@Lasse3]

@@pufero1 a Swift firmware update fixed the inaccuracy. It's accurate now!!! What's your problem? The LG c1 still completely misstracks EOTF in filmmaker mode, and same goes for A90J. Major problems with near-black tracking. Never fixed, it will never be fixed, sorry LG and Sony owners. Where is your pizza gate allegations when it comes to LG and Sony?

[@janduller4722]

@@di3ruptor919 dont talking shit idiot. s95b is the better tv. its mindblowing i have always lg oled, but the qd oled from samsung is real next level. Vincent is a troll, he will be paid by lg. dynamic tonemapping on at the lg is also not how the creator intend it! s95b looking natural. and is also accurate now! kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJ_aXmylib6tZsU

[@mikem12406]

I think Samsung did something similar with their phones a few years ago. When the phone detected certain benchmark software was running, it would overclock the processor by 20%, at the expense of battery life. I'm willing to bet that this new OLED technology is amazing, but the marketing department ruined it.

[@Redhotsmasher]

I thought a whole bunch of phone manufacturers were caught dabbling in that sort of benchmark cheating back then? (Not trying to defend Samsung)

[@rodioleary]

This did happen.

[@addicz2]

Ah. The old wound

[@SirAlph4]

Its common in the phone space everyone does this

[@xbt2459]

@@SirAlph4 not apple. just huawei xiaomi oneplus and some other android phones

[@Amleria]

Thank you Vincent. All that's left for me to do is join in and say this kind of content is why you are extremely highly valued and respected by many. The community is lucky to have someone like you.

[@ouki4925]

Vincent is the only one who does it right. Many KZbinrs are comparing TVs without a reference display to act as a control. You're basically choosing the TV that's most pleasing to YOUR EYES instead of what's technically the superior image.

[@yardman0001]

I like what's more pleasing to my eyes. I don't care about 75 year old reference values.

[@uchenna127]

@@yardman0001 Exactly.

[@reignjuste]

Totally agree.As long as there is no abl and the brightness is right. Insuppose most people will jump to qd oled just for the extra brightness.

[@djm24able]

I mean really though, if the picture is better looking versus the one that is technically correct. Which one does it make more sense to watch on the daily? Why not fully enjoy the capability of the tv instead of worrying if the imagine is all numerically correct? I honestly am kinda confused why being so perfect on your results versus one off a little and the picture is much more colorful and honestly just looks better. Obviously you can have to much of what I’m vouching for right now, a picture can be much to cold or things pertaining to that. Idk I’m going to go with the better picture instead of worrying about meeting some perfect standard ya know lol.

[@TheRasmusdc]

it is actually fun, used to work as an engineer at B&O all displays where factory calibrated, pr panel, however, after MANY MANY MANY tests, it was obvious, that we had to "tone the displays a bit, because of preference of our customers, i get.. the "reference" but you still have a group of people you sell to... and just deliver "reference" is just not always enough.. then All headphones would be what people HATE.. since FLAT audio curves, are not always pleasant to all people, YEAH don´ t "beats" the music, but many people like a bit of warm music, so they sometime even goes tube amplified, the same with tv´s, i tend to strive a bit away from Filmmode, even though i KNOW it is mostly the best setting.

[@JesusMartinez-mk6fc]

Vincent, this video shows why you're at the top of your game and one of the most respected handful authorities when it comes to TV reviews. Having watched the early hands on testing from other KZbinrs and reviewers being overwhelmed by their initial impressions, only you Vincent can overcome the eye candy and dig deep enough to find out what really is going on. I totally agree with your philisophy, I'd rather have accuracy than over saturated colors or artificially boosted HDR to falsely produce a punchier picture that doesn't trully deliver what is in the signal. Kudos for an exceptional intial review Vincent! 👍👏🏆

[@7PlayingWithFire7]

with this type of "cheating" isnt it just the same as using some ugly ass hdr modes on a lg oled?

[@gregio6295]

I agree if you don't like the punchier colors just buy a TCL Hisense tv. Why spend more for capability if your not going to use it just to be accurate.

[@fizywig]

Accuracy is highly affected by light geography in tv room , just like high end hi fi, ( in the case of hi fi, some resort to room “treatment” to ameliorate room dynamics at a high cost- that’s why some prefer high end headphones which negate room dynamics). So unless you watch tv in pitch darkness, accuracy cannot be sole factor determining picture quality fir tv viewing in real rooms

[@ryanrdlps]

KZbin: "This color is only possible on a Samsung display" Vincent: "Hold my reference monitor."

[@SmoggySandwich]

The fact that it tracks properly on the standard test pattern window sizes is bonkers. It would have had to have been a deliberate decision for the TV to do that....

[@nagol567]

This sounds like what Volkswagen did to get past several countries' emissions test. Their Diesel engines had super good tests on a dyno, but if you move the steering wheel suddenly the tests would fall well below regulation. Huge lawsuits came after, unfortunately I don't think anything will come of this besides a tweek to filmmaker mode and an apology several months down the road that only us well informed in the market will ever see or care about.

[@nagol567]

This sounds like what Volkswagen did to get past several countries' emissions test. Their Diesel engines had super good tests on a dyno, but if you move the steering wheel suddenly the tests would fall well below regulation. Huge lawsuits came after, unfortunately I don't think anything will come of this besides a tweek to filmmaker mode and an apology several months down the road that only us well informed in the market will ever see or care about.

[@YavNe]

Because stupid calibrators like this brainwash people on the reference accuracy. People don't care about thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat. 😑

[@marcuscole8796]

Correct ... this is only possible if there is a "test pattern detection" algorithm installed and a second set of instructions how to behave then. You only need to know: in rl you will never watch 10% white windows ... hence you will only see the distorted pictures all the time. Precisely as with these specific VW Diesel cars: the consumers are not doing emission tests ... they are just driving^^

[@CorporateZombi]

Can open... Worms everywhere.

[@garryallen7206]

Ignore the haters Vincent. You have all the receipts with this video.

[@BOSS_1417]

This is why you're the best TV reviewer

[@chrisgault87]

The best by a Mile

[@motherf6969]

RTINGS IS BEST

[@nilok84]

100%

[@luisfernandoarauco9466]

Amen

[@Waffls]

The 10% screen test result smells a lot like the Volkswagen emissions scandal.

[@rancid_]

Mic drop on all the other KZbin videos praising the Samsung. I was fully set to buy a 65" but will wait to see how Samsung responds and post-calibration measurements from Vincent. Ty for the awesome video.

[@adonisds]

Your posted this awesome finding on avs forums 6 days ago. The fact that only now you were able to release the video shows that making videos is a lot harder than I expected. Thanks for all the hard work!

[@Essydyk]

This video puts every single youtube reviewer to shame Vincent. Samsung have pulled this move before and you seem to be the only one to actually have not only the skill to spot it but also the guts to bring it to a wider audience. I suspect you knew what Samsung were up to even before you got this out the box.

[@kingyogesh441]

@rezargamer yes that 🤡 quantum is spazzing out uncontrollably as we speak 😂😂😂😂.

[@blueisthecolor3463]

@rezargamer Or most people don't care about accuracy and want cheaper qd OLED.

[@malazan6004]

@rezargamer yep there will be plenty of buyer's remorse going around after seeing this

[@Aditya_Kumar7622]

So many misleading videos on KZbin man. I don't if Samsung is paying them or something.

[@S3lvah]

Tbf I don't think his point was to put anyone (except Samsung Visual Tech) to shame; that's why the "flame-proof jacket." It was to defend the principles of accurate colours and filmmakers' creative intent, and to oppose bamboozling reviewers with the deliberate 10% window standard carve-out. I hope other reviewers spend less time feeling ashamed and more time taking notes; it's a very useful educational moment.

[@mattl9844]

I appreciate the time, attention to detail, and most of all the *knowledge* you bring to us through these videos. You are the only reviewer so far (4/26) who tried *any* non-standard testing window sizes. I also thought the Samsung looked to bright and had washed out blacks. Like a bad HDR game that instead of increasing brightness/contrast, just increases 0 black to 100 and turns the dark to grey. I bought my last TV (my first 4k and first HDR) based on month's of reviews. I ended deciding I need an LED/LCD for brightness. Your Sony 930E review really helped. I still don't understand how beam forming works, but it's advantages over low count Array Dimming is amazing. Remember at the time of the Sony 930E the LG was the C7. I know it's old, but I never have it (or need it) over 25/50 backlight. I think later this year I will be upgrading to OLED for personal gaming/movie use and transition my previous to the living room. Hopefully, in 4-6 months even more reviews, tests, and examples from you and everyone else will help me decide between the G2, A95K, S95B, and C2. Plus, they should be less expensive and I should finally be able to buy a Xbox Series X by then.

[@zt9233]

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[@jackburrows5850]

Linus Tech Tips: THIS IS THE BEST BRIGHTEST MOST ACCURATE DISPLAY EVER Vincent: Hold My Beer

[@mousec3775]

I love Vincent's refusal to have the wool pulled over his eyes. He helps us all see clearly.

[@TheAnvilMan]

Incredibly detailed video with great explanations on color accuracy and why it matters. Thanks for this kind of great content.

[@SonGoku544]

why does it matter? pls tell me, don't want to watch the whole video

[@mmurat608]

Very confused now thanx. Lol Was about to get this tv cause my z9d is starting to act up now thinking might just wait for the Sony z9k with the micro led.. but not looking forward to the price.. yikes. Can only imagine

[@nagol567]

@@SonGoku544 it's more of a purist thing. If you take several TVs and calibrate them they will all look identical despite their limitations such as led not showing true blacks and not being able to go past a certain brightness. The Filmmaker mode is all about displaying content with your TV calibrated to the same standards that the creators use. no extra brightness. No extra saturation. And you also need to watch in a dark room. But if you just want the TV to look good and colors to pop more and don't care about that then this tv is still going to be fine and most people will actually think it looks better cause eits brighter and the colors pop more the way Samsung tweeked the settings. But it is really messed up that they put it in the TV to trick tv testers in this mode.

[@macmacsk]

@@mmurat608 Sony’s QD-OLED should hopefully be much more accurate that the Samsung.. it releases soon I think.

[@addicz2]

@@SonGoku544 Sony tv is never pop out. People hate it. But when sony follow the Koreans and Chinese brands. People hate it also. They want sony still on their root. A.k.a for purist only. Let the others do the fake colors.

[@chromamaster6147]

You are the only reviewer who caught this. Well done ! Now when I see other reviewers fawning over the S95B and citing better yellows, etc I think of your review and how superficial some of the "expert" reviews are, even from respected sources. The community owes you - you have set yourself apart from all of the other reviewers..

[@crowntotheundergroud]

No shit he's the only reviewer with a $30k reference monitor. The others were waiting for an a95k. Maybe more reviewers should invest in a reference monitor though.

[@domonon]

Big Thanks to Vincent for sharing his expertise and wisdom. I was put off by all these videos praising the s95b like it was the second coming. Samsung basically locked the s95b in store display mode.

[@flipwarrior]

You are the man, Vince, and the only one I truly trust when it comes to displays. Standards matter in everything, otherwise, everything is chaos.

[@yoyo-nf1ww]

Like in France right now.

[@alambe7275]

I agree Mr. Vincent is the man he is the reason why I bought my last two TVs Sony because they were so accurate I left Samsung TVs decades ago because of their oversaturation of colors day pixel issues over saturation of brightness

[@malazan6004]

Quantum thinks it doesn't but he's a soy boy

[@fredmertz3837]

@@alambe7275 Sony motion on the A90J sucks big time

[@fredmertz3837]

@@malazan6004 Quantum is right and little Vincente is wrong. Vincente is bought and paid for my Sony and LG.

[@ClassicGOD]

This is what I was afraid of when everyone was prizing the color saturation on the QD-OLED. I knew Samsung loves to oversaturate, I never seen a Samsung screen that was not oversaturated out of the box but usually you can tune it down. But now they are cheating in testing, wtf. Hopefully well see better utilization of QD-OLED technology down the line.

[@blueversace4447]

He put on a scene where most of it was sub-150 nits. Not really a test of the enhanced capabilities. He was just showing how Samsung’s software is inaccurate. Wait for his post-calibrated review or the Sony, and you’ll see for yourself what you’re claiming is only hype.

[@Soclean07]

Samsung is always cheating

[@lancewilliams2480]

Yup! I could already tell off the bat on these KZbin comparisons the S95B is over saturated

[@gamingmarcus]

@@blueversace4447 No average consumer calibrates their display. The entire point of filmmaker mode is to get the most accurate picture out of the box.

[@blueversace4447]

@@gamingmarcus And yet on LG filmmaker has dynamic tone mapping turned on, as mentioned by Vincent. Unfortunately, most consumers won’t ever know.

[@MightyMostert]

This is why i follow you for ages now.. thank you for the good information Vincent!

[@MiamiHiFiMan]

Samsung pulled a Volkswagen!!!🤣🤣🤣 Sherlock Holmes has nothing over Vince!!! Awesome job Mr Teoh!!! 🙏🙏🙏

[@napalmhardcore]

Your diligence is much appreciated. On a slight tangent, I'm wondering what Panasonic's plans are for the coming years in terms of panel selection. It would be really interesting to see what they can achieve with QD-OLED given their reputation for picture accuracy and innovation when it comes to addressing technical issues.

[@hugooliveira7167]

Vincent is, as always, the best and most trusted reviewer!! Differentiated and quality work!!

[@LEMON48]

Amen 👍

[@malazan6004]

Imagine trusting quantum the soy boy

[@Mikacool]

Nah. Quantum TV is. 😄

[@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard]

@@Mikacool Oh the bigot? Yeah, no thanks. Rather not support a bigot.

[@Mikacool]

@@Derek_The_Magnificent_Bastard I was taking the piss. Lol

[@NPSF3000]

Just cancelled my S95B order. Will wait for more reviews, esp. on the G2 and A95K.

[@rahb2096]

Lol

[@Keivz]

What did you end up getting?

[@NPSF3000]

@@Keivz LG G3, great TV.

[@DaPunkNdFunk]

Great job Vincent! We are tired of tv manifacturers boosting brightness and colour saturation to make their tv seem more appealing, you did us consumers a great service!

[@Jeppelelle]

I'm getting flashbacks to the LCD vs Plasma "war", when LED-LCD:s came to the market and hit the store they had simply oversaturated EVERYTHING, making all colors "pop" & being overly bright, to "laymans" or people who simply aren't interested in color accuracy; in the stores those TV:s would be regarded as "better" than the "dull" colors of properly calibrated plasmas since they where going for accuracy rather than "wow" factor. So plasma lost the "war" because a bunch of people preferred sitting with TV:s watching football on neon-luminescence-grass........... (and yes, there where other reasons plasmas lost to even though they where superior!)

[@theandroidguide8848]

absolutely whats happening here again.

[@matcam89]

My Samsung PN50C7000 plasma still going strong, love plasma

[@camryhsalem5139]

I'm a big fan of plasma , for so many years i wonder why they disappeared would you please tell me what are the other reasons

[@ismiismael]

@@camryhsalem5139 power consommation . no 4k ( pixel to big)

[@FuIIDiveVR]

Plasma died because the technology was too expensive to evolve and continue. If you ever seen a real plasma from Pioneer, it will even destroy oled in sdr easily.

[@jonhezequiel]

This is why I love this channel, always reviewing tv’s with the philosophy of chasing or comparing to the reference creators intent, I certainly want a TV that approaches more for what the creator wanted you to experience from a film. Thank you Vincent.

[@marktan2932]

Amazing work, Vincent. We absolutely need your content, hoping to see your coverage only improve from here and remain reliable as always

[@auzzieworker5183]

Great video Vincent. Between yourself and the other reviewers (I watch them all) us consumers have a good chance to find out what's going on.

[@BigPhi84]

This type of content is why I’m subscribed to HDTVTest. Thank you for this hard-hitting journalism, Vincent. I know it’s not an easy topic to discuss, especially with the toxic fanboys and recent S95B Converts… but I am glad that someone is willing to don the flame-suit and spread the truth, no matter how poorly received it might be. 非常感谢您。👍🏽👍🏽

[@princeboateng5002]

Converts? Are you in a cult tf😂

[@Mopantsu]

I do so hope Classy Tech and FOMO see this video.

[@jackdubs25]

Nah the dickriding is insane

[@XxXDestroyer]

Yup this content is what got them to fix it, now it's one of the best tvs on the market.

[@elgriego74]

Vincent, this video is precious! Any negative thoughts I have ever made for your motives, are dissolved! Thank you for bringing forward the whole truth no matter what!

[@madspedersen5161]

First time in 15 years I have been tempted by a Samsung TV. But not after this video :) Thank you for your always informative, engaging and dry wit videos :)

[@edwinvaniersel]

Same here haha wanted to buy it but this completely changed my mind.

[@tenj00]

Utmost respect to you and your mission to bring us accurate reviews and colors alike. Thanks Vincent.

[@C_G33]

QUANTUM TV is big mad.

[@MusaonYT]

The Sony A95K is where it’s at!

[@SnowBob302]

This is straight up dieselgate. So blatantly dishonest to be tracking accurately on test patterns. This was a deliberate design decision in the company. I had the same thought about Filmmaker mode. You can’t even say that a stricter certification would’ve caught it before this since they adjusted their PQ to the standard test patterns. If there is a verification test for Filmmaker mode then they would’ve just made a PQ to pass that test. Anyway, I hope this is at least a reminder how important it is to have independent journalism. Thanks again Vincent as always and it was very proper of you to make the distinction between Samsung Display and Visual. What a disappointment it turned out to be though. I hope discovering this issue gets you the recognition you deserve.

[@BSSchumacher]

I was about to make a comparison to the emission test cycle detection on various cars as well but you beat me on that. That‘s our chance to define the next #gate :D

[@javierreyes-qv5cb]

"Like" to every single letter! Top comment material. 👌

[@jaefrmbk2k]

I can hardly believe other KZbin content creators are trying to disparage you for spitting pure Facts. almost unbelievable but then again, you're the best so, hi haterzz... 👋🏾

[@marcuscole8796]

Yeah, that's insane ... he gets attacked for being on OUR side ... and not on manufacturers side. These marketing and hype parroting sheeps are just pitiful.

[@maiaticog]

Samsung is trying to satisfy game players, but for us who are movie enthusiasts it's important to have a professional panel like Panasonic, Sony or LG, not to get a traffic light.

[@Soclean07]

Agreed

[@nataflet]

These are not professional panels, these are for consumer market.

[@maiaticog]

@@nataflet yes but at least Panasonic colours are a serious matter. This television from Samsung is too much over saturated.

[@theanimerapper6351]

@@nataflet professionals use LG and Panasonic oleds as well

[@milanklco]

yes mine A80j calibrated approve 😉🙂 for super cheap Black Friday price I would still pressure it, even if A95K will destroy it a bit only, but I am conservative price point guy. Happy with superb TV 😉

[@johnsherlockholmes2529]

This is the info we need. I am a professional user, I now have another 60" tv off to the side to buy the C1(since I have one normal TV downstairs, one in my room and had one for monitor use)... I couldn't decide between the C1 and the Aorus 48" OLED monitor.... after doing copious research on their SRGB and ARGB color coverage I was dismayed to see a site like Rting said they were both under 100% and significantly different (ARGB around 89% for the Auros vs 75% for the C1....) but other sites said both where well above 100% for ARGB.... I ended up with the C1 for the features and price thinking it's good enough, and am glad I did, but thank god for people like you who go above and beyond, I could have easily gotten the S95B thinking I was getting a superior pro product despite knowing the C1's brightness for a monitor not 6 feet from my face was more than enough for my eyes.... In my mind this is reminiscent of Volkswagen emissions scandal and shows a clear lack of transparency for Samsung who know people like me exist and to sell more units intentionally mislead them, I don't want to start a flame war or tell people to get pitchforks... but this is very misleading, again, to say the least. If every review site was as effective as you I would have gotten an OLED a long time ago, and maybe even know the actual ARGB performance of my monitor(or of the A1 which rtings did not test as a monitor, perhaps I could have saved money since I have a 2080 Ti and don't game, i'm locked at 30Hz to use HDR due to bandwidth...lol)

[@DerekWilsonProgrammer]

I'd like to see the test repeated with the C1, C2, other OLEDs. I wonder if all the other ones have been tested against 9%...

[@johnsherlockholmes2529]

@@DerekWilsonProgrammer it should be added to normal testing for sure... depending on if these companies are simply allowing others to use it unbeknownst or publishing data themselves on it knowing it's misleading are very different issues. Not knowing it's best case very scummy thing to do, worst case fines or even torts.

[@samgipson8735]

I really felt like something was wrong. I’m so glad you pointed this out. Accuracy does matter.

[@darkl3ad3r]

This is why you are one of the few KZbinrs I am subbed to. All the others feel like phony shills compared to you. I can always trust your judgement and assessments to be thorough and unbiased.

[@BewareOblivion]

I knew I had to wait for Vincent to drop his video before making up my mind on the S95B. A true professional 👌🏽

[@Burgergio]

Exact reason I’m waiting for the A95K.

[@bigben9056]

i wait next 1-2 years,then i maby buy onne.im now on lg c8 and its great

[@Soclean07]

👍

[@khobia2]

This is why you are number one Vincent. All these influencers praising the S95B like lovesick saps. You have shown once again why I turn to you for accurate and balanced advice when I want to purchase a tv. Like you, I care about accuracy above all else as well. No doubt some will say you are trolling for LG but let the haters hate. Classy, Tech with KG, even FOMO and Whisperstatus forgetting that Samsung could care less about accuracy. Thanks for offering us consumers perspective. Now to see what Sony does with the new technology. HDTV Test rules.

[@blueisthecolor3463]

Who cares what he thinks. It's what consumers like most. They definitely prefer brighterer, slight more punchy colors. Especially in hdr.

[@blueisthecolor3463]

@@barroxbarrox1857 You do know that only small window will ever reach 1000+ if at all. Most people's complain about hdr is it's too dim compared to SDR. Unless you watch HDR in pitch black, most display including OLED will always be dim for hdr.

[@Moxking]

You are my favorite TV reviewer. This video is testimony of your passion and sincerity and dedication to your work. No BS .. just pure facts. Lot of other reviewers are sell off's and will give any review if paid.

[@ES-qy2ju]

This is a classic Samsung move, I'm not surprised, LG has shown to change over the years, they are no longer that horrible company with horrible image processing and terrible color accuracy, but Samsung seems to have learned nothing.

[@7SlicesOfPizza]

because there's nothing to "learn". Samsung absolutely know about it but they consiously made decision to not go that route. why? we might ask, because what samsung does is what actually sells. there's reason why they sell the most TVs and make most profitable margins as well.

[@Animal_lives_matter]

@@7SlicesOfPizza That doesn't make logical sense to me -- why would having an accurate "Filmmaker Mode" cause sales to reduce? Customers can still have the boosted picture in other modes, everyone wins.

[@absolutium]

@@Animal_lives_matter Because 99% of the people with no calibration tools will prefer the Samsung over whatever TV is next to it with filmmaker mode.

[@giantpizzasunset2534]

@@techandy1747 I take it you didn't watch his video.

[@haloharry97]

I want to injoy my Samsung TV bug my god the os. is horrible

[@mivanp2185]

I was waiting for your video on this . And had a feeling it was artificially boosting areas of the picture to make it look better . You never let us down . So informative I couldnt click fast enough.

[@WaniuszY]

Thank you for creating this content HDTVTest. I finally bought my first OLED C1 (I know, I've been under the rock) and had second thoughts whether I should cancel 77in C1 order and purchase S95B. I hate cheaters, and Samsung is a major cheater. I will pickup my LG C1 order. Thank you for opening my eyes!!!

[@MetroWalt]

This is why I watch & trust your videos. Because you tell us the truth others won’t or don’t know. Greetings from L.A.

[@N0N0111]

He is telling the truth by telling what the scientific measurement is saying. Many other use their eyes* and say the picture looks better haha.

[@jasonsims3486]

Great job Vincent! It's about time someone give a real review of this new technology. Not just assuming it's better because it's brighter with more colors. Thanks for your time and effort to help us who strive for accuracy not just wow factor.

[@marro2483]

It’s better!

[@classicgalactica5879]

@@marro2483 No, it isn't.

[@kingyogesh441]

@@marro2483 it’s 💩 lg will show us how true RGB oled Is actually done.

[@khobia2]

Yep. I mean Vincent brings out the reference monitor and his measurement arsenal. These fricking guys doing side by sides and making sweeping statements I mean you Tech with KG about how dazzled you are. Gimme a freakin break.

[@campersruincod6134]

@@khobia2 legit. No matter what these shills say. The reference monitors are truth. Anything that looks way brighter than reference is certainly not accurate.

[@samandkaito4191]

Samsung has been doing this on all their devices since day 1, not surprised at all. Regardless, awesome content as always, keep it up!

[@b1zzler]

I never liked the look of Samsung displays, but I didn't know that they were defeating the ability to perform a proper calibration in firmware

[@MrStrictlyOLED]

@@b1zzler wow same here shame on Samsung

[@ZachFoxPhotography]

I like the sound effect of the door opening at 10:11 😁 Excellent work as always. Keep the facts coming!

[@sebastianm3505]

Yes I agree 100%, numbers are extremly important. And making sure that ppl who watch your channel do know facts is what makes you 1 of the very few top content creators on yt if not the top one when it comes to screens. More over I love the fact you acknowledge that what is better to the eye may be more important and better to each individual than colour accuracy by numbers. Overall putting those 2 things together side by side and not trying to force any1 to follow either numbers or whats greater for the eye is what makes you unique in a special very good way. Please keep great work and I am sure your channel will never stop growing. Thank you Vincent 😊❤️

[@rbelson356]

At the end of the day, seeing it on a wall at a store next to very bright LED's, people are going to be more impressed by the S95B than other OLED's. That's the hard truth. Samsung has always gone for "poppier" colors on their LED's and AMOLED's, and there are no news here.

[@generischgesichtslosgeneri3781]

Nah. In Shopmode every TV Pops like hell.

[@nataflet]

So it's wrong to be more impressed by something.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

@@nataflet Yes we should always question our eyes and say wait a minute is this rEfErEnCe lol

[@BigMac5]

That’s what vivid mode is for not filmmaker mode.

[@theanimerapper6351]

@@ArtVandelayOfficial you should question your eyes because you like unrealistic over saturation

[@satsun]

I mostly care about gaming, I had seen another reviewer play a game on the S95B, albeit through KZbin, and I thought the S95B looked a bit unnaturally bright in the game in areas that should have been darker, so I think you're on to something. I'm very interested in seeing what Sony can do with the QD-OLED panel since it sounds like they're prone to target a more accurate image.

[@ArtVandelayOfficial]

The Sony will have worse input lag, I'm assuming over 18ms ...not satisfactory for PvP gaming

[@StrangerHappened]

Sadly, Samsung has a history of fraud in tests.

[@nejihiashi]

Camera can't keep up with high brightness that's why it looks unnatural, but in reality it's bright and crisp, also Sony processing is bad for gaming slower motion and response time

[@exscape]

I mean, he has the measurements to prove it, so of course he's "on to something".

[@GAmbrose]

Exactly. Imagine playing Elden Ring and all the cave dungeons are bright...that takes the atmosphere away. And yeah, we can use the in-game brightness settings or TV brightness settings to do that already, but it wasn't the intention to be able to see without a lamp or torch. (Apply this to any game where dark areas are important)

[@michaeldasilva8834]

Vincent, thank you for the very detailed and comprehensive analysis. Standards and the filmmakers artistic intent definitely matter.

[@MINUANOGAMING]

This seems really similar to the "Vivid" option in most Samsung AMOLED displays. It can look really good if you've never seen an accurate image before, the colors really pop. Once you see a comparison however, you notice that the colors and brightness are so boosted it just looks wrong and you can't unsee it. For their phones you at least have an option to disable this vivid mode, hope they add a similar feature to their TVs.

[@rahb2096]

Wasn't aware there is an accurate hdr 😂 you're literally making shit up like Vincent when it comes to accuracy in hdr

[@MINUANOGAMING]

@@rahb2096 You can literally go to your display options if you own a samsung phone. Switch off of vivid mode and see how much difference it makes. It's night and day. Vivid mode on is very similar to how the colors look in this footage.

[@blueisthecolor3463]

@@MINUANOGAMING Most phones have it for vivid mode. Realistic colors are bland. That's why general public don't like it.

[@Uruz7Laevatein]

LOL Unless you are using a MicroLED display for a DV Multilaser Projector, you ain't getting "accurate" HDR lol. You're watching a 4:2:0 10-12-bit video 10000 nit video on a display that can't even come close to reproducing the specs (hence DTM and special processors in high end tvs exist for a reason).

[@DeToxCommunity]

@@rahb2096 HDR can be fairly accurate within a pretty large window still, and it's within the most important window for our eyes. The idea that the pursuit of accuracy should be abandoned because you can't reach 100% accuracy for the standard (which is what you're implying) is...stupid. Might as well invert the colors since it's inaccurate either way, right?

[@Norddin]

You know you just proved wrong so many ” so called professional tv reviewers” who got caught up with hype and bashed LG tv’s to be miserable. They didn’t even compare it with the appropriate flagship model G2 but instead C1 and C2. You are genuinely the only real professional here who don’t let the hype to cloud your vision. Reviewer like Keep it classy and his friends are just bunch of amateurs compared to you. I don’t know how they can save their face after this. Show mercy and pass the flame proof vest to them, trust me you don’t need it.

[@wayneiceman]

Incredible work Vincent. Waited long to see this

[@titntin5178]

... this is exactly why we watch you Vince, you find out what's really going on. Hiding what they are doing here is pretty awful, they are deliberately making an inaccurate screen test accurately and this very anti consumer. People can watch their TV as they wish of course (I've always argued this), but they should start with accurate and then adjust what they want. If Samsung had added this adjustment as a switchable 'pop filter' then it would be fine, but this 'cheating' of the system represents a basic dishonesty for which they should pay dearly. Certainly I will never buy a Samsung product again, who can trust them when they are so underhanded and basically dishonest? Vince, you represent consumers rights to know what they are buying and your videos are invaluable as a result

[@Grawbad]

They fixed this soon after this was known.

[@Savitarax]

@@Grawbad only after they got caught. It wasn't a fix like a technical bug. Nobody programs something with 1% 5% and 10% window sizes exactly and then just turns everything off the charts.

[@Vlican]

Vincent is the only youtuber i trust when it comes to HDTVs

[@CaBdosdos]

This solidifies it because hes the only one who took the time to stop getting excited and be objective in his approach and principles.

[@UserInterface00]

Quantum TV in shambles. You can bet he’s going to try to make a reply comment or video disregarding Vincent’s findings. Vincent is the best in the AV tech/reviewing business.

[@delgrady10]

That idiot quantum has a lot more than tvs on his plate at the minute lol tvs are the least of his troubles at the minute

[@adamek9750]

Its not just him though. Pretty much all the av KZbinrs love this display

[@theplaystationgamer100]

He will, he’s not a fan of Mr Teoh! 😆

[@Soclean07]

This a guy don't really know what is talking about

[@UserInterface00]

@@adamek9750 oh for sure, but QTV has that bad rep for always trashing HDTVTest. Everyone got bamboozled except for Vincent. That’s why I proclaim him the best. EDIT: Quantum turned off comments on all of his S95B videos. I wonder why 🤔

[@-germancarnivore-]

Well done Vincent, I always wait for your review before buying a TV. Let‘s hope Sony does a better job in presenting a color accurate reproduction with their a95k

[@JL-ik2vc]

It's almost a given the Sony A95K will do a better job with the EOTF curve and the color accuracy in its most accurate picture modes. I'd be very surprised if Sony inherent the same flaw which hopefully it shouldn't because the fault isn't with the panel technology.

[@Soclean07]

A95K will be alot more accurate than this garbage so called S95B

[@peterzeppelin2804]

@@JL-ik2vc Normal people dont give a Fuck about a EOTF curve ... just enjoy the TV

[@hugooliveira7167]

Me too!!

[@jpnn80]

@@JL-ik2vc Mostly given the fact that Sony supports Dolby Vision which final goal is to respect the original picture

[@rizulgrover5781]

At least some person out there is doing full research and putting real efforts into TV reviewing. Hats off to you delivering such a detailed video.

[@1stWorldProblemsSolved]

This is exactly why we do measurements and test. Good Job!!!! It's very clear that Firmware plays a huge part of any panel design and implementation.

[@jasonrathbone3544]

So basically Sony qd oled gonna be what Samsung display intended qd oled to be . And odds are sony will win tv of year

[@GrandSil90]

Yeah pretty much.

[@jasonrathbone3544]

@Bzake I agree but Samsung sound like they messed up there setting with q d oled I believe bout 2.700 for sony one 55 inch

[@danielkudo4800]

Sony is the king of premium tv, they outsold Samsung on premium segment, so basically Sony OLED sells more than their counterpart including Samsung and LG

[@malazan6004]

QD OLED wasn't as exciting as I had hoped

[@princeboateng5002]

@@malazan6004 it is tho

[@cdragon88]

Watching this on my Samsung 65" S95B LOL. Take your time Vincent, waiting for your settings and expert advice on how to maximize this TV. To my eyes, it does look over-saturated/brightened but I can put up with it. Still a great TV but I do wish Samsung will patch Filmmaker mode for accuracy. On the other modes, leave it "Samsung optimized". We will see.

[@OniMirage]

This exactly. Get the proper calibration or pay to get it done. All else is fine if it tracks that close without calibration. Sony looks a certain way as does LG and so does samsung, always been that way.

[@nicw1065]

I always find Samsung too artificial, saturated, hurting eyes and thought their software is over doing things. Now you have confirmed it. Thank you for your hard work.

[@robin2thek]

This is why you are the best reviewer of screens. No bs just great videos!

[@nobodysunderdog]

Great work Vincent. As always. Well, I was all set to pull the trigger on a Sony A80J, and now...

[@apocalypse369]

This is why I only trust Vince for anything tv related, accurate and thorough information not click bait like other channels.

[@jackleonard2088]

Fascinating Vince. We count on your passion for accuracy to guide us thru the wilds of tv performance and expectations. Keep the great content coming (ding).

[@Anton12310]

Best Test from S95B outthere... like always. Thank you Vincent!!

[@TheMallow81]

thank you. I always appreciate your detailed breakdowns. I was almost sold on the S95B. Now I gotta wait to see if the A95K fixes this problem or I'll be getting the C2 in Nov.

[@Aragorn62]

Haha I knew it! Overly saturated just to try be brighter than everyone else at the expence of losing accuracy. Glad I went with the Sony A90J 83"

[@rahb2096]

Man what a waste of money

[@Jordanfiend361]

It’s sad man because that is a great tv and so many hypebeast we’re bashing it and talking crap about a90j owners. Funny how karma works

[@LEMON48]

@@rahb2096 waste of yoy

[@rahb2096]

@@LEMON48 enjoy burning money man

[@Lawrence818]

Wow Drop the Mic on the KZbin community of panel reviews! You definitely are the best man out of all the others, this is one of your best reviews yet.

[@user-AdamSmith]

Haha, even Samsung wanted to get in on Dieselgate. "But we don't make cars". "We'll make our our gate".

[@bigcdub]

Yo, had my S95B for almost a week now, and I must say, I love the picture on it, but not as much as everyone was pretending the hype to be... Maybe all the reviewers hyped it so much, I was expecting my jaw to be on the ground, but instead, I was only mildly impressed. I also had a A90J, which I sold, and I have a C1, and A80J, calibrated to my liking, and so far, the S95B definitely has brighter highlights, but it definitely isn't mind blowing, just a nice upgrade so far, and I've been rewatching all my 4K Blu-ray content on it, but we'll see what happens once I dig deep into calibrations...

[@LJ-uy9ru]

So you have had all the top tvs and the s95b looks better. What more did you expect other than the TV smashing all the other tvs out on the market? You're saying it's number 1 but I'm not completely satisfied with number 1. Lol

[@bilvah2914]

My wallet is very to happy after seeing your comment so thank you 😂. I was initially sceptical of the QD OLED hype but seeing so much reviewers hype it up in such a short amount of time , I started internalising the hype… which isn’t something I can exactly afford lol

[@reviewforthetube6485]

A nice upgrade is all we should expect and yes it's an upgrade.

[@bigcdub]

@@LJ-uy9ru 🤔Nope, didn’t say anything about the S95B actually looking better, I said it definitely had brighter highlights, and I was only mildly impressed… Also, the out of the box color is off, and it definitely isn’t smashing my other calibrated sets at all🤣. If all you want is brighter highlights, get the S95B now… Other than that, we’ll see what happens after calibration…

[@bigcdub]

@@reviewforthetube6485 True, in highlights only, so far… Let me dig off into it, then I’ll get back to you after calibration…

[@supremetaaanxz2241]

This is why Vincent Teoh is the 🐐… Samsung doing Samsung things

[@coach.jaytee]

Been waiting for this review!

[@doifeellucky]

This brings back memories of plasma vs lcd comparisons by typically clueless shop sales people. ‘Look how much better this one is’ purely based on lcd brightness.

[@BasicallyUseless_]

Waiting for the inevitable Quantum TV response 😅 Make sure he doesn't call your mother. If you know, you know.

[@djm24able]

😂

[@BasicallyUseless_]

@LGBQTV The act man's mom apparently.

[@stefanschuchardt5734]

Vincent, you are just the best in the industry! Keep up the good work!

[@mariogirod6195]

this reminds me of the audio domain with some headphones boost the base and then people say it all the sounds better where is in reality it’s just distorted.

[@DavidBrown-eo3hw]

Great video. Are you going to do a comparison of a calibrated S95b and a calibrated Lg oled? I would really like to see if there are actually any differences between the two. Thanks.

[@foxtrap614tango8]

Was waiting for your analysis just for the reasons you mentioned in the video. Accurate, quantitative measurements matter. But you went further and investigated in accuracy until you identified the real issue. Hat off Vincent. You are a true television analyst.

[@theblitz1687]

I dont get companies. People who want crazy nice eye candy vibrant images will just use default mode. So why make FILMMAKER mode oversaturated and brighter mess too when its supposed to be the ACCURATE one? Why lie to customers? But i suppose i know why. They want their images to look better than competition in every possible setting wheter its accurate or not. No respect for the customer

[@hrod9393]

In a way, you're right. But speaking for myself, I've always adjusted saturation, brightness etc to beyond "film maker intent". I've always felt normal was boring and dull. I think you're still right, fim maker mode should have a standard, even if I may not be someone who uses it.

[@malazan6004]

There is going to be a ton of buyer's remorse going around after this video for those enthusiasts out there.

[@MrTomaat23]

Nope. And if there is, people don't understand what this video means. Most people buy this TV on the premise that it looks great. Not because it gives the most accurate picture. I'd still buy this TV over an WOLED if i had the money that is :D

[@malazan6004]

@@MrTomaat23 I personally wouldn't buy a first generation QDOLED but that's just me. I should have said in my message "buyers remorse for those purchasing for an accurate image". There is still tons of people out there who are enthusiasts and they were fooled by Samsung.

[@CaBdosdos]

They might not have remorse but they'll have to be honest with themselves that they like visual junk food.

[@marcuscole8796]

That's only for the video enthusiasts I'm afraid ... there are tons of people out there loving to be victims of the "Loudness War" of audio equipment ... and as well of Samsung's "Visual Loudness War" with overbrightened and oversaturated pictures. Many people love their sound and pictures being "more realistic" than reality actually is.

[@rossharper1983]

And this is why I'm subscribed to you. Awesome content.

[@MrStrictlyOLED]

This is by far the best video about Samsung 95B at the moment

[@SeanLumly]

It would have been SO easy for Samsung to fix this. Just bury 'film' mode under 3 menus and present with a warning about muted colours, making it very unlikely for casual viewers to find, but satisfying those that value accuracy. There is zero need to mislead. Zero.

[@Lasse3]

They just fixed it. Kudos to team Samsung, for a Swift Firmware update, for a solid accurate filmmaker mode!

[@shadow6543]

It’s for directors intent. It’s not necessarily what most people want but want the creator intended to create

[@e21big]

​@@shadow6543 It also doesn't mean that it's good. If standard mattered, we wouldn't have something like Cyberpunk HDR, Mandalorean HDR or Star War remaster. Creative intent - was often a piece of crap (or didn't take into account the spec of TV available in the market.) But it's fair to say that if it's a Filmmaker mode then it should be a Filmmaker mode, they can create Filmmaker+ or something if they want their own twist of the creative intent.

[@forrest225]

@@Lasse3 sorry but no kudos from me. This was 100% intentional cheating.

[@Lasse3]

@@forrest225 Samsung has not once released a TV that tracked EOTF, has never happened. Right now with the S95B as per the latest firmware release, is a first. Where were ignorant people like yourself, screaming and yelling about cheating for the past 15 years?

[@hanswurst6742]

QuantumTV is starting a hate war with vincent now. This man has no remorse

[@rahb2096]

I don't like the guy but he's got a point

[@CaBdosdos]

Watch out he will call Vincent's mom and cry. 🤣

[@rahb2096]

@@CaBdosdos idk who's worse man quantum lovers or people with 2 inches of Vincent down their throat

[@ZodsSnappedNeck]

QuantumTV is a loser

[@Blasko86]

This is nothing new. He's been slandering Vincent and Rtings for years lol

[@stevetynant6666]

Vincent, you are a TV display God amongst men.

[@nathanddrews]

This is not the first time Samsung (or any other manufacturer) has optimized their firmware to win benchmarks at the cost of real-world performance.

[@stevekim847]

No doubt you are the most trusted reviewer in various social communities. I had same question as everything was too bright and redish on QD OLED and now you gave me the answer. It was a great idea to put reference monitor between two technologies and I bet Christopher Nolan must be unhappy when his Batman in "The dark night" looks this bright in the night.

[@racineurr.8924]

He's not a reviewer, he's a scientist of video and image technology. After watching such a video, would you buy a Samsung TV? Probably yes cause everyone on this planet loves vivid colors. Ask Samsung, the sheer number of its they sell is the answer.

[@KopfdesRiesen]

@@racineurr.8924 Does good sales really equal good quality tho?

[@Marco07081975]

You can always lower brightness if necessary but can't raise brightness if you need more then the display is capable of...