I'm A Little Disappointed By The KLX300SM... (Beginner Supermoto)

[@spitescorner]

What do you guys think? Is the KLX300SM worth it, or should the aspiring sumo squid just get a DRZ400SM?

[@marcusvalentin5485]

They should release a KTM 390 SMC 🤞

[@2WheelPursuit]

@@marcusvalentin5485 Yeah for real.

[@linksgarage1985]

DRZ400SM!!!!!!!!!! All day baby!

[@Ahazmandeus]

Hey this was my bike that I traded in at AF1 for a Tuareg 660. The KLX was a 3rd bike for me that I would putter around town on the weekend, run errands on, etc. I was never looking for high horse power when I bought it. As for the upgrades the stock bar was garbage, the skid plate was really to limit the amount dirt to clean of the engine, the stock seat was like a gummy bear that was left in the sun, and as for the exhaust the stock one was already rusting badly at 8 months. That is really was kind of drove me to trade this in was that the cheapness of the components and the quality of the materials. This was my first bike from Kawasaki and I assume it will be my last. Also its super weird to see your previous bike and your mods reviewed on KZbin...

[@greenmoto]

If you're after power, no.. if you want a bike that falls in the sumo class and will be reliable, yes.

[@Opius321]

Really glad to see your channel blow up after you and Yammie parted ways. ride safe Spite!

[@brycetheshredder]

Why did they split up? I seemed to miss that

[@Opius321]

@@brycetheshredder Yammie wanted to go another direction with his channel, thats all i really know.

[@Redrider2k2]

As a 10 year owner of a KLX250S, I'd say I agree with your review. The dual sport crowd has been screaming for an affordable, reliable Japanese dual sport in the 400-500cc range. Honda missed the mark with the CRF and the DRZ is still a 99 bike with a 23 pricetag. Myself and many people like me have been lined up waiting to throw money at the first of the big 4 to get it right. Kawi could do nothing more than punch that 300 out to a 450 and my 250 would go for sale tomorrow.

[@JWStreeter]

Whenever people ask what CC my klx300sm is they're a bit surprised it's only 300CC. I always tell them, if it was 450-600CC it would be a *perfect* bike.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

Why do you goddamn people think you need so much power.? Maybe you have a fat as or something. This bike has all the power anyone should ever need. Hear all this crap about faster speeds. Wait until you suddenly lose all of the air out of your rear tire at speed like I did. I will never ride as carefree again. Gives you a new perspective on going fast.

[@Redrider2k2]

@@scrambler69-xk3kv These bikes are uncomfortably overworked at highway speeds. Using pavement to connect trails or for light adventure riding becomes painful in a hurry. I'm not sure what flat tires have to do with it but I've had a valve stem snap off the rear tire of my ZX-10R. Instant flat tire at 300km/h. It nearly gave me a heart attack but it didn't make me want a smaller bike either.

[@yammi.raven.r6891]

I actually just bought one of these. I’ve owned a R3, Z900, still own my 2020 R6 and now one of these guys and honestly, this is the most fun I’ve had on a bike and I’m a whopping 270lbs dude at 6’2. I personally think a rear sprocket change and a fuel tuner will give this enough kick to make it perfect for its size. It’s dummy comfortable around town, I live in Dubuque Iowa and it’s perfect for around town and the country roads. I’ve been practicing wheelies on it mainly in first gear and it’s definitely a great place to start and learn. Side note I will say I really miss the Z900. This bike gives me baby vibes of that bike and I plan to get another. I’m glad you finally did a vid on this man keep it going!

[@covertsnake]

I am the same size as you are. What is the top speed you can achieve? My commute includes the Houston ship channel bridge and I'm not sure if it would be safe in that situation.

[@yammi.raven.r6891]

@@covertsnake I've gotten like 90mph. But it was struggling so bad. It's terrible on the highway lol, I've since traded it in and got a deal on my new 24 z900

[@yammi.raven.r6891]

@@covertsnake if you're not doing highway and mainly under 65mph then it's lovely

[@swaggaming420]

@@covertsnake if you don't speed then yes it's perfectly fine for the highway, mfs will take groms on the highway

[@williammcknight2159]

Everyone needs to understand that this is an entry-level bike. If you want more power, get a bike with more power! My daughter is 13 and has been riding for about 2 years. This bike would be ideal because we can go 2 up to a parking lot or trail and she can practice. As the bike is plated, when she gets her license she will have a bike for herself. Safe riding!

[@alphadelta7060]

You need to understand it’s just slow. And yes if you want a bike with more power buy a bike with more power. I’m glad you figured that out and helped so many people.

[@a7x266]

problem is there isnt a good middle ground supermoto from factory. you either get a cheap beginner bike or spend 12k and get a husky/KTM supermoto. im not a fan of the drz not being fuel injected so not really a option.

[@ganuvien]

​@@a7x266Exactly why I didn't buy a KTM690. It's so damn expensive, there's also the Honda CRF450L but it's also expensive and then you need to convert it to sumo wheels/tires. Crazy how a naked streetbike is cheaper.

[@a7x266]

@@ganuvien pretty much, i sold my naked bike last year and about a month ago i got the itch for a supermoto but the options just werent great, ended up just getting another naked bike.

[@ganuvien]

@@a7x266 I'd love to see Yamaha turn the Tenere 700 into a Supermoto even though it's heavier than a true sumo. But that'll never happen.

[@Simon-gf5vh]

I don't understand why KTM hasn't made a 390 supermoto yet

[@mannyechaluce3814]

there is no market for it

[@spitescorner]

If they did, it'd kill the DRZ overnight

[@nephilymbass1]

They already have an rc390, duke390, and adventure 390. And also have a 350 dual sport that cost over $10k so they probably figure if you can afford the dual sport you can also afford a set of 17s.

[@gageblack8059]

Because the 350 already exists and is still better than a drz lmaooo

[@megamoto3513]

Just get the 450

[@ctrlaltowned5223]

The only thing this intro missed was you crushing a Monster can on your head, channeling your inner Kyle energy.

[@RollinwithRoland]

Yee, this comment is On The Head.

[@names9530]

Sam Pilgrim original move

[@shadetreesurgeon]

Used to have a KLX250 and it was my fav wheelie bike because you could just dump the clutch from Bouncing off the rev limiter and it would do super safe wheelies that had almost zero chance of looping. Miss that bike!

[@ganzhomanh8137]

KLX300sm owner here. There's a lot you can do to coax more out of this bike and still be less than a DRZ400sm. Real world pricing here in SoCal is $9K+ out the door for the DR. And it needs to be modded a bit. Got mine used/modded with Dyno Jet tuner, Yosh, 2ndary throttle for $6k and then modded for trail/offroading, KDX snorkel, tires, bark busters, risers, pro tapers, skid plate, rear rack, lithium battery, 13th front sprocket and took all the smog junk off. With Yosh, lithium battery and smog junk I took off close to 15lbs. I look at mine as a "super" TW200 with better suspension, more grunt and more ground clearance. Great video.

[@timlovejoy7616]

I've had one of these for about one month. Put about 800 miles on it so far and I'm having a lot of fun with it. I bought it to take on camping trips because of ease in loading into truck. I usually ride a FJR and every time I get on the KLX I can't help but smile. It feels so light, and easy to move. I ride it every chance I get and have only ridden the FJR once since buying it, and that was because my grandson wanted to ride the FJR. I'm 64, 6-2, 190 and have no issues with the seat. I have ridden the bike two hours without stopping and had no problems with seat or bars. It does not have a lot of power, but does okay if you keep the rpm's up, and I Love going to the gas station with this bike. If I would change something it would be to add a gear indicator.

[@Bikes_N_Adventure]

You can absolutely add a gear indicator on the Kawis!

[@jdmsurfer]

As a harley brother and r1 owner, I bought one. It was some of the most fun I had on a small bike. Exhaust, snorkel, tune and sprocket made it a true blast. I'm 5 11 and 220 and it's a fun bike.

[@BluuSkyz]

For a smaller or average sized person this bike would be an absolute blast around town. I had a DRZ400sm for years and if I jump in sumo again I'd probably jump on one of these.

[@Illness.og.]

Wheelie beast

[@papasmurf159]

Or a 690/701, pulls the weight better plus more rip.

[@machupikachu1085]

no you wouldn't. You'd find it gutless.

[@BluuSkyz]

@@machupikachu1085 I keep reading that.. I'd definitely have to at least try one now to see.

[@machupikachu1085]

@@BluuSkyz sadly, a KLX with a pipe, snorkel and Eflash won't even make the HP and torque numbers of a stock Dr.Z. And not many people keep them stock. The only people this bike will excite are people who haven't tried the Dr.Z and don't know any better.

[@greenmoto]

I think you nailed it pretty well with this one(2+year KLXsm owner).. I do think Kawi could have sold a lot more of them if they included the drywall and 4 pack of Monsters. 🤘

[@RamboRichardson]

I got one of the first KLX300s and I only weigh 130LBS, I can confirm it whips when you weight 100+ less 🤙 I have hit 100 on flat land and can cruise at 80, a new sprocket does yet though. Thanks for the confirmation on the GasGas 700, I have been thinking about it as a 2nd.

[@dasko3]

Spot on sir! An excellent comprehensive but fair take on the KLX300SM.

[@littleDoughie]

One thing ill say to look out for, the front break hydraulic line is blocked in your current set up you can see it bending when you break hard. I believe its meant to travel up and down along that plastic track/retainer on the left side of the bike. Its currently blocked by the hand guard mount. Its an easy fix, on my bike i just removed the retainer and jerry rigged a new one in so the hydraulic line feeds closer to the center console. As always love the video Spite!

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

Make that brake. they stop you break means something is broken. See this all the time. Damn people.

[@SupSecSquirrel]

I love you spite and this video was amazing. I own a KLX300 myself and by the footage you have in this edit it made it seem like you were riding it like a big piston single such as your KLR650 and your old KTM690. I think most of the juice that you were looking for was at the top end if the revs. I know singles dont really go past 10K rpm but the KLX300 comes alive at 8K due to the nature of smaller pistons having less mass.

[@autumnday8422]

He mentions no torque but I know from my wr250 it's all at the top.

[@chrislollich6064]

My XR is pumped 675 + trick stuff only fifty horse but has more bottom End , and by the time at 7k I'm already gone. And I do that 300 with A pumped moter will blow big bikes Off to surtain point. Besides who wants to pay KTM prices when they Don't last that long. Thanks from NOR-CAL.

[@m3lvn415]

These small displacement bikes always make riders smile and somehow reminds you of what motorcyling is about.

[@bubbazanetti6657]

Not sure if that particular KLX you’re riding has any air flow mods but I modded my KLX with a wider snorkel and installed a K&N air filter. I’m still running the stock exhaust and I find that it is way more responsive with those mods. I agree, it doesn’t have that torque you expect but I find that the torque has picked up just a bit, with those mods. And honestly, as it gets up in the revs, this little thing rips. Regardless, good content on this bike. Keep ‘em coming, Spite!

[@ginorusso9057]

I have a blast riding this bike

[@ginorusso9057]

Don’t let anyone tell you you can’t one hander and scrape and do everything a sm is meant for. But yea if you want to go over 100 or have more torque past 50 then you’d a bigger one

[@FrenchyRider574]

I have a KTM 500 EXC, In my opinion it's the best option because you get 2 bikes in one. Very capable enduro bike, you swap the wheels and you get the best road legal super moto... 110 kg , 50hp can't beat that.

[@MattPerry]

Yep, but is not japanese and it is another kind of bike, with a maintenance of a race bike. The japanese must do these bikes on a 500cc 600cc version, with SM a R version, being R more off road. And easy maintenance. No doubt, you have a very good bike.

[@benmanning4340]

I completely agree with you man! I have a gasgas ec 250 2 stroke that I have converted to supermoto and it's an absolute beast. Supermoto converted enduro competition bikes are no doubt the best you will find and are more reliable than most people like to think - that's why us boys over here in Europe like them so much - plus they're much more suited to our roads than in America. Happy riding :)

[@wipperwil]

Hey Spite. Thanks for posting. Hoping you get to 1M++ subs before 2024 mate.

[@mikef3300]

I looked at the 300’s when I was looking to add a bike to get back in the trails with but wouldn’t have to trailer it there. After doing some research I discovered that the 300’s weighed just as much as the ktm 690 but had half the power. The suspension was also fully adjustable and felt so much better for me being 6ft and 230lbs. I’ll admit that the 690 was more expensive but I believe it was well worth the extra money. It’s been a few years now and I still get a big grin every time I throw a leg over the 690. It’s been very reliable with routine maintenance and has an incredible aftermarket available so it’s easy to make it your own. I don’t believe I’d be as happy if I would’ve chosen a 300. The 690 is great off-road and a fantastic city bike. It has the power to jump on the highway for a few exits but I wouldn’t consider it a highway cruiser. To me it’s more of a backroads explorer that really comes alive when the tarmac turns to dirt. It reminds me of my 1993 KDX250 that I had and makes me feel 10 years younger. What more can you ask from a motorcycle?

[@NightSkywalker69]

You probably got sucked into the technology. This bike is just bike.

[@MotorcyclesOffroad]

The torque complaint is the same reason I didn't prefer the Dual sport trim in my comparisons. On dual sports in general I really don't prefer an engine that has to be rev'ed out to achieve "get out of the hole" torque. Good informative video btw.

[@LDDivision]

Seeing that I'm also a big guy (6'5" 265lbs) In still wanting a video about bikes for larger riders. Not everyone wants/needs a giant cruiser.

[@spitescorner]

Working on a video about that!

[@GratefulOverlander]

Get a KLR, it's taller. Just set up the suspension for your weight (which may require an upgrade but that's true on any bike)

[@panthersblow]

Im 6'1 245lbs and I just picked up a 2024 KTM500exc and put a supermoto kit on it. Its the most fun I have ever had on 2 wheels. It will flip me over backwards and pound me into the pavement in 1st and second gear at full throttle, even sitting forward on the seat. Its 220lbs dry, so the bike weighs less than me. Makes it easy to throw around and has enough power to always keep you happy.

[@arnoldtham6827]

Guy named Keng runs a little shop in Chiang Mai that does big bores on KLXs. Has a 402 kit in testing rn

[@thumpertorque_]

I wish this bike was an option when I bought my first bike. I bought a DRZ 400SM in 2018 but now I have upgraded to the best supermoto without a doubt which is the 690 SMCR.

[@OneLastPan]

I'm 5'11" and 225lbs with gear. Not huge but not tiny. Bike seemed a little sluggish but I just did what I did with my KLR250 and dropped a tooth in the front and now I feel comfortable riding in city traffic. Enough pull to get me outta sketchy situations in higher rpms (7000 to 8000) and I only lost about 5mph off my top end. 80ish mph down to 75ish mph. Handles the country roads to work just fine.

[@liquidmetal4050]

As a 2022 KLX300SM owner, I would say you pretty much nailed it with this video. I love everything about the bike except its power output.

[@jeffreyhurst9552]

I had a demo ride on one a month ago and loved it. Of course it helps to be 5’8” and weigh 145.

[@Brap690]

I agree 100% with this review. I did really enjoy my 2800 miles with my klx300sm but it left me wanting a little more. I got a smcr and didn’t touch my klx for a while riding season and had to trade it in on a grom again. It’s a great starter bike but if it had like another 100cc it would be a keeper

[@VinCode17]

[@emmanuelvargas866]

So you you enjoy the grom more then klx300sm? Im getting back into motorcycle after 5 year break and cant decide what to buy. Want the klx300sm but can justify 7500 for a 300 supermoto. Might just get a grom.

[@scrambler69-xk3kv]

Grandson just bought one. His first bike. I have been riding for 48 years now. After riding it my thoughts are the seat is uncomfortable. At least I think so. The shifter is too short. I had a hell of a time getting the toe of my work boot under the shifter. Since most customers for this bike will probably be newbies, I think it needs a fuel gauge rather than just a warning light. A gear indicator would be nice for those new riders as well. But the bike is all he needs right now, and I can tell he really likes it a lot and that is what really matters to me.

[@Motodidakt]

I've thought about going the SM route with my CRF300L for smoother highway manners, but then realistically, I'm not going to want to switch tires every time I go to Hidden Falls or GSL. So if the 300 is just a road only bike, then yeah, "Meh" is the perfect description. For this reason, I need to get my dirtbike up and running, sell the 300L, and pick up a better street oriented bike. The best option (assuming affordability) really is having multiple, specific purpose bikes.

[@2wheelseparationanxietydis271]

The question of this vs naked 300 was great and so was your answer. This bike is a great bike to determine what your next bike will be. For me, it made me realize I want a dual sport since I’ve been hitting trails. It also made me realize I want more power for the street. I can’t afford to switch bikes at the moment but that’s ok because it is truly hard to have more fun than you can on a sumo.

[@chrislollich6064]

I'm sure you can find wheels U can Use for nobbys for your bike , the only deference between supèrmoto And Dual Sport is the wheels, sm are 17" and DSport are 18"rear and 21" in front. Thanks from NOR-CAL.

[@2wheelseparationanxietydis271]

@@chrislollich6064 yes it’s possible BUT the brake rotors are different size and once it’s done I’ve heard that it feels unstable. Something about the ride heights or spring rates aren’t correct once the dual sport wheels go on. No biggie, I’m going to do the cheapest thing: tires! The shinko 700 or kenda 244. I’ve already done single track with the 700 and it’s not great with the 17 up front but it did everything I asked. Thanks norcal brother!

[@chrislollich6064]

@@2wheelseparationanxietydis271 My bike is XR650L I bought super moto so I can have the best of both worlds, thanks for the input, my bike Is real tall and the SM wheels bring it Down a little bit, and the bigger disc, On the front stops smother . Keep on riding, and main thing have Fun doing it. Thanks from NOR-CAL.

[@smashedgyro]

As a DRZ owner, I can appreciate other manufacturers like Kawasaki trying to put pressure on Suzuki (to innovate). It's too bad the KLX is underwhelming but given where most of the motorcycle market is/what most riders "want", anything larger/more modern seems to come with issues (electronics and weight & cost) that go against what makes SMs great in general.

[@datseverywhere140]

Is it equipped with tubeless tires?

[@BillySBC]

Why would you choose the parts availability problems of a Gas-Gas or some other off-brand motorcycle? Build out a DRZ400SM or some other similar name brand product instead.

[@brendonvaldal259]

Thanks Boys!!!!! Shout out to the KX baby wooooi

[@sunlbx]

says "It doesn't have passing power" goint at mid rpm wide open in top gear up a hill.... well are you sure you are in the right gear?

[@BahhJustaLamb]

I had very similar thoughts about this bike. It's disappointing because for people who don't want to deal with carburetors, this is the only affordable, Japanese, indestructibly reliable supermoto on the market. It really ought to have the Ninja 400 engine in it. If this bike costed about the same/slightly more than the Ninja 400, but had 49HP and 30LB/FT it would be the perfect supermoto and the DRZ would stop selling almost entirely.

[@burgersquid]

a bike like this with a ninja 400 motor in it would be amazing. I feel like that could shake up the class structure of my local supermoto club, haha

[@BahhJustaLamb]

@@burgersquid not gonna lie, if they came out with that, I’d sell my ninja 400 and get it 😂

[@matthewshultz8762]

N400 is a ptwin though. KLX400 ptwin would be quite a lot heavier, more like the rumoured KTM490 that's supposed to be coming out soon.

[@BahhJustaLamb]

@@matthewshultz8762 yeah, I could see that being a trade off but I’d rather have a 370LB KLX400Sm with 50HP than whatever this is. Ninja 400 is 375LBS wet and ready to ride with full fairings, so I imagine a similar weight for a KLX with this motor.

[@machupikachu1085]

What's there to deal with in carbs? Most of my bikes have had carbs, and I've NEVER had a problem with one. I don't get the fear...

[@mrcool-ko4od]

I appreciate all the great content dude 🤘🤘🤘

[@spar8334]

just cuz it has a hwy gear doesnt mean you gotta stay in it.. down shift and give it some gas got a rev limit for a reason

[@paulh7798]

During acceleration, one additional horsepower gains as much as a loss of 7 pounds. For a rider 70lbs lighter than you, the bike will accelerate like it has a power curve 10hp higher at all rpms than it would with you on board. That's going to be felt the most at lower rpm when the engine is not making a lot of horsepower. It's a smaller man's bike.

[@mattsloop2736]

Rode a drz400sm at 90+ it was screaming. At 70 it was pretty much revving out more then i was comfortable with. They just aren't made for highways. Backroads and gravel are their home

[@mimi1girl2dempsey3]

Since the motor likes to rev why not try a bigger rear sprocket?

[@colocode6979]

being a 170lb rider. i think it feels great. can change the sprocket up a little bit feels a little more torque. can cut about 4-5lbs of with aftermarket exhaust too.

[@joee8795]

Everyone just wants to beat around the bush with this shit, instead of just giving us what we want! We want a road legal 450 SUMO based off of an MX Frame, from anyone Suzuki, Honda, Kawasaki, KTM etc.. 🙏🏻🤘🏻 Put the price point a couple grand higher than a regular 450 Motocross Bike and they’ll sell like Coffee!!

[@javijuka1987]

Cuál sería la diferencia con una naked 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@kalimera8764]

Small notes: The same bike is very similar that offered 30 or so years ago. They upgraded to upside down forks early in the 90s, then in the 2000s they changed to a different swingarm, brakes, dash and efi (except US market). The 300r was available from almost the start. Converting 250 to 300 with original kawasaki parts was relatively easy (300 had a pumper carb as well). Nothing wrong with the bike itself, just to my eyes even a drz is a "newer" design. (Similar story with klr650).

[@Rettungssocke]

Are there any athena big bore kits available for this bike? Like a 330cc Athena or sth?

[@pandamoto]

Daylied my klx300 1998 for about a year, it was my first bike and it was a great bike but it always left me wanting more. Even to the point where I did a carb, a pipe, a 351 big bore, and a bunch of other mods and it STILL left me wanting more. I finally bought a drzsm and I enjoy it much much more lol

[@nephilymbass1]

I was interested when I first saw these a couple years back. Love dirt bikes and the idea of a supermoto was appealing. But personally I was a bit shocked by the price. I agree with a lot of the points mentioned in this video. Funny thing is for about the same price you can get a kawasaki Z400 that solves a lot of those problems.

[@Maoshung]

I 1000% agree this should have been at minimum a 400cc if not a 500cc. I have owned a DRZ400SM (where is 6th gear!?) and I had a friend with one of these. Loved the feel of the KLX but missed the DRZ TQ and HP. Now I own a Gas Gas 700SM and its an absolute ANIMAL and LOVE IT! Kawasaki needs to change the Engine Size and Suzuki needs a modernized DRZ.

[@3dartstudio007]

When I get to an RV site and hook everything up, I want something like this to pop off the rear carriage and zip to town to hit the nearest store. Riding around the camp area and drive through windows is no fun. It's not so heavy you hurt your spine, not too small to zip down the road street legal. Super interesting there are a lot of choices now. Thanks for the review!

[@slowsteve3497]

Great meeting you in Mojave. Pretty cool you rolled in on a road glide. 😊

[@bobhill3941]

Excellent, I was waiting for a review on one of these!

[@calgreco8607]

Would this make a decent adult size Yamaha TW200? Using lowering links and knobby tires? I see a lot of DRZ 400sm with knobbies but it's too tall and 2400 more expensive.

[@kleinbottled79]

Seems like there are 2 kinds of riders. Those who enjoy tight powerbands that require well timed shifting and those who want torque at low rpm so they can be lazy about shifting.

[@2wheelseparationanxietydis271]

I noticed he’s going uphill at 5k rpm complaining about torque. It’s like bro, you’re 240 lbs on a small thumper, you gotta downshift 😂

[@theandrew999]

A used KLX300 seems like an amazing deal. The KLX looks like so much fun.

[@aperlia6603]

Just started window shopping the honda version, the KLX 230SM and the KLX 300SM. Honestly just want something to shred up some backroads. I rode a honda 100 at the go kart track and it was the most fun I've had on a bike. I'd like to be able to have that experience on the street. As long as it has the power/torque to get me up to an interesting speed to take turns, that's all I care about. Just want to upgrade the suspension and braking if needed. I could care less if it's wheelie happy. I'm sure it can clutch up fine from a stop or first gear roll if I decide i wanna practice wheelies. edit: I'm also a 125 lb rider. So I think it would be fun with how light I am.

[@michaelcovel1720]

I want another video of this bike where it actually gets ridden in the powerband. That's some VERY relaxed riding in the twisties. What's it like leaned over in hairpins at 9000rpm?

[@machupikachu1085]

@sonofthebrownmanbond7315 how is it a weird review? He's riding it just like he rides his Dr.Z sm, and deduced that the Zuke has way more HP and TQ. Which it does. I'd say that's apples to apples reviewing.

[@calgreco8607]

Would this make a better adult Yamaha TW200 with the right parts and tires? I'm 60 with inseam of 30" I have a big Harley but want a lightweight camp bike. Price of this compared to a TW200 is not much difference.

[@mcoop571]

I have a CRF300l (very similar), coming from a TW200. I would say the Tdubs is the best “camp bike” in the world.

[@matthewbrown7044]

I got a KLX230 used with 800 miles on it. Had all the same mods. I ride it to the trails and on the trails, and it's great for picking through the New England woods. I like it a lot, but I take my other bike for trips on the highway

[@Otterplus]

All I hear is, your best supermoto option is still the drz. Get comfy with carbs! Hella aftermarket and you don’t need a new one anyway. Hell, that should be Suzuki’s motto. “Don’t buy new, it’s been the same since 2008”

[@spitescorner]

God damn, that's so true. But I really wanted the KLX to be at least close to the DRZ. It's not sadly

[@Otterplus]

@@spitescorner likewise. I was hoping it would adequate to compliment a touring bike, but a used drz looks to be the ticket

[@Redrider2k2]

Carb tuning on a thumper is a breeze and so much cheaper. I almost prefer it at this point. The only problem I have with the DRZ is the pricetag, even for used. At least in my area, they sell high. It's tough to swallow a 2023 price for a 20+ year old design. I've thought so many times about a 351 big bore kit for my 250. I should just do it and then ride it into the ground.

[@Otterplus]

@@Redrider2k2 the only ones around me going for $5k or less come with wheels resembling a taco or mismatched fork tubes. I’m really starting to understand the CRF/general dirt bike conversions

[@Shenthusiast]

Spite thank you so much for including numbers in KG and NM, love you for that 😂

[@baz69er13]

Ive had my Kawasaki D-Tracker 250 for over ten years now & i still enjoy riding it, its very reliable, cheap to maintain & has a nice seating position, the seat is uncomfortable on long journeys & not that powerful & yes the front brake is powerful, if you look at the klx 250 yourl see how much bigger the disc is, i would of liked the new 300cc to have more power, abs, better headlight & maybe an updated digital dash & i wouldnt of minded paying a bit more for it either....

[@PavelessAdventure]

Cool little bike! Idk why they didn’t make it a drz killer like a high 40s hp

[@dondutch4107]

my 06 KLX250 came with a 21 on front and a 18 on rear, 6th gear would do the same thing bogging down. i installed SM tires 17 front and 17 rear and 6th gear finally got pull. i could then get the bike up to 90-100MPH (i think Speedo was off after tire swap).. what im saying is dropping a tooth in rear gear on that bike will do a lot for the bike

[@Speedytrip]

If they made a fuel injected DR700 with 50-ish hp and a KLX450 with 40-ish hp, those could be among the top selling bikes out there.

[@SirTrizzle]

Planning on getting the 230 dual sport for some trail riding. I’m 180 and 5’9. Hope it’ll keep my happy on the trails for a year or two.

[@machupikachu1085]

Get the 300sm with dirt tires. You'll thank me.

[@ldorman]

I'm 193cm tall and weigh about 94kg. I owned a 2006 Yamaha YBR125 and that managed without any problems +70mph and uphill the slowest I got was 58mph. Also, I had a quick 3 minutes look, and couldn't find any HP figures for this bike. Kawa doesn't put them onto their own website. The Yamaha put out 12hp and the only source I found finally horsepower figures was 3rd party websites listing it with 23hp. I personally lost interest in contemporary Kawasaki's; I did my full license at the bike training school on a brand new Kawa 650 last year and that thing was less exciting than watching the grass grow. The little inline 2 also sounded like my toothbrush, not like a motorbike. They had a couple of different Kawas at the training facility as they were sponsored by a Kawasaki main dealer and you even got a voucher of you bought a bike from that dealer - I never went as I already had my SV1000n at home.

[@morganmorris7603]

I bought a 23 klx300sm to get back into riding. Its a ton of fun on twisty back roads, but with a couple month's i bought a bigger bike. I really wish the klx had just a bit more power.

[@encinoman903]

I definitely want a drz400. I have to break into the sumo scene slowly. I love going fast a little too much.

[@FuzedBox]

I REALLY want a DRZ400, but not for supermoto purposes; I fucking loathe supermoto.

[@encinoman903]

@@FuzedBox I see guys ripping around the city on them all the time. They look fun as hell

[@benmanning4340]

Bro if you love going fast get a 2 stroke supermoto they destroy sports bikes in the twisties :)

[@encinoman903]

@@benmanning4340 I'd love to get a Yamaha wr super moto. But they're basically unicorns, now.

[@machupikachu1085]

@@FuzedBox Have you ridden one? I used to think exactly like you. Now I own one. Cheers!

[@davidhoward8951]

You can do modifications to that bike and it'll run I mean you can change the pipe the airbox and do some mods to it will run down the road on the back wheel

[@phil4986]

Great review. Just not enough power. It would be awesome to see Kawasaki put their twin cylinder 650 on this bike with minimal weight gain. There would be torque for days with that.

[@Reviews-Tidbits]

Did you mod the air box , remove the 2nd butterfly?

[@Visian]

You’re not running that bike hard enough, rev it up, it pulls impressively well for its size.

[@nealsmo4359]

As an owner of a DRZ and has spent time test riding the KLX I agree 100%

[@nicks3456]

I'm pretty locked in on a DRZ400s as my second bike. I live around trails and plan on off-roading a lot. Is there any other bike that goes toe to toe with the DRZ that I should be looking at?

[@Dericmann]

I have the duel sport klx300 with aftermarket exhaust and uncorking it with a fuel commander it really peps up the bike. By far not fast but definitely helps.

[@jasonwahl7681]

I picked up a 2012 KLX 250 dual sport this spring as a garage mate to my 04 ZRX, I'm a fatass at 300lbs and the lil Lex is a riot in my opinion ya just gotta wring it's little neck, it does haul me at 65mph fairly well. I mainly use it to commute (12 miles) and explore back roads in the sticks of central NY. I knew it wasn't going to be a rocket ship, that's what I have the ZRX for, but the KLX is better than I thought it was going to be. FYI all stock except someone removed the snorkel, I did add a bit of preload to the rear spring. Thanks for the content 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻.

[@davidsanders890]

Help I can't find the hood on my bike!?!

[@GoodBariusOfTheNorth]

I've a 22 KLX Sm it was very similar to what I started on and I wanted a A to B gas saver. @4500 miles it still feels amazing my only gripe is the stock tires are meeh, what tires would I prefer mostly road but would do fine on dirt road?

[@machupikachu1085]

I've got the motoz Tractionator GPS on my sumo rims. They are good for both.

[@alexle1935]

I like this so much, but I can't seem to find it anywhere

[@peterbarron6150]

I suspect that bike has an aftermarket shock in it as well. If test ridden one with a 34in inseam and the seat did not seem as low as the one you had.

[@muzzmatrix]

Superb review. We'll done!

[@thumpertorque_]

To answer why get this over a 300cc naked bike, you can basically learn the fundamentals of both a dirt bike and a naked bike with this. You van try practicing jumps, practice body positioning of a dirt bike, go over obstacles/ stairs, put knobbies on it and ride on trails and have enough ground clearance and still ride like a naked bike on the street. It’s a less intimidating dirt/ street bike for a beginner.

[@petrpinkhasov7077]

Thanks for the great review Spite

[@davidhoward8951]

How about changing the sprockets on it maybe you'll get more torque

[@moreclips805]

I dropped a tooth in the front sprocket to give it more punch

[@steviebby]

How bout getting a klx 450 and running road tyres? How would that stack up?

[@kennethcooley3445]

Always say how much you weigh. This is as important as the inseam. Good job on this review mate. I may have just bought this bike because of your review.

[@docsamson2299]

Rode a Honda CRF230M for a year and would've KILLED for another 70cc! I had a lot of fun on it but it... took... forever... to get where I wanted to go...

[@dj2000lbs]

i have a 2018 ktm excf350 stock seat hurt a lot

[@zpbeats3938]

Pumper carb and regearing will make a huge difference. It sure did on my old klx. Really opens the motor up.

[@Shitnugget69]

These are efi so a carb won't do anything haha. I've read that exhaust, air box mod, and an ejk fuel controller make a huge difference tho. All these new bikes are so choked up from the factory.

[@zpbeats3938]

@@Shitnugget69 ah yep airbox mod was a classic mod on the carb klx's - that combined with some sort of fuel controller I'd bet would wake that thing up!

[@Johngottisentme]

I got an ssr150 I actually kind of love it. Want to get a second bike, the klx230sm is on my list , I personally enjoy the light bikes , the light - medium power. I know myself, if I were to get a 400+ I’d be 6 feet under

[@feloniousmonk3049]

maybe putting the stock muffler back on would restore the torque. Ask me about it on my HD Sport Glide... stock pipe makes more torque.

[@YooperDanKulka]

When are you going to put a ski on the front and snow track on the back?????

[@openscrolls]

I rode it hard. The best if you commute inner city..roads sucks..bumps...potholes...trai n tracks to cross...ive done 70 mph in the rain and neber loss grip...tires are a+ for wet..any day riding..you can manhandle it like bmx bike...ive tucked...at hit 91mph on a flat...im 5'6 210lbs.. long distance riding is gonna bite your butt...that lil windscreen does magic!!! Clean focused air...overall.. will not hold resell value..1000 miles..less than 1 yr old..only got 4000 for it...why? I bought a shelby gt350...105k..and a cbr650 had to go so i could make notes...

[@richards6065]

What's the ideal weight for the rider?

[@arch417powersports]

I have to agree on the power. For the money, the power is pretty lacking.

[@Bengy22]

You really need to test ride a Husaberg FS570, Everything ktm except the reliability issues