I'm Building a SECOND FLOOR Addition To My Container Home!

[@davidjernigan8161]

Think about giving yourself an easy way to get large things like mattresses and furniture up to the second floor. Perhaps not using a spiral staircase on the outside.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Great point. And yes I've thought about this. We'll see what I do to ensure there's a decent way to get large objects from first floor into second floor.

[@__ZANE__]

@@thinkoutsidethecontainer Freight elevator!! ;-)

[@christianlarose1203]

@@__ZANE__ thats what i was thinking

[@newdefsys]

@@thinkoutsidethecontainer Maybe you could pre-prep a storage area in one of the new containers and put all the large items in it, fly all of it up together with the crane. After you finish the upper bedrooms, open the prepped area and pull out the furniture and then finish that area into livable space. _(edit)_ Include something ridiculously heavy and bulky (like 4 huge marble tree planters) for the 2nd floor balcony. Let people wonder how you got that up there.

[@andrereddick673]

We are building a 3 container home in N FL. Started in 2023. Started watching your channel a couple years earlier. We have 20 columns on a sloped lot. The containers are 18” above ground on one end and 5’ on the other. However the only thing we’ll put up top is a rooftop deck. 😊

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Wow 5' above ground on one side. Must be some epicly long columns 👍

[@barbhello808]

I am sooooooooo excited to watch the build. Please have more videos then the first round. You left us hanging for sooooo long then, BAM! House was finished lol!!! Missed ya buddy, best of luck on your build

[@PM-lz5gs]

Yeah it went straight from framing to finished 🤷‍♂️

[@alexdalton5963]

Think about I beams between floors that also stick out each side giving the support for rap around walk way and support for strength in between floors.

[@michalaugustin8122]

If you offset the top containers you can have nice roof for car on one side and nice terrase on the other side

[@datdamndavisboy]

I’m glad you are back and look forward to future videos!!

[@56coupedeville]

Box the c-frame on the contaiers you put on top. They will then be much stronger, and then you dont have to use post downstairs

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Interesting idea.

[@56coupedeville]

@@thinkoutsidethecontainer it will be innteresing to follow the build.

[@OfficialDeanC]

3:29 that’s a great price! In Arizona these same ones are running more than $4,000 EACH 😮.

[@princessayahni5906]

This IS Amazing. I love this! I look forward to seeing your journey

[@DOOBERtv]

Never forget Red PIll!

[@TheKing-kw6mu]

Forreal. Only ogs remeber huh

[@patrickdittman]

Cool stuff man. I was just thinking the other day how much I miss the old Red Pill Philosophy channel but I love this one too.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

It's still on Odyssey if you want the latest inncell updates

[@teimarawaruben7367]

Can't wait for the next video! excited!!!😜

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

👍

[@KLartrandM]

I like your logic an planning. An i appreciate your clafication on whats your opinion until you get things checked out by an engineer. Also killer editing

[@COD_Dory]

for the deck over the septic system. there is no reason you couldnt weld small ibeams under the existing containers to cantilever the deck on that side. the rest of the deck can be using the posts like you planned.. i suspectyou will need to do similar and weld ibeams for the upper floor deck

[@blackline-qf6fl]

Looking forward to the stairs set out & install...

[@naturalforlife5834]

Awesome, can't wait to see what you come with😊

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

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[@SXVWT]

Interesting thoughts. Very professional video👍

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

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[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Have you considered concrete floor? They look pretty good and completely solve the leveling issue, as you do the entire floor as a single pour. Just make sure you have all the wiring, plumbing, etc. in the walls not under the floor. Though you could easily add in floor heating if you use a concrete floor. I'd also suggest a tankless hot water heater for all new home construction or improvement projects. They save money, eliminate waste heat from the home, and do not require a 4 to 9 sq foot waste of floor space. Most can be placed inside a standard 2x4 stud wall easily. I converted to tankless and saved $40 a month on my electricity bill by doing so.

[@streamtabulous]

cross beams on top of the containers front to back, aka load bearing joists then won't need posts. to be fair the floor tiles are meant to be on 3mm to 5mm ply board that wood likely fix the gap issue, [ i used wood not would as a pun ] pipe system is a Australian standard and houses over 20y old on issues, but there should be catches on all, at least this way to reduce gases in home etc plus catch jewellery and stuff dropped down

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

👍👍👍

[@leonel9641]

Awesome video

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

thanks

[@damagethis]

Cant want for the next video, the plans looks amazing

[@LCEUclan]

Looking good so far! One of the possible options I'd recommend is putting a traditional style staircase over the south side in place of a porch/overhang as: -that way it wouldn't conflict too much with the septic tank (I think? I'm no designer/builder, but I'm sure there's a way it could be incorporated without putting anything to interfere with the system), -it would give you traditional steps which would be easier to use to bring up larger items to the second floor without struggling up either of the spiral staircase, -and lastly from a first responder standpoint (Firefighter/EMT), it would allow for easier means of egress for those that might have physical difficulties going up or down such staircases, and EMS would be able to easily assist someone down regular stairs than a spiral set (trust me, been there!). Just things to think about! You're designs have all been great and I look forward to seeing whats next!!

[@Neon-1337]

Think about if you orient the roof to the south, you could attach solar panels to it

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

The air gap between the roof and the top of the 2nd floor also adds a thermal break, to keep the heat out of your home from the sun via thermal transmission. I added a covered front porch to my home, that blocks the sun from hitting only the front wall of my home, reduced internal temps in summer by 10 to 15 degrees. I so wish I had done a full roof instead, the additional cooling would have reduced my AC bill massively, and likely would have paid for the roof by now.

[@christianlarose1203]

u're a great Genius.. i love what u're doing.. stay strong

[@ginagonzalez6547]

Hi, I learned a lot about your concept of building a second floor. As you were explaining, I was wondering, wouldn't it be easier to just build another ground level and not complicate things? In theory, everything makes sense for what you are thinking, but it may end up being way over budget. If you have a big enough lot, it would be easier to just make a side by side structure making a deck in between both to unite them. Maybe building a see thru hallway thst would connect one structure with the other. As far as privacy, you can make windows up high to bring in light and you will not have to worry about privacy. It would be cost effective to build it this way since you learned from previous construction and if you have to have a deck on top, you can always build on top of the roof of the first building and it would be a wider space and not a wrap around. If you want, you can even extend it to make it even bigger and having like awning over the building to get some shade. At least you have another option to compare cost, labor and efficiency. You can still have the design you want but less complicated. You will show us what you came up with in the future.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

If I do what you suggest, I'm not sure if would save money or labor. I would have to build more foundation columns if I did it your way. By adding a second floor I am utilizing the existing first floor containers which are designed for the transportation industry to stack on each other. I live on 1.25 acres. Still, I would prefer to keep as much of the land as possible instead of eliminating it by expanding the house horizontally instead of vertically.

[@lake737]

I think you need to check out some of the other homes here on KZbin that have two stories. You may not need all that stuff you're looking at with spacers and stuff if you look some of them put i-beams across to hold the weight just in case.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

You might be right. I'll also point out that since I'm hoping to remove as few of the corrugated walls of the second floor containers as possible, my understanding is that less walls cut out means less likelihood of c channel sagging (I'm not a structural engineer though). So, if I do manage to cut our very few container walls, then it's possible I won't have to worry about c channel sagging.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

As someone who is now permanently disabled and an amputee, I would strongly suggest you NOT use a spiral staircase in your home. Spiral stairs are tight enough to begin with, but imagine trying to lug a full laundry basket up that tight staircase every day or two. Now imagine that you have a disability as well, like a prosthetic leg. And there's no way at all to use one in a wheelchair. Plan your home to be accessible if you think you are going to spend more than 10 years there, because you are more than likely to spend at least some time injured during the next decade. Crutches, boots, etc. are common, but artificial limbs and even wheelchairs could be required as well. Planing ahead may keep you from having to redesign and rebuild your home, or even prevent you from being forced to move to a new home.

[@ThE4EvRPs3GaMeR]

This 100%

[@OfficiallyFran]

Glad to see you still building!

[@danielmcgrane5698]

Very interested in seeing this project! I have been thinking about a stacked container home for several reasons and have been scoping properties. I can't wait to see what you come up with.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

👍👍

[@chesterossa]

How is the current roof holding up? (As far as drainage, pooling, etc) In addition, I love how concise your content is. Your addressing potential design issues does not go unnoticed. Thanks for the content

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

The roof works fine. No leaks. The Henry Tropical seal is still in fantastic condition. Water does pool in some spots when it rains, but it eventually evaporates away, it's basically inconsequential.

[@daverobert7927]

Looking forward to your progress after watching the first level build. Question - Plumbing on the 2nd floor. Is there a space problem (ceiling and floor). Interested in how you will fit and build.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

I've done some early designing of plumbing system, and it looks like the toilet's drain line is the primary hurdle, since they require large 3" or greater pipes. The smartest thing to do is position the toilet on the outer perimeter wall of the home. That way I can run the 3" drain line down the exterior side of the house/wall and down to the first floor and down away to the septic system. It just seems like the easiest way to retrofit such a massive diameter pipe.

[@arielshikoba1857]

Here he go again ☺️ do ya thang bro!

[@alcidesmurray8111]

I kepe luking on the first parte of the 3 container house bilt waiting to see wats next 🎉 good like what coming up next

[@VenturaIT]

you don't need posts, you can theoretically cut out all the walls and have whatever floor-plan that you want with sufficiently sized steel beams, on the second floor the beams can even go on the exterior, for the first floor they will have to go under the ceiling unless you build space between the containers to put them above the first floor ceiling... with the beams, there is some loss in ceiling height unless the beams are placed above the ceiling and they are supported by posts on each end that protrude from the wall a bit... but you then get clear space in the center on both floors, you can see many container builds that do this... there is a big apartment building in utah built by stacking and welding the seams with flat steel panels... the best thing for the floors is to take out the original floor and put in all new floors since those original floors can be contaminated... ideally you'd want to sand blast all surfaces and repaint to remove any contamination and remove any porous material like the flooring... then get the contamination in the air checked by a GC-MS lab test... there is a company in Canada that has the trusses that hold up the connection seams from above the ceiling on the exterior so you dont have a traditional beam taking away ceiling height... what would be really cool is to double it up and use two containers stacked on top of each other for about 16 foot ceiling height, then the structure would be 4 containers high and have 16 foot ceilings... but this might be out of your budget and not what you want... an alternate cool design could be where you stack them right on top but then push out all 3 over the edge to create a balcony patio on one end and covered area below on the other end... then check out this video for how they did the exterior and interior for a nice premium look: "3 x 20ft Shipping Containers Turn Into Amazing Compact Home" I've also seen the interior done more easily without framing by attaching foam to the back of finish plywood and just gluing them on the walls with the walls painted black so the space between the panels was left open and even so you can run wires and pipes in the recessed spaces and it goes up a lot faster, can't find that video right now since I saw it years ago... but you don't have to use drywall... and you can put the insulation on the exterior to save interior space and might even be cheaper and faster... I like the look of the finish on that video I posted the title above... where you live it think you just need to keep the exterior skin from dropping too cold to stop condensation and you might be able to do that with some recycled materials or adhesive on the outside (saw it in a video but not sure what it was they were sticking to the walls outside ot make it look really nice, I saw they stuck some adhesive like rubber on the outside then finished it in cement board that was painted bright white and made to look nice and modern and smooth...

[@Chris-liwymi]

Just as a sidenote I put a shark bite on the inlet for my water heater like maybe eight years ago and yeah it’s never dripped hey single drop but That’s just me

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

I've gotten the impression that a good amount of the hate Sharkbite gets is from people who work in associated fields. I guess I'll be more confident in this impression if I get no leaks after 15 years lol

[@RonAaron33]

Coolest

[@PM-lz5gs]

Awesome videos 👍 Have you thought about having the 1st to 2nd floor staircase on the exterior rather than the interior. Obviously enclosed with glass or some other material.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

I thought about it but...the thought on building some watertight exterior structure to enclose it sounds like a pain....lol then again maybe that wouldn't be as bad as my current plan

[@PM-lz5gs]

And maybe think about carpet upstairs to reduce foot traffic noise and negate the uneven floor between containers?

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

The second floor container is completely separate from the first floor. I do not expect foot traffic to be heard very much (if at all) from the first floor.

[@charbar311226]

I’m looking forward to update videos.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Soon 👍

[@PewPewVida]

EASY TO WALK WIDE STAIRS is what you need, to the right of your entrance, as soon as you turn RIGHT to where your editing room is, UP stairs wide, and probably at a 35`40 degree angle for easy carrying mattresses, furniture upstairs. Spiral stairs isn’t viable option, you’ll hate it. Trust me!!

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Yeah, I've thought about that. My spiral staircase is going to have steps that are about 2.5' wide. It's certainly not very wide. I might end up creating some kind of second floor access doors, and any large items can be dragged up with harnesses up the side of the house and onto the deck. I don't know. Still figuring it out.

[@damnationbegins]

I think youre going to run into issues with the second floor wrap around deck. The issue being you need a way to make all that load to bear on just the corners, even with i-beams the 40 ft span will cause a tremendous amount of sagging for a clear span

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Thanks for sharing. Although my 3D model in this video does not show any vertical posts underneath the decks that reach down into the earth, I do plan to use vertical posts. In other words, the decks won't just be hanging off/supported only by the 40' containers... they will be partially supported by vertical posts. Thoughts?

[@Kodanikage]

Still more affordable than traditional housing

[@lestercole1684]

Perhaps a metal roof for a rainwater catchment system.

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

Simple gutters on any roof will serve that purpose. Add catch barrels at the downspouts and you are good to go.

[@kayoray]

Please tell me you have more blueprints availlable for the 2nd floor!!!❤😂

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Lol not yet lol...still fleshing out the details on that

[@Dang_Near_Fed_Up]

@@thinkoutsidethecontainer Remember the weight of a tub is massive (more the water, than the tub) so keeping it in a corner will reduce the need to add structural support elements to carry that weight.

[@jamesmccoy2557]

Why not have the roof cover the entire porch. That way you can have a wrap around porch.

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

I originally had it that way in my model but it did not look good as a whole house.

[@beanieweenie9543]

Always better to over build the first instead of having to rebuilding because you underbuilt!

[@Dylster501]

Instead of a curved roof you could so a nice deck roof then you can hang out and have a nice view

[@douglaslandry7740]

Make the windows bigger, please

[@whitneykrings3946]

You’re in Florida! Whereabouts? I’m in the Tampa area and looking for land to someday build a container home on. I love your idea for a second floor!

[@dillonmazziotto8751]

What are main things to look out for when buying land in Florida for container home?

[@ehass85]

Why do you bother with the central containers rather than light gauge steel framing or structural timber framing? Could make 2 at bottom (void in centre) and a 90 degree rotated duplicate of that for 2nd floor

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

I haven't run a cost-benefit analysis on a middle container vs framing out myself. A single container cost me $2,435 (this includes shipping). So, I don't know...do you think framing it out myself, including roof beams, floor beams, and a sub floor, and the labor/time of building it is better than iust buying/inserting a third container? Keep in mind that for this second floor I plan to cut almost almost NONE of the corrugated walls in the second floor containers.

[@janetramos9871]

Omg!! This is so hard!! I’m trying to start my process of my home and I do t know where to start!! I’ve called a few people and they said it’s 15k for just the plans!!! 😭😭😭😭

[@joshuaavila8317]

Can it handle the weight ?

[@ThE4EvRPs3GaMeR]

I would think so since he said from the very beginning he always had the idea of a second floor. Additionally, I feel that's why he opted to put so many support pillars. That's my thought process, but idk.

[@keywestalert6329]

It should be a seperate house.

[@BetterThruYou]

Hey been watching for a while. Love what you're doing. Which also helped us decide to go on with our plans on building ours. You offered on your previous video that you do plans for them or you offer services to design. We would like to work with you on this , if you are still doing so

[@phuturephred]

why not just keep some interior metal walls exposed? its cheaper more spacious and gives it character

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

I'm seriously considering that. My only concern right now is if there could be echoing sound from the metal walls. I'll have to investigate this further.

[@platinyzolambemba6136]

Do you have to get another permit for the 2nd floor?

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

Yes

[@cruxbunco]

What program are you using to draw your 3D floor plans in the video? Thanks

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

SketchUp for the basic modeling. And then for the more realistic rendering videos I use AmbientOcclusionEx, along with Fredo6 Animator to actually animate the moving objects.

[@cruxbunco]

@thinkoutsidethecontainer Thanks Great looking home...Thanks for the motivation?

[@_Andrew._]

You don't want a small spiral staircase.

[@CraigTucson]

Come back to the political realm. i need insight!!

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

@@CraigTucson lol.

[@peterdow1908]

Prior to installing the second floor Containers, Build a Steel Grid that will support both the decks and strengthen the entire structure!

[@thinkoutsidethecontainer]

@@peterdow1908 interesting. I don't think that's necessary, but I'll give your suggestion some thought. I'm currently fleshing out the structural reinforcements for the design so ...