I'm Considering Keeping BOTH Leica Q3 Cameras - Leica Q3 28mm

In this video, I review the Leica Q3 28mm and discuss why you might want to stick with the 28mm Summilux f/1.7 version even though Leica just released the new Leica Q3 43mm f/2. I dive into build quality, the advantages of the 28mm focal length for street photography, and the new features like the tilt screen and 60MP triple resolution sensor.
If you're wondering whether the Leica Q3 28mm is still relevant or if you should make the jump to the Q3 43mm, this video is for you. I'll be getting the Leica Q3 43mm soon and will give you a full comparison after testing it for a few weeks. Make sure to subscribe and hit the notification bell so you don’t miss that review!
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[@savrah]

Fully agree. Basically, Q3 can do everything that 43 can but not the other way around.

[@robbiesumantri]

Great point…

[@ck81818]

Not really. Q3 28mm doesn't have the nice bokeh like the 43mm and it can't take portraits the way like 43mm.

[@jonshin31]

@@ck81818q3 28 bokeh is really nice.

[@ronaldjohnston7989]

Another fantastic video...thanks. I just (today) purchased a used Q3 from HK...can't wait! Love your videos and I'm subscribed...Ron J from USA

[@robbiesumantri]

Congrats on your new camera!! Thank you so much for stopping by

[@devlincook5741]

Hey Robbie! Couldn’t agree more! Came close to selling mine and switching to the 43 but realized the 28 really is perfect for fast paced street shooting. Especially with how easy and quick it is to change between MF and AF for zone focusing.

[@robbiesumantri]

Yeah 28mm is nice especially with the 60mp sensor. But, 43 also has its purpose.. I’ll tak about the Q343 when I’m ready.. Thank you for stopping by

[@savrah]

Thank you for not saying, "This changes everything", like all other KZbinrs.

[@robbiesumantri]

Don’t tempt me…

[@IntrovertAmateur]

I have owned previous Qs including the Q3 and always had the feeling 28mm was too wide for my personal taste and sold them all after some time. Always thought I could make it work, specially the Q3 with 60MP and cropping, but somehow it was not for me. Now I have the Q3 43 and I have to say it is the Q I always wanted - Q with longer focal length. It sounds clische, but for my personal hobby use it changes the way it shoot. With the 28mm version I had the mindset of cropping in post. With this 43mm (beside prefering the compression of a longer focal length) I have the mindset of a prime lens, thinking much much more about composition etc. and somehow I like this more :) Just my two cents and personal experience so far, curious about your upcoming videos, after you having more time with the camera :)

[@robbiesumantri]

Thank you for stopping by, yes, I agree 28mm can be tough to compose for and it’s too wide for a lot of us. It really comes down to preference and I’m happy that we have options. Thx for watching and stay tuned for the Q3 43mm review. 🙏🙏

[@josephlai1078]

I think each focal length has its merits. It basically comes down to habit and style (even though I personally tend not to use the word style when it comes to photography) of shooting. I am more of a 35mm person, so I chose the M system with options to change lenses. The 43mm APO lens is great, but it will not surpass focal length as my first priority factor. If I am to pick up a Q3 at 60MP resolution, I probably will go for the 28mm with the option to crop. However, I also think that Leica have listened, which is why we see a 43mm version available. On a side note, there are a lot of second hand barely used Q3 available in many market place, which might be good for bargain hunters.

[@robbiesumantri]

I agree. It’s nice that we have options. Each one has its place and purpose. And like I said in the video, we keep both in an ideal world. Thx for stopping by..

[@t87h21]

That's right, selling the Q3 and buying the Q3 43mm is a really bad deal financially. I own the Q3 and you can crop extremely well up to 50mm, above that you loose to much.

[@bullclan]

One of the advantages I have found with the digital crop is hard to expose environments. When cropped in it will only use the crop area for its exposure calculation. Helpful when you have a challenging lighting situation and can only take one picture.

[@robbiesumantri]

Interesting… I expose for the highlights though, there’s so much you can recover in the shadows..

[@KemApak]

Thank you for your great review. Everything else aside, we are all biased to what we like or what we want. Even the 28mm is great for some folks it is a show stopper for me, I would never buy it. I was hoping for a 50mm Q3. I am surprised why they offered 43 instead of 50mm. In conclusion, I am happy to see Leica finally give us some options. I am sure both 28mm will continue to sell like hot cakes and the new 43mm will be even more popular.

[@robbiesumantri]

Thank you for stopping by. My guess on why leica released this focal length is size. The dimensions they wanted to keep both the measurements of the cameras very similar if not identical based on what they did with the hood. I might be talking out of my arse though.. Yes, I agree.. I’m glad we have options and when I started, I did not think I would shoot anything wider than a 50mm and things have changed.

[@KemApak]

@@robbiesumantri Thank you so much for your reply. I usually shoot portraits of family and friends, usually indoors. A wide lens like 28mm would not work for me.

[@robbiesumantri]

@@KemApak there you go!! Different focal lengths for us with different use cases

[@jamie.dop_]

Can I ask before watching… have you actually used the Q3 43?

[@robbiesumantri]

I tried it, not for an extended period of time, definitely not ready to do a review. The video is about the cases when the q3 28 will be better suited for.. If only you watched it before asking 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@jamie.dop_]

@@robbiesumantri appreciate your response. I have reviewed the Q3 43 and it would have been useful for you to watch before in theory… guessing to make a video for views. How you can compare cameras without properly using one. Click bait with no actual substance means people unsubscribe and I’ll lead the way. 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@robbiesumantri]

Well I guess I’ll follow your stellar example of making assumptions

[@LeePierre]

Actually i left a sub as not many reviewers talk about 28 vs 43 😂 keep them coming dude 😊

[@jamie.dop_]

@@robbiesumantri apologies… have I missed something? What assumption? Also these back and forth conversations are good for your algorithm so I encourage you to carry on. I wasn’t being rude by asking you a question or by unsubscribing. In all honesty I have really enjoyed your previous videos and seen them all, and as I used to follow you on YT and Insta I knew you hadn’t tried the 43 as you wouldn’t have been able to keep it quiet. So I asked if you have actually used the 43 and as I expected you haven’t really so why would I ‘no disrespect’ waste my time watching an opinion that isn’t valid? And not only is it not valid but it does the one thing we all hate…. Clickbait. Make it make sense fella. Just hear to talk, not to bully

[@sylvaincherkaoui]

I'm used to working with my Q2 28mm with my sl2 and a 50mm lens, so the Q3 will replace the sl2 for most of my work.

[@robbiesumantri]

That sounds awesome.. 28 and 50 is quite a combo. Well 43 is close enough

[@ignus16]

great video, thanks! where did you find out about this thing of having an extra stop of dynamic range when you are using M-DNG? i have heard this said before but i havnt seen it written down anywhere.. does this make any difference to the JPEGs or is it just in the DNG?

[@robbiesumantri]

It is in the manual and mathphotographer did extensive testing. Thank you so much… I think it affects both jpeg and dng

[@tedsoqui2087]

Do you feel the Q3 system is more SL than M? I have the Q2 Reporter, I like it, but it doesn't render like an M. It does well, but it is more modern than legacy.

[@robbiesumantri]

That is exactly how I feel about the Q3.. The lenses render more like SL lenses than M lenses.. Thank you for stopping by.

[@tedsoqui2087]

@@robbiesumantri The main advantage of the Q system is that it is weatherproof. The M system look has more character, for sure. I love that night market you photographed, I visited it once before.

[@robbiesumantri]

Yeah that is good.. I keep forgetting the M aren’t weatherproof.. I will get into trouble one day 🤣🤣

[@elliotresnick5433]

I agree Q3 “Summilux” is not the same as the 28mm M version in terms of character; additionally Q3 28mm is closer to 25 or 26mm in focal length whereas on the M version it’s actually 28mm. To me, that was a big deal. To make things even more confusing, Leica is using the Summilux banner on cellphones for example with Xiaomi.

[@robbiesumantri]

It is most definitely a lot closer to an SL lens than an M

[@dominicwei770]

Great Vid and great oppinion. You really nailed it. I own the 28 and I would never buy the 43 instead. It would be much to narrow for my usecase. I also wont buy the 43 on top. I dont want to travel with to much equipment.

[@robbiesumantri]

28mm is great for a lot of us, 43 is awesome for the rest of us.. It’s great that we have options Thank you for stopping by

[@MaxPhotoGraphic]

Nice point of view, and really interesting photos

[@robbiesumantri]

Thanks so much mate

[@ck81818]

The Q3 43mm gives me the reason why I dump the 28mm.

[@robbiesumantri]

Nice!! Glad you like the new one. It’s nice we have options

[@Stickybutton]

The compression and distortion of a 23mm to be cropped to mimic a 50mm is flawed to begin with. I have not bought a Q3 just because of this, Leica is known for their primes not through digital crop. My 43 is on order. Even though I have two types of M11s. I want an AF for convenience.

[@robbiesumantri]

I agree with you and congrats on your new camera. It’s great we have options and I recognise the 28mm is not for everyone. On the other hand, some of us would prefer it for the wide angle.

[@elliotresnick5433]

A Q3 as a companion of the M11 makes a lot of sense if you can afford it. IMO a Q3 as one’s only camera lacks versatility.

[@robbiesumantri]

But limitations forces creativity!! It changes everything!!! Sorry.. i had to.. i think the q3 as being the only camera is tough. In this case, i would actually recommend going for the 43.. easier to shoot.. 28mm ican be challenging

[@ianforber]

I never noticed a difference between my M11 + 50mm Summicron and my Q2. I know it goes against perceived wisdom but compression doesn’t exist - if the distance between the camera and subject remains the same, the only difference is depth of field. Less so with distortion but if you stand back and take the picture at the same distance as you would with a 50mm (the pseudo frame lines in the Q are a great way of judging this) the picture is the same except for depth of field. Often people want to capture the image in camera without needing to crop (especially portraits) so their natural instinct is to step forward and fill the frame with the subject which will then show heavy distortion. I think if the Q cameras allowed the user to magnify the EVF image to show the in-camera crop they had selected it might go a long way to reassuring 28mm users that 43mm isn’t such a big jump (obviously you would do the actual final crop in post, not in camera).

[@robbiesumantri]

@ianforber one of the things I wish they did.. Give us the option of the framelines or a crop preview..

[@deadreckoningoutdoors]

I don’t shoot wide so have been waiting for the new Leica. But understand it’s a personal choice.

[@robbiesumantri]

Genuinely happy the new camera suits you. I will live with both for a bit and see which one I like

[@TWEAKER01]

"even the lens cap is made of metal", the buttons "are clicky" - riveting stuff. The body is magnesium alloy and the top plate aluminum. The point being, you need to know more about your topic before having something of *value* to offer an audience, rather than yet another video of reiterating specifications and an excuse to share some snaps but using the latest camera name in the title. This video could've been a discussion of 28 vs 40 or 43 mm (of course there are differences and subjective taste). Or the details of an Apochromatic designed lens. Consider it a lesson learned.

[@robbiesumantri]

Thx for watching

[@mallingwater984]

I have the Q3 28 brilliant camera very tempted by the 43, having both is extravagant and it makes you poorer so maybe the Q4 will be a 28-70 zoom f2 that would be nice SORTED.

[@robbiesumantri]

Do you crop in heavily on most photos? If so, 43 might be for you

[@mallingwater984]

I tried it once but I like 28mm Q3 for city/travel. I have SL2s & M10 plus lenses. But I can just take Q3 on its own as the quality is superb. Just thinking the Q3 43 for just a different perspective for days when I want something different and simple, one camera, lens small light auto focus.

[@robbiesumantri]

I’m finding that it depends on the location you are travelling to.. 43 is awesome for wider open spaces.. 28 is awesome for tighter alleyways..

[@mallingwater984]

It seems as if some want one or the other and some want both. Shame they don’t do left handed versions so you could have one in each hand.

[@robbiesumantri]

@@mallingwater984 I want both tbh 🤣🤣🤣… don’t know how long that’ll last

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

Hello Robbie the 43 is much superior grade lens as it’s APO!

[@robbiesumantri]

Never said it’s not an amazing lens. Just that some people might find the 28mm focal length more useful than the 43

[@LeicaMD]

Don't spend time on such a video. The man has not even tried or seen the Leica Q3 43 !! Not even touched it. It's not serious. Maybe he right that the camera isn't for him, but he don't know. Because he have never tried or seen the camera. Very nonsensical

[@robbiesumantri]

Ok… Enjoy your assumptions

[@chronocross85]

Maybe next time test out the Q3 43 before making a video and claiming the 28mm is better. This is like saying the Leica Q2 is better than the Leica Q2 Monochrome because you can always change the color to black/white

[@robbiesumantri]

In some situations, 28mm will be more suitable than a tighter 43mm lens. I did give context as to why it is “better” and at no point did I mention image quality and lens performance. I do have the 43 with me and I will be releasing a video about why it will suit a different group of people. In this case, it is equivalent to someone choosing a 28mm prime over a 43mm prime on the same camera body.

[@mrsbirkinluxury5816]

typical youtuber trying to ride the q3 wave you've not even used the q3 43 in anger so how can you say the 28mm is better. downvote. unsubbed.

[@robbiesumantri]

Because it’s the same camera with only the focal length that has changed. 40mm or 43mm is not new

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

They can’t afford 43 😂

[@GurmeetSingh-fr8uo]

@@robbiesumantribetter lens APO

[@robbiesumantri]

Assumptions, assumptions..

[@robbiesumantri]

Same camera, different lens. And the hype would not be this huge if they only released an apo 43

[@bandacasciavit]

I agree 100%

[@robbiesumantri]

Thank you for watching 🙏🙏

[@t87h21]

I own the Leica Q3 and would not sell it for the 43mm Q3, which would ultimately be a very bad financial deal. The fact is that both are the same cameras, both have a great design and high-quality workmanship. If you are about to buy a Q3, you can consider 28 mm (in crop, perfect up to 50 mm) or 43 mm (in crop, probably suitable up to 75 mm). People want everything that is new, if the 43 mm version had always existed and a 28 mm was coming out now, the internet would be just as full of them. If a Q4 comes out in a few years, I probably won't replace my Q3 with it but will complement it with a Q4 43 mm, maybe.., but today I'm fine.

[@robbiesumantri]

Yea they are the same camera. I wish they added a bit more stuff like internal memory. I do think having the options is nice. Ideally, keep both? Thx for stopping by

[@Leicashootr]

I bet you’ve never have been taken a picture 😂

[@robbiesumantri]

Nope.. never.. I buy cameras and stroke them to fall asleep while I cry…

[@jayocotube6483]

Extra stop of DR at 36mp? Not on my sl3. Not on my m11. Not on my q3. I wish. It’s just not the case.

[@robbiesumantri]

Go check out mathphotographer’s video about the Q3 where he did a scientific analysis on it. You’ll find your wish granted. Weirdly, it does not appy to the m11

[@Anatol19066]

Because of a leaf shutter in Q line you just have no chance to check the shutter count if you want to buy a used Q. There’s no such an option. All you have is just to believe the seller.

[@robbiesumantri]

Is shutter count that important?

[@Anatol19066]

@@robbiesumantri actually yes if buying a used one . Especially with Q line. Shutters they have their life limits, and to fix or replace it in Q is a very expensive repair. That’s why buying a used camera first thing you want to check is a shutter count of the unit. Yes i know nobody will take hundreds of thousands of images with Q, but if you are lets say a third owner of a Q-p..who knows how many clicks it made before it became yours..

[@robbiesumantri]

@Anatol19066 yeah I guess it’s a challenge to buying used Qs. I think you need to be really unlucky to buy a used Q and have the shutter turn to dust soon after though. Hoping the build quality is good…

[@Anatol19066]

@@robbiesumantri that’s why i don’t buy them.

[@brettsinclair8974]

never interested in 28mm , i love the new 43mm

[@robbiesumantri]

28mm can be too wide.. Congrats on the new camera

[@JLX5]

Making a suggestion and review without getting your hands on the camera you're reviewing? You content creators are getting really shameless.

[@robbiesumantri]

I did not review the 43 in this video 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️ I merely suggested this focal length would suit some of us more than the new one.. Focal length is not something new. Maybe try understanding the context before commenting

[@JLX5]

I will stop watching the content of folks as soon as it's clear they've never put their hands-on before. Charlatans is the name for tgese type of people. You play innocent but you dropping the name Leica and a new camera to get views and then you speak about focal length. As a photographer you also should know that Leica's 28 is not a 28 (more like a 26) and the 43 I don't know yet because I didn't use it yet. So you're focal length excuse is of course (like the video) flawed. You guys are so desperately trying to get views no matter at what cost. If the video was about focal length you'd compare a real 28 vs a 43 in a camer you own and know with samples and pros and cons and call it "28 vs 43 focal length opinion" of course the truth and no clickbait brings you no viewers on KZbin 🤣 so just be honest with what you're atempting to do here... you're giving your opinion about two Leica cameras of at least one of them you never touched before so you cannot know! Maybe it is a 40 or a 45, maybe not.

[@robbiesumantri]

So you assume all that? I did say I will review the camera after extensive testing. Unless you prefer the “life changing camera!!! Go get it” approach. With regard to the title, it says that the 28 is better than the 43 in some cases. It is after all the same camera with a different focal length. I will also stop responding to your comment before you understand the context of the video, you charlatan

[@JLX5]

Your argumentative skills fail you my friend. Repeating what I say back to me doesn't really do what you think it does. And the one that seems not to understand (or maybe purposely ignore) the good observations I did in my previous comment is you. Don't need to reply cause you lost already at the video part 😅

[@robbiesumantri]

@@JLX5 enjoy your life and new camera 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

[@Phoyographer]

Meh...nikon z is way better

[@robbiesumantri]

Ok