I'm Done, Shannon.

[@emilyartful]

I’ll be releasing new, bright, colorful spring merch next month! The winter merch collection will all go into retirement once that happens so grab a piece while it’s still available! crowdmade.com/collections/emilyartful I did an interview with the wonderful @SWOOP, go check it out! She has done amazing coverage on this whole situation and deserves your view and your subscription! kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5fRpZR6op6mjLc

[@yuenmienyu]

both of you queens have dealt with Shannon’s manipulation so maturely, props to you both

[@frankiesayspanic]

looking forward to it! you are such an inspiration to me as both an artist and an SA survivor. thank you for your bravery.

[@AngieDeAguirre]

Emily! The EDITION OF THIS VIDEO IS FANTASTIC!!!! I love the angles, the lighting, and the calm vibe. And the cuts are just spot on on... I loved it since the first second. I mean... The aquarelles shot? divine!

[@jennyveile]

I am sending you healing thoughts. On a lighter note, your videos inspired me in my own art. You are very talented. I hope that you have continued success on your channel and of course with your life. I’m a fan of SWOOP so I look forward to the video. I hope you do something nice to relax now that you got this out. You deserve it.

[@kendraadams6953]

I love and respect you BOTH. Count me in!!!

[@yuki97kira]

This isn't even drama. It's a crime. Drama is when someone badmouth someone about how they smells, not literal stalking

[@TalesoftheSolstice]

The dramafest part of it is all the videos that Shannon forces to be made with her childish bs. She's doing it for attention and she knows Emily gets more attention the right way with her honesty and talented artwork while Shannon has nothing to stand on. Shannon doesn't even use her own artwork on her "channel" - the speedpaints are all sent to her from someone else and all shannon does is a little editing here and there as well as her voice over.

[@NBDYSPCL]

I agree. The "drama" was the ridiculous lolcow stuff. This is harassment and stalking *and sexuvl vssvult* . I hope Emily can use this all to get a restraining order on the two of them *at the very least.*

[@vanemo]

Stalking + Raping

[@NBDYSPCL]

@@vanemo "but she was drunk! How would she *know* if she consented or not" /s 🙄

[@vanemo]

@@NBDYSPCL Drunk people can NOT consent.

[@thegameplayer125]

shannon sure did a fantastic job destroying her reputation, youtube career and many of her friendships due to her weird and disturbing obsession with you. a downfall that is well deserved

[@erikswanson4022]

It's honestly about time. I haven't watched creepshow in years but every few months a video or two would pop up in my feed about some of the horrific shit she would do to other people and it baffled me how she was still around and still managed to find people to make drama with.

[@toby7113]

I used to lightly watch her but now I've 100% stopped. I didn't focus too much on the drama (not my thing) but after watching this I hate how she has acted it's so immature.

[@benjirivoh]

@@toby7113 same,

[@catharsismemory]

i don't get it, either she or that guy is driving her crazy about emily. its definitely has to be that anthony guy.

[@lilith57]

agreed

[@scaredandconfused]

"When Emily was born, she cried. Not for people who are racially discriminated, but for HERSELF. This shows to goes that she is a manipulative psychopath." -Shannon

[@yoggers2121]

lmaooo so i guess almost all of the humans that are living and have ever lived on this earth are manipulative psychopaths huh?

[@TheCreeperSwagOffical]

@Cillian lmfao I remember that video

[@minecraftpiglinmattspoemsd2287]

@Cillian They are loving and innocent 👶🥰 But they're not good. They're entirely self-centered, just they have to, to survive. "I want mommy, I want milk, I want to be held" 👩‍🍼👨‍🍼🍼 If those things didn't happen immediately, it will ruin your life. 👶👊 That's not goodness, that's narcissism!

[@ellespoonies]

@@minecraftpiglinmattspoemsd2287 i know this is probably a joke, but you can’t love others without loving yourself first, that’s not narcissism. babies are innocent, pure. they haven’t been tainted by society. narcissism is a disorder, not a trait. although you can have narcissistic tendencies, i wouldn’t really say babies do, at least not in the very earliest years of life. narcissism is created, unless you’re born a psychopath, which most babies are not. babies are instinctual, they run on pure self preservation and unrestrained love, they can’t afford to focus on anyone other than themselves and their parents until they have the ability to care for themselves. i wouldn’t really call that narcissism, that’s just having reasonable priorities.

[@Sarah_H]

@@minecraftpiglinmattspoemsd2287 therefore, every pet that does tricks or brings you things for treats is a narcissistic sociopath. You heard it here first, folks! /sarcasm

[@LadyRichina]

It's absolutly disgusting that Emily has to recount her entire life and trauma to strangers online because someone wanted to air her life because they have some issue with her. How is this anyone's business to know? It's definitely none of Shannons to tell. It's truly scary that she has to defend herself on this level because of this.

[@egr3071]

Agrred

[@iamV10010]

My feelings exactly. It's so abhorrent. Shannon is truly disturbed.

[@MissSweetie]

shannon is disgusting.

[@anthonyhart2391]

As bad as this is, there's one good thing that came out of this. Shannon's unleashed everything she has on Emily, and so she's all out of ammo now. It's a shame Emily had to reveal all of this stuff, but now Creepshow has nothing left on her. Well, aside from that alleged CP, but I'm sure Shannon realizes if she unleashes that, her and her husband will get an unwelcome visit from Homeland Security. 🤡

[@raquelalmeida9002]

Ouhhh, nooooo... ! I never stalked her! It could not have been me! Here are all the sordid details of her life that prove I don't know her and don't care!

[@ireallylikenuggets9490]

"When Emily was fourteen, I stalked her bedroom window while scrounging her trash for scraps and saw she had an arguement with her mother. THEREFORE, THIS PROVES SHE'S A MANIPULATING PSYCHO!" -Shannon, probably

[@alfiona7951]

When Shannon could tell the colour of Emily's walls I knew she was a far gone creep.

[@benjirivoh]

@@alfiona7951 its disgusting to think that this wouldn't bite her back in the ass.

[@Boredchinchilla]

I had to laugh at all the comments on Shannon’s video- I was sure it would be all people on her side, and instead everyone was telling her how insane she was acting

[@dreamieramune]

LMAOOO i love this comment sm

[@eggpierrot3824]

💀💀💀💀💀

[@rinibunny4576]

Blaming a 12 year old for a teacher crush reminds me of when people say a kid was the one “insinuating/leading” on the adult 🤢 so messed up

[@rainboba6763]

yeah, it’s ridiculous. we all did and said questionable things at that age because we were children who were still growing and learning.

[@kayleestephens6774]

I had a weird crush on a high school teacher because he was nice and supportive in a mentor/dad way and I didn't grow up with a dad and wasn't used to adults being nice to me without alterior motives. I feel like crushes on teachers is kind of a normal/common schoolgirl thing we grow out of eventually.

[@yuenmienyu]

another example of creepshow art giving a vibe of victim-blaming.

[@crystalgemstv4609]

Apparently she isn’t aware that it’s completely normal for kids to have crushes on adults, especially around that age; brain development and whatnot.

[@nekuro5548]

@@crystalgemstv4609 The thing is that she IS aware, she had a whole rant about it, but as soon as it came to Emily she completely flipped her views to make her look bad

[@Erinski]

Shannon: "I am not a stalker. Emily is just disgusting. This can be evidenced by (slams open one of the tomes labeled 'Smemily' on the table) the time she ordered a liverwurst and onion sandwich at Joe's Delicatessen, right before going to a cleaning appointment with her dentist, Dr. Joseph..."

[@peapotfairy]

Underrated comment

[@dash-x]

Right! It’s creepy that they seemingly everyday would wake up and notarize what Emily did that day, then tag it for cross reference to later use! It’s beyond creepy! Shannon truly single white femaled her!

[@sashiki9451]

'Tomes labeled Smemily' has me rolling at 10 am, thank you 😂😂

[@Teaginski]

Oh god this is hilarious 😆

[@kx_xx]

I needed this laugh friendo

[@Saibellus]

It's crazy how Anthony has faded into the shadows in the midst of all this. Shannon is unhinged, yes, but it's clear a lot of this information has been fed to her by Anthony. He's in the background stoking the flames, and the two women he's had in his life the most are bearing all the fallout of it. He's a reaaal piece of work, and while Shannon deserves to be exposed and put in line for how she has behaved and hurt people, it would be remiss of all of us to forget that there is a major player not getting his share of the spotlight. Anthony fanned the spark of this into a roaring fire, to hurt Emily and use Shannon as the tool. I wouldn't be surprised if, after all this, he discarded Shannon and left her to take the blame alone now that her usefulness has waned.

[@genericname8727]

In a way it’s kind of good that he’s not had the spotlight. He’s irrelevant, despite his ambitions and narcissism. Let him stay that way, fading into the shadows. If he ever starts becoming relevant then this controversy will follow him like a shadow too, and he’ll never gain any significant success in the public eye, so it doesn’t matter much imo

[@oncefighting]

@@genericname8727 ^^ THIS, the dude isn’t well-known and now when you search up his name he’ll be attached to this forever. I don’t even want to see what his music is like. I’m betting my life savings that he was so jealous that Emily got famous for her art and then Shannon got famous afterwards lmao; he’d give so much to have what both of them have.

[@katiebayliss9887]

He’ll leave her and still be loyal to him unfortunately. That’s how these types are

[@katiebayliss9887]

@@oncefighting I’ll take one for the team and try to find his music. I imagine shitty 2010’s emo for some reason

[@genericname8727]

@@katiebayliss9887 nobody wants you to find his music. Nobody cares about his music.

[@babysam3768]

shannon: im not a stalker, it’s not me!! but heres 500 tiny little details about this persons entire life that i definitely should not know

[@tiaaaron3278]

It's hilarious AND disturbing that she literally used Emily's bedroom walls colour as some sort of 'trump card'. Creepy.

[@kayredufurry7420]

Lmao I guess that's how she got the "creep" in "Creepshow Art"

[@dae.9510]

BRO THE PICTURE OF EMILY'S PILLOW ON BOB'S BED-

[@novanight5249]

Anthony.

[@Ari-ob9nj]

The little voice-crack Emily makes when recounting her sexual assault, being forced to go through this again just to clear her name and present her case, it's heartbreaking. What kind of horrible monster retraumatizes someone like this just for kicks.

[@dcreed62]

A narcissistic psychopath likes to cause more pain for their victims. Telling a narcissist about your trauma gives them ammo for when they want to "destroy" you.

[@ghost-husband]

Shannon is truly evil to do that to someone.

[@TalesoftheSolstice]

Crapshow Fart does this out of pure jealousy. It's what Narcissists do: they choose victims they are insanely jealous of and then they go to unprecedented levels to tear them down and keep them down just because they think they don't know how to make their lives better. It's revolting to think of how long Narcissistic abuse was ignored and swept under the rug, but that's reality: Narcissistic abuse wasn't even considered abuse or even a thing until about 10 years ago or so.

[@joanna18]

Shannon

[@maxskellington910]

@@dcreed62 Please for the love of god stop using the term "narcissist" interchangibly for "selfish abuser", it's not fitting for the context you're using it in at all, and it does NOTHING but demonize the mentally ill. NPD is a real thing and having NPD doesn't inherently make people abusive. Stfu.

[@valkyrie6365]

I was honestly one of the people like “don’t make this vid, Shannon’s obvs lost and looks dumb, don’t waste your time” but now upon watching this, it was soooo needed. Nobody doubts you anyway but Shannon just needs to be shown more to the last dregs of her audience that thought her response was something good. She’s made every sin that she’s slandered other ytbers for and it’s honestly hilarious💀

[@tinsope4895]

"Do as I say not as I do"

[@idkausername4035]

And honestly I understand why people are saying up at the same time Emily has sat back and let Shannon victimize her for so long that Shannon needs a dose of reality Shannon needs to see Emily he’s not going to sit there and take the abuse anymore I guarantee it is making her want to rip her hair out knowing she has completely lost all power

[@taylorbarlow4967]

I’m

[@_Soap.Dish_]

Wait who’s Shannon

[@lillyvanilley7586]

Yes.

[@GreenMoonGirl]

"Emily did some cringy shit when she was an actual minor. This is very unique; no preteen has EVER done anything cringy or silly before. This is IRREFUTABLE PROOF that Emily is a liar and a manipulator." -Shannon

[@JennRighter]

Having a sexual fixation on an adult as a child is not bizarre, even without any mental health issues or medications. I understand why you explained it, because Shannon made such a point of it in her video, but there’s no reason to have to explain you having feelings for your teacher. Dude, I was obsessed with David Bowie when I was 6 and wanted to date him (The Labyrinth really did it for me, what can I say). I have numerous examples throughout my childhood and teenage years of having fixations on adults. 🤷🏼‍♀️ Because I was an effing child! She’s so twisted.

[@mmmmyeah1849]

When I was 13, I had a crush on my english teacher. It's not as uncommon as we think it is.

[@JennRighter]

@@mmmmyeah1849 it’s not uncommon at all! Shannon is messed in her head trying to do the gymnastics to make anything Emily did her entire life appear bizarre. It’s terrifying.

[@mmmmyeah1849]

@@JennRighter you are right. Shannon needs to be sent to jail....or a psych ward.

[@morganqorishchi8181]

It's really common to have a crush or be attracted to someone older than you when you're a kid because 1. hormones 2. kids are unattractive even to other kids 3. adults seem cooler to you when you're a kid. It's not gross, it's not weird, it's just a phase a lot of people go through. It happens. It's not something I would ever hold against anyone and it's weird Shannon is trying to act like it's some scandalous thing.

[@joywalker6901]

I feel like everyone experiences this, especially in that 8-12 early puberty period. I had a huge thing for Alex Kingston when I was like 9, and all of my friends had similar things for adults and older teens at the time. Shannon making out that it's abnormal is so weird.

[@jelwolf8929]

Nobody: Shannon: I’m not a stalker! To prove it, I’ll tell you everything I know about Emily 👁👄👁

[@jelwolf8929]

God also Anthony sounds like a total creep, why does he talk like JD?

[@juzahyodo]

shannon: i haven’t stalked her, i know practically nothing about this woman - anyway, see this picture? it matches perfectly with the wallpaper on her childhood home which means she lied, i did the math and clearly it shows she lied back in her old, deleted deviant art post from almost a decade ago i archived back in 2013.

[@cadavher]

@@juzahyodo lmao

[@nman551]

Everyone: So you did stalk her

[@nothintoreadhere6168]

She'll even tell us how many times she blinks a day

[@soob7707]

i hate that she says emily wasn’t actually r**ed because she still kept a relationship with him afterwards. it’s a horrible misconception to think victims immediately we were r*. not all cases are super violent, and have someone pinning you down as you cry. victims can and do take time to realize what happened to them was abuse.

[@arandomuser7184]

She wasn't there for it, it's not her truth so she really doesn't get the right to comment on it like she lived it

[@brooklynnbailey4356]

And even if it IS that bad... A lot of victims can't leave out of fear of their abuser hurting/killing them or someone they care about. Shannon is disgusting for even thinking she has any right to mention that 🤢

[@arandomuser7184]

@@brooklynnbailey4356 For real. She acts as if Emily's experiences are her own and it's disgusting

[@juburr9750]

Exactly. 🙄 rolled my eyes so hard when she acts like she knows what happened and defends her gross husband..

[@mollycollins498]

Makes me wonder if he's done the same thing to CSA and she's trying to justify it to herself in some fucked up way that it's not r*pe... like people who say husbands/wives can't be abusers in that way

[@blacksheep3248]

“I don’t feel comfortable discussing that part of my life and I don’t think that I should have to” YES FUCKING MAAM!!!!! so proud of you Emily, that takes a lot of patience and years of learning to set a boundary like that.

[@draacu]

1:00:05 !

[@anonymouspotato432]

id like but its at 888

[@Nabooze]

@@anonymouspotato432 same

[@anonymouspotato432]

@@Nabooze awww cmon someone already liked it

[@Nabooze]

@@anonymouspotato432 😭

[@CatsNGalaxies]

"All I saw was a girl who thought she had to use her sexuality to communicate because that's all she thought she was worth" was so raw and extremely relatable for me. I was in a very abusive relationship and he beat my ass all the damn time. I was 17. I took him to court, bruised, and they dismissed it saying "it's just childish banter, he shouldn't have this on his permanent record" this was about 2017. It feels kind of nice to find someone that at some point had a similar mindset. It's obviously not okay, and I'm so fucking sorry this happened, it just makes me feel better my previous choices and low self worth can be overcome. Thank you.

[@xryxix]

Wishing good always, hear you a lot

[@marybean2231]

That's so shit, it's still assault. I hope you were at least able to get a restraining order and that everything is on record. He's going to do it to someone else, and when he does, what happened to you will get her justice.

[@vienna-mf8xb]

How are you now?

[@IxiaRayne]

Oh fuck this is just awful. I’m so sorry this happened to you. I hope you got help to cope with this mess and that you’re better now ♥️ Lots of love

[@luna_belle5029]

You are not alone working through this stuff. There's thousands of us out here working through the cocoon in order to emerge anew. 🖤

[@Dainahhatesu]

real lawyers do NOT use vulgar language during a legal proposal, AND claiming you may not mention the client or their media/creations, or else legal action will be taken is incredibly unprofessional, especially since neither party signed a non disclosure agreement (NDA)

[@hermescarraro3393]

Yet many will use aggressive and vulgar words in court to put their enemies down.

[@VampiraVonGhoulscout]

God dammit, this is so frustrating. I hate how many times Emily has had to censor words referring to important issues like mental health, abuse and addiction. STOP 👏 SILENCING 👏 VICTIMS 👏 KZbin 👏

[@TM-np5lq]

Vampira Mayhem- You' re right: this is a HUGE problem I'd like to know what we can do about it.

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

#KZbinIsADumbass

[@HotMess_]

Yeah but it can sometimes trigger something in someone's mind At least YT could have asked for a disclaimer in the comments for vid but having to censor kinda going far

[@one_smol_duck]

It blows my mind that she can't even say "depression" or "bipolar." That's bizarre.

[@VampiraVonGhoulscout]

@@one_smol_duck KZbin is doing all of this shit to be family friendly and protect kids. What about kids who might be depressed and may not otherwise have access to information about it?

[@KenDraw]

This is absolutely wild to me, you and I were friends on DeviantArt when you were 13 and I, for years, wondered if you were okay since you were very troubled- I'm happy to see that despite all the struggles and issues you faced you turned into a kickass person! I'm so sorry that you ever had to give her a response. I hope things are going better for you and that she leaves you alone :(

[@nxcrorat]

This comment is so sweet--

[@emilyartful]

OH MY GOSH! Hi! It's so nice so hear from you again! I hope you're doing well!

[@_gremlinboy]

@@emilyartful one of the only nice things about all this for you must be all the random little reconnections that have been made! And it is a bit funny that Shannon didn't achieve anything she was aiming for, but one of the only things she Did do was expand the reach of your content so that people who knew you earlier in life could a) marvel at her absolute bs and b) see how much better you're doing these days and how eloquently you've defended yourself. Seems like just rewards all around, to me :D

[@caorlimoes]

Shannon's "lawyer" email/letter has biiiiig Onision's "manager" energy lmao so pathetic. I'm so sorry you had to go through all of this Emily!! I'm looking forward and hoping for a gentler year! You deserve nothing but peace and blessings, I have huge respect for you!!

[@mippy5842]

this is exactly what i thought 😭 i just kept thinking, "hmmm i wonder if shitshow and onion hired the same person 🤔"

[@t.o.4251]

I originally found Shannon through her anti-Onision videos. Would be funny if she went down that same route too.

[@gothamsmostwantedclownbitc7107]

@@mippy5842 Shit show😂🤩. I'm stealing that one

[@mippy5842]

@@gothamsmostwantedclownbitc7107 omg i use shitshow on a daily basis so when i was writing that comment i was like ".... WAIT... NOW'S THE TIME. MY TIME HAS COME" 😭

[@a.minor.case.of.mass.hysteria]

my favorite part is when the shady letter says Emily is 'responsible for Shannon losing her primary source of income' which I assume means her KZbin revenue, even though CrapShit Fart LOVED to brag on her channel about how she lived well off her day job and didn't need the KZbin money at all

[@isabelleshoe147]

Shannon: it’s impossible for someone to experience so much abuse Me, a master’s-level criminal justice student: once you experience on type of abuse, you’re more likely to experience other types of abuse. It is not uncommon to experience multiple forms of victimizations, especially if you’re part of a vulnerable population (ie being a very young woman, who is experiencing substance abuse, and is interacting w older partners)

[@yuenmienyu]

god, she's so absent-minded and lacks so much research. anybody with brain cells knows severe and constant abuse exists. wtf

[@rinneston]

THANK YOU!

[@ragnarkjell8586]

She obviously never has worked in child or youth care. That amount of abuse can absolutely happen. Abuse does not have to happen all at once. It accumulates.

[@sketchingingreen]

As a person who has experienced many forms of abuse as a child at the hands of a horrible horrible person, Shannon is wrong. Being abused is so much more common than people would like to think.

[@spectre9340]

That's also such victim-blaming BS on her part. "If I was hurting you, why didn't you report me?" "Why didn't you fight back?" "You were abused before, why'd you let it happen again?" is how I saw her statement.

[@melodymcdaniel9268]

If anyone is curious: CreepShow Art's video "The Lies of Emily Artful (With Evidence)" currently lies at 2.6K likes and 74K dislikes, giving it a 3.5% like-to-dislike ratio.

[@glossiangelz]

O k a y

[@dinahb1170]

How are you able to see the dislikes?

[@marys.9367]

@@dinahb1170 you can get a chrome extension that shows dislikes

[@petrichor2973]

The fact that 2.2k people liked the video is scary

[@ASmith1917]

I try to comfort myself by telling myself that those are people who "like" watching Shannon make an ass of herself.

[@Katzunowo]

I’m proud of you for being so strong. You’re an amazing person, Emily. Love you lots

[@thelazykitten8457]

Found your comment :D It's nice to see my favourite creators being supportive towards each other!

[@xchara6996]

Woah my friend’s a fan of urs

[@BreezyBeanz]

❤️

[@capybara3668]

KATZUN! HEY!

[@ItsMuffinTimePls]

I found you on Etsy first somehow lol hi! I *will* buy your plushie one day

[@britann9539]

I can tell within the first 20 seconds Emily took the criticism from her other video well and has implemented it. Also just because Emily is telling her story but it is not ALL backed by receipts doesn't make the video "bad". She's allowed to tell her story, back up some or most with receipts and reason but also just speak her story even if she can't have undeniable evidence for all of it.

[@pyromaniacalmagpie3198]

It's like Shannon's ~lawyer~ says, control your own narrative. Emily's narrative is much more credible even with zero reciepts. Shannon posted reciepts for her.

[@mercedes_420]

ikr 😅 as a newer mom & recovering addict myself, i am SO happy to see how far Emily has come- it is extremely inspirational & (obviously) commendable AF 😌 👏🏽👏🏽 **ALSO i *need* to say this about Emily’s “bathtub anime incident” 🤦🏽‍♀️ Can we all PLZ just appreciate Emily for being the ORIGINAL “Hot-tub Streamer” she is 😎 *instead* of wtfever CSA tried to paint her as🙄 (even though that part of shannon’s video was prolly the funniest😆) Anyways, great video Emily & congratulations on ur new life!!! 🥰

[@QueenOfKarma]

This!! How can someone have evidence for all they have experienced and to be fair Emily wouldn't have known to SS all things from the beginning and etc. I have also been stalked online and it takes a while to realize and start collecting evidence. I do not expect her to have it because she didn't make it up. Make sense? Also this woman has been through a lot. I actually relate bc she and I were very similar although I never went into the same industry as she we have both been homeless and both been addicts and abused and so I relate. She doesn't have to prove her life story to a single person. Esp Shannon and her supporters. Emily you are a strong woman. I can tell you have changed. You inspire me with your art and your story. I'm glad this happened in a way bc without the Shannon drama I wouldn't have found you and I'm glad I have. You will help people in future with your past and through your art. I am rooting for you and pls never let anyone make you feel less than on here. You're fabulous and we all believe you and support you. ❤❤❤

[@antigraphophobic]

Honestly, the fact that Emily didn’t have receipts for every little thing made me believe her more. Because it’s pretty normal for people reacting to situations like that to just want them to go away; keeping receipts for every tiny thing is the abnormal thing, ya know?

[@mintvelvet3351]

It’s genuinely scary how even with proof predators will be seen as innocent or their actions will be excused.

[@catboywizard]

Man, discrediting someone's accusations of assault because they had a "good" relationship with the abuser just makes my blood boil. In a situation not unlike yours, I was assaulted by someone I considered a friend when we were just hanging out. Especially with assault that's s*xual in nature the culprit is more often than not someone like a family member or a partner. It's baffling how so many people just ignore that. You're incredible for speaking on this so honestly, Emily, thank you.

[@Lucifersfursona]

Very gabbie hannah

[@warpartegia3435]

Most people are SAed by someone they know so idk why ppl believe that can't happen.

[@softestshade7813]

@@warpartegia3435 This!!! Abusers are not just random people that pick up victims from the street. They are people who spend months and years gaining victims trust. SA is more likely to occur between abusers who have the belief that their victims would not speak up BECAUSE of the relationship they built up. Anthony knew she trusted him more than herself some days. It’s disgusting anyone would discredit Emily on the grounds of him being nice to someone he doesn’t feel like abusing. It’s so vomit inducing to think about

[@ellingtonfeint13]

In her first video Emily said, that she was constantly appeasing him. Once again Shannon wasn't arguing a pint of disagreement.

[@yuenmienyu]

just goes to show how shannon truly enjoys victimblaming assault victims, like she claims she's doesn't

[@ilean7499]

Imagine taking on your boyfriend’s weird stalkerish obsession with his ex instead of leaving him for being this hung up on someone who he’s no longer dating. The secondhand embarrassment is real.

[@Dameendmon]

That’s the plot B tragedy here. Shannon has no self respect and completely was consumed by that freak. Sad

[@laurenc4138]

Truly she’s embarrassing herself at this point, it’s scary how out of touch with reality she is. Girl please get a restraining order against them if you haven’t already. I’m glad it sounds like you’re taking legal action because these people are vile sickos who will absolutely not stop. She just made herself look so much more insane with her “proof” that only proved she’s been stalking you for decade(s).

[@toomessy]

I wish restraining orders actually worked, because people like Shannon truly need to be far far away from people.

[@bruja5123]

Please actually look up on how restraining orders work before you just say “go get one”. Also Emily has went through the motions to get a restraining order. It’s just some bullshit excuse the law gave her that due to Shannon not having a real address and no P.O. Box, it cannot be delivered, and are basically giving Emily the run around. It’s also tough as is to get a restraining order on a homeless person (as Shannon often says on her living situation)

[@amethystrose2671]

@@bruja5123 also, let's be real; do you think a slip of paper is gonna keep Shannon at bay?

[@bruja5123]

@@amethystrose2671 no. I’m pointing out how the above person says “just get a restraining order” as if it’s so easy to do so. I honestly don’t think a restraining order will work. I’m just pointing out Emily has tried before.

[@bruja5123]

@lauren c Oh I just reread your comment. You were talking about Shannon being out of touch with reality. Whoops. I apologize, I misread your comment before.

[@Spo0ksi]

Shanon needs to let this go. She’s lost this one, and she’s lucky you haven’t been pushing to get her arrested for the crimes she committed. My god Shanon is just evil. Emily, nobody bought Creepshow Art’s video, we stand with you!

[@ainsleyharriot6060]

didn't expect to see Spo0ksi here hayy

[@Spo0ksi]

@@ainsleyharriot6060 😊

[@nman551]

Shannon should leave the internet she is a danger to the vulnerable and innocent.

[@yesthatmousyiris4887]

@@nman551 She needs to be banned from youtube

[@nman551]

@@yesthatmousyiris4887 she also needs to be arrested

[@ThatCreepyReading]

This puts Shannons original video in context. I'll admit that I never watched her full video mainly because the information was not clearly presented. In most "Let me defend myself videos" The evidence is thoroughly explained and put on display. Shannon would just say "THIS PROVES THIS" And not give me enough time to read the messages. You go through the messages and give your interpretation, which I agree with. There is no way Shannon could of made that video with out having stalked or payed attention to your private accounts for a long time. This simple realization makes every subsequent argument fall apart because her premise is flawed and based on fraud.

[@kiarara7014]

fr

[@nomdeplume2213]

Yeah i didn't bother watching it in full either. I didnt want to give her the views so i waited for a cliff notes version and she basically spent 2 hours just showing literal proof that shed stalked Emily for decades. Idk wtf she thought that video would accomplish, all it did was prove Emily's hunch and evidence that shannon and her husband were stalking her, was indeed true and correct. I would honestly love to ask Shannon what exactly she thought that video would do for her and her reputation..... she had to know it made her look absolutely horrible, right??? Or is the delusion so deep she can't see reality for what it is?? Its psychologically fascinates me. The psych major drop out in me just needs to know what psychologically has caused Shannon to do all this...

[@EmberOfWolves]

Couldn't finish it either. Doesn't even take the first 15 minutes to realize the whole video is just gonna be bullshit "evidence". Plus I didn't want to give her the view count.

[@RKNancy]

It's like washing her dirty laundry with more dirt before airing it for everyone to see.

[@Kthxbye988]

Very well said! That's why I couldn't watch it either, it was all ad hom attacks, half truths and baseless connections. It was so weird!

[@faxenmacher4633]

You demolished both a narcissistic stalker and a creepy weirdo simply by being the bigger person and telling the truth. It's restored a little faith in humanity. Thank-you.

[@U.H8]

❤️‍🩹👍🏻❤️‍🩹 Were well written ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥 💪🏻💪🏻

[@AikosVault]

faxenmacher hahahahaha der name

[@maggiemae3825]

Honestly, screw all of the "evidence" and anything else. What makes you so credible is that you've never tried to shy away from the mistakes and ugliness of your past. You're not faultless in your life, and you knows that, and are taking/have taken appropriate steps to address those shortcomings. (P.S. As we all should, none of us make it through this life without some fuck ups... unless maybe we're just incredibly boring.) Shannon can try and paint you as a liar all she wants, but it just doesn't make sense because you have always been open about the things that many would try to hide or make light of. I mean, don't get me wrong. I appreciate all of the time and effort put into finding the receipts and all of that. That's not for nothing. I'm just saying that you can sense the difference in maturity level and sniff out the bullshit by virtue of the way you two talk about the situation.

[@SherryLea]

It's so true, the tone of both people are so different. Literally Emily very honest taking accountability even when she doesn't need to,trying to be respectful of others feelings and just a vibe of a person who has grown and matured. Shannon's voice quivering with resentment, anger,rage, going after every one and hating the world. I honestly couldn't watch Shannon's video very long. Got me angry right out of the gate and just think my head would have exploded. Starting with outright lies right off was a bad plan, then the manipulative attempts at shuffling through things super fast to push her narrative, lack of self awareness, the entitled nasty attitude just so grating. I know I'm part of the choir, but what made my stomach clench was the whole I'm not a stalker and then posting information about Emily that no one ever has any business telling others about someone else ever. In any circumstance. Our society is just to full of that crap. Instead of saying here's our character references or anything to make things right, It's this ignoring truth and Shannon's feelings was all that mattered. I have been thinking ,the whole cancel culture sucks and how she could have a way to redeem herself, but I don't see how that could ever happen. On a different note the bits I've seen and the different break downs (Inksmith did awesome 👌) there is a tone of ownership to whole thing . That's probably obvious to most of us,but it's like the trying to keep Emily down gives off a territorial feeling. I mean it's feeling more like a thing that was escalating and could really be dangerous.

[@Girlhead]

So, SO true. Emily has taken accountability and has made no excuses. She is a very strong person. The contrast between her and Shannon's maturity levels is honestly startling.

[@shaniatreyu9303]

Shannon reminds me of those cringy dumb pick-me-girls back in 2009 that browsed 4chan at 2am because they thought it'll make them cool to the other anon troll boys. That attitude just PERMEATES her entire rebuttal vid so it makes me feel gross just listening to her and remembering just how her type was commonplace back then. Unlike Emily, who matured and grew up not just for herself but for her children, her family, and her art. And you can tell by her tone and attitude that she has nothing to hide about herself because she's not only at peace with it, but she's still working at bettering herself for it. That resonates with people more than Shannon's shitty and intentionally manipulative hit piece.

[@someidiot420]

honestly if she had not responded at all that wouldve been perfectly fine too. emily does not owe anybody an explanation for her past, and its real fucking scummy that creepshow has derailed the issue so that emily has to waste time addressing shit that doesnt even matter in the context of what's going on. well, outside of proving that creepshow is an actual creep lmao

[@lemnlyme]

it’s genuinely admirable. the clear difference between the two of them and how they approach this drama is shocking. emily is so through and detailed and owns up to her past, meanwhile shannon is so clearly beating around the bush, hardly covering anything, and never once owning up to her mistakes

[@giantpinkcat]

Shannon may have taught some people one thing: Just because someone puts links in the description doesn't mean it's genuine proof.

[@salima1777]

Not the the narrative she was trying to put forth at least

[@Elayesee13]

Just proof that she’s a stalker and it’s worse than ever

[@indrarobinson7473]

And just bc you receive a letter from a lawyer does not mean the lawyer is credible

[@kopykat6843]

@@indrarobinson7473 even credible lawyers send warning letters and cease and desist letters but they are still basically meaningless. Rekita law got a similar letter and he laughed and them, explained what the letter meant to law and courts and told them to either do something real or fuck off. He's a lawyer BTW. Both informative and funny. Edit, to clarify, his letter is totally unrelated to this but someone trying to scare him into removing videos so similar but unrelated. I just realized how I said it could be misunderstood so had to clarify.

[@Sirlordnoob]

She will not manipulate us. We stand with you Emily. She's truly sick

[@iceyflowergamer4474]

As if Shannon ever could

[@Sirlordnoob]

@@iceyflowergamer4474 I know right. Watching her video have me second hand embarrassment she really thought she did something lmao

[@Seawitch555]

@@Sirlordnoob she said she was never coming back as if we’d be disappointed lmao good riddance girl

[@yuenmienyu]

I’m so grateful the vast majority of people didn’t fall for her lies again

[@safala]

@@Seawitch555 I havent watched her video yet but I have watched reaction/ commentary videos about her video amd when I first heard that part, I audibly went 'Thank goodness for that.

[@tylociraptor8131]

I was a victim of stalking as a kid. I made a 'mean' comment on some grown ass woman's Deviantart page cuz she was ripping off art of one of my friends. Something like "nice stolen art, NOT" (I was like...14, 15 lol). She made my life hell for the next several years, and EVERYTHING discussed with Shannon, what she's done... It reminds me of my stalker. She would track every little angsty post in my livejournal, and even tried to fake a bunch. Got ahold of my home address and mailed them to my parents. I know what it's like. I know how it feels worrying that every little thing you say might be used against you sometime. That your mental illness, and the childish way you might let it come out on social media, because you're too young and unexperienced to know any better is a weapon against you as a person. It's not a good way to feel. I can't even imagine how much harder it would be feeling that your children are at risk from this woman. I'm so glad you spoke out, and I'm so heartbroken that you had to. I'm so disgusted that she would literally try to discount your struggles with addiction and mental health, or try to frame them as personality defects or something. Shannon, if you read this, YOU are the one who destroyed your own career, YOU are the reason you can't come back to youtube. YOUR true colours are what brought you to this. Take responsibility for yourself, you're a grown woman. Grow the hell up and for gods sakes, get therapy.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

As someone who's met sociopaths on deviantart granted , the worst was shitty hate-art and stupid emails, and constantly bringing me up in journals, comments in a negative way to people etc. Pales in comparison to what you went through... I'm deeply sorry you had a sociopath latch onto you and had made your life hell. A few years back I joined dA again under a different name. The site does in fact attract deviants...Not the good kind lol

[@garbage_goat8386]

Holy shit that's terrifying, I wouldn't even KNOW what to do in that situation.

[@YumegakaMurakumo]

@@garbage_goat8386 Stalking would be a great reason to get the police involved. I wish OP would respond. I'd really like to know how they got this crazy bitch to stop.

[@Ultamami]

*inexperienced, not "unexperienced"🤦

[@zainasaab7463]

I’ve had something similar done to me, but it only lasted a month. It’s crazy how sociopathic people can be when they’re given the privilege to be anonymous online.

[@McChicken03]

I think we need to understand that even if Shannon “won” the legal battle, which I think is close to impossible now, she would still be technically guilty. The evidence provided is so damning, it’s insane, and even if she made it out “on top” she wouldn’t gain anything. She wouldn’t get her KZbin channel back, she wouldn’t get her followers back, she would be the same dumbass before the court battle. She has nothing to gain, and everything to loose. Lawyers don’t defend you because you ARE right, they defend you because they want you to THINK you are right. The law doesn’t care about morality, it cares about money, and Shannon can pour her life savings into this legal battle just to show us that she is still a liar who stabs her friends in the back, and complains when she gets caught.

[@TindraSan]

she can either be a liar or a broke liar at this point lmao

[@jjcymbolic]

Honestly, biggest evidence at this point was that she didn't immediately take Emily to court. I don't know about you, but if someone claimed I was a stalker among many other things and it was all false, I wouldn't have sat by for so long. The speed at which I'd make a video simply stating, "So-n-so is lying. Their information is incorrect. I will prepare a video to defend myself and gather my evidence. Until then, please be patient."

[@bryn1063]

I would love to see her face when she loses. Knowing that's not going to happen is a bit sad, but cmon what judge is gonna be in her favor?

[@midgematic8659]

Well if what Emily said is true (and I personally believe she is) the “lawyering” company doesn’t actually take ppl to court, they just harass people into not talking about their client anymore. Emily has years of evidence on her side since she’s gotten legal advice to start tracking everything, so even if somehow we’re in a universe where Shannon does take Emily to court, Emily would have the best chance of winning. Once the evidence is shown that Shannon is a serial liar and manipulator, the court wouldn’t be keen to believe even proof that is correct against Emily. We all know that justice isn’t blind; that’s at least the stance I would take if I was part of the jury.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Yeah people can be not found guilty of a crime but still have stolen a purse, stalked somone or even murdered them. What the legal system decides & the truth are not always the same thing, sometimes not even cousins.

[@talosheeg]

I'm so so sorry Emily. You deserve so much better than this

[@emkay888]

Agreed…Emily’s honesty, self awareness, and strength are fucking impressive as hell. I can’t imagine having to relive trauma like this & I sincerely hope she’s able to get some peace. The way these 2 continue to treat her is beyond disgusting & disturbing.

[@talosheeg]

@@emkay888 absolutely. Its insane

[@Tiggzie]

I absolutely agree.

[@mukurolkusaba]

I entirely agree

[@justagaymoistbaloney6633]

Agreed

[@k0dzuk3nn]

see the key reason why literally nobody should be inclined to believe Shannon over Emily is that Emily doesn't shy away from owning up to the wrong/"cringey" things she did in the past - when she says she's sorry, you can feel she actually means it, and is not ashamed to admit her past; while Shannon doesn't even think she's in the wrong and NEVER owns up to anything, just dumps the blame on everyone but herself.

[@tiaaaron3278]

And honestly, blaming a teenager, a CHILD for saying mean or problematic shit is just off-limits. Treating these behaviours as some irredeemable crime is a shitty mindset to spread and the reason many fear taking responsibility.

[@1911-d9k]

I'm a survivor of sex trafficking and drug abuse, and the mere fact that something like this could take place, in which the people in the story are marginalized and talked about as though their entire history is false... it's too familiar, and too painful. I don't wish harm on other people, but this is a whole new level. This is beyond disgusting.

[@garbage_goat8386]

I'm sorry for bothering you or reminding you about this I believe is a crime, but please explain what sex trafficking is.

[@1911-d9k]

@@garbage_goat8386 Using a forceful method, (violent or nonviolent) to make other people perfom sexual actions for profit of another individual. I personally was trafficked into prostitution when I was four.

[@baraness24]

@@1911-d9k Oh my god, I am so, so sorry. I know as a CSA survivor myself that 'sorry' usually rarely makes it better but just...god. I hope you're doing as well as possible nowadays hun :(

[@1911-d9k]

@@baraness24 Sorry, I had notifications off for this thread. I'm getting better, slowly. The healing process is slow. When you're hurtled into that kind of depravity so young, the hardest part of getting better is realizing that all the things they did to you are not stages of normal childhood development. It's like knowing that everything that should be real isn't, and nothing makes sense anymore. I was so sheltered I didn't understand what the way of life of a normal person would even look like. For a while growing up, I thought weddings were a symbolic representation of something else, and that nobody really got married in the real world. Strange things like that, but it takes years to learn how reality works. How a bank account works, how to make a bed, how to have a hobby, ect. I also somehow thought hobbies were fake. For some reason it didn't make sense to my little brain to do anything that didn't have some kind of gain or advantage. Weird stuff, really.

[@kelleyreeves965]

25:50 something important to mention as well, is that even if you weren't high or drunk during the r*pe, going through a traumatic experience like that victims often recall the memory very spottily. That's why many social workers, therapists, etc advocate for a longer time window (maybe a few days, rather than right when you go to police) to give the full account of the incident. Bits and pieces may come back over time and key things may not be recalled at the time of reporting.

[@kitkat6445]

Yes exactly ! Here in such cases the victim may have to come to the police station twice, to make sure that as many details as possible were remembered and that happens during the course of a month

[@therealtrissmerigold]

Sometimes our brains block traumatic memories out permanently too. I was abused from 4-9 and I remember the first time it happened as well as enough bits and pieces of other times to know it was a continuous ongoing thing until I got "too old" for him. But most of my memories of that period of my life are just gone. Even with years of counseling I don't remember all the abuse. To be frank, I don't WANT to remember any more of it. I know a lot of survivors deal with similar issues.

[@cococoffee2305]

@@therealtrissmerigold Hey, I hope you’re doing well! I’m really sorry you have to go through that!

[@therealtrissmerigold]

@@cococoffee2305 Thank you I really appreciate that.🤗 I'm genuinely okay, counseling saved my life and I've come to a place of acceptance with the past. I can't change it, it'll always be a part of me, BUT it doesn't define me. I'm very lucky now to have an amazing husband of 17 years and 5 incredible kids with him. Everything that happened to me only made me stronger. I don't know if any other survivors will see this, but if by some chance they do, just please know that life will get better and you can make it through this. Don't give up. I won't lie and say it's easy to work through but if you seek help, you can heal and flourish in time.❤

[@cococoffee2305]

@@therealtrissmerigold I’m glad you’re doing alright now! Your growth and strength is beautiful, and I’m so happy you have amazing people in your life now.

[@TheCoyoteOutlaw]

Shanon ruined her own reputation. She can't take responsibility and acknowledge her wrongdoings. If she had just stopped with the lolcow incident instead of doubling down, she might still be around. But Shanon seems to lack self awareness; everything is someone else's fault even when the evidence is in front of her. Granted, I'm glad because this type of behavior is terrifying and no one should be subjected to this level of harassment. This is obsessive. Yes, her video was nothing but proof of everything she did. Like...I don't know how she didn't realize how condemning her "proof" was of her stalking. And woof, Shanon is one of those types who is allowed to be forgiven for her past mistakes but if someone else makes a similar mistake, they are unforgivable. Shanon needs to take a deep, long, and hard look at herself in the mirror and ask some really uncomfortable questions. Emily, I don't mean to be dramatic, but please keep an eye out. Her type aren't keen on giving up even when their targets hit rock bottom. I'm sure you're aware, but I have a sneaking suspicion she's not done just yet. (Edits are grammatical changes)

[@hyde1893]

i fully believe she isn't done yet. shannon is a sore loser

[@63shirochan]

@@hyde1893 same. like, i really hope this will be the end, but we thought this was over months ago and.....clearly the woman can't take a L. only concern is what she's gonna do now

[@Carriesue1982]

I feel like Shannon and Anthony together are legitimately dangerous

[@rekaluiza1752]

You mind telling me what had happened, like just generally? From what I gather it’s about stalking but what’s the context?

[@nman551]

@@Carriesue1982 I mean remember that Anthony has apparently contemplated shooting up his school. Which is simply horrifying.

[@RoseRedRoseWhite]

i'm autistic. Intense is not a slur. But using someone's mental health or any diagnosis for that matter in order to harm them is full stop ableist. Yet another example of Shannon admitting what she's done in her extremely circular way.

[@a.minor.case.of.mass.hysteria]

I thought the same, as an autistic person. And the genius really sat there and called people the r slur multiple times in the lolcow leaks then had the nerve to accuse Emily of being ableist because she described someone's personality 🤦🏻🤦🏻🤦🏻 I would also describe my own damn self as 'intense' when it comes to certain things

[@sayosweeti5757]

As a fellow autistic- I never even took any offence as soon as i found out "brandon" was on the spectrum (in the way Emily spoke about him anyway) , Like, he probably didn't know he was autistic at the time-- like wtf shannon way to literally weaponize someones mental illness for your narrative!

[@retro3188]

Being autistic myself, I find Shannon’s behavior *terrible!*

[@betha2632]

@@sayosweeti5757 what I thought was odd about her bringing up his autism and weaponizing it, was she blamed Brandon for stalking Emily when Emily confronted her about it

[@sayosweeti5757]

@@betha2632 fr fr she's always so quick to "defend her friend's" and is just as quick if not quicker to throw them not just under the bus but into oncoming traffic

[@Anasteroiddestroyer]

Emily is out here showing us that you can have a bad childhood and make mistakes in your adulthood but if you work on yourself, learn and grow, you can become a fully actualised and thoughtful person. Proud of you Emily and everyone else who is on a self betterment journey.

[@karenscoville6307]

I believe life itself is a continual journey of learning and growing, always. But that's just me.

[@U.H8]

❤️‍🩹👍🏻

[@helloMerrMerr]

This may be triggering When shannon started talking about you having a history of lying because you relapsed a few times- I literally physically got furious. So many people I know have been through addictions. Relapses happen. She’s a horrible person.

[@nman551]

Shannon is truly a vile human

[@coolkarla123]

That whole video made me feel worse about being an addict

[@wetsocks7619]

@@coolkarla123 I genuinely hope the best for you:')

[@helloMerrMerr]

@@coolkarla123 I’m so sorry you had to experience that ): I hope you have a better tomorrow

[@nomoretwitterhandles]

@@coolkarla123 Don't let shitty people live in your head if they aren't going to pay the rent. You're an addict. It's okay to accept this part of you. Recovering from addiction isn't going to be perfect for you or for anyone else (should you choose to move past addiction). Say you're in the middle of nowhere with no map, but you want to find your way to the city. You're going to drive over shitty, bumpy roads. You may even find a patch of highway, thinking you're closer to a city. Maybe you'll pass through a small town, only to wind up on a dirt road again. It's going to be a journey, but you'll make it to the city as long as you keep your mind to it. Only you can do this if you want to. It's not up to ShitShowFart or anyone else to tell you how you should feel or what you should do about addiction. Have faith in yourself and I will have faith in you too. I really wish the best for you.

[@thomasinajefferson9971]

Seriously can’t understand how ANYONE genuinely listened to Shannon. Her voice, inflection, buzzwords, and logic makes my body itch. She’s beyond insufferable and grating. So sorry you’ve had to have her as a constant in your life for so long. I’d have literally lost it LOOOONG ago. You’re strong af, Mama.

[@iceyflowergamer4474]

Exactly, don’t you just hate it when public unknowingly favors the shitheads?

[@Blake1720]

Because she’s so quirky! You plebs wouldn’t understand! #notlikeothergirls

[@rambunctiousraptor]

I know it’s lame to be like “I never liked them” or “I always knew they sucked” when a popular person turns out to be problematic but I think the first vid I ever tried to watch of hers was the “My beef with D’Angelo Wallace” vid and it took me back to those mean girls in school that pretended to be nice just to bully and shit talk me. I didn’t make that explicit connection till after all this came out but I just remember it the way she talked and playfully teased the “beef” being so bizarre and off putting, and the way she talked just sounding so immature that I was shocked to learn she’s in her 20s? It sucks to think a lot of the people who supported her were potentially young or naive at the time to not pick up on so many of those red flags. Every clip I’ve heard just screams two-faced.

[@yuenmienyu]

her spreading misinformation and joking about dark situations of ab*se and spreading disinformation NON-STOP was a red flag enough for me

[@iceyflowergamer4474]

@@rambunctiousraptor It’s fine to say “I never liked them” in this context tbf. Hey, my introduction to her was during the Hopeless Peaches drama… Which wasn’t a good look for her considering all the stuff that happened in it. The red flags were obvious and I knew it was gonna come back to bite her in the ass, and here we are now where her career is shattered and there’s absolutely no coming back from it.

[@cuckoophendula8211]

"For the posts that I did make, I'm sorry." This quote from Emily alone shows how much of a bigger person she is over Shannon, who'd instead full on scapegoat a person who didn't exist. EDIT: Also, Emily's humility of saying "that was NOT a different person [back then]. That was still me," is so refreshing to hear nowadays.

[@bessieburnet9816]

She doesn't need to do that though. Whatever she was or wasn't like, has nothing to do with Anthony's treatment of her and is indirectly making excuses for him and constructing a typical "she's no angel" narrative so commonly used to discredit SA survivor women. She already acknowledged she was a mess, but it's not like she was a horrible person.

[@cuckoophendula8211]

@@bessieburnet9816 Oh, I 100% agree with you. I guess I should have clarified that there was never an obligation for Emily to apologize nor that her past situations excuses Anthony for doing anything that he did. None of the things we mentioned together are actually mutually exclusive from each other either as we could still say that Anthony should be accountable for everything that he did. The framework of my comment was looking at her apology in a complete vacuum and seeing that as an example of how Emily is that much more of a developed human being than Shannon. As far as why I felt Emily's acknowledgment of her past to be "refreshing," I was simply thinking about how people would nowadays usually say "that wasn't me in the past" as an excuse whenever a skeleton in their closet in the past would spring up. To hear her instead say, "no no, that was actually me!" shows so much humility. As someone who worked as a substance abuse counselor before, I was so proud to hear her demonstrate that level of humility and it really shows how far she's gotten. It didn't even occur to me on how this could be interpreted as excusing Anthony in any way.

[@cakebby18]

@@cuckoophendula8211 I've found that half the time, especially on the internet, people like to make points or arguments against things that were never said in the first place. I cannot find a negative impression from your comment whatsoever :)

[@cuckoophendula8211]

@@cakebby18 Haha, I actually didn't see it as that big of a deal. I sometimes feel that we all have to remind ourselves that our first interpretation of a situation may depend on our personal frame of mind going in, so we may forget that there are lots of other ways to interpret a situation or quote let alone interpret the other person's intention. I'd like to think that I'm self aware enough to admit that I can be susceptible to that too xD.

[@partywithkrissy]

Shannan forgets she started this shit. She killed her channel because she is still hyper obsessed and jealous of Emily. If she could have contained her toxic behavior, her channel would likely have grown & be would be thriving. The fact that she doesn’t recognize this solidifies that she doesn’t have an ounce of self awareness or accountability. Shame on her and her husband.

[@atlascove1810]

she swung at people and never expected anyone to swing back.

[@U.H8]

2 grownups spending YEARS to stalk ONE x…!1 old x!!??!🤯😱😡

[@TaurusWitch29]

Pretty sure Anthony and her have a true crime channel called dreading.

[@PettyUniversity]

Here for you and proud of you Emily. Looking forward to posting my interview with you in the next couple days (should be up Thursday 2/10 or Friday 2/11). Hope this gives you some much deserved healing 💙 Edit: to those asking, the interview is now live on my channel :)

[@ayshaolague8859]

Omg Swoop ❤️!!

[@jaleighreann]

i can’t wait to hear your opinion!!

[@Tasha.Bae1]

Can’t wait💙💙

[@thejaimebush]

💙💙💙💙💙

[@britann9539]

Oh looking forward to that You always approach sensitive topics so well and thoughtfully (from what I've thus far seen!)

[@primroseprom]

Shannon: Guys I’m not a stalker, I don’t know why you keep saying I am! I just do extensive research! Also Shannon: Here’s a list of every single one of Emily’s accounts/account names that I know about. A handful of these aren’t available to the public and have been deleted for a long time. Speaking of things that are unavailable to the public, here’s some knowledge that I have about interactions Emily had with harassers or just people in general that she never told anyone about and I have no real business knowing about in the first place!

[@helixxia9320]

exactly !! what is she thinking like she just proved emily right more than anyone else could ever do

[@JosyBun]

I just know Shannon and Anthony are shaking in their boots at this. You're calmness, clarity, and ownership of your own past behaviors and examples of what led you to make those choices show you have nothing but the truth in your story. Honestly, I hope you continue to thrive in your life, and I hope Shannon and Anthony have nothing but the days they deserve. Looking forward to watching your interview with Swoop as well as your videos departing from this horrific subject.

[@Sick_Boy]

Malding, more like.

[@deliciousmarble1886]

With every video they make they're literally digging their grave even deeper. They're not only shooting themselves in the foot, but they're also shooting their shins and kneecaps.

[@cleaniebeastyvoice]

As an autistic person I would like to confirm that we are rather intense sometimes, that’s a fair observation to make honestly

[@baraness24]

Oh hella yeah. ADHD too. We're fiery bastards and bitches. Comes with low impulse control, and it can be a major curse.

[@smallspidersad78]

Yeah “intense” is practically a clinical symptom of autism 😂 we get fixated and single minded and are detail oriented. It’s what makes us awesome at being us, and bad at trying to be not-autistic

[@ilickgrandmas2854]

Who's autistic? Creepshow?

[@limespots]

Yep, as an autistic person, being in mainstream education sucks because they don't know how to handle 'intense' people, and even in education for people like me, it's only done to pretty much shut up our traits and for us to mask it better.

[@db_524]

Same, as someone who’s also autistic myself, I can be intense sometimes as well.

[@notyours.1558]

I can hardly check my boyfriends following list. I can't imagine how Shannon went through Anthony's followers, stalked you, and listed everything you did for 10 FUCKING YEARS STRAIGHT. I can't and do not ever want to imagine how the fuck she did that and im so sorry you went through all of this fucking mess. you're such a strong person and mother. keep your head up, you're doing amazing and we are all here for you and love you!

[@AnnaVictrix]

And you know Emily probably wasn't the only one, just her favorite obsession.

[@notyours.1558]

@@AnnaVictrix im not surprised. Shannon did shit talk ALL of her friends and knew things she wasn't supposed to know. she's honestly so scary ://

[@BelindaShort]

If he is actually abusive, this would make sense tbh. I have had abusive exes that consistently talked about THEIR exes to try to upset me, belittle me or make me feel jealous. This all started when Emily got the song that Shannon wanted to sing in and it sounds like Anthony was really shitty to her.

[@notyours.1558]

@@BelindaShort i feel like Anthony is still obsessed and misses Emily though. why else would he talk so much about Emily to Shannon? With every couple I know, even my boyfriend and I, we talk about what our ex did wrong and avoid what they did- conversation is done and over with after that. Im not excusing Shannons behavior at all, she's a full grown adult, but I wouldn't be surprised if Anthony is using her to find more information on his past ex. They are both disturbing and sick in the head

[@marstrull]

What I hate the most is that she’s trying to use your addiction,mental health, trauma and childhood actions against you. Like who does that?

[@rosesweetcharlotte]

It really gives us a window into how she sees Emily. She truly believes she's better than Shannon and that justifies all of this.

[@urgae9125]

She did it with Peaches, too. Claimed Peaches was suicide baiting, and making everything up. I’m so disappointed in myself for believing Shannon at first.

[@brightheart828]

A monster. A insecure, abusive, & immature monster.

[@ashildrtheswift3028]

And all that did was prove that Shannon has, in fact, been stalking Emily for years.

[@daniboy4153]

People who project their own issues onto others

[@sallystories]

If Shannon and Anthony ever DID try to come after you legally, you know we’re all backing you with a GoFundMe, right? We got your back Emily!!

[@fireflower12]

this exactly. if emily had to start a campaign for legal fees, we'd all be able to help her get the best damn lawyer in existence.

[@yuki97kira]

Wonder if they're brsve enought. What's their claim? "Your honour, i stalked this lady, and put her very young child to public's view, not to mention slandering her, but my KZbin CHANNEL!!! I no longer have an income"

[@Mro183]

Yes we are!

[@leannezarate]

I second this!!!!!

[@J0eMega]

Looking back, the best part of this was that creepshow’s response provided harder evidence of stalking than Emily could have ever provided lmao. She was so confident that her response would clear her name, that in her initial draft, she was expecting apologies from the community. Plus her blackmailing attempt at the end of that draft was just the cherry on top.

[@XxBadHabitxX]

Right !? “ I’m not a stalker but here’s her 3rd grade diary I found “ 0-o.. what

[@fadalerabrasool3563]

I cant believe the stupidity shannon has. but The real reason why she did smokey glow pointed it out is because she wanted to expose all the dirt she has on emily the whole im going down youre going down with me. but it did the complete opposite and shannon looks hella stalkerish and unhinged

[@helixxia9320]

she is crazy😭😂

[@thatgoblin5739]

I know it's kind of a moot point, but it does not matter if someone has autism or a disorder. If they are a crappy person or violent, they have to be held accountable for their own actions. As someone who is on the spectrum, if I were to make threats or attack someone I wouldn't use my autism as an out because I still chose to do those actions. While there is a difference in how the disorder affects each individual, some more severely to the point of needing someone to care for them for their entire life, it does not mean we get a pass at any degree of the intensity of our disorder. Brandon does not get a pass if he has autism because his actions and words are still his responsibility.

[@marysupernova7780]

I am always so happy to see other autists out here creating the right kinds of autism awareness. If i had a dollar for how many neurotypicals have expressed disbelief at my autism diagnosis because I'm so gentle, rational, & think of others, i would have enough money to not spend so much of my precious time recovering from how burned out i get from how rough, irrational and careless so many people of all kinds are to customer service workers like myself 😐

[@safala]

@@marysupernova7780 Do people assume that just because you are autistic (or neurodivergent), you are going to bascially not be a decent person? Cause that's so shitty of them.

[@libbyrust]

​@@safala I can't answer for her, but I can tell you from my own experience that there are sick people who go out of their way to find & harass autistic individuals such as myself. I know I'm not the only one. They will gleefully tell you things like that you are a cancer to society. Hell, I even had one nurse suddenly look at me like I'd grown another head and couldn't leave the room fast enough when I told her I was autistic. The truly screwed up part is that she was laughing it up with me and acting perfectly fine before that. And don't get me started on how school teachers and other officials who work with disabled/special ed kids often won't work with the child to try and do things in a way that benefits everyone. I had one teacher who flat out told my mother that I either needed to shape up or ship out. She refused to change her own way of teaching, despite being a special ed teacher, and despite my having a very well outlined IEP. Also, the police have a nasty tendency to shoot us whenever we have a meltdown... There are so many screwed up things about how the world responds to autistic individuals. 😕 And don't even get me started on media representation... Sia's screwed up movie and her horrific reaction to criticism come to mind.

[@coagulatedsalts4711]

@@libbyrust i'm sorry to hear that! it just blows my mind that people treat others with autism like they're less. i grew up with a friend who was non-verbal and autistic (he moved after i finished 2nd grade) and i never thought of him as less. my family knows what it's like to have a special needs kid (my aunt was intellectually challenged, and my brother has a neurodegenerative condition) and so we treated them with respect and i honestly never thought twice about those who are disabled. so seeing able-bodied and able-minded people put down others or use others' pain for their profit just sickens me. i hope you are in a safe place and that you feel very accepted wherever you are.

[@NOTDeezy.]

Being neurodivergent myself it NEVER is an excuse to be an asshole just because of my mental illness. I hate it when people draw the "But I have _____" card when called out for shitty behavior

[@TheCrowFKAPS]

It's okay to talk about this; it's your experience and it's natural for you to want to address it. Not to mention, what you said was the truth and your story to tell. I don't see how Creepshow losing her platform was your fault-- it was a long time coming and she brought it on herself. It's 100% on her that she did things to you that were so awful that you had to speak out about it. I almost can't believe the audacity to make that video after all the things she did to you. Wishing you the best!

[@Shutupdede]

period!👏🏽

[@alex-eh8qp]

crow daddy stating facts

[@safala]

Honestly, I believed Emily when this first came out but your video on Shannon gave me even more clarity on her and her behavior. Thank you so much for that video even though it probably wasn't easy for you to make.

[@quilaviper]

The fact that Shannon's video has 2k likes and **61k dislikes** (checked using the Chrome extention, y'all can download it to see dislikes again) makes me extremely happy, get fcking ratio'd, Creepshow. (I know it seems weird to be this pleased about it, but like, I'm just glad that everybody's seeing through her obvious lies and standing by you in this difficult time. Like many of the comments below, you deserve better than all this craziness)

[@randomuserwitharandomname6183]

What's the name of the extention?

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

That must rival some of those EA sports videos for the worst ratio in the history of KZbin.

[@michaelcorcoran8768]

@@randomuserwitharandomname6183 I think it only works on PC. Just go to the Chrome extension store and type down vote button and it'll be the first thing that shows up in the search.

[@quilaviper]

@@randomuserwitharandomname6183 The one I have is called "Return KZbin Dislike"

[@Blake1720]

She’s a wackadoodle ( sounds like something she’d say lol )

[@lauraforrester2910]

As a survivor of rape and opiate addiction I find it absolutely disgusting that someone would throw your past back in your face like a weapon. Shannon has weaponised your troubles and somehow finds it justified. I am so sorry you are still having to go through this x

[@yuenmienyu]

it's funny how shannon expects us to support and believe her after all of that victimblaming, gross sh1t she said against survivors

[@the.paige.turner]

You can tell that Britta Filter is 1,000 percent Shannon. At the beginning when she says “he has so much more than any HUMAN PERSON should have.” I have literally never heard someone use that term in their regular vocabulary like she does. BING BONG.

[@Demwolf100]

The BING BONG sent me LOLOLOL I agree with you

[@oohsotracy854]

Bing bong is my fave 👍🏽👍🏽🤣🤣🤪🤪

[@lurey7014]

Bing Bong!!!!

[@MrsPinkyChiChi]

Painting the pic while filling in the facts and then un painting it as you undid some of the damage done was brilliant. (Watching how your thirteen year old self was being exposed in that way made me feel soooo creepy. It felt like I was taking part in some kind of victimization of a kid by watching. I had to walk away fir a few days after having to stop watching. Should have stayed away because the apology to ANYone never came anyway.)

[@emfen]

"When we fear, we attack" a counselor once told me. With that in mind, you owning your experiences and stepping into that without budging is incredibly scary to someone manipulative. You shut the door, said no. They have lost their power and control, the two things that gives a manipulator power. It makes sense with that narrative you'd be attacked.

[@PrincessOceanna]

I am so deeply disturbed at the extent of harassment and stalking they did... To find tons of usernames of every profile you've ever had online is just.... so disgusting. Also to try and add fake user names thrown in with real ones to make the list seem "credible" is actually psychotic...

[@slaveNo-4028]

"your accusations forced shannon to leave her channel", why does this sound so eerily familiar to all the common excuses of a narcissist/sociopath and the like? "you made me hit you", "you forced me to yell at you".. Or like that youtube murderer, "she left me no other choice but to kill her because she cheated on me etc". It's so weird to blame somebody for their reaction to your destructive/abusive behavior. Just don't destroy people and they won't "force" you to do anything.

[@paulaburatto629]

Emily: "I won't throw another 2-hour-video at you". Also Emily: "Here's a 1-and-a-half-hour video". I love it. Obviously, I don't love the whole Shannon situation, or Emily having to revive everything once over again. But I love having a 1:30h reason to procrastinate on work and watch Emily painting.

[@leviacronym6770]

It honestly didn't feel very long. Unlike Shanthony, Emily speaks clearly, has concise points, and stays on topic. It helps, too, that she discusses relevant topics instead of running a sloppy smear campaign like Shanthony. This video was very good, and the way it ended, was like finishing the last page of a book that ends well.

[@ujotony]

@@leviacronym6770 I agree, the first video, i didn't watch it all. This one took me by surprise and I actually watched it all without noticing

[@deliriousmusicality8840]

She didn't really revive it, Shannon just made a shitshow of a post and it's difficult for anyone to not respond to such shittery XD but I get ya I love drawing with Emily in the bg

[@coffeewolfproductions9113]

@@deliriousmusicality8840 I think they meant relive instead of revive since Emily did have to talk a lot about her past in this video. I do agree with you though that Shannon was the one that revived all of this.

[@thelonleyUchiha1]

It’s just so wild to believe that this all seemed to stem from Shannon being so insecure with herself that instead of kicking her husband to the curb for not letting go of his ex she decided she would go full ham on you as if it’s all your fault and you hurt her precious husband. She’s completely willing to throw her whole career and rep out the window to defend this man who for 1: Kept talking about his ex despite being married to her and 2. Not even bothering to make any sort of statement to defend his wife considering how much heat she’s getting I’m hope your doing better Emily and I hope with this last F you to the two of them you can start to heal. We’re all standing by you and even if she tries to poke her head out again we’re here to bash her back down.

[@paucalderon8326]

I've always thought that Shannon was jealous of Emily but I never got the words to say it. You said it perfectly. This is all Shannon being upset because her HUSBAND is still obsessed with his ex girlfriend.

[@toomessy]

Yeah, It seems like she's so in love with that man, that she's willing to do anything for him. Which is "nice" and all, but that man hasn't come forward in her defense ONCE.

[@pirdblant]

Exactly this! I was stuck with a man who constantly tried pitting me against other women like he got off on it. It's called triangulation and it didn't work. Now several years after kicking him to the curb I'm friends with his most recent ex bc he tried to do the same thing to her. 🙄

[@Sick_Boy]

Right?

[@Sick_Boy]

@@paucalderon8326 Definitely. You don't stalk someone and try to destroy a person you aren't jealous of and obsessed with.

[@peachbubble8652]

I just love that everyone knows that Shannon is in the wrong here. You are HONEST. You acknowledge your mistakes and your past. I love how strong you are, Emily. You are amazing

[@yuenmienyu]

except for some of her toxic stans, like kidology, who made an entire video defending Shannon edit: yes I know that kidology doesn't support Shannon as she claims, but it still gives me the ick

[@SuperMikusama]

I’ve never taken drugs, but I’ve met people since Emily’s first video about Shanon who are VIOLENTLY “against” drugs and treat anyone who’s on ANY drug as if they’re the scum of the earth! They act like every case is a choice, it’s scary how unsympathetic and “holier than thou” they are. Jesus.

[@guytrashgurtdog515]

As an addict in recovery, it’s awful. People treat us like we’re all criminals and terrible people, even though most of us aren’t and most of us use to cope with mental health struggles, I know I did. Treating us like criminals (which we aren’t just for using) instead of people with a disease (which is what it is and why it’s called substance abuse disorder) has been shown to be detrimental to us. It causes people to use more and to not wanna get help, the statistics are out there. Countries where they don’t send you to jail for using and instead offer the proper help, clean supplies, testing kits, a safe place to use, etc. have sooooo much less of a problem with overdoses, death from addiction, mental health issues, and addiction and drug use in general. Harm reduction saves lives, treating us like humans with a disease saves lives. The way shanon talks about Emily’s disease is disgusting.

[@staceyann1180]

@@guytrashgurtdog515 Congrats on your recovery!!!! I hope you know not everyone thinks that way. I KNOW not all addicts are terrible or criminal! There are empathetic and compassionate people out there, I promise! It's not right for someone to judge, ESPECIALLY it they haven't had to face those challenges. My hope for those struggling with addiction is for them to be safe and get good help when they're ready for it so they can be happy and healthy!

[@sophie_drachen]

@@guytrashgurtdog515 I mean it totally, congratulations for your recovery and sobriety! I think it is sad how people treat addicts, most of them use them to numb out their mental health, and I think it is brave that people who have experienced addiction are so open about it, the stigma caused by that (ignorance of the people) is maybe the reason why some addicts don't want to reach out for help. So for Shannon to be all holier than thou about someone who has struggled with addiction is nothing more than vile and awful. Not every addict is a criminal, much like every alcoholic isn't always violent.

[@kopykat6843]

I get some of the no drugs absolutists. Many are the victims of addicts. Typically family member addicts. Addicts out us through hell. They don't just destroy themselves but everyone around them. I still have severe hatred towards addicts because of trauma I got from addicts who were also loved ones. Years later, when and if they recover, they don't remember most of what they did to you or they pretend they don't remember. When they do that....it makes it so much worse. Not just from my experience either. Several of my very close friends are extremely anti drugs because of being a child to a drug addict and the hell that goes with such a scenario. One friend it was his mother. Another it was both parents. Maybe don't assume it's people with no experience around drugs that have such a intense reaction. I have never touched drugs but I still was extremely hurt by drug use via those close to me. From my experience, those with absolutely no personal experience around addicts are the bleeding hearts that don't understand just how many lives get fucked over by addicts. I'm not saying treating them like second class citizens is fine but don't act like only addicts have trauma and should be treated like a victim. Addicts are both victim and abuser. That's why one of the steps to recovery is making amends to everyone they hurt and owning there past. That means they hurt others and those others may still have serious issues with drugs from such experiences. I will still flash when some things are brought up. I still don't trust getting a ride from friends anymore. I still become filled with rage when someone makes a joke about me seeming on drugs. It's my shit and I deal with it but I know damn well my shit is because of addicts so they are not innocent. No addict manages without hurting those around them. So don't make so many assumptions about people. Because odds are you have no idea why they react the way they do and most can't face it to fix it. Just know mine wasn't just one addict. It was many, many I didn't know about until far too late. And one I never thought would ever become a addict or do drugs at all. Not fun memories to say the least...... What little trust I had before is most definitely gone thanks to those addicts. Not something you can easily brush off and accept the apology.....

[@IThink2Much]

@@guytrashgurtdog515 Congratulations on recovery! I have two people in my life who are in recovery. They both had childhoods that made substance abuse a coping mechanism. But they've both come a long way and are wonderful men who have done awesome things with their lives since. I hope the same for you. I totally agree.... we need to decriminalize drug abuse. Anyone who is using is already most likely in a low place and doesn't need to be kicked while they're already down. Giving them resources to help them get through their addiction makes so much more sense than locking them up where the same amount of money spent on them is doing them (and society) no good. Our society is so backwards.

[@cuhloochy]

You exude such grounded, elegant, strong energy. To talk about such situations in your past this openly is admirable and inspiring. Keep using your art for good, love.

[@ellaova]

Damn, I dislike both of them! Anyone with me!? 😂😂😂

[@SoftxBunny]

@@ellaova not really 🤷🏻‍♀️ Most people here care about at least one of the two women involved. How come you're here?

[@glossiangelz]

@@ellaova no ur alone.

[@FabiolaRVela]

@@ellaova if you dislike them why are u here watching her? Weird how some people spend their free time 😬.

[@koiifsh]

since most of the replies are about ellaova, id just like to say i completely agree with you!

[@gudkush420]

The irony behind the "defamation" shit shannon is trying to peddle is that she *knows* that if she takes this shit to court, she'll lose. She'll lose and have to pay double; if not, tripple the money you all have spent on court fees and damages. In fact, any competent judge would laugh her out of the courtroom.

[@glittersoop]

shannon, you do NOT wanna go to discovery, i promise you

[@pipoforce5333]

@H Just like AmberTurd who destroyed Jhonny's life Jhonny keeps winning!

[@marybean2231]

@@pipoforce5333 It's hard to believe someone who posts the evidence. Emily and Jhonny have that in common. "No one will ever believe you" - every abuser ever. They will both win.

[@TalesoftheSolstice]

@@marybean2231 That's how Narcissists work: they pull every trick they can think of to make their victims second-guess themselves and even believe they're the crazy ones. It's sad that these abusers are not yet in padded rooms completely separated from society where they can't harm others.

[@marybean2231]

@@TalesoftheSolstice Hard agree. Anyone who functions like this needs a solid warning label on them.

[@ShowWithNoName]

This woman has a scary amount of self-awareness.

[@larsswig912]

therapy can do wonders

[@NienNienNien]

I also have a scary amount of self awareness

[@nikki3pointO]

TW: SA "If you were dramatic [...] when you were twelve, then that must make you a liar as an adult" is LITERALLY the logic the wife of the man that did bad things to me used to claim I was lying about what he did. Thank you, thank you so so much for addressing that messed up logic. I feel so seen.

[@thetea4093]

I’m so sorry that happened to you. Whatever happened to the POS that hurt you, I hope you’re able to find peace

[@SobrietyandSolace]

Friends of the family said this to me as an adult. They either don't want to be seen as complicit, a poor judge of character or they just don't want to accept what the perpetrator actually did because it makes them uncomfortable. Fuck them.

[@cady__]

💜

[@DragonFlightRider]

And no one wants to acknowledge that children often "act out" or are "dramatic" while going through awful things because that is often the only way they can express themselves. How is a young mind suppose to deal with rage, hurt, and confusion while also being too scared to tell anyone? Not all parents are easy to talk to, and are outright dismissive because they don't think bad things can happen to /their family/. I know of family members that didn't know "bad things" were happening at their child's friends house, because they would be at the friends during playdates, and the other child was the same age/gender as their child.

[@idkifimokay_7817]

@@DragonFlightRider Also, children don't have developed Prefrontal and Medial Cortexes. Teens don't always handle bad situations or even good situations in the proper ways.

[@foreverNwonder]

14:21 I was on Abilify as a 15 y/o and had the absolute _worst_ side effects, which included my eyes rolling to the top of my head so I could only see what was on the ceiling… my psychiatrist & therapist were horrible, they wouldn’t take me off it and said I was faking it “for attention” - which blew me away… I have a very active imagination. If I was only out for attention, I would of thought of something other than not being able to use my eyes.

[@anotherloser2858]

They were likely being paid to push the drugs on you and utilized your age and therefore perceived "immaturity" as a weapon against you.

[@foreverNwonder]

@@anotherloser2858 I wondered that afterwards actually. Especially once I got off, I saw ads on tv for Abilify saying it wasn’t recommended for ppl under the age of 18, but I was only 15…??

[@eda_lamram]

fellow abilify user

[@machineboy686]

I was also prescribed Abilify, but when I was 16. I was only on the lowest possible dose but I felt heavily cognitively impaired the entire time I was on it. I don’t want to get into details because frankly I’m embarrassed, but I really can’t stress enough how much it would’ve ruined my life if I didn’t beg my parents to take me off of it. It’s absurd that you were put through all that, and even worse that they blamed it all on you. I’m so sorry that happened to you and I really hope you have better supports now.

[@foreverNwonder]

@@machineboy686 thank you and same to you! It was actually really scary to be on. Its crazy how much damage it did in such a short period of time, I wouldn’t want to think about being forced to be on it longer than I was… I don’t like to talk about that period of my life very often (being on psych meds), but I feel like those 5 short months really changed my mind and the way I think. I used to read stacks of books… but after I got off those meds, I’ve never been able to focus on reading again. For years, it would really affect me & I would cry endlessly, as reading fiction was my biggest escape from my home-life… Now I just accept my soul-crushing ADHD & watch lots of YT videos 👍 __hugs__ and wishing you the best!

[@GrayWolfWRX]

It’s so gross that a person would weaponize the mental illness of any person, let alone a child. To survive SA is hideous, but I don’t know what’s worse, the attack itself, or having people not believe, try to discredit you, and defend the person who did it. I don’t know you at all, but it makes me so sad that you’re having to relieve that trauma and defend yourself. The Shanthony are two sick SICK individuals.

[@kimcheex5]

Agreed, honestly personally I don't remember what really happened (I was 4 and it wasn't just a one time thing and more than touching) but growing up dealing with it alone was hell. I have vivid images that pop in my head and there's a smell that triggers me. And growing up having to see the person for most of my life (I'm 20). I can't imagine what Emily had to go through while being attacked and live in constant fear of people who disgustingly did this to her for years, and one of them being her abuser. I recently started feeling that way, I came out with my story publicly and I was fearful of my abuser coming to get me. Imagine living like that for years, you're so strong Emily and it's disgusting people take advantage of people for their personal satisfactions.

[@lemons_66]

"All I see is a little girl who used her sexuality to communicate because that's all she thought she was worth" Damn, little too close to home lol I was hypersexual after my SA. So, like, damn lol

[@shonnaa7117]

I'm sorry what?!😱

[@fairy4821]

Sadly this is true After each sexual assault that I faced, I would become more hypersexual, even as a child. It was disgusting, I didn't know why I was doing this I just felt like it was the only way for me to be allowed to exist. This is why my mother's husband tried to push me into elite sex trafficking when I turned 18, my mother and my boyfriend saved me. Thankfully now my boyfriend is very overprotective and I'm in control of myself but I don't even want to remember my childhood and teen years They were disgusting.

[@tacdragzag7464]

There are two things that stand out to me: Shannon reacted to Emily with such animosity. You'd expect a person like who she claims to be to rather react with compassion for Emily's plight as they try to defend themselves, yet Shannon got so spiteful... Secondly, and this is kinda scary to think about: Where is Anthony in all of this? For all we know, it could be that he is feeding Shannon stories and got her to join him in his obsession I said that in another comment already, but Shannon can be both a spiteful person and be manipulated etc... None of that is proven but heck... The obvious good news is that the internet at large knows what Shannon is really like now. Good on you to come out, let's hope this situation can end with this.

[@fauna5328]

Shannon really reminds me of my ex husband's girlfriend, down to their exact appearance. My ex husband were friends after we split but then this girl fucking STALKED my Instagram constantly even to this day. I haven't spoken to my ex husband since May of 2020 and I have had zero interaction with him yet she posts statuses about me. These women are disgusting.

[@cakebby18]

@@fauna5328 I'd bet she's insecure & jealous of you. I'm sorry you have to deal with that

[@why7189]

Its amazing that with how much shannon lies, shes still absolutely terrible at it

[@yuenmienyu]

she really thought we were too "lazy" like she said in the description of her response video, then when we gather so much proof AGAIN, she doesn't address it

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

Absolutely true. Shannon is a jerk.

[@SanjaSleipnir]

Yea you would think that she’d get better at it after years of platonic lying

[@cakebby18]

It takes an incredibly smart person to lie successfully in the long term. To form believable lies, execute the act of lying convincingly, remember those lies, then continue lying to keep the initial lies going, requires a LOT of brain power I'd imagine. It surprises me that people with low intelligence would choose to take the harder route, instead of just being honest.

[@larsland]

This isn’t Shannon-related. Thank you for talking about psych meds and how they can impact young teens. Some of the stuff you spoke about really resonated with me (I’m 12 years sober!). I’ve been hesitant to call some encounters rape… this video might allow me to consider that. I’m still blaming myself. While I’m really sorry you were forced in a position to have to speak on this so publicly, I’m glad you did in the way you did. You have a really compassionate touch to your delivery and I’m sure many others were as touched as I am. Listening to your voice waver was heartbreaking, you shouldn’t have had to talk about this.

[@nomoretwitterhandles]

If you didn't want it or consent to it, it's rape. It's never your fault. I wish you happiness

[@LoveLaw]

I went through a similar thing. I was out of my mind drunk and unable to consent. I don't even remember it happening - there were just obvious signs after that it did left in my room. It took me about 10 years to shift the blame to the person who did it without consent - instead of feeling shame for getting drunk in college. I took a ride home with someone because I was too drunk to drive and ended up getting taken advantage of. The thing is, no matter what the reason for your incapability to consent - if you cannot consent then it is not consensual. Especially if the other person was sober enough to realize that you were incapable of consenting. It was NOT your fault.

[@chyennewhisman7166]

Something similar happened to me I had to take anti anxiety meds and anti depression meds. I chose to drink blue berry Vodka with a person I used to be friends with. I ended up puking on their bed and they got mad at me and got me off their bed and started taking my clothes off. I said stop but they yelled something at me. I passed out and woke up in the shower and their hands were on my private parts. I know they were probably not trying to clean the puke off me because they could have used the detachable shower head or a cup and they were touching me with their bare hands in a inappropriate way. It took me years to realize what happened to me and that something worse probably happened but I can't remember. I know that they were capable of doing this to me because in the past they came on to me a couple of times and I'd turn them down. They also tried to get me to let them look at me or touch me pluss they even shown me pictures of me asleep that they took. They also kissed me without consent and knew that their creepy and gross behavior hurt me and I even begged them to stop because it made me relive traumatic stuff that happened to me before I met them.

[@annissaary8321]

Being in denial is a natural part of the process, but it is not and will never be your fault💖💖💖 i wish you best in your journey and your healing, you're incredible, strong, talented and loving, please never forget how incredible you are 💖💖💖💖💖

[@Girlhead]

What stands out to me is the way Emily and Shannon respectively ended their videos on this topic. Emily: Your kindness and support has taken me so far, and I would not be able to do this if it was not for all of you. Thank you, from the bottom of my heart. Shannon: To the people who reached out who said I don't care if you did it, I still love your content, don't leave KZbin, I love you. You're weird. Don't say that to me ever fucking again, don't reach out to me ever again..... and to everyone else, go touch some grass. I am done, I am fucking done. Says it all.

[@geministrial950]

THISSSS

[@Girlhead]

@@felixhunter589 Exactly. Really sums up this whole shit show (created by Shannon and Anthony) imo.

[@aeoligarlic4024]

When emily said "thank u, from thr bottom of my heart", i really felt that.. and i'm not even one of her subscribers but i was like "aww i really felt that in my chest! Girl! 😭"

[@OnlyMichaelJackson]

shannon has some nerve being an a**hole to her fans and calling them weird for reaching out to her in a video showing the extent to which she stalked someone for almost a decade. she's deranged

[@redtailarts101]

The ends reveal that Emily is tired of this, relieved to have gotten this off her chest, and is thankful for the immense support she got, even when she was probably really scared to have to open up about all of this. Shannon is angry and resents her fans for not believing her. Even those who say they don't care if she did it, she's mad that it even crossed their mind that she could have.

[@slushpuppie19]

"The things that I posted did not come from a different person. They came from me." Accountability. If only Shannon knew this term too.

[@yuenmienyu]

lmao shannon could never be as mature as emily 💀 just think about the "amy spoofed my IP" explanation after the lolcow allegations came out

[@littleredsubmarine]

To be honest, if she tried to sue you, start a Go Fund Me. I think people would pay to watch Shannon burn 😆

[@winterbeliever7525]

Abso effing lutely

[@redtailarts101]

I would if I had money

[@Fliptwisttt245]

Shannon set herself on fire there’s no reason for you to have to pay for it.

[@admiralofcuteness]

Seconded.

[@countryhippiechick4466]

Heck yeah! If just half of her subs donated a dollar, she'd be set. Just an example of a possibility. A girl can dream. 🥰🤣

[@maynardo4237]

So fun fact: one of the videos she deleted was called SJWs vs my relationship which was about her “misandrist friend” accusing Shannon’s boyfriend (now husband) of being abusive. At the time I had no reason to doubt Creepshow’s claims but now my guess is that Anthony (who was the boyfriend at the time) is actually abusive and the friend was just genuinely concerned for her safety. That’s generally what the story was about. There’s some reuploads out there I think.

[@gregjayonnaise8314]

It’s nuts how many of Shannon’s videos become horrifying in hindsight.

[@maynardo4237]

@@gregjayonnaise8314 that’s why she deleted a bunch of them

[@1917yee]

I remember that one and that's when I stopped following. Red. Flags.

[@olenpieni]

And i think it was their sibling that was worried

[@maynardo4237]

@@olenpieni wait really?

[@cthulia]

The fact that you're the one whose entire life and history is being picked apart when she's the one who this was initially all about is mind-blowing to me and I'm so sorry. As someone who suffers from PTSD and had a deeply tumultuous childhood (esp my teen years), I find you extremely admirable. I hope you're endlessly proud of yourself and where you're at in your life currently.

[@CommanderWiggins]

It's clear that Shannon's idea was to try and draw attention away from herself by 'exposing' Emily as a bad person. But it backfired miserably because she ended up further proving herself to be an obsessive stalker.

[@ellingtonfeint13]

I feel so sorry, because Emily is being forced to reveal more and more intimate information.

[@feversandmirrors]

What Emily said about her and her dad's relationship while she was in active addiction and her dad kicking her out and then letting her back in is 100% accurate and real. As a recovering heroin/drug addict, I can say my experience with my own parents was exactly how Emily describes.

[@potat19]

At this point, Shitshow and Crapthony self reporting doesn’t enrage me. It’s embarrassing now. Glad you are being heard Emily. You’re such a strong woman and I’m sure you’ll make great things in the future. You’re an amazing artist! ❤️ Wishing you the best.

[@kit-kat9466]

As someone who had a traumatic childhood and did some really shitty things online, this is fucking horrifying. I'm 30+ years old now and not even remotely the same person I was on misdiagnosed bipolar meds dealing with parental abuse. That Shannon is pulling out screenshots of you from THOSE years of you is 1) incredibly disturbing and telling that she's a fucking stalker and 2) absolutely disgusting that she thinks she can "cancel" you by doing this. In the fucking clip you show she literally MAKES UP THE ENTIRE PLOT about trying to expose someone based on cringey online behavior from childhood! Good god not only is she a piece of trash she is a STUPID piece of trash. I'm absolutely horrified on your behalf that you have to relive this shit and post detailed explanations online sharing ALL your personal shit because of this fucking monster. This is emotionally traumatic as FUCK and she belongs behind bars! It's the only thing that will stop her!! I'm SO sorry, Emily! This is a fucking nightmare!

[@monolyza_]

Exactly. I am still flabergasted that people like shannon exists and walks amongs us... her and the trash anthony deserve hell after all those years

[@speccysquaregolike9629]

@@monolyza_ *a m o g u s*

[@aggable]

@@speccysquaregolike9629 as much as i like amogus jokes as the next guy, i dont really think this is the time for it

[@tryingnot2bdumb]

honestly i agree

[@sakurahirawa]

@@aggable Fr, time and place.

[@mariesueme8807]

Just to point out a couple contradictions on Shannon and Anthony's story that I haven't seen anyone mention but seem wild to me: They accuse you of being ablest towards Brandon for not knowing he is autistic, yet they try to use your mental health as a way to drag you as a person. The picture the paint of you while you were dating Anthony has every possible stereotype of "crazy bitch" and then they completely disregard your diagnosis and history with drugs. Which is very hypocritical, to say that you're being ablest for not assuming that someone is autistic when they fantasize about columbine, while using all your struggles as an insult. The other point they kinda fuck up is how they tried to present your erratic behavior while dating Anthony as "you being crazy, not on drugs", and one of the things they included was the incident you've denied about falling unconscious. You've already explained that yes, you were relapsing after the relationship, and that you don't remember the fainting happening. But, if we go by their account you were an incredibly vulnerable person suffering from so many mental health issues that you could faint at points, which means that the sa would have still been an sa. Your point was that you were in and out of consciousness, so even by their account, that could still had happened. Due to you being "crazy" instead of using, but by trying so hard to paint you as an unreliable narrator they basically admit to it. Obviously you've already prove it wasn't their version in which you're sober, but their version of events means that it could have been sa even if you were sober. Sorry for any mistakes, English is not my first language.

[@aggable]

man this situations so fucked, but i find it kinda funny how they dug their grave so deep people havent even rebuttled against everything because theres so much dumb shit lmfao also dont apologise your english is really good! i didnt even notice it wasnt your first language

[@betha2632]

This is a really good point!

[@neryn-2924]

I know this is a serious video but "did Shannon not know math?" absolutely caught me off guard and sent me

[@loup9066]

I cannot imagine having to go back through my most traumatic and tumultuous period of my life at least twice publicly maybe more and have someone throw it in my face and discredit my trauma and r*pe. I hope to one day be as strong as you so I may heal. As a survivor of sa it has pained me to watch these videos but also emboldened me. Thank you for being so strong, forward and firm about your experience. I’m sorry it had to be polarized and publicized

[@lorettarosy63]

Going back to your trauma is indeed horrible. It feels like you're pulling back yourself to where the other side took you. 😢

[@lounakin]

This is highly concerning. Sounds like she's not going to stop, sounds like she could do much worse... Take care and protect yourself!

[@fortunamajor580]

I agree, anyone who spends years stalking someone isn’t gonna let this go easily. She may never post another vid again, but I don’t doubt that she’ll privately stalk her. Creepy af!

[@Projectarchan]

Honestly, Emily Artful should get a restraining order against Shannon at this point. Creep's a total nutcase.

[@raquelviver2476]

I hate how when victims of trauma react to their trauma in a "don't touch me" and drawing in kind of way we support them but when they react by over sexualizing them selves or abusing substances we don't.

[@whatisthis1958]

Exactly. Its an especially damaging mindset since hypersexuality, in my experience, is far more common. I am in a friendship group where the majority of people have been sexually abused as children. Me and one friend, out of 7 sexually abused friends, are the only ones who are sexually repressed and drawn in. The rest are hypersexual. Both reactions are valid and are extremely damaging to mental health and relationships, but I'd argue hypersexuality is far more harmful in the sense you're much more likely to be revictimised and taken advantage of. And when you *are* revictimised, society blames you for the way you act. It's happened to many of my friends, one being revictimised a known total of 5 times before law enforcement intervened (for once lmao). The way she acted placed a target on her back, and its not her fault, but people will use it as a way to justify the actions of 20, 30, even 40 year old men on a 14 year old girl. It's *vile* that people remove the blame of the fully grown, fully mentally developed *adult* in favor of blaming the child who have only ever been taught that their body is their worth. And frankly, it doesn't matter how the victim acted. If an adult abuses a child, the adult is to blame. Its one of the few things in life that are black and white, imo

[@annabasnatural]

The one thing that Shannon shows perfectly is how she doesn’t understand drug abuse AT ALL and how it work for people. I feel so sorry that you have had to go back into all of this again. Everyone is on your side. No one believes anything she is saying

[@bsummers1386]

51:32 “Anthony lightly trolled her” lmao Shannon is so deranged I swear to god

[@darkpriestess127]

So true. When I heard that it gave me literal chills. If she can say that in all seriousness she needs some hard core therapy.

[@coffeewolfproductions9113]

She's the worst kind of a gaslight gatekeep girlboss.

[@Kryptoid_]

No one should ever have to go this far to prove themselves especially when the other party is very obviously a liar. In any case, you are amazing and I hope this passes soon once and for all (though I do understand how the internet works, your trauma easily becomes entertainment for others to consume). I can't imagine how frustrated you are but I would be absolutely LIVID. Please take good care of yourself.

[@pinguufuuuu]

i know emily chose to do this, but still, emily should've NEVER been forced to talk about such traumatic situations. it's really nobody's business what "really" happened when it comes to these personal issues. just because emily is a public figure, doesn't make it right for people to be requesting "receipts". literally shame on shannon for putting her in this position. what a despicable human being.

[@trash.pandaaa]

Ur absolutely right. Like the traumatic things that happened to Emily are no one's fucking business and the only reason this is even a point of discussion is because Shannon and Anthony are total stalkers and tried to use that to their advantage. Truly disgusting shit

[@cheeto.burrito]

Unless you are a person's _actual friend,_ you shouldn't be able to point out things like "her room in her dad's house had pink walls" or know about the teacher crush they had when they were 13. That's some stalker bs.

[@VDJVivacity]

When you mentioned Abilify, Emily, I was genuinely shocked about the information you relayed because I took the same drug for a few years in high school and also suffered serious binge eating problems which made me balloon in weight after being a skinny twig for the first twelve years of my life. At 26 I'm trying to undo the weight that the Abilify caused me to gain. Thank you for pointing that out and I'm on your side and support you in this entire debacle and I'm so sorry that you had to make a third video in response to Shannon's shitshow of a response to your allegations.

[@guytrashgurtdog515]

Antipsychotics can do that. Seroquel made me gain a lot of weight and messed with my eating disorder heavily, but I needed it. Ability just made me more anxious when I was already dealing with that constantly from ptsd and panic disorder. But seroquel has helped with my numerous mental illnesses and helped me through withdrawals from heavy benzo abuse and other drugs, that and many other psych meds have helped with everything. But you’re right, some doctors aren’t clear enough about side effects, especially weight gain. But it sucks, because a lot of the time the medication is helping in so many ways but also making some things worse. I’ve had that issue with so many medications, like being on benzos to stop the constant every day panic attacks from ptsd and panic disorder, they saved my life in so many ways but also almost took it many times. You always need to outweigh the pros and cons, sometimes the side effects are worth it and you kinda just have to learn to cope with them, and sometimes it’s not worth it and you need to safely come off the medication. Best of luck to you, psych meds can be a pain in the ass, I’ve been on nearly 20.

[@Eeeeeeebbbbbeeeee]

You’re not alone. I was diagnosed with bipolar at 17 and prescribed it. I gained over 90lbs, became hyper sexual, binge ate, and made very risky decisions. I’m almost 20 and just not getting my life together and losing my weight.

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

@@guytrashgurtdog515 I'm still on Seroquel and I have been 5-10kg heavier than my "ideal" BMI. I still relapsed recently but after 10+ years of all kinds of medication changes, Seroquel and Lithium seemed to be working "best". I currently use exercise and keto, managed to lose 5kg at one point though I recently gained them back.

[@FeyPax]

I believe I was on that one for a hot second too and i developed binge eating too. I’m much better now but damn that’s a hard addiction to break. Eating a little bad for a few days can trigger it again for me.

[@cody7689]

@@guytrashgurtdog515 i was put on seroquel after a stint in a psych ward, and i hated it so much. i had to take 25mg in the morning in 75mg at night, and all it did was make me starving and sleep constantly. i was sleeping 13 hours a day and would still feel so tired all the time. abilify also made me gain like 50lbs in high school and ive been stuck with that weight ever since. i finally landed on a combo of pristiq+vyvanse 4 years ago, and thats worked for me ever since. but it took forever to find a medication plan that worked.

[@IThink2Much]

This popped up in my recommended and when I saw "I'm Done, Shannon", I just knew I had to find out more. I've literally never heard of you or Shannon before today. I'm so sorry you have had to go through all of this. But you've done a really good job making your case in a very intelligent, well thought out way. I am sending positive vibes your way hoping that this all resolves quickly and peacefully and that Shannon and Anthony will get a life of their own so they don't feel the need to live vicariously through yours. And I just wanted to say I'm very happy for you that you managed to get out from under your demons and turn your life around. That takes a lot of strength. Good luck and take care.

[@sniperfoxxx6543]

Right same, I've heard of creepshow, she used to pop up in my recommended and then I seen a drama channel video about her a while ago(assuming it was regarding her disappearance from KZbin and lolcow leak??) I had never clicked on any of her videos though, idk what it was but it always gave me a bad vibe but when i seen this I was like hmm, let me see and here I am watching the whole thing 🤣🤣 this shit is wild and sad..

[@keelyspalding261]

Thought I was the only one 😅❤️

[@twinkletoes6290]

What lovely and kind messages this thread is full of - all ppl who haven’t been aware of this whole debacle and all it’s nastiness and just how crazy it’s been! This was wonderful to stumble on in this comment section!! ❤️❤️

[@firegodessreiko]

Same for me. I was just curious about this 'Shannon' and what she could've done that warranted such a long rant..... only to find someone who's life really reflected my own experiences. What a lovely girl, this Emily, and what alot of work she's done picking up the pieces of a shattered life. Mad respect. Glad I clicked...

[@AnOriginalSpin]

It pisses me off that Emily has to explain her entire fucking difficult life to prove that shes not hurting all because an already sketchy-ass woman is harassing her. I feel so bad. I would be so embarrassed and hurt. Take care Emily... you deserve so much better than this bs. Love you darling ❤️